LLambias On Continent Trying To Tie Up Vurnon Anita Deal


The Evening Chronicle is reporting today that Newcastle have indeed held new talks with Vurnon Anita’s new agent Mino Raiola, but the Dutch International has been told he will not be one of the club’s top earners,  if he elects to join Newcastle United.

Vurnon Anita – Newcastle in talks with Ajax and agent

It seems that the new news on Anita is that his wages could become a difficult hurdle for Newcastle, and of course we know that Ajax have already offered him an improved deal to stay in Holland.

Vurnon has been told basically that his wages will be reconsidered after six months, after he has had a chance to impress at Newcastle, and that seems to us very fair, because Newcastle will no longer pay out huge wages for a player who has not proved himself at Newcastle, like we used to do under Freddy Shepherd.

Newcastle are true to their word too, because Cheick Tiote, Fabricio Coloccini and Tim Krul have all received  long term improved contracts at Newcastle, after becoming some of  the club’s very best players. Newcastle definitely pay for performance, and there’s nothing wrong with that, and most sane companies do exactly that.

If Anita elects to go elsewhere for bigger wages then that’s fine too, because we don’t want players coming to Newcastle just for the money.

It seems that Derek Llambias and secretary Lee Charnley are in talks on the continent to get Vurnon Anita to Newcastle, and there’s a decent possibility that  Gregory van der Wiel  could also be part of the deal.

But it’s been clear this summer that Newcastle will not relax their tight transfer policy, even though the club are in good financial shape at the moment, which cannot be said for the vast majority of Premier League clubs, and they still refuse to pay over the odds.

There’s  a chance that Newcastle could get both Anita and van der Weil through the door, but it could still take some time before we know whether Newcastle have been successful in their efforts – we’ll keep out fingers crossed.

Howay The Lads!!

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57 comments so far

  • pardews plan B

    Aug 10, 2012 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #1

    Vdw part of the deal. You can have anita but take this prima dinba if US

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  • WWYCD

    Aug 10, 2012 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #2

    Does DL have a timeshare in Holland by any chance?

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  • Spreadthetoon

    Aug 10, 2012 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #3

    fingers crossed!

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  • tequilamag

    Aug 10, 2012 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #4

    Poor Deryk every timand he sneaks off to the Dam for some Cheeba and hookers its all over the press

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  • Londtoon

    Aug 10, 2012 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #5

    Refreshing sky sports at work for confirmation…

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  • G

    Aug 10, 2012 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #6

    I have my doubts about VDW, but Anita looks exactly the type of player we need.

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  • LGFUAD21

    Aug 10, 2012 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #7

    FRom last post

    Ibizatoon – Back by popular demand

    I rate a few Liverpool players.
    Reina is a great keeper.
    Agger and Skrtel are a good CB partnership.
    Obviously Enrique.
    Glen Johnson has him moments when he turns up.
    Suarez is a difficult CF to deal with.
    Lucas is very good too.

    That’s about it though. Havent included Gerrard because he’s good but old.

    Graeme

    Oh yeah Anita is never a CB. He likes to attack too much.
    I was on about Mbiwa at RB. Just seems strange to me. Cant see him played there.

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  • Graeme

    Aug 10, 2012 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #8

    Anita would be an immense signing for us; If we were to only get one player signed up in this window, he is the one I would go for.

    He would improve the team immeasurably sitting alongside Tiote in front of the back four allowing Cabaye to pull the strings in front of them. He is a lot better than he is being given credit for!!

    I hope this story is true and the management can pull it off!! Just have to wait until he turns up at SJP, complete with new stripey jumper!!

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  • Londtoon

    Aug 10, 2012 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #9

    Never seen Vdw but Anita is top class

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  • LGFUAD21

    Aug 10, 2012 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #10

    Worrying that Anita talks a lot about wages. What’s the going rate in Holland. I have no idea how Prem wages can compete if they can. At least in with the Frenchies we know that paying them more that 25k/week is a payrise.

    My worry is AC Milan offering more. Its not like they need to to be a more attractive prospect in the first place.

    Anyone noticed that AC Milan are seemingly after everyone this season?

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  • BelfastMagpie87

    Aug 10, 2012 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #11

    Feck knows.

    I’ve never seen him play,so dont have a clue..

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  • fog on the tyne

    Aug 10, 2012 at 10:53 AM

    Comment #12

    From previous thread

    I simply cant understand why ur sayin lpool and spurs are a big club, they are mediocre teams which are in transformation. Modric is leaving so they will be so 1 dimentional itll be like watching stoke in white. Both managers only have 1 style of play and cant switch the style very well. At least when we need to we can pump the ball in the air, ok admitedly it not pretty but WE do make it affective.
    I’m one of the few on here who thinks caroll would be deadly for is given the players who have joined since his departure.

    Krul
    Simmo saylor colo santon
    Tiote
    Marv Cabaye
    Cisse. Benny
    Carrol

    Ben arfa would play in hole sort to speak and cisse would be pushing on ahead looking for lay backs and flick ons from the big lad, all this shit that carrol needs the ball in air is crap, he is mint at coming deep to get the ball on his toe and knocking it round corners and holding it up, which would sllow our full backs and middle 3 to bomb on on to channels and split defences to allow cisse to pick up the scraps and hit the odd blockbuster.

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  • LGFUAD21

    Aug 10, 2012 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #13

    Plus why do they want Anita they have Motolivo?

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  • t00ntime

    Aug 10, 2012 at 10:56 AM

    Comment #14

    Heard alot from ajax fans and dutch fans that anita is underrated and cud definatly be a quality player in the premier league though he can improve in certain aspects of his game (exactlt what nufc want)
    But vdw wud be a waste of money, he is overrated and since his injury (2years ago i think) he has never reached that form again, it doesnt look like he ever will. And ajax fans said they wud love to sell him cause they need a better RB…
    So too me if he is barely good enuf for an eredivise club he wont be any better then simmo and probably worse…

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  • jimmymagpie

    Aug 10, 2012 at 10:57 AM

    Comment #15

    Beattie – it’s been quiet mate, because Llambsarse has been swanning round the venues at the Olympic Games, and Ashley has been devoting his time to the investment with Rangers. I don’t know what it takes to make some people on here realise that NUFC are no more than a small arm of the Ashley BUSINESS empire. He has absolutely no emotional attachment to this football club, even less to the city and region, and positively dislikes Geordies. Listen carefully to what Pardew said after the game on Tuesday. My own daughter saw Llambsarse at the Velodrome with his wife, watching the cycling, and a near neighbour, whose name you would all know, saw him in the corporate area at a GB men’s hockey match, all which was alluded to by Pards on Tuesday. Today our casino owner is in Lyon for the European draws – another jolly!

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  • jimmymagpie

    Aug 10, 2012 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #16

    By the way, Llambsarse hasn’t been back to Holland. He has spoken to Ajax and the player’s agent by telephone. As stated above, he’s in France.

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  • nico

    Aug 10, 2012 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #17

    Krul
    Santon Saylor Colo Anita
    Tiote Guti or Bigi
    Benny Cabaye Marv
    Cisse or Ba

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  • nico

    Aug 10, 2012 at 11:01 AM

    Comment #18

    4-2-3-1

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  • LGFUAD21

    Aug 10, 2012 at 11:02 AM

    Comment #19

    fog on the tyne

    When I said Liverpool and Spurs are big clubs I just just mean the clubs that normally fill the European football slots. So 1st-6th

    It’s Carrolls finishing I dont rate. Just seems to have a week shot. And for the money I would not be happy that we wont pay the fee for Debuchy but will for AC

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  • pawl250

    Aug 10, 2012 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #20

    Would like Anita, would pass on VDW!

    Anita would serve as backup if you ask me, UNLESS you he plays at left back which I can actually see.

    Hes versatile for when Tiote is injured but, seriously cant see all this 4-2-3-1 blah blah too complicated, it means too much cover is required.

    A simple 4-3-3 or 4-4-2 with minor positioning allowing certain players to play higher or deeper on the pitch!

    4-2-3-1 allows only one of our strikers to play most likely Cisse. Question where does this leave the mighty BA? I would rather him be on the pitch that off it!

    Possibly the best striker combo we have had since Shearer/Ferdinand! and people want to put Ferdinand on the bench!

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  • LGFUAD21

    Aug 10, 2012 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #21

    nico

    Think it’d be better to play Anita next to Tiote and Jonas LB personally. Jonas will have a better read of the English game and ANita is more productive than Jonas. From a holding position he can always drop in to fill for Jonas

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  • Lee Dodd

    Aug 10, 2012 at 11:03 AM

    Comment #22

    Same old Same old !!!!!!!! They wanted X Amount We offered Half and they wouldn’t take it. Lambias Should Be in France Not Holland offering the asking Price For Debouchey !!! We have Enough Midfield Players !!!!

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 10, 2012 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #23

    Jimmy….No one is under any illusions with regards to what Ashley and Llambias are about, they are business men. Why would they have an emotional attachment to the club? They do have an interest in the club doing well however and can amazingly conduct business from anywhere in the world…even the Olympics.

    You may be proved right in the long run, although, personally I have my doubts. We will not be able to judge the Ashley regime fairly until some way down the line (different from the transfer line incidentally 🙂 ).

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  • pawl250

    Aug 10, 2012 at 11:06 AM

    Comment #24

    Fog on the Tyne – From Previous Thread also!

    My opinion is I think its awful!

    We are all entitled to opinion that is mine =)

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  • LGFUAD21

    Aug 10, 2012 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #25

    pawl250

    I think Pards is looking at the 4-2-3-1 formation. Has toyed with it in Pre season. I imagine Ba would be rotated with Cisse for Europa and Prem spots.

    You have a point. And I love the Ferdinand comparison. Personally I just think we have better chemistry potentially without Ba and Cisse together. 2 strikers are difficult to utilise properly these days without one being in the Del Pierro or Suarez molds. (Feel a bit sick I just mentioned that Racist rat in the same sentence as Del Piero).

    Plus Anita is far too good for back up

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  • tequilamag

    Aug 10, 2012 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #26

    If you think our owners are bad , look at Cardiff. They would have changed our strip to red and white. The horror of which is too much to contemplate.

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  • SupaToonKid

    Aug 10, 2012 at 11:09 AM

    Comment #27

    Hopefully Llambias will use the example of Cheick Tioté joining us on £8K a week but then his superb performances resulted in a very nice £40K a week 6.5 year deal.

    From what I’ve heard & seen of Anita in interviews and through articles he doesn’t seem like a money grabber but a very good, young player who like Tioté just wants to improve his career & test himself in a higher league, enjoy his football & then the big bucks will inevitably come in.

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  • jimmymagpie

    Aug 10, 2012 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #28

    Tequila – that would be the end, mate!

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  • pawl250

    Aug 10, 2012 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #29

    Lee Dodd –

    I agree, we have alot of backup in midfield

    Cabaye, Tiote, Gosling, Jonas, Obertan, Ben Arfa, Marveaux, Abeid, Amalfitano, Birigimana, Vuckic, Perch (if needs be), RTaylor

    Our defence is lacking, especially in quality.

    Simpson, Williamson, Perch, STaylor, Colo, Santon, Tav

    Hmmm hard choice to choose which needs improving!

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  • TorqToon

    Aug 10, 2012 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #30

    I think so many people are judging the Ba and Cissé partnership based on last season. Let’s not forget (…as I have said before!), Cissé came in and came into the fray immediately, as Besty picked up that injury. They barely had any training time, and rarely played together for Senegal. What is different this time round is they have had playing time together, probably know eachothers style inside and out. With training an practice/pre season matches, they have been allowe to play together and I feel they have done well. So many people leave Ba out – yet were cacking it when we heard about his release clause!! Double standards!

    Trust me; Pards will know what he is doing and if he says the Ba can play a central role with Papisto – then they can forge a dealt partnership before! Give the lad a break fellas! HWTL

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  • LGFUAD21

    Aug 10, 2012 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #31

    jimmymagpie

    You bring my mood down.

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  • fog on the tyne

    Aug 10, 2012 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #32

    I dont think we need anita, i think we have a “new” player in marv who if he can stay fit will have misfielders and full backs scared shitless. We have enough cover from midfield as tiote just sits and when he needs to cabaye does a excellent job at sweeping up. Also i wouldnt have a prob in starting bigi or abeid as they have both showing what astute players they already are. My only concern from the younger players is vuckic, as he seems to have stopped progressing at the high pace he was this time 2 years ago.

    So on summings up id forget anita bring in the full back ( as i think he is better and prob a better prospect than debuchy) , and use the 8m or so which it would cost for anita and bang the money to the scousers for carrol. Bite the bullet and pay them what wham were going to,

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  • toon smart

    Aug 10, 2012 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #33

    @ Jimmymagpie

    If there is a stalemate in the transfer market regarding our targets then what can Llambias do?
    Also, i think it is better to have an owner without an emotional attachement to the club – less likely to make rash decisions. In addition, i think Ashley is going to do things his way and that is that. Hard negotiating to begin with then last minute wheeling and dealing by the look of past transfer windows. I am sure Ashely has a large enough team of people to deal with all aspects of business, so I don’t think it is likely he is personally negotiating every deal.

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  • nezzatoonmad

    Aug 10, 2012 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #34

    for me a 4123 formation would suit the toon at best

    krull
    santon, collo, taylor, any lb
    tiote
    cabaye, bigi
    ba, cisse, arfa

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  • jimmymagpie

    Aug 10, 2012 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #35

    LG – sorry, I don’t mean to do that, just my opinion. Toon – well mate, they finding out that to sign established international players, you have to get nearer the asking price. That doesn’t mean throwing stupid money at it. We are basing the value of players on a financial criteria, whereas, of course the true value of the player has to be weighed in footballing terms.

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  • jimmymagpie

    Aug 10, 2012 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #36

    Llambias and Charnley negotiate NUFC transfers.

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  • pawl250

    Aug 10, 2012 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #37

    LGFUAD21 –

    Anita will not be played ahead of Cabaye or Tiote in a 4-4-2 therefore in the team if not left back would be backup!

    in a 4-2-3-1 I think its flatters to deceive. Yes we have a more defensive set up in an example

    Simpson – STaylor – Colo – Santon
    Tiote – Anita/Jonas
    Ben Arfa – Cabaye – Marv
    Cisse

    It leaves your already and arguably weakest point of the team vulnerable – our full backs.

    Tiote and Anita will be covering midfield players, they dont have time for wingers or if they do the system will be flawed as it will require a higher up the field Cabaye to return into a deeper role as cover.

    Marv and Ben Arfa will not defend and if they do again defys the formations strength. If they did cover and follow wingers/fullbacks they will show their own weakness – the ability to not tackle.

    The major strength providing we could successfully defend would be our counter attacking options.

    I think a 4-4-2 would suffice it would stop wing backs as midfielders know they have to track back i.e. Jonas or Ben Arfa when playing on a right side role.

    Atleast when the ball is played upfield we have 2 players to hold it up and play the ball. Not 1 player alone against 2 possibly 3 at the same time.

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  • nezzatoonmad

    Aug 10, 2012 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #38

    to be honest i dont think there will be any more deals regarding these players tight ass ashlely wouldnt pay for any players that are over the 4 mill mark he knows nothing about football and he should sell out, so all these transfers are just to keep us in our seats and we be lucky to be at the top 8 this season because at the last day of this transfer market i wouldnt be suprised if ba, cisse, tiote, cabaye and arfa would be sold at the very last minute like carrol

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 10, 2012 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #39

    jimmymagpie // Aug 10, 2012 at 11:08 AM

    Morning Ibiza – you may well be right mate, but most club owners either already have, or form an attachment to their clubs, even Abramovich. If business can be done from anywhere, where don’t the dreadful duo spend more time in the city, and get a real feel for the area. Llambias is the only chief executive in the Premier League who isn’t on the premises at least 3 days a week. After all, he is ultimately responsible for the admin of the club, and just as an example, yet again thousands haven’s received their season tickets just one week before the first match. Third season running that this has happened.

    —–

    Abramovich? Please, it’s just his expensive toy. No real love there imo. Not the type of commitment I am looking for being completely honest. Sure, I would like the titles and silverware, but it’s a fake pride imo (I know others will disagree).

    As I said, they’re business men and probably don’t see the benefit of spending more time in the area…other than to create a better feeling amongst the fans, which they clearly don’t care too much about. I would imagine they have certain managers below them to handle admin etc and I would also imagine Del boy will be having some words with those responsible for their shortcomings.They can’t and wont man manage each job at the club – micro managing is the quickest way to get yourself in trouble…delegation is key.

    I also don’t see how spending more time in Newcastle will help move transfers along, which seems to be most people’s issue with them at present.

    Sorry if it seems I’m battling with you, I just personally find your attitude towards the board a little out dated now. I get they have caused grief for the fans and relegation was a bitter pill to swallow, we are now however a lot stronger than we have been in a good long while and are once again competing near the top. Slow and steady progress is the aim and we seem to be right on track.

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  • LooneyToon41

    Aug 10, 2012 at 11:40 AM

    Comment #40

    @38. Ibizatoon. Well said, a good point well made.
    @36. paw1250. I’m not totally convinced, there’s a complete answer to the 4-4-2 v 4-2-3-1 formation question. It depends on the opposition.

    4-4-2 Last season.
    Stoke away 3-1 win. All about stopping their wingers putting in crosses, great win and Guti MoM.
    ManU 2-0 win. Worked very well, although described by Pards as a gamble.
    Spurs 5-0 defeat. We got murdered. Pards ‘a gamble that didn’t pay off’
    If’s and buts, but no definitive answer imo.

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