This Is Why Newcastle Need To Sign Debuchy – Soon


Over the weekend Mathieu Debuchy spoke out for the time in a week or so, and said he was still intent on leaving Lille, and we think that Newcastle are still keen on getting him through the door, but the Tyneside club will need to move quickly.

Mathieu Debuchy – Simpson fee will help pay for him

Newcastle have failed to meet Lille’s asking price, but there’s another problem they need to solve that’s related to signing a right back, and that’s to sell Danny Simpson or to get him to sign a new deal.

If nothing happens by the time the transfer window closes three weeks today, then Danny will enter the last year of his contract, and he will become a free agent next summer, and Newcastle will get  nothing for him.

And even if they sell him in January, the price will be reduced because he’ll have only six months left on his contract, and we will not let him go unless we bring in another right back in January as cover.

So why don’t Newcastle bite the bullet and increase their bid for Debuchy, and that will be covered by the extra money they can get for Danny when they sell him this summer?

It’s money Newcastle will lose if they don’t bring in a right back so that Danny can be sold, and of course it doesn’t have to be Debuchy, but we think if Ajax’s Gregory van der Weil had become top choice we’d have heard something about that as part of the Vurnon  Anita deal.

Newcastle are haggling over around £1M, but they’ll lose that if Danny Simpson is not sold this summer, and his value subsequently decreases.

We know this is the way Newcastle think, because it’s pure business, so we do expect Debuchy to brought in before the end of the transfer window.

And as we said it doesn’t have to be Debuchy, but if Mathieu is brought in this month, we could see two new full backs at Newcastle next season  in Mathieu  and Vurnon Anita.

And we saw one headline yesterday about Mathieu throwing his toys out of the pram, but he’s acted very professionally towards the only club he’s ever played for since 2004.

He’s a top class professional which is another reason we should sign him.

What do you think?

Comments welcome – but please respect the opinions of other readers – all opinions are valid – because they are just opinions. 😀

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55 comments so far

  • indian

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:07 AM

    Comment #1

    1st

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:07 AM

    Comment #2

    Comments welcome – but please respect the opionions of other readers – all opinions are valid – because they are just opinions. 😀

    Thanks.

    A new addition Ed? 🙂

    At the end of the day a deal is there to be done I would of thought. Only time will tell how much we really want him.

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  • davybtoon

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:11 AM

    Comment #3

    We have 21 squad members of our 25 allowed Anita will make it 22 so we hav space for 3 more signings unless Simpson goes then its 4

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  • redondo77

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:12 AM

    Comment #4

    I trust Carr, the board trust Carr. It is Carr’s job to bring info about players we are looking for and how high should we bid for those players. It’s Carr’s job to help with decision making, if the player worth 8mil or not.

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  • WWYCD

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:12 AM

    Comment #5

    I dont think we ‘need’ Debuchy there are plenty of other full backs out there who can and will do a job in the PL

    Hes also not the only full back we have been linked with, I think the lack of signings has been because NUFC have been too focused on names rather than players (though I respect what jimmymagpie says and if he has heard rumblings that DL has been unavaliable to the club that could also explain it)

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  • Tsunki

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:13 AM

    Comment #6

    For GT89 I was kidding when I asked Anitas age btw :).

    Let’s see him holding the shirt. No mystery medical failures please.

    Oh and if Jessie J had represented our world cup bid we would have won it. Even if she had worn that entire-body support stocking. Ahem. Also Transfer Sage is a name that engenders tremendous respect. I sift through every article to see where the next UN resolution will take us, what the Chinese are planning with urban resettlement and so on.

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  • tequilamag

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:14 AM

    Comment #7

    Davyb I make it 24 with Anita. Fergie and Tav will not be classed as underage players this year

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  • WWYCD

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:14 AM

    Comment #8

    davy
    We could sell Tiote, Cabaye and Ba then thats 3 more

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  • Beattie25

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:14 AM

    Comment #9

    Debuchy is a consummate profesional.

    Continuing to play despite wanting away, refusing to put a transfer request into his boyhood club, still giving his all for the cause. Wed be lucky to have him.

    Regarding Anita. What does everyone reckon the estimated time of signing will be? Today? Tomorrow? When do you gays think?

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  • redondo77

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:15 AM

    Comment #10

    WWYCD

    are we having garage sale?

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  • Tsunki

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:16 AM

    Comment #11

    Indian – really mate, don’t. Just… Don’t.

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  • Tommyy

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:16 AM

    Comment #12

    I’m going to say tomorrow morning for Anita.

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  • Toon73

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:17 AM

    Comment #13

    Yep I agree !

    While I would have preferred Debuchy through the door, I think business wise we will stump up a small fee for Pieters instead. He can then cover CB and LB without too much issue.

    Then we’ll nail down Toivenon on the last day 🙂

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  • WWYCD

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:18 AM

    Comment #14

    redondo77
    Haha maybe a buy 1 get 1 free offer 😉

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  • Tsunki

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:18 AM

    Comment #15

    Beattie – do you think he is able to do that because he still has hope of a move? It will be a tough season to carry right through if he feels the club have held him back.

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  • numba9

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:19 AM

    Comment #16

    we need to get this lad in asap, he is quality and that is much needed in that position, personally i would rather him than anita and another cb. id go a million over what we last offered i think he will be ours then, he obviously is very keen on the move why are we hanging around? 4 man ure or chelski spurs 2 wade in and grab him????

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  • eaststandgeordie1982

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:19 AM

    Comment #17

    Wwycd

    Buy simmo get ranger free

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  • Dannyo

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:19 AM

    Comment #18

    @Redondo
    We always have a garagesale, we just end up selling the cheap things, and not the expensive like people want.

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  • DevonToon

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:20 AM

    Comment #19

    I was under the impression we had made a double bid but VDW said no because he wanted CL football….

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  • Tsunki

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:20 AM

    Comment #20

    That was a fire sale. If you really wanna scroo the team we should sell Tim. That would be 3 extra spaces right there.

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  • eaststandgeordie1982

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:21 AM

    Comment #21

    Sorry here is my 😉 to go on the end of my last post so people know it was a bit of banter, dont want to get shot down.

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  • davybtoon

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:22 AM

    Comment #22

    Fergie n Tav are under age both only 20 year you have to b over 21 n if your bday is b4 a certain date u still don’t need to b in the squad jus like gosling last year, think we e still got at least 2 seasons b4 tav, fergie, abeid n vukic n sammi need squad places

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  • WWYCD

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:24 AM

    Comment #23

    eaststand
    I like Simmo enough to not want to force him to be in a team with Ranger again 😉 should of been sign Kadar get Ranger free 😀

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  • Kyo

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:25 AM

    Comment #24

    Debuchy how I love you so. If he signs then I’m going to buy his shirt!!

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  • tequilamag

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:25 AM

    Comment #25

    Pretty sure the cut off date is if your 21st is before !st Jan and Tav and Fergie are both before that. Ranger Dunnet In man amd Newton are in same boat, I dont count them because i think first 3 will be loaned out and Ranger either sold or loaned. And of course Xisco but he has no chance of making 25

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  • Belly

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:28 AM

    Comment #26

    I can’t totally understand why we haven’t just given lille what they want. Let’s face it, at 27 Debuchy is in his prime and he’s got one last big contract in him. There’s not really much chance of us selling him unless he’s proved to be an awesome player and Chealski snap him up at twice the price we pay. There’s very little chance of us gaining any profit out of him in the future. I would love to see him come in though. He will surely make Cabaye want to commit his future. His arrival can’t only bring good things for nufc. I still have hope that we can get the deal done but I think the chances are slowly fading. I don’t think he’s the kind of person that will force a move like Ben Arfa.

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  • redondo77

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:29 AM

    Comment #27

    for CB, my wish is Angelo Ogbonna, italian international, age 24, currently with Torino. Big, strong, and quick.

    Santon + girlfriend + another Italian = stay with NUFC until retires 😛

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  • eaststandgeordie1982

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:29 AM

    Comment #28

    Wwycd
    We could send ranger to rangers maybe thats why mike is buying shares his shipping xisco and ranger out 🙂

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  • Toon73

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:30 AM

    Comment #29

    In response to our first major signing of the window, I have ordered my CISSE home shirt. I’m in Oz but will hopefully have it by the Spurs game.

    If Debuchy signs, I can sense a change kit coming up 🙂

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  • Conaldo (The Wizard)

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:31 AM

    Comment #30

    Ibiza @2
    I think that’s Ed’s way of telling some of us off lol. Some right whingers on here yesterday like. 🙂

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  • NUFCWill1986

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:32 AM

    Comment #31

    Do you think we tried santon at rb incase pieters is our backup signing?

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  • jesperfuglsang

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:32 AM

    Comment #32

    I acrually think it is more about how much Debuchy wants this transfer rather how much Newcastle wants it.

    We have agreed a fee once and Lille backed out so I don’t see us changing much; Debuchy needs to put in a transfer request.

    It is within his right just as it was in Seydoux’ rights to reject out offer 🙂

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  • WWYCD

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:32 AM

    Comment #33

    eaststand
    The disco and gangsta partnership could rule the Scottish 3rd (?) division

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:34 AM

    Comment #34

    Wizard…You haven’t been upsetting people again have you?

    I promise you, you don’t want to take Ed on.

    Whingers? On here? You simply must be mistaken.

    Talking about Ranger, where the hell is he?

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  • redondo77

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:35 AM

    Comment #35

    @Dannyo

    Lucky we have garage sale on Best, he just got injured for 6 months, Barton now in wilderness, Enrique didn’t make spannish squad, Nolan is in love with fat sam, Routledge is Routledge.

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  • eaststandgeordie1982

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:36 AM

    Comment #36

    Wwycd

    Send them on loan and make them buy both for 6m how could it go wrong

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  • davybtoon

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:36 AM

    Comment #37

    Tequila jus seen fergie is 21 so he will b in the squad but Tav only 20 do he won’t b in the squad

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  • kev1664

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:38 AM

    Comment #38

    @beattie I disagree. If Debuchy really wanted to come to nufc he’d put in a transfer request. I doing so he would surrender any part of a fee that the player and agent was to receive as part of the transfer, normally around 10% so around £650,000 more transfer fee for Lille. He won’t do that for one reason, that is he is being poorly advised because the agent wants a cut of it. It all links back to that article today from pardew saying that agents and other clubs are driving up the price of the transfers. His agent is advising him not to put a transfer request in meaning the overall transfer fee is higher than expected, if he really wants to move the transfer request is the key, not before, not after! This is also probably the same reason as it seemed that Lille moved the goalposts on their asking price. Lille want £6.5m we offer £6.5m however I reality they are getting £5.85. If we start becoming a soft touch in the market again we are setting ourselves up for a fall!

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  • WWYCD

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #39

    eaststand
    Haha honestly though what are Newcastle going to do with the disco and Ranger? Xisco in the last year of his contract so season long loan out to somewhere but Ranger still has 3 and a half years doesnt he?

    Barton style transfer? Off him on a free to anyone who will pay his daft wages?

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  • kev1664

    Aug 13, 2012 at 9:39 AM

    Comment #40

    @beattie I disagree. If Debuchy really wanted to come to nufc he’d put in a transfer request. I doing so he would surrender any part of a fee that the player and agent was to receive as part of the transfer, normally around 10% so around £650,000 more transfer fee for Lille. He won’t do that for one reason, that is he is being poorly advised because the agent wants a cut of it.

    It all links back to that article today from pardew saying that agents and other clubs are driving up the price of the transfers. His agent is advising him not to put a transfer request in meaning the overall transfer fee is higher than expected, if he really wants to move the transfer request is the key, not before, not after!

    This is also probably the same reason as it seemed that Lille moved the goalposts on their asking price. Lille want £6.5m we offer £6.5m however I reality they are getting £5.85. If we start becoming a soft touch in the market again we are setting ourselves up for a fall!

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