Introducing Newcastle’s New Signing

Introducing Newcastle’s New Signing – Vurnon Anita

12:43 pm, Thursday, August 16th, 2012 by Ed Harrison · 454 Comments

With the signing of Vurnon Anita just announced, he will wear the number 8 shirt at Newcastle, we thought a brief bio on the lad would be helpful.

Vurnon Anita has been at Ajax since 1999, when he joined the Dutch club’s famous Youth Academy as a 10 year old, and he has progressed through the ranks, and Ajax is the only club he has ever played for, before he joined Newcastle United today.

Vurnon Anita – Newcastle United player

Vurnon is a right footed player, which is a little surprising since he played left-back for Ajax for a season a couple of years ago, but that means he can play in either full back position and in defensive midfield, so he is a top player and versatile too, and that’s just one reason he’s a great buy for the club.

Vurnon is a a Dutch footballer of Antillean descent and his family moved to the Netherlands in 1997, an it took a short two years before he was spootted by Ajax.

Anita turned 23 in April and is almost a year younger than his Dutch team mate Tim Krul, who will be pleased there’s now another Dutchman in the Newcastle ranks.

Season        League       KNVB Cup      Europe	    Total

            Apps  Goals  Apps  Goals  Apps  Goals  Apps  Goals
2005–06	     1	    0	  1	0	0    0	    2	  0
2006–07	     1	    0	  0	0	1    0	    2	  0
2007–08	     0	    0	  0	0	0    0      0     0
2008–09	    16	    0	  0	0	5    0     21     0
2009–10	    26	    0	  5	1	4    0	   35	  1
2010–11	    31	    3	  4	1      10    0	   45	  4
2011–12	    28	    2	  2	0	8    0	   36	  2

Total      103	    5	 12	2      28    0	  137	  7

The above is Vurnon’s complete playing career at Ajax, and he has appeared a total of 137 times with 7 goals.

Vurnon is not tall at 5’6″, and as a comparison Cheick Tiote is about 5’10″ tall and Yohan Cabaye just under 5’9″.

He was born in Willemstad, in the Netherlands Antilles, which are often called the Dutch Antilles, and are Islands in the Caribbean, and are now officially called the Dutch Caribbean Islands.

Vurnon became part of the first team squad at Ajax in March of 2006, when he was still 16, and he made his Eredivisie debut in the 3–2 defeat at FC Groningen.

Inn the 2009-10 season Anita became a first team regular at Ajax under new head coach Martin Jol, the former Tottenham manager and now Fulham manager, and because of the suspension of Urby Emanuelson and a long-time injury to Thimothée Atouba, Anita played at left back and he did very well in that position.

His performances for Ajax led him to gain his first Dutch cap in May of 2010, when he came on as a substitute in a 2-1 friendly win over Mexico, but he was not selected for the squad for the 2010 FIFA World Cup, and didn’t make the squad for the Euro 2012 tournament either.

He currently has 3 caps for Holland and we half expect Vurnon to make his debut at some stage during out first game of the season on Saturday against Tottenham Hotspur at St. James’ Park.

We heartily welcome Vurnon Anita to Newcastle United.

Comments welcome.

You can also reach Ed at admin@nufcblog.com

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Tags: Contracts · Newcastle News · Transfer News and Rumours · Vurnon Anita

454 responses so far ↓

1 superkrul // Aug 16, 2012 at 12:44 PM

Good lad bwt time next player please hwtl
2 stu.toon // Aug 16, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Can’t wait to see him in action in an nufc shirt
3 Shedzzzaa // Aug 16, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Anita woo licky arse
4 cupiddstunt // Aug 16, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Welcome to the mad house Vern m’boy
5 redondo77 // Aug 16, 2012 at 12:46 PM

first of all, welcome ANITA!

it means nomore Debuchy since he can also play lb or rb.

Congrats NUFC management to bring excellent player with reasonable price!
6 gndtoon // Aug 16, 2012 at 12:46 PM

From De boers comments, it backs up what we already know about the transfer policy … that we look at the personality of the player not just his talent.

side note:

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1130259/marseille-confirm-chelsea-approach-for-cesar?cc=5901

i know we were after this lad … would have preferred him to debuchy actually.
7 pawl250 // Aug 16, 2012 at 12:47 PM

From Previous Article – Repost!

MattyNUFC – Totally agree with your Pieters statement!

Cant see why so many want him to come! Hes a very average biscuit!

As for doubters still not convinced Anita will play midfield as I said maybe first few games or when Cabaye/Tiote combo aint playing. Just dont be suprised to hear “I told you so” when they are both fit and he lines up in the back four!

Although if he doesnt I am not a sour guy, I can admit I am wrong and will be happy to admit my prediction was incorrect! IF he plays midfield when Cabaye/Tiote are both fit.

Just cant see the Silver Fox dropping the Demba duo!
8 davybtoon // Aug 16, 2012 at 12:48 PM

anita is training with the squad right now

also anyone else think we could drop our left back search n play jonas at lb n santon rb i do

krul
santon staylor colo jonas
anita tiote
cabye
obertan cisse/ba marveux

would b my team v spurs
9 Valci // Aug 16, 2012 at 12:50 PM

repost:
Jay – like i said…with 2 CDM that both look to be starters…4-2-3-1 seems the most likely. Of course you can call it 4-3-3 but when you have 2 defensive midfielders and 1 offensive one that plays further up the pitch then it effectively turns into 4-2-3-1 with the CF advancing to make room for the CAM. At least that’s how i see it…
10 Fostino // Aug 16, 2012 at 12:50 PM

team to play spurs

krul
simpson taylor colo santon

tiote anita or marv
cabaye
ba cisse jonas
11 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 16, 2012 at 12:50 PM

he has the number 8 shirt for gods sake. He will not be played full back other than an emergency situation.
12 redondo77 // Aug 16, 2012 at 12:50 PM

gndtoon

yup, Anita is much better choice than Debuchy.

I don’t even know when people here started getting crazy over Debuchy.
Everyday I read “sign Debuchy”, like there is no other options available.
13 Shedzzzaa // Aug 16, 2012 at 12:51 PM

I agree with davybtoon about the jonas idea he works hard enough to be a full back
14 Fostino // Aug 16, 2012 at 12:52 PM

davytoon

i taught that myself if debuchy dont arrive..cant leave jonas out so he plays lb and santon at right. could be alright. fergusion could do us all a favour and concentrate on being a lb.
15 mattyNUFC // Aug 16, 2012 at 12:53 PM

davyb

i mentioned that last week about guti at LB

honestly, if it’s down to playing simmo or paying 8mil for debuchy who’s is no doubt good but no world-beater, i’d prefer guti back there

i REALLY hope we sign a young FB though as it stands. I don’t want pards to cave and throw anita there and revert back to his favored flat 442
16 cupiddstunt // Aug 16, 2012 at 12:53 PM

redondo77 @ # 12

I do honestly think Vernon is not here to fill a full back role
17 redondo77 // Aug 16, 2012 at 12:55 PM

cupid

there is no need to fill fb role, we have 6 fb available including jonas.
18 davybtoon // Aug 16, 2012 at 12:55 PM

come on man why can ppl not see anita has been bought to let cabaye play behind the striker specially against teams like spurs, arseanl, man utd, v other teams we may see 442 with ba n cisse but mainly we will see 4231
19 APBWA // Aug 16, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Definately think the formation will be 4-3-3, but unsure of the positioning of the forwards…

Could have ben arfa behind ba and cisse or two wingers…

But GREAT NEWS!!!
20 ToonDownSouth // Aug 16, 2012 at 12:55 PM

I can’t see anything other than 4-4-2 with Ba and Cisse up top for this first game.

Jonas on the left, Obertan/Sammy on the right, Simpson at RB, Santon at LB.
21 mattyNUFC // Aug 16, 2012 at 12:56 PM

….and again, my preferred back 4 as it stands would be

tav/santon….saylor/tav….colo….guti/santon

i know it’s not a concrete line-up but guti more than deserves to be in contention for a regular starting spot in some capacity and, as much as i love watching santon bomb down the wing, unless he is on the wing, he’s yet to warrant a spot in the way cabaye or colo or krul has
22 redondo77 // Aug 16, 2012 at 12:56 PM

oops 7fb including jonas
perch, santon, simpson, raylor, tav, fergie
23 ToonDownSouth // Aug 16, 2012 at 12:57 PM

redondo & mattyNUFC

You do have to wonder why no other team met Debuchy’s evaluation.

Everyone on her made out like he’s a world class RB, available for pittance, and we’re simply to cheap to both.

Interesting how no one else has come in then…
24 davybtoon // Aug 16, 2012 at 12:58 PM

mattynufc – id b happy with santon n jonas at full back, sebastian corchia is who we should sign for rb, as for ferguson needs to b played left wing for me n lb
25 Nufc-83 // Aug 16, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Why is our interest in debuchy over when clearly this lad wanted assurances he would play in his favoured position of cm.? You guys are idiots if you think parts would lie to him to get him to sign then play him fb for most of the season. He will play as part of a 3 man cm.
26 markmac // Aug 16, 2012 at 12:58 PM

welcome to the party Vern! HWTL
27 pieceofpapiss // Aug 16, 2012 at 12:58 PM

redondo77

Why on earth would we sign a Central Midfielder to play LB or RB?

It makes no sense. I feel the club are still persuing a RB of LB to fill the Simpson void. I dont thin the Debuchy deal is totally dead and the Douglas deal has gone quiet, in the same way the Anita deal did a few month ago.
28 stk85 // Aug 16, 2012 at 12:58 PM

repost as im not used to posting and working at a snails pace compared to Ed!

best thing about our summer signings is that we have offloaded about 150k a week wages and the signings we’ve made are on about 75k a week. great buisiness! we must now be the best run club in the country.

to follow on from a previous comment i reallz do wonder when and if UEFA will ever enforce their FFP rules with Man U spending 50 mill whilst 450 in debt. Shouldnt be allowed in the first place, but this is the way to run a club and we will benefit from this model in the next 5 zears when abramovich and the sheikhs wont be able to invest in theior teams any more, unless UEFA crumble as they usually do.

so now we have cabs, tiote, anita, gosling, vuckic, bigi, abeid in CM, jonas and amal too. sorted for wing options too. full backs i think so too, doesnt matter what happens with simmo now as we have him, santon, raylor, perch, jonas, anita.

would like to see a young solid CB, maybe Good will cover that, and a CF come in.
29 mattyNUFC // Aug 16, 2012 at 12:58 PM

davyb

but if we don’t get a FB in, will pards humiliate simmo by putting tavernier in over him? doubt it

it’s an honest concern. it’s not as farfetched as your mind wants to believe…

just like last year when you were SOOOO convinced HBA would NEVER under ANY circumstance play on the wing …don’t make me delve into last year’s posts!
30 redondo77 // Aug 16, 2012 at 12:58 PM

imagine if we do buy debuchy, we will have 8fb.
it’s crazy for a team to have 8 players for 2 positions, including anita that will be 9. that will be money wasted when you can use the money to buy a striker or cb
31 Nufc-83 // Aug 16, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Why is our interest in debuchy over when clearly this lad wanted assurances he would play in his favoured position of cm.? You guys are idiots if you think pards would lie to him to get him to sign then play him fb for most of the season. He will play as part of a 3 man cm.
32 ToonDownSouth // Aug 16, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Wow… here*, too*, bother*.
33 pieceofpapiss // Aug 16, 2012 at 12:59 PM

TDS

Inter Milan and Chelsea are interested. Milan already had abid rejected.
34 stk85 // Aug 16, 2012 at 12:59 PM

oh, forgot about Tavernier, covers fb and cb, but still, another signing wouldnt hurt considering how manz centre mids we have
35 davybtoon // Aug 16, 2012 at 12:59 PM

yea forget about tav b happy with at rb or lb
36 ToonDownSouth // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:01 PM

pieceofpapiss

1) Like I said, it’s interesting that no other club has matched Lille’s valuation of him.

2) I wouldn’t believe everything written in the press
37 redondo77 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:02 PM

nufc-83, pieceofpapiss

we have 7 fb already, if six of them injured anita can fill in, which is unlikely unless we are the most unlucky team in the world. why the hell you want to buy another player who can only play rb?
38 stk85 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:02 PM

who is this iraola of bilbao being mentioned? is he a fb?
39 davybtoon // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:02 PM

matty remember liverpool home last year jonas played lb n was brilliant if he played there everyweek he would get better n better n would allow santon to move to rb n he has already said pardew told him he would b our rb this season
40 mattyNUFC // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:02 PM

TDS

I mean, not to knock Debuchy as i’d still be ecstatic with his arrival, but there is a reason he is france’s third choice RB. He’s your antithesis to simmo….can cross, get involved in attacking play, but has defensive shortcomings

wouldn’t mind davyb’s shout for Corchea….never seen him play but at 21 and rated at 2mil and regarded quite highly, i think he, santon, guti and tavs would be more than adequate to take on this campaign
41 redondo77 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:02 PM

i’m not saying he is playing fb role, im saying he can play both rb or lb too
42 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:02 PM

My team for Spurs if Ben Arfa is Fit

——————————–Krul———————————-

–Simpson——–Taylor———(c)Collocini——Santon–

—————–Anita———————–Tiote——————

—–HBA——————Cabaye————————Ba—–

——————————Cisse———————————–

If Ben Arfa is injured then swap him with Marveaux. As for ba he will just have to suck it up and play slightly on the left again, its not as if he didn’t have chances last season whilst playing out there he was just unlucky IMO
43 Fostino // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:03 PM

pardrew identified our weakness at the end of last year. our defence considing too many goals and we not scoring enough form set pieces.

he has not solved this problem yet so expect some activity before sep. he needs that commanding cb who will chip in with a few goals and wb is a position he wants to improve whether its debuchy or pieters that comes in
44 Valci // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:03 PM

pieceofpapiss – maybe they have entertained the notion of signing Debuchy…but so far nobody has seemed to meet the valuation Lille have put on him?…why is that i wonder…
45 Beattie25 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:04 PM

Now that Anita has signed is anyone else nervous that we might sell Anita?
46 davybtoon // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:04 PM

stk85 – yea he is n hes 30 but hes a hell of a player think u will remember this what he did last year

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oyne7D2Pkck
47 check the toastie // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:04 PM

Krul
Perch Tayls Collo Santon
Mr T Big Vern
Marv/Gab Cabaye Jonas
Cisse

Solid first 11, probably would bring Marveuax on slowly the boy is super injury prone, give him 30 mins for Obertan, Dont think Jonas really works at full back, although i love the bloke think his time might be numbered as first choice for a start, however due to him being a superstar i think it will push him on to new heights to regain his place.

Marveaux is clearly much more of an attacking threat than Jonas. Would play him but just feel its a bit harsh on Gutti.
48 ToonDownSouth // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:05 PM

mattyNUFC

Without trying to sound like a complete parody of this blog – Corchia is fantastic on FM (; If you ask Cabaye to recommend you a RB, he picks Corchia haha.
49 pawl250 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Cabaye is not match fit according to Pardew so would be doubtful to start the game against Spurs for those who selected him in the team.

I would have 4-4-2 against Spurs:

Krul

Simpson – STaylor – Colo – Santon

Jonas – Tiote – Anita – Marveaux

Ba – Cisse

If Cabaye happened to be fit and available for selection I would have:

Krul

Santon – STaylor – Colo – Anita

Jonas – Tiote – Cabaye – Marevaux

Ba – Cisse
50 redondo77 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:05 PM

TDS

Debuchy is overpriced, because we were interested, they thought Debuchy can be a hit like Cabaye. but not with the price Lille asking.
51 ToonDownSouth // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:06 PM

Anita chants, anyone?

I read a great one on twitter. “Anita Hero”, to the tune of Bonnie Tyler’s Holding Out For A Hero.

Any more?
52 WWYCD // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:06 PM

Start of a flood or end of a drip who knows

Welcome aboard Anita look forward to seeing u lad. Rackon Anita will allow Tiote to get forward as well as Cabs tbh
53 davybtoon // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:06 PM

mattynufc – hes a video of sebastian corchia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR0uwk85SHQ
54 cupiddstunt // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:06 PM

redondo77 @ # 30

Sorry but what do you mean 8fb’s???

We have some players that can cover several positions but we only have 2 players that are fb’s
55 arroeben // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:08 PM

He’ll be playing in midfield!!
56 redondo77 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Chelsea was readying 10mil pound for Debuchy, I don’t believe that story. it’s like 13 mil euro, when Lille was asking for 8.4mil euro
57 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:08 PM

I really can’t believe some people on here think Anita is gunna play LB.

As for no-one else going for Debuchy, Is it not because he has been quoted saying that he wants to come here ? that would put allot of clubs off and I would still love him to sign
58 Beattie25 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:08 PM

I love how we are all arguing already. Ha ha

If one more person states that we do not need a FB because Anita has signed I’m going to start indiscriminately shooting cute animals like bear cubs, kittens and chicks.

I swear I’ll do it.
59 ~Anita One Bites the Dust~ // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:09 PM

My name change was not in vain.
60 LGFUAD21 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:09 PM

Said it a hundred times but I feel really good about tis transfer. This guy will bring lots to the team.

He is young and already shown quality. The fee is a bargain. He could well become the dutch Pirlo (who you know Im a huge fan of). He has the promising signs.

For big games I think this guy will play in a midfield 3 with Tiote and Cabaye. Either in a 4-3-3 or a 4-5 1 variation.

From what has been said (Anita will only join after learning about his role etc) I dont understand how people think it is a case of either/or with this lad and Cabs and Tiote. Yes maybe when it comes to resting players for big cup games. But not always.

Pardew experimented with 4-3-3 towards the end of last season. And has been doing the same with 4-2-3-1 in pre season. Both formation show there is a place for Anita to play.

Our best performances last season were a result of either dominating midfield (Man U), maintaining possession or the perfect execution of Counter attacks (West Brom). Anita’s passing ability, tackling ability and work rate (always pressing players) will help us do the first 2 more. While for counter football, he will help solidify a narrow or more vacuous midfield.

A new full back and CB will potentially upgrade us their but I think this signing will have the biggest impact on the whole team. We never closed down teams fast enough last season.
61 WWYCD // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:09 PM

Am sure Anitas played in goal before…Christ we are selling Krul lads!
62 redondo77 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:10 PM

cupid

I think there is only one player who can cover fb, he is Jonas.
I’m looking at nufc.co.uk and wiki.
63 ToonDownSouth // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:10 PM

One day I’m going to make a video of Simpson, making him out to be the new Cafu.

Then I’ll upload it to Youtube, and post it on loads of European club’s blog. We’ll see it they all get obsessed with him.
64 jesperfuglsang // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:10 PM

I think Pardew likes to operate wirt a smaller squad, but with more versatile players; a bit like Barcelona.

Michael Laudrup is even quoated for saying that’s how he intends to do it at Swansea.

You need a first team of no more than 22-23 players, the rest is made up of development players.
65 Magpie from Lithuania // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:10 PM

davybtoon // Aug 16, 2012 at 12:48 PM

that’s what i was thinking about, but i see 4-4-2 from the start of the game. Remember we’ve beaten MU 3-0 playing 4-4-2
66 Magpies-till-d3ath // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Krul
Santon Colo Saylor Jonas
———–Tiote————
——-Anita—–Marveaux–
———-Cabaye———–
——-Cisse——Ba—-

That would be my team v spurs. Delighted with the Anita signing!
67 Crab Eye // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:11 PM

Liverpool putting together a 20M plus Carroll offer together for Anita!!!
68 redondo77 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:11 PM

Beattie

We don’t need FB
69 stu.toon // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:12 PM

I would love to see cabaye given a free role
70 check the toastie // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:12 PM

Cabaye will be as fit as he needs to be playing in front of Big Vern and Mr T,

Davy – gotta say Jonas got a bit of a roasting at times off Bellemy at the start of the game, think him against Lennon might not be great. Think he cud defo improve as full back, not sure whether this game is the one to through him in , however with 2 holding midfielder plugging gaps it might just be perfect.
71 Magpie from Lithuania // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:12 PM

ToonDownSouth, great idea! you might raise the value of the player ashley will send you a christmas postcard
72 LGFUAD21 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:12 PM

ANITA IS A CM. THe only time we’ll see him at full back is if we are really struggling in these positions. This is the only reason he played there at Ajax. He wouldnt have signed for us had we had that in our plans for him.

He doesnt like playing in that position.
73 nufc 11 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:12 PM

—————— Krul————————
S.Taylor—-Colo—-Douglas—Anita
————–Cabaye–Tiote———-
Santon——–Cisse——-Ba
74 Fostino // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:13 PM

would you rather 15m for rodwell or 6.6 for anita……am anita anyday

not lets sort the defence. oh nd wen cisse nd ba go to AFCN, we’ll only have ameobi as a recognised striker..yikes!!
75 Hoodrat- // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:13 PM

Riighhhttttt i’ve just read through the comments and im appauled that ive been slated! i picked this fella up contrary to rubbish paper reports of him landing yesterday. Im open to apologies when everyone’s ready.
76 Nick 69 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:13 PM

David Craig on SSN, saying although its undisclosed fee over here, they have to disclose the fee over in Holland above a certain amount, and its around 6million Euros, sounds even better than I thought now if thats true. Reports were saying 8.5million Euros
77 ToonDownSouth // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:13 PM

A-nita hero, Anita hero till the end of the night
He’s gotta be strong and he’s gotta be fast
And he’s gotta be fresh from the fight

A-nita hero! A-nita hero till the mornin’ light!
He’s gotta be sure and it’s gotta be soon
And he’s gotta be larger than life

Come on guys… any more?

Just stop the constant LB/CM back and forth!
78 mattyNUFC // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:13 PM

my team if cabaye and HBA are out…

santon….saylor…colo….guti

……..anita……..tiote………….
…………abeid/amal…………..
ba……………………..marvs….
………….cisse…………………..

i know people are pulling for him and i know he showed glimpses in pre-season, but i need to see more from Gosling before i sing his praises. can get into great goal-scoring positions a la kevin nolan, but, there’s a reason we got rid of nolan….sadly, i’m kind of in the ABG mindset at present…..Anybody But Gosling
79 Toon73 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:13 PM

Hi Vurnon !

Debuchy will end up here that is for certain…just not this window IMO.

Pieters, Toivonen, and Douglas for another £14 gives us a net spend this window of about £15 and we have totally strengthened key positions for a push into Europe
80 LGFUAD21 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:14 PM

And for anyone still unsure as to what Anita can do.

Remember Tiote against Manure? I’ve seen Anita do that in several games for Ajax.
81 Magpie from Lithuania // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:14 PM

@65, yes it’s generally our strongest line-up and i was thinking about it last day, but against spurs it’s not going to be effective as they play wide, lenon and bale will have far too much space..
82 jesperfuglsang // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:14 PM

Are we now calling a 5 ft 6 in player Big Vern?
83 redondo77 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:15 PM

LGFUAD

can you give me his statement that he doesn’t like playing fb? because DeBoer his coach said he gave you 300% in any position and never complain.
84 Rake // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:15 PM

@ Davybtoon

I posted the same line up yesterday would give a good balance to the team that is for sure.
85 jesperfuglsang // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:15 PM

Maybe we should call Saylor Little Steve lol
86 BelfastMagpie87 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:16 PM

3 man midfield then??
87 ToonAndy // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:16 PM

For the last time you bellends!!!

Is Alan Pardews press conference on sky sports news or what!? Lol
88 pawl250 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Stk85 -

These fair play rules are a joke. It doesnt stop anything from happening as teams like Man City have shown with the massive advertisement from the owners airline!

It would be classed as money injected therefore balancing the books in the process! Its alot more complicated than the above but they are the basics points! Ok so you maybe restricted to spending 100m on one player, but these teams will still be able to buy players for 20-30m easily.

You cannot stop teams with these new rules coming in! It will on have an effect on teams without billionaire owners that cant inject money via another source.

It would also allow these clubs to purchase clubs players like say Everton for example at a cheaper rate than before, as they will be more desperate for money!

This would mean the gap effectively we get even bigger in terms of quality, especially in Europe when Barcelona and Real Madrid will have no such rules.

We are OK for money, yes but we will never be able to catch the big boys unless we do an Arsenal. They bought wisely and the players all come together and hit primes at the same time. It seems this is why Newcastle have a strong youth policy, in the process if we dont have a team competing we can sell one youth player for 20-30m allowing us to improve our squad with 2-3 players in the process.

Its ran like a business now our club and thats a good thing, but has its limitations. It will require some luck to have the right players at the right time!
89 redondo77 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Beattie

We don’t need FB, how many cute animals have you shot?
90 jayphoto // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:16 PM

thought Pardews number 1 want from this window was a goal scoring centre half so really expect one of them! Still got a feeling the douglas deal is done though!
Never know, this could be Fergie’s break through season at left back?? wouldn’t play jonas at full back when we don’t need to, his work rate is high but his tackling and defensive positional play leaves a lot to be desired!
91 paul6257 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:17 PM

Before everyone gets too excited about the arrival of Anita, i have a strong feeling he’s Tiotes replacement who is on his way to Chelsea or Man U.
92 WWYCD // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:17 PM

TDS
I like it though not sure I could hear it coming out of the Gallowgate tbh
93 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:17 PM

Also Jonas at LB ? did anyone see him playing there for Argentina ? he was shocking
94 BelfastMagpie87 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:17 PM

I doubt his full press confernce will be on like.

Probably a 30 second clip,if your lucky…
95 redondo77 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:18 PM

Bigpappa Cisse

he didn’t play lb, he played rb with argentina
96 LGFUAD21 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:19 PM

GOOD ARTICLE HERE ON ANITA

Picked out the key bits below

http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2012/08/16/vurnon-anita-versatile-midfielder-who-can-dictate-the-tempo-at-newcastle-united/

and The Independent are probably one of the better sources on football. Were the most accurate with their season preview last year, down to how teams will play not just positions.

“The new Newcastle number eight favours a defensive midfield role, although he has more ability and passing range than Cheick Tioté, another Newcastle midfielder signed from the Dutch league. Pardew faces a selection dilemma (whether to drop Tioté) as Anita can complement the excellent Yohan Cabaye and form an impressive partnership, whilst also taking on the role that the Ivorian midfielder delivers. Although at just 5ft 6in Anita may lack the height of his Premier League rivals, his movement and ball retention can help him win midfield battles. The 23-year-old is not just a ball-winner but also a controlling playmaker who can help Newcastle build from the back and provide consistent supply to the likes of Cabaye, Jonas Gutiérrez and Hatem Ben Arfa. This should mean Newcastle can expect to have a more balanced and fluid midfield this season depending on the tactical choices of Pardew.”

“The acquisition of the Dutch international from the Amsterdam giants indicates that the Newcastle manager is willing to explore variations to the game plan of The Magpies after their impressive Premier League campaign last season in which they finished fifth. Pardew will more than likely explore the possibility of fielding Anita alongside Tioté and Cabaye in a five-man midfield for instance against tougher opposition or in away fixtures.”

“Anita provided defensively stability, ball retention and helped de Godenzonen move the ball quicker and play a quicker tempo.”
97 BelfastMagpie87 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:19 PM

Jonas will be on the bench,if it’s a 3 man midfield..
98 mickhall4 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:20 PM

@nufc11

You having a laugh with that team? As i started reading it, half way down i thought you were going to have perch up top with williamson

Iraola plays right back, if they fail with this lad they’ll sign Bosingwa on a free for RB. Not surprising since we’ve been linked with him before
99 ToonDownSouth // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:20 PM

WWYCD

No, it’s not really a football chant is it (; I just read it on twitter and it made me laugh.

There’s got to be some good ones. Especially if we’re nicking him ‘Big Vern’
100 redondo77 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:20 PM

if Tiote is leaving, I hope it’s for 35mil
101 mattyNUFC // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:21 PM

davyb

his pace alone would be worth having in our team judging by that video

sure it’s youtube, but you can tell by his movement and passing…he is a classy player
102 Kyo // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:21 PM

I am now going to stop being a negative nancy. No more lust for new signings. We finally got one over the line!! woo!

Now fingers crossed no injuries on Saturday and hopefully DL/MA will pursue more signings.
103 pieceofpapiss // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:22 PM

In the style of Fernando by ABBA:

There was some one on that pitch tonight
His boots were white
Anita
He was scoring maybe 2 or 3
For NUFC
Anita
He tackles f**king hard, with no regrets.
REPEAT
104 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:22 PM

@ Redondo 77

well that makes all the difference then. Let me clear a few things up

1. Jonas is not a full back
2. Neither is Shane Fergusson
3. Anyone that thinks Anita is here to play left back should be declared clinically insane
105 jayphoto // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:23 PM

@86 – Financial fair play went out of the window the moment PSG spent 40m on Javier Pastore last season! PSG’s finances will be constantly overlooked now! Also, theres rumours that Qatari’s may buy another french side, possibly Marseille, monaco or St Ettiene if the PSG win Ligue 1 too easily to keep competition high!
106 Spreadthetoon // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:24 PM

This is a great signing and will transform our midfield! VA is gonna be playing in midfield, so we do need to shore up RB. Debuchy for me is the missing link. CB with Perchino, Good etc should be alright, so another striker I reckon.
Minimum wishlist Debuchy and then Remy in that order. Douglas would just be the icing on the cake if were gonna go for a CB.
107 redondo77 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:25 PM

LGFUAD

there is no statement he didn’t like lb position, but I trust you more than DeBoer, he is liar.
108 Jail for Ashley // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:25 PM

redondo77,
and what would you do with that 35 million,buy a new car perhaps,a cruise in the Carribean or you could even treat your self to a directors box to watch our depleted midfield.
109 cupiddstunt // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:26 PM

Jesper @ # 80

Absolutely he’s “big Vern” it’s a British thing to reverse the name.

Just like “lofty” in “It Ain’t Half Hot”
110 mattyNUFC // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:26 PM

big pappa

agree about fergie…a winger through and through

jonas….you could stick in goal and he’d do a job for you
111 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:26 PM

Here are some pics of Anita training

http://www.nufc.co.uk/page/News/Gallery/0,,10278~2886836,00.html

He is the definitely the Dutch Pirlo like
112 LGFUAD21 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:26 PM

Toon73

To sign Pieter, Toivonen and Douglas this window and Debuchy in january would be excellent. We can only dream.

I dont think Tiote is going anywhere. Think clubs were put off by his reluctance to leave in the past coupled with the prices quoted by MA.

I wouldnt mind Jonas at LB to give more attacking prowess to a defensive midfield of T, C and V.

I think he’s put in some good defensive performances for us. I know he is not great there but feel he can put in a shift.
113 Magpie from Lithuania // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:27 PM

then the squad numbers will be confirmed?
114 redondo77 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:27 PM

JFA

LOL, i just replying #89
115 Magpie from Lithuania // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:27 PM

when the squad numbers will be confirmed?
116 jayphoto // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:27 PM

@redondo 77 – Jonas played left back in the qualifiers to the world cup before being switched to right back for the tournament! remember him getting absolutely massacred by Antonio Valencia when argentina lost to ecuador!
117 pawl250 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Tiote will not be leaving unless its serious money being thrown around!

Wouldnt worry about that, I am confident we will keep our big players, they will stay for atleast another window.

If we are performing badly by January you may see some of our stars leaving. I dont think this will happen, as I am confident to atleast be in the top half of the table. We should be ok, but never say never!
118 surreytoon // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Gosh, we make a signing and a whole bunch of nutjobs turn up posting formations like the well known 4-2-3, putting Anita at LB and and declaring our search for a LB/RB over!

We need a specialist LB/RB; yes Santon may move to RB, but then we need a LB. Raylor, Perch, and even Jonas who I quite fancy in those positions is not a long term solution.
119 BelfastMagpie87 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Yea Platini moaned & moaned about the english clubs spending money.

Then Psg started to do it & he said nowt…

Hate that we c*** lol
120 dave 1961 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:29 PM

this signing makes it even more important to get 2 good fullbacks as its going to invite teams to attack us down the flanks with 2 great lumps of steel blocking the center, this will force teams to attack our flanks.
121 Spuggy // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Great news on this signing, have a feeling this lad will complete that midfield trio with Jonas being deployed elsewhere or used as backup/rotation.

The resilience at FB that Anita brings now opens up the way for us to:

- Sell Simpson (rather than lose him for free)
- Buy Debuchy (or equivilent)
- Buy CB

Now that Ba is staying, I think we can get by on our current striker options given that Ba and Cisse may be knocked out the ACoN by Ivory Coast. In any event, most of the latter games are played in Feb, so we can still buy a Striker in Jan if need be. Priorities are now FB and CB.
122 LGFUAD21 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:30 PM

redondo77

Cant remember where i saw it but google enough and you’ll find the article.

De Boer may say 300% in any position. That just means he’s a good character and is willing to. Doesnt mean he likes it.

He is no full back to me (not primarily, to cover maybe). and that people are saying he will be shocks me because they are the same people that criticise Simmo for not being an attacking full back !?&*”!@
123 ToonDownSouth // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:31 PM

dave 1961

Anita isn’t a great lump of steel – he’s 5 foot 6!

JfA

You’ve been pretty down about everything lately.. Why?
124 rivettCatcher // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:31 PM

CENTRE BACKS!!!

Great news on Anita. Really great news. Still need a CD & a better RB to improve the team and squad.

Still have dreams of signing Mbiwa!
125 BOOM BOOM THE 1ST // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:31 PM

cant believe how many people are saying hes a better option than Debuchy just because someone fills in a position doesn’t make them a full back for crying out loud so ba is a winger now is he. hes another piece of the jigsaw and hopefully hes followed by douglas cissokho and a striker heres hoping anyway.
126 LGFUAD21 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:32 PM

dave 1961

Great acknowledgement there pal.
127 mattyNUFC // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:32 PM

we def shouldn’t underplay this signing…if we get a FB who performs and fill out the rest in January if we choose to forego further signings this summer….we could very well challenge for 4th. Anita will change the entire dynamic of the team for the better
128 redondo77 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:32 PM

big pappa

it doesn’t matter what status the player has. if he was declared DM but he can play better as CB, does he have to play as DM only for the rest of his life because his status said DM?
Curtis Good was a striker before CB, does he has to play as a striker? Does he need to change his birth certificate or work permit because he play as CB? if a player is doing a good job in a position his coach told him to play, then he can be that a player for that position.
129 dave 1961 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:33 PM

BelfastMagpie87 have to agree with what you say about psg the silence is defining, but what about the Spanish giants they are run by bankrupt banks, and subsidized by EU taxpayers. Spanish club debt averages out at almost £500m per club.
130 t00ntime // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:34 PM

Wud people stop posting squads with ba on the wing…. It wont happen

Ba wants to have a central roll and pardew promised 90% of his games he will play there so either behind cisse or upfront with cisse or bench

Maybe 1game he will play on the wing but thats it…

@surreytoon about 4-2-3 fromation who get sent off? xD
131 Kyo // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:34 PM

Anita said on nufcTV’s interview that he can play in fullback positions BUT he enjoys playing midfield and is looking to play midfield.

He won’t be used as fullback unless the mackems go in with 2 feet on our players.
132 Kyo // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:35 PM

Anita also said he had a chat with Pards about position. He will be a midfielder for us.
133 pawl250 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:35 PM

Spuggy – I agree, our defence is below average in ability if you ask me!

Only one I actually rate is Colo

Santon has potential, and STaylor is good, but injury prone!

Other than that I just dont rate them. Perch has his better days in midfield, which will be limited.

I would buy a full back and Douglas ASAP! Its a much needed acquisition!

Debuchy and Douglas would be my choice. Have said it from the start of the window, and Ive been wanting Douglas at the club since this time last season!

Think had STaylor stayed fit we could have actually been in the CL spots, I know 4th ended up a EL slot in the end but seriously that is the difference just 1/2 players!
134 davybtoon // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:35 PM

just been looking on offical site n the following numbers have changed

krul – no 1
bigiramana – no 20
amalfitano – no 17
abeid – no 39
anita – no 8
good – no 32
135 LGFUAD21 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:35 PM

jayphoto

Jonas was at RB in tourno. Now to us english minded route one people this makes no sense as he is right footed. But in the modern game, especially at international level were attacking players tend to cut in rather than go down to the by line this actually does make sense.

It means that your stronger foot is in a better position to prevent this happening. If it comes to either or you want to push the player out wide and restrict their space, they’ll either have to play backwards or force a cross, which a lot of european and international teams are actually getting worse at using.
136 LGFUAD21 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:36 PM

Right guys, after seeing the photos and following on from earlier discussion I can confirm Anita does in fact have 2 nipples.
137 redondo77 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:36 PM

I never saw an article regarding personal chat between AP and Anita, mybe I missed some articles.
138 ashwin say's // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:37 PM

finally something to chear for…..
139 ToonDownSouth // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:37 PM

Anita speaks English very well.
140 davybtoon // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:37 PM

think douglas will b a last day signing

and also newcastle rumours someone commented saying they deliver the eggs to the training ground and that anita would b there wednesday wich they got right and that a striker is coming tomorrow so lets see if there right again
141 surreytoon // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:38 PM

@t00ntime

Dunno, ask the person who posted it!
142 redondo77 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:39 PM

can someone give me a link regarding personal chat between AP and Anita?
143 LGFUAD21 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:39 PM

redondo77

An unbelievable amount of players come through academies as strikers. Perch was one through Forest academy
144 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:39 PM

Anyone who doubts Anita should have a look at all the players that have left Ajax in the past

Tiote, Van Persie, Kluivert, Seedorf, Dost, De jong, Suarez, Vertonghen, Van Nistelrooy, Huntelaar, Robben, Van Bommel, Farfan, Labyad, Park Ji-Sung, Ronaldo, Chivu, Babel, Davids, Ibramhimovic, Pienaar, Sneijder, Van Der Vaart, Stam, Hyypia, Dembele
145 mattyNUFC // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:40 PM

toontime

notice in my line-up it says “my” team as in me, I, mattyNUFC to you, would put Ba on the wing. Whether he likes it or not, he does a superb job for us out there

if i were manager though, my starting front three would be HBA….cisse/ba…..marveaux

i would sit down with both cisse and ba and say if you score, you play, if you don’t, the next match you (cue other demba) play

but hey, maybe that’s why i’m not manager, but why mess with our 433/4231 if it aint broken?
146 Magpie27 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:41 PM

ANITA = TIOTES REPLACEMENT????
147 pawl250 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:42 PM

Toontime! THANK YOU!

I 200% agree with you, and finally someone who actually listens to noises from within the club rather than just taking a wild stab!

Do you people think Demba Ba will stay after Jan window if

1. He plays out of position he was promised not too
2. Sits on bench as back up!

I know I wouldnt stay, this guy looks huffy if he replaced 86mins into a match! What do you think he will be like to miss 86mins of a match!?

4-2-3-1 will only happen a few times this season, or if one of the Demba duo is injured.

Can see him playing out wide a few times too but to an extent he has openly stated as has Pardew that Ba will be playing a more central role the majority of this season!
148 mattyNUFC // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:43 PM

big pappa

tiote, de jong, hyypia, dembele, farfan, and ji-sung, to name a lot, never played for ajax
149 Spuggy // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:43 PM

Anita is a DMF, he will be used as cover at FB. He will mostly play in a three-man meidfield along with Tiote, and Cabaye in front.

It means we will get the best out of Cabaye this season which is a massive bonus. I think we will get 10 goals out of Cabaye this season with tiote and anita behind him.

The only areas of weakness in the first 11 are at both FB positions. However, Santon is young, has technical ability and capacity to improve so I would stick with him at LB.

Debuchy is the remaining peice of the jigsaw to give us a international class team in every position.
150 Jail for Ashley // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Spuggy,
I think I’d be more than happy with that,I think they’ll go into overdrive to get a RB in now as I don’t think anyone will buy Simmo in January,can’t stress the importance of getting a quality CB in this window though,and a striker we can probably get by with what we’ve got till January the lads on total sport were saying that Pards sees HBA as more of a number 10 so were not to bad up top really.
151 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:45 PM

@ Matty Nufc

Sorry Haha, I meant to say the Dutch league not Ajax
152 pawl250 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:45 PM

Big Pappa Cisse -

Tiote never played for Ajax ever! nor has Van Persie?!

I stopped reading after that as I think you have just had a wild guess!
153 Jail for Ashley // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:46 PM

TDS,
Wasn’t aware mate,maybe the tedium of this window.
154 ichrisho // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:47 PM

Just saw his interview on NUFC and he seems like a top bloke and is genuinely delighted to be joining us!!! Come on 3 more!!!
155 redondo77 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:47 PM

Van bommel was PSV, wasn’t he?
156 cupiddstunt // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:47 PM

redondo77 @ # 135

Just to try and stop you posting pisshhhhh

Just for you

Especially his quote in the last three lines
157 LGFUAD21 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:48 PM

ToonDownSouth

About Anitas height. Not always a bad thing being short. Better centre of gravity which gives him strength on the ball. Sometimes an advantage being shorter when getting tackles in.

Im 5’6 now and the only reason I got games when i must’ve been about 5’2/5’3 is because I 1)understood the game better than my peers and didnt just want to be Ronaldo (fat one back then), i preferred the passing game. but mainly because 2) It was near enough impossible for the bigger kids to wrestle me off the ball. The ball was more shielded than the taller guys. Who I could nick it off with relative ease.

I coulda been one hell of a holding midfielder if i didnt have asthma, break too many bones skateboarding and a left foot (which is literally non existent) and could shoot. Unfortunately academies back then only wanted kids that could run super fast and/or shoot well at that young an age. No attention to other qualities.

BTW I’m half joking here. Im not this arrogant.

I was also surprisingly athletic for a short stocky kick. Better scorer with my head than my feet.
158 davybtoon // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:49 PM

rvp to man utd by end of today fergie confirmed will make his debut at everton
159 ToonDownSouth // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:50 PM

Anita says the teams target is the top 4.

Pardew said the same the other night.

In a way, that’s good to hear. I just hope they’re not setting the bar too hight.
160 toonLYF // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:50 PM

i know we won’t be playing this formation due to lack of cover down the wings, but jesus…team of absolute raw quality, better than Tottenham/Liverpools best starting 11 IMO.

——————-Krul——————-

-Santon—–Taylor—–Colo—–Jonas-

——————-Tiote——————-

———–Cabaye——-Anita————

——————Ben Arfa—————-

—————Cisse——Ba————–
161 Spuggy // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:51 PM

A FB (Debuchy) and CB (Douglas) would complete an incredible tranfer window.

We can wait for the striker but if we get one then great.
162 Valci // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:51 PM

Pawl – i can’t really agree with you on the formation thing. And im fully aware that we might play 4-4-2 as we did for the majority of last season…but it’s your reasoning that i don’t agree with. If all goes well we are looking at 25+ games or so if the Dembas split the games between them which is a fair amount. Also, it’s not unreasonable to have them rotate depending on which is more in form. Play the starter for say…60min and save 30min for the sub depending on how the game is going. You are also less likely to exhaust either of them this way. Anyways…like i said…we might well play 4-4-2 and the only reason i don’t think we will (at least not predominantly) is that Pardew said he wants a fluid passing game and 4-4-2 is just to rigid a system… although we might try the 4-1-2-1-2 (diamond) variation … we are all guessing at this point.
163 redondo77 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:52 PM

LGFUAD

Yup, many players started in different position until the coach told him he is better at different position and they actually became better players, like Santon he started as winger and Mourinho played him as LB and he got 7 caps for Italy because of that.
164 Spuggy // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:52 PM

Jail

Agreed – FB and CB is we need to really challenge top 6 again. All teams are stengthening and buying some exceptional attacking talent. Our defense needs to be on the money.
165 ToonDownSouth // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:52 PM

LGFUAD

Haha, I know mate, I’ve just read a lot of comments describing him as a ‘tough tackler’ and a ‘grafter’, which judging from the reviews of people who have actually watched him, isn’t true at all! (eg the Independent article you posted).
166 pawl250 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:52 PM

Big Pappa Cisse -

OK I am now convinced Anita will be the next best player ever as he came from the Dutch League!?! :s

What about Kezman? Alonso? …. AND the many other players that have amounted to ZERO when bought from the Dutch League.

I think Anita will be a good player but to judge him on the merit of players who have left the Dutch League previously is hardly proof!

Not to mention you have selected the good players only lol
167 BOOM BOOM THE 1ST // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:53 PM

dont think he will play against spuds. Any1 agree?
168 LGFUAD21 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:53 PM

cupiddstunt

Finally. We are in debt to you.
169 Jail for Ashley // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:54 PM

Spuggy,
Whats the news on Debuchy,people were saying last night he was out till January ?
170 mattyNUFC // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:54 PM

TDS

it’s so nice to hear ambition, it really is. even if the campaign proves that ambition to be unrealistic, at least we’re aiming for it. i know pards has a job in juggling expectation, but it’s not exactly encouraging when at the end of last season he was saying he hopes we get 8th
171 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:54 PM

I still think £24 million for Van Persie is allot for someone in the final year of their contract. Also he has only scored more than 20 goals (I think) in a season once (last season) plus he is injury prone and no spring chicken at 29. Massive gamble from a club £600 million in debt if you ask me like
172 ToonDownSouth // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:55 PM

JfA

I hope so – an injured player for a knock down price? Sounds like the kind of business Little Mike likes!
173 ichrisho // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:55 PM

Toodownsout – better to aim high… maybe in Jan we may need to re-evaluate.
174 bollance // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:55 PM

Playing for nufc > playing champions league

Another player has turned it down to join us. Carr is right. We are a big pull in Europe
175 toonLYF // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:56 PM

i think we should play a 4-3-2-1 with Anita Cabaye and Tiote in the middle, Arfa and Jonas/Marv out wide in advanced roles as i don’t see why we can’t rotate Ba and Cisse.

Playing both Ba and Cisse means dropping 1 of the 3 midfielders, IMO we need those 3 midfielders, we’re always going to have a goalscorer on the pitch with the quality of our strikers, it’s that midfield battle that wins games, we play those 3 in MF most games, we’re going to take control of the middle of the park against most teams in the EPL…this will win us matches.
176 bollance // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:57 PM

What happens when we do qualify for champions league. Messi pending becomes done deal
177 Rozzy // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:58 PM

This kid is right footed and his first position is CDM then RB. He only played LB because Ajax had no cover.
178 LGFUAD21 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:58 PM

ToonDownSouth

He is a tackler but nowhere near as tough as Tiote. Its liek the INdependent article said. he is afar more than a ball winner.

I’ve been saying all this stuff for weeks but nobody would listen. Except the few regulars i usually speak to directly. And this wasnt just me rehashing the article which only came out today. This is from watching him play about 5-6 games in full towards the end of last season (and also when I was checking out Vertonghen back in January).

BEst line from article, which I agree with completely is this

“The 23-year-old is not just a ball-winner but also a controlling playmaker who can help Newcastle build from the back and provide consistent supply to the likes of Cabaye, Jonas Gutiérrez and Hatem Ben Arfa. This should mean Newcastle can expect to have a more balanced and fluid midfield this season.”

Hence the “Dutch Pirlo”
179 toonLYF // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:59 PM

also, i think Anita will start on the bench on Saturday and get 30ish minutes depending on how the game is going, like has been said he’s had a full pre season and one competitive match, he’s ready. Merging him with a team of our quality, given his obvious qualities, shouldn’t be an issue.

football is a universal language and all that stuff
180 ichrisho // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:59 PM

Saturday vs. Spurs is going to be awesome!!! They have no strikers… bar Defoe and em well he scored a quality goal against Italy B side.. collo has him in his pocket… so its just up to Ba and Cisse to pop them in… I am going for 3-1… AIM HIGH… FLY HIGH…. MAGPIE…
181 ToonDownSouth // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:59 PM

matty

As it stands, Tottenham are no stronger than last year. Liverpool may be slightly stronger you could argue, but they’ve also lost a fair few players. Chelsea have thrown some money around, but they do that every season and it only works half the time.

I see no reason why the players shouldn’t be aiming for the top 4, because at the end of the day, we’ve got some absolutely fantastic players.

Having said that, I’d be happy with a top 7 finish and some evolution – in style of play, and the youngsters emerging.
182 pawl250 // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:59 PM

Valci – You missed my morning post!

I wouldnt worry about Cisse or Ba fitness in terms of rotation, Van Persie, Rooney, basically all strikers will play every game maybe miss out early cup ties (Ameobi/Campbell can play ours) as they don’t work as hard as the midfield.

You logic to keep both fresh is poor. I say this because as stated Van Perise played every game he was able for Arsenal last season and finished top scorer. As would have Henry in the past, Suarez would for Liverpool and Bent did for Mackems!

You dont take off your best scorers for fitness as for what they do they will be fine.

The fitness worries you will have are with your midfield! Cabaye Anita and Tiote cannot play every game! I would imagine rotating them would be a more sensible option as they attack and defend! Possibly your full backs and wingers (I.e. Jonas not Ben Arfa) will need rotating depending the amount of ground they cover.

Ba and Cisse wont need rested hardly ever! Midfield should be rotated you only need look at Jonas and Cabaye towards end of the season to see that!

You’re as is everyone else trying to find a logical excuse to not play both of them!? This is the only thing you all come up with!
183 cupiddstunt // Aug 16, 2012 at 1:59 PM

LGFUAD21 @# 168

Awww c’mon you been peeking at someone else’s mail???

It was clearly marked “just for you” for Redondo77.

But,,,

I suppose I should be more generous and let everyone read it so ok
184 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:00 PM

@ Pawl 250

That list was just off the top of my head. If you can name every player that has left the Dutch league good or bad then be my guest. I posted the list to show that Dutch football is technically very good. Still behind the PL in terms of quality thar
185 mattyNUFC // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:00 PM

anyone else think it’s a good idea to keep our formation the same (433/4231) and rotate los dos dembas according to goals? cisse goes without scoring one match, ba steps in. ba stays in the starting 11 until he goes a match without scoring and so on…
186 Jail for Ashley // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:01 PM

TDS,
Will they get any money for Simmo in January though,couldn’t bare to see RTaylor or even Perch as good as he was last season playing RB till January.
187 jayphoto // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:01 PM

think with the dutch league its important to actually watch the players and not go on stats! Players like alves, Kezman etc got many chances in holland playing for very attack minded teams! Fair enough they’d get 30 goals a season but they’re movement etc wasn’t amazing, and both players made very few runs or showed intelligent movement in the box that would be needed to step up to premier league level! A current player like this is John Guidetti who is nowhere near good enough for a top premier league team! It goes the other way too as Tiote was a substitute more than not at Twente and struggled with there total football style of play, often losing the ball! Its a very different style of play to england, even the poor teams play on the floor and you really need to look at attributes of a player!
188 Rotonda heights // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:01 PM

TDS

If you finish 5th, the top 4 has to be the aim. We were very close this time round before the Wigan debacle.
189 redondo77 // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:01 PM

Cupid & LGFUAD

thank you, i’m so sorry i’m not as expert as you.

I will stop posting any opinion since i’m regarded as pish poster by you experts.
190 mattyNUFC // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:02 PM

TDS

agree completely. if we finish top 8 and the style and entertainment is there, i still think we’d lost at least one or two of our stars to the big boys, but there’d be enough who’d want to stay on and give it another go
191 ToonDownSouth // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:02 PM

LGFUAD

I watched his last 2 appearances for Ajax, and he’s constantly dropping between the two CB’s to pick the ball up.

It’s strange – Pardew has said that he’s been trying to get the team to do that, but when we play, our centre backs split about 20 metres apart, then no one fills the gap, and so someone ends up lumping it. Hopefully Big Vern will help.
192 mattyNUFC // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:02 PM

we’d lose*
193 LGFUAD21 // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:02 PM

To people arguing over Ba. I think Pardew has mentioned about him playing behind Cisse.

This would work in a 4-2-3-1

And like someone said earlier, it is our hard working players that will need resting (Cabaye, Tiote, Anita) so this would work. Anita can fill in for either if they need resting and Ba can play in behind Cisse. If Anita is rested, Cabaye goes back to being a deep lying playmaker.
194 ichrisho // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:03 PM

Matty – i think Pards will keep same formation.. no cabaye so maybe 4-4-2.. with anita in… hes played a competitive match so why not? Also did anyone see FERGIE’s goal last night for NI… oooffftt… lets hope he sees some cup matches… HWTL
195 LGFUAD21 // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:04 PM

redondo77

Chill dude. i was joking. Dont be like that man. Just chill with the 50 posts demanding a link to the article.
196 pieceofpapiss // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:04 PM

Who was it yesterday who said they were excited to see a player with dreadlocks play for us again?? Must be a bit peeved he’s shaved em off!!
197 ToonDownSouth // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:06 PM

matty

At the end of the day, I think we’d lose maybe one or two regardless of where we finish. We have a couple approaching their peak years, and if they have a chance to move to a club like Manchester United or Milan, there’s no way I’d begrudge them that. I guess the idea is that you have enough of those players to get you where you eventually wish to be.

Udinese have spent the last 5 years selling their best players every summer, and it’s worked bloody well.
198 pawl250 // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:06 PM

LGFUAD21 – It wont keep the doom and gloomers happy, as Cabaye isnt in his advance playmaking role!

These same people forget that Ba and Cisse scored I think it was 26-27 goals last season!

I would take Ba and Cisse upfront/or Ba playing just off anyday over any other formation!

I rather win a game than play attractive football and lose/draw! I know thats not always the case but we would have in my opinion which I am entitled to a better chance of scoring with two out and out strikers!
199 LGFUAD21 // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:07 PM

ichrisho

Defoe on his day is unbelievable though.

It’ll be a weird game, we both have brilliant midfields, they have a good defense but no attack. We have a good attack but no defense.
200 peterrwrightt // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:08 PM

well looks like no more signings till after spurs now.
heres my team based on all players being fit.
……………………Krul……………………………
Santon…..Taylor…..Coloccini…….Gutierrez
……………………Tiote…………………………..
….Cabaye…………………………Anita……….
…………………..BenArfa……………………….
……..Ba…………………………Cisse………….
thoughts anyone?
201 APBWA // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:08 PM

Krul
Simpson-Saylor-Colo-Santon
Obertan-Tiote-Anita-Jonas
Cisse-Ba

OR

Tiote-Anita
Obertan-Marv-Jonas
Cisse
202 mattyNUFC // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:09 PM

LGFUADFWQ

to me, it’s not even worth it to have Cabaye playing deep….every time he played deep last year he was invisible, and not in a Modric-esque way

have to reiterate my joy at Anita signing…

for as high as we finished last year, 70% of the time we played crap football that was really hard to watch. I wonder if someone’s calculated our average possession percentage overall last year….i’m sure it lingers somewhere around 40%
203 bollance // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:09 PM

Could this signing signal the end for James perch?
204 peterrwrightt // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:10 PM

just as i posted that team, i heard that Cabaye and BenArfa are still doubtful. Cisse trained today though
205 Szarka // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:11 PM

Wouldnt play him vs Spurs yet, its too early, maybe after 2-0 lead
I would give him a run at the EL vs Amortosis. We need quality ther too, and hopefully it would be an easier task then starting vs Spurs or Chelsea.
206 pardew no 1 // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:12 PM

still dont have my season ticket do you ? please help
207 toonLYF // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:12 PM

i will be pretty gutted if Perch left

“we haven’t got perchinho, we haven’t got perchinho” would ring round the gallowgate whilst tissue’s were passed round for all the tears of despair
208 pawl250 // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:12 PM

Big Pappa Cisse -

Every top division in the world has had good and bad players!

You basically said he will be good because x, y and z came from the league!

I could have said Xisco is the best thing since sliced bread because

Fabregas, Silva, etc etc have all left that league. It works for every top league really as you will always have good players leave. It just doesnt mean anything as poor players leave too!

It was a silly comment really, sorry but it was.
209 Papiss9 // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:14 PM

pawl250

agree, but Anita is not a gamble, he will turn out to be good.
210 Magpies-till-d3ath // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:15 PM

So we’re playing a spurs team with two strikers in Defoe and dos santos, also Modric has flown to spain , Parker is out and Bale is not fit thanks to good old Charlie!
211 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:16 PM

AP press conf: “Anita will play mainly in midfield this season, he will be available for Saturday.”
212 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:16 PM

@ Pawl

I was trying to point out that the Dutch league should not be underrated and has very good technical ability. If you cant see that then you are the stupid one my friend
213 cupiddstunt // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:17 PM

redondo77 @ # 189

Now c’mon don’t spit the dummy out,

You kept insisting that he would be a fb when all the indications were he was coming into the mf.

A quick look on the NUFC site and lo’ and behold a statement from Vern saying he needed assurances he would get to play his preferred position dmf.

Just a little homework with your posts and you will be fine.
214 pawl250 // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:17 PM

Will be shocked if we line up anything other than 4-4-2 against Spurs!

Ben Arfa and Cabaye wont play, or its very unlikely.

Why would you play Ba out of position if you wont gain the main strengths of a formation. Especially when Ben Arfa and Cabaye happen to be the reason a formation change is in question.

As Benny is great going forward but abysmal in defence.

Then Cabaye doesnt have the more attacking role getting lose in defensive duties.
215 LGFUAD21 // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:19 PM

mattyNUFC

You make a good point. So many of our wins we had to grind out.

I’d say our “poor” defense won us more games than attacking prowess.

So many games we were on the back foot but our defense just wouldnt cave under the pressure. It frustrated a fair few teams.

pawl250

I know it wont. Yes Cabaye at Lille and for France showed that he can be dangerous in an advanced role but people shouldnt always interpret silent as ineffective. In a deeper role Cabaye often put pressure on players, chased down balls, his passing help keep possession and his long balls created. He was excellent against QPR until he had to come off.

Cabaye is a box to box midfielder. He will play a deeper role at times this season.

So many people just want to see players play one way and shoot.
216 Dannyo // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:19 PM

@LGFAUD21
I have to to differ the “no defense” comment.
We kept 2 more clean sheets compared to Tottenham last season, but they let in 10 less goals.
I’d say we’re pretty even defensivly imo. Especially with Saylor back again.
Both midfields strong aye, but they’re losing Modric now and will they have a replacement ready for us?
Bale think’s he’ll be back, but u never know…
We’re having a few doubtfuls ourselfes, so it’s a bit up in the air for me.
But pound for pound we’re looking pretty evenly matched.
217 Fostino // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:19 PM

in other news..alladyce third bid for jarvis knocked back for 9.5m…..have they any sense at all…thats crazy money. he’s good but no where near that good and they’ve just got promtoed. how can any chairmen trust big sam with their money
218 Papiss9 // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:20 PM

Remember last season, when Ba didn’t look up to speed at the start of the season, because of ramadan. I don’t know how their(The dembas) fitnesslevels are now, but maybe only start with one of them and use the other as a sub?

—————————–Krul——————————–
Simpson——-Saylor—————Colo————Santon
——————Tiote—————Anita——————–
HBA——————–Cabaye————————Jonas
—————————-Ba/Cisse—————————
219 check the toastie // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:20 PM

Perch can cover both full back positions and CB, did that well all last year, numerous man of the match performances, however in some peoples eyes he is still not seen as good enough.

Personally would play him RB until we sign somebody better, proved he was better than Simpson when he got his chance after the Wigan fiasco, at Chelsea when he was class.
220 pardew no 1 // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:22 PM

wheres my season ticket anyone having this problem ?
221 pawl250 // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:22 PM

Big Pappa Cisse – This is your original post!

Anyone who doubts Anita should have a look at all the players that have left Ajax in the past

Tiote, Van Persie, Kluivert, Seedorf, Dost, De jong, Suarez, Vertonghen, Van Nistelrooy, Huntelaar, Robben, Van Bommel, Farfan, Labyad, Park Ji-Sung, Ronaldo, Chivu, Babel, Davids, Ibramhimovic, Pienaar, Sneijder, Van Der Vaart, Stam, Hyypia, Dembele
_______________________________
At no point does it say you are saying the players in the above list from the Dutch league can match the PL?!

We aren’t psychic! and it didnt help that it said from Ajax aswell!

Sorry, but no! Just no! But i must be stupid clearly! :S
222 Jail for Ashley // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:24 PM

Check,
So would you be happy to get shot of Simmo, for say 2/3M now then play Perch or RTaylor RB till we get someone cheaper in January,because if they don’t bring someone in soon thats whats going to happen.
223 pawl250 // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:24 PM

Or rather the dutch league has good technical ability instead of match to PL.
224 Toon73 // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:24 PM

@pawl

Just calm down you come off as a complete knob in most of your posts.

Just sayin…
225 Fostino // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:26 PM

we cnt sell simmo until we have a replacement. he’s solid enuf to be fair. backing away from tricky wingers is not an uncommon practice…how many shots did he clear off the line too..he’s alright
226 LGFUAD21 // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:26 PM

Also I havent seen anything to suggest Cabaye will certainly be playing in a more advanced role. I think we’ve just all convinced ourselves of that.

But like I said yesterday, we wont have 1 starting XI it will change on an ad hoc basis.

We may want o play Cisse in Europa next week so Ba will play Chelsea, with Cisse on the bench and someone else either up front with Ba or sitting behind. Or 2 wingers either side of Ba. Then if the game needs it we can put Cisse on.

It really is a different season ahead. We have more options, we will use them. There is now more than 1 or 2 ways to get the best out of the team with the new options provided by Anita and Marveaux alone.

So people need to stop thinking like “This is our league team” “this is our europe team”. We are one team with more games.

Some weeks Ba and Cisse will play up front. Others only one may play, they may be subbed for each other. Ba may play on LW if needed. Ba may play in the hole if needed.

Cabaye will play deep next to Tiote if needed. Jonas will play LW, LB or CM if needed.

Key word being if, or rather when needed.

If we want to be a top team, we have to rotate and change the squad. You dont win of even contend with 1 dimension. Pardew will know this.
227 Toon73 // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:27 PM

If Simmo doesn’t sign now we have to sell him to make some coin.
228 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:28 PM

Cabaye still deemed ‘doubtful’ for the Spurs match, by AP at his pre-match press conference. So as it stands, my best guess judging by all the comments, particularly his statement that Anita is available for Saturday, with no caveat that he isn’t likely to play him, I see this being our line-up -

__________Krul__________
Simpson_Saylor_Colo_Santon
Oberatn_Tiote_Anita_Jonas
_______Cisse__Ba

The only change I could see is if he decides against slinging Anita straight in and goes with Marv/Gosling instead, with Jonas coming inside should he plump for Marv.
229 LGFUAD21 // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:29 PM

Fostino

Better to back off (or contain) than it is to commit and be beaten releasing them.

Said this all last season but nobody would have any of it.

Some people think football is about defenders tackling, strikers shooting, goalkeepers saving and midfielders holding it together.
230 Magpies-till-d3ath // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:31 PM

Scum sign Saha! For god sake will they ever learn? They’ve now signed him and Cuellar. Haha!
231 Jail for Ashley // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:32 PM

@LG21
”So people need to stop thinking like “This is our league team” “this is our europe team”. We are one team with more games. ”
Well said I think a lot of people think there will be two seperate teams,if that was the case teams like Athletico Bilbao would tear us a new hole.
232 pawl250 // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:33 PM

Toon73

I am calm, and funny as I think half the people here come off as complete knobs but I don’t complain!!?

Beattie is a prime example like, he has a right go at every ITK comments.

You only need look at the other day when half the blog ganged up on 1 person (Jimmy)! I would never do that, I think correcting people is ok but when its like multiple people I would be like hey guys it was a mistake take it easy this going abit too far!

If I were Big Pappa Cisse I would just be like – Yea I was trying to say this, but I basically havent a clue why I wrote this. Sorry. or Meh coming to think of it, it doesnt make much sense lol.

I will always apologies for being in the wrong, or if someone corrects me whether it be spelling or a stat. I’d be like yea sorry about that dont know why I said that or acknowledge my mistake.

Some people just post silly things and try defend them, or contradict themselves later on.

Still I am entitled to my opinion, as are you. Ill try tone the aggressiveness down, sorry to anyone I have offended.
233 LGFUAD21 // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:33 PM

And lets say this happens no RB in. Simmo has to play, but his heart isnt in it.
A good proportion of blame can rest on the shoulders of those who abused him via twitter, at matches or elsewhere.

I dont think him not agreeing to terms is the whole story on him. I dont think he wants to play for a bunch of ungrateful fans that abused him after Arsenal game for being injured for the first time that season.

Despite the fact we didnt blame and abuse Saylor for being injured at Chelsea causing us to concede soft goals at the end.

Colo got caught out just as many if not more times last season leading to goals. But we sing his praises.
234 gaz 44 // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:36 PM

slowly slowly catchee monkey dunno way that’s stuck in my head but deffo how this board work
235 Magpies-till-d3ath // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:36 PM

If Cabaye isn’t fit then I’d just play Marv on the left and jonas on the right, I hope Amalfitano gets a run out, just to see how he copes with the Epl
236 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:36 PM

@ Pawl

Give your head a shake man if you dont think the Dutch league has good technical players you must be insane
237 pawl250 // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:37 PM

Ruddy – Spot on mate, I agree.

I was thinking Jonas on the right to cover Bale, as he is good at tracking back. Obertan will probably just wave at him on his way past.

Marveaux can play left wing, although he would have to watch Walkers runs. Its a tough one, perhaps you right about Jonas on the left side.

Would need to think of a way to help Simpson, perhaps RTaylor on the right? or Amalfitano, although what I have seen of him he comes across as very slow, but atleast he will put a shift in.
238 ichrisho // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:37 PM

LGFUAD21

No defense? Huh? Collo and Krul would walk into most back lines in Prem… dont ya think?
239 GeordieGeorge // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:39 PM

Krul

Simpson ——– Sayler ——– Colo ——- Santon

Anita ——— Tiote

Cabaye ————– Ben Arfa

Cisse ———– Ba

Just an idea ???
240 LGFUAD21 // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:39 PM

Jail for Ashley

and to add to it. Ba will be just as happy if he plays the same number of games but 60% of them league and 40% of them Europa.

This means we can play 1 up front for some league games and leave 1 on the bench if they played 3 days before.

And if they dont like it all AP has to do is tell them they can leave to any other club in European competition and it will be the same case.

The only real question is which one do you play in which of the 2 games that week.

These players got us into Europe. They will want to play a part in Europe.

Our first europe game is next thursday. that leaves 7/8 days left of the window. I think they could be waiting to see how that leg goes first. Say we win it 3-0 then we can look to make more additions. But say we loose it 3-0. Then we’ll struggle to qualify. We wont want to keep a team happy without those extra games.

Unless of course they then decide to put more effort into winning the FA cup
241 GeordieGeorge // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:39 PM

Krul

Simpson ——– Sayler ——– Colo ——- Santon

Anita ——— Tiote

Cabaye ————– Ben Arfa

Cisse ———– Ba Just an idea ???
242 LGFUAD21 // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:41 PM

ichrisho

you know what i mean. Dont twist it. “Weaker defense relative to Spuds” thats what I hear anyway from people on here
243 ichrisho // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:41 PM

Team for Spurs..

Krul
Tavs Sayls Collo Santon
Tiote Anita
Guiterrez Vuckic
BA Cisse
244 ichrisho // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:42 PM

LGFUAD21 – only messing ar’kid.. I know what you mean… but do think that for once in a very long time …. we do have a much better team and squad than spurs… the post-redknapp era might be quite barren for them… plus when Bale signs for Barca in about 3 days we’ll see then…
245 Small World // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:43 PM

My fear is that we’re looking to pick up a fee by selling Tiote. The sum we’d receive would pay for his replacement (Anita), a backup (Bigi) and new fullback and a back up forward.

On one sense I’d hate to lose the guy, he truly is that warrior. However, being totally cold hearted he plays for half a season, taking into account suspensions / injury / ACON. I know how much the powers that be – take a very cold hearted, calculating look at affairs.
246 cupiddstunt // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:43 PM

For those saying and thinking we have a poor defence, remember they performed better than the bulk of the other prem defences so were not really that bad.

But don’t let that stop you from showing yourselves to be moaners
247 Fostino // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:43 PM

aggree LGFAUD21

a very good defenders will read the game and intercept or find the space that their marker wants the ball. a very good defender is not one who make make great lunging last ditch tackles all the time.

if the attacker is running at you, show him out wide or onto his weaker foot..this is what most defenders should do
248 pawl250 // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:43 PM

Big Pappa Cisse -

Are you making my comments up please post where I said they dont have good technical players?

You said Anita was good dont worry guys because he comes from a league with good technical players, or atleast thats what you tried to say.

I said that doesnt mean he will be good because the league also has some shit players basically, I never once said the whole league and players within it was crap?

By the way at no point have I ever said Anita was a bad player, I said he will be good but you cant judge him based on the league he comes from. (Just incase people tune in late on this debate/convo)
249 Londtoon // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:44 PM

No one considered a 4-2-1-3 or staggered 4-3-3 almost.

Gets ba cisse Tiote and Anita playing together
250 LGFUAD21 // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:44 PM

Spuds will likely play an aggressive 4-3-3

Bale will be a WF and i dont know who’s play on the right. Defoe in middle.

Maybe we can put santon RB to frustrate Bale like he did Ronaldo in CL
251 Les Grossman // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:46 PM

Pleased the lad has signed but still will not change my opinion that we have other priority positions!

My worry is the sale of cheik or yohan! Not saying it will happen but COULD! Hope not…

If they play big vern and the lion in the middle together could be the new viera/petit …..probably the best cm duo to play together in prem!
252 Kyo // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:46 PM

Pards says Anita is ready for Spuds game.
253 LGFUAD21 // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:47 PM

Fostino

We share the same philosophy
254 JDdubai // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:47 PM

Can see it being 4-4-2 on saturday, main reason for the change of formation was Cabaye and HBA. If they arent there then the safer option is maybe 4-4-2.

Only possible problem is is VDV drops deep then they could outnumber the midfield, but none of us know so roll on Saturday.

@pawl some of ur arguments are right like Iv said before, just think the way they come across is what rubs people up the wrong way. Like ur definitely right and everyone who suggestes 4-2-3-1 or Ba playing out wide is definitely wrong. No-one is right or wrong, none of us know yet how we will play.
255 ben10arfa // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:49 PM

Skysportsnews doing a fan poll today for top scorer this season, cisse down the bottom of the list at letter ‘G’. Text ‘VOTE’ followed a space then ‘G’ to 84408 to support papiss cisse. Texts cost 25p. Let’s take this fan poll over!!
256 Beattie25 // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:50 PM

Les Grossman

You know what.. I cn’t even be bothered.
257 ichrisho // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:50 PM

Suposedly Cabaye and Tiote were asked for reports on the new boys adn who they think would fit into the squad… think that shows class from Pardew and the team…
258 Beattie25 // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:51 PM

Guys the Mackems have signed Saha.

Holy flying cow shit that is Saha and Cuellar. They are going places.
259 JDdubai // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Bring of Lawro’s predictions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Liverpool champions league, us mid table, Suarez top scorer, Joe allen player of the year, Pardew sacked by October, Mike Ashley sells all top players, Newcastle lucky last season etc etc etc
260 ichrisho // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Is HBA not out of this game? Confirmed…
261 ben10arfa // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Results will be shown at 10pm today, let’s show some geordie love for our number 9
262 Jail for Ashley // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Why is there talk now of Tiote going,there was talk last window and there was no substance to it at all,if a bid come in for I guess around 30 M then there’s nothing we can do about it,but whose going to pay that kind of money for him.
263 Londtoon // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Douglas to sign? Thoughts
264 Jail for Ashley // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Has Saha got a good resale value to one of those rich Chinese clubs or didn’t any want him.
265 cupiddstunt // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Small World @ # 245

A post not without thought and merit.

But you have to add into the cold heartedness calculations what the players bring to the club and the squad when not on the park.

And that is what most on here miss out completely.

We are now a club that looks at the complete package, personality, character, temperament as well as talent.

Just look at the number of names that have been posted here for who we should have signed while little or nothing is known about how they deal with play going against them, names of players that have undoubted talent but not a fighting bone in their body.

HBA was like this but is starting appreciate just what is needed to be a team player, and before the HBA lovers get their knickers in a twist this is something HBA admitted himself in interview.
266 JDdubai // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:55 PM

JFA

Just appears to be the usual response to us buying as player…must mean we are selling another etc

Thoguh i cant deny Man U need a player like him and Chelsea do too as Mikel is shoite. But nothing actually mentioned anywhere other than this blog.
267 nightfa11 // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:56 PM

good signing…

now all we need is mbiwa & remy type & we can beat just about anyone:)
268 rainrix // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:56 PM

Wow some people on here are worse than the gutter press. Tiote hasn’t been linked with any team all window and now we have anita he’s suddenly going? Really?
269 deeeeeeano // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:58 PM

JFA- what happened ower there?? Heard a rumour
270 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:59 PM

@ Pawl

Your boring me now m8. You did not say it directly but I said the dutch league is full of technical players and gave you a list off the top of my head with a few examples. If you dont think that is a that is a valid opinion then it is up to you but I dont see anyone else complaining. Also Anita has been at the Ajax academy for most of his life and they are world renound for their technical ability. Or is that still not suitable enough for you
271 JDdubai // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Awww well done the Mackems

Finally clinched the 1 year deal for Saha, Champions League for you now chaps

Give him til October before he’s injured.
272 AshtreeKid // Aug 16, 2012 at 2:59 PM

love the old newcastle buy a player so they can sell a better player reaction in the papers! Just read a worrying headline PARDEW EXPECTS ANOTHER SIGNING BEFORE THE WINDOW SHUTS… I hope he expects more than one other signing????
273 Rowan Milsted // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Welcome to Newcastle Anita, good to have you on board. I’m sure he’ll turn out to be yet another quality signing. Great character, hard working, versatile and a good price too. Love it.
274 ben10arfa // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:01 PM

Skysportsnews doing a fan poll today for top scorer this season, cisse down the bottom of the list at letter ‘G’. Text ‘VOTE’ followed a space then ‘G’ to 84408 to support papiss cisse. Texts cost 25p. Let’s take this fan poll over!!
275 Transfer Sage // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:02 PM

Don’t normally agree with Pawl but do here.

The dutch league has good players and so do Ajax but that doesn’t guarantee Anita is or will be a success in the prem league.

I think he will be from the little I have seen and the fact he was even recommended by carr suggests he will be good.

But for every van persie there is an afonso Alves
276 cupiddstunt // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:03 PM

ben10arfa @ # 274

You on commission or something???????

What a waste of money
277 pieceofpapiss // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:03 PM

In regards to the Silly Makems

Cuellar, 31, couldnt get into Villa’s team last season due to injury and form
Saha, 34, 7.5 goals a season over the last 4 seasons
Steven Fletcher, 0.23 goals per game in his career.

Im nervous now……….
278 JTOONJ // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:04 PM

I can see this lifting team morale, hopefully another signing who can play CB would be terrific HWTL

P.S can’t wait til sat. spuds could be weak as walker and defoe could be fatigued
279 rainrix // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:04 PM

Ashtree… Wouldn’t worry about that one mate pards was eternally saying just one more player this time last year and we still got 3 players in. One thing I’ve learned about pardew don’t pay any attention to what he says regarding transfers.
280 pawl250 // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:05 PM

Big Pappa Cisse -

Ok…. just ok!

Clearly cant get through to you what you have said and the way you tried to say it.

I never have said the league never had techincal players, show me all I said is like EVERY league they have shite players too! Thats why you cant base Anita based on that comment (your comment) alone.

Also I know Ajax have a great youth system but I guarantee you again that not every youth player is amazing, they would have been some shite players come through. The reason you wont be able to name them is because they are shite!

Nevermind though, have a good day, and take care of yourself! =)
281 eaststandgeordie1982 // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:05 PM

If cabaye is not fit i would go with
Krul
Simmo saylor colo santon
Tiote anita
Jonas
Hba cisse marv
282 cupiddstunt // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:05 PM

Not a bad idea from the likes of Skysportsnews ehh.

Run a phone in vote and get some shills out to the fan sites to wind them up into voting @ 25p a pop

Easy money wot????
283 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:06 PM

So what, no ned FB, CB or ST yet? FFS this club!
284 Transfer Sage // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:06 PM

@les

The way the club seems to work means is signing Anita is irrelevant to the sale of cabaye or tiote.

We do not make sure we have a replacement in. We sell if a goodnoffer comes in the buy when we are ready.

Carroll was sold in the middle of our first season back in the league with no replacement before hand. That shows our deals don’t match up.

It’s not 1 in 1 out, we buy if the right man is available at the right price and sell if we get an offer too good to turn down.
285 Jail for Ashley // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:08 PM

Deeenoo,
See you on FB,if ya logged on.
286 pawl250 // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:09 PM

Transfer Sage -

Thank you! Atleast you can see what I was trying to say to him. Nevermind, but thanks for the little vote of confidence!

At last we have a comment we can both agree on! lol!
287 wingspan // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:10 PM

For those of you who think he was signed as a FB. Have a read and hold your hands up

http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20120816/boss-vurnons-top-class_2281670_2887006
288 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:10 PM

@ben10arfa – do you work for skysports or something? Trying to get people to spend money on a little poll for them. You on commission?
289 Fostino // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:10 PM

with cabaye possibly out this sat….would anyone be surprised to see gosling given the nod
290 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:11 PM

JFA
Didnt you know we operate a strict 1 in 1 out policy?
So obviously signing anita means were selling tiote because they play the same position, just like when we get out new cb it obviously means colo’s going and if we get a CF cisse is long gone!!!
Cant win with some ppl on here spend all summer crying for a new arrival and when we get one they think it means were cashing in on some1!!
291 ichrisho // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:12 PM

@281 – good team mate… although do think that Gosling will be for Guti… he needs a few starts.. he’s a wonderful player – way better and more highly rated at everton than rodwell was… he justs need a run…
292 Transfer Sage // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:13 PM

Pawl

No worries.

I’m still insure what formation we will go for.

Pardew said a lot of things and surely he can’t get them all into the team every game.

He said demba woul play through the middle.

Santon would play right hand side.

He wants to control the midfield more (hinting at 3 in the middle)

It’s difficult to judge what our line up will be.
293 pawl250 // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:14 PM

Regards to Mackems I strongly believe they are in trouble.

I am not biased, just realistic. They have 2 players worthy of a mention. Mclean and Sessegnon.

I rate O’Neil as a manager, I do. BUT you can clearly see what he is trying to do. That is survive until he sells/buys until he has who he wants to have in his team.

Based on current market he is trying to cover players leaving with experienced free/cheap players until he can buy a replacement he wants.

I cant see the Sunderland fans being patient and waiting for the transformation and think in the long run they will be in bottom half of the league, possibly in danger of relegation!

They need some new faces, and fast! And not the likes of Saha but the likes of Fletcher and Nzonzi those kind of players who have been linked with them.

I tend to know alot about Sunderlands transfer business as I work in an office full of Mackems and I am the only Mag! Should have been here after our 5-1 win, it was awful, nearly got sacked for breathing! lol
294 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:15 PM

Ibiza
Its a disgrace its been like 4 hours since our last signing ffs they need to pull there finger out!
295 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:16 PM

pawl…If there’s one thing I’m sure of, you wont get any disagreement about the mackems on here…unless you’re tipping them to do well
296 pawl250 // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:17 PM

I think Gosling will be our little gem this season like. He looked a very promising player at Everton before his injury. I feel if he stays fit he will have a place in midfield rotation.

His ability to get goals from midfield is probably the best we have in our team at this moment in time, perhaps only behind Ben Arfa!

He adds a quality in depth that Guthrie in my opinion didnt do! Arguably not as good at defending as Guthrie, but still as I stated much better attacking.

It would be like comparing Tiote to Cabaye in fairness!
297 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:19 PM

Tads…I’m glad you’re with me on this. Too many posters blinded by a new signing and fail to see without further signings today we will face a relegation battle. I mean lets’s say we lose the first two games, that’ll be 6 points off the pace. We can never expect to get that back.

Come on Ashley, please do us a favour, sell the club and go and ruin Rangers!
298 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:20 PM

Pawl…Re Gosling…Cor, we’re on a roll mate. I also think he’ll come good with a run of games this season.

Wanna start a clique?
299 Les Grossman // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:23 PM

Beattie
Whats your problem now?
People on here only allowed your opinion! I never even comment on your posts lad, because your always whingeing your tits off at someone, because their opinions don’t match yours!

And you know what? If you ‘can’t be bothered?’ do one!
300 cupiddstunt // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:24 PM

Biz you know if you took your tongue out of your cheek and your posts weren’t dripping with so much sarcasm you would make a pretty good neggar.

I just think there are times that it just goes straight over their heads
301 Fostino // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:25 PM

ibizatoon

relegation battle after two games…..did you take your pills this morning

we have a very good team, agreed a def is needed but the squad is stronger then last yrs and we finished 5th, so to say were heading for a relegation battle without more signings is ridiculous
302 cupiddstunt // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:26 PM

Hahahaha I rest my case
303 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:26 PM

Fostino – you’ve just been done.
304 pawl250 // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:26 PM

Ibiza – I consider myself an honest guy, I wont hide away the fact when Sunderland have a better team than we do by saying our team is better.

I am Newcastle through and through but some people are delusional, especially with the rivalry! If you talk to most Sunderland fans they wont give one of ours players a compliment.

Ive just given 2 of theirs one, in saying Sess and Mclean are decent, simply because they are.

It does annoy me though when people blindly try to say the team is better than that team or that team like they are now when clearly they arent. Then they have the cheek to say the under perform because they set their own expectations too high.

Some of our fans actually do that. Ive seen on here top 4 finishes, I just cant see it myself. I rather go for realistic target and anything higher is bonus, like last season.
305 rainrix // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Fostino… Are you familiar with the concept of a joke?
306 check the toastie // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Jail – sorry for the delay but yep, sell Simmo now, sometimes i actually do have to do work whilst their, sly…..
307 Beattie25 // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:28 PM

What is it with Pardew and his desire to play mind games.

I mean I’m all for them against opposition managers but why does he have to play them against me?

First he says he wants 2-3 signings now he saying he hopes we can get 1 more.

Please stop playing with my emotions and sign a few more players.

Anyway Krul has tweeted this:

Over the moon with the signing of my friend Vurnon Anita he’s going to be a top player for us. Hopefully couple more signings to come #nufc

I dont care if anyone already posted it.
308 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:29 PM

Cupid….Can’t believe it! I am oh so tempted to keep this going…I wanna take Ruddy on. Go head to head, see what all the fuss is about. Shall I give it a go? You’re cupid, i’ll take your advice.
309 Les Grossman // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:32 PM

Transfer sage
PLEASE go back and read my post again, and don’t turn into one of the ignoramus in here who knows as much as me about nufc transfer policy but pretends they know better!

ALL I said was, I hope we wouldn’t lose cheik or yohan! I didn’t once say I think we would! Au contrare….I said I hope NOT!!

Then went on to say viera / petit …oh WtF

Let’s hope the lad and the team have a good season! This BLOG is a nightmare!!
310 eastend toon // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:32 PM

————krul————–
simp—tayls—colo—santon
—–tiote—— anita——-
———-cabaye————
arfa—————–marv
———-cisse/ba———–

our best starting 11

defensively solid, great attacking potency

any team will be wary of playing against that line up
311 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:32 PM

Pawl….I tend to agree with that to. I will add however, I think on here you generalise posters views and group us all together. I think this is what attracts people to battle with you as they do.

Anyway, nice to see we can chat and share some opinions along the way.

Now back to war against the board…..muhahahaha
312 JDdubai // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:32 PM

Finally worked out a formation that keeps everyone happy

Krul

Colo
Tiote Anita
HBA Cabaye Jonas
Obertan Ba Cisse Marveaux

The old revers Xmas tree 1-2-3-4.

Ba in the middle
Cabaye as advanced CM
No hassle of which side Santon will play as only 1 defender
Obertan gets a place to prove his godliness
Just couldnt fit Shola in
313 JDdubai // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Beattie, hope ur not dropping Krul’s tweet to pretend ur ITK with the players??
314 tooninspain // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:35 PM

Would all the mackem brains advocating Jonas for left-back please go back to their padded cells…..pronto. Dawn French would be better there.
315 cupiddstunt // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:35 PM

Fostino @ # 301

If you are of none British origin I can understand that getting to grips with our humour can be a little difficult.

Even some of us get a little confused at times, but you really have to follow the posts from various posters and you will see some are pessimistic in their life outlook and it comes through in almost every post they make.

Biz is not one of those.

But if you are of British origin you have been had you saddo and need to lighten up a bit. ;lol:
316 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:36 PM

I shall not start something I cannot finish. Internet down in office, so at an internet cafe (no, not just to get back on here, although it was atrocious timing – Anita signing conf, internet dies – lovely).

Fostino….It was purely a joke, as others have pointed out. I’m one freaking ray of positive sunshine brother…

I’ll leave you all with a song

“I feel a cold flush going through my hair and hey you know what I don’t even care The time has passed me by Its gone with the wind Its all because the sun shined once again Now the party’s on Everybody’s there And if you don’t know anyone You’ll still meet some new friends That’s the way it is When i have myself a drink All because the sun shines once again
Let the sunshine Let the sunshine baby Let it all go Let it all go baby Let the sunshine Let the sunshine baby Let it all go Let it all go baby”

Copy and pasted people, copy and pasted

Peace
317 ichrisho // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:37 PM

I have a generalised view and i will share it on the blog. “…..think that we need to give Gosling a few starts. A good run of games will do his confidence the world of good. Head down and keep at it. Just keep working hard at training and then who knows he may get the nod.. “
318 pawl250 // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:37 PM

Eastend Toon -

If I was playing against that team I would send my 2 best attacking midfielders down one of the wings!

Marv and Ben wont cover the runs. Would be tough to feel confident that Simpson and Santon (who has potential but isnt quite ready defensively just yet) could defend to the standard needed.

If you pull Anita/Tiote away from centre it would allow alot of time on the ball through the middle.

I would also think we need to play quite deep as our back four doesnt have the pace.

I just think defence wise its solid through middle, weak along sides due to lack of quality fullbacks.

As for attacking potential I have no arguments, but everyone already knows my major issue with this formation.

Cant split Demba duo up with the potential goal tally they can get!

Sorry Ibiza it had to end at some point!!!
319 Fostino // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:38 PM

oh rite, was only browsing through the comments and picked it up the wrong. opps
320 cupiddstunt // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Ibizatoon @ # 308

Biz I can only say no to testing such a friendship, he is currently basking in the self proclaimed glow of victory and it would not be good to diminish that just now.

Although I can’t believe in the timing of the last few posts.
321 Nufc-83 // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Well the plonker of the day award goes to Redondo for me.
322 Beattie25 // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:42 PM

I am Tim Krul
323 Phillipe Alberts tash // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Right Collo top purchased, ready to go for Saturday!
324 JAMSHA // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Whose nxt to sign?
325 check the toastie // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:50 PM

Paul Scharner
326 ToonDownSouth // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:51 PM

I hope you haven’t spelt it Collo….
327 Fostino // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:51 PM

anyone think spurs have had a bad summer are not looking too good for sat

their captain retires, arry is shown the door, their star playmaker finally gets his move and parker looks to be out for a bit. they,ve lost their main striker in adeboyor and they’ve hired an uncovincing manager who made a right mess of his last job.
328 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:54 PM

Saving Private Scharner.
329 cupiddstunt // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:54 PM

Nufc-83 @ # 321

A bit harsh don’t you think???????????

I do believe that Rodondo77 is not a native of these lands so is working in a second language, for that they need dispensation and latitude for their comments.

I have yet to ascertain fostino’s origins so they may well qualify for the title even though their claim is they just fell upon the post and responded, to respond blindly is not very clever as they have found to their cost.
330 Tsunki // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:54 PM

I think we should aim for the bottom 5. Beating the mackems for missing relegation is now a priority. Plus I am worried we will sell Shearer. An bites?
331 check the toastie // Aug 16, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Dont think we should all get ahead of ourselves here, Spurs are a good side with loads of Pace, Lennon, VDV, Defoe and Bale, will give us plenty to think about. They have 2 full backs who are pretty gud going forward and the rest of ther team is decent. It is a tough game, and for me 50/50.

If we get a draw and move on, get Benny and Cabs fit and some defenders through the door, then the season is looking fantastic, would love to come through the first 2 PL games undefeated, and build from there.
332 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:00 PM

Contrary to the fake Ruddy posting this is actually my first post since we have announced the signing and this is going to be my one and only thought about it as I have other things to do today, shocker

Great news that we have finally got a first teamer through the door, can’t say I have too much knowledge about the guy but I have heard great things about him from those who know a lot about him so I am quietly confident he could be a real hit for us

A young striker OR an experienced CB is all we need, some disagree but I am more confident that we can get the result we need on Saturday with the squad we have.

3 points on Saturday please and all will be well! Howay the Lads!!
333 cupiddstunt // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:00 PM

Fostino @ # 327

AVB’s post was made untenable by the chelski mafia that he was there to manage.

When you take on a team where some of the players are older than you and they are buddy buddy with the owner then you are on to a hiding to nothing.

I think you will find that AVB is a manager in the mould of Sir Bobby, he mentored Mourinio who mentored AVB so just watch.
334 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:01 PM

I’ve been getting increasingly concerned that we might sell Robbie Elliott
335 Phillipe Alberts tash // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:03 PM

I shat myself then toon down south, just a typo thank feck!
336 Fostino // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:04 PM

i made a blunder…il hold my hands up to that and take the slack.

i dont read too the posts too often unless i see a good link so im not aware of the humour of some of our postors but what i have seen is some ridiculous comments by various people at certain times, especially by those who detest ashley so when i quickly brushed over the comments i taught ibizas wan another one.
337 Nufc-83 // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:06 PM

Cupiddstunt I was thinking the same but then had another look through his comments and he seems to know exactly what he is saying so I say plonker tbh lol.

Desperate for RB,CB and St although would be very happy with two of the above. Im just praying stayls stays fit as although I have been a big critic of his in past seasons his form at the beginning of last season was nothing short of top class.
338 mattnufc // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:06 PM

Pardew said another signing would be the icing on the cake. Looks like we’ll be lucky to sign just one more player.
339 Phillipe Alberts tash // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:06 PM

I shat myself then toon down south, just a typo phew!
340 check the toastie // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:07 PM

We have young Sammy as a young support striker, dont think we need a one, hopefully Senegal dont make the ACON anyways, Crucial we sign a RB or CB for me, if Collo or Saylor are injured our defence is severely weakened, although Perchy came in well for Collo at times last year.

1st Priority was getting Debuchy however not sure how his injury is? Should try and pinch Kelly from the bindippers, you never know he might not fit into Rodgers total football.
341 Phillipe Alberts tash // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Had me worried then toon down south, just a typo thank deck!
342 Phillipe Alberts tash // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:09 PM

Had me worried then toon down south, colo phew!
343 bucktoon // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:10 PM

This is a fantastic signing for the club. If I could choose one more and one more only, i’d take a Right Back and that would do for me in a worst case scenario. Hopefully Debuchy! Then id line up 4-2-3-1 with Krul, Debuchy, Colo, Tayls, Santon, Anita and Tiote holding. 3 in Front would be Ben Araf, Cabs and Ba, with Cisse up top. Then you’ve got a bench of Elliot, Raylor, Williamson, Gosling, Marveaux, Sam Ameobi and Shola. Backing that up you have Tav, Perch, Vuckic, Abeid, Campbell. Not a bas little squad, only concern is we lack a little proven quality in depth.
344 Transfer Sage // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:14 PM

Agree with fostino on AVB

He was good at Porto but at Chelsea he was a poor man manager. People would accept dropping the old guard if better was there, but bit wasnt so it was a silly move.

Also from what I saw he never adapted his style to match the different players at Chelsea.

I imagine he will learn from this although he did seem very stubborn.
345 cupiddstunt // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:15 PM

Fostino @ # 335

You’re action is understandable and the outcome was all planned for, go back and read posts 297, 300,301 and 302 and then 303.

Then think to yourself do you really want to jump into something you only THINK you know is going on or should you read a little more.

When out fishing you put out your bait wait and lo’ and behold sometimes you catch a fish, it comes along oblivious to what has gone on before and grabs the bait (remind you of anyone?)

Out of curiosity what is your origin if I may ask, I am really only interested in your first language.
346 Nufc-83 // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:16 PM

Bucktoon i would say that is exactly how I would go but tbh i wasn’t convinced with BA on the left last season and so I think I would start Marveaux there but thats a tough call tbh.
347 ichrisho // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:16 PM

Anyone take Gazza back?
348 ichrisho // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:17 PM

“Injury” for debuchy means “plane journey to Toon”
349 cupiddstunt // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:19 PM

ichrisho @ # 347

You an X file fan by chance?????
350 Transfer Sage // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Les

I never accused you of saying anything.

I was just stating how the club do business going off recent experience in the transfer market.

The sale of players doesn’t seem to be directly linked to who we buy. People are sold if a good offer comes in if we have a replacement of not ready.
351 ENGLISH PLAYERS 4 TOON // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:25 PM

Anyone else think this signing could stunt Bigi’s development into the first team?
CB and a Left Back for me now
352 bucktoon // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:26 PM

NUFC 83 – agree with you completely and from what i’ve seen of Marv in pre season he should start. I just dont think Pards will bench BA.
353 toonLYF // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:26 PM

haven’t beent his excited for a season to start in absolute years!
354 toonLYF // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:28 PM

ENGLISH PLAYERS FOR TOON – why specifically english players? they’re shite and have bad attitudes 80% of the time.
355 ToonDownSouth // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:31 PM

That name isn’t going to get many serious responses on this blog I’m afraid.
356 OneAlanShearer // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:33 PM

————krul————–
simp—tayls—colo—santon
—–tiote—— anita——-
———-cabaye————
Marv—————–Jonas
———-cisse/ba———–
That wil likely be our line up I reckon
357 Fostino // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:33 PM

marv is a very clever player who holds the ball well and dosnt lose it much (i maybe pointing out the obvious here). he is certainly a better wing option then ba but as we saw a good bit last season, ba and cisse alternated the cf role a few times during a game and would like to see them both kept happy and both starting. both are capable of scoring at any possible second too which is great. i actual taught we might see marv play in cm role with tiote and cabaye and jonas revert to lb with ba, cisse and ben afra up front…however lo and behold, anita arrives so im not sure where we will see marv play if he is to be in the first team
358 toonLYF // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:33 PM

and no it won’t stun Bigi’s growth, he’s 18 years old, he has atleast 1-2 year left outside the full first team picture, he will still develop playing for the reserves/getting the odd cup cameo
359 ToonDownSouth // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:34 PM

We really do get tough opening games. The last 5 seasons -

Tottenham (4th), Arsenal (4th), Manchester United (2nd), West Brom (promotion rivals, just relegated), Manchester United (1st)

Ouch.
360 Fostino // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:36 PM

toonLFY

english players are GENERALLY overpaid too, enjoy the party scence too much, the press jump on their backs and tehnically not the best.
361 Nufc-83 // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:38 PM

I think out of all the youngsters amafiliano will be the most impressive he has such a good technique and touch even when he played out wide in the game at Monaco he didn’t have a v good game but his touch and technique was there for all to see.
362 BelfastMagpie87 // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:38 PM

To be fair to Avb the spoilt brats at Chelsea have seen off a few managers.
363 ichrisho // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:39 PM

Cupid – i was… big conspiracy theorist here… I do believe that he will be signed after the spurs match… Any takers on a small online bet? I wager £1.00 that Debuchy will be on toon for 2nd game of season.
364 ToonDownSouth // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:39 PM

Yet more evidence that Anita will play CM, from Pardew in his press conference.

When asked if Anita gives more options wil his versatility, Pardew said -

“We lost Danny Guthrie on a free transfer, and at this level you need 3 top class central midfield players, which we now have. So that’s where he’ll primarily play.”
365 ENGLISH PLAYERS 4 TOON // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:40 PM

ToonLYF we play football in an English league i Think at Least 4-5 of our starting 11 should be English as is with pretty much every other league outside the EPL simple not all englishmen are shit majority are fucking worldclass just shite at international level cause of team rivalries and different styles of play, with bigi he may feel a wee bit upset no, he may have thought he could break that postion this year and now has someone above him for the next 5 years unless he is sold
366 ichrisho // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:41 PM

@ 355 – Cabaye is confirmed NOT playing… so he’s out… Pardew desperately needed Anita in as without Cabaye we just have Gosling… Although I do think that Abied should get a run this year….
367 Fostino // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:42 PM

english players for toon

bigi actual resembeles a younger version of anita…if thats possible. i suppose in reality in the short term, it will affect his developemnt into first team but in the long term, you would hope the competition will make if a better player and if your good enough, then you’ll find yourself starting.

we could also argue any incoming striker will affect adam campbell development or debuchy affect tav development…i think these players need the competition to become better players..if there not up to it, then they will be found out
368 ENGLISH PLAYERS 4 TOON // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:44 PM

ToonLYF Many english players are worldclass just do not perform well at international level, we should have at least a couple in our starting 11 no? we play in an ENGLISH league. on bigi i just feel he may be a bit upset as he may of felt he could have tied that role down this season and now is futher down the pecking order for potentially another 5 years? just a thought
369 ToonDownSouth // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:45 PM

Pardew also said Hatem is “a doubt, as to whether I’ll start him or even include him”.

It wouldn’t surprise me one bit to see Hatem start on Saturday.
370 ToonDownSouth // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:47 PM

english players 4 toon

Which English players do you think should be in our starting 11 then? Simpson and Saylor already are.

Which English players would you have us sign?
371 cupiddstunt // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:48 PM

Ichrisho @# 362

Not really a gambler and I’m inclined to think debuchy could very well be here by close of window.

I just find it amazing how somefolk can be looking at one thing but really be seeing another.

Me I look at Debuchy injured and see Debuchy injured simple as.

I suppose I would never make a James Bond type eh.
372 Papiss9 // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:48 PM

“Many english players are worldclass just do not perform well at international leve”

Do not agree with that. English players in general are not among the best in the world. Foreigners make PL as good as it is.
373 IFC.Toon // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:48 PM

Whatever people say about formations I am out for a front line that can interchange, float between lines and holes and wreak havoc. Signing Anita is a giant step in that direction providing a solid foundation for the likes of Cabaye,HBA and Marveaux. From day one Pardew has talked about a team than can set up in many ways and that can adopt to different styles and systems to suit so don’t waste your time arguing about the nitty gritty because IMO Pardew is up there with greatest tactician and in the Cisse/Ba debate last season they never worked well as a pair up top on their own. So it might have to be one or the other.
374 Papiss9 // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:50 PM

What they show on the international stage is how good they are. It’s not like they are world class in the league and average in the internationals
375 Fostino // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:50 PM

belfat magpie

avb went in there trying to stamp his authority too quick bytrying to get rid of all the verterans out of the team…he instantly lost the players then, they had feck all respect for him…i can guarentee these players were in contact with spurs players at the time, telling them how big an ejet avb is so i think he has a very tough job to command the respect from the spurs dressing room. i mean already, he couldnt get their best player to train with them (modric). he’s proven to be a failure in the englihg game.

i remeber seeing avb countless times crouched on the sideline barking orders at no one (coz no one would listen to him) behaving like a nervous teenager at a scary movie on the sideline. he had no composure. he talks like a fool in my book too…his interviews are rubbish too.
376 pardews plan B // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:50 PM

I can’t name a single world class English player. Rooney looks it on form but still isn’t consistent enough. He only plays well in patches.
377 ichrisho // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:51 PM

Cupid – The world of footbal is full of smoke and mirrors.. especially when someone is wanted by a new club… I am just sadly hoping with no hope that he will be signed… we need him as seeing Simmo out there makes me feel just no hope… he’s alright but we need better.. Tavs has about 2 years to go i’d say…
378 ToonDownSouth // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:52 PM

In our first team squad, we have Harper, Elliott, Staylor, Raylor,Perchinho, Simpson, Tavernier, Williamson, Gosling and Sameobi.

That’s more than most clubs…
379 pardews plan B // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:54 PM

@papiss9 the English players rarely show enough pride internationally
380 ENGLISH PLAYERS 4 TOON // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:55 PM

You lot are delusional, ashley cole has been the best left back in the world for many years.

Hart = World Class
Terry = World Class
Wilshire = World Class
Rooney = World Class
381 arroeben // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:55 PM

Hi, just a question, the number 7 is still vacant right?
382 Fostino // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:55 PM

IFC Toon

i aggree, with pardrew its almost like, pay peanuts and u get monkeys..(charlton)

but when we have a good scot network and prepard to spend money on good players and we see pardrew to be a great manager. to be fair he did a good job at west ham too. i was against his appointment..but he has totally transformed my opinion and proven himself…he says all the right hings too
383 IFC.Toon // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:55 PM

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2012/08/16/alan-pardew-hoping-for-another-newcastle-signing-72703-31638023/?

In this article it confirms that no one is definitely out and HBA and Cabaye are doubtful

Mind games
384 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:56 PM

English players 4 toon

Well we should sign them all then. How much do you think those lot would cost btw ?
385 ToonDownSouth // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:56 PM

ENGLISH PLAYERS 4 TOON

You didn’t answer my question – go on. Unless that was your answer? You’d like us to sign Wilshere, Cole, Rooney, Terry and Hart?
386 ENGLISH PLAYERS 4 TOON // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:57 PM

TDS none of em start games most rarely play, arsenal have more englishmen in there starting 11 than us = farcicle
387 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:58 PM

Pardew is the king of mind games like I wouldn’t be suprised if our whole squad is fit and raring to go
388 Fostino // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:58 PM

big pappa cisse

in fairness, english players are a loyal bunch…just look at carroll and rooney just a joke
389 Papiss9 // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:59 PM

There are a few world class english players, but other nations have a lot more plyers in that category, simple as that. Brazil, Argentina, Spain, Italy, Germany and France.
390 ToonDownSouth // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:00 PM

Wiliamson, Taylor and Simpson don’t start most games?

Erm….
391 pardews plan B // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:01 PM

ashley Cole is not his former self
terry = slow and past it
Wilshere =lots to prove still
rooney = lacks consistency
hart = good but leagues behind casillas and buffon
392 ENGLISH PLAYERS 4 TOON // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:01 PM

Ok TDS

Caulker
jamaal lascelles
ross barkley
Mccechran
tom ince
would of had, Clyne or fryers but gone already ther is plenty more out there
393 IFC.Toon // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:01 PM

Disagree totally with English Players 4 Toon

Rooney is world class on his day and Hart….John Terry is world class… A world class c**t
394 Papiss9 // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:02 PM

Simpson and Saylor are regular first team players. Ofcourse Saylor often have injuries, but them willo plays.
395 Les Grossman // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:03 PM

What exactly is the matter with cabaye?
Thought he just had and ‘illness’ ?

Some fookin illness like?
396 ToonDownSouth // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:04 PM

ENGLISH PLAYERS 4 TOON

And those players would be in our starting 11? Um…..

So the squad players we have that are English don’t count. But you’d like us to buy more English squad players.

*face palm*
397 IFC.Toon // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:04 PM

When the FA review the youth system (like Germany did 10 years ago) we might start producing some gifted technical footballers who can pass and create with the likes of Spain Germany and others. I am familiar with the scouting system and the big box to box athletic boy gets scouted over the boy with magic in his feet every time.
398 Gateshead-Mag // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:07 PM

alreet lads n lasses

not really been on today and got to go out now just like to say

buzzing wev got anita and the makems have got haha or saha however you spell it lol

hope this has cheered up the blog today, peace and love and all that

il see yous all on here on saturday for the match for a nee bickering all out tottenham shag fest

toodles
399 Fostino // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:08 PM

english players 4 toon

good players but they cost too much and neither have really proven it yet besides caulker i suppose.

the way to go is the academy…maybe inman, tav, campbel, richardson, dummett, sammy etc will push through
400 pardews plan B // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:09 PM

@English players. Aye id take them for the development squad.
McEachran looks handy
They have potential
401 ToonDownSouth // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:10 PM

Fostino

No, apparently they don’t count, because they dont play.

He wants English players for our starting 11 – then when pushed, he suggests a load of players who would not play in our starting 11.

There’s no point debating with him.
402 pardews plan B // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:12 PM

Caulker looks decent too. If he’s any good the mackems will never keep him. If he’s not they’re stuck with more dead weight.
403 ENGLISH PLAYERS 4 TOON // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:12 PM

TDS sort yourself out matey i asked a couple of questions to gain peoples opinions, you started attacking me, my name, my opinions??? why you so belligerent? aint we all on this blog for the same reason? i know what its like down south but are u really that ugly inside? we can talk about it
404 ENGLISH PLAYERS 4 TOON // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:16 PM

does it make you feel big TDS? giving it big sat behind your computer, you bullied at school? small penis? did me and your mum keep you awake all night? which Shire do you live in if you dont mind me asking?
405 Magpies-till-d3ath // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:17 PM

No sign of Ba- http://www.nufc.co.uk/page/News/Gallery/0,,10278~2887128,00.html
406 pardews plan B // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:17 PM

Gerrard used to be world class
lampard used to be very good
terry used to be great.
Ash Cole used to be world class
rooney is brilliant in patches

however to be considered world class you surely have to be at least on par with the best players in your position. Can’t think of a single English player where there’s not a player head and shoulders better from elsewhere.
407 Deshmukh // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:18 PM

Hey guys. Im a die hard Newcastle fan. Great to see Vurnon join us. We needed a signing badly. Btw I just wrote my first blog article EVER. It would be really nice if you guys could pop in and give me feedback. Its the fantasy premier league tips article on the website http://www.soccerfanbase.com/blog
408 Fostino // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:18 PM

ifc toon

agreed. it doesnt help when the young gifted player is bullied off the ball in underage games becasue a lack of good referreing or when the bad weather makes pitches unplayable or when the manager doesnt trust his players to pass the ball…….the whole system needs to be looked at

im a product of the system too. i coach u18s and my two cms last yr..both were exceptional players, one is the most gifted player techincally ive come accross while the other has an engine and sweet strike..which player do you think i made captain and based my game around????…..it was the the engine who was captain and playmaker. the other lad went missing in games, when the pitch was too bad, the opposition players not being penalised for obvious fouls, he went missing…this is all part of the product. i had a fantastic back four who could pass the ball, but i swear i would get a heart attack on the inside when i saw them pass them pass it around back there with the midfield becasue i was too afraid one of them would make a mistake
409 pardews plan B // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:19 PM

@English players. That’s very grown up.
410 ENGLISH PLAYERS 4 TOON // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:21 PM

Pardews Plan b, name a better LB than Cole
a better GK than Hart
411 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:21 PM

@ English players for toon

Mom jokes, how old are you ?
412 Deshmukh // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:21 PM

Please guys read it for a fellow magpie.
413 steveno7 // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:22 PM

I would like to meet his parents .they must have some sense of humour to call there son vernon. But £6:5 mil a snip for a quality player puts liverpools £15 mill for joe allon to shame .silly buggers
414 Fostino // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:22 PM

krul and santon
415 ENGLISH PLAYERS 4 TOON // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:23 PM

Big Pappa Cisse Im 45 but like to keep in touch with the youts!! was a good one tho imo
416 ToonDownSouth // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:24 PM

Hahahaha

The guy launches into personal insults, and at the same time, follows up with a mum joke, and a comment about ME being a keyboard warrior.

Hahahaha. All I’d done was talk about football.

Christ, what an absolute fruit cake.
417 pardews plan B // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:25 PM

Cassillas, buffon.
Lahm
by miles.
A few seasons ago Cole was up there harts really good but those two are head and shoulders better
418 ToonDownSouth // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:25 PM

You’re 45? Hahaha, oh my god. Brilliant.

A 45 year old insulting people over the internet, whilst making mum jokes.
419 ENGLISH PLAYERS 4 TOON // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:25 PM

Funniest thing about this is that i aint even English, thought more of you wouldn’t mind a few more englishmen in the ranks it was just a thought sorry if i upset anyone, TDS you can come back now, im logging off going to meet your sister at the cinema!!
420 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:27 PM

Marcelo is better than Ashley Cole
421 ENGLISH PLAYERS 4 TOON // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:30 PM

ToonDownSouths Football Comments
Aug 16, 2012 at 4:31 PM

“That name isn’t going to get many serious responses on this blog I’m afraid.”

“There’s no point debating with him.”

*face palm*
422 ENGLISH PLAYERS 4 TOON // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:31 PM

Marcelo hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
423 ROSHAN MAGPIE // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:31 PM

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424 ToonDownSouth // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:32 PM

Wow, that must have cut really deep.

Selective quoting at it’s absolute finest. Bravo.

And, as I pointed out, the majority of comments directed at you have been questioning your name, rather than the point you made.
425 APBWA // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:33 PM

Both Hatem and Cabaye were in competitive training today with Anita
426 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:34 PM

@ English

At this current time Marcelo is better for sure
427 ToonDownSouth // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:35 PM

If you are serious 45, then I’d seriously consider leaving out the personal insults and mum jokes.

There’s no point posting an opinion on a football blog if you’re not willing to have it challenged. Why post it otherwise?

The fact that you completely contradicted yourself, as pointed out in post 391, doesn’t exactly help.
428 eaststandgeordie1982 // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:36 PM

Ive decided to fill the blank space on my toon top with, i want curly hair 2
429 Zebras4Life // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:37 PM

Get ur head checked fella-

Cole and Terry not w it? Please! Chelsea single handedly won the CL with defense. Terry would start blinfolded for our team.
430 steveno7 // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:38 PM

Pardews plan b .
Can u prove to me u are who u say u are .
431 ToonDownSouth // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:38 PM

Terry’s a top top CB – still. He’s got no pace, but neither does Colo.

His reading of the game is world class. He showed it for England over the summer.

Terry would start in any team in the PL, in my opinion.
432 pardews plan B // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:40 PM

@zebras i never said they wouldn’t start for us but they used to be better players.
And they aren’t world class
433 pardews plan B // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:42 PM

Terry is still very good but there are better cbs
434 Zebras4Life // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:43 PM

Thank you TDS – Ill take it one step further and say Terry would start at CB for any team in the world as long as they run a minimum 2 CB’s. He would be the 1st choice on 99% of them!
435 toonLYF // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:44 PM

HBA pictured in training in full tilt, surely if he was injured he wouldn’t be playing intersquad matches in training? Another stroke of genius from Pardew maybe
436 WWYCD // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:44 PM

Haha a English wanting English players to be bought for a English club in the English top league never thought Id see him getting so much argument

For what it matters I agree
437 JackButler // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:46 PM

Cisse is 20/1 to win the golden boot this season, well worth £10, while the Bin Dippers and Spuds are 28/1 for the tile we are in at a modest 125/1
438 nico // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:47 PM

Terry is far to slow now. Any team that has him in it has to defend really deep or get killed for pace. Collo is much quicker. I hope he never plays again for England. Thought England played well last night without him.
439 pardews plan B // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:48 PM

Just a question. How many of these English players have been subject to big offers from abroad? How come they’re only rated in England?
440 WWYCD // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:50 PM

ppB
Its where the money is mate and its one of the best in the world….would anywhere else they went really be a step up? Barring Barca and Madrid am not so sure

And 2 teams can only take so many players
441 proudtobageordie // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:52 PM

Why is everyone harping on about loosing cheick and the two demba’s to acn. Senagal v Ivory Coast to qualify. we only loose the demba’s or cheick. My morgage is on the two dembas not going to ACN
442 JDdubai // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:53 PM

@English

Im sure every one of us would love a team full of English players that could perform as well as the players we have now. But its just not possible is it.

You said you’d like some more in the team, ie starting 11, then list a bunch of young players who would be squad fillers at best and wouldnt be in the team.

Why buy young english squad players with our limited budget when we have them starting to come through the ranks now, all that would do is put back the development of Sammy, Tav, Dummett, Fergie(Irish i know), campbell etc.

Also even English squad players cost far too much right now eg Fletcher/Butland/Jarvis etc so on our budget and club structure, no way we would pay that for average english talent.

And if you want English players who would be good enough to get in our starting 11, then you’re talking 15-20 million each the way the market is right now. Sadly in this day and age, English players are not worth the money.

Like I started with tho, a team of Englishmen would be good, team of geordies would be perfect.
443 ToonDownSouth // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:53 PM

WWYCD

I’ll pose you the question then – as when I posed it before, I got a torrent of personal abuse.

Who on earth could we sign that would start for us? I genuinely struggle to think of anyone English that would touch our starting 11.

If we’re not looking at starting 11′s, we have a fair few Englishmen in our squad. Our academy is comprised of about 75% Englishmen as well.
444 toonLYF // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:54 PM

WWYCD – i’m not arguing at the fact theyre english, i’m arguing at the fact he wants to bring in players of a specific nationality. Surely any nationality is fine as long as the player fits the criteria…there’s loads of clubs in and around the top flight that sign mostly english players, and they’re all shite anyway.
445 Zebras4Life // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:55 PM

Does Barcelona have the most pace in the world? Thought so. Didnt Chelsea shut them out at home…???
446 ToonDownSouth // Aug 16, 2012 at 5:57 PM

JDdubai just explained what I mean, in far more convincing terms.
447 ENGLISH PLAYERS 4 TOON // Aug 16, 2012 at 6:01 PM

Post 354

ToonDownSouth // Aug 16, 2012 at 4:31 PM

That name isn’t going to get many serious responses on this blog I’m afraid.

That is a personal attack on my name not related to football not related to anything i had posted just my name!!
TDS you are a hypocrite, belligernt argumentative.
I may have also contradicted some of my own statements but if you insult me i will come back just as bad. Go back and read that post mate and see why i am being a bit immature towards you and your childish comments
448 WWYCD // Aug 16, 2012 at 6:03 PM

TDS
Adam Johnson or Glen for that matter, Shawcross, Caulker (would push certainly), Sinclair, Dyer, Smalling, Sturridge + Defoe (Would push Ba and Cisse), Bent, that daft named lad at Villa Gabby and thats just off the top of my head. Aye wages would be higher and transfer fees wouldnt be low but thats the game isnt it

toonLYF
Hmm to an extent I agree but I do believe a English team should have English starters in their starting 11
449 ENGLISH PLAYERS 4 TOON // Aug 16, 2012 at 6:06 PM

JDdubai i like what your saying i dont even want 11 englishmen i dont even want 8 i dont even want 6 just 4 or 5 that are strong garunteed starters< thankyou for discussing your opinion thats all i was aiming to assatain until i was insulted and argued at, WWYCD be careful TDS will shower you with hate
450 proudtobageordie // Aug 16, 2012 at 6:07 PM

ANYONE WISH TO COMMENT ON POST 436. IM NEW ON HERE FELLOW LE TOON FANS
451 ENGLISH PLAYERS 4 TOON // Aug 16, 2012 at 6:13 PM

WWYCD fair play mate summed up what ive been trying to say for the last hour or so, however i just like my new friend TDS have problems explaining themselves rationally when they have been insulted (post 354) im suprised we seem to be the only to people who seem to care about it? do you find TDS beligerent and quite hostile or is it just me?
452 WWYCD // Aug 16, 2012 at 6:16 PM

ENGLISH
Haha I think more people feel that way as well mte but realities of the game just make people put it on the back burner and just appreciate that we are evolving as a club plus a lot put their faith in our youth set up with is filled with English lads

I will be honest fella I find TDS sound but he, like everyone, has tendancies of going over board when trying to get a point across plus the general atmosphere on this blog has been stupidly aggressive and touchy for about a week or so
453 roadfighter // Aug 16, 2012 at 6:22 PM

@ WWCYD. I disagree that Sturridge + Defoe would push Ba + Cisse out of our starting lineup. But perhaps as you said both Johnsons.

Sinclair, Dyer, Smalling – not so sure. I don’t think Smalling can replace Colo or Saylor.

But I would add Micah Richards and Ashley Young perhaps.

Also to comment on someone’s point earlier about Gerrard. I think he is still world class even if he’s aged a bit. In my opinion he has been the best English midfielder for the past decade…
454 Iceland // Aug 16, 2012 at 11:42 PM

My team for Spurs if Ben Arfa is Fit

——————————–Krul———————————

Santon——–Taylor———(c)Collocini—————-Jonas

—————–Anita———————–Tiote—————

—–HBA——————Cabaye————————Ba—–

——————————Cisse———————————

If Ben Arfa is injured then swap him with Marveaux.