Introducing Ajax Right-Back Gregory Van der Weil

1 Kyo // Aug 3, 2012 at 11:25 AM

Give me Debuchy!

2 ~Debuchery on a Dreamboat~ // Aug 3, 2012 at 11:25 AM

Muppets.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2183077/Mathieu-Debuchy-angry-Lyon-preventing-Newcastle-move.html

3 geordie157 // Aug 3, 2012 at 11:25 AM

Double swoop for VDW and Anita for 12mill would do nicely. Oh make it a triple swoop and get Sujemani too.

4 Super Magpie // Aug 3, 2012 at 11:28 AM

We dont have a stronger squad, but we do have a Stronger starting 11, Cisse > Best.
Also did Marveaux and Ben arfa play that much up until christmas?
( obviously marveaux got injured).

Our line up against arsenal (H)
Krul
Simmo– Saylor–Colo- Raylor
Barton– Cabaye– Tiote– Jonas
Ba—– Best

Compared to potential line up v spurs
Krul
Debuchy/VDW– Saylor–Colo– Santon
Ben arfa— cabaye —Tiote— Jonas/marveaux
Ba—- Cisse

Sorry for the long post, but that line up is miles better than it was last year and the players from then have improved massively over that time.

5 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 11:29 AM

Debuchery…It would explain a lot of the delays if we’re going to have to go through a third club…very messy stuff

6 ~Debuchery on a Dreamboat~ // Aug 3, 2012 at 11:30 AM

Aye.

DAM YOU LYON.

7 wingspan // Aug 3, 2012 at 11:31 AM

@Supermag from last thread.

Starting line up theres no question that were stronger. Squad wise, i dont think we are at this moment in time, but theres still time left to bring players in. That horrible feeling in the pit of my stomach is starting to appear a little bit tho lol hopefully the board loosen the purse strings soon.

As someone said earlier, this is our most important transfer window in yrs. I think were on the cusp of something great. Just gotta see if ashley is gonna show the ambition to go for it this window. Because if he doesnt i can guarantee this time next yr we wont have Cisse, Cabaye or Benny playing for us and that would be gutting. Cheik im not sure about he seems to love it here,

8 geordie157 // Aug 3, 2012 at 11:33 AM

Super Magpie, yep agree with that. Plus a few of the youngsters are ready now to challenge for a place, ie Tav, Sammy and hopefully a fully fit Gosling.

3 or 4 more good additions and it could make the difference between battling for 6th and 3rd or 4th.

9 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 11:33 AM

Beattie…Seems we need to make another stop on our little escapade through France.

We shall bring down Lyon!

Gotta love the Daily Mail – best comic going imo.

10 rainrix // Aug 3, 2012 at 11:35 AM

Headlines misleading we already knew about van der weil no need to introduce him

11 ~Debuchery on a Dreamboat~ // Aug 3, 2012 at 11:36 AM

Wouldn’t be surprised if they published an article titled,

“Rooney Set to leave Man City”

12 Beattie25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 11:37 AM

Lyon will burn

13 rich_toonfan // Aug 3, 2012 at 11:38 AM

What is wrong with journalists these days.

They make up stories to such an extent that they have lost any truth in the article.

How can their editor not sack them for gettin such basic details of a story wrong.

On the BBC transfer rumours page, one of the papers claim spurs could be after rondon from Malaga an they call him a midfielder.

I’m sure anyone could be a tabloid sports journo.

14 Ben-Arfa11 // Aug 3, 2012 at 11:39 AM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2183077/Mathieu-Debuchy-angry-Lyon-preventing-Newcastle-move.html

they also said in the article that we finished 6th last season when we finished 5th whoever wrote that seriously needs to be sacked on the spot for total rubbish

i hope we sell demba ba in january i hope he bangs in the goals by now and january and we can sell him off for a decent price.

dont get me wrong i love demba ba think he is a good player and like him alot however newcastle comes first and i really do think he will be terrible player for our long term season chances.

if we didnt have cisse then we should keep ba but we have cisse now and ba will really push pardew to start him up front with cisse

and 4-4-2 is just not good noawdays last season was proven when spurs did that against norwich and got outrun in the middle of the park.

we were much smoother with a 4-3-3 last season been a 4-5-1 when defending

hoilett would of been perfect but im sure marveux can do that role to

marveux-cisse-ben-arfa

so i would like us to invest in a left winger who can play in a front 3 on the left a player like adam johnson just might do the trick.

i really dont think ba and cisse up front this season is the way to go would love to keep ba if he settled for that left wing spot but didnt seem happy atall and seems to be selfish for goals and not a great team player.

cisse is our man next season you watch but if its ba and cisse up front then it could be really bad for cisse as they dont click atall together up front bad parternship as proven with senegal in african nations cup

15 rainrix // Aug 3, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Rich…. Did you see the article about santon yesterday? Or the one about cisse last week? Two of the worst bits of journalism I’ve ever seen!

16 rich_toonfan // Aug 3, 2012 at 11:41 AM

And on the squad for neat year….

Think we are stronger than this time last year. Hard to judge though until we see tw new boys and youngsters in the prem league.

17 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Rich…As they say, it’s not what you know, but who you know.

Someone warn Niafron we are coming. If he wants to survive the chaos he must be at the meeting point on time.

There is no room for error with this. We must succeed.

18 geordie157 // Aug 3, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Right its waffling time. At centre back we definately need one more in.

If you look at the others

City – Kompany, Lescott, Toure, Savic, Richards, Boyata.
Utd – Rio, Vidic, Jones, Smalling, Evans
Chelsea – Terry, Ivanovic, Luiz, Cahill, Hutchinson
Spurs – Dawson, Gallas, Vertonghen, Kaboul, Bassong, Caulker
Arsenal – Vermaelen, Kosielney, Mertesacker, Djourou, Squillaci, Bartley
Liverpool – Skrtel, Agger, Carragher, Coates, Wilson.

us – Colo, Saylor, Wilo, Good. Streete is probably another year away. Perch is a not a cb, Tav can do a job there. But all the top teams have 4 or 5 recognised centre backs.

19 rich_toonfan // Aug 3, 2012 at 11:42 AM

What was in rainrix? I missed them

20 dave 1961 // Aug 3, 2012 at 11:43 AM

thank you Daily Mail its really informative to find out from you that we finished 6th.

21 geordie157 // Aug 3, 2012 at 11:45 AM

Ben-Arfa 11 – Any of these would do the job, although some may cost a bit or command big wages. Adam Johnson, Sujemani, Mirallas, Scott Sinclair, Sturridge, Griezmann, maybe Matty Phillips from Blackpool.

22 Nick 69 // Aug 3, 2012 at 11:45 AM

Ben-Arfa11 – quite a lack of respect for Ba there. Incase you forgot he scored 16 goals in 16 games for us playing up fron in the 1st half of the season. And his goals were one of the main reasons we finished so high in the league. But now we’ve got Cisse you jst wanna disregard him. Its no wonder palyer have no loyalty these days with fans like you who would just get rid once they’ve done there bit.

23 rich_toonfan // Aug 3, 2012 at 11:45 AM

I like caulker, would be a good signing.

Sure we can manage with what we have though. Same as last year but have good, perch has proves to be useful there and street and tav are a year on.

24 TorqToon // Aug 3, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Nick 69 – Completeky agree. Some fans have a VERY short memory.

Wasnt there a supposed ITK saying we were secretly in for Matty Phillips?!?! Would be a canny signing like. But who knows what the hell is going on?

25 rainrix // Aug 3, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Rich this is the cisse one
http://www.express.co.uk/football/view/335765

26 Ben-Arfa11 // Aug 3, 2012 at 11:49 AM

i like sinclair good choice doubt swansea would sell tho

johnson on loan from man city might be the best bet

and from the area to which helps!

pardew has done a pretty good job to be fair

but his biggest descion this season is the formation he shouldnt please 1 player and ruin newcastle chances.

i hope he has the courage to decide whats best for the team

and that was proven with a 4-3-3 last season when we tore the likes of liverpool the shreds

i dont like the balance of cisse and ba up front and ben-arfa also is more effective in a more attacking area that right midfield!

cabaye and tiote and jonas are more than capable of sweeping up in midfield

tiote-the destroyer
cabaye-the silk passer
jonas-bundles of energy!

27 rainrix // Aug 3, 2012 at 11:49 AM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2182456/Newcastles-Davide-Santon-wanted-Lazio.html

And the santon one

28 rich_toonfan // Aug 3, 2012 at 11:52 AM

Terrible article

The quotes just show that cisse if anything understands that it is better for him to stay with us in pre season.

No blame or anger there. I still think we should have left it to cisse and Senegal but can understand why pardew wants to keep him here. It is Pardews job on the line if we don’t perform well.

29 Ben-Arfa11 // Aug 3, 2012 at 11:55 AM

nick 69-i do respect ba i was happier than anyone when he scored that goal against man united he was on fire

however if i had to pick between cisse or ba it would be cisse im afraid.

and i would love to keep ba if he settled for a left wing spot or a place on the bench

however he proved towards the end of the season how unhappy he was with both those ideas.

ba and cisse up front in my view will detiorate our chances of a good season

yes we might score lots of goals in some games however i feel the points tally would be more impressive if we played the 4-3-3 most of the season than playing 4-4-2 if we played a 4-4-2 at arsenal or at liverpool we get hammerd off the pitch

we also would find it hard to break teams down at home against the lowly sides like norwich etc

4-3-3 gives you massive balance

you got the prolific cisse banging in the goals you got ben-arfa weaving his magic and you got another winger on the other side and as proven towards the end of the season ben-arfa can work hard and track back so when defending that turns into a 4-5-1

if you play 4-4-2 its just to easy to shoot the ball up long and hit and hope just like big sam does at west ham if thats what you want then ok

30 rich_toonfan // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:00 PM

Santon one isn’t too bad. Can see lazio wanting him.

They say he wa hampered by injuries which is wrong, but that’s not too bad an article.

The cisse one was terrible though.

31 IFC.Toon // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:02 PM

http://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/football/newcastle-united/mathieu-debuchy-hits-out-at-lille-chief-after-newcastle-bid-is-rejected-1-4801411

Games are being played by Lille.

32 rainrix // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:03 PM

Its the 19 indifferent appearances that part that annoys me. If you’re gonna post BS transfer rumours at least do a bit of research

33 rainrix // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:04 PM

Also I’ve just realised the santon article has been edited since yesterday

34 RobertNufc25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Anybody think its strange that Blackburn are throwing money around in the championship,but didnt do it in the premiership? lol

35 Nick 69 // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Ben-Arfa11 – you seem to think its a simple as ‘play Cisse and he’ll bang in the goals’. What happens when he has a poor run of form? What happens if teams figure out how to put him out the game? Ypour also forgetting the part that Demba played in quite a few of Cisse’s goals, either assists, or in the build up. Why does it have to be a choice of Demba or Cisse, it doesn’t, its simple, if we wanna push on, we need to keep our best players. You need 4 good strikers these days, we have 3, and you want to sell one. in return for a elft winger, that would leave us with Cisse and Shola.

36 LooneyToon41 // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:06 PM

On a number of occasions last year, Pards described his 4-4-2 system as a gamble. For example v ManU in the 3-0 victory when it worked, and then in the 5-0 defeat to Spurs… where it didn’t!
4-3-3 gave us 7 wins in row. I think it’s the way forward.

37 RobertNufc25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:06 PM

They’ve bid 6 million for Jordan Rhodes.

38 SupaToonKid // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:06 PM

Van der Wiel
Douglas
Anita
Zaha

Sorted!

39 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:08 PM

Spurs need to get rid of a couple of defenders. Bassong and Caulker will leave. Vertonghen is the best signing of the transfer window so far.

40 rich_toonfan // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:09 PM

@ben arfa

We played 4-4-2 and Chelsea and won 2-0

41 tarie4 // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Ben-Arfa11 //

U want to get rid of BA and bring in Johnson?? A player macini has described as a lazy trainer, a sulker, and puts no effort towards the team, but himself only?
Not to mention Sinclair who had a decent season at Swansea, how many goals from open play did he get? And how many assists??
BA has to stay, pards gets paid over a mill a year to coach and come up with solutions, he will find a way integrate both Cisse and Ba into the team. What happens at spurs game Cisse gets crocked?? Ffs

We have spurs, then a euro qualifier, then Chelsea in about 8 days, sure hope Cisse can play 3 games in 7 days
Now imagine febs march and we still in Europe and FA cup and in the hunt for fourth??

Ba is more of a complete striker than Cisse, Cisse is a finisher, if it were FIFA Ba would be a complete forward and Cisse will have the poacher, clinical etc tags

42 anirudh175 // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:11 PM

Hey guys…I’m a Newcastle supporter from India..love the way we play…have been supporting Newcastle from the times of Shearer when we beat Man U..i’ve only joined the blog today n this is my first post..great to see u all here and hope we have an excellent season!!! Howay the Lads!!!!

43 Supreme // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:12 PM

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11861/7959250/Roma-win-Balzaretti-race

missed out, especially for that price. absolute bargain

44 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:14 PM

Heard a rumour that Liverpool are putting in a £119m bid for Tiote. Can’t see Mike accepting that.

45 rich_toonfan // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:14 PM

I will reserve judgement on vertongen until he plays, but yes he could be a good but but not the best of the window so far.

I think we should look at picking up caulker, would be a good buy.

And top teams adapt, we can play 4-3-3 in some games, 4-2-3-1 and 4-4-2 in others.

We aren’t good enough to dominate all teams with one style like real Madrid or Barcelona do.

We need to have options to adapt to opposition.

46 SupaToonKid // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:14 PM

Kets

Bassong will leave but Caulker will only go out on loan however if i was Spurs i’d keep him as Gallas may also leave + Dawson is injury prone hence Vertonghen & Kaboul will start but Caulker could be 3rd choice.

47 Tsunki // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:18 PM

Ketsy £119m? I think Mike would be snapping arms off haha. Do you mean £19m? Ermmm….

48 SupaToonKid // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:19 PM

Supreme

Balzeretti is 30, we would never go in for somebody that old unless they were on a free or if they were exceptional and available for a cut price fee.

49 Super Magpie // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:20 PM

Kets

This means the signing of Scharner is imminent. Liverpool get Tiote, we get Scharner. Happy days!

50 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:21 PM

OK, meeting postponed.

Beattie…Working on a mix cd for the journey and recording my own version of the vengaboys Venga Bus – instead it’s “Beattie’s Bus is coming, you know that France will be burning”

51 tarie4 // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:21 PM

its funny how people say we played 433 and won 7 games
Well we played 442 and went 11 games unbeaten

It depends with the opposition, fergie plays 4411 or 442, how many titles does he have? Macini played 4222 and 4411 aswell as 442.
Its all about adapting, to different situations, at the start of the season 442 worked, and at the end 433 worked too, I am happy with either formation, as with 433, we beat Liverpool and lost 4-0 to wigin and 5-2 to Fulham, with 442 we whipped man U Chelsea but lost 5-0 to spurs and 4-2 to Norwich.

As U can see both have merits and disadvantages.
BA HAS TO STAY

52 SupaToonKid // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:25 PM

Caulker has just signed a new deal at Spurs and is a great prospect for the future. AVB would not sell him to us for less than £10M if even that. I’d love him here but it’s not going to happen.

We need to focus our efforts on securing Douglas or Sakho as one of them two would really seal us up for CBs.

53 Robby Bobson // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:26 PM

Ed, how could we possibly get van der weil on loan…cus we could just pull out after 12 months and.then sign him for nothing

54 Tsunki // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:27 PM

Well its the afternoon of Friday, and pencil sharpening time has arrived. Transfer Sage we summon you! Invoke your powers, or at least tell us you’ve spun the pencil round and used the eraser on the other end. Put us out of your misery.

55 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:27 PM

Tarie…We must only have one formation and stick to it. That’s how you win things, you know?

56 wingspan // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:29 PM

@Geordie157

Your post has actually made me feel a lot better about our situation!
City, Utd, Chelski you cant compare us too, there on a different planet with money they can spend and the players they can attract. So lets look at the teams that could be in and around us at the end of the season.

Spurs – Dawson, Gallas, Vertonghen, Kaboul, Bassong, Caulker

Dawson – Sick note
Gallas – Over the hill
Vertonghen and Kaboul – Should be good
Bassong – Is he gonna be there? Not sure hes that happy being 4th choice
Caulker unproven

Arsenal – Vermaelen, Kosielney, Mertesacker, Djourou, Squillaci, Bartley

Vermalen – Very good
Kocielny – Not bad
Mertesaker, Djourou, Squillaci – Awful
Bartley – Unproven

Liverpool – Skrtel, Agger, Carragher, Coates, Wilson.

Skrtel – Not Bad
Agger – Off t man city
Carragher – over the hill
Coates – doesnt look good enough, decent at volleys tho!
Wilson unproven

Now i look at that and i think weve got 2 very good CB in Colo and Saylor, and willo gets a lot of unfair critisism on here in my eyes, hes not amazing but he does ok for a back up. I think one quality CB is needed and were easily as equipped as the teams around us for the CB positions.

57 Tsunki // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:36 PM

Wingspan – agree about Willo – lot of stick dished out for a CB who got us a long way through a season to 5th spot.

58 MagpieFan // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:42 PM

First time posting so be kind.

Anyone else worried that if we don’t sign a recognised striker in this transfer window we could be left with Shola if Cisse and Ba go to ACON? Wish Ashely would we would hurry up and sign some people, I know we can’t compete with the big guns in terms of transfer fees but where has the money from previous transfers gone, the money supposed to be invested annually and all the rest, with League Table finishing and TV rights for example? Bet we will end up trying to panic buy on deadline day again and only buying a few, youngsters cannot be relied upon all the time…

Rant Over :L

59 stevetoon85 // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:44 PM

Am I one of the only people who think VDW would be a better choice than Debuchy at right back???

Yes Debuchy had a great Euro’s, and VDW didn’t. Big deal? Its 3/4 games!!!! Remeber when Diouf tore up the WC back in 2002 for Senegal and Liverpool signed him for 10m purley based on those 4 games…..

First of all people seem to forget Debuchy isn’t even a proper right back. He has only played right back for 3 years, all his career he has been a Central midfielder. VDW is a proper right back.

Then thier is the age thing…..I totally get where we are coming from refusing to pay over the odd’s on what WE beleive is a players value. We’ve constantly heard Llambias mention “sell on value” So….if we match Lille’s valuation of £8m, and for the next 2 years Debuchy did go on to become one of the Worlds best right backs and wanted to move on….when he was 29 how much money do you think we would get for him? It certainly wouldn’t be as much as the £8m we paid for him….now i’m not saying I agree, but in the Clubs eyes, this is not good business.

VDW, if its true he can be had for £5-6m, and again once playing in the Prem went on to become on of the best right backs in Europe….If we we’re to sell him, he would be in his prime and we would get well over £10m for him. This I TOTALLY understand from the Clubs point of view.

Also, last question…..if before the Euros, you were asked, who would you rather have at the Toon, VDW for £6m or Debuchy for £8m??? Most people would have said VDW!!!! Its only becuase of Hollands awful performances people seem to have wrote VDW off.

60 cyprus // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:44 PM

Right back ok, but why are we desperately looking for a striker? We have two of the best in the league (learn to play together lads!) plus semi-decent back up. We need two top wingers (Ben Arfa prefers a more central role behind the forwards; Lennon- Bale style!) who can break up stubborn defences, then we are ready to go.

61 Toon73 // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:47 PM

There’s no way we are in for Greg VDW it’s just more BS.

Wake me up on the 18th zzzz zzzzz zzz zzzzzzz

62 Tsunki // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:47 PM

Many Twittists still saying this Debuchy saga (or is that ‘sage’?) is prob not over yet and this is all hardball from his club. They are waiting until Mikey cracks and gives in and…oh…wait…

63 Beattie25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:49 PM

Up until last week I was saying we need this player or that. This position is weak and we need this type of player and whilst I agree with the below (or above depending on how your reading the blog) I would be happy with anyone. Anyone!!

64 dave 1961 // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:49 PM

cyprus
one has a degenerative knee problem and the fix is a year out of the game.

65 Tsunki // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Here’s a thought. Sinister I know but what if Debuchy and his bosses are in agreement about him leaving, but while they play tough with the fee demand, he keeps spouting about desire to leave to stop NUFC from walking away? Like I said.

66 Robby Bobson // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:51 PM

if freddy shephed had forked out the extra few 100ks for miguel all them years ago instead of moving to stephen carr, we wouldnt be having this problem

67 cyprus // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Dave,
but he hasn’t been injured since, or looked vulnerable. And, that criminal of ours could come good too (ok, maybe!)

68 cyprus // Aug 3, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Robby,
there’s a ‘wise’ old saying in Cyprus, ‘if my grandmother had bxxls I’d call her grandfather’!

69 nightfa11 // Aug 3, 2012 at 1:00 PM

hope our club doesnt do that to debuchy.. i mean…he was probably told we will buy him since…april? cabaye wants him here…& we only need to upper our bid for a mio, 2 max..just sign him already..

cos if we switch our target now..not very trustworthy is it? besides..debuchy probably turned down big..perhaps even more profitable offers to come here..

70 chris_g // Aug 3, 2012 at 1:09 PM

stevetoon85 – Gregory van der Wiel was recently quoted as saying “it’s never a good thing when your club wants you to leave”
http://www.eastlondonadvertiser.co.uk/football/arsenal_chelsea_spurs_target_blasts_current_club_1_1454788

So the question is – if Ajax are desperate to get rid of him, why would we want him?

71 bollance // Aug 3, 2012 at 1:10 PM

For anyone doubting the squad / team being better then at start of last season you just need to compare players man for man like Krul last year was a rookie and now established as a top keeper in league. Colo starts season after being named in prem team of season plus back in argie squad. Cabaye just starred for France. Hba back in the French squad. Santon 6+ months prem experience. The list goes on..

72 Robby Bobson // Aug 3, 2012 at 1:11 PM

Cyprus….haha

shame the saying isnt if my grandma had bxxls she could do a job at rigjt back…cus that woild probably be cheaper and would solve our problems

73 geoff777 // Aug 3, 2012 at 1:13 PM

There are lots of quality fullbacks many in the 4m-7m price range.

If Tavernier, Ferguson and Dummett are close to breaking through perhaps we only need one.
If they are more than a season away we need two.

VDW, Cissoko, Debuchy, Pieters – I really don’t mind, but they need to be signed asap. So we can sell Simpson if he won’t sign.

74 ~Debuchery on a Dreamboat~ // Aug 3, 2012 at 1:28 PM

I wouldn’t say Dummet is close to breaking through. He hasn’t played with the First team during the BPL season. Only during pre-season. I reckon he should be sent out on loan.

Tavernier imo should start making appearences, Ferguson as well.

75 pardews plan B // Aug 3, 2012 at 1:31 PM

Todays childhood footballer of the day is Thomas häßler.

76 Rotonda heights // Aug 3, 2012 at 1:38 PM

chris g

exactly I’m always very wary of being ” offered ” a a player.

77 pawl250 // Aug 3, 2012 at 1:41 PM

Sorry but for me Weil is a very weak full back. How he gets in the Netherlands team bemuses me! Infact is doesnt Netherlands lack quality in the back four, FACT! he is actually playing in the back four! FACT!

You only have to look at why Ajax arent offering a new contract and wonder why the would let a prize asset get this close to the end of his current deal. Even we have offered Simpson a new contract, and he is probably our weakest player in the current starting 11 with STaylor replacing Williamson.

Debuchy is a MUST, no lets look elsewhere just put the extra £1m in and finish the deal he is worth it! and has clearly shown his desire to join! He wants to play for the club! and that is good enough for me when a player of his ability wants to come you just need to play Lille at their game and meet the valuation!

78 Dondatta13 // Aug 3, 2012 at 1:42 PM

stevetoon85 @59…

Mate what you fail to see is that, IF we land Debuchy we also have a VERY happy Cabaye. You will get greater performances from midfield. Win Win for our club I think

79 jesperfuglsang // Aug 3, 2012 at 1:50 PM

FYI

VDW have publicly declaired that we won’t sign a new contract at Ajax and want to move on.

That is why Ajax is offering him around.

He will cost about the same as Debuchy.

Ajax is like most teams in Holland and France for that matter; they like rip lower leagues for their talents for nothing just to bitch when clubs from bigger leagues won’t pay over the odds B-)

I bid like us you could say lol

80 pawl250 // Aug 3, 2012 at 1:50 PM

@stevetoon the fact that Wiel cant defend to save his life may just have something to do with it!

Also you argument before the euros is a moot point as we could have probably got Debuchy for 4-5m had he not been the France right back for the tournament! Which he seemed comfortable to me!

Your argument is the equivalent to lets not get Henry because when Wenger signed him he only played in right midfield for so many years but all of a sudden has been put in new role and started doing well so lets not get him cos he wasnt a striker before Arsenal signed him!

Its also like Ryan Babel scenario the kid was quoted by several managers, coaches stating he will be the next Henry as he has a similar style then he goes to Liverpool and they do the opposite to what Wenger did with Henry and play him as a winger then he is regarded as a flop!

Anita was used as a LB for a few years now he is recognised as a centre midfielder because he has excelled there but oh no we shouldnt by him now he has played elsewhere on the pitch!

81 SupaToonKid // Aug 3, 2012 at 1:51 PM

I wouldn’t mind us getting a look in at Nuri Sahin. Looks like he’s in a similar situation that Santon was at Inter, can’t get a game but undoubted top quality player with world class potential. Mourinho has stated he’ll listen to offers but how much would they be prepared to cut their losses & would Sahin take such a substantial pay cut? An unlikely deal but hey the Toon do pull off some quality deals, would love to have Sahin!

82 JAMSHA // Aug 3, 2012 at 1:52 PM

good player.. but doesnt wana leave ajax.. no point in gettng him as he wont give his best for us… DEBUCHY TO NEWCASTLE WILL HAPPEN.. ITS UP TO HIM NOW .. i guess he will do the same as ben arfa an wont train with lille

83 JAMSHA // Aug 3, 2012 at 1:54 PM

is Charles N’ Zogbia still good for newcastle?

84 pawl250 // Aug 3, 2012 at 1:54 PM

“When you go on to celebrate your 24th birthday, you expect a nice, lucrative contract from your club.” “That certainly will keep you happy, but it seems unlikely that I would be hearing any good offer from the club now.”

“Playing at Ajax was always my dream, but now the club is making life difficult for me.” “Unfortunately, the policy of the club is not benefiting their youth players.”

“I am always surprised why the Ajax youth players receive smaller salaries as compared to the players who come from elsewhere.”

Sounds to me like he wants a new contract?! also if you were to even enquire about Wiel to any Ajax fan they would be happy to tell you he is very overrated and cannot defend to save his life!

AND THATS PLAYING IN THE DUTCH LEAGUE!

85 Rotonda heights // Aug 3, 2012 at 1:58 PM

I agree you can alter systems, but it just seems as if 433 is made for us, given that storming run at the back end of the season. Sure it’s not going to work every time but on balance it maximises the potential of Cabay, benny and Cisse as it encourages a more passing game. With 442 the game is more stretched and longer.

86 pardews plan B // Aug 3, 2012 at 1:59 PM

I am sorry if anybody ostensibly from there but im on shields road now and its bloody horrible. As are most of through people.

87 roadfighter // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:00 PM

another potential target we could miss out on … http://www.clubcall.com/sunderland/city-starlet-set-for-cats-deal-1450368.html?

88 pawl250 // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:01 PM

@DONDATTA13

Eeeeeerm no Cabaye wont improve because Debuchy comes! Thats like saying because he has no best friends currently at the club he is only playing 70% of his game!

Oh wait now we have signed his best mate he will play his best 100% for the club!

I fail too see your logic as clearly the above would be retarded! It may make him slightly happier but beyond that I fail to see how it will change his game.

AND if Debuchy doesnt come it wont have any negative effect like people have been stating too!

89 RobertNufc25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:01 PM

Paul Scharner over the wall…
Paul Scharner over the wall…

90 SupaToonKid // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:02 PM

Sebastian Jung is one to watch. I think he could be 2nd choice behind Debuchy. German u21 RB for Frankfurt at 22 but is very likely for German full squad this season as they keep playing Boateng out of position there.

91 RobertNufc25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:03 PM

Sorry to say I wasn’t impressed in the slightest my this guy at the euros.

Wasn’t Impressed with any dutch defender to be fair..

92 pardews plan B // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:05 PM

@Robert me neither but they were a very distracted team with many an ego flying about

93 pawl250 // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:06 PM

@Roadfighter

Loan deals are what landed Sunderland in the situation they were last year with no team!

What is the benefit of a loan deal? Lets see if he plays well at Sunderland i.e. Welbeck City will simply just say you arent going heres 100k a week and he wont be leaving!

If he plays shite Sunderlands are stuck with him for a year and placed faith in an unproven striker!

Alot of his goals were penalties last year, I dont see the fuss about him! PL is a much faster league than the Dutch league and he will probably be lucky to see 1/4 of the goals he got last year.

BUT as stated should he play well City wont allow him to leave! FACT!

94 Beattie25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:08 PM

If the club buys Van Der Weil then he’ll be a good signing.

It doesn’t matter if he is not as good as Debuchy at this stage of his career. All that matters is that he is better than Simpson. An upgrade is an upgrade and Van Der Weil if coached correctly can improve beyond Debichys current level.

However I still think Debuchy will be a nufc player before the deadline comes.

95 pardews plan B // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:10 PM

As much as i like you expressing your views and good points can we tone it down on the FACT! Please.
You are right about the loan situation its practically lose lose unless they have the option to buy at the end

96 Beardo Ameobi // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:12 PM

Hello, what’s occurring today, you morally misguided fellows?

97 pardews plan B // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:12 PM

Beattie between now and 5 we’ll have debuchy

98 RobertNufc25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:12 PM

Yea I remember seeing him being linked with Chelsea & somebody else before the Euros.

Couldnt really see what all the fuss was about.

Maybe im just bitter because I backed Holland to win the euros… lol

99 RobertNufc25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:14 PM

My last post was a big fat FACT by the way…..

100 roadfighter // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:19 PM

well not sure how true the article is but it clearly states “a report in the Italian media claims it is Sunderland who will take him in a loan deal worth around £1.5million with a view to a £6.5million permanent deal next summer”. just saying…

101 Beardo Ameobi // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:20 PM

VDW is rhubarb and custard.

102 IFC.Toon // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:20 PM

Anyone fancy heading up to Lille with me and we’ll knock some sense into Seydoux and Garcia

103 MagpiesFlyHigh // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:22 PM

Transfer Sage said we have a medical booked for this afternoon. Let’s see if he improves on his prediction %….:-)

104 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:23 PM

72 Robby Bobson // Aug 3, 2012 at 1:11 PM

Cyprus….haha

shame the saying isnt if my grandma had bxxls she could do a job at rigjt back…cus that woild probably be cheaper and would solve our problems

Love it

So, I wonder how Debuchys medical is going?

105 roadfighter // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:26 PM

Beardo Ameobi // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:20 PM

VDW is rhubarb and custard.

Is this a good thing or a bad thing?

106 pardews plan B // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:28 PM

I love rhubarb and custard. That cat and dog are class

107 RobertNufc25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:29 PM

He’s maybe in doing his medical now ya never no.

Im trying to be positive here lol

108 arroeben // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:29 PM

Hey lads, are we alrd in the Europa league or are we only in euro qualification round?

109 rainrix // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:31 PM

MFH… if nothing happens everyone basically gets unlimited ammo against him for future battles

110 RobertNufc25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:31 PM

Ok he’s not in doing his medical & this is probably gonna drag on for another 3 weeks…

Now im being honest…. FACT

111 MagPieMan // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:31 PM

Why is it that lots of people on this blog keep on writing about Newcastle playing 4-3-3? To me, at the end of last season, it looked as though we were playing a 4-2-3-1 formation.
Krul
Simpson/perch Williamson Collocini Santon
Tiote Gutierez
Ben Arfa Cabaye Ba
Cisse

This was the team for the last dozen games of the season. This is why I think we will sign Anita. To play with Tiote. I think this is the formation Pards wants to play.

I could be wrong though.

112 jimmymagpie // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:32 PM

We adly nee a big strong physical centre half, or else more beatings as at wigan, everton, Fulham, orwich, etc, and more if Krul hadn’t been so terrific. We can’t defend the ball in the air across our own box. Pardew admitted at the end of last sason that this was a cause for oncern, and tha one of his main priorities in the summer was a centre back who would also provide a goal threat from our set pieces.I think thi is mre pressing than a full back, especialy if Simpson isstaying. He would have loved Vertonghen. Sorry about the errors lads, but not at my best today after hospital treatment yesterday.

113 rainrix // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:32 PM

@arroeben…. We have to play a 2 legged play off round 1st. If we win we go to the group stages

114 pardews plan B // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:33 PM

Robert stop. Please. Every fact is like a razor blade to my eyes

115 pawl250 // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:33 PM

Unfortunately the world isnt as black and white as a loan with a permanent deal for x amount. If he had a good season City would simply whisper in his ear and he will refuse a move. When money is involved people will go to extreme lengths to get it especially a young footballer who has not earned a decent wage packet yet.

As for my FACTs the word I use only when stating a FACT is simply trying to make some people realise how ridiculous some of their comments actually are

If Debuchy comes Cabaye will become Spiderman and will become physically impossible to get the ball past him!! – For those that cant tell that sentence was pure sarcasm!

116 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:35 PM

Word of the day…

…Fact…

fact/fakt/
Noun:

1) A thing that is indisputably the case.
2) Information used as evidence or as part of a report or news article.

Hmmm….not sure point 2 helps this at all.

117 Beardo Ameobi // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:36 PM

Roadfighter

Terrible!

http://www.newcastleunited-mad.co.uk/news/tmnw/debuchy_has_had_enough_of_lilles_negativity_751091/index.shtml

I think this is an extended version of Debuchy’s quotes about Lille scuppering his move. Telling how he speaks about them in the past tense – he’s already an adopted Geordie in his heart and mind – this will happen!

118 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:37 PM

pawl….so the last sentence isn’t fact?

119 RobertNufc25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:39 PM

Fact Fact Fact Fact Fact Fact Fact Fact Fact.

It’s all about the Facts…..

120 pardews plan B // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:40 PM

@jimmy the thing is we have saylor as that kind of cb but his injury record really makes you think we need a different first teamer or a back up for him who’s pretty much at first team level anyway.
Its a real shame. He’s fallen to the woodgate syndrome. Really good defender but always injured.
Woody is arguably our best cb in premiership years when he was fit.

121 Beardo Ameobi // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:40 PM

Debuchy will force this one through. If we’ve agreed personal terms then I’m sure we’ve seduced him into coming at all costs.

Two tidbits about Debuchy, he provided the most successful crosses and won the most headers of any FB in Ligue 1 last season, I was a little surprised about the latter stat, given he’s just shy of 5’10. Must have good positioning and spring!

122 Conaldo // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:41 PM

Transfer sage? Oh transfer sage? Where for art thou transfer sage?

Where is this medical you promised us??

123 RobertNufc25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:41 PM

If he really wants to move put in a transfer request & demand to move.

It’s not something that I agree with,but players have the power these days to leave if they want too.

Plus Im getting bored off the whole saga..

124 pardews plan B // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:41 PM

@Robert aaaargh my eyes

125 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:42 PM

Beardo…Must be the frogs legs….Poor, I know.

126 MagpiesFlyHigh // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:44 PM

Jimmy

Reckon the CB is the top priority. How do you rate Douglas then ?

I hadn’t realised Debuchy was RB converted from CM but knew Anita DM was a former LB.
These guys would give us a lot of flexibility, knowing Pards preferences for adaptable players.

127 jimmymagpie // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:46 PM

Plan B – yes, he puts his body on the line more than any other defender we have, hence the trauma/impact injuries, but the last one, the achilles, was shear bad luck. Let’s hope his luck changes this season!

128 Magpies-till-d3ath // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:50 PM

If Transfer sage is somehow correct, I’ll p**s myself with laughter!!!

129 jimmymagpie // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:50 PM

Magpies – I haven’t seen enough of him to form an opinion myself, but have heard him described as another Bramble – bags of potential, but too prone to big errors and very suspect temperament. I’m told that Pardew would back in for Tomkins, given any encouragement, now that Collins has gone back to West Ham.

130 RobertNufc25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:50 PM

I still think Scharner could do a job for us…

Im not sure exactly what job just yet,but I’ll let you’s know when I decide…

131 MagpiesFlyHigh // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Cleaning the bogs ?

132 RobertNufc25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Jimmy the whole Tompkins stuff was a ploy to get him a new contract at West Ham apparently.

His new agent is that Mark Curtis bloke.
Also Carrolls,Nolans & Fat Shams agent.

133 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Robert…The whol Scharner thing is getting a bit old now, don’t you think? Don’t you have another scharner you’d like to discuss? I mean subject you’d like to discuss?

134 RobertNufc25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:54 PM

MagpiesFlyHigh // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:53 PM

I was thinking grass cutter myself,but im sure he could be a good bog cleaner too…

135 pardews plan B // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:57 PM

@Robert. Groundsman? Tea boy? Cabayes fluffer?
@jimmy the last one was just bad luck like when a player gets injured off a hard tackle or landing funny

136 RobertNufc25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:57 PM

Ibiza

Wash your mouth out.
A legend like Scharner deserves the attention!!

137 SupaToonKid // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:58 PM

I don’t give a f who we sign now as I have faith in the Club’s scouting network that they will be class; work well for the team. All I care about is that we sign these players quickly. I don’t want to get to the Spurs game with no signings!

138 MagpiesFlyHigh // Aug 3, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Robert

Especially if we gave him a brush

Jimmy

There’s a lot of positives about him too…the Bramble comparison may well be very unfair..

139 pardews plan B // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Cabayes fluffer is actually like one of those dream jobs like one on a tropical island

140 RobertNufc25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:01 PM

If Debuchy signs today…

I promise never to talk about Scharner again…

141 pardews plan B // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:02 PM

Aye brambles made a few more “suspect” decisions than Douglas

142 RobertNufc25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:04 PM

pardews plan B // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:02 PM

What like ??
Sexual assault??

143 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:05 PM

Robert…Now who needs to wash their mouth out?

144 RobertNufc25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:11 PM

Ibizatoon – Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:05 PM

Ketsbia has turned me into a troll….

145 pardews plan B // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:14 PM

@Robert way to step on my point

146 jesperfuglsang // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:15 PM

Have we signed Debuchy yet?

…do you guys think it was the peanut solution that backfired?

147 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:16 PM

Robert…Do you now have pink crazy hair that sticks out about 2ft?

148 AsprillaCartWheels // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:17 PM

Due to big mike being cheap, we will not be getting debuchy this transfer window. You do not win the league/cup with a right back, lets look away. Why are we doing this to ourselves? Names after names that is nowhere close to be signed is being bandied around, again & again.

149 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:17 PM

Jesper…No and No. The peanut solution was perfected and there is no way it could backfire.

150 jesperfuglsang // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:19 PM

@Ibiza

It was perfect wasn’t it lol

Is there any news on Debuchy’ suppose meeting with Seydoux?

151 RobertNufc25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:20 PM

Haha yes mate….

152 MagpiesFlyHigh // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:24 PM

Ibiza

Not quite true.
the peanut solution was trumped by the cashew credit control device

153 nufc786 // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:24 PM

they need to be kp peanuts though ibiza…..

154 nufc786 // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:25 PM

cashew credit all the way for me……

155 lesh // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:25 PM

That pic of Rednapp in the Fantasy Football ad’s a tad annoying!

156 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:26 PM

Robert….Bet it looks lovely

Jesper….Indeed it was, in fact, is.

Not heard anything else since this morning on Debuchy. I am expecting our in house ITK to turn up any time now to break the latest development though. I’m giddy with excitement.

157 jesperfuglsang // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:26 PM

…that’s the honey rosted ones right?

158 RobertNufc25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:26 PM

Somebody start a rumour so we cant talk about it..

159 nufc786 // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:26 PM

lesh
more than a tad annoying……

160 RobertNufc25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:27 PM

*Can* talk about it..

161 nufc786 // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:29 PM

Douglas Happy To Stay With Twente

Newcastle United target Douglas has re-iterated his desire to remain with Dutch side FC Twente. The Brazilian-born centre-back has been linked with a move to Newcastle and it was reported earlier this week that the club were willing to offer him £40,000 a week to move; however, Douglas has told Eredivisie Live that although his future is up in the air he would like to remain with Twente.

“It’s still not sure that I will stay but I am very happy here and basically I will stay another year,” said the 24-year-old.

“I will focus on FC Twente. Nobody knows anything of Newcastle United: I have not heard anything, nor have the club.”

Any move by Newcastle would have to wait until later this month as only then will Douglas qualify for a Dutch passport thus negating the need for a work permit.

im miffed…….

162 RobertNufc25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:31 PM

All our targets seem to be dropping like flys.

I predict a lot of nuts & Scharner talk over the next two weeks.

163 pardews plan B // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:35 PM

@lesh but its cos he’ll only be managing fantasy football teams for a while

164 Supreme // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:37 PM

Smokescreens everywhere

165 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:37 PM

Hang on hang on….Are you suggesting we’re not on top of the impact alternative nuts have on the markets? I laugh at you and your lack of faith in the peanut solution.

Please think before you post negatively about this revolutionary system. It is perfection. Look up perfection in the dictionary, there you will find the peanut solution. Fact.

166 jesperfuglsang // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:38 PM

what is the situation with our fantasy league this season? I know Ed will post one, but what is the general concensus?

167 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:38 PM

C’mon transfer sage dont let me down!! Last time it was carrs fault, he was the new signing so whos this medical booked for!!!

168 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:39 PM

@ Ibiza

It also shows up under the word revolutionary

169 Super Magpie // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:39 PM

So then, any more meltdowns today?
Cba to look through all the posts.

170 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:39 PM

Christ, I’m begginning to get worried that Ketsbaia has actually been hired by the club to take care of transfers…..

171 Rake // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:39 PM

Anyone think we could get Chedjou, 27 years old now though.. . .

172 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:40 PM

I have heard, believe it or don’t, that Mike Ashley has found someone to buy the club for a gazillion trillion peanuts and is stalling on all transfers until he knows whether the deal is on or off.

I have also heard that this mystery buyer, may or may not be Mr. Paul Scharner himself.

Things may be looking good on the Toon guys.

Discuss..

173 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:41 PM

My dream shopping list is

Dembele
Debuchy
Remy

Please Mike, pretty please

174 Super Magpie // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:43 PM

Ibiza

We would be unstoppable!
Oh wait, what if ashley’s allergic to nuts?

175 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Big Pappa…Of course, how could I miss that out?

176 Magpies-till-d3ath // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:45 PM

If there is a medical booked, surely it will be for Anita. Right?

177 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Super Magpie….With nuts like his, no chance

Right then, back off to work. Catch you guys later, but gutted i’m going to miss the final hour of Debuchy watch.

I fully expect a new article when i return about the wonderful U Turn on the whole sage and to see Debuchy holding hands with Transfer Sage at SJP.

HWTL!

178 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:49 PM

Maybe this afternoons medical is to check if Ashley has a nut allergy? Bye

179 rainrix // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:50 PM

Anyone watching the womens football at sjp? One of the us’ forwards is absolutly stunning

180 nobby sol // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:52 PM

debuchy and carroll for 20 million
or
van der weil and sulejmani for 12?

181 Novocastrian66 // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:52 PM

I think the medical will have been booked under the expectation that the Debuchy deal was agreed.
Not going to happen now.

182 jesperfuglsang // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:53 PM

@Super Magpie

He’s nut hehe…

Seydoux wasn’t happy with the backs of mix nuts MA send him regarding the Debuchy transfer MA had eaten all the macademia nuts!

183 roadfighter // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:53 PM

@ Pawl250 – I shall assume the “ridiculous comments” were aimed at me…

Well I was merely posting that as it had some reference to this blog as there was a thread asking bloggers who they prefer in terms of a striker, Guidetti was on that list of 4.

Also in terms of unproven, are you referring to unproven in the premier league? Well let’s then look at a list of “unproven” players who arrived from the Dutch top flight:

Van Persie
KuytVan Nistelrooy
Overmars

The list goes on.

Oh well… if we had it your way we’d only sign players playing and proven in England..

184 MagpiesFlyHigh // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:56 PM

rainrix

better looking than Cisse then ?

185 Toon_Jock // Aug 3, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Off topic, I really hate Suarez…. this made me smile though!!!

http://www1.skysports.com/olympics/story/15234/7956772

186 surreytoon // Aug 3, 2012 at 4:00 PM

Dear Inspector Clouseau,

Your man Debuchy has had enough of Lille and wants to move to Newcastle. Be a good chap now, and sign Anthony Réveillère, Bosingwa or whomever and let him go. I know you like the spotlight and all that, but seriously, with that hat and scarf, the spotlight does not like you.

Kind Regards,
Surreytoon

187 rainrix // Aug 3, 2012 at 4:00 PM

MFH… Id say so m8 . Not cabaye level but still very nice. Have a google search her names alex morgan you will not regret!

188 HullMag6 // Aug 3, 2012 at 4:00 PM

Friday medical – AC? Lol

189 MagpiesFlyHigh // Aug 3, 2012 at 4:10 PM

Hull Mag

That’ll be at A & E then

190 MagpiesFlyHigh // Aug 3, 2012 at 4:12 PM

rainrix

hmmm !

Women’s football does have some advantages..unless you’re Xisco..

191 magpiebop // Aug 3, 2012 at 4:14 PM

Anyone think Guttierez, Santon, RTaylor, Perch, Dummett, Tavernier and maybe Simpson could be our fullback cover this season?

192 tequilamag // Aug 3, 2012 at 4:16 PM

magpiebop. dont forget Ferguson could be best of the lot

193 magpiebop // Aug 3, 2012 at 4:19 PM

Cheers Tequilamag. Ferguson aswell!

194 tequilamag // Aug 3, 2012 at 4:20 PM

I do think Jonas could be a good solution, especially if Marveaux hits good form

195 tarie4 // Aug 3, 2012 at 4:25 PM

Jimmy

I have to disagree with U about a big CB, how many goals did we concide from corners and set plays?? Not alot as U would have us believe. Williamson was magnificent at that. But he did make the odd blunder (being out jumped by moses) the loses to spurs and esp Fulham were due to pace. Non of our CB are quick of the mark or on the turn.

That’s the problem, we dnt need a towering CB, we have Williamson and a big hearted Saylor for that. We need a ball player like collo and one who has a bit of pace on him (pards loves a high line )

If we had Williamson for Norwich away, we might have won or at least drawn. We concided many goals due lack of pace rather than Ariel bombardments.

Pards wats a CB who can score goals from corners etc, (Williamson isn’t very effective and Saylor wasn’t there.

If we get another towering CB, I hope its Douglas (and he is not prone to mistakes) as he might not be fast, but he is very athletic ensuring that he can turn quickly and is fairly faster than Williamson and collo, which is good enuf for me. And he is a ball player.
After vertogen he is regarded as the next best CB in Holland (the league)
And one Dutch reporter said as soon as he gets his passport, he will walk into the Dutch team at CB. And he is still 24 years.
Who told U he is like bramble?? Hmmm

196 Beardo Ameobi // Aug 3, 2012 at 4:30 PM

Right now Spurs have only one recognised ST in Defoe (not a great one), puts our transfer troubles into perspective.

Vetonghen has a baptism of fire awaiting him too, making his PL debut at St James’, against Cisse and/or Ba and HBA

Fun Olympic fact – the games last 17 days, the athletes have been handed a total of 150,000 free condoms between them, almost 15 each.

It is the XXX Olympiad afterall!

197 Batfastard // Aug 3, 2012 at 4:32 PM

Introducing Newcastle united and the magic , the wonderful , the invisible 35 Million pounds!

198 tarie4 // Aug 3, 2012 at 4:33 PM

That mbia would be the best option at CB, he is quick and composed and Tompkins signed a new deal recently, he would cost a lot, over 15 mill. Westham will want the best price.

199 pardews plan B // Aug 3, 2012 at 4:33 PM

@tarie losses not loses. You’re whole argument is now obsolete. Lol

Joking aside, you make a very good point. If saylor stays fit a fast ball playing cb will be ideal but i think we need a big guy as an insurance policy.
In a perfect world we would have both

200 pardews plan B // Aug 3, 2012 at 4:36 PM

@batfastard ???

201 ~Debuchery on a Dreamboat~ // Aug 3, 2012 at 4:39 PM

@Pardew Plan B

I guess the money we spent on Santon, Cabaye, Obertan, Cisse, Bigri came from a different source… I’m sure thats what Batfastard is implying.

202 Beardo Ameobi // Aug 3, 2012 at 4:42 PM

http://www.nufcfans.co.uk/photo-jonas-and-colo-in-the-stands/

203 tarie4 // Aug 3, 2012 at 4:43 PM

pardews plan B

As I said, we have Williamson for that. Why spend money on another. Against Arsenal man U amongst others, we were comfortable with ball going into our box from corners etc, but van pussy turned him easily, and that goal against westbrom, he was frightened of long’s pace, arsenal need a towering defender, we dnt, unless we sell williamson, I think we need pace more, but a kompany will do, he is a beast aswell as quick. A complete defender. And city got him for about 9 million (there abouts)

204 tarie4 // Aug 3, 2012 at 4:44 PM

pardews plan B
and its your not you’re

205 BigHairyMama // Aug 3, 2012 at 4:51 PM

Hi lads long time reader but first post!
Just wondered if you’d seen the new facebook rumour from Nufc Transfer Rumours…
Is it bull or any truth? Yeah I know its facebook. lol

Nufc Transfer Rumours
Newcastle have bid of 2.7m accepted for Sebastien Corchia of sochaux.

206 RobertNufc25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 4:51 PM

Joey Barton joining Fleetwood town 2moro apparently..

6 month loan deal.

Fall from grace like lol

207 pardews plan B // Aug 3, 2012 at 4:54 PM

Damn autocomplete

208 Papiss_Myself // Aug 3, 2012 at 4:55 PM

Big Pappa

You can have your dream shopping list if I can have mine

Thats
Barbara Palvin (or any other Victoria Secret model)
Jessica Ennis
& Jessica Rabbit

Come on Ashley, buy me them please?

209 roadfighter // Aug 3, 2012 at 4:55 PM

i reckon Jonas could be cover for pretty much any position in the team besides CF or CB…

210 RobertNufc25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 5:15 PM

This Itk lark is easy.

Bbc now say Barton to Fleetwood.

Autographs later….

211 Andymax // Aug 3, 2012 at 5:16 PM

LOL, here we go again;

http://www.caughtoffside.com/2012/08/03/newcastle-united-make-new-bid-for-lille-full-back-mathieu-debuchy/

212 pardews plan B // Aug 3, 2012 at 5:17 PM

@roadwarrior gk?

213 bambams // Aug 3, 2012 at 5:27 PM

We won’t be held to ransom and I understand that much but this bloke is a very good player and has two more years on his contract. He won’t be a steal

214 bambams // Aug 3, 2012 at 5:28 PM

That’s in relation to Debuchy by the way

215 tequilamag // Aug 3, 2012 at 5:30 PM

its always about Debuchy mate

216 lukes26 // Aug 3, 2012 at 5:39 PM

Debuchy is as good as signed…this is all just haggling over whether the bow comes free with gift box.

does anyone remember when Llambias got drunk and said horrible things about Liverpool and Hughton.. He said about the deal with L-pool “It is about control. We had the control. We knew the Torres deal was there. We drew that f****** deal, perhaps the ultimate.”

and about Hughton “With Chris, he couldn’t cope with where we are mentally. We are aggressive. You need to be aggressive. I don’t want a manager below me who can’t argue. You guys don’t understand how f****** horrible we can be.”

So, basically, I have total faith that Debuchy will be a Geordie very soon. Llambias, Pardew and Co. have control & know that Lille have very little leverage…they already have signed a replacement and Debuchy wants to go to NUFC.

217 pizzicatochan // Aug 3, 2012 at 5:43 PM

Let’s find one post of the whole July that does not have “Debuchy” in it.

218 Wandering Geordie // Aug 3, 2012 at 5:44 PM

Lille are currently in negotiation with Lyon for their right back Anthony Réveillère

219 toonLYF // Aug 3, 2012 at 5:53 PM

we should just start targetting all of Lille’s right-back targets, they’ll shit themselves and give us Debuchy for about 5m, they know fine well they’re gonna have to sell him, most likely to us, so we are in control here tbh, not worried at all.

NO to Van Der Weil though.

220 MagpiesFlyHigh // Aug 3, 2012 at 5:58 PM

WG

where do you get that one from ?

221 Hatem's better than Messi // Aug 3, 2012 at 6:01 PM

lol … Joey’s always pushing his luck.

Can’t see the FA calling for this but worth a try I guess.

222 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Wait a minute…so it’s gone 5pm and no news about a medical or anything from our ITK?

I feel so let down.

223 WWYCD // Aug 3, 2012 at 6:12 PM

Soooo no signing and no developments am close to saying this is a joke

224 Klatoon // Aug 3, 2012 at 6:13 PM

its always about Debuchy

225 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 6:15 PM

Yo…But not quite there yet?

226 pizzicatochan // Aug 3, 2012 at 6:15 PM

Ibiza – that piece of news should not be trusted in the first place at all.

Again, we want to achieve the Cat 1 Development whatever, but we also want to see more players coming in, why, and how could both things happen at the same time?

I suggest to give Tavernier a chance…

227 Beardo Ameobi // Aug 3, 2012 at 6:16 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A9bastien_Corchia

Someone’s meddling with Wiki again.

228 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 6:16 PM

Everyone seen this…

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7960345/Prem-announce-U21s-competition

229 redondo77 // Aug 3, 2012 at 6:17 PM

I think Carr is the one who gives the numbers on how much NUFC should bid for players as he watched them and he is the only one who can evaluate our targets.
If Carr says 6m is the maximum bid NUFC should make then that’s how much NUFC is willing to spend for that player.
Carr has all the information for decision making.

230 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 6:18 PM

Pizzi…I was joking mate, please, the day I truly believe someone under the name of “transfer sage” on a blog, come to Ibiza and beat me senseless.

So, you think Simmo and Tav to battle it out? See how they got on until January?

231 Hatem's better than Messi // Aug 3, 2012 at 6:19 PM

@WWYCD

We have exactly 4 weeks – 28 days more of this window to go.

Plenty of time for signings but I wouldn’t be surprised if we were in the same position on Aug 31st.
Watching Sky News and waiting for the insulting but predictable failed late attempt to sign someone.
N’Zogbia … Ruiz … ???

232 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 6:19 PM

Beardo…Don’t you think it’s true then?

233 ryans86 // Aug 3, 2012 at 6:21 PM

why dont we drop our intrest in Debuchy and put some trust in simpson he done us proud last season got us into europe maybe should sign a cb , creative midfielder and forward ie raul albiol wasted talent at real madrid along with the likes of kaka who going by real madrids intrest in the transfer market would be cheap also javi martinez what a player also another forward is gary hooper who is banging them in for celtic again could be cheap and young considering scottish football is in decline

234 redondo77 // Aug 3, 2012 at 6:22 PM

Nice job, Beardo

235 WWYCD // Aug 3, 2012 at 6:24 PM

Ibiza
Give it a week mate and the pitch folk comes out

Hatem
True we still have time but we seem to of made next to no head way in first teamers since last season

236 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 6:26 PM

Yo….Must get in to the basement and buy some polish.

Hatem…Wouldn’t it be nice to have a transfer deadline day and not have that churning feeling in your stomach? Oh well, chances are we will.

237 Super Magpie // Aug 3, 2012 at 6:27 PM

Lads, I know this is pretty sad but I’ve just come back from 3-0 at home against the mackems to win 4-3 with 10 men on football manager.

Imagine if this actually happened, it would be the greatest moment in the last decade. The whole stadium would just erupt into mass jubilation the look on the mackems faces would be priceless.

238 MagpiesFlyHigh // Aug 3, 2012 at 6:31 PM

SM

who virtually scored ?

239 Super Magpie // Aug 3, 2012 at 6:35 PM

Went down to 10men after 3 minutes

Vaughan (6)
Larson FK (11)
Andy Johnson (39)

Cisse (44)
Cisse( 57)
Cabaye (59)
Cisse (76)

240 WWYCD // Aug 3, 2012 at 6:36 PM

Ibiza
Could do a trophy parade and pitchfolk ralley all in the one day! Soon as that damned bus driver gets back to me

241 pizzicatochan // Aug 3, 2012 at 6:39 PM

Ibiza – Yes, I think Tavernier and Simmo are gonna fight for the RB position, but if Pardew prefers playing Tavernier in CB, that’s going to be another story.

In the meantime, Jonas, Raylor, Saylor, Gosling.. are all capable in RB. *ahem ahem*

242 JackButler // Aug 3, 2012 at 6:43 PM

Are we all out for blood cause the Debuchy deal still hasn’t happened?

243 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 6:44 PM

Yo…Ah yes a parade and protest all in one. Not conflicting at all

Pizzi….I’d be happy enough. I’m personally not panicking about incoming players. If we get some first team players, great. If not, I think we can survive until January. It’s not going to ruin my season. But then again, I most likely lack ambition

244 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 6:47 PM

JB….It’s surprisingly calm tbh…..perhaps the calm before the storm?

245 Kyo // Aug 3, 2012 at 6:48 PM

There is no way we survive in any of the cup competitions by January with our current squad.

246 JackButler // Aug 3, 2012 at 6:50 PM

Ibiza – The deal will happen, it maybe later rather than sooner, but the fact that he wants to come, we ant him and Lille will sell if the money is right, we are now in pissing contest stand off

247 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 6:51 PM

Kyo….That is quite possibly true. However, I don’t think the board are targeting the cups as priority, so therefore doubt it will change their transfer strategy. Not saying whether it’s right or wrong, just where I think we’re at.

If we can get targets at our valuations, they will come, if not, we will rely on the squad / youth players more.

248 JackButler // Aug 3, 2012 at 6:53 PM

Kyo – With the same squad that we had last season that will be bolstered by 4/5 top class youngsters stepping up, we are stronger now than last season

249 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 6:53 PM

JB….We shall see. It would seem the deal is there to be done and that if he really wants to come he’ll make it happen. Just not going to wind myself up with it in the meantime.

Found too many new grey hairs as it is this summer

250 eastend toon // Aug 3, 2012 at 6:54 PM

NUFC= NEVER held to ransom!

we play hard ball and long may it continue

251 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 6:55 PM

Plus, I know injuries can occur at any time, but we would seem to have Sammy, STaylor and Marv back, which gives us further options.

IMO, no need to panic…quite yet anyway.

252 TorqToon // Aug 3, 2012 at 6:56 PM

Good evening gents! Not been on since very early this morning. Have I missed anything of grave importance?!

253 pizzicatochan // Aug 3, 2012 at 6:57 PM

Ibiza, moreover, I think there are some other youngters getting ready for the first team duties, so those “are like new signings” (I like this line a lot).

Hopefully, Dummett and Fergie can also step up challenging the LB position and Santon can move to RB (if necessary only, and I don’t want this to be a serious argument again hahaha)

254 JackButler // Aug 3, 2012 at 6:57 PM

Under Sheppard Debuchy would already be in the squad, he would have cost us 10 million + and would now be on 100k a week and some would be happy even though we’d be heading straight to financial meltdown.
Ashley has shown that he knows what he’s doing, just wish he sold patience in the club shop

255 pizzicatochan // Aug 3, 2012 at 6:58 PM

Yea, looking forward to seeing Sammi playing more. Hopefully he can play as great as Luuk De Jong, and Sammi is our own product with a loyal heart like his brother.

256 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 3, 2012 at 6:59 PM

Anyone else think we should take Moussa Dembele from Fulham ?

——————————–Krul——————————

–Debuchy——Taylor———-Collocini——Santon–

——————————-Tiote——————————

——HBA—————–Cabaye———–Dembele——

—————–Cisse——————–Ba———————

I would also take Frei from them. He is gunna be a beast in a few years time

257 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:00 PM

Pizzi…Santon at RB? Have you gone mad…blah de blah

I agree. We seem to have lots of versatility at our disposal, which is great with such a young team. I really would like to see the young lads given a shot this season and if just fill the starting line up and bench with “established” players, they’ll never get their chance.

We may not win anything this season, but we’re building towards a very exciting and dare I say it, successful future

258 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:02 PM

Benjamin Corgnet’s still available.

259 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:03 PM

Big Pappa…Why haven’t you mentioned this guy before like?

JB….Too young for a Sheppard buy. Who was it we were linked to the other day? 30+ odd RB? That’s who we’d have at £10m+

260 JackButler // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:05 PM

Kets – I would like to send you my heat felt condolences on Scharner moving to Germany, I know how much he meant to you, but I hope that with time, your pain will ease and you can move on to see the positives that life has to offer

261 JackButler // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:06 PM

Ibiza – It was Carvallio I think from Madrid

262 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:11 PM

JB…That was the one. Now that had Newcastle of old written all over it!

I’m still available, if anyone is interested.

263 Beattie25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:16 PM

Is anyone else nervous about transfers? Squeaky bum time.

264 Beattie25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:18 PM

Kets

Seen as you have turned Scharner into a cult hero and now that his ship has sailed is there any other free transfers you can recommend?

265 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:18 PM

Beattie…Not nervous…Exhausted. Do you have an ETA yet? Been sitting round all day waiting mate.

266 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:19 PM

We’ve missed out big time.

267 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:20 PM

Kets, I really am glad that you’re on this blog and I’m not being sarcastic.

268 pizzicatochan // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:21 PM

Ibiza – The best Manure started with youngsters too – Beckham, Scholes, Gary and Phil Neville, our own Nicky Butt, Giggs (yes, even Giggs)… I think this tells us something. Building on youngsters with a few established ones is not a bad move at all.

269 pizzicatochan // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:22 PM

The last “mature” cult hero was Kuqi?

270 pizzicatochan // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:23 PM

and Gillespie was part of that Manure youngster group.

271 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Pizzi….No argument from me mate. Bring it on.

272 Beattie25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Ibiza

We have been discovered and I had to go code alpha. Debuchy has been ditched and his rescue abandoned.

We have had to change our attention to rescuing Tranquillo Barnetta. He was taken from his room in the Marriott hotel and stolen away to Germany.

I’ve spoken to his kidnappers and told them:

”I don’t know who you are. I don’t know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you Mike Ashley doesn’t have money. But what he does have are a very particular set of skills; skills he has acquired over a very long career. Skills that make him and me a nightmare for people like you. If you let Barnetta go now, that’ll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don’t, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you.”

273 JTOONJ // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Alright lads, when does my season ticket come? has anyone else got theirs. This time last year i had mine.

274 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:26 PM

Good old Gillespie. Loved that guy. Kuqi on the other hand….

275 MagpiesFlyHigh // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:27 PM

Beattie

Squeaky bum time was Victoria Pendleton winning Gold…
We’ve got another 28 days of this.

276 Beattie25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:28 PM

We could do very well with the youth but we still need regardless a FB, CM and a ST for me.

Filling those positions are the only way we can threaten now, this season and find success to build on.

We need to give the kids a winning mentality, engrain them with success and ensure that the arrogance that man ure had, that hunger to win, the fight to never lose is given to the youth or else it will be all wasted.

277 Wandering Geordie // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:29 PM

I said earlier on Lille are currently in negotiation with Lyon for Anthony Réveillèrealier their right back as Newcastle have now increased their bid for Debuchy

278 magpiebop // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:31 PM

Last years season ticket is this years season ticket, unless you move seats!

279 MagpiesFlyHigh // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:31 PM

Beattie

Could we really bring trough 3-4 really talented hungry youngsters in one season like SFA did ?

I reckon the guys brought in have been chosen very very carefully.

280 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:31 PM

Beattie…So true. If Barnetta has escaped after 2 years in Newcastle’s hotels we must change our plan.

What did they say in response? That speech was fit for a Hollywood movie mate, good work

281 Beattie25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:31 PM

Wandering

How did you come by this info?

282 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:31 PM

Is Beattie really Liam Neeson ?

283 MagpiesFlyHigh // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:31 PM

trough=through

otherwise they’ll all want £80k a week

284 Super Magpie // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:33 PM

Beattie
They’re making another Taken.

Also does anyone know if the den Haag game will ge televised tomorrow?

285 MagPieMan // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:33 PM

Season tickets will be sent out next week

286 JTOONJ // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:33 PM

Alright lads, when should my season ticket come? has anyone else got theirs. This time last year i had mine.

287 Ian Magpie // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:36 PM

Those of you that keep on having a go at Shepherd. I can’t remember hearing a peep out of anyone when we were beating Feyenoord and taking on the cream of Europe such as Barcelona, Inter and Junventus to name just a few! Where you shouting about spending millions then???????????? Er not! Ok i agree, it couldn’t go on like that but stop beiing so two faced cos at the time you loved it! Now give it a rest FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

288 Super Magpie // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:36 PM

Magpieman

Where did you find this out?
I’ve been wondering why its taking so long.

289 Beattie25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:36 PM

There making another taken?

Taken 2: The hunt for Debuchy!

290 Novocastrian66 // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:36 PM

Magpiebop. Everyone gets a new ticket this year.

291 magpiebop // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:38 PM

Cool!

292 MagpiesFlyHigh // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:38 PM

Ian

If he hadn’t sold to MA we would have surely gone the same way as Rangers…okay they won 9 in a row but look at them now.

293 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:38 PM

@ beattie

I’d watch it

294 Beattie25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:39 PM

Why is nobody else responding to this wandering fellow?

Is he legit?

295 Beattie25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:40 PM

Big Pappis

It’s a date

296 MagpiesFlyHigh // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:41 PM

Ian

Apologies m8, I’ve never put a positive post up for Ma before, don’t quite know what happened to me came over all faint, be alright after a lie down..must be the sheer anticipation of this transfer window

297 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:41 PM

Ian…As we learn and grow as human beings we are able to change opinions and view previous events in a different light. That doesn’t make us two faced at all. Just a bit more clued in than before.

We live in a different world now, times have moved on and so have we. FFS

298 MagpiesFlyHigh // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:43 PM

Ibiza

The voice of reason

299 Kyo // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:43 PM

By the way my friend who is an Ajax supporter in Holland says Van Der Wield is not a player we’d want to have. He disrupted the team atmosphere of both Ajax and the national team. Ajax are trying to get rid of him. Would be a HUGE mistake to get him over Debuchy.

300 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:44 PM

Beattie…Just waiting to see what his response to you is. Then we can judge and respond as needed

301 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:46 PM

Kyo..,.My friend who supports Newcastle thought we should buy Scharner…enough said

Only joking with you, I know very little about this player. I imagine Pardew and Carr know what the crack is, if we are in fact interested.

MFH…How did that happen?

302 magpiebop // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:48 PM

We’ll get Debuchy or we might get someone else or we make do wii what we’ve got. If we don’t sign anyone it’s because manager of the year Alan Pardew has seen enough of the younguns to think they’re ready to step up or the senior players we have can fill the roles. Personally I’m cool wii whatever happens and think we’ll have a better season than last.

303 Novocastrian66 // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:48 PM

Off subject. BBC Olympic coverage is rubbish. The two swimming commentators are the worst.
Adrian Moorhouse is like a school girl the way he giggles on.
CRAP.

304 RobertNufc25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:49 PM

Has Debuchy passed his medical yet?

305 Ian Magpie // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:50 PM

@Magpies fly high… Fair point mate and as i said it couldn’t continue like that but we were at the top under Shepherd and none of us know for sure what would have happend. I just get fed up with two faced fans who at the time would have had us spend treble than we did, only to hear them now critisize the man who gave them the success and memories.

306 spitfire_ // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:53 PM

RobertNufc25

Two times by now… couple more in the next few days.

307 MagpiesFlyHigh // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:54 PM

Novo

agree….except the cycling

308 magpiebop // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:54 PM

Shepard was no Sir John. Those years were special.

309 Magpies-till-d3ath // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:56 PM

Wandering- Spit out what you know, or even what you think you know. I’m sick of waiting, I want to know what’s going on and am willing to believe anyone now!

310 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 7:59 PM

Someone was asking earlier…

http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20120803/season-tickets-sent-out-next-week_2281670_2870694

311 Novocastrian66 // Aug 3, 2012 at 8:02 PM

MFH. Don’t know how that horse racing wife got the anchor gig for the swimming either. I know nowt about swimming other than it involves water, but she knows less.

312 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 3, 2012 at 8:03 PM

Speaking of the Olympics, how can a 15 year old girl beat fully grown women ?

313 magpiebop // Aug 3, 2012 at 8:06 PM

GB lasses are up against it.

314 RobertNufc25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 8:07 PM

Think Freddy Shepherd is one of the investors in Rangers now.Not 100% sure like.

I certainly enjoyed them days too.

315 JackButler // Aug 3, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Ian Magpie – the reason most people,myself included slate Sheppard is that we were unaware of the financial situation within the club,yeah we had good time’s with him at the helm, but we could have very easily become a bigger disaster then Leed’s and Portsmouth combined

316 magpiebop // Aug 3, 2012 at 8:08 PM

I wish Freddie all the best at Rangers if he is involved.

317 rich_toonfan // Aug 3, 2012 at 8:10 PM

Big pappa

Just an exceptional talent, obviously won’t be a typical 15 year old. Will be bigger than normal their age and just faster.

Always get new people coming through in sports like that. You don’t new experience, you just need to be fast so age isn’t as important as some more tactical sports

318 MagpiesFlyHigh // Aug 3, 2012 at 8:13 PM

Novo

Yeh she jinxed our medal hopes

Gers fans are not keen on the GREEN – either the hooped players or their own new ‘owner’ or asset stripper as many fear.

319 RobertNufc25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 8:16 PM

It was rumoured Shepherd was involved like.

320 MagpiesFlyHigh // Aug 3, 2012 at 8:16 PM

UNCONFIRMED RUMOUR (or just plain lie)

03 Aug 2012 13:26:39
Newcastle have had a bid accepted for Sochaux right back, Sebastian Corchia.

321 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 3, 2012 at 8:17 PM

@ Rich

Yeah I suppose. It just strange considering your body and muscles don’t stop growing till you are 21.

322 JackButler // Aug 3, 2012 at 8:18 PM

From Douglas

“I think I will stay here for another year. I don’t know what is happening.

“I haven’t spoken to anyone. I am very happy here, basically I want to stay another year. I will focus on FC Twente. Nobody knows anything about Newcastle United.

“I have not heard anything. The club haven’t either.”

323 Novocastrian66 // Aug 3, 2012 at 8:19 PM

Watching the athletics now. Anyone know Ross Murray?

324 RobertNufc25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 8:20 PM

Dont think Rangers would ever be in that situation if they were a premier league club.

With the tv money in England like.

325 Tsunki // Aug 3, 2012 at 8:20 PM

transfer sage had his pencil sharpened then? i did a ‘find’ and his monicker doesn’t show up. funny that I was certain he was right.

326 MagPieMan // Aug 3, 2012 at 8:21 PM

God, I would love it if we attempted to sign Nuri Sahin. Great talent at Dortmund and was praised as a future star. Got injured and then moved to Madrid where he was injured again and barely played. Has been told he doesn’t have a future at Madrid and could be available for less than £10 million. Pardew said we are always looking for good value for money, well this guy certainly is that a that prise.

He’s likely on big wages so we probably won’t even try to sign him, but it’s fun to make believe.

327 Wandering Geordie // Aug 3, 2012 at 8:25 PM

beattie 25 I am ex pat living in lima Peru. Got info from a Yank who works for Reuters here

328 darrenfletcher88 // Aug 3, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Magpiesflyhigh, wheres that crap from???

329 magpie6699 // Aug 3, 2012 at 8:34 PM

Will the USA coach come out and describe HIS 15 year old swimmer’s improved performance as “unbelievable and disturbing” like he described the 16 year old Chinese swimmer?
Hypocrites/bad losers/ double standards / sour grapes
(delete as appropriate)

330 Tsunki // Aug 3, 2012 at 8:35 PM

Wandering Geordie – not wanting to pour chilled water on your ‘lead’ but as the debuchy story has to be one of the most protracted sagas involving a top-flight international and a top PL side, how come Reuters aren’t fussed about breaking your news and instead only have a link to a skysports page?

331 rich_toonfan // Aug 3, 2012 at 8:36 PM

@big pappa

True bit there are always exceptions to everything.

There was that Chinese swimmer who is 16 who has two golds and swam her last 50m faster than men.

And really toug gymnasts. You always get some people who don’t fit the typical pattern.

But back to nufc. Not sure if our hard balling in transfers is helping. I’m all for not spending 20million on a player but sometimes you have to pay the market value.

Then again of its true Lille agreed a fee then changed it I can see why the club won’t bow to their demands.

332 rich_toonfan // Aug 3, 2012 at 8:39 PM

That American coach or administrator was a disgrace.

Records get beaten often and surprisingly huge improvements are not uncommon. Look at bolt for example.

Some people just like to try and ruin others achievements.

333 darrenfletcher88 // Aug 3, 2012 at 8:40 PM

We haven’t got a clue about the dubuchy deal!!! Am sick of people I no this about the deal,no one has a clue about it.simple as that

334 MagpiesFlyHigh // Aug 3, 2012 at 8:42 PM

DF

Newcastle United Rumours

also claims Fergy on way to Derby on loan…

335 jesperfuglsang // Aug 3, 2012 at 8:45 PM

Did we sign Debuchy yet?

…I shiped earlier today a giftbasket to Seydoux with delicious mix nuts and leguminous fruits!

I hope that will soften him up He just have to be careful, you know what they say, you are what you eat lol

336 MagpiesFlyHigh // Aug 3, 2012 at 8:45 PM

Rich..

Aye disgrace that Yank coach said about the wee Chinese girl especially after what their 15 year old did to Rebecca Adlington

337 Novocastrian66 // Aug 3, 2012 at 8:45 PM

Swimming the last 50m faster than the bloke who won the mens equivalent race is a bit out of the ordinary.

338 Wandering Geordie // Aug 3, 2012 at 8:51 PM

@Tsunki

Was on my lunch here amongst ex pats and media types.As a rule I dont do the rumour thing as I see it on a daily basis on the blog.I took the rumour from him with a pinch of salt but I have no reason to doubt him.He was speaking to a group of us and he did not know I was a Nufc fan…If its true its true..If not then …the Yank is a liar..well its 14 50 here back to the grind..

339 AMEOBI // Aug 3, 2012 at 8:52 PM

Anyone let me know on Debuchy? Any further? I did say by 3pm, please don’t say I’m wrong!

340 jayphoto // Aug 3, 2012 at 8:56 PM

Just a note, I’ve been on the press side of things a few times (rarely Newcastle based unfortunately) and I will be my life that Mark Douglas and Lee Ryder know far more than they can print! Newcastle united heavily control what news gets printed, since Llambias came in they are well known for spoon feeding press red herrings as well as banning from club press conferences journos and publications that print stories they don’t want out! This isn’t as much a problem for national press, but north east publications sell papers by having exclusives at NUFC! This is probably why we consistently sign players out of the blue, because of the tight control of the toon press office! For me, the fact that debuchy is being talked about so much suggests to me its rubbish! Newcastle also make any agents/clubs dealing with them sign confidentiality agreements before opening negotiations, as seen when we signed cisse from freiburg who said nothing on the deal until it was done despite the fact they could have started a bidding war!

341 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 3, 2012 at 8:58 PM

Incomings:

Debuchy – £6.5m
Douglas – £5m
Anita – £6.5m
Remy – £11m
Konote – £1.5m

Total spend = £30.5m

342 Novocastrian66 // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:04 PM

Kets, there is no way we’ll spend £30m. I think we’ll see 1 perhaps 2 more signings and I think I’m being optimistic.

343 magpie6699 // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:04 PM

Novo66 – so is improving your time by 20 seconds in less than a year!

344 darrenfletcher88 // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:05 PM

Ketsbaia I’ll give u my life savings if that comes true,

345 spitfire_ // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:06 PM

Ketsbaia9, stop with your misguided wishes… but if you go with that just change your nickname to Fumaca or Luque or some like that. Thank you.

346 jayphoto // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Fully believe we’ll sign a right back, centre back, centre mid and striker! Don’t think we’ll pay over 8m for anyone and dnt think wel go over 6m for anyone but a striker! Wel probably end up with a 15m ish net spend, 20m max and 4 players we didn’t expect, 3 players probably we’ve not even heard of or seen! Think Gosling will step up to be guthries replacement and amalfitano will be goslings as 4th choice midfield! Big season for gosling, Everton fans where gutted when he left, be good to see him come good!

347 Novocastrian66 // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:14 PM

Magpie6699. According to Ian Thorpe it is not unusual for young swimmers to chop massive chunks off their times.
I’m not trying to imply the Chinese lass cheated in any way but her achievement is out of the ordinary simply because she swam the last 50 faster than the male winner of the same event.
He might have swam a slow last 50, I don’t know.

348 AMEOBI // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:14 PM

Incomings:

Debuchy – £6.5m
Douglas – £5m
Anita – £6.5m
Remy – £11m
Konote – £1.5m

Total spend = £30.5m

Easy done

349 RobertNufc25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:18 PM

Imagine we signed nobody else.Haha

The blog would probably burst into flames…

350 breno95 // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:21 PM

I am in agreement with the comments posted by jayphoto. Is there anyone on here who can catergorically say that NUFC are bidding for Debuchy? The link came about via his friendship with Cabaye and the papers. The papers have, in the last few weeks, had us agreeing a fee then making an improved bid. The same situation happened with Douglas. we had agreed a 5 million fee and then 2 weeks later we were reported to have gone in with a first bid of 3.25million.
Has anyone at the club actually confirmed negotiations are taking place for Debuchy, Douglas, Anita etc.? I have never heard AP name one single player except for him to say he his hoping to have one or two through the door during the window. Could just be work is being done and whoever is signed will be someone who has never even been mentioned.
Just a thought and going with jayphotos views.

351 Dannyo // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:21 PM

@jayphoto
How can u say Debuchy is rubbish when u have quotes from Debuchy, Lille president and Lille coach on the matter?
Also, french paper has been picking thinks up faster than what Lee and Douglas have concerning Debuchy.

352 Novocastrian66 // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:24 PM

Ameobi. What you on about? That’s The same as Kets’ post.

353 MagpiesFlyHigh // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:25 PM

£30m + spend ?

and we’re quibbling with Lille over £750,000 ?

In your dreams

354 Rotonda heights // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:25 PM

magpies fly high would love that to be true as Corchia is the one I think we should have gone after in the first place.

355 MagpiesFlyHigh // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:29 PM

Rotonda

I’ve read his full biog and he deffo fits our profile.
That’s the trouble with Carr, there’s always somebody under the radar.
Only a rumour btw

356 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:30 PM

@ Breno

Are you for real ?. There are quotes from Lille’s chairman saying our bid is not enough, therefore we have made an offer

357 AMEOBI // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:33 PM

Yes I agree with Kets

358 Novocastrian66 // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:37 PM

Ameobi. Oh.

359 breno95 // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:40 PM

Big Pappa

Quotes are reported to be made by alot of people in football. For example only 2 weeks the fenway group quoted on their web site that Liverpool had signed Clint Dempsey but that was a load of shite. There will be alot of other so called BS quotes and a the Lille chap could/can say anything to achieve the best result for his club.
I would have thought that most people posting on here would no better than to believe everything that is reported/quoted as in the majority of cases it’s all BS my good man.

360 Zebras4Life // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:41 PM

£30M? Kets are smoking rock?
We have not even spent £800K yet.
These kids and their laughable fantasies!

361 pizzicatochan // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:43 PM

According to Facebook, Gateshead just beated the Scums by 4-3.

362 eaststandgeordie1982 // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:44 PM

Off to see the samba boys tha morra

363 toonthompson // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:47 PM

according to transfer matket .com ben arfa and debuchy have the same agent

364 MagpiesFlyHigh // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:50 PM

blog killer

365 AMEOBI // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:56 PM

Playing FM12, who’s good to sign who’s cheap and will sign for newcastle on first season? Anyone?

366 jayphoto // Aug 3, 2012 at 9:59 PM

@dannyo – that’s my point, Newcastle are well known to make clubs sign confidentiality agreements, if we were in discussions surely lilles manager wouldn’t have been able to comment….. Like I said, look at freiburg when we signed cisse…. No1 said a thing, same with inter and santon

367 MagpiesFlyHigh // Aug 3, 2012 at 10:04 PM

jayphoto

I think there is selective leaking coming from Lille, but that most of our other targets are well beneath the radar. At least I hope so…

otherwise we’re f****d

368 Beattie25 // Aug 3, 2012 at 10:04 PM

@ Ameobi

Emile Heskey

369 GeordieToon89 // Aug 3, 2012 at 10:04 PM

According to the best ITK on Twitter, WAIT FOR IT….
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Swansea want Obertan for £2.5million

A reckon we should say we’ll give you £5million plus Obertan for Sinclair

370 rainrix // Aug 3, 2012 at 10:05 PM

Where for art thou transfer sage?! We were promised a medical and what do we get? Another boring day in the debuchy saga. Still i was actually kinda hoping there was a medical today to give us something else to talk about. Alas false hope!

371 welshy14 // Aug 3, 2012 at 10:05 PM

@ ameobi

A never post but Carlos fierro is a goal machine and very young

372 Dannyo // Aug 3, 2012 at 10:07 PM

@jayphoto
Yes, i realise that, but even Pardew has hinted at it and Cabaye has been outspoken about it.
It’s unusual, but it’s far from impossible.
DL has no power over any part of the Lille system whatsoever.
I don’t think Debuchy is smokes and mirrors, i think the deal is very real.

373 north_country_boy // Aug 3, 2012 at 10:13 PM

GeordieTOON beat me to it…think Sinclair would be a good signing…English, fast, skilful, can play left side of front 3 and scores goals…think he’d be looking to step up from Swansea now

374 tarie4 // Aug 3, 2012 at 10:13 PM

Novocastrian66

Yes, its out if the ordinary, but its something U keep to urself, U dnt talk about it in public (Innocent till proven guilty?) i mean he is American, the champions of democracy
What happens if she’s takes a drug test and is innocent? Like that south African runner? I met her at the tym, and the whole issue affected her badly.
there is always someone better, bolt is the fastest man, in four years time another runner will come and smash his record.
its life

375 AMEOBI // Aug 3, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Cheers beatie lol very helpful!

Welshy sounds good, cheers mate

376 welshy14 // Aug 3, 2012 at 10:18 PM

You can sell him to man u for twenty mill in a few years but you won’t want to ha

377 MagpiesFlyHigh // Aug 3, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Novo Tarie

Now has any coach accused the 15yr old Yank who knocked chunks off her own PB to win the 800m of being a drug cheat…. sauce for geese

378 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 10:33 PM

Evening Gents. I’d ask if there was anything new going on, but I think I may know the answer

Seems calm enough on here tonight, that makes me slightly nervous.

379 Tsunki // Aug 3, 2012 at 10:36 PM

Lets all go Ketsy –

Nzogbia – £12m
Heskey – £7m
Scharner – £15m

Total spend – £27.50.

380 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 10:38 PM

Lets get Ketsy in here, whoa, it’s getting Ketsy in Here – to the tune of Black eyed peas, Let’s get retarded.

381 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 10:41 PM

Joking Aside. They would be three great additions to the team. Good job Tsunki. An A for effort and a gold star. Top of the class.

382 Tsunki // Aug 3, 2012 at 10:41 PM

Ibiza – Calm? CALM??? What in the hell are you implying?

You know what you f______ kn___ why not get your a___ f____ with a watermelon while ya ma sh____ the f_____ and your bent ___wit brothers dog gives you a_______ and ____ every sunday for a year ya f______ kn___head??????????

Apart from that nothing doing, all quiet.

383 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Oh mad libs…cheers Tsunki…you cock x

384 Tsunki // Aug 3, 2012 at 10:47 PM

Awwww sweetie you DO care x

385 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 10:49 PM

You know I do precious

386 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 3, 2012 at 10:51 PM

Or…just call it a night

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