David Sullivan has been interviewed in the Daily Mirror today, and he has opened up about West Ham trying to get Andy Carroll to West Ham, initially on loan and then doing a permanent deal, and he has even admitted West Ham didn’t have the money, and it would have been difficult financially for them – so why did they still want to do it?
David Sullivan - Allardyce wanted to build team around Andy Carroll
The West Ham co-owner admits the deal was very expensive, and using some of his words below “It was a terribly expensive deal with the loan fee and with his wages, which were enormous – too much for a club like ours .”
So our question would be that if it was too much for them, why were they still willing to go ahead with the deal and put their club in financial danger?
That’s one way to get any club going towards bankruptcy – which recently happened to one of the greatest ever Scottish clubs – Rangers – so it happens to any club, if they are daft enough to continually spend money they just don’t have.
We continue to be amazed at the inept financial management of some football clubs - and surely they have to get real very quickly and start living within their means, before more clubs become bankrupt.
Here’s what David Sullivan said in the Mirror:
“I can only talk about this because it has been put in the public domain already.” “My manager wanted Andy Carroll, so we backed him.” “Andy was the perfect player for him and the style of football we play.”
“We play a lot of high balls, a lot of crosses – quite exciting football (in other words the big boot down the middle), not just humping it but clever crossing – and Sam wanted Jarvis to supply the crosses because he is a fantastic crosser.”
“We had a deal in place with Liverpool to borrow the player which automatically became a purchase if we stayed up.” “We hoped, as he had the same agent as our manager – a man we had done a lot of business with – and he was very friendly with Kevin Nolan, our captain, that Andy would want to come.”
“But he really wants to stay at Liverpool. He believes that he will get back into the side by his performances – coming off the bench or for the reserves. He believes the manager will have to put him back in the side.” “But it’s wrong to discuss what is in his mind.”
“Only he knows that.” “We were paying all of his wages and a huge loan fee. Newcastle didn’t even want to pay all of his wages.” “This is what we are led to believe. So Liverpool were not prepared to let him go to Newcastle. But it may all change. Who knows?”
“It was a terribly expensive deal with the loan fee and with his wages, which were enormous – too much for a club like ours .” “But, as the manager really wanted him, we were prepared to pay it.”
“Then there was a huge transfer fee which would have blown our budget for several years.” “So, as we buy players, the door shuts.”
“Newcastle didn’t even want to pay all of his wages” - David puts it as though it was a really poor show from Newcastle, but perhaps our club are not as daft financially as West Ham are – that’s closer to the truth.
David was the one who went into great detail last January, telling the world what was in Demba Ba’s contract, after Harry Redknapp had spilled the beans about that release clause, , and David said the striker would leave Newcastle this summer, just as soon as some club came in with the £7M offer to match the release clause.
I’m pleased to say Sullivan was completely wrong on that one.
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1 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Aug 15, 2012 at 12:16 AM
Thankyou ed. something to actually discuss. This should stop us arguing for about 15 minutes anyway…
2 Jail for Ashley // Aug 15, 2012 at 12:16 AM
Bring back Jimmymagpie.
3 BOOM BOOM THE 1ST // Aug 15, 2012 at 12:18 AM
we dont have to pay what the hammers do cause he wants to play for us not them .
4 jayphoto // Aug 15, 2012 at 12:19 AM
to be fair to some ITK’s alot of the time situations change! I work in an industry where every now and then you hear things (in my case unfortunately its usually about stoke city or aston villa) and then those things don’t pan out! For example, Yacine Brahimi was at bodymoor heath about 3 weeks ago, 100% was there with Seydou Doumbia yet those transfers never happened! Problem is with ITK’s is that a lot of the time they jump the gun or put 2 +2 together and make 5, for example, both Eden Hazard and Debuchy visited our training ground last season, both spoke to Alan Pardew and both watched games at st James park! Anyone associated with the club, ie: catering staff, bar staff etc if they had seen them would have reported we were signing hazard, yet he was just there to meet cabaye and watch a game!
5 BOOM BOOM THE 1ST // Aug 15, 2012 at 12:20 AM
shut ur bleedin trap conaldo or ill thump the face off u. ha ha any1 know where GEORDIE GERMAN is.
6 Graeme // Aug 15, 2012 at 12:20 AM
He is where his greed took him; He is where he belongs.
I truly hope he makes a huge success of his move to Luckypool as if it goes tits-up, he’s going to spend a long time on the scrap heap.
I really cannot see NUFC paying the money Bindippers NEED to save face. They have been well and truly shafted and its really such a shame roflmfao
7 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Aug 15, 2012 at 12:21 AM
Jail.
Jimmy magpie left by his own accord. He can come back if he wants, he can stay away if he wants. He wasn’t forced off the blog, a few posters disagreed with his opinions and posts and the whole thing was blown completely out of proportion.
I hope he does come back as his posts are usually quite good and insightful. However he can be extremely negative sometimes and there is no need for it.
Anyhoo. I’m not even going to say I’m off as I’ve said it 4 times now, but au revoir.
8 BOOM BOOM THE 1ST // Aug 15, 2012 at 12:22 AM
please jay dont please dont.
9 jayphoto // Aug 15, 2012 at 12:26 AM
Think its the worst kept secret in football that carroll has already told his agent he would be prepared to go back to Newcastle! Think for the record he would have been a success at west ham, allardyce plays to carrolls strengths! Problem is I don’t give big sam past christmas whilst ‘arry’s outta a job! Promotion or not, west ham fans can’t stand Allardyce, personality or football wise! They have a team of championship standard players and it will be a tough season for them as the other promoted sides have better teams and have both spent wisely too! Along with Villa, Sunderland and possibly swansea i think they’ll really struggle!
10 magpiebop // Aug 15, 2012 at 12:27 AM
Who’s going through early on saturday to lube the auld vocal chords?
11 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Aug 15, 2012 at 12:27 AM
I know a lot of people probably won’t know who he is, but does ketabaia remind anyone else of Karl Pillington.
12 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Aug 15, 2012 at 12:28 AM
*Pilkington
13 BOOM BOOM THE 1ST // Aug 15, 2012 at 12:29 AM
they are spending money and have signed two Carr targets in Alou Diarra and Modibo Maiga they will do ok but the fat man will defo be looking for a new club yet again hes making a fortune in compo.
14 Novocastrian66 // Aug 15, 2012 at 12:34 AM
I miss the ITKs. They stimulate conversation, even if it was posters disagreeing with their claims at times. Nowt like a bit speculation and gossip.
Andy Carroll will not be in any hurry to move on from Liverpool. They’re stuck. He’ll be after a big fat loyalty bonus.
15 jayphoto // Aug 15, 2012 at 12:35 AM
Kets reminds me a bit of a porn bot! the kind that pop up on your MSN messenger and type the same thing over and over again!
Pretty sure he just recommends who gets good on football manager, tbf, that game have a pretty good record of getting scouting right when it comes to young players who get good, remember Kets claiming he spotted Hazard playing 3 years ago and also recommended we sign Yaya Sanogo’o and Ganso! Always get the impression he’s never seen the players he recommends
16 Griff-toon // Aug 15, 2012 at 12:35 AM
I have used over an hour to read all the posts and when im finally finished im too tired to make å good post. So I will say one thing. Im glad we didnt whant to pay all his wages, because they are too high. Goodnight
17 Novocastrian66 // Aug 15, 2012 at 12:37 AM
Conaldo. If nobody knows who he is how can he us of someone?
18 G // Aug 15, 2012 at 12:39 AM
Back to the story, so WHU don’t have the money for AC. Business must be a bit slack in the Porn industry these days I take it. That reminds me, must ask the missus for my credit card back!
19 Novocastrian66 // Aug 15, 2012 at 12:41 AM
Correction.
Conaldo. If nobody knows who he is how can he remind us of someone?
20 jayphoto // Aug 15, 2012 at 12:44 AM
really suprised we’re not in for M’baye Niang, we must have scouted him a 100 times with the amount Carr and co spend in France! he’s available for €9 which is about £6.5m! He’s only 17 to be fair but this lad has already played near on 50 first team games, his physique and pace make it possible for him to look in place in professional games! Think he’s going to be a future global star!
21 Novocastrian66 // Aug 15, 2012 at 12:51 AM
Seems to me that there was a total conflict of interest with this alleged deal. Who is looking out for the interest of the club here? The manager? I very much doubt it. BFS very keen on the deal. I bet he was. Probably a drink in it for him if it was concluded. Then West Ham would be left with a player they couldn’t afford. If Andy Carroll agreed to move I wonder if the WHU board would have mortgaged the whole club or pulled the plug?
22 AMEOBI // Aug 15, 2012 at 1:36 AM
Sullivan is a class one eejot.. Why would you break the clubs books to sign one player just to suit their play?
Would love West Ham to get relegated next season, hate that club!
23 mattyNUFC // Aug 15, 2012 at 2:50 AM
anyone think Royston Drenthe would be a good shout? I know he plays wing a lot but he’s play FB a large part of his career and although he wouldn’t offer much defensively, he’d offer more going forward than any other FB we’ve been linked with
…wouldn’t necessarily have to put him at FB either. I think he’d impress anywhere (LW, RW, ACM, FB, maybe even as a second striker)
24 BmoreToonFan // Aug 15, 2012 at 3:38 AM
Tell us how you really feel, Ed
25 BmoreToonFan // Aug 15, 2012 at 3:39 AM
Tell us how you really feel Ed
26 Zebras4Life // Aug 15, 2012 at 3:51 AM
Man w RVP heading to ManU. Can’t help to think how nice Chicharito would look in the black n white
27 Dannyo // Aug 15, 2012 at 5:28 AM
SO, West Ham would do a hugely expensive deal, one which could stop buying players for several years…
Sullivan is an utter idiot.
Support the manager by all means, but not to the clubs bankruptcy.
We didn’t want to pay all of his wages, cause they’re enormous at this point and we KNOW how far we can stretch on certain deals.
Just splashing cash first and going to the bank after to check if that was ok to do…
Daft.
No planning, no structuring – administration.
28 NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Aug 15, 2012 at 5:48 AM
Simple Arithmetic !
He may want to come back to us but will simply have to take a huge Pay-Cut to do it ! He left us for big money and is i think stuck where he is, i will be extremely surprised if he comes back anytime soon!
Maybe he should look for a move to Italy or Spain, although he is hardly Barca or Real Madrid class is he?
As for the Hammers? well such an stupid transfer, would surely have them in administration before next season!
W…….K……RS !
29 redondo77 // Aug 15, 2012 at 5:54 AM
We should leave AC alone, we all know the club can’t afford him. We should go for cheaper options if we really need another striker as backup for our main strikers. Backup shouldn’t be expensive players, because we are not chelsea or mc or psg.
There are many options like Macheda or Bebe from manutd, Piazon of chelsea, Longo or Livaja of Inter.
30 redondo77 // Aug 15, 2012 at 6:02 AM
Lucky we have Pardew not fat sam as manager. Pardew understand the financial situation and works with the board to manage it. Fat Sam doesn’t give a damn, he wants players that the club can’t afford and still can’t bring good result.
31 redondo77 // Aug 15, 2012 at 6:10 AM
Regarding Inter bid for Debuchy, it’s BS. Unless Inter is selling Zanetti or Maicon, Chivu, Nagatomo, Jonathan or Ranocchia. All of those names are more senior than Debuchy and better players.
32 karasu // Aug 15, 2012 at 6:12 AM
i’m starting to get frustrated at the lack of senior players coming into the club. no center back, no striker, no full back. are they perhaps playing their hand a little too cautiously? we have been haggling non stop with people like twente, ajax and lille for guys like douglas, anita and debuchy starting to get tired of all these rumours that never seem to become reality.
haggling and haggling until clubs are irked at our hard handed approach. couldve sealed debuchy for 6m and now we are forced to go for anita for 8.5m if they would just resign to paying a FAIR market price (not like 10-12m luuk de jong) once in a while after having their bluff called.
bottom line is, we need bodies. and we need it now.
33 redondo77 // Aug 15, 2012 at 6:14 AM
Karasu
Debuchy and Anita worth the same in pound and euro.
34 redondo77 // Aug 15, 2012 at 6:21 AM
Luuk de Jong asking price was 18mil
35 redondo77 // Aug 15, 2012 at 6:28 AM
everyone wants more bodies and senior players in, what about Barton, Bramble, Scharner, Bassong, Dunn? They are all senior
36 karasu // Aug 15, 2012 at 6:38 AM
No they weren’t. Debuchy at one point was available for 6.3. We are currently dishing out 8.5 for Anita when Lille shut the door on us for trying to rip them off with under 6 for the Xth time.
37 redondo77 // Aug 15, 2012 at 6:44 AM
karasu
debuchy is in pound, anita is in euro. both asking price are the same, 8.5euro (+/- 6.3pound).
Anita is much better than Debuchy, that’s why the club elect to pay for Anita.
38 Constanstine // Aug 15, 2012 at 6:48 AM
West Ham didn’t seem to learn anything from relegation and the fact that no one should ever spend big cash for a manager like Allardyce. Would love to see West Ham and QPR going down this season.
39 redondo77 // Aug 15, 2012 at 6:53 AM
after looking at NUFC first team, you guys are right. Our squad is incredibly thin, 3GK- 10DF – 11MF – 4FW. We need about 10 or 15 players more.
40 Marty-Toon // Aug 15, 2012 at 7:06 AM
Cardiff beaten in the cup by Northampton so I hope we don’t get Northampton in the cup
Lol
41 Toon73 // Aug 15, 2012 at 7:11 AM
Northampton are the big guns…..in Northampton
42 kevymartins // Aug 15, 2012 at 7:18 AM
ED this place is getting out of control people trying to force 78 year olds off here just because there sharing some info….jimmy has been here for a long time…This blog is for football…but some on here use it as a social network…f u c k off to facebook you people that are on here 7 hours a day everyday picking on people better still go and get a job. Its quite pathetic what your doing.
43 redondo77 // Aug 15, 2012 at 7:27 AM
kevy
who is forcing people off?
44 kevymartins // Aug 15, 2012 at 7:29 AM
I mean take jimmy’s info or leave it. Its as simple as that no harm done.Don’t go raising a dispute with the fella. If you don’t like it don’t read it.
45 kevymartins // Aug 15, 2012 at 7:32 AM
@redondo It was last night Last post
46 kevymartins // Aug 15, 2012 at 7:38 AM
Or thead before this one as you would call it. Some people act big boys infront of there freinds.If you don’t like what someone is saying don’t read it and don’t reply.Well thats what any normal person that has’nt got enough time on there hands would do..As a matter of fact I herd a rumour that one of these persons is a 16 year old boy who is afread to leave his house and craves school saddo like
47 Jail for Ashley // Aug 15, 2012 at 7:41 AM
Kevy,
Its not just Jimmymagpie its this whole culture about people being ganged up on,fair enough if your going to call people you deserve to get it back but when you just post an opinion and somebody comes back at you with insults and long words that they think mskrs them sound clever but imo makes them look like
arrogant smart arses there doesn’t seem.any need for it.
48 TorqToon // Aug 15, 2012 at 7:41 AM
So Jimmy has now gone?!?! Christ…! Dropping like flies! The problem is that the people to are logged in 24/7 and always comment on anything (even if it’s just negative views!) feel their opinion is superior than other peoples. This is belittling others and they feel they have no option but to leave the blog!!
It’s ridiculous that even on a blog where we are all supporting the same football club, that there is so much infighting and bitching! Maybe some people need to grow up! My kids are better behaved that some of you!! Luckily those people ARE in the minority and 90% of us are here from the right reasons!
Anyway….what time is everybody getting to SJP on Saturday!! Butterflies kicking in now!
49 ash1001 // Aug 15, 2012 at 7:46 AM
Thnk we have been rumbled in the transfer market after some of last seasons brilliant deals.
Then you have Ashley wanting a stke in Rangers, + clubs know hes mega rich, so they go for as much as they can get. in the meantime we as fans do not have a clue as to what is really happening, but the situation is still there that we need players through the door.
Anita or the papers have said for 3 days that he wants to speak to AP – does not seem as if that has happened – WHY
50 redondo77 // Aug 15, 2012 at 7:47 AM
I just read last post, LOL.
Don’t worry, Jimmy will be back. He loves NUFC so much. I bet he still read this blog, like I did when I took a break after getting tired of some people.
51 redondo77 // Aug 15, 2012 at 7:50 AM
Torq
It’s called society. It happens all the time when a group of people meets. Sometimes we do need to take a break.
For me, I’m ok with arguements, I just don’t like people twisting my words.
52 eaststandgeordie1982 // Aug 15, 2012 at 7:52 AM
Its getting a joke on here now people come on for the football crack then get abuse and it always the same person giving it out He will be logging on for the day soon.
53 Ian Toon // Aug 15, 2012 at 7:55 AM
Torq Toon- jimmy can’t reasonably say – that I would like the real legacy of leaving the blog to be the positivity I inspired in those with a tendency to be negative.
Sam Allardyce commenting yesterday ” Every football team nowdays faces negativity and it’s spawned through websites. It’s riddled with negativity ; never positives. Football is a negative world.” Maybe because the knives are already out for Fat Sam.
54 Ian Toon // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:03 AM
redondo77- society ? – isn’t ‘t it strange to devote so much of your
life to a single pursuit when life has so many and varied things to offer. If your implying that this nufc website is his life then that is sad.
55 pardews plan B // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:12 AM
In fairness all they were really saying to jimmy is that you can’t believe his word any more than if i said i was john carver.
56 Londtoon // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:14 AM
As evil as it sounds I actually wish Carroll went there and bankrupt the club. Stupid fools. And that chairman is an arse after talking about Ba’s contract in the past.
57 pardews plan B // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:15 AM
Same with transfer sage.
You can’t say their stories about contacts aren’t true but you couldn’t say they are either. Its simple logic.
58 Londtoon // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:16 AM
And secondly whilst on a rant mr Sullivan, it’s not because we can’t pay his wages it’s because we don’t think he is worth it! What a fool.. And this guy is a millionaire?
59 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:19 AM
John is that really you?
I would love to know who this “person” is that’s here all day and constantly gives people abuse?
Can’t be Ruddy as he’s not here all day.
Anyway, on Sullivan, nice to see a board willing to support their manager even if it would leave them not being able to buy for serveral windows and possibly cripple them…..oh what I would do for an ambitious owner.
60 redondo77 // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:20 AM
Ian
1 person can have so many social life, groups, etc. For me, this blog is also society even though we don’t meet in person, this is the detail of society :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society
I’m just saying based on what he said last post that he loves NUFC so much, I also love NUFC so much, it doesn’t mean my life is only for NUFC.
61 redondo77 // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:22 AM
OK I don’t want to talk about last post arguements so much. not a good topic.
62 Ian Toon // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:22 AM
eaststandgeordie1982- does the 1982 relate to when Keegan signed for The Toon ? The euphoria at the news when we realised it was Kevin Keegan signing for the Toon. Only the signing of Shearer remotely
matched the ecstatic feeling .
63 tequilamag // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:22 AM
“Bunch together a group of people deliberately chosen for strong religious feelings, and you have a practical guarantee of dark morbidities expressed in crime, perversion, and insanity.”
Substitute Newcastle for religion and that just about sums up the blog at the moment
64 redondo77 // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:25 AM
Ibiza
I think the board supporting the wrong man, LOL
65 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:26 AM
Redondo…..I think you may be right
However, I though you were a big fan of Andy and his many attributes?
66 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:28 AM
thought* Pesky t trying to escape!
67 jesperfuglsang // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:30 AM
I am not picking side in yesterdays argument – don’t really agree with any of you
know it is said…
…BUT I do think some of you had a low bloodsucker or something last night and was a bit unfair to jimmymagpie; I left the blog last night ‘course I got annoyed
Now it is out so lets move on shall we?
68 redondo77 // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:30 AM
Ibiza
me fan of AC in liverpool colour? LOL
I must confess I’m a big fan of Italian players, girls, food
69 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:30 AM
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/7990348/Rodgers-won-t-splash-the-cash
Anymore? After this window? In 5 years time?
70 redondo77 // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:32 AM
@69
maybe the definition of splash the cash level is different than ours. for them it’s peanut.
71 stu.toon // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:33 AM
I really hope we don’t waste our time getting AC back. Still overpriced and I seriously doubt he’d take a cut in wages even if it is to return to his “beloved” NUFC. Let him rot at Liverpool and show out current crop that the grasses NEVER greener on the other side.
72 nico // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:33 AM
Lots of people on here keep stating that our squad is terribly thin. I actually don’t think we are far away from having an excellent squad. You are only allowed to register 25 players who are over 25 years old.
For argument sake, if we bring in Anita, Debuchy, Douglas, Carroll and sell Simpson we will have 25 players plus all the young ones. Can’t be bad.
73 redondo77 // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:35 AM
do we have NUFC cheerleaders? damn those rugby cheerleaders
74 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:36 AM
Italians ay? Some feisty spirit going on there
Jesper…Shocking. I thought there were many things we agreed on, but now it’s clear to see you’re just plain nuts.
All I’ll say on the Jimmy debate of last night, is imo, I tried to put a balanced point out there, but it seemed only Ruddy answered back to me. Maybe people were taking my advice and just ignoring posts they didn’t like?
75 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:38 AM
Nico…Do you know where I can find a link to our actual current registered squad? Be interesting to see as a lot gets assumed on here (as to who needs to be included and who doesn’t).
We seemed to let a few go over the summer and I don’t think they’ve been replaced, so is it some of the young players who have now taken their place due to age?
76 nico // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:40 AM
Ibizatoon
http://www.nufc.co.uk/page/Teams/PlayerProfiles
Amafitano is not included yet for some reason.
77 redondo77 // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:41 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NUFC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newcastle_United_F.C._Reserves_and_Academy
78 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:41 AM
So, Tav, Gael, etc are all counted now? Isn’t Gael 18? Does he have to be included in the 25 man squad?
79 redondo77 // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:42 AM
nufc.co.uk is inaccurate, amalfitano is not there
80 chris_g // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:42 AM
redondo77 // Aug 15, 2012 at 6:53 AM
after looking at NUFC first team, you guys are right. Our squad is incredibly thin, 3GK- 10DF – 11MF – 4FW. We need about 10 or 15 players more.
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That’s the stupidest comment I’ve ever read on this blog. I assume you’ll be phoning Sir Alex Ferguson to tell him that he needs to sign another 10 or 15 players as well!
CURRENT NEWCASTLE SQUAD – 28 Players (or 29 if we sign Anita)
Goalkeepers [3] Krul, Harper, Elliot
Defenders [10] Simpson, S Taylor, Coloccini, Williamson, R Taylor, Perch, Ferguson, Tavernier, Good, Santon,
Midfielders [11] Cabaye, Tioté, BenArfa, Marveaux, Gutiérrez, Obertan, Gosling, Amalfitano, Abeid, Vuckic, Bigirimana
Forwards [4] Cissé, Ba, Shola Ameobi, Sammy Ameobi
CURRENT MAN UTD SQUAD- 28 Players
Goalkeepers [3] De Gea, Lindegaard, Amos
Defenders [8] Vidic, Ferdinand, Jones, Smalling, Evans, Evra, Rafael, Fabio
Midfielders [11] Kagawa, Powell, Nani, Anderson, Fletcher, Scholes, Carrick, Valencia, Cleverley, Young, Giggs
Forwards [6] Bebe, Rooney, Hernandez, Macheda, Berbatov, Welbeck
81 JDdubai // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:43 AM
The silence on Anita is DEAFENING
82 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:43 AM
Off out, no doubt catch you all later.
83 redondo77 // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:44 AM
chris_g
i was being sarcastic……
omg
84 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:44 AM
Nico
Agree think we are only a couple of players away from from having a really strong squad, we have some fantastic players coming through the ranks
As for last night there has always been arguements/banter on here but last night really was OTT every1 on here is entitled to there opinion and should be allowed to agree/disagree with some one with out bieng attacked for it!
Jimmy if you are reading im truly sorry for mentioning my concerns about vuckic, you agreeing with me seemed to spark an all out attack on you lad! Im sure you’ll be back no one can stay away from the blog!
If you dony continue to post though good luck with your health mate
HWTL
85 nico // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:45 AM
redondo, yes thats what I said. For some reason he’s not on there yet.
Tav, Vuckic and Bigi are under 21 so don’t need registering. However, Ferguson will need to be registered I think as he’s 21 now.
86 redondo77 // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:46 AM
nico
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NUFC
is more accurate
87 Ian Toon // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:47 AM
redondo77- your making my point it would be sad if it was really such a big deal . I personally am a Toon fanatic from when my father first took me to SJP. I don’t view this site with the same emotional attachment. I enjoy the interaction with no ulterior or ego driven
motivation. It can be fun and an attraction to issues that are the
polar opposite of the one you’ve been immersed in. Jimmy made himself vulnerable because he revealed that he was disingenuous. I digress but I cringe on the occasions when confronted by an elderly man who says you’ll never guess how old I am. Do we really want
to be valued for what were perceived to be than what we actually are?
88 nico // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:48 AM
Abied is not yet 21 so he also does not need to be registered.
What the heck went on last night, actually I don’t think I want to know ha
89 markmac // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:51 AM
Morning all, just how did big sam make himself so unpopular? nobody likes him including me,that stems back to when he was with us and i sat behind the dugout listening to his foul language for 90 mins!
90 nico // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:51 AM
CURRENT NEWCASTLE SQUAD – 28 Players (or 29 if we sign Anita)
Goalkeepers Krul, Harper, Elliot
Defenders Simpson, S Taylor, Coloccini, Williamson, R Taylor, Perch, Ferguson, Santon
Midfielders Cabaye, Tioté, BenArfa, Marveaux, Gutiérrez, Obertan, Gosling, Amalfitano
Forwards Cissé, Ba, Shola Ameobi
Add Anita to the squad that makes 22 players, room for 3 more.
Don’t need to be registered
Tavernier, Good, Abeid, Vuckic, Bigirimana, Sammy
91 nico // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:52 AM
Goalkeepers Krul, Harper, Elliot
Defenders Simpson, S Taylor, Coloccini, Williamson, R Taylor, Perch, Ferguson, Santon
Midfielders Cabaye, Tioté, BenArfa, Marveaux, Gutiérrez, Obertan, Gosling, Amalfitano
Forwards Cissé, Ba, Shola Ameobi
Add Anita to the squad that makes 22 players, room for 3 more.
Don’t need to be registered
Tavernier, Good, Abeid, Vuckic, Bigirimana, Sammy
92 stu.toon // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:52 AM
I don’t think the numbers in our squad are the issue, it’s the lack of quality in that depth we have. If we want to compete with the top four then we need more quality. Some players that we may come to rely on aren’t premier league class yet. They’re just potential. Ideally vuckic and abeid would have a loan spell elsewhere to build up experience, and at the minute we can’t afford to do that. We need more established players there is no two ways about it.
93 nico // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:55 AM
Actually 23 players in Anita comes and Simpson stays. So we are not that thin when you add on the under 21 players and compare to Man Utd. Would be great if we could get a striker, Debucy and Douglas and sell Simpson. But hey, lifes not that simple
94 nico // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:58 AM
Best way for Vuckic and Abeid to gain experience is playing for us in Cups and Europe
95 LewSpi // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:58 AM
Wow, I rarely read the comments on the blog anymore as I simply don’t have the free time that I had when I was a student, but what on earth went down last night? Seems serious.
96 jesperfuglsang // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:58 AM
So is their any news on the horizon? …I think we are in dire need of some
It seems BBC think we might finish in the top 6 this season if Cisse can duplicate his last season’s form and players like Cabaye, Taylor and Tiote can stay clear of major injuries
Gotta say I agree though I think we might end up at 7th; hopefuly we can do great in one of the cups or more
Still think we look at bit thin if injuries do kick in!
97 stu.toon // Aug 15, 2012 at 8:59 AM
Only cup I’d play them in is league cup. I hope we take Europe a bit more seriously than giving young prospects experience.
98 jesperfuglsang // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:00 AM
*there
99 redondo77 // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:01 AM
Ian
basically it’s just “different opinions + name calling + harsh words”, the problem is if you aren’t that close to who you are talking to, it can be very hurtful especially when it touched your personal life and people close to you.
I can understand why jimmy was angry and I don’t blame him, and he can’t control what others said to him. That’s why I said sometimes we do need to take a break. I don’t know if he can forgive and forget, it’s up to him.
100 nico // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:05 AM
stu.toon
I’m sure a lot of the younger players will be involved in the first away Euro match as we play on Thurs then again on Saturday. Pardew has come out and said, players can’t do that as they athletes and 2 games in 3 days is to much. It will be a blend of senior players plus youngsters in a few Euro games. That isn’t bad because I think our younsters are better than a lot of other teams. I was at Harlepool (yes I know it was only Pool) but they were really impressive.
101 jesperfuglsang // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:05 AM
Usually most people on here don’t hold a grudge and sometimes as redondo says people just need a break
…think some people yesterday is due a break!
102 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:06 AM
Lewspi
A little arguement on nothing in perticular that got very out of hand
Redondo77
Well said mate disagreeing with an opinion is one thing but personal insults against some one and there family is over the line
Iantoon
Not sure how you justify the response to jimmy when you accused of bullying kets for asking him a question (which he actually replied to!!!) sorry if ive got the wrong end of the stick
103 Ian Toon // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:08 AM
redondo77- I came on after he had left and it all seemed a complete
overreaction . Some people just want to be on the winning side. Thanks for your candid thoughts.
Have a good day.
104 nico // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:12 AM
redondo77
Thought that must be the case. Thing is with these blogs, it sometimes gets out of hand as you can’t see people body language. Often posts can be misconstrued, therefore people respond and then all hell breaks loose. I don’t mind diagreements on here as long as people respond with good points, not abuse. The banter is good though, normally
105 Ian Toon // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:12 AM
TADS- !? I am surprised when you don’t get the wrong end of the stick-
LOL .
106 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:20 AM
Ian toon
So its not just you having double standards then?
107 TOONCHRIS // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:49 AM
After reading this blog for many years I have decided I will never read it again,you lot are not real fans but a set of whinging idiots,get a grip girls and enjoy the rest of your summer holidays
108 TOONCHRIS // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:50 AM
After reading this blog for many years I have decided I will never read it again,you lot are not real fans but a set of whinging idiots,get a grip girls and enjoy the rest of your summer holidays Arseholes
109 wynsleap // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:52 AM
Don’t know what happened last night but sorry to hear that jimmymagpie has gone from this board.
I always thought his posts had a great deal of truth and insight in them and were worth reading.
There are too many kids on here with rose tinted glasses, wet behind the ears in supporting terms, trying to be clever “accountants” and full of Football Manager wannabe teams and starry eyed devotion to Ashley and whoever is the cult hero at the time, etc.
I also agree totally with Kevymartin’s comments @ 42.
Not enough football discussion and too much social chatter pretty much like the Legends became on Real Radio after a good sensible start.
I’m sure we are all dedicated fans of the Toon in our own way but let’s not get to the point where we are p*****g dediobviously spent a lifetime of following the black ‘n’ whites.
If you’re reading this jimmy get yourself back on here.
From one ‘goldie oldie’ to another.
110 wynsleap // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:56 AM
Sorry – that should have read ‘p*****g off dedicated people like jimmy who have obviously spent….”
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