Newcastle Concerns About Hatem Ben Arfa


Ben Arfa and Yohan Cabaye, our top two French Internationals haven’t played yet in pre-season, after they have been back at Newcastle for only a week,  since having some rest following their Euro 2012 exploits.

Hatem Ben Arfa – in action earlier this year

Alan Pardew has said that Newcastle lacked some flair and creativity in the game at Den Haag on Saturday, and certainly the two Frenchman have plenty of that, and especially Ben Arfa, Newcastle’s mercurial winger, who seems to be able to do almost anything on the football pitch, when he’s in the mood.

The Newcastle manager has today said that striker Shola Ameobi and reliable center-back Mike Williamson are likely to start against Hartlepool tomorrow night, and fit again Dan Gosling and and rising young star James Tavernier are also likely to get a start.

This is what Alan Pardew told the local press this morning:

“We are looking forward to it. It is another game and the guys who did not get the main bulk of it in Holland will do tomorrow.”  “Shola will play and Willo too.”  “Then we can go into Cardiff with everybody ready to go.”

Ben Arfa’s fitness is a apparently becoming a worry for Newcastle, so we have to assume he’s come back not in particularly good shape, after the few weeks off  he had following the Euro 2012 tournament.

It’s shades of what happened last season, when the 25 year-old injured his left ankle on Newcastle’s American tour, in the 0-0 draw with Sporting Kansas City, and he was carried off on a stretcher to the dismay of Newcastle fans.

Alan said yesterday that he wants to see Ben Arfa become more consistent in a Newcastle jersey next season, and no doubt he will be handling him with kit gloves after he has had a few injuries over the last two years at Newcastle.

The Frenchman had that terrible double fracture of his left leg at Manchester City in early October two years ago, and to the lad’s credit he came back well last season, and was outstanding for Newcastle from January on.

Alan was asked today if the Frenchman would be playing tomorrow night at Hartlepool United:

“Possibly, but he is way behind and for a number of reasons.”

A short answer from the Newcastle gaffer, but it does seem difficult for the former Lyon and Marseilles player to make the first game against Tottenham a week come Saturday, and that’s a pity because the lad can unlock almost any defense on his day.

Gabby Obertan showed up well on Saturday, and he could get the start against Spurs, but there are also players like Sammy Ameobi and Romain Amalfitano,  who can do a decent job on the right wing.

We would expect Ben Arfa to get some playing time both tomorrow night and on Saturday at Cardiff City, and with some diligent training this week and next, we suppose he could make the squad for our first game of the season on 18th August.

He’s also in the French squad with Yohan Cabaye, to play at Le Havre against Uruguay on the Wednesday  before the season starts against Tottenham.

We hope to see Yohan Cabaye in the last two pre-season games, and it seems that Mathieu Debuchy’s pal reported back in good shape, and come to think of it we’d also like to see Mathieu Debuchy playing at Newcastle – soon.

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29 comments so far

  • Jail for Ashley

    Aug 6, 2012 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #1

    Having an horrific nightmare about being chased by a giant jam filled doughnut only to wake next to Sonia from Easterenders.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Aug 6, 2012 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #2

    Is too god for Ashley.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 6, 2012 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #3

    Before any panic starts to set in, this could be Pardews may of letting Hatem to pick things up. Holidays are over etc.

    Be nice to have him ready for the Spurs game mind. I trust Alan will handle him as needed.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Aug 6, 2012 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #4

    good

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  • Beattie25

    Aug 6, 2012 at 10:50 AM

    Comment #5

    Ha ha I was Bloomin.

    Ive missed those JFA.

    Never forget I gave you a tribute once as JFA2. That’s how much I respect you.

    Keep up the good work

    Xxx

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  • Beattie25

    Aug 6, 2012 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #6

    Willo is playing against Hartlepool?

    Were going to get hammered.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 6, 2012 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #7

    Dunno Jail, sounds like a bloody good night to me 🙂

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  • bills-son

    Aug 6, 2012 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #8

    Guys – have you got your season tickets yet?

    Mine haven’t arrived yet and no one answering the ticket office phone.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 6, 2012 at 10:55 AM

    Comment #9

    bills-son…I think I saw an article they’re being sent out some point this week

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  • Beattie25

    Aug 6, 2012 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #10

    Quick questionarre.

    If we don’t sign anyone (I am 99% sure that we will) what will be the general consensus?

    I will be filled with rage, feel betrayed and finally decide that I hate llambias and Ashley.

    But how would you guys feel?!

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  • eaststandgeordie1982

    Aug 6, 2012 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #11

    Season tickets start getting posted out from today

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  • Sholadona

    Aug 6, 2012 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #12

    I’ll take the jam doughnut! 😉

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  • eaststandgeordie1982

    Aug 6, 2012 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #13

    Stuff the donut just give me sonia lol

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  • arroeben

    Aug 6, 2012 at 10:59 AM

    Comment #14

    What could behind for a few reasons be?

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  • eaststandgeordie1982

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #15

    Doughnut

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #16

    Beattie…Love the optimism mate. Please don’t make me research games that Willo played in and we didn’t get hammered and yes, I know you can find games where he did and we did.

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  • bambams

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #17

    It’s so important to get off to a good start to the season, we just need to hope benny, cabs and the dembas are all fit and my shout for this season . . Marv !

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  • dave 1961

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #18

    the season tickets are being sent out in batches so don’t expect them in the morning, as it does not say how the batches are made up.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #19

    Beattie….I would say a little disappointed. That would then change as the season progressed, If we’re doing well, it would be hard to be p*ss*d with them. If however, they do not strengthen and we suffer badly, I can almost guarantee most will share your hulk like anger.

    Others…It’s clearly the combination of doughnut and sonia that make it oh so wonderful. Debate over 😉

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #20

    Bambams…Good start would be great. Let’s not forget though that it wasn’t really those players you mentioned that gave us our great start last year.

    The up shot is, we will have to see what happens. We may find ourselves surprised to see who steps up to the plate this season.

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  • jesperfuglsang

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #21

    Question: why did Dreamboat and Benny get so long a vacation after the Euro; it is not like France went all the way 😉

    Question: why don’t hw just get some game time and intensive training so he can get in shape?

    Question: what’s going on a Newcastle these days? Are we not taking this serious enough?

    Question: who has another question B-)

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  • jimmymagpie

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #22

    When I posted you from Portugal and told you that Ben Arfa hadn’t turned up, I was greeted with my ususal abuse from the usual susoects. He was supposed to join up on the day of the Braga game and have a few days warm weather training. He took it upon himself to join up on the Wednesday whaen the team got back to Ncle, and Pardew was livid. He seems to be a law unto himself, and I wonder how long before Pardew can take no more, like many others before him, with Ben Arfa.

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  • jimmymagpie

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #23

    Jesper – Cabaye did everything asked of him, linking up in Portugal, and in fact got 20 mins in the Braga game. I think you’ll find that he’ll be ok for Spurs.

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  • derekm

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #24

    you have to stand back and let the transfer methods roll on – the recent track record is simply not to get ripped off and to do the best thing for our finances. Clubs like Lille got their pants torn off with cabaye – pride alone will keep debuchy there for as long as possible.
    The same thing with carroll

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  • LGFUAD21

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #25

    Ibizatoon – Back by popular demand

    Re: Ruddy

    “He’s the hero this blog deserves but not the one it needs right now”

    #popculturereferences

    But in all seriousness. No one has the right to run anyone off this blog. Especially one so supportive of the team. Shola bashers? Yes, because that’s tantamount to blaspheme.

    Beattie25

    though i often find you a complete pessimist i too agree that no signings this window should be seen as complete and utter failure. I wouldnt chalk it down to character flaws in DL and MA though. But more a combination between stubbornness (which spellcheck informs me has 2 n’s in) and ineptitude in negotiating. It’s not like we’ve been quoted any truly outrageous fees.

    If its price then I would reiterate that to keep Simmo and sign Pieters would be a good deal. Pieters can play either flank and occasionally fill CB. Im curious about what the deal with Santon is.

    What one TYPE of player does everbody think would make a significant difference to this team when you disregard the blatant need for cover in defensive areas?

    And also which ONE current player does everybody think is most instrumental to team form/performance?

    Just curious and bored of tranfer sagas so trying to stir up a different discussion.

    the first question, I honestly dont know.Perhaps a LW (but we havent fully seen what Marv can do and the signs are very promising). One thing I dont think we exploited enough was how excellent our strikers are at poaching. I dont think we delivered enough crosses for the Dembas. Apart from that I’d say Enriqe=ue was missed at times.

    The second: I think I’d say Tiote. We are always a force with him in form dominating games.

    One problem I think we have is that we have struggled to create since Carroll left. Not because of Carroll but because we can no longer hoof and hope. But thats more a coaching/tactical thing i think because there is no denying that we have the players to play the game.

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  • jimmymagpie

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #26

    @ 25 – not much use signing Pieters, he has serious injury concerns.

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  • jesperfuglsang

    Aug 6, 2012 at 11:39 AM

    Comment #27

    @jimmymagpie

    that’s right! I remember you did that – you always seem to get abuse from certain people you just suck it up my good friend 😉

    Lets hope it is not as bad as it looks with Bennyboy 🙂

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  • HullMag6

    Aug 6, 2012 at 1:20 PM

    Comment #28

    Hope we sign some improvements soon, don’t think current squad can cope with all fixtures.

    Imo needed specialist (left footed) lb, cb, cdm, cf.

    Debuchy is an upgrade for simmo if he goes or luxury if he doesnt. Ben arfa is a worry though.

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  • G

    Aug 6, 2012 at 1:30 PM

    Comment #29

    Are we not reading a bit too much into HBA’s condition? Just a thought, but it is Ramadan (or at least it was). Ba and Cisse have managed as they have been training for a number of weeks now, however, HBA has only been back a week.

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