What Will Liverpool Do With Andy Carroll?

News in the Daily Mirror today that Liverpool, who looked hopeless at West Brom on Saturday and were soundly beaten 3-0, are giving former Newcastle striker Andy Carroll an ultimatum, and telling him that he needs to move on,  or risk being on the bench this season.

Andy Carroll – will only leave Liverpool for Newcastle

For all the talk of new manager Brendan Rodgers about Andy being a good player and a good professional,  that fooled absolutely nobody, and it’s obvious that Andy just doesn’t fit into the way the new Liverpool boss will have Liverpool playing  football this season – with the ball on the ground.

Brendan will not play to Andy’s strengths, and at least this is now coming to the fore, since Liverpool’s former manager  Kenny Dalglish, after paying Newcastle £35M for the Geordie striker, never played to Andy’s strengths either.

Kenny paid for that with his job, shortly after last season ended, and Liverpool were in 8th place in the Premier League and behind rivals Everton in the table – simply not good enough for a great club like Liverpool, who have been European Champions five times.

Liverpool do not want to be put into a corner on the last day of the transfer market – by some club – for example by Newcastle United (just a wild guess) – and will tell Carroll that he has to decide his future this week.

Some news we have received from two independent and reliable sources over the weekend, say that Andy is now desperate to come back to Newcastle, and will continue to refuse to join any other club.

That will hardly help Liverpool in their efforts to get around £19M for a season long loan deal,  plus the option of a permanent transfer next summer.

Sources at Anfield have told the Daily Mirror the following:

“We will only do what is best for Liverpool Football Club, and that means we need time to find replacements if any players go.”

But Liverpool have already brought in another striker in Italian Fabio Borini,  who started alongside Louis Suarez on Saturday at the Hawthorns, and Andy was on the bench, until he was brought on with 12 minutes to go,  but Liverpool were already 3-0 down.

It seems that Liverpool would rather keep Andy as a back-up striker than lose him for less than £19M – and especially if the other club is Newcastle, since we got £35M for Andy only a short 18 months ago.

Andy Carroll has already turned down West Ham, and according to the Mirror – Aston Villa and Fulham too – but Newcastle are not going to pay out £19M for the striker, and they have offered to pay £13M, and are unlikely to move too much on that figure – maybe increase it by £1M on the last day of the transfer window – maybe.

Tottenham may become interested in the player, after they sell Luka Modric to Real Madrid, but we don’t think Andy would be too interested in moving to White Hart Lane, so this sets up an intriguing last 10 days of the transfer window.

And it could be that Andy refuses to move to any other club than Newcastle, and the Magpies refuse to meet Liverpool’s valuation –  and Andy is stuck at Liverpool – and the Reds have a £35M current England International sitting on the bench.

But that’s Liverpool’s problem, certainly not Newcastle’s,  and it’s not Andy’s problem either, as the Geordie striker by all accounts has acted extremely professionally this season under the new Liverpool manager.

It’s Liverpool’s problem and Mike Ashley is well aware of that – and that’s what worries Liverpool the most.

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82 comments so far

  • 2_goal_tino

    Aug 21, 2012 at 1:36 AM

    Comment #1

    Who cares? He’s nothing to do with us and shouldn’t ever be again in the future (certainly not at the price they want). Play, sit on the bench, loaned out or left to rot in the reserves, none of it makes any difference to us.

  • shamsoftabriz

    Aug 21, 2012 at 1:41 AM

    Comment #2

    1. We are better than Liverpool
    2. Andy Carroll isn’t good enough for Liverpool
    3. Andy Carroll isn’t good enough for us!

    I know he’s local. I know we got 35 million pounds for him last season. I know he’s tall. I know he has a sexy ponytail. But please, Newcastle fans, stop obsessing over a player that your skilled, efficient, deft team have outgrown!! We are an excellent team now that will contend for 4th in the Premier League. We JUST took 3 points over the team that finished fourth last season. We do not need to rely on the likes of Andy Carroll any longer!!

    Do we miss our mediocrity that badly?

    We have quality now, and we need to adjust our notions of what a quality player is! Carroll was a quality player for us when we were in the Championship and even when we were languishing in the middle of the table. Those days are over! Evolve, Newcastle fans….evolve… 😉

  • JP...from The Rock

    Aug 21, 2012 at 1:43 AM

    Comment #3

    Not this again, who cares.

  • i Toon

    Aug 21, 2012 at 1:45 AM

    Comment #4

    Carroll isn’t good as Ba or Cisse so if he comes back expect the bench

  • JP...from The Rock

    Aug 21, 2012 at 1:45 AM

    Comment #5

    shamsoftabriz – Spot on 🙂

  • ilovetoon8788

    Aug 21, 2012 at 1:48 AM

    Comment #6

    We play so much long ball that honestly he fits our system perfectly. He’d score plenty with us.

  • Novocastrian66

    Aug 21, 2012 at 2:03 AM

    Comment #7

    Judging by Liverpool’s performance on Saturday, and they were awful, they should keep hold of him.
    Saurez cannot hit a stable door.
    Either Rodgers or his philosophy will be abandoned before Christmas.

  • Kyo

    Aug 21, 2012 at 2:16 AM

    Comment #8

    Agree with 2 goal tino.

    We don’t need Carroll. He’s not our problem.

  • HBA Blood Twister

    Aug 21, 2012 at 2:35 AM

    Comment #9

    £13m? Didn’t Pards say we had bid £7m?

    I think we’ll go to £9m and that would be fair. He’s worth naff all to Rodgers so I think he’ll snap our hands off.

  • Starman

    Aug 21, 2012 at 2:48 AM

    Comment #10

    If we are laying siege to a team at home, he might be useful,
    he could also be useful replacing the bulbs in the floodlights.

  • lukes26

    Aug 21, 2012 at 2:49 AM

    Comment #11

    I think Brendan Rodgers is silly….That’s fine, keep Suarez & his 11 goals in 31 outings and his charming ways.

    Carroll scored as many in half a season for newcastle. there’s no reason to think he can’t do the same again.

    His wages would be an issue, so I don’t think it would be crazy to think that to unload him, liverpool would need to cut his transfer fee to below 10 million & Carroll would need to accept lower wages with target incentives included.

    Doable, but not likely.

  • Sav

    Aug 21, 2012 at 3:34 AM

    Comment #12

    Carroll IMO is the best header of the ball in the Prem. That’s a talent not to be dismissed. He also has a better touch than he is given credit for. We’ll have a lot of games and after Ba and Cisse, (our first choice strikers with or without Carroll), there’s not much cover. Carroll can be a success, especially in Europe. And in closing games down, he is as good as another centre-half.
    So I wouldn’t dismiss this deal, it is just a question of the price and of Andy’s £4 million p.a. wages which Dalglish stupidly paid out and why they can’t sell him to a smaller club.
    If the deal can be done, I’d be glad to have him back.

  • Brutooon

    Aug 21, 2012 at 3:51 AM

    Comment #13

    1) REMINDER : Andy Carroll is not as good as what SOME of you think!

    2) We got Demba Ba and Cisse who is better than him.

    3) Shola Ameobi and maybe Adam Campbell is our backup

    4) The reason SOME FANS want Andy Carroll back is because he is a Geordie – but remember he was given the LEGENDARY No 9 shirt and become a TRAITOR and move to liverFOOOL (Remember his smile when doing the medical in Anfield)

    5) Andy Carroll is NEVER in a top 6 team – either with us or liverfoool

    6) Plus his style wont suit our current system

    7) with Carroll we are 10th in the league, without him we are 5th in the league

  • Toon XI

    Aug 21, 2012 at 4:03 AM

    Comment #14

    Carroll is a cancer in the changing room. He’ll destroy our morale and team spirit if he returns.

  • Zebras4Life

    Aug 21, 2012 at 4:16 AM

    Comment #15

    I’d take him back. We need 3 ST in rotation especially w ACON.

  • brian kilclines pony tail

    Aug 21, 2012 at 4:17 AM

    Comment #16

    @ shamsoftabriz – its a shame the majority dont see the truth about how we need to grow as a club and not go back for a player with only 6 months good premier league form where he was in a team set up around him, this team is not set up around any individual and thats why if he came back i feel he would fail and that wouldn’t be his fault, but he would.

  • shearermania

    Aug 21, 2012 at 4:24 AM

    Comment #17

    I just bid 5 quid on ebay for rangers medal…hes still mulling over the offer

  • ilovetoon8788

    Aug 21, 2012 at 5:25 AM

    Comment #18

    Carroll won’t suit our system? Up till our last match, we are still hoofball. What system are u talking about? I lost count how many times Simpson tiote cabaye and guti hoofed the ball straight back to spurs.

    Carroll would be quite awesome in our system.

  • valle

    Aug 21, 2012 at 5:48 AM

    Comment #19

    Toon XI… AP have had AC in his changingroom before, I really doubt that he would want him back if what you said were true, so lets just wait and see shall we?

  • swemag

    Aug 21, 2012 at 6:03 AM

    Comment #20

    I am more excited about Adam Campbell possibly getting a few goals in the coming weeks than Andy Carroll. To be honest, in a years time Campbell will be more worth than Carroll. Hope he gets a good 45 minutes on thursday.

  • steinhof

    Aug 21, 2012 at 6:10 AM

    Comment #21

    Be interesting to see what would happen if we offered Liverpool their asking price but said to Carroll 30K/week but we guarantee you a starting place. It’s hypothetical but I’m fairly sure I know what his answer would be.

  • Magpie from Lithuania

    Aug 21, 2012 at 6:39 AM

    Comment #22

    Carroll is a good striker, if AP wants him, i want him even more. I like the style of play then Ben Arfa takes people on (or midfielders passes the ball on the ground or full back overlaping) and crosses the ball into the box, who’s better than AC to head the ball into the net? I like this style of play, look at these type of goals Shearer had scored, they are so ENTERTAINING. 🙂 I WANT CARROLL BACK, but there not much we can do if Liverpool wants they own Xisco… 😀

  • Magpie from Lithuania

    Aug 21, 2012 at 6:39 AM

    Comment #23

    their own..

  • Magpie from Lithuania

    Aug 21, 2012 at 6:42 AM

    Comment #24

    Carroll said he surely cut his wage by a half at minimum to play again for Newcastle. And i think number 35 would siut him as well.

  • Transfer Sage

    Aug 21, 2012 at 6:44 AM

    Comment #25

    Carroll would be effective. He would maybe get 10 or so goals a season.

    I just think if you have 19 million you could do so much more.

    On his form the last 2 years I would offer no more than 7/8 million.

    If they won’t accept that and he won’t go anywhere else then just leave him on liverpools books til they accept out terms.

  • Magpie from Lithuania

    Aug 21, 2012 at 6:46 AM

    Comment #26

    Carroll, Pieters or Douglas signings would be a perfect transfer window ending for me if no one leaves, which i think is more likely then ever before (players to stay i mean)

  • Magpie from Lithuania

    Aug 21, 2012 at 6:48 AM

    Comment #27

    Carroll would score 13+ goals this season. If MA and AP thinks he is worth taking him back for 13M then he is worth that, believe me.

  • Magpie from Lithuania

    Aug 21, 2012 at 6:49 AM

    Comment #28

    And i think Debouchy in Jan is a plausibility

  • HullMag6

    Aug 21, 2012 at 6:53 AM

    Comment #29

    If the deal is right for the club, id take him back no questions. He is more physically a handful for defences and its not just hoofball hes good at. It would be an extra option in the armoury. In rotation or super sub with shola. I think AP can handle the personality, so what the problem?

  • Magpie from Lithuania

    Aug 21, 2012 at 6:54 AM

    Comment #30

    Carroll style of play is the only answer then playing against the “bus parked in front of the goal”. He could be a match winner in Europe and EPL. Imagine if the score is level and it’s 88min. Opposition has 10 players in their box, how to score a winner? With andy Carroll i know how. P.s Our set pieces would be much more dangerous, i rebember last years set pieces – high balls to williamson at the side of the box to head the ball back into the center of the box… IT WAS NOT EFFECTIVE, and trust me AP knows it really well..

  • Magpie from Lithuania

    Aug 21, 2012 at 6:59 AM

    Comment #31


    look at the stats, and AP knows the stats very well.. I think we need Andy Carroll and AC need us even more. Liverpool would be foolish not to sell him back to us for cheap. 😀

  • Magpie from Lithuania

    Aug 21, 2012 at 7:10 AM

    Comment #32

    there are you people?

  • Hatem's better than Messi

    Aug 21, 2012 at 7:32 AM

    Comment #33

    Get him bought.


  • bambams

    Aug 21, 2012 at 7:34 AM

    Comment #34

    I think it’s a win win all round for toon, if we do sign him it will be for peanuts ‘undisclosed amount’ which will keep liverfool management happy, we will get a ‘ different type of striker ‘ to come off the bench – but if we do not sign him we can again laugh at what liverfool paid and we can look at other striking options available, possibly someone nippy and with loads of pace . . . What’s that young lad at Newcastle called, Ooh we already have him ! Campbell deserves ten games and let’s see what he can do, in January we can decide if we need to sign a striker. IMO

  • gorgonzola ( former Pecorino former to gorgonzola)

    Aug 21, 2012 at 7:48 AM

    Comment #35

    Lets seee…hmm I dot give a DAMN…

    If we get Remy WHO is this guy? really?

  • tony green

    Aug 21, 2012 at 7:53 AM

    Comment #36

    AC seems to have us posters divided.

    Agree with Sav’s points. Also agree club has moved on…but MAYBE AC has too..and hopefully learned a little.

    IF he doesn’t disrupt dressing room harmony (and after that brutality with the linesman perhaps AC will be in awe of AP 🙂 ) AND if we get him on our terms then I can live with that.

    Can’t see how Brutoon calculates his point 7) but that’s the beauty of a blog and being able to put your opinion out there.


  • Hatem's better than Messi

    Aug 21, 2012 at 8:00 AM

    Comment #37

    #13 Toon XI // Aug 21, 2012 at 4:03 AM

    Carroll is a cancer in the changing room. He’ll destroy our morale and team spirit if he returns.

    Based on spending how much time in a dressing room with Andy Carroll?
    One of the most stupid comments I’ve ever read on here.

    Nasty and pure fiction.

  • stu.toon

    Aug 21, 2012 at 8:04 AM

    Comment #38

    He may be holding out to come back to toon but do we really think he’ll take a 50% pay cut? If I was him I’d “risk” the bench all season n collect 90k a week for my troubles. Because he ain’t guaranteed first team at nufc either.

  • Ian Toon

    Aug 21, 2012 at 8:09 AM

    Comment #39

    We need a right back and centre half. Douglas is now transfer listed . If that means a bidding war we won’t be involved. We do have options like switching Santon to right back and buying Pieters who could play
    right back/centre half. Coloccini is vital to us and we need to ensure he
    is available for key matches. Williamson has fallen down the pecking order he didn’t play that much pre season and Perch has risen in the Pardew rating. Perch is not a midfield player. On Carroll well if we
    keep Cisse and Ba and with Campbell being fast tracked do we really need him. With around ten days before window closes it could well depend on the asking price because Ashley will not be able to resist a

  • Tsunki

    Aug 21, 2012 at 8:14 AM

    Comment #40

    I can’t believe some of the knee-jerk rot I read about Carroll. Prior to being sold he was our prize. When we lost him we all felt that Mike had sold the heart and soul of the team, but understood the call of stupid fools money. Brutooon’s absolutely stupid (although not expecting much) post sums it all up. Dear oh dear

    Carroll is an International player, who can play and score goals at that level. Liverpool have ruined his stock, by buying too high, then when they got him they didn’t adjust the team around him because KKK is a washed-up has been with no clue about the current game. Brendan Rodgers likes his boring pitter-pat stuff but has no idea how to get a ball to a striker or indeed recognise what one is to include him in his team.

    What Liverpool have now is a very good player who still influences games, which they need to offload at a huge loss, whose morale is at an all-time low, and who will have to get his head round to a reduced wage and a few bench starts and hard work to pick up the career he had rising when he was here. IF we did buy him, I would say that NUFC staff know what they are doing, and it would signal a player with a matured attitude and a desire to put wrongs right by sticking with us. I doubt he will come back, probably mostly because his attitude may not be what Pards wants in his dressing room, and of the hate us Mags can sometimes focus on such a player. But come on, grow up with the traitor stuff and the ‘useless player’ nonsense, really.


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