£176K Tim Krul A Great Example Of Newcastle Policy


Tim Krul joined Newcastle in the summer of 2005 from his home town club ADO Den Haag, when he was just 17 years old, and Graeme Souness  was the Newcastle United manager.

Tim Krul – cost £176K seven years ago

Tim signed at Newcastle on an initial three-year deal, and his club demanded a compensation fee and appealed to the FIFA Dispute Resolution Chamber, and when they refused to hear the appeal Den Haag took the case to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS).

And the CAS finally ruled in February of 2007 in favor of  Den Haag, and Newcastle had to pay out €220K (£176K) in compensation to the Dutch club for their local lad.

So even in those days Newcastle were haggling at the fee fro players, but Tim Krul, seven years on since joining Newcastle,  is the number one goalkeeper on Tyneside and a Dutch International.

And last season, in his first season as Newcastle’s top goalkeeper, he was one of the best goalies in the Premier League, so it’s fitting to look back and see one avenue through which Newcastle can get good players in without having to pay daft fees for them

And we wonder what a certain Gael Bigirimana is going to be like in a couple of years time, as the 18 year-old has just been brought in from Coventry City this summer, and is another young player with enormous potential.

Tim  Krul who was born and raised in The Hague and joined Den Haag from school way back in 1996, when he was just 7 years old, and it was fitting that he returned home on Saturday afternoon with Newcastle United, who were 5th top of the Premier League last season.

This is what Tim said about the game on Saturday, and his return was a moment of triumph for the local lad:

“It was another good game for us. We didn’t concede any goals and that is great for the defence and me and I thought we played pretty well.”  “It was nice to be back and see some old friends. I have great memories of being with Den Haag who helped me to get a move to England and Newcastle.”

“I had eight years at the club and I will always be grateful for what they did for me. There was a lot of the Krul family at the game.”  “It would have been better to win the game and we had enough chance to score, but right now getting everyone fit is the main thing.”

Tim is a great example of how Newcastle can build top players for the future, and it’s the one we like the best.

Other players who were brought in when young and look to make the grade at Newcastle United are Mehdi Abeid, Haris Vuckic and new boys Curtis Good and Gael Bigirimana

We keep these lads separate from all the local lads at the club, like Sammy Ameobi,  and when Tim was brought in Newcastle didn’t even have an active youth policy.

But we do now, and this is one way to build Newcastle into a top side again, and it’s good to remember how we brought in Tim and developed him into the top player he is today.

And it must have been a triumph for Tim, and for Newcastle, to play his former club Den Haag on Saturday afternoon, and it was also fitting for the Dutchman, the local lad – to keep a clean sheet.

Tim is almost a perfect example of how Newcastle can bring in young players and build them into top stars – and he cost only £176K – and how much is he worth today?

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36 comments so far

  • dave 1961

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #1

    the future looks great its the now that slightly concerns me, i want to see us have a go at winning something.

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  • eaststandgeordie1982

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #2

    Just needs to work on a couple of things no doubt he is becoming world class

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  • Beattie25

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #3

    Its all well and good buying youth but we do have to wait years to reap the rewards.

    In the time that Krul has been here we have had many bottom half finishes, delegation and promotion from the 2nd teir of English football.

    So whilst it was 176k well spent it was an investment that came good after 6 years.

    And for every Krul there is also a Kadar.

    It is essential that we don’t waste our current potential by the top dogs refusing to invest. We are stacking our tower of cards high but just oneistake could see the whole tower crumble.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #4

    When Given left, I wondered how long it would be until we had another top class keeper (and that isn’t meant to be disrespectful to Harps). This kid is great and I’m so glad we have him at the toon. He was huge for us last season and can only get better…what a wonderful thought that is

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  • Partizan

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #5

    He can consider himself lucky cos if Given hadn’t went to City,only god knows if he would ever had the chance to play for us.Frankly speaking,when Feyenord wanted to sign him at all costs i though we would lose him that time.
    I’m happy that it didnt turn out that way.

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  • dave 1961

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #6

    i have a few hours of freedom before going in to hospital for surgery in the morning, 10 day’s to get some sort of readiness for the spurs game.

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  • peterrwrightt

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #7

    i am now not expecting any more signings this window. Pardew’s comments recently suggest that he’s not confident of getting any body else over the line. i’m fine with the current team up untill january, where we WILL need to strengthen to keep up, hopefully, with the top 4.

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  • dave 1961

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #8

    peterrwrightt
    we do always seem to make a profit in each window, just a pity our record on injury’s wasn’t as good

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  • jimmymagpie

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #9

    Beattie @ 3 – yes mate, and look at all the kids we’ve thrown out this summer. People forget that Carr scouted a lot of these lads and they didn’t make it. My nephew is still trying to fix up 3 of them with new clubs.

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  • Beattie25

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #10

    If we don’t sign anyone I’m going to protest like the Everton fans did last year.

    I might be the only one but I’ll stand up for what I believe in.

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  • MagpiesFlyHigh

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #11

    Beattie @3

    and what about Vuckic ?
    Will he make the grade. ?

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  • peterrwrightt

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #12

    is Van Der Wiel any good? 35 caps at his age for Holland is really good… why do Ajax not want to give him a new contract?

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #13

    Peterwright,
    Probably will be ok till January but it will be a major dissapointment if we don’t get at least one in the building or over the line,us fans live for the excitement new players bring, I can’t express how pi**ed off I’ll be if I see RTaylor lining up as a left back any time soon.

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  • dave 1961

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #14

    Ashley gets £20m of free adverts for sports direct and if he fails to strengthen the squad it will show he has absolutely zero ambition, at this rate he will be showing a profit from his purchase very soon.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #15

    Jimmy…Are the kids we released from Carr recommendations? I thought most were here before him, but certainly not sure of it. Interesting.

    Beattie..And so you should. I doubt you’d be alone, but I suggest when you’re there, you look around and take a good long look at those beside you 😉

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  • Bloody Marveauxlous

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #16

    Transfers In:

    Debuchy – £7M
    Anita – £7M
    Douglas – £4.5M
    Caroll / Remy – £15M

    Cleverly (on loan) – I think he would look good in the no. 7 shirt!

    ———————Krul——————–
    Debuchy–Douglas–Colo—-Santon
    —————-Tiote—-Anita————-
    HBA—————Ba————Cabaye
    ——————–Cisse——————–

    /

    ———————Krul——————–
    Debuchy–Douglas–Colo—-Santon
    ——————–Tiote——————–
    HBA————Cabaye———–Remy
    —————Ba———Cisse————

    I think our team for Europa next year should have similarities to our team of 2010/11 and 2011/12 :

    ———————–Krul———————
    Simmo—-Saylor———Colo—-Santon
    Obertan—-Bigi——–Cleverly—-Jonas
    ——————–Shola———————-
    ——————–Caroll———————-

    What do you guys think?!

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  • Beattie25

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #17

    I think Vuckic will but maybe not for another 5 years before he hits his peak. He’s 19 and it is unfair to expect so much from our youth so soon.

    We need investment in experience as much as youth.

    You have to build foundations before the building work can begin.

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  • Nick 69

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #18

    peterrwrightt – I think if we dont strengthen now we can safely say the top 4 will be out of sight come Jan IMO with the players those teams have brought in.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #19

    Dave…..Is the £20m figure factual? As in, has anyone else offered Mike £20m to call it the “…..arena”? I will agree, that he is obviously getting free advertising, or so it would seem. But let’s not just throw figures about.

    PeterWright…Don’t know too much and have heard many differing opinions. One is that he is about to enter the last year of his contract and has said he wont sign a new one (with the figures being offered), so Ajax are trying to get some money back for the player before he leaves on a free.

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  • Gateshead-Mag

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:31 AM

    Comment #20

    im not really concerned about signings atm

    what concerns me a little bit is the fact that atm it seems like pardew is going to play 442 for the majority of the season as he wants to accomodate ba and cisse

    I dunno about everyone else but i find us much more of a threat playing 4 33

    thoughts anyone??

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  • dave 1961

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:39 AM

    Comment #21

    Ibizatoon
    the £20 would be for the stadium advertising also, sports direct have more exposure than virgin do.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:43 AM

    Comment #22

    Dave…I got that, just querying how we reached the £20m figure.

    One other question, how can one “bad” window make all of the other work equal “zero ambition”?

    I can see getting p*ss*d off with him, but to write all of the other work of isn’t right either.

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  • martoon

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:46 AM

    Comment #23

    jimmymagpie @9 – You make a good point – I for one am not comfortable with the way we raise these kids hopes and then toss them on the scrap heap.

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  • peterrwrightt

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:51 AM

    Comment #24

    one day i feel confident about finishing top 6 again this season, the next day i worry about the size of our squad for all the games we’ve got this season..

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:54 AM

    Comment #25

    Martoon…Can you elaborate that point? Are you saying we should stick with players longer?

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  • jimmymagpie

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:55 AM

    Comment #26

    Ibiza – they weren’t all Carr recommends but a few were, especially the foreign ones, and most have gone. Lads like Adjei, Soderburgh, Edmondsson, and 1 or 2 others.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:59 AM

    Comment #27

    Jimmy…I suppose he can’t get it right every time, but it seems he has an eye for talent.

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  • martoon

    Aug 6, 2012 at 12:01 PM

    Comment #28

    Ibiza @25 I just feel there should be some kind of safety net for these young lads who could well have been at the club since they were about 12 or so. They think they are going to make it and probably skimp on their education and then suddenly at the age of about 16/17 find themselves dumped. Maybe help to find another club or help to go on to further education – I just feel there should be something – imagine if it was your son!

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 6, 2012 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #29

    Martoon…That’s a fair enough point. Personally, I think all youth players should not only be encouraged to continue their education, but it should be insisted on. Just because you play football, does not mean you shouldn’t broaden your horizons.

    However, I doubt we fill up kids heads with “you’ll be a star here”, unless they show the the potential to do so. If they don’t eventually fulfill that potential, they need to be moved on.

    We could of course be a little more helpful and help finding them a suitable club to move to.

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  • peterrwrightt

    Aug 6, 2012 at 12:06 PM

    Comment #30

    off work for 2 weeks… should make the premier league season hurry up 😀

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 6, 2012 at 12:09 PM

    Comment #31

    Peter…Ay, nothing like having no distractions to make time hurry up. I feel for ya 🙂

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  • peterrwrightt

    Aug 6, 2012 at 12:17 PM

    Comment #32

    ibizatoon, dont girlfriends count as a distraction?! being dragged to town now. traaaaaaaaa.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 6, 2012 at 12:34 PM

    Comment #33

    Peter…They certainly do. In fact, they are the biggest distractions of them all.

    You off shoe shopping? Enjoy 🙂

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  • arctoa

    Aug 6, 2012 at 2:20 PM

    Comment #34

    I don’t normally pick at articles but he’s not a great example of our current policy at all, because the policy wasn’t in place at the time. Our policy at that time was to throw money at established players and hope it stuck.

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  • wynsleap

    Aug 6, 2012 at 2:42 PM

    Comment #35

    Beattie @ 3 – That just about sums it up for me.
    If we don’t invest in some first team recruits this close season after the season we’ve just had and that fact that we have more games coming up this season than before I think it will prove that Ashley doesn’t have any real ambition for this club other than book balancing.
    In fact it would a criminal dereliction of duty.
    Unfortunately I, for one, am not interested in seeing a healthy balance sheet turning out for the club as a striker, right back or central defender.
    This constant grinding down of the chase for Debuchy for a million or so, for example, is both depressing and pathetic. It certainly does not augur well for any future transfer dealings we may have with clubs.
    A lot of us have been wondering just when our owner will make his next big gaffe to go and spoil things. Buying no one in this window and ruining a great opportunity to take this club on further, will be it.

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  • 89Norcal

    Aug 6, 2012 at 5:36 PM

    Comment #36

    He’ll be between the sticks on the Dutch team before long. I’d give him another year to really assert himself and show his abilities. With a healthy back 4 he would have kept more clean sheets last season, I think.

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