The Latest On The Debuchy Saga – Deal Or No Deal?


Newcastle target Mathieu Debuchy played 70 minutes in Lille’s pre-season friendly against Rennes last night, as he gets ready for the new season, although he still doesn’t quite know where that will be.

Mathieu Debuchy – during Euro 2012

It seems that Newcastle have not given up on their top transfer target yet, even though Lille President Michel Seydoux seemed to pull the plug on his potential move to Tyneside last Thursday, when he said he was not for sale.

The reason was that Newcastle would not offer enough money for the player (isn’t that unusual), and Lille officials are now making all the noises that he will stay at the French club, but we think some of this is for Newcastle’s benefit, so the Tyneside club will bid higher.

After the match last night, Lille manager Rudi Garcia  had this to say about his right-back:

“Mathieu was good. It was important to play 70 minutes for him.” “He will have to digest the fact that the club does not want to release him and he has no choice in the matter.”

“It is important that he does well for us, for himself and for the France team.”

But this is not over yet, as Mathieu has requested a meeting with Seydoux, and he wants an explanation of why the deal has not gone through, because in the previous week the two teams had agreed a price at £6M plus add-ons, and personal terms were also agreed with the player.

Last Friday this is what Mathieu had to say about the deal that has dragged on and on this summer:

” I called the President and I left him a message, to ask him to clarify the situation for me.” “I do not understand.”  ”One day they told me they cannot let me go because the club did not find my successor.”

“Another day because the offer is insufficient from Newcastle. One day it is the coach who is blocking me, and the next day it is the President.”

“I am still determined to find something else, another experience, and I would like to speak with the President to make it clear between us.”

We don’t think this is over yet, but Newcastle will need to move soon, either to wrap up the Debuchy deal or go after other alternatives.

If we were betting men we’d say that Newcastle will still get Mathieu Debuchy this summer.

There’s only just over four weeks left in the transfer window, and we have no new senior players through the door yet at St. James Park yet.

And by the way, St. James’ Park has looked a terrific stadium in hosting the Olympic Games, and to get the new Stadium built was probably Freddy Shepherd’s greatest achievement while Chairman of Newcastle United for ten years.

On the transfer front,  all’s well that ends well, and if we can get three top players through the door this summer, we’ll be happy enough.

And we still think Mathieu will be one of them.

What do you think?

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63 comments so far

  • indian

    Aug 5, 2012 at 9:38 AM

    Comment #1

    1st

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  • Ben3arfa

    Aug 5, 2012 at 9:38 AM

    Comment #2

    useless , if he really wanted to join us he would have gone on strike

    btw Garcia is such an arrogant cock ..

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  • davybtoon

    Aug 5, 2012 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #3

    Think we should move on instead of wasting time chasing debuchy bcoz unless we offer what they want we won’t get him

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Aug 5, 2012 at 9:41 AM

    Comment #4

    Thats it debuchy lad give em shit!

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  • Tsunki

    Aug 5, 2012 at 9:45 AM

    Comment #5

    He has to be a pro and honour his current contract, but Lille must surely know they have a seriously demotivated player on their books now. This has to be the end game to force nufc to make a final bid. Has Debuchy made a formal transfer request?

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  • Davies

    Aug 5, 2012 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #6

    This is ridiculous.

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  • Munich Mag

    Aug 5, 2012 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #7

    I think the club have put in there bid, obviously way below the asking price, and are now waiting to see whether the player himself can make the move come off.

    Ignoring the fact that the toon have put in a low bid, Lille seem to be treating the lad with a certain amount of disrespect, after 8 years of solid service. It can only end in tears…

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  • pardews plan B

    Aug 5, 2012 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #8

    Debuchy could end up being a modric guys. Lets face facts. He’s being a proper professional by not going on strike….. So far……

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  • dmac

    Aug 5, 2012 at 9:49 AM

    Comment #9

    Really dont think this will happen, want it to but sadly think its time to move on.

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  • Munich Mag

    Aug 5, 2012 at 9:50 AM

    Comment #10

    Tsunki…..that’s the way the toon want it to go, I’m sure of it.. Not sure what it all means at the end of the day.

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  • hotdog

    Aug 5, 2012 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #11

    Tsunki – I posted on here that i didnt agree with his alleged no show at training last week. Well if it is true that he was promised a move if Newcastle met X figure and we have, then he has every right to shaft them now.

    My link to the game was crap yesterday, just watched the highlights and we seemed to have the better of it. I was thinking though before the game that i wondered if he would play the team to start the 1st game but he obviously didnt, maybe spurs scouts were watching 😉

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Aug 5, 2012 at 9:51 AM

    Comment #12

    Davybtoon the problem is they dont know what they want and according to various sources, including debuchy, they keep changing the conditions i actually think this has very little to do with us and what weve offered

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  • Munich Mag

    Aug 5, 2012 at 9:53 AM

    Comment #13

    I also signed a contract to work for my company. Does that mean I am not allowed to leave of my own accord. ?

    Debuchy signed a contract at Lille, but it doesn’t mean he isn’t entitled to leave. Do the club own the person just because he has signed a contract ? Get mukked into them Matthieu, your mate Cabaye and the toon army are waiting for you..!

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  • Munich Mag

    Aug 5, 2012 at 9:55 AM

    Comment #14

    toonarmydownsouth Lille are probably not too happy approaching a Champs League campaign with the prospect of losing France’s current right back for a paltry sum.

    Cannot blame them for having a lip on like …

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  • arroeben

    Aug 5, 2012 at 9:56 AM

    Comment #15

    Not every player wants to go on strike. He respects lille but wants to leave. That doesnt mean he should go on strike.

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  • Spotlight Kid

    Aug 5, 2012 at 9:59 AM

    Comment #16

    And by the way, St. James’ Park has looked a terrific stadium in hosting the Olympic Games…

    Probably didn’t look quite so good from the outside to the poor folks that had travelled thousands of miles to support their country, only to be stood in a queue to get in long after the game had kicked off.

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  • pardews plan B

    Aug 5, 2012 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #17

    I still think we’ll get him. He seems to wanna be here. Lille are obviously wanting to sell him now albeit not at our price and we really want him.
    He’s well worth the money. And looking at it if we have him and santoon bombing forward and a second dm to play by tiote to cover also releasing Cabaye with marveaux/ba/guti on the left and benny on the right cisse/ba up front, then that’s practically 4 wingers on the attack a lot of good options for overlapping, cutting inside, wingers drifting into the box as the fb takes the wing role. Cabaye playing a more attacking role showing his ability more……….yep that just finished me off. Time to change my shorts.

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  • Lalas 2012

    Aug 5, 2012 at 10:01 AM

    Comment #18

    I think we need this guy not only for his own talent but for the sake of keepin the dreamboat…. A lot of big teams will be in for cabaye over the next couple of seasons and since we don’t offer stupid wages we need other reasons for him to want to stay?

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  • Munich Mag

    Aug 5, 2012 at 10:02 AM

    Comment #19

    Spotlight Kid

    Apparently the ticket distribution had nothing to do with the clubs regular ticket distributors.

    Consequently it would be a real pity if the club, and moreso the city were to get tarred with the same brush, just because Seb Co and his mates picked out a numpty company to handle the ticket distribution.

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  • pardews plan B

    Aug 5, 2012 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #20

    @aroeben exactly mate

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  • arctoa

    Aug 5, 2012 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #21

    Yeah, the club itself had very little to do with the Olympics. The stadium was commandeered, effectively.

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  • Spuggy

    Aug 5, 2012 at 10:04 AM

    Comment #22

    Pards said he wants two players MAYBE three. As we’ve signed bigi and fitano I think the three will be FB, CF and MAYBE a CB. Perhaps that’s why tav has been tried at CB.

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  • magpiebop

    Aug 5, 2012 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #23

    Plans are already approved to take the top tier round the gallowgate if the demand for seats is there. I saw them on a guided tour of St James Park last summer. I even sat in big Mikes seat.

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  • Munich Mag

    Aug 5, 2012 at 10:05 AM

    Comment #24

    pardews plan B I remember when we were first linked with Debuchy several weeks ago, I thought ya beauty, he would be a great signing for the toon.

    I also think he’ll bring even more out of Obertan, to have them both bombing up that right wing. I reckon Debuchy would spend the majority of the game in front of Obertan !!

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Aug 5, 2012 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #25

    Munich mag, aye cant blame them like but imo there attitude has changed dramaticly since this whole saga started at first they were saying they respected his wishes and that he’d been a loyal servant to the club and fully supported his ambition now its like he’ll do as hes told just think its very unprofessional and tbh never understood why you’d want a player on the books who wants to leave personally i can see us signing him in jan there president reminds me of the way frieburgs spoke about cisse

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  • darrenfletcher88

    Aug 5, 2012 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #26

    I think the dust will settle and we will have him and Anita in by next Friday,

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  • Nick 69

    Aug 5, 2012 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #27

    Going on strik would be totally unprofessional, and lets face it, might not achieve anything at all anyway. People keep talking about how we won’t be held to ransom, I think Lille are proving with this deal, that THEY will not be held to ransom and just let their player go on the cheap just because we want him. Lille have said he can leave IF their requirements are met.

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  • Nick 69

    Aug 5, 2012 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #28

    Going on striker would be totally unprofessional, and lets face it, might not achieve anything at all anyway. People keep talking about how we won’t be held to ransom, I think Lille are proving with this deal, that THEY will not be held to ransom and just let their player go on the cheap just because we want him. Lille have said he can leave IF their requirements are met.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Aug 5, 2012 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #29

    Nick 69 the point is though you cant meet there conditions if they keep changing the terms which seems to be what debuchy wants an answer to

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  • wynsleap

    Aug 5, 2012 at 10:11 AM

    Comment #30

    “He has no choice in the matter”.
    Sounds a really positive way to endear a player to your club.
    Garcia and the Club President seem a really nice pair of guys.

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  • pardews plan B

    Aug 5, 2012 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #31

    @Munich awesome point as i really want oba to succeed

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  • nufcjohn

    Aug 5, 2012 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #32

    Daily Mirror says arsenal are set to make a move for gregory van der wiel in 4.5 million deal

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  • pardews plan B

    Aug 5, 2012 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #33

    Would it be wrong for me to be happy with perch next to tiote at least until January?

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  • Munich Mag

    Aug 5, 2012 at 10:18 AM

    Comment #34

    pardews plan B me too regarding Oba mate.

    I must admit, he frustrates the heck out of me at times, but he has speed and can be a great wild card, especially away from home where the home team are invariably pushing the game.

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  • t00ntime

    Aug 5, 2012 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #35

    @munichmag

    It depends what type of contract footballers sign, i’m guessing they sign binding ones and cant leave unless they + the board agree ots for the best (contract termination)
    otherwise we cud just fire xisco… But no we have to wait for him to agree to be fired or sell him (i cant see many people agreeing to be fired xD)

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  • Lalas 2012

    Aug 5, 2012 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #36

    Anyone think Debuchy could challenge cabaye for dreamboat status?

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  • adwend

    Aug 5, 2012 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #37

    if the fat b******** had spent £5 million more we would have three good players in now,he will never do anything for this club ,we soon forgot the renaming sjp the money he takes out the club,he lives on us getting bargain players that mr carr finds,HE AS DONE NOWT

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  • Toonboy_84

    Aug 5, 2012 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #38

    Adwend

    Wrong, side, bed?

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Aug 5, 2012 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #39

    See ‘arry redknapps been flapping his gums about modric saying the club had promised him he could go this season “if a club like real madrid come in for him” do feel a bit for modric thats 2 seasons he’s been promised he can go just goes to show the board can be stubborn fcukers! Also shows no good can come of opting for another club over the toon!

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Aug 5, 2012 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #40

    Adwend he doesnt take any money out the club thats illegal, and i suppose he didnt put over £100 mil debt free loan into the club either

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