Pardew – There’s A Lot Wrong With The Europa League


Newcastle manager Alan Pardew has come out today and criticized the Europa League structure, and the fact that Champions League clubs drop down to the Europa League as a kind of compensation,  for going out of the Champions League, which is very strange if  you think about it.

Alan Pardew – not much money in the Europa League

Newcastle are in the ridiculous situation that they have to play against Atromitos FC  in Athens, Greece on Thursday night this week, and then play at Chelsea in an important Premier League match 48 hours later – how’s that for Europa League planning?

Alan Pardew has made some good points in his look at the Europa League and one is the scheduling – Europa league games are played on the Thursday nights, so the clubs in the Premier League hope to have games on the following Sunday, and  why on earth do Champions League clubs drop into the Europa League when they are eliminated from the Champions League?

If that doesn’t tell everybody the Champions League is numero uno – nothing will.

This is what Alan said about the Europa League in the Mirror today:

“I don’t think I am alone in thinking the Europa League is misconceived in terms of the way it is put together.”  “You play so many games and then the Champions League teams fall down to the Europa League – what’s all that about?”

“I think it really needs to be looked at to be honest. We are in it though and we will try to win every competition we are in.”  “But the fact we will have to juggle our playing staff for the Premier League and the Europa League fixtures means we have to take a bit of a gamble with our chances of progressing in Europe.”

“There isn’t a lot of money in it, not unless you win the thing. Not compared to the Premier League.”  “I am still, of course, looking forward to the challenge. You want to pit your wits against other nationalities, other managers with different types of football.”

“There is a risk involved. I have to make sure the team I put out on Thursday get a result, and then the team that plays Chelsea is of a certain level.”

We looked at the compensation of clubs successful in the Europa League, compared with those being successful in the Champions League, and the compensation is about 1/7 of what clubs get from  success in the Champions League – as a rough rule of thumb.

But if the Europa League is the best Newcastle can do, it’s still better than not competing in Europe at all, but the Champions League is where Newcastle will want to be – possibly even next season, although in England it’s hard to qualify, compared with other countries.

In which other country has a club won the Champions League and yet failed to qualify for the competition next season, because they were outside the qualifying positions in their country?

It’s happened only twice and only in England – Liverpool did that in 2005, and Chelsea last season, and that’s never happened in any other country, which illustrates just how good the Premier League is these days.

Maybe UEFA could grant one more place from England in the Champions League – that would not only be good but it would also seem to be fair.

It would also help Newcastle. 😀

What do you think?

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54 comments so far

  • keeping the faith

    Aug 19, 2012 at 10:17 PM

    Comment #1

    First

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  • Kyo

    Aug 19, 2012 at 10:19 PM

    Comment #2

    “First”

    you’re a tool.

    Anyway, Pards is right. Europa League is a joke and not many clubs take it seriously in its current state.

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  • keeping the faith

    Aug 19, 2012 at 10:21 PM

    Comment #3

    Thank you kyo it means a lot. But I agree. If you are disqualified from champions league then why should you get entered into this competition.

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  • APBWA

    Aug 19, 2012 at 10:22 PM

    Comment #4

    @Dannyo

    cheers, other site said bigi played cb!

    Hope pardiola integrates some of the development squad into the team against atromitos, with some older heads and minimal first team players.

    Krul
    Tav Perch Willo R.Taylor
    Abeid Bigi Cabaye
    Obertan Ameobi Marveaux

    Bring Vuckic, Amal and Campbell! on too, only not including Fergie and Sammy cos I think they’re injured

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  • GeordieToon89

    Aug 19, 2012 at 10:26 PM

    Comment #5

    Adam Johnson has been told he can leave Man City… We should really get in on that

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  • Sholadona

    Aug 19, 2012 at 10:26 PM

    Comment #6

    It is silly. City and Man Utd were knocked out of the Champions League last year and moved into the Europa League. If we got through to the knockout rounds and got a surprise big club dropping down from the CL as our opponents, it will be frustrating as me may have to play the same squad twice in a few days.

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  • WWYCD

    Aug 19, 2012 at 10:26 PM

    Comment #7

    Adam Johnson is allowed to leave City apparently…hope we are all over that

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  • WWYCD

    Aug 19, 2012 at 10:28 PM

    Comment #8

    GT89
    Jinx 😉 haha

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  • keeping the faith

    Aug 19, 2012 at 10:28 PM

    Comment #9

    I would take Johnson on loan.

    I don’t see why champions league teams get 2 chances, especially with the money they get from CL.

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  • JDdubai

    Aug 19, 2012 at 10:30 PM

    Comment #10

    @Apwa 4

    So you want Cabaye to play thursday in greece and then saturday at chelsea while still not match fit????

    Fraid Europa will be our youth development cup this season, Premier League comes first. Not too bad to have 1 or 2 first team players playing in it every week but not when the space between matches is this stupid. If we qualify for the group stages then fair enough to get some first teamers involved with the bairns.

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  • pardew no 1

    Aug 19, 2012 at 10:32 PM

    Comment #11

    Europe team
    …………..harper
    tav….willo…perch…raylor
    …………abied……..bigi….
    ……………….vuckic……..
    obertan…….shola…..marveux

    bring collo on for the last 10 mins

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  • keeping the faith

    Aug 19, 2012 at 10:34 PM

    Comment #12

    I would like to see Campbell Get some game time , even a start if the mackem slayer is injured.

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  • Nick 69

    Aug 19, 2012 at 10:35 PM

    Comment #13

    i think thurs will very much be youngsters. We have Chelsea on sat, and we have another leg to play the big guns if need be. We will see more experienced players in Europa in the group stages when we get to play our league games on the Sun and not 2 days later on the Sat

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  • APBWA

    Aug 19, 2012 at 10:35 PM

    Comment #14

    @JDdubai

    That is how you get someone “match” fit, by giving them games!

    If needs be put Anita in CDM with Tiote vs Chelsea, a lot of the game went past cabs so wouldn’t complain, and we will need both to be on their games with Hazard, Mata etc in form!

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  • JDdubai

    Aug 19, 2012 at 10:40 PM

    Comment #15

    But you dont get match fit by playing 2 matches in 2 days, otherwise preseason wouldnt have the matches spread out over a month or 2, they would just all be in a week.

    Batterings someone who isnt fit with too many matches at once is how you injure them as their body doesnt recover quickly enough to handle the next match.

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  • keeping the faith

    Aug 19, 2012 at 10:40 PM

    Comment #16

    Geesh kyo!! Nothing back?

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  • APBWA

    Aug 19, 2012 at 10:42 PM

    Comment #17

    @JD
    Wouldn’t start Cabs against chelsea, probably bring him on for Ba/Cisse and give him 20 mins… Then bring him off after 60 (if winning) for amal vs atromitos

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  • SupaToonKid

    Aug 19, 2012 at 10:44 PM

    Comment #18

    NUFC XI vs Aritomis (4-3-2-1):
    Harper;
    Tavernier, Williamson, Perch, R. Taylor;
    Anita, Gosling;
    Amalfitano, Obertan, Marveaux
    Sh. Ameobi

    Subs: Elliot, Good, Dummett, Bigirimana, Abeid, Vuckic, Campbell

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  • Sazzer

    Aug 19, 2012 at 10:46 PM

    Comment #19

    I think we will play Tav Willo as CB. R.Taylor and Fergie as fullbacks.

    Perch will play against Chelsea.

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  • keeping the faith

    Aug 19, 2012 at 10:46 PM

    Comment #20

    My team v chelski
    Krul
    Simmo – Colo – Saylor -Santon
    Cabaye – Tiote
    Ben Arfa – Ba – Gutierrez
    Cisse

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  • SupaToonKid

    Aug 19, 2012 at 10:46 PM

    Comment #21

    NUFC XI vs Aritomis (4-3-2-1):
    Harper;
    Tavernier, Williamson, Perch, R. Taylor;
    Anita, Gosling;
    Amalfitano, Obertan, Marveaux
    Sh. Ameobi

    Subs: Elliot, Good, Dummett, Bigirimana, Abeid, Vuckic, Campbell

    I think we’ll start the same side vs Chelsea that we did vs Spurs but of course Collocini will come back in for Perch.

    This Europa game will allow Marveaux & Anita especially the chance to impress and try get Pards to play them in a 4-3-2-1 formation.

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  • MacToon

    Aug 19, 2012 at 10:47 PM

    Comment #22

    We played 2 games in 2 days in a pre-season competition! Obviously pardew used that competition to plan his assault on 4 competitions this season.
    He get’s well paid to deal with these situations and hope he manages them well.

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  • SupaToonKid

    Aug 19, 2012 at 10:48 PM

    Comment #23

    Sorry 4-2-3-1 formation not 4-3-2-1

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  • APBWA

    Aug 19, 2012 at 10:49 PM

    Comment #24

    Also think it could be beneficial to take Cisse (or Ba) to Greece, to keep Di Matteo guessing on the team and formation we will play, otherwise it will be an obvious 4-4-2

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  • euanpolo

    Aug 19, 2012 at 10:50 PM

    Comment #25

    Why is the Atromitos away leg not on U.K. television. I know ITV4 has the Liverpool game but what about Channel 5 and ESPN.

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  • Spuggy

    Aug 19, 2012 at 10:51 PM

    Comment #26

    It’s not just about the match on Thurs, it’s the travelling 4 hours each way and how exhausting it it. Far better to leave most of our top players at home and give the youngster a crack.

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  • Tiote4PM

    Aug 19, 2012 at 10:51 PM

    Comment #27

    Getting Europa is a kick in the teeth for finishing 5th for the club, but great for the fans.

    I would like o see I used to really blood our up and comers. Really good opportunity for them. Leave our first 11 for Saturdays as prem is more important.

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  • Munster Mag

    Aug 19, 2012 at 10:52 PM

    Comment #28

    Is it just me or is that Spurs manager a horrible little graceless jumped up runt??

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  • Transfer Sage

    Aug 19, 2012 at 10:55 PM

    Comment #29

    Apparently the first leg is available to watch free on uefa.com

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  • keeping the faith

    Aug 19, 2012 at 10:55 PM

    Comment #30

    Rhought Rednakk got sacked?

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  • Sazzer

    Aug 19, 2012 at 10:56 PM

    Comment #31

    I would rather have Anita and Marveux stay home with first team and work out different scenarios than fly them off to Greece. If Tiote, Cabaye, or Ben-arfa get injured early against Chelsea they would have to play 80 min. Trust the youngsters.

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  • keeping the faith

    Aug 19, 2012 at 10:56 PM

    Comment #32

    *thought ** Redknapp

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  • euanpolo

    Aug 19, 2012 at 10:56 PM

    Comment #33

    Oh that’s good – well done Uefa actually caring about the fans!

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  • BelfastMagpie87

    Aug 19, 2012 at 10:57 PM

    Comment #34

    Its not on t.v.

    Im done with them dodgy streams like lol

    Laptops been f***** from that den hagg game.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Aug 19, 2012 at 10:57 PM

    Comment #35

    Spuggy

    The flight won’t be too bad, players will be straight through with no hassle and on the plane.

    Won’t have the tiring things of a normal flight like organising everything, keeping he kids in check, figurin out exactly where you need to go etc

    The main problem I think is you waste 2 days travelling you could spend preparing for the game.

    Also you have to prepare for 2 different sides in the time you normally prepare for one. That’s the killer I think.

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  • BelfastMagpie87

    Aug 19, 2012 at 11:00 PM

    Comment #36

    Madrid v Barca is on sky the same nyt like.

    So I’ll be watching that lol

    Channel 5 dont get the Europa games anymore now.

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  • keeping the faith

    Aug 19, 2012 at 11:01 PM

    Comment #37

    Agree with sage. It takes away all the prep for the weekend. 48 hrs isnot enough.

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  • euanpolo

    Aug 19, 2012 at 11:11 PM

    Comment #38

    Confirmation that the Atromitos – Newcastle will be on uefa.com (see the bottom of the article)

    http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/news/newsid=1847754.html

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  • jesperfuglsang

    Aug 19, 2012 at 11:12 PM

    Comment #39

    The answer is not to allow one more English team into CL; you need to make EL more attractive!

    Anyways CL should really only be for Champions…money has corupted the game!

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  • SupaToonKid

    Aug 19, 2012 at 11:20 PM

    Comment #40

    Sazzer

    Me personally I wouldn’t start them but I was thinking from Pards mind I think 🙂

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