West Ham Want Answer – It’s Make Up Your Mind Time For Carroll


News late last night that West Ham United are telling Andy Carroll it’s make up your mind time, and they want an answer from big Andy, because if Carroll doesn’t want to go to Upton Park, the Hammers need time to go after another striker, and there’s only just over four weeks left in the transfer window.

Andy Carroll – make up your mind time

Liverpool are trying to make a deal to get Carroll out on loan and then have the option of a permanent sale next season, and West Ham have easily outbid Newcastle for the 23 year-old Geordie striker, and had their bid of £2M for the loan deal, and £17M for the option of a permanent transfer next May, accepted by the Merseyside club.

But Carroll has said he only wants to leave Liverpool to go back to his home town club, Newcastle, but this move by West Ham puts Andy in an awkward position.

There’s no guarantee that Newcasle will raise their £13M bid to take Andy on loan, with an option to make the move permanent in May.

And Andy will have seen that Newcastle are stubborn and unwilling to budge in the Mathieu Debuchy deal, even though Mathieu is Newcastle’s number one target, and the Tyneside club are less than £1.5M away from Lille’s valuation of the player, who turned 27 earlier this week.

However, we’re sure the negotiations are not yet over on the Debuchy deal, and the stance taken by the Lille President could be the move that gets an agreement between Newcastle and Lille sorted out, or between Lille and another club.

The 23 year-old England international striker did not have a good first full season at Liverpool, but the side hardly played to Andy’s strengths, and there’s every reason to think that Brendan Rodgers will have Liverpool play with the ball on the ground, as he did when manager at Swansea.

On the positive side for Newcastle, they  can offer Carroll Europa League football in the coming season, and the club seems on it’s way back to becoming a force in the Premier League again, and it seems that Andy is now keen to be a part of that.

But that’s not the problem – the problem is that Newcastle will hardly raise the fee they have already bid for the Gateshead lad, and if he turns down West Ham, that could leave him high and dry come September.

It’s a good move by West Ham on their part, to request an answer from the big lad, so they are not exposed in this transfer market, in their search to bring in another striker to Upton Park.

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61 comments so far

  • kevymartins

    Aug 3, 2012 at 12:10 AM

    Comment #1

    Ok please every one stop the nonsense .Go watch the cheik tiote goal oon youtube and come back a happy man

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  • nufc786

    Aug 3, 2012 at 12:10 AM

    Comment #2

    if andy would really want to come home then he would sit tight and wait bu i dont know whats on the books for nufc especially about strikers…….

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  • kevymartins

    Aug 3, 2012 at 12:17 AM

    Comment #4

    @nufc sometimes I forget how good hatem is .The skill on that man is just unbelievabale

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  • ilovetoon8788

    Aug 3, 2012 at 12:18 AM

    Comment #5

    So no debuschy then. I love the way our Window is going. And we have less than 30 days left. Great.

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  • nufc786

    Aug 3, 2012 at 12:21 AM

    Comment #6

    kevymartins
    he has tht magic in his boots…….. his dribbling against blackburn was the closest thing to messi’s

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  • nufc786

    Aug 3, 2012 at 12:23 AM

    Comment #7

    ilovetoon8788
    i hope evryone stays in one piece on here…… goes mental at times……. but hopefully we will get what we players we need for the upcoming season wether debuchy is there or not……

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  • jayphoto

    Aug 3, 2012 at 12:27 AM

    Comment #8

    Just gotta trust the NUFC hierarchy! Last season we missed out on Gervinho, Erdinc and Gameiro and ended up with our 4th choice striker in the end which turned out to be Papiss Cisse! All 3 strikers who turned us down (asides from gervinho who’s deal pardew pulled out of) went on to have horrific seasons! If the last few seasons are anything to go by, the fact this debuchy deal is being played out in the public eye suggests he’s not our #1 target…sometimes think we make public bids to detract from actual targets!

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  • jayphoto

    Aug 3, 2012 at 12:28 AM

    Comment #10

    missed it earlier….but what’s everyone got against Ruddy? Never had issue with him or his posts!

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  • nufc786

    Aug 3, 2012 at 12:31 AM

    Comment #11

    neither have i….. ppl just came on here and just starting against him… for some reason the odd one or two threats aswell…..

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  • jayphoto

    Aug 3, 2012 at 12:32 AM

    Comment #12

    Also, to anyone questioning why mike Ashley is prepared to shell out big for Carroll but not debuchy needs to remember, Carroll was England #9 at the euros and did well! He’s a geordie, if he banged in 20 goals next season and keeps his England place the commercial revenue will be worth a fortune, your not going to get that from a right back!

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  • kevymartins

    Aug 3, 2012 at 12:32 AM

    Comment #13

    @jay I could’nt even have been botherd to read what they were fighting over

    although i used to have something against ruddy i came to learn there is actully nothing wrong with the guy and just ignor people rather than be a naughty boy

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  • nufc786

    Aug 3, 2012 at 12:32 AM

    Comment #14

    so debuchy could be a smokescreen????

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  • nufc786

    Aug 3, 2012 at 12:34 AM

    Comment #15

    if you dont like it dont read it……. thts the way kevy…

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  • davybtoon

    Aug 3, 2012 at 12:41 AM

    Comment #16

    Typical over reaction from our ffs we will get the players we need in chill out you moaning bar stewards

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  • RobertNufc25

    Aug 3, 2012 at 12:49 AM

    Comment #17

    Carrolls worth nowhere near 20 million.

    He was a beast for 6 months in the premiership with us like.

    But He’s done nowt from it.
    In my humble opinion.

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  • Kc-Toon

    Aug 3, 2012 at 12:53 AM

    Comment #18

    Petebourogh have turned down an offer from an unnamed club for paul taylor, If were not looking at this lad, then we should be

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJu2b38AdII

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  • Brutooon

    Aug 3, 2012 at 12:54 AM

    Comment #19

    why we dont need andy caroll:

    1) we got cisse and demba ba which is BETTER than him.

    2) was given the no 9 shirt and turn back on us to go to liverFOOOL

    3) remember his smile when did the medical for liverFOOOL

    4) Andy Carroll was NEVER in a top 6 team (either for liverfool or for us)

    5) the reason most fan want him is because he is a Geordie.

    6) he style of play doesnt suit us.

    7) The reason he play well with us before is because Nolan is supporting him plus long ball from Barton and Enrique. (even the best of them only gave us no 10 spot)

    8) we got SHOLA AMEOBI !!!!!!!!

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  • Novocastrian66

    Aug 3, 2012 at 1:22 AM

    Comment #20

    Bru. Good grief. We cannot go through the season relying on Ba & Cisse. Shola isn’t good enough. We need more firepower. AC is an excellent CF. He would be an asset to our club. Are there better / cheaper options? Perhaps, I would not turn my nose up at Andy Carroll though.

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  • nufc90

    Aug 3, 2012 at 1:29 AM

    Comment #21

    Reading through some comments on the log. Some people need to chill the out. As hard as it is be calm and patient. We’ll get our targets eventually. How often do we sign the players we’re heavily linked to? We were ‘nailed’ on for gervinho last year and look how that turned out. Same with gameiro/ erding. We’ll sign players and be fine, only the club know. If we sign no one by September then worry just chill for now we haven’t lost any blue chip players

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  • RonVanDam

    Aug 3, 2012 at 2:34 AM

    Comment #22

    Do you think we will sign AC when we couldnt get Debuecy through the door?……Next please. Im really disappointed in our transfer activity in this window. Upside is we signed some good young talents.

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  • archaeomag

    Aug 3, 2012 at 2:42 AM

    Comment #23

    As I pointed out earlier; when it was sold Andy Carrolls brain, as a proportion of his fee [@1.5kgs /78kgs], was worth £673,000, but after a year with King Kenny its value has declined to an estimated £385,000 . . . .

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  • magpiebop

    Aug 3, 2012 at 3:24 AM

    Comment #24

    Debuchy…wouldn’t pay over £6m for him and neither will anyone else unless they’re stupid!

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  • ginkoh

    Aug 3, 2012 at 4:37 AM

    Comment #25

    I want go to vacation to some island for weeks and come back to see news we sign someone.

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  • arctoa

    Aug 3, 2012 at 4:49 AM

    Comment #26

    I’m not overly concerned. The entire window has been slow, only Chelsea’s really shown their hand early.

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  • ~Debuchery on a Dreamboat~

    Aug 3, 2012 at 5:35 AM

    Comment #27

    Look. If we don’t get Debuchy, we go after another talented RB. Van Der Wiel or Rosales for example, two other Rightbacks we have been linked with or even someone we haven’t been linked with yet.

    Start Panicking when there’ a week left and no progress, (or if we sign Andy Carroll) For now, sit down, strap up and enjoy the turbulent ride towards transfer deadline day.

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  • ~Debuchery on a Dreamboat~

    Aug 3, 2012 at 5:37 AM

    Comment #28

    @Brutoon,

    Completely agree.

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  • Toon73

    Aug 3, 2012 at 6:11 AM

    Comment #29

    Nailed on for Gameiro, Pieters, and Toivenen

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  • Toon73

    Aug 3, 2012 at 6:20 AM

    Comment #30

    that should be Anita, not Gameiro

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  • ash1001

    Aug 3, 2012 at 6:30 AM

    Comment #31

    Starting to worry just a bit now, in the big arena of transfers it looks like we are penny pinching again, 2 weeks away from the start of the season and we are arguing over coppers for Debuchy, and AC does not know whether he is coming or staying were he is.
    But at the bottom of it all we need players in and we need them in now, we play in Black and White so lets be the same with our targets, its Yes or No time.
    A little after thought of concern its called the African Nations Cup and at the same time we hopefully will be battling it out for a good league position, never mind fighting on 2 or 3 cup fronts.

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  • redondo77

    Aug 3, 2012 at 6:42 AM

    Comment #32

    still have 28 days left and there is always january window.
    if we submit to liverpool and lille’s demmands, then other clubs will follow them asking crazy money for every players NUFC wants.

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  • redondo77

    Aug 3, 2012 at 6:44 AM

    Comment #33

    we will get 2 or 3 players in before this window closed and they will be the right players with the right price.

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  • steve

    Aug 3, 2012 at 7:13 AM

    Comment #34

    Cant balme Lille for holding out for €8m. Its a fair price for an international rb. If we dont meet the valuation im sure someone else will.

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  • cyprus

    Aug 3, 2012 at 7:32 AM

    Comment #35

    AC is a great striker, hence he caught everyone’s eye and the silly money thrown at him. Management – and his folks- must practically have been begging him to go. He may have another stint somewhere else, but he WILL have his best, most glorious years with us. AC can play several types of game, not just head the ball in. Let’s face it, ‘King’ Ken is not exactly a tactical genius, he almost relegated us when we were a top 2 team.
    But, even there with Kenny, AC must have hit the post like 15 times, those could easily have been conversions.

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  • ITUNDERASHELL

    Aug 3, 2012 at 7:34 AM

    Comment #36

    Why not buy Anita and play him left back with Santon on the right. If we still want Debuchy then wait until January or next season?
    Only my opinion but Pardew is a very astute fella so l believe he knows exactly how to respond to the latest Debuchy setback.

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  • leeb1982

    Aug 3, 2012 at 7:35 AM

    Comment #37

    Anyone know if they is a nufc mini league in the sun dream team. If so it’s pin and password

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  • Papiss9

    Aug 3, 2012 at 7:45 AM

    Comment #38

    Since we are not willing to meet Lille’s askingprice, maybe AP is quite happy with Danny Simpson and wants to use most of the transferfunds elsewhere (Remy/Andy Carroll)

    I would love to see Debuchy coming to the club, but I think they have a plan B or C if dont get him

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  • jesperfuglsang

    Aug 3, 2012 at 7:52 AM

    Comment #39

    Chances are we might not buy any aand wait until January; it seems to be way MA and AP do business they cannot get the player they want.

    Don’t get your hopes up regarding Remy or Carroll. Ain’t gonna happen 😉

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  • bills-son

    Aug 3, 2012 at 7:54 AM

    Comment #40

    Don’t understand why fans are panicking about transfers.

    Guthrie and Best have left but they were fring first team players and Smith and Foster never played.

    STaylor and Marv are fit and we’ve got Bigi, Amalfitano and Good who all look as if they could do a job in the first team. And, the likes of Sammi and Tav are coming through strongly. Plus, all of our top players are still here and the new signings from last year are settled in. IMO we are stronger than last year already.

    So what’s the panic? We’ll sign players for sure but, because we are strong already, the club have no reason to pay over what they feel a player is worth. Saving a million here and there soon mounts up to enough for another £5M player. And, unlike most clubs, our £5M signings have been top quality.

    Calm down lads, the top brass know what they are doing.

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