Newcastle fans have had a tough time of it in the transfer window so far this summer, with Newcastle still having to make their first signing of one of their major transfer targets, and it must have been tough on manager Alan Pardew too.
Vurnon Anita – considering his options …..
But Alan is a very professional man, and bought in immediately to the way Newcastle are run rather frugally by owner Mike Ashley, but we’ve also been rather successful over the last three seasons or so, and have made some stellar signings in Cheick Tiote, Yohan Cabaye, Demba Ba, Ben Arfa, Papiss Cisse and the like in that time.
Alan Pardew will be involved at the moment in trying to persuade Vurnon Anita to sign from Ajax, and it’s dragging on a bit, but the next step is for Vurnon to talk to Alan Pardew about what his role will be in the side, and that’s fair enough.
With the Dutch International able to play as a holding midfielder or left back, he will have competition from Cheick Tiote and Davide Santon, and he cannot expect to be guaranteed a starting place in the first team, and if he does, then maybe he’s not the right man for Newcastle.
We don’t even know if the lad is on Tyneside at the moment, and we suppose most of it can be done over the phone, but usually in these cases he would visit Newcastle, and everything could be tied up rather quickly if all goes well.
That’s including the discussion with Alan, the wage negotiations and then the medical, and yes I made a big bloomer when I said he had asked for wages above Newcastle’s ceiling and that’s simply not true.
And a number of readers have rather forcibly communicated that fact to me over the last couple of days – hey - I try my best and sometimes it’s not good enough.
But back to the important stuff, and with Vurnon being a top player in multiple positions, it makes him even more important to Newcastle, and he would get lots of playing time on Tyneside, but it may be that he wants assurances he would be a starter.
It seems he is still considering his options at the moment, and the good news could break at any time that he has signed for Newcastle,and that would be simply terrific news for the club, and since I’m taking my daughter Elaine into Raleigh down town today – that may help the good news break.
If Vurnon walks away from the deal, that would not be good, but we’d be surprised if at this stage he turns down what is a wonderful opportunity to further his career at a great club like Newcastle United.
Yes, okay, so I’m just a little biased there. 
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1 keeping the faith // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:18 AM
@mickhall
We also tortured manure at STJ and beat the champions league winners on their home turf.
2 mickhall4 // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:19 AM
Anita is in the TOON! he is here!
Apparently had stadium tour late last night and is being shown the city today. No medical has been scheduled though which still says to me this is very much up in the air.
The father didn’t fly in with him yesterday, was just him and his agent. Father expected in today though. Not sure where exactly they are staying
3 nico // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:20 AM
I’m confident he will sign
4 mickhall4 // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:21 AM
Typical disillusioned fan that are adding to the one’s i hear in the stands every week.
Everyone goes on about the expectations being too high at Newcastle, because of people like you. Lets get real
5 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:22 AM
Beattie
Jeff stelling is absolute quality love him and kammy!!
Mickhall
Arsenal got routed by man utd
Man utd got routed by man city
Spuds got routed by arsenal and chelski
Man utd also got hammered by blackburn
Man utd also got routed by us
It happens in football it doesnt mean were miles away from being a top team
6 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:23 AM
So basically no news on anita then
7 redondo77 // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:25 AM
even with the same team, I’m confident that the team is better than last year, because now they know that they are good enough and can achieve good results. they will be hungrier than last season.
8 keeping the faith // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:26 AM
My expectations are realistic and I don’t think we will finish as high or win this cup but until we are out of it I will still hope we do well. Not disillusioned just saying on any day we can beat some good teams.
9 pawl250 // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:28 AM
I am not too confident this lad will come.
From his fathers comments he would expect first team football on a regular basis. We should be careful what we can guarantee in terms of playing time.
He will have chances though so maybe that alone will be enough. I just have a bad feeling, and I’ve never known a deal after the clubs agree over a fee take this long, UNLESS the players wage demand is an issue.
I dont think that is the case this time round but its odd that he hasnt even had a medical. Especially when we could use him on Saturday if Cabaye, Arfa are out and Tiote is doubtful.
It would allow him to get a home welcome, and a chance to actually show what he has got.
Doubt if he did sign Pardew would play him in starting 11 though, he is very cautious when adding new players and seems to gradually ease them in.
Cisse only played cos Ameobi went off, against Villa and then he the bullet into the top corner to question why he shouldnt play the next match.
Its harder for midfield/defenders to slot straight in though due to the communication element and understanding what you team mates will do at certain times.
10 redondo77 // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:28 AM
Plus this season we have Cisse from the start
11 AMEOBI // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:29 AM
Yuup, no news on Anita. I do have a feeling he’ll sign today
12 shear-class // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:31 AM
Anita as left back hes right footed or has no body realised, how many right footed left backs do we need for gods sake so he must b coming in as a midfielder which he may struggle to get in the team
13 PompeyJohn // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:31 AM
Although it would be great t get Anita, If he doesnt make his mind up in the next day or two, I think we need to concentrate on more pressing positions ie RB and CH, possibly CF.
14 jesperfuglsang // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:36 AM
The all we need is for Ajax to do a Lille on us…
15 pawl250 // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:37 AM
Would like to see us focus on a cup, and top 10 finish.
Is that too much to ask?
If we dont take the EL seriously this time round I dont think I would like to see us finish in 5th or 6th this season. Rather us aim for 7th.
If we dont take it seriously what is the point in trying to qualify for it? The money? You get hardly nothing for winning it nevermind competing in it!
Infact those that make it through the CL group stages get more money for making it through to the knockout stages than we would for winning the EL.
Different ball game I know, but EL will take alot of energy to win, and it will sacrifice league form it happens to all teams that play in it.
16 hoppernufc // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:37 AM
What the hell is the capital one cup?
17 Jail for Ashley // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:38 AM
There was a guy on total sport yesterday saying that we basically had two starting elevens,he had Tav as one of the centre backs and RTaylor as the LB in his second eleven,ffs RTaylor is not a LB he done semi OK until he got found out last season and up until a few months ago we all thought Tav was the next best right back who has never played competitevely at CB for the first team,these issues really need addressing before STaylor breaks, pulls,tears or dislocates something,and as for all this talk about Fergie being a LB,where is the evidence.
18 jesperfuglsang // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:38 AM
Most say I don’t know much about Anite other than Boilesen keep him on the bench and Anita forced himself back in the team in midfield.
But hope he’s good though I do feel with a £6M pricetag comes great responsibility and exectations
19 jesperfuglsang // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:41 AM
*this tabet keyboard is killing me
20 check the toastie // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:41 AM
Must be so difficult to get these players ‘over the line’, today or never for me, have no idea why the transfer needs to drag on this long. This summer is driving me mad. Seems like everything is a struggle, just get the kid signed man. Its not like we are offering 12 million for Fletcher, hahahahaha.
Anyway about time we had another Debuchy article.
21 stu.toon // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:41 AM
Redondo you’re delusional if u think last the same squad can emulate last season.
22 pawl250 // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:42 AM
Hoppenufc – Its the League cup. Basically Capital One have sponsored the cup instead of Carling.
So therefore no longer the Carling cup but the Capital One Cup!
Wouldnt say no, but if I had my choice of winning a cup we so desperately desire I would want the FA Cup! or EL but that would take more doing and as stated have a toll on our final league position.
23 mickhall4 // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:44 AM
We can do well but another few years yet, don’t expect miracles next year. I remember Llambias saying Fat Mike wanted a 5 year plan, he’ll be sticking to it.
I’m not surprised to see us have a poor transfer window but I don’t think the whole debuchy saga is over. Inter back in the frame due to their injury situation meaning Newcastle will need to meet the fee Lille want
And i’m pretty sure from what i read he’d choose Newcastle over Inter
24 Toon73 // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:44 AM
Wait ! What’s first? Through the door, or over the line ?
25 pawl250 // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:47 AM
Debuchy as I have stated several times is a MUST!
Cant hack another season of Simpson and Williamson, I’ll have a heart attack.
BUT I do trust the board, and Pardew. They have earned it so whatever they think is best I’ll go along with for now.
Just hoping we sign atleast 1 first team defender this window. Mbiwa, Douglas or Debuchy any ONE (All if I had my way
lol) of them would be welcome in my opinion.
26 Jail for Ashley // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:48 AM
All this inactivity has taken away the fact that we have already made 5M profit this window,minus agents fees and undisclosed sums.
27 martoon // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:48 AM
mickhall4 @2 – That would be good if true – what is your source?
Can I just say, having scanned last nights posts, that some of you should be ashamed of yourselves for the manner in which you attacked Jimmymagpie. Yes he can be a bit ‘I know everything at my age’ but he quite often posted some interesting posts based on reliable inside information.
28 PompeyJohn // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:49 AM
Toon 73
I think you’ll over the door mat is after through the door closely followed by down the hall, into the kitchen, into the wash house and out the back door into the yard and finally into the shed!
29 Jail for Ashley // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:50 AM
I know because of this ‘bromance’ with Cabaye and a good Euro’s this Debuchy looks like an exciting signing a LB is priority personally I would like both and get shot of Simpson.
30 Dannyo // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:51 AM
It rarely seems that wages is the problem when signing a player. It’s always about the clubs and agents.
I’m confident Anita will sign.
31 hoppernufc // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:53 AM
Pawl – thanks for clearing that up I had no idea it had changed
32 JDdubai // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:54 AM
This Anita deal is the strangest Iv seen for a while.
There’s NO knowledge of where he is that Iv seen, have we even spoken to him yet despite the fee agreed 3 days ago.
Normally there is a sighting or something like that, is there any concrete, definite knowledge that he is in the UK?
Something seems dodgy here…..
33 Beattie25 // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:54 AM
Anita is either a very intelligent young man with his head screwed on and taking every variable into account before making a massive decision that will affect his future.
Or
His new agent is very clever and has told his to hold off accepting because once it’s revealed nufc are interested a host of other clubs will suddenly become interested and then we can chose which ever gets them the most money.
I hope it’s the first but the longer this goes on the more I air on the side of caution.
34 Kyo // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:55 AM
Pards said he expects a signing by the weekend so we have to be patient.
35 mickhall4 // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:56 AM
My source is a Man U season ticket holder, gets decent info in the past. He told me 2 weeks ago Welbeck was due to sign massive new contract and I’ve seen he signed it a few days ago.
Initially he said Berbatov, which is believable since NUFC is his english team however he’s text me last night saying Berbatov going nowhere unless transfer which we won’t do due to the policy. He’s stating Welbeck on loan but Everton leading the race, stresses only if RVP signs though.
36 LGFUAD21 // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:57 AM
Need to get him in. He’s 23 and is sure to be a world beater in the future. I’m confident.
He should get enough game time. He has played LB but you can tell he finds it the grave yard shift.
I think he will either form a 3 in midfield, with Tiote and Cabaye or will be be used to rest either of the two.
I thought he Debuchy fee was £8m. But if it’s €8m then I would be very unhappy that we havent gone in and offerred the asking price.
The guy is a french international who showed his world class on at the Euros. £6.5m is not that much for a top full back with international and european experience. Think of who else in a team of that calibre that could be brought in for that amount.
£13m for Anita and Debuchy would be good, economic business. That’s 2 more internationals both with experience of winning trophies and playing in Europe. ANd it would still leave £7m of the rumoured £20m in the kitty.
They can’t realistically expect to improve the squad by spreading that £20m over more than 4 acquisitions. And 3 is about right.
Did anyone hear anymore about Douglas going to Dortmund?
What was Twente’s valuation? We need another dominating CB. But a full back (either side) and a CM of Anita’s quality are what I would say are the main concerns. CB could be put off until January.
But I will be a bit peeved because spending £20m now is not going to break the bank. We have that money alone without MA putting any money into the club surely. (ATM £17m when you consider Best fee, and wasnt there some money still from AC sale).
I get the policy but there appears to be a lack of haste in our dealings this window. We have a good squad with some good young prospects coming through but we are not there yet. Why not spend £20m now. If we fail to better last season with it, we can either keep on pushing with a more fortified squad, or sell the players. For that money I cannot imagine their value decreasing.
We did great last window but the board cant expect the same. Ba was a very lucky coup that you rarely see. Cabaye was too. And Marveaux (pending forecast spectacular performances).
And PAWL
Fulham did great in the FA cup 3 years ago. Surely we have a better squad inc fringe players than them.
37 LGFUAD21 // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:57 AM
*EL
38 check the toastie // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:57 AM
Feel sorry for Pardew, he has to be such the politician, he must be gutted that Deker hasnt got Debuchy yet, but still has to tow the party line, that we are working on transfers get one over the line ny the weeknd blah blah blah.,
We have needed a quality CB now for a long long time, Pardew has said a s much on the talk ins he’s done, yet he still waits beacuse we cant sort out players agents fees and other bits, what happened to Ashley asking him why he hasnt sorted a bg CB out yet att Xmas time, its all a bit of a joke and is wearing me out.
Lets face it we were going to buy Marriapa in Jan, but haggled over pennies, Taylor last year and haggled over pennies, if those two were now at the club for what 4 million quid the squad wud have been fine. The Debuchy thing has been shit.
39 pawl250 // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:58 AM
Martoon –
Some people on here actually come on to argue, and insult.
Its just the nature of blogs/forums you always have some that disruptive people. They also think their own opinion is fact.
Although its true some people come here trying to be popular and spout utter none sense with inside knowledge. You do have a genuine few, who wont reveal their source. They tend to be the genuine ones as they dont want their source to potentially get in any trouble.
I have know of someone who has seen the players contracts as it revolves around his job somewhat. I knew Ba had a release clause (didnt exactly spread that out) I do also know he is 35k a week and if he plays in a match gets a 25k appearance fee. This was put in as a precaution to his knee injury so we werent paying 60k a week to someone injured a whole season.
Personally I think all players should have contracts like that. It would make bench warmers actually want to come off the bench to earn money instead of happily sitting picking up 20-30k a week like Smith did, or Harper for all those seasons.
40 check the toastie // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:59 AM
KYO – he has said that for months.
41 Ian Toon // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:59 AM
paw1250@9- Valid point on Pardew being cautious in introducing new players . It was Best who Cisse replaced after about 15 minutes.
That was it for Best @ the Toon and beginning of Cisse.
42 jesperfuglsang // Aug 15, 2012 at 9:59 AM
http://www.adifferentleague.co.uk/p6_1_16191_premier-league-preview-newcastle.html
43 sean667 // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:00 AM
after 4 years of exile thought i’d post again,how is everyone?
Glad to see that ed’s feeling better
44 mickhall4 // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:00 AM
Wendy Taylor who is head of media at Newcastle is childhood friends with my sister. Confirmed Anita flew in yesterday so looks like hoodrat was right. She said stadium tour last night but waiting for father to fly in today for tour of city etc.
No medical scheduled though so i’m not holding my breath. Expect a sighting today though, if he’s anything like Papiss he’ll not be away from strippers, shark bar or landmark chinese
45 LGFUAD21 // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:00 AM
check the toastie
I thought we gave up on Taylor because he said he didnt want to come and signed a new contract.
Taylor wouldve been a good acquisition in hindsight.
But Santon will develop this season I think. And into a world class defender.
Just wish Liverpool didnt rob Enrique. If we had Enrique LB and Santon RB we would be sorted.
46 Beattie25 // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:01 AM
Also mickhall
I think your full of shit.
Not only claiming knowledge of things you have no right to knownbut also failing to acknowledge your utter bull crap statement was wrong.
No team in the top 4 would lose 5-0 to Spurs.
Read TADS post and tell us how wrong you were.
Goon
47 Rotonda heights // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:01 AM
I think for the future of NUFC and the style we are allegedly progressing towards, ie a quick passing game, then Anita is the most crucial signing we could make in years.
48 JDdubai // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:01 AM
Phil Thompson’s predictions……
Liverpool and spurs battling for 5th, no mention of us and Suarez to be top scorer.
No bias then.
49 pieceofpapiss // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:02 AM
On a side note, all those isiots who slag Ed off for writing these articles need to have a good hard look at themselves. Not once has Ed claimed that what he reports its fact. They are rumors that he has heard from his sources. If you have a problem with them, then discuss them like grown ups rather than berrating him. If it wasnt for people like Ed then we would have nothing to talk about.
Ed, your doing an amazing job, concidering what you are going through in your personal life, and i would like to applaud you on that.
You trolls who give him grief for it are pathetic litte idiots who have nothing better to do with your sad little lives than try to put down someone who has more intelligence and nouse in his little finger than you can only dream of having in your entire life!!!
RANT OVER.
50 jesperfuglsang // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:03 AM
This correspond great to my expectations for this season; we just need a ned CB nd a young forward who can play wide.
I am gunning for Anita to sign this week
51 jesperfuglsang // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:04 AM
* ned = need, an = and
52 pardews plan B // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:04 AM
Beattie you’re bein brutal recently
53 JDdubai // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:06 AM
I really dont mind the pundits ignoring us actually, keeps us under the radar like last season when they were still saying we “hadnt played any of the big teams” by February!
Just dont see why they are backing Liverfool though? Seems like just listing the “big” clubs without any thought to it. Also if Everton start well I think they will be a bigger threat than Liverpool, especially if they invest the Rodwell money coz their team that finished the season was flying.
54 pawl250 // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:06 AM
However I can downright say I have no knowledge of who will come in or out of the club before the window ends.
LGFUAD21 –
Would love to have a decent FA Cup run. Would be a brilliant day out for Newcastle fans. Unfortunately upon checking I found out the cup final date this season would be when I am in Turkey getting married!
Still I would love us to make it to the final and push for a long needed cup win!
55 Andymax // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:06 AM
“And a number of readers have rather forcibly communicated that fact to me over the last couple of days”
So Ed made a mistake, I for one think he does a great job!!
56 sean667 // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:07 AM
nice one pieceofpapiss
57 Dannyo // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:07 AM
@Check
Mariappa was pure stop gap, that’s why we didn’t go along with the fee. AP himself said he wouldn’t be a target for the summer.
Naylor had a badly worded clause, so instead of the £1 mill, he got quoted at £4-5 mill. Also signed a new contract.
So i don’t see the reasoning, only for Mariappa. But as stop gap, u only want to pay so much.
He might’ve not been better than Willo.
58 stu.toon // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:07 AM
My girlfriends brothers girlfriends aunty works at nufc seems as though mickhall was right and anita was shown round the stadium last night…….Haha what do people get out of making this stuff up?
59 Mark29Hungary // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:08 AM
Anita has got a starting place in tehe first team i think Simmo hasn’t got…
_________Krul
Santon, Saylor, Colo, Anita
Cabaye___Tioté___Jonas
________HBA
___Cissé______Ba
If Debuchy comes:
_________Krul
Debuchy, Saylor, Colo, Santon
Cabaye___Tioté___Anita
__HBA__________BA
_________Cissé
60 pawl250 // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:08 AM
Ian Toon – I stand corrected! =)
61 Transfer Sage // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:08 AM
Pawl
The Europa league affecting league form is a bit of a myth.
In recent seasons it has had very little affect on final league position
62 Toon73 // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:08 AM
I think Debuchy will be a January window target – he’ll be even cheaper, otherwise next northern summer for a free. Would be surprised if we got him this month considering that lunatic Lille presidents comments.
Anita
Toivonen
Pieters
Douglas??
That’s probably a tick over 20mil pounds?
63 jesperfuglsang // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:08 AM
Welcome back Sean, but I think you left before my time ( 2 years and something)
Who’s been here 4 years? anyone?
64 sean667 // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:09 AM
LMFAO, this blogg has not changed a bit
65 Ian Toon // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:10 AM
Beattie25- @ 33. Your lowering the tone of intelligent debate.
Anita has been with Ajax since being a kid it’s a huge step for him. His father said on Sunday that matters would be resolved within a week.
66 mickhall4 // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:11 AM
Beattie25
Give yourself a shake, i’ve got no knowledge of football?? Yet i played pro football for Oldham for 4 years, what you done again football wise?? Nothing, thought so
Born in Manchester and live up here now after i retired. Still have plenty contacts in football
Goon……
67 pawl250 // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:11 AM
Transfer Sage – Its because other than Fulham who finished mid-table at the time have never actually made it very far!
Thursday – Saturday/Sunday game on a home leg is fine BUT the problem comes on the away leg when travel is involved. I think it has massive issues on league form.
Even the CL has a toll, but to an extent that is worth it because the money involved.
I think Chelsea match next week will show some tired legs if we decide to send a first team over to Greece on Thursday then play them over the weekend. Its only natural they are human after all!
68 AMEOBI // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:11 AM
Tim cahill only left for 1m? Wow I thought he was a class player
69 LGFUAD21 // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:11 AM
Also. People talk of startin XI and subs etc. This season is completely different. It wont be like last season where all Pards needed was a determined standard starting XI players and then tweaked for cups.
So people saying Anita, will he be a sub, he wont get he starting place he wants…blah blah blah. This is not true.
Swear I read somewhere that Pards was saying how all the current players understand that they will all play different parts next season. Eg. wont start every league game. Will start some, rest others, play some EL, play some of the other cups.
It will be a more dynamic and flexible season for the players it wont be oh Ba, Cisse, Tiote, Cabs all play league. Bigi, Shola, Abeid play EL. It will be a mixing pot each week.
70 pieceofpapiss // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:12 AM
@sean667
If it aint broke, dont fix it! lol
I’ve been on and off this blog for a few years and your can always tell who’s the clever ones!!
71 Ian Toon // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:12 AM
Beattie25- you’ll be pleased to know I am off to the dentist.
72 mickhall4 // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:12 AM
Only way i can prove it is wendy taylor on FB. Click into her profile bit.
Rest my case
73 southafricantoon // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:12 AM
Hey guys I just saw Anita and Debuchy… Not sure if that’s good news because I’m in South Africa… LOL
74 sean667 // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:13 AM
jesperfuglsang thanks mate, its been a while cant remember many names. I do remember long deadline day eveenings tho lol, espiecially one involving some argi sighning……NOT
75 jesperfuglsang // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:14 AM
“You’ve been checking on my facts
And I admit I have been lax
In double screening what I say
It wasn’t funny anyway
I stand corrected
I stand corrected”
Just felt like a song here
76 pawl250 // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:14 AM
Ameobi – He showed he was getting on last season.
I think his injuries were starting to get the better of him also.
Pieenar at 5m is a snip, I know he is getting on but had he not went on loan I think Everton wouldnt have had the spell they did 2nd half of last season.
The bloke is a wizard on the ball, always seems to find a pass forward, AND manages to get some goals too!
I would have attempted to hijack Spurs transfer a couple of years ago for the was it £4m they paid for him?
77 eaststandgeordie1982 // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:15 AM
Ian toon the 1982 was the year i was born mate thats the answer to your question from previous thread
78 stu.toon // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:15 AM
If anita comes I don’t think he will be utilized at left back more alongside tiote in cm where he can defend and distribute passes. It will free cabaye up to play behind a soul striker and two wingers ie Ben Arfa and marv
79 sean667 // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:15 AM
I’m sure i’ll have the spelling and puctuation police in uproar
80 MagpiesFlyHigh // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:16 AM
” he cannot expect to be guaranteed a starting place in the first team, and if he does, then maybe he’s not the right man for Newcastle.”
Sorry Ed but yes he ought to be a starting player either in a mid 3 or as cover at LB if necessary -though that is a secondary role. I would have thought if we play 60 games he’ll play 40 which I think is enough for a modern footballer in a season anyway.
My worry is not with the transfer policy but that Charnley and Llambias are just very poor negotiators.
Saying “we could not get him over the line” or using the rigidity of the pricing policy is just an excuse for the fact these guys are just not very good at their job.
Valuing players is not a precise art. They’ve been shaky before … last Jan for example…and are proving their lack of ability in actually completing the desired team stregthening within the window they have.
Poker players don’t always win with the best hand but they certainly don’t always win when they hold a weaker hand, which appears to be the expectation
There has to be some flexibility in valuing players and balancing fees against lost performances, merchandising, sales and the fact that each finishing place in the EPL is worth about £800k.
81 derekm // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:17 AM
the carroll thing will happen due to the sell on clause – if they sell to anyone stupid enough to match his wages ( we won’t but he accepts that apparently ) then whatever the percentage is will come to us anyway, so we can drop this equivalent off the purchase price. Anita is perfectly entitled to take as long as he wants before committing to a job overseas at his first club other than the one that he started out as a junior, it;s a big decision. Debuchy will happen when everyone realises they’ve taken each other to the brink.
82 BOOM BOOM THE 1ST // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:17 AM
good auld Ed loves an extreme headline. “touch and go” every single transfer hinges on what plans the manager has for a player obviously but then again your site needs hits to satisfy these dozens of trashy adds we have to put up with if we want to come on here.
83 jesperfuglsang // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:18 AM
Sean…then I guess not much has changed
It’s silly season and the evenings can be a hoot…ot the quit opposite
lol
84 Transfer Sage // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:19 AM
Pawl
It obviously has some effect, I agree there, but on overall league results it hasn’t made much difference.
Stoke dropped on place last year, spurs went up a place. It’s marginal but the benefits are huge.
You can attract higher level of player, increase fan base, a little extra money (not much like) but definitely worth it.
85 AMEOBI // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:19 AM
Paw,
Not to sure if spurs paid about 7m for him?
I know Cahill had his injuries and getting on but boy could he score a header.
I do like pienaar he’s qaulity better than Jonas anyways haha, let’s hope Marveaux is just as good hey
86 pieceofpapiss // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:21 AM
dont want to call anyone out on this but ive searched through every single directory of ex-footballers registered with Olham FC and there is no Mention of Mick Hall or Micheal Hall.
unless thats not your reall name
87 BOOM BOOM THE 1ST // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:21 AM
anybody who thinks we are in the business of signing 6-7 million rated players as “cover” are quite simply mad if we sign a player for that amount its to play.
88 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:21 AM
Pawl
Dont even think pineer was at spuds that long didnt he sign last summer (or the previous jan?) for like £3.5 mil?
Bad bit of buisness for a club as tight on cash as everton
89 LGFUAD21 // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:22 AM
Piece of Pappiss.
WELL SAID
90 tequilamag // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:22 AM
Derekm sellon clauses apply to profit made from transfers. As nobody would pay anywhere near 35 mill plus for Carrol that is not going to help us. Why we would even want him is another matter entirely
91 Ian Toon // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:22 AM
Ameobi- the last thing i’ll remember of Cahill was his altercation with
Cabaye at the end of the game at Goodison.
92 sean667 // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:23 AM
Haha jesperfuglsang remember it well, some posters use to go nuts, still do by the look of things (puts on tin hat)
93 pawl250 // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:24 AM
I dont want to start an argument again but people still forget the fact Pardew has said the following
Ba will play alongside Cisse
Ba will take up a more central role
Ok maybe not exactly those words but to the extent those words in some format. This lone striker malarky will most likely only happen if we need to be more defensive or one of the Dembas are injured.
UNLESS Mr Pardew is a liar, or bluffing which I doubt. I just think the Anita playing every game scenario wont happne, but I do think he will play alot of games whether he play as a replacement for an injury or at left back.
Is versatility is a massive bonus when signing him.
4-5-1
Ben Arfa Cabaye Tiote Anita Jonas
Would be a very hardworking midfield against say an Arsenal when the ball needs to be closed down. I still think our primary formation which will be used by Pardew the majority of the season will be 4-4-2.
If Anita does come today or tomorrow even I cant see him starting on Saturday, he may not even make the bench. Its just Pardew and his new play syndrome stance, basically you wont play until you understand how I want the team to play!
94 Ian Toon // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:24 AM
Jesper – Gooday. Hey Good Dag.
95 jesperfuglsang // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:24 AM
Speaking of nuts…
96 rivettCatcher // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:25 AM
I’ve noticed a change in mood on here recently. People bickering, having a pop at Ed occasionally.
I guess we’re all mad passionate about NUFC and are frustrated at the lack of transfer activity – but it’d be good to get back to the NUFC talk & show a bit more class.
HWTL!
97 BOOM BOOM THE 1ST // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:26 AM
Pawl or whatever your name is i for one would gladly finish 13th or 14th in the table this year if it meant winning the europa lge just to get that “monkey” off our back
98 sean667 // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:26 AM
hahaha and repeat
99 jesperfuglsang // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:27 AM
A guy goes into the bar and sits down and orders a drink. Other than the bartender, there’s no one else in the place. All of a sudden he hears a voice that says, “Nice suit.” He looks around and doesn’t see anyone and the bartender looks busy washing some glasses. A little while later the same voice says, “Nice Tie.” The guy looks around again and doesn’t see anyone. He finally asks the bartender if he just said something.
“No,” replied the bartender, “it wasn’t me. It was probably the peanuts though. They’re complimentary.”
100 rainrix // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:27 AM
I agree with transfer sage the old our players were tired thing is just an excuse for a poor performance. These guys are top level athletes they should be able to play a lot of games in a season, its what they are payed for. Some games will cause fatigue, for example going to tel aviv but apart from that its a greatly exaggerated problem.
101 Ian Toon // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:27 AM
Jesper – you surely don’t think I’m a fruit and nut case. I don’t have a smiley face to show.
102 pawl250 // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:27 AM
ToonArmyDownSouth he signed last summer, then was loaned back in the Jan window and rebought this window.
Everton should never let him leave I agree, but they needed to bring him back. His role last season was massive, to the point I would give him the player of the season for them.
Yes it would be a kick in the teeth for the other players who played a full season at Everton but I doubt they would have got as many goals or decent results had he not been on the pitch. It was certainly the 2nd half of the season when they picked up the majority of the points, and even had a decent cup run winning the mackems in the process =)
103 Transfer Sage // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:28 AM
Pawl
From what pardew said it was unclear if cisse and Ba would rotate or play together.
I presume he will want both on the pitch at once though.
However he may have said it to keep Ba happy whilst his release clause was active. Just speculation there.
Also with extra games even in 4-4-2 he will get game time.
Rotate him, tiote and cabaye so they play 2 out of 3 games, resting the other.
There will also be changes of formation and sub appearances so he might get plenty of game time.
With our tight budget can you see the club offering 6 millio for a lad who would purely be a bench warmer?
104 jesperfuglsang // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:28 AM
Hej Ian…Du må også have en god dag
Vi tales ved, når du kommer tilbage fra tandlægen!
105 Made a ma beed // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:29 AM
Welcome back Sean, half of the people from 4 years ago are now 12 and to old for the blog. Bit like some of them on here now!
106 Beattie25 // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:29 AM
My brutal nature has returned due to a mix of underwhelming transfer progress and a new breed of ITK littering the blog talking absolute gubbins every day.
Nobody knows anything about the inner sanctum of nufc so stop guessing and creating illusions of knowledge.
The blog is for opinion, discussion and intelligent debate not fictitious nonsense created by lonely people craving attention.
Whilst on the subject Mick Hall I never doubted your football knowlegde just your contacts within nufc and the fact you over looked a fellow blogger who called you up on a very bold statement you made.
Also how do you know I am not a former football player myself?
107 AMEOBI // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:29 AM
Ian, I remember that too..
was just saying 1m for him is a bargain
108 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:30 AM
Pawl
I know patds has said tha ba will play more central in the games he plays in i take that as him n cisse will be rotated, i also remember him saying ba n cisse can work together
But i really dont think its a simple as we will play one formation for an entire season i think there will be lots of rotation as fir anita i think hes actually the the key to how pardew wants the team to set up
109 jesperfuglsang // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:30 AM
Ian…my bad
That’s why we should all stay clear of fruit and nuts; you are what you eat you know
lol
110 pawl250 // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:30 AM
Transfer Sage – Only worth it if we actually want to play in it.
I agree about the attracting players, it has helped. BUT ultimately it would be unwise to throw it away. I just have a funny feeling Pardew isnt too interested in the EL.
And although ambitious and maybe out of our current reach he may try and focus on a CL spot this season. I still think it would be very unlikely, especially if I am wrong and we play and contend to the later stages of the EL.
111 Transfer Sage // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:30 AM
Beattie
Just because you don’t doesn’t mean nobody does.
I don’t claim to know every last detail but you hear the odd comment hear and there. Doesn’t all turn out to be true but some bits are
Jimmy was often wrong but I have no doubt he was honest
112 nico // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:31 AM
rainrix
I agree with what you are saying and that most footballers can play say 2 games in 3 or 4 days. However in the second game they’ll no doubt not be in top condition. I know I have played. You can play, but like Pardew says, you physically won’t be able to play your best.
113 BOOM BOOM THE 1ST // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:31 AM
pardews words were Demba has asked for a more central role this season and i think he’ll get that. so make of that what u like
114 Made a ma beed // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:32 AM
Ameobi-what yer like doonstairs today? Oh aye Sean , Ameobi is a senior member he used to have pubes!
115 nico // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:34 AM
Ba will be playing as Pardew says ‘The number 10 role’. This is the attacking mid/link striker. Cabaye will also play there this season. Ba I think will also play wide as well.
116 martoon // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:34 AM
mickhall4 @72 – I believe you but I’m not sure Ms Taylor will be too happy with you for naming her as your source on a public blog
117 rettort // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:35 AM
If Vufrnon wants a guaranteed starting place, maybe he has not the confidence in his own ability. So be it his loss I am sure he will never get the chance to prove himself unless he allows his ability to do the talking and guarantee that position he so dreams of without playing well as far as I’m concerned we might be better off without him. Gone are the days when we had premadonnas who got guaranteed places we succeeded last season because the best got in the team. I challenge you mr Anita come without a pre requisit and perhaps you will play in one of newcastles best teams ever, squads your feet do the talking not your father.
118 LGFUAD21 // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:36 AM
Whoever posted the link to the preview, thank you.
The first considered and objective one I have read. Not swayed by allegiances or group think.
This was my reply to the writer of that article.
“Thank you for a well considered and objective look at NUFC. Most of these articles I have read so far have done nothing but slate the club or barely even scrape the barrel of discussion. May be biased as a fan but I think NUFC is a club that is an interesting talking point at the moment (more so than the typical can City retain title, can Man U win it).
On the other hand I am struggling to see how these so called pundits are all pitting Liverpool for top 4 with nay a mention of the Toon or even worse pitting us for 8th. I can see the possibility but you have to think, how can a well gelled team that finished a whole 13 points above Liverpool last season slip that much, while Liverpool, a team that is half world class, half distinctly average and as we speak looking to keep their only out and out striker (in the number 9 sense) on the bench. They have had a few good additions, notably Allen but its hard to imagine the likes of Adam and Downing suddenly becoming world class. When Newcastle have a gifted winger (if inconsistent) in the form of HBA, one of the best CM partnerships in Tiote and Cabaye. And 2 goal machines in Cisse and Ba (with Ba, despite not scoring for the best part of half a season, on LW, still maintaining a very respectable goal tally). I just dont see the logic in Lawrenson, Le Tissier and the like.
Thank you for using your brain instead of being swayed by allegiances or group think.”
119 Londtoon // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:36 AM
My fairy godmother confirms mickhalls story.
She works in the kitchen at nufc and cooked Anita spag bol for his tea when he was on his stadium tour
120 Made a ma beed // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:36 AM
By the way Beattie don’t mess with Mick Hall!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYqnKVbdhII
121 stu.toon // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:37 AM
I think Ba and Cisse will be rotated, they both proved that in central positions they can find the net and with extra games we could do with resting them as often as we can while maintaining a goal threat.
122 Papiss9 // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:37 AM
When the clubs agreed a fee for Anita, I thougt the deal was going to be done at least by tuesday. I find it strange that there is so little news about the situation. All I read is his fathers quote, which is old news.
This summer we have really struggled to agree fees with other clubs. Anita suit our squad very well. Hope we manage to sign him. would be typical if some other club joined the race and signed him instead of us.
123 pawl250 // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:39 AM
Transfer Sage -
I dont think we will only play 4-4-2 I just think it will be used the majority of the season.
4-3-3 or I see it as 4-5-1 last season with how deep Ben Arfa and Ba actually played, would be used also.
I think Anita will get alot of game time, I have no doubt he will have a part to contribute in every game. But 6m in the market isnt exactly a massive amount of money.
We paid 8m for Xisco and he has played 5 games. The team will be the team Pardew believes will win the game on that day.
I think whether it actually be a role in midfield or left back or whether it be a sub at 60-70 mins he will play almost every match in some way.
I just dont think in a 4-4-2 formation he will be picked above Cabaye or Tiote unless he has performed better than they have. WHICH I would have no problem with and would be a great bit of business 6m for a player of Cabaye and Tiote calibre is still a steal!
124 pardews plan B // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:39 AM
And Beattie as i pointed out earlier i am john carver. I will provide no evidence of this and will give you no correct transfer news but i expect you to believe me nonetheless
125 Ian Toon // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:40 AM
Jesper – let’s hope so but after the dentist I have to fly . Have a good one
126 lesh // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:40 AM
Really can’t understand why some folk have a pop at Ed’s articles. They should just bear in mind that what Ed’s giving us is an on-going synopsis of NUFC – relevant news and thoughts.
Do the ungrateful and inconsiderate idiots who slam the site realise just how much time and effort Ed and his son must put into updating it? And for whom they do it? If they don’t like the site, the answer’s quite obvious….. or does it need to be spelled out!!
127 jesperfuglsang // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:41 AM
I actually don’t think we’ll play much with an ACM this season, other than when we play 4-4-1-1 and that is probably more like what you call a withdrawn striker ( lets just hope than won’t happen too often)
I think we’ll 4-3-3 more often with a DM and two mid in a classic #6 & #8 formation and with two inside forwards, who can be coveted to wings if needed.
I may stand corrected
128 LGFUAD21 // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:41 AM
nico
Where did you hear this.
And I think that is the best way to accommodate him if we play both him and Cisse.
He has the work rate and will still be in a position to score unlike LW.
If you are playing 2 strikers, with poacher attributes then you ideally want proper wingers out wide to get the crosses in. This would support my “Pardew mentioned Cabaye as a deep lying playmaker theory though”.
What about a Christmas tree formation like this.
RB Saylor Colo Santon
Cabaye Tiote Anita
HBA Ba
Cisse
With atacking full backs that could be very effective I think.
Benny and Ba would be in better position to score while much of the creativity would come from the link up between Benny Cabs and Anita.
129 Beattie25 // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:41 AM
Transfer Sage
Jimmy might have been right on the odd occasion but to keep up the pretence as an Itk he resorted to guess work and hearsay in order to uphold his reputation as a man on the inside.
You yourself might have heard snippets of information but have been proven incorrect 100% of the time.
If you hear a rumour come on and say ‘guys I’ve heard a rumour’ we can then debate it and discuss and see what happens.
Its when you create a whole back story of lies and rubbish and try to validate your claims by saying you know ‘someone’ who ‘knows someone’ that all credibility is lost and honest people who want a decent chat about all things nufc get upset.
I like the new transfer sage because he first pop up at random claiming a transfer is imminent. He, like today, expresses and concise and cohesive opinion and add weight to the discussion.
130 AMEOBI // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:42 AM
Made ma a beed,
Am alright today haha creamed it yesterday
Its not sore so am alright, cheers for asking mind..
131 Beattie25 // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:43 AM
* he first?
He doesn’t!
132 lesh // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:43 AM
Given the lack of incoming first team players, I wonder if the purse is being kept shut until we get or try to get Carroll? If that goes to the last day of the window and we don’t get him, well…………
133 check the toastie // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:44 AM
AMEOBI – are the fuds growing back yet, does your penis now look slightly above average. Might give it a go myself if it adds perceived length.
134 theystillletmevote // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:46 AM
Thanks for your site Ed.
Am managing to cope OK with the adverts and extreme headlines…
….”seems” “touch and go” extreme? matter of opinion I suppose…that’s what blogs are about..
and…IN MY OPINION (has to be block capitals as the correspondence course section on “underlining” and “bold” is at least 3 issues away…) some posters are not respecting Ed’s Comments Policy.
Some of the 647 Comments on Ed’s Article:
” Inter-Milan Considering Improved Offer For Mathieu Debuchy” 3:21 pm, Tuesday, August 14th, 2012 by Ed Harrison ·
would – perhaps – be cases in point.
(sorry I can’t do italics either)
I think it will be a shame if we don’t hear from “jimmy magpie” again.
…Hope your health continues to improve Ed
HWTL
…..aaaagh!!! under attack from another extreme headline on a different site 0:-D
135 Beattie25 // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:47 AM
Pardews plan b
If you are john carver then tell me, what’s slams favourite fragrance?!
136 ilovetoon8788 // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:48 AM
Everton are closing in on the £5.3 million signing of Olympiakos striker Kevin Mirallas as manager David Moyes looks to strengthen his squad following Jack Rodwell’s departure.
GettyImages
Kevin Mirallas is a Belgium international
Mirallas, who has been a target for Arsenal this summer, is expected to travel to Merseyside for a medical on Thursday.
Moyes has moved quickly for the Belgium international following the sale of Rodwell to Manchester City on Sunday for an initial fee of £12 million
137 LGFUAD21 // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:48 AM
lesh
Agree.
Ed is a retired man who appears to have spent his working years being very successful with IBM. Which means he worked his a55 off essentially.
While he could be enjoying the fruits of his labours sipping iced tea or homemade lemonade in the Carolina sunshine. He is instead choosing to spend a great deal of his time with this blog. Allowing us to check the rumours here rather than browsing the whole net. As well as, when we arent arguing, engaging in discussion about our common interest.
Ed has consistently done this throughout the years despite the battles of his personal life over the last year or so. He doesnt do this for the money, after the IBM salary any ad spend on this site will equate to relatively little.
Ed doesnt jsut have to write the articles, he has to research them. He also has to deal with, what I can imagine are numerous emails on a daily basis through this site.
So it makes me really irrate when people have a pop.
HAVE SOME RESPECT. Especially when half the time Ed is only relaying what is being reported elsewhere. And speculating at times, just like we all are, to a far greater degree, in the comments.
138 ilovetoon8788 // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:48 AM
5million for Mirallas. what a steal.
139 jesperfuglsang // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:49 AM
” A pirate walks into a bar and the bartender says “Hey pirate, do you know you’ve got a steering wheel sticking out of your pants?” The pirate says “Arrrh, I know, it’s drivin me nuts “
140 AMEOBI // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:51 AM
Check the toastie,
Yeah they are haha just coming through
Yanar it does believe it or not, give it ago.. No pain at all
141 LGFUAD21 // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:51 AM
And BTW what happened to Jimmy, wasnt on last night. Did he give information that people objected to?
It’s a shame. I found the guy very negative but he made sense a lot of the time. It takes thick skin to battle it out on the interwebs.
This blog has successfully run Ruddy and Jimmy of in a month now. Where’s the humanity?
Come back buddy.
142 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:51 AM
Check – ameobi – I see the discussion on here is oh so civilised as normal.
Ppb- welcome John, can you tell us where we stand on the messi transfer.
Re Anita, I have been struggling to see how we could accommodate him and Jonas in the same side. Untill I realised that with Jonas and santon, they constantly overlap, changing positions every attack and defense. That is why I think this may be the strong pl side we play.
—————krul———————-
Santon—Saylor–colo—Anita—-
Ben Arfa—cabaye—/tiote—-Jonas–
——————ba—–cisse.
This is a very flexible formation, with the potential of 3 dm, or a standard 442 with Jonas and anita constantly changing. Can also give a 4222 with attacking fullbacks.
143 Southern Pride // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:52 AM
Good day gentlemen, I’ve got this sneaky feeling that once anita is sorted we will be looking to tie a deal for mirallas. it’s so quiet… calm before the storm? one can hope. But hey it helps that we have been used to being disappointed so any good news would be pure jubilation. cheers
144 MagpiesFlyHigh // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:52 AM
rettort
Aniat has played most of his time with Ajax and is probably a bit anxious about moving on .
I have total faith in Pards abilities as a people manager to make him feel welcome, wanted at the Toon, and to get the best out of him as a player.
145 pawl250 // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:52 AM
Papiss9 -
I agree I thought he would have been signed, atleast surely by today!
I mean according to his father a whole 36hrs hours after the reported accepted fee he still had no contact from Newcastle. Too me that is worrying. Get that lad across the sea, looking around, talking to the manager, medical, personal terms ASAP. Not 5 days later when you could have been mistaken for a lack of ambition in the signature, or potentially lose out to a rival bid.
As for Debuchy, would have loved him to be signed up by now. I think waiting to final days leaves problems after the season has already begun.
We could lose our first PL matches and be on a downer in confidence by the time we decide to try again. I think confidence is under valued you need only look at the start of last season when we had the unbeaten run to see what confidence can do. Then look at the likes of Ba or Torres when you dry up on goals, and cant effectively buy one, all because you have no confidence!
It is vital to start well, it will allow us to take the next step to Greece and then to Chelsea. From that point 3 wins would have allowed us to push forward, especially given Spurs and Chelsea are 2 of those 3!
I think I am asking too much but PL fixtures alone I would be happy with 3 points out of the first 2 games! Especially with the Greece fixture between.
146 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:55 AM
LG – exactly. If people are complaining about Eds work they should just leave, they don’t have to stay here.
147 London Geordie // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:57 AM
Hi, im new to this blog but have read with avid interest the clashing opinions on it! I have seen people make the point that Ashley isnt a good negotiator, well he is very successfull in the business world so surely he can manage a football transfer. Might be time to use some of his bulk and just beat people up over transfers, that Lille chairman is a right TW@
148 Made a ma beed // Aug 15, 2012 at 10:57 AM
Ameobi, pleased to hear it mate! Be careful next time, I once did it and put an eleven inch scar on me rut!
149 LGFUAD21 // Aug 15, 2012 at 11:00 AM
To have your right to an opinion only to use it to try and impose on others right to an opinion.
Thats a bit of a paradox. 2 or more statements that lead to a contradiction.
150 pardews plan B // Aug 15, 2012 at 11:01 AM
@Beattie Im not telling. Its a secret. But you must believe me completely
151 Southern Pride // Aug 15, 2012 at 11:01 AM
———————Krul——————
Debuchy—-Mbiwa—-Colo—–Sakho
——–Cabaye—–Tiote——Anita—–
—Ben Arfa——-Cisse——-Mirallas–
Subs – Harper, Saylor, Santon, Jonas, Marv,Obertan, Ba
YAY OR NAY???
152 dave 1961 // Aug 15, 2012 at 11:02 AM
tequilamag @90
the sell on was on the whole fee as Ashley screwed them, the Liverpool director was sacked for failing to realize the little error, they were so desperate for a deal they failed to read the contract properly, or maybe they could never envisage Carroll leaving.
153 AMEOBI // Aug 15, 2012 at 11:02 AM
Ameobi, pleased to hear it mate! Be careful next time, I once did it and put an eleven inch scar on me rut!
Where do you come from seriously lol fking hell lad haha
154 Beattie25 // Aug 15, 2012 at 11:03 AM
Got to love the new chronicle news story:
‘Anita’s agent to get a cut from the nufc transfer fee’
Doesn’t that apply to all agents?
Slow news day me thinks!
155 mickhall4 // Aug 15, 2012 at 11:04 AM
@pieceofpapiss
Full name is Chris Michael Hall
I have always been called Mick though. I played for Oldham when i was young so your talking nearly 5 years ago.
I was on Wiki and Google so check that, i’m not going to lie on here.
And yeah, don’t tell Ms Taylor I’ve mentioned her here.
156 Beattie25 // Aug 15, 2012 at 11:06 AM
LFGUAD
To allow everyone freedom you have to restrict their freedom.
Paradox hour live on nufcblog.com
157 jesperfuglsang // Aug 15, 2012 at 11:07 AM
ppB…did I read correctly last night; were you moving or something? didn’t get it all
158 Made a ma beed // Aug 15, 2012 at 11:08 AM
Beattie–Watch out Jimmy Magpie is training to chin you!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgOJyV08xp8&feature=related
159 Rotonda heights // Aug 15, 2012 at 11:13 AM
Magpies fly high
Can’t agree. I think Llambias is a brilliant negotiator. The type of pit bull you need on your side. He’s not liked but just look at all the amazing deals we have pulled off. If we go soft other clubs will pick up on that. We do business on our terms.
160 tequilamag // Aug 15, 2012 at 11:13 AM
Dave 152 Source for that info?
161 Rotonda heights // Aug 15, 2012 at 11:15 AM
Southern pride
hell YAY!! Could you imagine
162 Rowan Milsted // Aug 15, 2012 at 11:19 AM
Still no real news then in what is becoming a slightly frustrating transfer window. I say ‘slightly’ because I’m still delighted with the 3 youngsters we’ve signed and our general focus on developing youth, which is great to see. However, the things annoying me most are as follows:
1) If I had £1 for every time I’ve written or read the words ‘we need a CB and a striker’ then I’d probably be able to buy Carroll back for twice the fee Liverpool paid for him, with enough left over for a holiday in Spain.
2) The Debouchy saga has turned into a protracted, boring affair where the only news is that he wants to come, we want him to come… and yet here we are.
3) We are already faced with a list of worrying injuries that have highlighted the fact that, despite the quality we have, our squad is simply too thin to cope with the amount of games we have to play this season. Oh, and I see we failed to get the date for our first qualifying game changed. Bet Man Utd would have succeeded. Funny that.
It’s not all doom and gloom of course, and there’s still time to get players in. Anita will be a great addition to the team but we’re still in need of players in other positions (I’m not going to say it again). We don’t know what deals are going on behind closed doors and Pards and co have managed to pull surprise signings out of thin air before, so there’s no reason to suppose we won’t do it again. But everything is so damn quiet… too quiet! We’re not the only ones I suppose, everyone’s had a relatively quiet window so far (except bloody Chelsea) but it’s getting to the point now where I am slightly concerned. A couple of long-term injuries could knock the stuffing out of our season.
Hope I’m not being too pessimistic, things are still generally good and we have some great young players on the fringe of our team, so in that respect it’s very exciting times for us. I just feel this is the season where we can really push forward, cement ourselves in the top 6 of the EPL and maybe have a European/domestic cup run. At the moment I just feel that our squad won’t be able to cope – not in terms of quality, but in terms of depth. Currently we will be relying on a lot of these new/young players to make their mark very quickly – which could be a very good thing if they do (better than them rotting on the bench a la Man City). I’m rambling now, guess I’m just a little frustrated.
163 Transfer Sage // Aug 15, 2012 at 11:21 AM
Thanks Beattie
I have had more time recently to engage and I know that I shouldn’t claim anything as fact.
But I do known somebody in the club, I obviously cannot name them, but they are by no means high up.
They hear rumours as do tw rest of us but they will be right 15% of the time compared to with the average fan who is maybe 5% so I should report stuff as rumour not fact.
164 nico // Aug 15, 2012 at 11:21 AM
LGFUAD21
Pretty much what Pardew said the other night in the Charity event. He talked a bit about formation. Never specifically stated any formation as he said it depended on the opposition.
He did however say we’d have 1 up top with 1 playing off him, either Carbs or Ba. In other words 4-2-3-1 with 2 attacking wingers, but this could then change to 4-4-2 if needs be.
165 Transfer Sage // Aug 15, 2012 at 11:24 AM
Pawl
I agree 6mil is not a lot in today’s market but it is for us.
Xisco was 5mil but a flop.
With our new scouting we did mainly good players. I just thinking we won’t pay 7 million for debuchy (if reports are true) we surely won’t pay 6 for a back up player.
166 nico // Aug 15, 2012 at 11:29 AM
————————Krul————————–
Simo———-Saylor——Collo———Santon
—————Tiote——–Anita——————-
—Arfa————–Cabaye———Marv——-
———————-Ba or Cisse——————-
I think this would be Pardew’s line up if all players here now were available. Obviously he would like Debuchy as he would add attcking threat . The wingers would rotate from playing wide to coiming inside the give full backs room to bomb on. A very flexible system that would encourage good football.
What do you think?
167 dave 1961 // Aug 15, 2012 at 11:40 AM
tequilamag
i read it on the net on an article about liverpool it was given as one of the reasons that the financial director was sacked.
168 tequilamag // Aug 15, 2012 at 12:05 PM
No offence Dave but i find it difficult to believe. Comolli and Daglish were sacked for making poor buys. There has been no official word from either club that a sellon fee exists only press speculation, If there is a clause for 25%of any trans rather than profit on a transfer than it will be a first.Also im sure they have lawyers to check the fineprint cant see how that would have slipped thru by accident
169 Munster Mag // Aug 15, 2012 at 12:34 PM
I’m back to the same conclusions….If we want to move the club on, we need to paye about 20mill for about three players. Its not a mystery, and the club can faff on all they want about those bold boy agents etc tec . Sorry NUFC, but that the way it works. If the club will only but players to a certain cost level, then thats fair enough, although completely limiting in terms of development. We can get all the Biri’s we want, but sometime you need to pay up for proven quality. MA cant expect to get Cabaye deals forever, it just doesnt work that way. I think we can bin the Debuchy pursuit, and if so, the club has some questions to ask itself about the tactics employed in his pursuit.
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