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Coloccini And Tiote Both Injured At Cardiff City

12:38 am, Sunday, August 12th, 2012 by Ed Harrison · 107 Comments

It turns out that when Cheick Tiote was taken off in the second half yesterday at Cardiff City, he had suffered a calf strain, and it is now touch and go whether he will be fit for next Saturday’s first game of the season, at home to Tottenham.

Cheick Tiote – in action at Swansea last season

Newcastle are already likely to be without their other central midfielder Yohan  Cabaye for that game, as the French International  missed yesterday’s game, and he wasn’t even on the bench.

And Coloccini was taken off at half time,  and it seems that he also suffered a knock.

Newcastle manager Alan Pardew had this to say after the game about his Ivory Coast International midfielder and his captain Coloccini:

“Chieck has a calf strain so we will have to monitor him. We are sweating on him for next Saturday.”  “Colo also has a knock but I’m not sure how that is. He is due to travel to Argentina but we will have to assess him, too.”

It’s unlikely that Newcastle will allow Fabricio to even travel for the Argentina game in Germany this coming Wednesday, if he has suffered a knock in yesterday’s game.

And news after the game that Demba Ba and Papiss Cisse did not make the trip to South Wales,  because they had both picked up slight knocks in training last week.

Newcastle have done well so far in containing injuries over the summer, and we hope the injuries to Tiote, Coloccini, Demba Ba and Cisse are only minor,  and that all four will be available for the Spurs game on Saturday.

We also hope that’s true with Yohan Cabaye, but that looks more unlikely.

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107 responses so far ↓

  • 1 yorkshireToon // Aug 12, 2012 at 12:43 AM

    Please sign a centre half this can only make the bosses see we need back up

  • 2 PompeyJohn // Aug 12, 2012 at 12:43 AM

    Very worrying news, message to the board – get moving on transfers or our PL chances will be over before they have started!

  • 3 ToonDownSouth // Aug 12, 2012 at 12:44 AM

    Jack

    But every day I’m reading about us needing to push for CL places – it’s just not going to happen.

    In my opinion, I’m glad some on here don’t run the club, else we’d likely follow Leeds. All this talk about ‘Spending now will make Ashley loads of money when we get CL football’.

    We won’t get CL football – the monopoly at the top of the PL basically guarantees that!

  • 4 PompeyJohn // Aug 12, 2012 at 12:47 AM

    Are any other TOON exiles planning on going to Cheers bar on George St, Sydney next Sun morning to watch the match?

  • 5 JackButler // Aug 12, 2012 at 12:49 AM

    TDS

    I’m with you on that mate, we’ve had one good season and now we need to stabilise, add two or three players to strengthen the squad and with the players we’ve brought in over the past two years we’ve shown that we don’t need to invest stupid money anymore, those days are well and truly over..
    If we were able to bring in the likes of Debuchy and Douglas for around the 11/12 million mark and add a young striker from lower league football I’d be more than happy going into the new season.

  • 6 Sholadona // Aug 12, 2012 at 12:50 AM

    Apparently the new Four Four Two season preview described our fans as ‘insatiable’, ‘demanding’ and have ‘huge expectations’, and although it may seem the typical or lazy response, some of you are proving them right.

    We really can’t let ourselves down if we don’t get top 4 or even top 6!

  • 7 NUFC_LEAZES END // Aug 12, 2012 at 12:50 AM

    Sick of life me like

  • 8 ToonDownSouth // Aug 12, 2012 at 12:51 AM

    JB

    Agreed. I’m not suggesting we shouldn’t buy any players, and it’ll be a f’ing joke if we don’t make at least one defensive addition (looks like Debuchy is over tbh), but it’s not the end of the world if we keep building slowly.

  • 9 Sholadona // Aug 12, 2012 at 12:52 AM

    I do agree though, that we need 1 or two more first teamers signed up but we don’t need to spend massive or we could find ourselves in deeper trouble if it all goes tits up

  • 10 JackButler // Aug 12, 2012 at 12:54 AM

    TDS

    I honestly can’t find a fault with the way the club is being run, we’re not wasting money anymore on transfers or wages and our youth structure is pretty special tbh.
    anywhere inside the top 10 this season and I’ll be a happy man

  • 11 NUFC_LEAZES END // Aug 12, 2012 at 12:54 AM

    @sholadona

    Cudnt give a flying f**k what four four two think about us. We all know we are all loyal, passionate fans. So ‘four four two’ can go suck on my left testicle.

  • 12 ToonDownSouth // Aug 12, 2012 at 12:56 AM

    Also, none of these players joined with the expectation of CL football. So to suggest that every single one of them would leave if we didn’t get it is beyond ridiculous.

  • 13 JackButler // Aug 12, 2012 at 12:57 AM

    Thunder storms kicking in big time down here lads, gotta go

  • 14 BelfastMagpie87 // Aug 12, 2012 at 12:57 AM

    Yo Butler put a sock in it…

  • 15 NUFC_LEAZES END // Aug 12, 2012 at 12:57 AM

    @sholadona

    Cudnt give a flying f*uck what four four two say about us.
    We all know that we are loyal, passionate fans, so ‘four four two’ can go suck my left testicle.

  • 16 NUFC_LEAZES END // Aug 12, 2012 at 12:58 AM

    Sorry for the bad language lads

  • 17 yorkshireToon // Aug 12, 2012 at 1:01 AM

    Toondownsouth – we can’t build this slowly because if we have just one mediocre season finishing 10th the likes of tiotes, cabaye, cisse, ba will not stay. I’m not saying we need 30 mill and champions league but atleast 20 spent getting 8 back of we sold simo and the rest that have gone that’s only 12 mill investment on say debuchy, Douglas, Anita and a cheap young striker (Carr special)

  • 18 Sholadona // Aug 12, 2012 at 1:03 AM

    @Leazes They do this every year, I think it’s the typical response they write because they just assume that’s what Newcastle fans are like.

    I just think a few people need to dampen down their expectations for next season. we have a great squad that could get at least 7th or 8th but I wouldn’t be angry if we didn’t finish in the top 6 this season

  • 19 ToonDownSouth // Aug 12, 2012 at 1:05 AM

    There is nooooo way we’ll finish 10th. Not a chance!

  • 20 chris_g // Aug 12, 2012 at 1:06 AM

    On topic, I suspect those ‘injuries’ to Colo and Tiote are just an excuse so they don’t need to be involved in the upcoming international games. And the ‘slight knocks’ that Ba and Cisse are supposed to have picked up in training sound a bit iffy to me as well. The only player that I’m a bit worried about injury-wise is Cabaye.

  • 21 PompeyJohn // Aug 12, 2012 at 1:08 AM

    I don’t think many people are saying to spend silly money but surely just over £6m for a great international full back is a decent deal. I doubted we could even get him for that after his showing at euros. Quibling over a million or two on Douglas is not on the scale of previously overpriced purchases. We needed players in 2/3 weeks ago so they could gel. What must some of the senior players be thinking about NUFC aspirations. Some of them are probably not gust eanting to stabilize.

  • 22 Banjo // Aug 12, 2012 at 1:08 AM

    yorkshiretoon if you think we can get 8 million out of Simpson you must be mad

  • 23 yorkshireToon // Aug 12, 2012 at 1:09 AM

    If we don’t sign a centre half and both collocini and Taylor are injured for long periods of the season we would be lucky to get 10th as we don’t have the back up

  • 24 NUFC_LEAZES END // Aug 12, 2012 at 1:09 AM

    @sholadona

    It’s probably some uptight, snobby Londoner, who thinks he’s ‘top dog’, that writes there shitty articles. Anyway, yeah I agrees about the top 8 finish it would be nice like.
    Worst possible outcome that I can accept is finishing above Sunderland, even if it’s finishing 12th or 15th or 9th. As long as we finish above the scumbags

  • 25 SuperShearer // Aug 12, 2012 at 1:10 AM

    Certain publications refuse to actually listen to Newcastle fans. We’re only demanding in the sense we want to see our player give their all and wear the shirt with pride. I would happily take a top 8th finish this season as long as we play to our best ability. Beat the teams we’re better than and give a performance against those better than us. I defy any fan of any club not to say they expect the same of their team. Last term showed what we’re capable of, but that was around underperforming teams like Chelski and Liverpool, I expect those to to finish above us.

  • 26 yorkshireToon // Aug 12, 2012 at 1:13 AM

    It was 8 million in total with Forster and best

  • 27 Banjo // Aug 12, 2012 at 1:18 AM

    ah i see, i apologise

    on a similar subject, how people rate Simpson is beyond me, makes way too many mistakes too often

  • 28 JayToon4life // Aug 12, 2012 at 1:25 AM

    simpson was crap today and gave the ball away too much…well he passed to obertan so same thing!!!what a sunny day…cardiff fans were a good laugh!!

  • 29 Kc-Toon // Aug 12, 2012 at 1:25 AM

    @Banjo
    I dont feel anyone actually rates him as a very good player at all. He gets alot of harsh critisism from this blog atleast, and those who see him as an average player, which he is , will defend him. Hes not awfull, He can defend, and hes bearable with the ball at his feet

  • 30 nufc90 // Aug 12, 2012 at 1:32 AM

    He deserves some support for the amount of points we kept from him clearing off the line… Hate seeing our own players getting bashed

  • 31 Banjo // Aug 12, 2012 at 1:37 AM

    don’t get me wrong, i’m not bashing him, i’ve often defended him for being ‘alright’ and not of a lower division level. he just isn’t up to standard with the majority of the team

    but he does make too many mistakes, often lets people past him, which is the arguably the most important factor in a full back

  • 32 toonLYF // Aug 12, 2012 at 1:53 AM

    hmm so the team could look like this

    ————————Krul————————

    Simpson—–Taylor—–Williamson—–Santon

    ————–Gosling——-Jonas—————-

    Ben Arfa————Obertan———-Marveaux

    ———————-Ameobi———————-

    …not the worst team but looks considerably weaker without the demba’s captain colo and the cabs/tiote partnership

  • 33 Kc-Toon // Aug 12, 2012 at 1:56 AM

    For me, Simmo and Guti are struggling to prove their first team players for the club. Id have more confidence playing Bigi in that Cdm role rather than Guti, Even if he has 10 years less experience! If a team such as Norwich or Sunderland, Hoofball kind of teams came in for simpson, im sure he’d do fairly well, But as you say, He dosnt have the confidence of passing the ball around like the players around him, He just dosnt suit that style of play were aiming for. He does a decent job..But Bring on debuchy! haha

  • 34 pbNcl // Aug 12, 2012 at 2:04 AM

    Cardiff? Pre season? Don’t care don’t matter. We’ve already won a trophy. We kick off next weekend, and injuries to loads of players? Seems like the newcastle mind games have begun. Anybody else notice that we seem to operate on a pretty low frequency, proper stealth 5hit. I’m expecting some big moves soon and I expect our lads to be a different calibre for spuds. Never mind all this negative crap, let’s be havin it

  • 35 Tiotes_Stuntdouble // Aug 12, 2012 at 2:18 AM

    Pompeyjohn…I’ll be there. What times the game on over here?

  • 36 arroeben // Aug 12, 2012 at 2:35 AM

    All of these injuries are simply mind games. How can 4 of our big guns be injured together. That would be like Ed’s april fools joke!

  • 37 Zebras4Life // Aug 12, 2012 at 2:35 AM

    F’n great. No F’n depth either. Now no F’n leverage in transfer market. Way to go front office. So tired of this lack of ambition BS. We all knew all along that were thin. We need to sign Anita, Toivenon, & Douglas. Anita can play FB and CM immediately and Toivenon can play CM and ST. Douglas and anyone for that matter are better than Willo. Oh and for all you its not ur money or Willo is good. Save ur breathe they are F’n worthless. Cardiff Cunny are you F’n me right now. Class teams mop lower level squads. My patience is up and I’m just F’n irate. Where is my Johnny Walker?!?! And where are our 1st team signings!

  • 38 BmoreToonFan // Aug 12, 2012 at 2:41 AM

    So we could possibly be without Colo, Tiote, Ben Arfa, Cabaye, Demba, and Papiss??

    Yikes

  • 39 nufc90 // Aug 12, 2012 at 2:41 AM

    Jesus has someone been on the beer?
    Chilllllllll

  • 40 nufc90 // Aug 12, 2012 at 2:42 AM

    Ramadan finishes soon I think so hopefully Ben arfa, Cisse, ba will be fine

  • 41 davybtoon // Aug 12, 2012 at 2:44 AM

    With our fans we won’t ever achieve anything they want everything now hav no patience n are to hungry for success we won’t hav a manager long enough to build something special bcoz the fans think they kno best well am sorry but we don’t n a top 6-7 finish will b a great season

  • 42 chris_g // Aug 12, 2012 at 2:45 AM

    In all these discussions about bringing in new players I’ve noticed there’s one thing that NEVER gets mentioned – ie. the 25-man squad rule Why is that? Is it because nobody has heard of it? Or is it just because nobody thinks it’s very important? Either way, you end up with idiots on this blog telling people that we desperately need to bring in 3, 4 even 5 new top players to strengthen the squad, when they obviously don’t have a clue how many senior players we’ve already got, and whether we’ve actually got any spare places available in our 25-man quota.

    Another thing that everybody completely ignores is the fact that we’ve got a hell of a lot of promising players under the age of 21 who currently don’t need to be named in our 25-man squad, but who will need their names to be added over the next 2 or 3 years as they turn 21. How the hell are we going to find room for all our top youngsters if we keep filling up our 25 man quota with older players brought in from outside? Well, as far as I can see, the only way you can do it is firstly, to limit the number of senior players that you bring in, and secondly, to allow a number of senior players to leave without being replaced – or rather, bringing in a few younger players instead (like Good and Bigi, for example) who won’t need to be named in the squad until a few years down the track.

    It seems to me that the people who are running the club know exactly what they’re doing, and it’s a pity that some of the fans on here don’t put their brains in gear before they go off to start sharpening the pitchforks.

    Rant over

  • 43 pawl250 // Aug 12, 2012 at 2:49 AM

    Half of you do demand too much! Ive said it for weeks now! You think we ‘deserve’ to be in Europe every season! 1 season finishing 5th doesn’t mean anything just look at Villa who finished in a similar position a few years back! The end of the season will look like this
    1st to 5th – (any order) – Man City, Arsenal, Spurs (1 striker away from a really strong squad) , Man Utd and Chelsea.

    Liverpool will be roundabouts 6th 7th as always then you have teams like Fulham, Everton who will push to be in top 10.

    With us in Europe (hopefully) we can exepect a slow start! I wont be suprised if we have maybe 1-3 points on the board 3 games into the season!

    We cannot expect to win games at Chelsea when we are glove trotting!

    And if we get injuries we have a very mid table side behind our starting line up!

    Please think about why you are saying top 4 or 6 finish!! And realise the size of our support has nothing to do with a top 4 finish!!

    Pressure works in weird ways maybe finishing 5th happened to early from relegation and people have just assumed we are great again!

    We are a good side, that over achieved last year! Whilst other teams around us under achieved!!

  • 44 BmoreToonFan // Aug 12, 2012 at 3:00 AM

    How come noone ever talks about the Slovakian lad we signed in May, Lubomir Satka? I can’t remember if Ed has even mentioned us signing him… Anyone know anything about him?

  • 45 arroeben // Aug 12, 2012 at 3:00 AM

    Our first game on the 18th is the last day of Ramadhan!

  • 46 Kc-Toon // Aug 12, 2012 at 3:40 AM

    @Bmore
    There was a fair bit of talk when he had signed, Yet he aint mentioned on a daily basis as hes only 16, So theres a few years still to come before hes considerd close to the first team. A few months back a young academy team won the soccer sevens, And he impressed a fair bit, but thats the last i heard of him. I would mind seeing a partnership of Satka Streete at the back in the future

  • 47 AMEOBI // Aug 12, 2012 at 3:47 AM

    Nonsense, tiotes fit and so is Colo.

  • 48 magpiebop // Aug 12, 2012 at 3:59 AM

    Stop taking the water in over a bloody friendly!

  • 49 Zebras4Life // Aug 12, 2012 at 4:08 AM

    Really some of you…??? It takes time? We are very close and have a fantastic side. We DO need to sign at minimum 3 1st team players and we will at least secure Europe. This brings in nice coin and gives youngins experience at a high level. Its necessity that we qualify for any level of europe next season if we wish to progress. Our new REASONABLE model is that of Dortmund, Ajax, & even Arsenal but is a must to secure high level potential talent year in and year out! 1.5M#’s isnt going to cut it. If anything reinvest the Carroll fee! Out!

  • 50 Charlietoon // Aug 12, 2012 at 4:19 AM

    TDS how can you say that when we missed a champions league spot bu what 4 points??

  • 51 BmoreToonFan // Aug 12, 2012 at 4:20 AM

    @kc

    Thanks, I forgot he was 16.. Makes sense that noone really talks about him.

    God I’m desperate for a signing :)

  • 52 Zebras4Life // Aug 12, 2012 at 4:37 AM

    I think even Pardew is desperate for a signing!

  • 53 putra_hayzad // Aug 12, 2012 at 5:04 AM

    Vs spurs without them .
    Gk-krul
    RB-simpson
    CB-saylor and mike
    Left-santon or raylor
    RM-amalfitano
    CM-gosling and bigirimana
    LM-marveux
    CF-vuckic and ameobi

  • 54 pizzicatochan // Aug 12, 2012 at 5:38 AM

    BmoreToonFan, Lubo is too thin for EPL at this moment. He would need to add some weight.

    Good and Tav can still challenge the CB positions.

  • 55 pizzicatochan // Aug 12, 2012 at 5:41 AM

    KC, Lubo + Streete is a good partnership. Here is what I think for the future:

    LB – Dummett, Good, Santon
    CB – Lubo, Streete, Saylor, Good, Tav
    RB – Santon, Tav

    I see the future from here.

  • 56 Transfer Sage // Aug 12, 2012 at 5:41 AM

    I know this is not goin to happen, but would lie a team like this next year.

    ————-krul————–
    Debuchy–Saylor–colo—pieters
    —————–tiote————-
    ——–cabaye——-marvoux——
    Santon————————-benny
    ——————–cisse—————–

  • 57 ashwin say's // Aug 12, 2012 at 6:52 AM

    transfer sage
    affeliey in place of santon

  • 58 ash1001 // Aug 12, 2012 at 7:06 AM

    All this talk about do we ‘need additions ot the squad’ simple answer is YES WE DO, and we need them now, particularly in certain positions.
    None of us as fans have a clue as to the real story behind any of the headlines that have been doing the round recently, but facts are facts we aint scored a lot of goals in pre-season and now have conceded a hatful in one game with what could be described as the best possible defense we could put out, and remeber this is the first British team we have played in pre-seson exc Hartlepool and they have conceded 2 lots of 5 in there last two games.
    AP says an awful lot about this and that but its on the field where the reults are created and in my opinion we still need players in – 18 days to deadline day and only youngsters through the door and a ANC competition in the New Year + Europe. the strentgh in depth is not there.
    PS when does Ramedan end, maybe thats why Cisse, Ba, Benny were missing yesterday.

  • 59 samuelwongsl // Aug 12, 2012 at 7:27 AM

    No senior signings… Guess it will be a tough initial weeks for us.

  • 60 ROSHAN MAGPIE // Aug 12, 2012 at 7:35 AM

    lads please all join to fantasy premier league League code: 78278-39466

  • 61 jesperfuglsang // Aug 12, 2012 at 7:41 AM

    You are not going to hear Pardew say he is frustrated because he is our manager and of all people he has to stay calm and focused; but of course he’s frustrated as hell with the lack of first team signings :-/

    I think he has been frustrated for a while now. I like Pardew, but I do think he seems to have ahard time putting is foot down when he really needs to.

    Well infront of the top that is ;-) but maybe this supposed injuries we has sustained could be the thing we need to get the transfers rolling :-)

  • 62 Ian Toon // Aug 12, 2012 at 7:51 AM

    Aside from the outbreak of negativity this is the side I could imagine
    us turning out come early September:
    Krul
    Debuchy. . Colo. Douglas/ Saylor. Santon

    Tiote Anita

    Ben Arfa. Cabaye Jonas/ Marv

    Cisse

    Certain opposition would not warrant so many flair/ technical players
    and Jonas would provide the counter balance.

  • 63 dave 1961 // Aug 12, 2012 at 7:55 AM

    nufc90
    ramadam finishes 30th august

  • 64 jesperfuglsang // Aug 12, 2012 at 7:56 AM

    Well Ian, there a slight problem ;-)

    Neither Dreamboat #2, Bramble #2 or Seedorf #2 has signed for us B-)

    So you could end up fielding only 8 next weekend ;-) lol

  • 65 eaststandgeordie1982 // Aug 12, 2012 at 7:59 AM

    Seems like ashley is to busy to get a deal done at rangers than sort players out for HIS team

  • 66 dave 1961 // Aug 12, 2012 at 8:03 AM

    sorry correction that was 2011 its 21 august 2012
    ramadam finishes but it varies in different countries.

  • 67 Ian Toon // Aug 12, 2012 at 8:04 AM

    Let’s get a sense of perspective with Simpson, Williamson, Raylor , Perch, Obertan, and Shola . Whilst not in our wish for formations they are squad players and it makes no sense to continually deride them.

  • 68 Ian Toon // Aug 12, 2012 at 8:08 AM

    Ramadan finishes on the 18th August – start of our season.

  • 69 dave 1961 // Aug 12, 2012 at 8:13 AM

    for a normal healthy individual it takes just 3 days for the body to recover from ramadam.

  • 70 Ian Toon // Aug 12, 2012 at 8:15 AM

    Jesper – Gidday hope your confidence for a good season is not influenced by yesterday’s result. I desperately turn to Ibiza’s response ( pretty much too everything-LOL) It’s just the if’s and but’s
    of pre season . Same goes for apparent injuries.
    Hope you have a good day- catch up later.

  • 71 Ian Toon // Aug 12, 2012 at 8:22 AM

    Jesper- Keep the faith. Still see us getting your mark 2′s over the line.
    Anita could well be in our starting eleven come Saturday. Byee

  • 72 jesperfuglsang // Aug 12, 2012 at 8:24 AM

    Hej Ian,
    god dag til dig også ;-)

    I am always confident but with a slight worry ;-) lol

  • 73 Toon73 // Aug 12, 2012 at 8:49 AM

    Those saying that Good is going to able to provide cover at CB this season need to stand up and step away from the keyboard.

    He only had his first full season in the a-league last year ffs !!

  • 74 Premiership Manager // Aug 12, 2012 at 8:54 AM

    Our Current Squad in order of players in first team

    Goal keepers

    Krull

    Subs
    Harper
    Elliot

    Defence

    Simpson
    S Taylor
    Collo
    Santon

    Subs

    Perch
    Willo
    R Taylor
    Tavernier
    Good

    Midfield

    Cabaye
    Tiote
    Marvaux
    Jonas

    Subs
    Gosling
    Bigurmana
    Obertan
    Ferguson
    Amalfitano
    Abeid
    Vuckic

    Forwards

    Cisse
    Ba
    HBA
    Shola
    Ranger

    Looking at the squad Gosling was tipped as one of the most promising midfielders in Europe but has been out injured and should see more football this year.

    HBA will be difficult to fit in the team at the start of every game however if his alround game keeps improving he will be difficult to leave out.

    Perch will have to step up to the mark this year if we do not sign an international CB however if S Taylor can stay fit he and Collo will be a formidable pairing

    Although Simpson has his knockers he does a good job and can cross the ball.

    Santon is still young but for me could play anywhere in midfield and I honestly feel he is wasted as a LB/RB as he would be an ideal holding player due to his vision, distribution and passing ability.

    Marvaux will be a big player for us next year.

    Up front I wouldn’t be surprised to see HBA play along side Cisse or Ba as it will be difficult to accomodate him in midfield unless we play 4-5-1 or 4-3-3.

    As far as I am concerned we have a good squad that should be good for a top 6 finish, however the reason we did well last year is that we had a settled squad and the first team were built around the same starting 11 based on merit which is the correct way to do it with a small squad.

    No one has even mentioned Pardew. He will have a hard job keeping everybody happy and last year he did get his tactics wrong on more than one occasion, however he is still learning and getting to know his players, their strengths and their attributes and it willbe interesting to see how we get on this season.

    Although people say that we need this player and that player, I’ve looked at some of the youth players and we are at the stage where they now need first team football.

    If we continue to buy new players without bringing the youth players through we will suffer in the long term.

    The AN is a worry but we have Ranger and Campbell who may also be thrown into the mix.

    Although I’d like to see a CF and CB signed before the window closes, if we don’t sign anybody I won’t lose too much sleep as our current squad is good enough for a top six finish which is a realistic target.

  • 75 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 12, 2012 at 8:56 AM

    Good morning

    Eastand @64 – You really don’t know what the delays are with regards to transfers, but are really quick to assume it’s Ashley and his buying into Rangers.

    I can to a degree get people’s frustration at lack of activity, but just wish people would give the blame game a break, as well as the whole “2-3 players guarantees us CL”.

    We have the ability to beat Spurs as it is. It also wouldn’t shock me to get beat by them. Such is football and Newcastle United. No amount of signings will change that at the end of the day, it’s a sport and is unpredictable.

    Take PSG last night. Conceded 2 goals, then got 2 back. Now, shouldn’t they have just wiped the floor after the money they invested and the players they have? No, it’s football. Sometimes the will and belief of a “team” for outweighs the benefit of a group of “talented players”.

    Maybe I’m just a fan of the underdogs, but hey, Newcastle are currently the underdogs and seem to be thriving with that title.

  • 76 cyprus // Aug 12, 2012 at 8:57 AM

    This spanking, from a mere championship side, believe it or not will do us a world of good:
    * We do need strengthening
    *We have not resolved the ‘let’s concede 5 this week’ syndrome
    * Saylor may come good, but he hardly ever plays. (I have no doubt of his passion, still doubt his ability. He in defence took us down, the maligned Simpson in defence took us up). We need a CB more than a RB or LB,although we need a solid one of those too
    * Ben Arfa is not a luxury whom AP will decide in which games he will use, as he said a couple of weeks ago. It’s analogous to Real using Ronaldo just occasionally
    * Your Obertans and Saylors and cheap purchases will probably not take you to the next level.
    *Needed now: Small, sharp forward. Two wingers, two defenders

  • 77 davybtoon // Aug 12, 2012 at 8:57 AM

    So we’re linked with ola toivonen n he was left out of psv squad

  • 78 PompeyJohn // Aug 12, 2012 at 8:58 AM

    Tiotes_Stu
    Program starts @ 0200 game @ 0230.

  • 79 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 12, 2012 at 9:00 AM

    Maybe, I got sidetracked there and started rambling a bit….might need some coffee.

  • 80 PompeyJohn // Aug 12, 2012 at 9:00 AM

    Tiotes_Stu
    Program starts at 0200 game at 0230.

  • 81 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 12, 2012 at 9:03 AM

    Cyrpus…We need 2 wingers now?

    Also, Correct me If I am wrong, but wasn’t Colo part of the same team as STaylor that took us down?

  • 82 jesperfuglsang // Aug 12, 2012 at 9:04 AM

    Ibiza…some of us have been up since the break of dawn :( lol

  • 83 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Aug 12, 2012 at 9:05 AM

    Cyprus, Ibiza, premiership…
    Well said. Very good points that every needs to take into consideration from all of you.
    HOWEVER
    those posts were far too serious for this blog. As such I shall now return it too its natural order.

    WE GOT BEAT BY A CHALPIONSHIP SIDE SO WE WILL NOW GET RELEGATED AND THEN RELEGATED TO LEAGUE ONE. MILE ASHLEY IS GOING TO SELL KRUL BA COLO SANTON HBA CABAYE BA CISSE ETC TO RANGERS AND LEAVE US WOTH NOBODY. AAAAAAAAAGGGGHHH WE LOST A FRIENDLY NOW WE WILL ALL DIEEEEEEEE!!

    Ahem.. Yeah.

    Goodbye

  • 84 Londtoon // Aug 12, 2012 at 9:08 AM

    Does this not sound suspicious to anybody else? All our internationals bar krul pick up knocks ahead of Wednesday friendlies? That’s what I hope for anyway

  • 85 Les Grossman // Aug 12, 2012 at 9:08 AM

    Cyprus
    Typical post from a far off so called fan!
    Slagging players off does not make you a fan, it helps you into the minority clique of morons who use long words and inane sentences to make you sound as if you know what your talking about!
    ‘Steven Taylor took us down’? So with your mentality as did collo?
    Had nowt to do with the other 9-10 players, was Steven Taylor’s fault?

    Honestly, why bother coming onto a blog about NUFC in order to slag players?

    Silly boy

  • 86 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 12, 2012 at 9:08 AM

    Jesper…Was working until quite late last night or should I say until early this morning….

    Just a little bit of work today though…..hurrah! :)

  • 87 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 12, 2012 at 9:13 AM

    The Wizard…..Thanks for that. Forgot where I was for a brief moment :)

    Londtoon….It stinks of lies to me mate….I too am hoping so anyway. I’m all for our players getting International games etc, especially Colo, but howay, we’ve got some important games the next few weeks and need our star performers ready.

    Les…I agree with the content of what you said (Obviously, as it’s pretty much what I just said too :) ). Did “far off” mean fans from overseas?

  • 88 Les Grossman // Aug 12, 2012 at 9:13 AM

    Cyprus
    That’s all I will say on the matter. As people like you do not deserve blog space! So I shall ensure your blog space is minimal by not resounding to any of your future posts and would urge others to afford you the same treatment!

    Slagging individual players is NOT what the blog is about. And after a friendly!

    #facepalm

  • 89 cyprus // Aug 12, 2012 at 9:13 AM

    Ibiza,
    yes on both counts. On wingers, Ben Arfa is good enough but he doesn’t want that position, hence his arguments at Marseilles. On defence, I hope Saylor (or coaches) cure his injuries or else we are looking at a ‘Dyer situation’. Teams can only be based on players who play. Same with Ameobi, I’ve always been critical because he never scores and that can’t win games (unless it’s pens). Despite his skill, he’s always been battling injuries, hence the ups and downs. Conclusion: One can’t count on him either.

  • 90 eaststandgeordie1982 // Aug 12, 2012 at 9:16 AM

    Ibiza nobody knows what the delays are but you must think this business with rangers has took his eye off just a little bit, just peed off that we aint got more defenders in we have been short of quality at the back for years and i just dont understand why nothing is being done.

  • 91 cyprus // Aug 12, 2012 at 9:17 AM

    Les Grosman,
    You seem new on this blog and probably quite young, given your name calling. Still , I respect your opinion, you may even be right. I reserve my own.

  • 92 Les Grossman // Aug 12, 2012 at 9:17 AM

    Ibiza
    Nah, could have worded it better but as I’ve just awoken from a drunken slumber, I was not at my best! Far off as a fan can be for slagging one of their own!

    Though, I may add, I’m presuming the dissenter in question is in Cyprus, so maybe? But I believe no matter where you are in the world you have a god given right to support your boys in black n white stripes!!!!!!

    Speech complete! I’m Awake…..

  • 93 geordie157 // Aug 12, 2012 at 9:18 AM

    This may well be the chance got gosling to stake his claim. Gosling and abeid with bigi and the bench.

  • 94 geordie157 // Aug 12, 2012 at 9:18 AM

    For not got. Damn predictive text

  • 95 hoppernufc // Aug 12, 2012 at 9:19 AM

    In a way this defeat may of done us good in the way of transfers, anh hopefully we could get someone in before spuds match, just hope all our injured players return for that match or it could be another walk in the park for spuds

  • 96 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 12, 2012 at 9:19 AM

    Cyrpus…You seem to have studiously avoided the other main point, both Les and I asked.

    ” Saylor may come good, but he hardly ever plays. (I have no doubt of his passion, still doubt his ability. He in defence took us down”

    Please can you let us know what you mean here?

    On the wingers point, I do remember hearing that from Benny at some point, however, realistically, Wingers are the last type of player I see us getting at the moment.

    I would think most would agree to the following order of purchases.

    CB, ST and FB. We have enough cover against quality everywhere else for now, not saying the areas cannot be improved, they’re just not so costly over a long season.

    Well, that’s my opinion anyway.

  • 97 rainrix // Aug 12, 2012 at 9:21 AM

    Wow wake up and see this. Can we starr to panic now?

  • 98 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 12, 2012 at 9:23 AM

    Les…So I don’t need to come and give you a quick good morning slap from foreign shores? :)

    mmmm…that caffeine is starting to do it’s job….GOOD MORNING WORLD.

    eaststand….No one knows is exactly my point. For all we know the deals are 95% there and the delay has nothing to do with us, so all i’m saying, in light of how we’ve all been proved wrong with regards to Ashley a few times (granted he has too dropped a few howlers), can we not give them the benefit of doubt for now and save the anger until they have actually done something wrong?

  • 99 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 12, 2012 at 9:24 AM

    Rain…No. No panic. JUST DON’T PANIC!!!! AAAHuhgbjdnnuiyus!

  • 100 Les Grossman // Aug 12, 2012 at 9:26 AM

    Cyprus
    I’m 45
    Name calling?
    I placed you in a minority group that lets face it, picking on an individual and blaming one in a team sport could be named any number of things, I chose the most polite!

    I wouldn’t exactly say silly boy is name calling? It’s actually a factual statement!!

    Get yourself on with the mackems lad, they like to slag OUR players also! No real difference is there? Blaming one player for a football clubs Downfall??? Does tend to show up your true capacity of knowledge for the beautiful game and more so for our club!

    Any smart arses who say ‘ thought you weren’t gonna speak to him’ can just take a HUGE step back ………. And F11ck your own face!

    ;-)

  • 101 eaststandgeordie1982 // Aug 12, 2012 at 9:26 AM

    Ibiza i hope he pulls of some coups over the next couple of weeks we all know he can do it.

  • 102 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 12, 2012 at 9:29 AM

    eaststand….That’s more like it :)

    Mike Ashley…Please don’t leave me to receive loads of abuse come deadline day….please.

    Les…Well you did say you wouldn’t ;)

  • 103 cyprus // Aug 12, 2012 at 9:31 AM

    I’m not sure what you mean Ibiza and I don’t want to bring back frustrating memories. So, I’ll let you know what was on my mind and then drop it: Our defence when we went down consisted of 4-5 players, all error-prone and all quite poor. Every time another team attacked we were all over the place and hanging on, you may painfully recall. Well, he was part of that 4, so at least a quarter of the blame goes to him, is all. Simpson can’t take any blame for us going down, but he can claim a quarter (or less or more) of the credit of the last two years.

    For the record, my main point is basically that you can’t build on and count on injury-prone players. Hope I’m wrong about the lad and his injuries, but he’s 26 already.

  • 104 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Aug 12, 2012 at 9:32 AM

    As I said yesterday about the defeat, it’s the cunning silver foxes mind games at work again. He’s going to beat AVB’s Spurs singlehanded using his jedi mind tricks.

    We just got beat Ahh heck I can’t remember what score it was its too early. Anyway, we just got heavily beaten from a lower team, our two key midfielders aren’t “match fit” and now ba cisse tiote colo are injured aswell.
    I’m sorry, but we simply aren’t that unlucky.
    As far as I see it, there are three scenarios
    That will play out on Saturday.
    1. Spurs let their guard down, think we have a weaker side and BOOM fully fit starting 11 to tear them to shreds.
    2. We start a weaker side (no cabaye ben arfa cisse)!but contain them defensively, roll by half time and BOOM talk about impact sun and we tear them to pieces.
    3. Our players genuinely are injured and Ben Arfa and cabaye aren’t fit an we wil more than likely get torn to pieces.

    It’s too early on this beautiful grey cold Newcastle morning to be filled with pessimism so I’m officialy ruling out number 3.
    That leaves us with a fully fit squad, who don’t have to play international games 3
    Days before the spuds game, ready and
    Raring to go.

    I have seen the future and dan gosling will score the winner for us… It has been posted and so it shall be done.

  • 105 Les Grossman // Aug 12, 2012 at 9:38 AM

    Cyprus.
    I am speechless!
    I honestly thought you blamed staylor for taking us down!!
    I’m the silly one, and Simpson for bringing us up?
    For a moment…. Just a moment…. I thought maybe the same defense that took us down, shy of a bassong of course, brought us back up??

    But it was Taylor who took us down, Simpson brought us up!

    Keep digging……

  • 106 Billythefish // Aug 12, 2012 at 9:39 AM

    We will defo sign players in positions we need to, the club will wait as the closer to the end of the window clubs start negotiating about transfers, ashley knows that if he waits the clubs will let players go who are wanting to move. Also we save money not much but it’s true, if we sign 3 players near the end of the window the fees are usually cheaper also we have saved maybe 1/2 a million on 2 months wages.

  • 107 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 12, 2012 at 9:43 AM

    Cyrpus…Well, if you don’t know what I mean, perhaps it’s best we just leave it there and move on, im sure we have better things to do that banging our heads against walls…well I hope so anyway.

    THE WIZARD HAS SPOKEN ;)

    Quick read of next thread then to the airport I ride!




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