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Top Newcastle Stars Upset At Inability To Fortify Squad

10:44 am, Monday, August 13th, 2012 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 48 Comments

There’s a little bit of disturbing news in the Evening Chronicle today, that some of Newcastle top players, including Demba Ba and Papiss Cisse,  have asked the Newcastle hierarchy why the  first team squad has not yet been strengthened this summer.

Cabaye and Debuchy with French squad in the summer

Of course some of that concern could be lifted a little if Newcastle are able to tie up a deal for Vurnon Anita, maybe even today, and then he will be available to play for Newcastle this Saturday, in the kick off to the season at St. James’ Park against Tottenham.

The Chronicle is reporting that Newcatsle’s senior men on transfers – Derek Llambias, Lee Charnley, Alan Pardew and presumably owner Mike Ashley – held an important transfer strategy meeting recently to try to make some significant breakthroughs in the transfer market.

That would start with getting Vurnon Anita through the door, and we have to think they will also try to bring Mathieu Debuchy into the club.

If  Demba Ba, Papiss Cisse and other top players are questioning Newcastle’s transfer business this summer, we have to believe that  Yohan Cabaye has also been asking questions about where the deal stands to bring his best friend, Mathieu Debuchy, to Newcastle.

It’s not good to hear there is unrest among top players like Papiss Cisse and Yohan Cabaye, and we have to hope Newcastle move quickly to bring say two top players – Anita and Debuchy  would be great – through the door before next Saturday.

This is what Alan Pardew said today about the transfer situation:

“The feelings I have given to the board and to Derek Llambias and Lee Charnley, who do the deals, is that we really need to try to get somebody if we can.”

“If we can we can, if we cannot we cannot.” “They will do their utmost like they have all summer to get somebody over the line.”

The Chronicle is also reporting that it’s not only Cabaye who has been pushing to get his friend through the door, probably because Mathieu is a top player,  who would certainly improve Newcastle’s defense.

And as we pointed out earlier today, if the French International comes in then Newcastle can pick up at least £2M almost immediately, by selling Danny Simpson.

What do you think?

Comments welcome.



Tags: Demba Ba · Newcastle News · Papiss Cisse · Transfer News and Rumours · Transfer Target · Yohan Cabaye



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48 responses so far ↓

  • 1 tdyson // Aug 13, 2012 at 10:47 AM

    get someone bloody signed

  • 2 eaststandgeordie1982 // Aug 13, 2012 at 10:47 AM

    I would still keep simmo we always need back up and simmo can start cup games he might even learn how to go forward

  • 3 tdyson // Aug 13, 2012 at 10:47 AM

    first

  • 4 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 13, 2012 at 10:51 AM

    If there really is any unrest then Pardew needs to work his magic. Team spirit and unity took us far last season, we don’t want an unhappy squad.

    I do however believe, they are trying to get players “over the line” and will in fact get some across the bleedin’ thing before the end of the window.

  • 5 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 13, 2012 at 10:52 AM

    I thought Pardew said he wasn’t going? Bad journalism or management?

    http://www.jarrowandhebburngazette.com/sport/football/newcastle-captain-coloccini-links-up-with-argentina-despite-injury-1-4827691

  • 6 JDdubai // Aug 13, 2012 at 10:52 AM

    Not sure Debuchy will help us defensively from the little Ive seen and heard. Simpson defensively was fine, its just he got scared when the ball came his way, thats where Debuchy would improve us.

    Lokks like HBA is out for the first week of the season. Who is going to take on the mantle of dribbler genius now? We do lack players who can go past players with speed and skill. Marveaux, tiem to prove ur legs arent made from glass.

  • 7 sholasupporter // Aug 13, 2012 at 10:53 AM

    raylor is good enough backup! bye bye simmo!

  • 8 Bloody Marveauxlous // Aug 13, 2012 at 10:53 AM

    On a seperate note, what do you think our team will be for the cups and Europa! I’m hoping it will be a combination of 2011/12 and 2010/11 with Caroll reclaiming his spot upfront:

    ———————–Harper————————
    Perch———Saylor——-Colo———Raylor
    —————–Anita——–Bigi——————
    Obertan———–Marveaux————-Jonas
    ————————Caroll————————

    Subs:
    Krul, Ferguson, Willo, Tiote, Cabaye, Shola, Ba

    What do you guys think? I think Europa is nearly as important as the PL, so I think we should have our first team, minus a few key players. What would your teams for Europa and the cups be?

  • 9 Beattie25 // Aug 13, 2012 at 10:53 AM

    Over the line

    God damn you Pardew!

    I think we all expected this and it comes as no suprise. Failure to strengthen and push once more for europe will mean disaster for this club. Enrique said it and we proved him worng, Barton said it and same again.

    However we have given the current crop of players no reason to think we are pushing forward and that Ashley isn’t a cheap skate.

    People on this blog can say they are happy with the current team but you cannot see the devastating ramifications that might have.

    It’s all or nothing now. We invest and retain or we stand still and fall back.

  • 10 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 13, 2012 at 10:57 AM

    Beattie…Not sure it’s quite so dramatic, but the fact the players are frustrated shows they want to push on and wont be happy to just linger outside the big boys.

    I expect we’re working on 2 or 3 deals, hopefully they’ll come through.

    Bloody….Obviously a lot depends on who we bring in. My problem with your CB pairing is we cannot expect both STaylor and Colo to manage the chunk of the PL games as well as Europa.

    I think a lot will depend on who the opposition is in both the PL and EL. If a game is perceived as “easier” then we should use that as a chance to rest some key players.

    For me, PL has to be priority. We need to qualify for Europe again next season. That for me is the number one goal for this season.

  • 11 Londtoon // Aug 13, 2012 at 11:00 AM

    Personally don’t believe this report

  • 12 cupiddstunt // Aug 13, 2012 at 11:01 AM

    Beattie25 @ # 9

    You sound like one of last year’s doom and gloomers having us relegated before a ball is kicked.

  • 13 Rotonda heights // Aug 13, 2012 at 11:02 AM

    eastandgeordie

    We’ve got tavernier. very worrying if we have to go in to this season with simmo and willlo when saylor inevitably gets crocked again.

  • 14 looizallan // Aug 13, 2012 at 11:02 AM

    Plenty of time yet, no doubt pards and other staff involved will pull a few stunts to complete transfers. Definitely could do with anita

  • 15 Super Magpie // Aug 13, 2012 at 11:03 AM

    I’m actually glad some players are unhappy that nobody has been brought in. It means that they’re just as annoyed as we are. Hopefully it will make the board speed up, because the team itself knows we need more players.

    And how much is Anita asking for? How much have we supposedly offered? If he wants more than £40,000 p/w then he can think again because there’s no chance that we’ll offer him that now. Maybe in 6months if he plays well.

  • 16 WWYCD // Aug 13, 2012 at 11:04 AM

    Very very worrying if there is some truth behind this

  • 17 Rotonda heights // Aug 13, 2012 at 11:05 AM

    I think the deals we offer players are very good because they get a basic salary but then fantastic bonuses and incentives for finishing higher. Nolan was offered a contract like that if we finished 7th but he didn’t want to know. Players may worry if they get injured but they are still paid a basic wage for being on the sick.

  • 18 eaststandgeordie1982 // Aug 13, 2012 at 11:05 AM

    I know we have tav we need as many defenders as possible

  • 19 Beattie25 // Aug 13, 2012 at 11:05 AM

    Ibiza it is that dramatic IMO.

    Why would these players want to hang around and play for a club that is not going to invest and use their talents to their full potential.

    It only takes one domino to fall and the entire set comes tumbling down.

    These players owe us no loyalty and can obviously get better pay elsewhere yet they see something special as do we.

    Pards can say it’s other clubs putting too much value on their players and not being realistic,, but that is contradictory to our own business model. £35 million springs to mind.

    If the margins we are talking about are true (Debuchy valuation is 1-2 million euros more than we offered) then surely it is better to pay a little bit more and ensure short term stability, positiveness and quality throughout the team then not spending anything and having disharmony, anger and players heads being turned.

    Our team is very together and they’d he together on this factor as well.

  • 20 geordie157 // Aug 13, 2012 at 11:07 AM

    Fingers crossed we get this deal done asap. Then offer Lille 7 for debuchy or Sochaux 5mill for Corchia. Centre back can wait until end of the window.

    Fergs back for reserves is a good sight. if Ashley gets the stake in Rangers, any chance of Ranger or Xisco being loaned there?!?! they arent in the 1st or reserve teams.

  • 21 AMEOBI // Aug 13, 2012 at 11:07 AM

    i don’t believe this at all, there is plenty time anyways.

    Anyone apart from me think that Vuckic could do a big job as a striker this season? Well maybe CF he looks great up top though. Here’s a video of him playing Brom,

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbUGGIPPHSU&feature=related

  • 22 Munster Mag // Aug 13, 2012 at 11:08 AM

    Ibiza, its somewhat worrying when it requires senior players to put pressure on to get more firts teamers in….hopefully we will get Anita, though i didnt think a defensive midfielder was a priority?? maybe this suggests Santon will go right back?

  • 23 Beattie25 // Aug 13, 2012 at 11:10 AM

    Cupidstunt

    Far from a doom mongerer.

    I still fully believe we will sign 2-3 players but just voicing what I consider to be my opinion on the matter. Whether that is a positive or negative opinion it doesn’t matter as I have no control over any of this.

  • 24 Bloody Marveauxlous // Aug 13, 2012 at 11:10 AM

    Ibiza-It’s hard to believe that a short 12 months a go, the goal was to stay in the league!!
    I think we will bring in Anita, Debuchy, Douglas and Liverfool will cut their loss and sell Caroll near the final days of the transfer window! This will hopefully be our starting XI on September 1st:

    —————————-Krul————————–
    Debuchy—-Douglas——-Colo———-Santon
    ——————–Anita——-Tiote——————-
    HBA—————–Ba/ Cabaye——–Cabaye/ Marveaux
    —————————-Cisse————————-

    Subs:
    Harper, Raylor, Saylor, Jonas, Amalfitano, Caroll, Shola

    Now, what do you think about that, for a starting line-up!

  • 25 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 13, 2012 at 11:11 AM

    Beattie…Well, there’s 2 points there. One is signings in general, the other is Debuchy.

    We’re clearly trying to sign players, I would imagine we will get the 2-3 that are deemed as needed, whether first or second on the list.

    As for Debuchy, I personally don’t know enough to be able to comment properly. The whole thing has stunk from both camps all the way through, I’d like to hope a solution can be found, but I also don’t want the club to just cave in to a club’s demands when their are other options out there (don’t ask me which, I am a fan, this isn’t my profession :) ).

    Debuchy, whilst a great signing, will not make or break our season or team, positive investment however might.

  • 26 cupiddstunt // Aug 13, 2012 at 11:12 AM

    Rotonda @ # 16

    The way I get it although I may have miss interpreted it all is there are no longer individual bonuses but more like collective bonuses and they are tied to league placements.

    I think this goes a long way towards the team spirit and togetherness if the bonuses are tied together then the players play for one another and not just for themselves

  • 27 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 13, 2012 at 11:15 AM

    Bloody…I love it :)

    Munster…Well, that is what’s being reported. We once again, have no idea. It could be as simple as “Hey, what’s happening with new blood boss?”

    I believe the club have a plan in place. Bid low early in the window and sound out the selling clubs. Bide our time and strike our deals. Frustrating for some, but I’m willing to give them the benefit of the doubt for now, they have afterall given us our best team in god knows how long.

    They’re hard to read these days, don’t confuse that with them not doing anything.

    I may be proved wrong, I don’t think I will though. Let’s hope not :)

  • 28 BOOM BOOM THE 1ST // Aug 13, 2012 at 11:17 AM

    AMEOBI – Vuckic will never be a striker i prefer your comments about banging Ashleys daughter cos that last comment is wide of the mark ha

  • 29 toon1707 // Aug 13, 2012 at 11:21 AM

    I am sure after Anita there will still be at least 2 more through the door me personally would like to see van der weil and remy others will have there own opinions. If as has been mentioned ben arfa is out first game then it has to be marvaux he has looked outstanding this pre season his passing is fantastic knows where the back of the net is and I think he will be a huge player for us this season if he stays fit

  • 30 Beattie25 // Aug 13, 2012 at 11:22 AM

    Ibiza

    It’s good to see we still find a quantum of agreement after all we’ve been through.

    I was highlighting Debuchy as an example but my only querey would he of there is better value out there than Debuchy for 7-8 million why haven’t we moved onto them and made a move so close to the start of the season?

    Something is not right about our dealings this summer but i still think something will happen.

    I believe we will sign Debuchy and Douglas too but IF we don’t and don’t sign anyone then I can see a major issue developing on tyneside.

    Anyway I am positive that it will come good.

  • 31 Transfer Sage // Aug 13, 2012 at 11:30 AM

    They can be as unhappy as they like but we won’t lose thn over it.

    Players need to shut up and wait for the window to close before even thinking about voicing their concern.

    Maybe cabaye can tell his friend to hand in a transfer request to lose out on his cut of the fee before he totally blames the board.

  • 32 tiotely footy mad // Aug 13, 2012 at 11:32 AM

    Thats why MA is investing in Rangers, easier to sign players plenty talent knocking about Rangers these days

  • 33 dave 1961 // Aug 13, 2012 at 11:32 AM

    cupiddstunt
    the reason that people get worried is the fans on hear care about the club and worry about some of the unnecessary risks the like of Llambias take, and the reason he takes these risks is he has no feeling for the club he’s only cared about money, i have 4 season tickets, i have put my money into the club like i do each year, we all know what we need and 99% of posters are realistic with expectations, and i would bet most clubs have more than 1% who dare to dream even teams like Blackpool dream of winning. i organize my life around the football.

  • 34 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 13, 2012 at 11:33 AM

    Beattie…We shall always find a way. You are my beetle after all ;)

    Many people have said we can’t continue to deal like we have as “we’ve been sussed out”, maybe we’re just experiencing the new Newcastle master stroke tactic….Yes, optimism still runs through me :)

    On Debuchy…well he is dreamboat mark 2, perhaps worth pursuing a little longer?

  • 35 brian kilclines pony tail // Aug 13, 2012 at 11:39 AM

    JDdubai @ 6

    ‘Simpson defensively was fine, its just he got scared when the ball came his way, thats where Debuchy would improve us’

    how can this mean that Simpson is fine defensively if he’s scared of the ball? for the record he isn’t scared, he just isn’t very good and this is why most of his passes during his days in toon will be back to our keeper.
    Then the keeper would hump it forward and the ball comes straight back 9 times out of 10 increasing pressure on the defence (either that or he will aimlessly pump it up and the same will happen). This is not the case for good footballing full backs.
    Full back is one of the most underrated positions, you need to have attacking skills and defensive skills and a level of fitness and speed that eclipses even the central midfielders who are in the ‘engine room’ because of the getting up and down the pitch, this is why over the years there has been a lot of full back moving to centre midfield because they have similar abilities.

  • 36 GFH // Aug 13, 2012 at 11:54 AM

    We can’t keep Simmo as East stand Suggests , because he has refused to sign a contract , and we won’t let him go for free so Raylor , Saylor , Tavs are our backup to anyone we buy. I’m confident that the deals will be done before the deadline passes.
    Man City haven’t signed anyone either because they do not accept the valuations being put on players , and they are now recognising the potential impact of the Financial Fair play ruling.
    I share the almost universal frustration that we do not have people on board for what is left of pre-season but don’t want to break our excellent financial practises when in a few weeks time we should find that we have landed our targets anyway.

  • 37 pappiscisse9 // Aug 13, 2012 at 11:56 AM

    http://tyneandwear.sky.com/newcastleunited/article/34248

    VAN DER WEIL SAYS NO TO NEWCASTLE!!

  • 38 Munster Mag // Aug 13, 2012 at 12:01 PM

    Ibiza, i’m feeling better too, although I agree with Beattie in that earlier resolutions would help Pardew an awful lot. If things go our way ( and I doubt they all will , in terms of the players we would like ) we could have a very strong team, with good squad flexibility. This has been another positive development since Pardew arrived.

  • 39 Shedzzzaa // Aug 13, 2012 at 12:02 PM

    Leave out tiotely footy, your opinion on MA is ridic

  • 40 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 13, 2012 at 12:07 PM

    Munster…No dispute here, would be far better if the new players we’re here at the beginning of summer, not the end. But if we start September with our top targets, I will not care one bit.

    :)

  • 41 wynsleap // Aug 13, 2012 at 12:10 PM

    I can quite believe this as I’m sure when Cabaye, Ba and Cisse for example were talking to us about joining they would have been given assurances that the club wouldn’t be standing still in recruitment. Having worked hard last season to get us into Europe I could see why those players wouldn’t be happy if we reneged on those promises wouldn’t be happy.
    Footballers and clubs in general have long memories and Ashley would do well to remember that or he is in danger of undoing all the good work he has achieved lately.

  • 42 tiotely footy mad // Aug 13, 2012 at 12:12 PM

    @ Shedzzzaa

    i only speak the truth, expect to see Lee McCulloch holding the midfield with Tiote and Kevin Kyle leading the line with Cisee, watch this space ;)

  • 43 phoonck // Aug 13, 2012 at 12:14 PM

    @brian kilcline
    well.. name me the full backs that have moved to central midfielder role pls

  • 44 Shedzzzaa // Aug 13, 2012 at 12:16 PM

    @ tiotely footy

    That’s probablies the worst rumour ever! Lee McColluch couldn’t even make the grade at Sunderland he’s that bad!

  • 45 tiotely footy mad // Aug 13, 2012 at 12:39 PM

    @ Shedzzzaa

    thats a bit harsh on McCulloch that mind, im telling you once MA takes his stake expect the toon and the firm to join forces

  • 46 Shedzzzaa // Aug 13, 2012 at 12:44 PM

    @tiotely footy

    All jokes aside.. Supposedly they can take 9 players off us but max 4 loans I think that’s what I heard, If so it would be good for some younguns to go there on loan

  • 47 89Norcal // Aug 13, 2012 at 4:50 PM

    I wonder if Cabaye is frustrated at Newcastle’s refusal to bid higher for Debuchy? The players have a right to be slightly worried with the extra matches this year, but they should be realistic about the transfer policy too.

  • 48 brian kilclines pony tail // Aug 13, 2012 at 7:50 PM

    two of my heroes venison and beresford




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