Newcastle To Turn To Other Targets After Debuchy Breakdown?


Rudi Garcia, the Lille manager has told French International right back Mathieu Debuchy that any move to Newcastle is off, and therefore he has to start working hard for Lille and prepare for the new season in France.

Mathieu Debuchy – no deal – time to move on

But there’s no doubt that Mathieu will not be happy, in fact he will be very unhappy there has been no agreement reached between Lille and Newcastle on the transfer fee, after all this time, and it may be time to move on.

Mathieu is an excellent professional, and he will probably do that, but we think the next few days could also be crucial, with it hard to believe that Newcastle will now walk away from the deal, but that’s what they’ve done in the past.

This is what Lille coach  Rudi Garcia has said today:

“A coach always prefers to have the best players and Mathieu Debuchy is one of the best full-backs in France, if not Europe.”

“He is disappointed. He was hoping to leave. It is a normal reaction. Now he has to work hard for Lille and the new season.”

“Mathieu is a responsible boy, this is one of the oddities of the transfer season.”

It’s a great question as to what Newcastle will do now, and we’d be very surprised if they don’t make at least one more effort to get Mathieu to Tyneside, and one reason for that is one of our very best players, Yohan Cabaye, is not going to be a happy man.

Yohan had been hoping the Newcastle hierarchy could do the deal, and if he believes what’s been  in the papers, Newcastle have been more than  a little thrifty in trying to get the French International to Tyneside.

And it still seems that Newcastle are not far off the asking price of Lille, and personal terms were already agreed last week with the player.

If Newcastle do decide to go after other targets, the right backs Newcastle have been linked with this summer include FC Twente right-back Roberto Rosales, Ajax Dutch International Gregory van der Wiel, and we were linked again only last week with PSV’s Erik Pieters.

But there’s no telling whether Newcastle will meet the asking prices of these players either.

And of course one young target – Crystal Palace 21 year right-back, Nathaniel Clyne –  has already moved to Southampton.

It’s surprising  Newcastle have no senior players through the door yet, and we’re into August.

What do you think?

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72 comments so far

  • tequilamag

    Aug 3, 2012 at 8:43 AM

    Comment #1

    The longer we wait to sign a full back the less time there is to sell Simpson.

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  • Ian Toon

    Aug 3, 2012 at 8:44 AM

    Comment #2

    Pardew will not want to settle for second best. Debuchy , Cabaye and Ben Arfa will gel from the off. Keep the faith- I wonder what shirt number Debuchy will be.? Have a good day.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 3, 2012 at 8:46 AM

    Comment #3

    Ian…Love it, skip past the actually signing saga and go to shirt numbers. Sounds a lot less stressful 🙂

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  • Hatem's better than Messi

    Aug 3, 2012 at 8:47 AM

    Comment #4

    There’s no point in having great scouts if the board can’t get the deals done.

    Ashley and Llambias are playing a game of macho-monopoly when they bid for our targets. It must put clubs off dealing with us.

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  • Ketsbaia9

    Aug 3, 2012 at 8:49 AM

    Comment #5

    So it looks like we’ll make further bids for Cissokho, Anita, Douglas and Remy. Hopefully we’ll go for Konote as he’s valued at £1.5m.

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  • dmac

    Aug 3, 2012 at 8:49 AM

    Comment #6

    God some right bloody moaners on here recently.

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  • tequilamag

    Aug 3, 2012 at 8:51 AM

    Comment #7

    Kets . Cant see us buying 4or 5 players. Max 3 in and poss Simpson out.

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  • davybtoon

    Aug 3, 2012 at 8:51 AM

    Comment #8

    Can see a double deal for Anita n van der Weil happening

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 3, 2012 at 8:52 AM

    Comment #9

    Morning Kets, Is that an assumption or has it been reported? Is Konote really olny valued at that? He’s the Senegalese striker, right?

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  • davybtoon

    Aug 3, 2012 at 8:52 AM

    Comment #10

    The neggers will b out in force

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  • Toon73

    Aug 3, 2012 at 8:53 AM

    Comment #11

    Transfer Sage is……..?

    Fill in the blanks.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 3, 2012 at 8:53 AM

    Comment #12

    Davy…..It wouldn’t be summer without people calling for the heads of the board.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 3, 2012 at 8:53 AM

    Comment #13

    Toon73…Glorious?

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  • tequilamag

    Aug 3, 2012 at 8:54 AM

    Comment #14

    Whatever happened to Angryman ? Now that man was king of the neggars

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  • TorqToon

    Aug 3, 2012 at 8:55 AM

    Comment #15

    Not sure if I’m the only one who thinks we are doing the right thing with regards Debuchy. I, as many of you, would’ve loved the lad at the toon, but GC when he scouts a player, applies a top value to that player. If clubs try to force our hand into paying above what his perceived value is, we will walk away. We may well go back in for debuchy at a later date, we may not! But whats clear to the footballing world is, we WON’T be like other clubs (Chelski/Liverfool) and pay silly money for our targets. Maybe in the long run this will benefit us, as clubs will learn that they can’t fleece us for MA’s millions!

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  • toon1707

    Aug 3, 2012 at 8:55 AM

    Comment #16

    I still think we will get debuchy why would lille keep a player they know wants to leave this is just a tactic to try to force us in to meeting thee asking price. If however this deal is dead van de weil looks a good young player who is only going to get better

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  • superkrul

    Aug 3, 2012 at 8:55 AM

    Comment #17

    Van Der weil will do move on get van Der wiel and Anita soon and as for Remy ad love to see him here but nah we won’t get him coz we will offer no more than 13mill when marseille want 18 so move on from him 2

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  • ginkoh

    Aug 3, 2012 at 8:57 AM

    Comment #18

    If possible I still want Simpson sign new contract with us then sign someone to make competition.

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  • Ketsbaia9

    Aug 3, 2012 at 9:00 AM

    Comment #19

    We’ve made bids for Douglas, Anita, Debuchy and De Jong. Hopefully we’ll sign 4 players at least. We need to get rid of Simpson asap.

    £1.5m for Konote has been reported in a newspaper. We’ll probably end up bidding £11m for N’Zogbia on deadline day.

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  • davo32

    Aug 3, 2012 at 9:01 AM

    Comment #20

    Rondon has said hes now willing to leave Malaga (SSN) and reportedly valued at £10mil. Might be worth a punt if we cant get Remy or AC.

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  • Papiss9

    Aug 3, 2012 at 9:01 AM

    Comment #21

    Danny Simpson is not my favouriteplayer, but I think he does a good job and maybe he gets even better this season.

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  • Scottiedog

    Aug 3, 2012 at 9:01 AM

    Comment #22

    Simpson must sign a new deal to keep cohesion in our defence!! Also I think we should walk away from Debuchy and sign van der wiel. Lets not try and have a completely french squad ffs.

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  • TorqToon

    Aug 3, 2012 at 9:02 AM

    Comment #23

    Van dee wiel – Don’t know much about this lad. How does he compare to Debuchy?

    Also where is Transfer Sage?! Medical pencilled in for today he said?! Carroll?? Lol

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  • iggystinger

    Aug 3, 2012 at 9:02 AM

    Comment #24

    To be honest i would prefer van der wiel hes young and i think he could be better than debuchy,plus the fact we can get him a cheap ass price as hes in the last year of his contract

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  • jesperfuglsang

    Aug 3, 2012 at 9:02 AM

    Comment #25

    It is hard to see why any move for the above should run any smoother; they all want more than they are bargain for.

    Clubs in Holland go to contries such as Denmark and Sweden and screw them over for their top players but seem to think it is unfair when other clubs don’t want to pay over the top for their players.

    It is the silly thing about football isn’t it B-)

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  • davybtoon

    Aug 3, 2012 at 9:02 AM

    Comment #26

    Van der Weil will more than do if 4 month ago u said debuchy or van der Weil everyone would of said van der Weil why bcoz most ppl had heard of him over debuchy n most ppl had seen him play

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  • tequilamag

    Aug 3, 2012 at 9:03 AM

    Comment #27

    11 mill for the Zog. Good one Kets.

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  • Tsunki

    Aug 3, 2012 at 9:04 AM

    Comment #28

    Kets we dont need to get rid of simpson asap as we would have no experienced cover if and when we do get a new rb. I don’t rate him top but leave the poor lad alone for a minute.

    It is D-Day for Transfer Sage isn’t it. But if he pulls this one out of his *ss then he will indeed be a Sage of the highest order. You have your work cut out Tranny!

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 3, 2012 at 9:04 AM

    Comment #29

    Ketsbaia….£11m for N’Zogbia? Let’s hope not 🙂

    Didn’t really think Konote was a great idea, being another African player who would likely leave at some point for ACON, but could be a steal at £1.5m.

    I would of thought, if we can get good deals on the following positions, then my “may” sign up to 4 players. Positions being

    CB, FB, CM and ST.

    I don’t think the board are as desperate for these arrivals as the fans mind, so wont pay what them deem to be over the odds. Just my opinion anyway.

    Toon73….In The Know

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  • BigKirky

    Aug 3, 2012 at 9:04 AM

    Comment #30

    It’s frustrating that the deal hasn’t gone through, but if we buckle now and pay more, it sets a precedent telling other clubs that we’ll give in eventually, which can’t be good for future bargaining power.

    If Debuchy really wants to come and we won’t budge on out highest offer, he’s going to have to put a transfer request in and be a bit more forceful to their president saying he’s unhappy. It’s not the best solution, but if they won’t accept less, then something has to be done. Debuchy must know that we’ll look elsewhere if not.

    Pete Graves tweeted that he thinks the deal the deal isn’t dead and we were supremely confident we had our man. It’s Lille just playing hardball, which we’re having a taste of our own medicine with, which is fair enough.

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  • Papiss9

    Aug 3, 2012 at 9:04 AM

    Comment #31

    I have seen a lot of games with Ajax. Van der Wiel play a very attackminded style of play. Good on the ball and has pace. He would offer a lot when we are attacking. Dont think its much diffrence between him and Debuchy in terms of quality

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  • Sholadona

    Aug 3, 2012 at 9:04 AM

    Comment #32

    Billy/Bob/Ted must be desperate for bad news so they can annoy everyone again. It is the summer holidays now after all

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  • Tsunki

    Aug 3, 2012 at 9:05 AM

    Comment #33

    Actually Ibiza I thought kets Nsomnia dig was funny. And eerily possible 🙁

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  • davybtoon

    Aug 3, 2012 at 9:06 AM

    Comment #34

    Van der Weil only 23 similar in style to debuchy loves to get forward been playing international n champs league for last 4 seasons n only around 5mil sign him up

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  • Hatem's better than Messi

    Aug 3, 2012 at 9:07 AM

    Comment #35

    Van Der wiel and Anita look to be good players.

    Remy has the look of NUFC signings from the past.
    His goals to games ratio isn’t brilliant, possibly overrated and overpriced. 13M for another Luque?

    There are a few questions about him – does he want to come to the NE of England? Will he handle the EPL?
    A 13M+ gamble for me.

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  • Sholadona

    Aug 3, 2012 at 9:08 AM

    Comment #36

    @Tsunki Ia’m guessing he’ll say the medical was penned in but due to Lille rejecting the offer it was cancelled.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 3, 2012 at 9:08 AM

    Comment #37

    Tsunki…Agreed…hence the I hope not!

    Tranny Sage 🙂 Big day indeed.

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  • Papiss9

    Aug 3, 2012 at 9:08 AM

    Comment #38

    davy

    Is VdW available for only 5?

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  • Tsunki

    Aug 3, 2012 at 9:08 AM

    Comment #39

    Actually I think it will serve as closure lets move on now. Why aren’t we aiming to get more Argentinian players – Colo and Jonas I think are contenders for the two most loyal and hard working players at the club.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 3, 2012 at 9:09 AM

    Comment #40

    Sholadona…Well don’t help him out with ideas 🙂

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