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• 1 davybtoon // Aug 22, 2012 at 11:37 PM

  Haha Liverpool gonna look foolish no matter what here Carroll won’t go anywhere but us already proved that with west ham, Liverpool keep him n he ain’t gonna play his value drops even more

• 2 davybtoon // Aug 22, 2012 at 11:40 PM

  Hattem good authority you mean the times stop bullshitting lad

• 3 ToonDownSouth // Aug 22, 2012 at 11:40 PM

  Rodgers appears to be one of the worst PR men I’ve ever seen.

  He comes across intelligently, but as soon as there’s any pressure he starts contradicting himself, getting very red in the face, and basically insulting his own player.

  I bloody love it.

• 4 TheWellGeordie // Aug 22, 2012 at 11:42 PM

  It might put them in a tight situation, but what about us? Carroll wouldn’t fit into the mold of the current Newcastle side and there would be division among the fans – Some will welcome him back, others won’t be so accommodating. It’s important to remember that with Cisse & Ba (and hopefully Campbell in the near future) Carroll will also be warming the bench here. So what is in it for us? Other than paying 12 million or so next season for a striker that really isn’t Premier League standard?

  I really hope we go after another striker like John Guidetti rather than chasing Carroll forevermore.

• 5 Magpies-till-d3ath // Aug 22, 2012 at 11:43 PM

  Krul- £0m
  Simpson £0.5m
  Coloccini- £11m
  Saylor- £0m
  Santon- £5m
  Tiote- £3.5m
  Cabaye- £4.5m
  Gutierrez- £6m
  Ben Arfa- £5m
  Cisse- £9m
  Ba- £0m

  Total=

• 6 Magpies-till-d3ath // Aug 22, 2012 at 11:45 PM

  Sorry, hit submit by mistake!
  Total= 44.5million
  Carroll, Downing, Borini, Allen, Suarez, Henderson= £127m

  HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! I could laugh at Liverpool all day!

• 7 Graeme // Aug 22, 2012 at 11:47 PM

  The Poo are between a rock and a hard place.

  They paid £35million for a £12 million player and just dont know what to do – isnt life a bitch. As long as AC insists he will only leave the fools for a return to TOOOON, we are the only game in town as far as Poo are concerned.

  The quicker Poo realise they paid 3 times over his value, will never get the money back, the better they will be. You got suckered, fleeced, call it what you will but deal with it. You will never get more than £12 million for him and if you dont play him, his price will drop further lol.

  That nasty Mr Ashley is waiting for you – and you know it!!

• 8 JTOONJ // Aug 22, 2012 at 11:52 PM

  if i was AC on 80K a week i’d stay for awhile build up a pension for a year an leave ;P

• 9 ToonDownSouth // Aug 22, 2012 at 11:53 PM

  Anyone think we would really sell Colo?

  A player coming towards the latter stages of his career, won’t have a sell on value for much longer, a bid from City may be too much for Ashley to turn down?

  Colo & Krul are genuinely the two players that I think we simply cannot afford to sell – that would be game over as far as European hopes.

• 10 Munster Mag // Aug 22, 2012 at 11:53 PM

  tds, I love it too. Initially i hated losing such a unique striker, until 10 seconds later i realised the price and thought…..wtf ….what a bonkers sum of money. I also reckon Andy will suffer plenty of strains in his career, as tall players often do, and tend to have poor injury records, like Duncan Ferguson. Can u imagine going on the piss with Dunc and Carroll , bloody scary shit…..

• 11 MUTINYbyLEMONS // Aug 22, 2012 at 11:54 PM

  I doubt there would be any bids for Colo tbh

• 12 Minato // Aug 22, 2012 at 11:54 PM

  Loved Andy when he was here and was distraught to see him leave…however at this point I’ll say what I’ve been saying all summer.. Really hope we jut stay away from this one.. We won’t get him for 12 million and any more would be far to much of a gamble to pay anymore. Think we really lucked out when we got as much money for him as we did and would be just as wise to stay clear.

• 13 JTOONJ // Aug 22, 2012 at 11:56 PM

  How bigger contract is he on? Get him on a free when he is 24/25?

• 14 peterrwrightt // Aug 22, 2012 at 11:58 PM

  mtt
  Steven Taylor worth £0m? :O

• 15 BelfastMagpie87 // Aug 22, 2012 at 11:58 PM

  12 million is too much.

  People think he’s gonna come back and bang in the goals again.

  In reality we could bring him back & he could be just as crap for us lol

• 16 Minato // Aug 22, 2012 at 11:59 PM

  @14

  Think he means we got him for nothing..

• 17 gaz 44 // Aug 22, 2012 at 11:59 PM

  don’t know where this has come from bout collo going to city but does anyone think captain fantastic would leave for shitty where he would be behind kompany and lescot .. gotta remember he’s at the end of his career(ish) he isn’t gonna want t spend it on the bench.. not as though he needs an increase in pay.. adored by the fans who stuck by him after first yr.. althoug i feel he’s repaid us for that already.. i just think its a mutual love between Feb n ourselves.. see him being a coach here when he hangs up them boots

• 18 keeping the faith // Aug 23, 2012 at 12:01 AM

  Ed you said it. Cisse for 9mill and Ba for zilch….. Then why oh why pay £12m for a striker that’s scored slightly more goals in his whole career than the 2 Senegalese boys scored in season

• 19 achtoon // Aug 23, 2012 at 12:02 AM

  All i can think of is the big smile on carrols face as he was going in to liverpool for the transfer. He should not be allowed back and i hope this is a genious bluff by ashley

• 20 Minato // Aug 23, 2012 at 12:03 AM

  @17

  Completely agree..I expect Colo to finish his career with us and I hope Guti does also. Loyal to the club when we were at our lowest in the championship and emblematic of the kind of team work ethic we have developed since we returned..great moves by Pards to have these men as captain and vice captain.

• 21 ToonDownSouth // Aug 23, 2012 at 12:03 AM

  Would Colo be behind Lescott? I think he’s a far better footballer.

• 22 BelfastMagpie87 // Aug 23, 2012 at 12:05 AM

  I think if Man City made a decent bid,Ashley would sell him.

  Highest paid player too.

  Hope it’s bullshit.

• 23 peterrwrightt // Aug 23, 2012 at 12:06 AM

  TDS
  i agree, Coloccini would be partnering Kompany.

• 24 BelfastMagpie87 // Aug 23, 2012 at 12:09 AM

  I dont think Mancini is Lescotts biggest fan to be honest.

  They only started to play him when Toure got the drug ban.

• 25 Redman // Aug 23, 2012 at 12:10 AM

  Take your black-and-white tinted specs off folks.

  Yes, Liverpool vastly overpaid for Carroll.
  And now Newcastle are vastly under-offering for him.

  West Ham’s offer has set big Andy’s true value so you’re going to have to come close to matching it if you want him back. If not, fair enough. He’ll have to go somewhere else.

  Like West Ham, perhaps.

• 26 Andymax // Aug 23, 2012 at 12:11 AM

  Rodgers is losing the plot, the pressure is getting to him judging by his comments.

• 27 Zebras4Life // Aug 23, 2012 at 12:12 AM

  I like Collo better than Lescott. Furthermore, could Ashley and Carroll pull off the ultimate Coup

• 28 RonVanDam // Aug 23, 2012 at 12:13 AM

  No only will his value detoriate on the bench, L’pool will still be paying his wages. Between now and the Jan window – they would’ve paid another 2m in cash in wages. The’ll be better off selling him now

• 29 magpiebop // Aug 23, 2012 at 12:13 AM

  4-2-3-1
  Harper.
  Tavernier,Perch,Williamson(c),RTaylor
  Bigirimana,Anita.
  Obertan,Gosling,Marveaux.
  Campbell.

  Looks like a team to get the job done.

• 30 JP...from The Rock // Aug 23, 2012 at 12:18 AM

  Haha I love it. Roll in your bed thinking about it Rodgers! I would only want Carroll back if it were a loan deal with option to buy for ‘no more than’ 12M. Even then I still wouldn’t like to give Judas the pleasure of returning.

  I would prefer Pardew introducing teenage sensation Adam Campbell to the world tomorrow night. I believe this is the fast, young striker we all craved, and we had him under our noses all along. He obviously needs a lot of time but you can tell by his positional sense, pace and finishing that he’s something special.

  I hope to see him in action tomorrow. I am sick of hearing about Carroll it’s all so boring.

  3-1 to the toon tomorrow night.

  HWTL

• 31 JAMSHA // Aug 23, 2012 at 12:22 AM

  Poor Fools & Their Manager… I guess They wont ever try to Get any of are players nxt time…

• 32 nufc90 // Aug 23, 2012 at 12:29 AM

  Still think we need another striker as we don’t want to be putting too much pressure on Campbell too soon. Dipping him into Europe and sub appearances is fine but he still needs a few years to develop into a real first team talent I feel

• 33 JP...from The Rock // Aug 23, 2012 at 12:33 AM

  nufc90 – yeah I think you’re right but it is an exciting thought though. He could be what Michael Owen should have been for us

• 34 AmericanGeordie // Aug 23, 2012 at 12:35 AM

  I’ve made this point a couple of times on here already. Everyone continues to focus on the transfer fee, but the Carroll story is ALL about the WAGES.

  1. AC is on £80k/week for 4 more years. So, Liverpool is contractually obligated to pay him £16M.

  2. Rodgers can whine about the £35M all he wants, but it’s irrelevant! He has a player he doesn’t want and the big wages only REDUCE his transfer value. See the Adebayor situation. He is still in his 20s, he banged in 18 goals last year, yet Man City accepted £5M for him AND they have to pay £100 of his £170/week for the next 2 years! In essence They PAID OUT £5M to get rid of him!!!!

  If I’m Ashley, I’d offer £5-10M to Cesspool and £40,000/week to AC TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT.

  If Carroll only has eyes for Newcastle at this point, Liverpool has no choice and will eventually sell him to us. (And if AC’s agent is worth his salt, he’ll make the Reds pay Andy part of that transfer fee to make up for his reduced wages on Tyneside.

• 35 thai-mag // Aug 23, 2012 at 1:08 AM

  carroll will be at liverpool long after rodgers gets the sack, nobody will pay 20 million and 80,000a week, it’s insane

• 36 ~Anita One Bites the Dust~ // Aug 23, 2012 at 1:16 AM

  @Belfastmagpie87 comment 15

  Exactly. I completely agree. Some people, not all. Seem to think that because he was on fire when he was with us, that he will be re ignited once again. Those people seem to be blissfully unaware of the fact that our midfield (with the exception of Spider man and the Hulk) is completely different. Two of the main providers of Andy Carrolls goals (Barton and Nolan) have left the club, and their positions filled in with players that are far more technical (Arfa and Cabaye) who prefer the ball on the ground as opposed to sailing through the air.

  Andy Carroll has so far shown, that he can’t adapt to liverpools style of play, therefore forcing the 10 other men on the pitch to have to change their style to hoof ball, everytime Carroll steps on the pitch.

  If Andy comes back here, that might end up happening to us, and is therefore a step backwards.

• 37 pawl250 // Aug 23, 2012 at 1:28 AM

  If you buy Andy Carroll it’s for another option of style you will play.

  1. He is worth around 14m-15m in today’s market, especially considering Fletcher is 13m and Allen is 15m.
  2. If he came he has already accepted he would take a pay cut.
  3. The fans would back him, allowing the confidence to return.

  Andy Carroll is a player where you see what you get. He would allow us to become dangerous on set peices something we clearly right now are weak at.

  Scenario – 89th minute free kick in opposition half. You would want Carroll in your team for this moment alone

  Cisse is a fox in a box, Ba and all round type player that lacks pace and Carroll header specialist.

  The variation he could add to our attack would be vital. For me though the board should be focusing on a certain area that we look weak. DEFENCE! Is it just the fans who can see this, surely not?!

• 38 JAMSHA // Aug 23, 2012 at 1:48 AM

  any news on xisco??????

• 39 JAMSHA // Aug 23, 2012 at 1:49 AM

  any news on xisco??????..

• 40 ~Anita One Bites the Dust~ // Aug 23, 2012 at 2:01 AM

  How is Andy Carroll worth 14m-15m.

  Facts:
  1. Fletcher scored 12 goals last season for Wolves. A team weaker then liverpool. Evident by the fact that they were relegated. Andy Carroll scored 6 for Liverpool since Joining them. If your going by this stat alone. Fletcher should be worth more.

  2. They are both around the same age. Carroll being 23. Fletcher being 25. So age isn’t as big a factor. It edges slightly in Carroll’s favor as he is the younger of the two. But I don’t that this stat alone is enough to warranty Carroll’s price being higher then fletcher’s. Due to the goals scored by both players.

  3. IF you look at the prices played for players during the Window when Carroll was sold, you could estimate his value then.
  - Phil Jones – 17mill
  - Ox lade – Around 12mill according to reports. But potentially up to 15mill with Add on’s.
  - Henderson – 16mill
  - Downing – 20mill
  - Smalling – 10mill
  - Ashley Young 17mill.

  Note. They are all young – mid 20′s english players. Same like Carroll, and all English and therefore have that extra 5 or so mill added to their real value.

  Judging by those figures ranging between 10-20mill, thats the price range Carroll should have really been at during that year as he was on form. Let’s say he was worth 15million. Exactly in the middle of the highest and lowest fee’s on that list.

  So when Carroll was on form, banging in goals he should have roughly been valued at around the 15mill Mark.

  So why after a season and a half at Liverpool, scoring just over half the amount of goals he scored for us in half a season of the PL, is he worth around the same price?. Surely after a long run of poor form, his value would logically have dropped.

  Unless, you mean to tell me that a player can go over a season playing poorly, and still be valued the same.

  Just because we sold him for 35million, does not mean getting him now for 14-15mill is a bargain. It’s not. It’s at most double what he should really be valued at, if you look at recent form.

• 41 ~Anita One Bites the Dust~ // Aug 23, 2012 at 2:10 AM

  “Scenario – 89th minute free kick in opposition half. You would want Carroll in your team for this moment alone”

  So you would be willing to pay 14-15mill for this 1 minute alone?. I’d much rather spend that money WISELY. And rely on Steven Taylor., who is arguably our best header of the ball at this moment. Most of his goals coming from corners.

• 42 ~Anita One Bites the Dust~ // Aug 23, 2012 at 2:15 AM

  Heck, If you wanted a forward who was good at headers, Fletcher would have been a better option

  12 goals. 7 of them headers. Last season.

• 43 ~Anita One Bites the Dust~ // Aug 23, 2012 at 2:16 AM

  Note. Thats 1 header more, then the total amount of goals Carroll scored in his whole liverpool Career.

• 44 ~Anita One Bites the Dust~ // Aug 23, 2012 at 2:19 AM

  Oh, also. Thats 12 goals in 26 games for wolves.
  As opposed to 6 goals in 42 for Carroll.

• 45 Rozzy // Aug 23, 2012 at 2:55 AM

  A better deal would be to take him on loan and pay around 16-18m if we get into the champions league next season if not Liverpool have an option weather to turn down our £12m bid or accept a higher offer from another club which could happen if he has a good season. Personally I wouldn’t bring him back. We have changed our style of play since he was hear and he is a poacher like Ba and Cisse. I would love to see a player like Remi who can run at defences like Ben Arfa but Carr knows best

• 46 NUFC141 // Aug 23, 2012 at 4:23 AM

  well i would welcome him back if he doesn’t cost us more than 10mil… although the dive he took last season against us was the crappest thing he ever done…

• 47 Brutooon // Aug 23, 2012 at 5:29 AM

  Andy Carroll is a BELOW AVERAGE player, the most i pay for him is 3 million and CUT his wages to 30k per week

  This guy is same like Emile Heskey and Peter Crouch and the ONLY reason you guys want him back is because he is a BORN GEORDIE

• 48 Brutooon // Aug 23, 2012 at 5:34 AM

  If MARCELINHO and BRAMBLE are born geordies i bet most of you won’t mind we sign them for 100 million each!

• 49 HullMag6 // Aug 23, 2012 at 6:26 AM

  I dont think we’ll get to know how much ma will pay, if he signs itll be undisclosded fee.

• 50 jesperfuglsang // Aug 23, 2012 at 6:30 AM

  Good morning everyone

  It is match day today at 6 pm; 7 pm here I think

  Is anyone going?

  For what its worth I think the silver supremo is going for a win, fielding a strong team.

  I am not changing much from my first forcast, but since Colo is not travelling I’ll throw Perch in there ;

  And with Ba out it is Cisse on top B-)

• 51 Ian Toon // Aug 23, 2012 at 6:46 AM

  Jesper- Gooday and what a wonderful day in prospect. Only issue is not a potential loan signing of AC with a view to a permanent signing next summer because that gives us control; but vultures gathering for Tiote , Cabaye and Cisse. With Michah Richards out for 10 weeks Man City might come in for Simpson (sic). Let’s we. Perform well in Greece with Adam Campbell making an appearance and doing well.
  Enjoy your day- HTL.

• 52 Transfer Sage // Aug 23, 2012 at 6:48 AM

  Carroll is worth next to nothing.

  Fletcher was 15 million as wombs didn’t want or need to sell. They wanted his goals to get them back to the prem as tv money almost doubles next season.

  Carroll is a player Liverpool don’t want and really want off the wage bill. He also will only leave for one club. That puts us in the driving seat so Liverpool can accept our bid or pay him 80k a week for the next few years.

  Also the option to loan him means we can see what he is like before paying a lot of money. We don’t play such a technical style as some think but we play a lot different to when he was last hear. So a loan would give us time to fit him in.

  But given the fees quoted we could probably pick up a better player for that fee, or even less probably.

  But if pardew wants him I’ll trust him to get the best out of him.

• 53 jesperfuglsang // Aug 23, 2012 at 6:58 AM

  Gooday to you to Ian…we have a week left of the transfer window; we will have to wait and see what happens mate

  Was it at Uefa.com we could see the match?

  Does anybody know if there will be other streams?

• 54 Ian Toon // Aug 23, 2012 at 7:26 AM

  Transfer Sage- I agree with you on the AC saga having said were in control. Where I would take you to task is on the point of technical style. If you take the 6-0 trouncing (opening home game) of Villa
  when AC was outstanding our style then and now is vastly different.
  AC was the outlet for pretty much all of our attacking intent. Our pass and move style will take time to evolve and it was painful to watch – at times on Saturday. But you don’t have a side with Cabaye , Ben Arfa and Anita and constantly play a long ball game. Cabaye has a greater range in his repertoire and will allow us to vary balls to Cisse and Ba.
  If the deal is right it will be AC adapting his game- his left foot power
  shooting has been absent at Liverpool. I have an open mind depending
  on who else we might bring in but were in control.

• 55 Redguy // Aug 23, 2012 at 7:26 AM

  There but for fortune guys! Ashley doesn’t want Carroll and he is just taking this opportunity to dissrespect the reds.That says more about him than it does Liverpool, and what goes around comes around. All we did was overpay for a player Ashley didnt want to sell, and he is having his fun and you guys are too! Shame on you! Dalglish and Commoli have gone, you are dissrespecting Rogers and Liverpool fans.

• 56 magpiemover // Aug 23, 2012 at 7:37 AM

  if we do sign carrol i hope its the last min on deadline day so liverpoo carnt get a relacement just do what they did to us , i may even put a sneaky tenner on them to go down this year pmsl

• 57 magpiemover // Aug 23, 2012 at 7:39 AM

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• 58 Ian Toon // Aug 23, 2012 at 7:50 AM

  Team tonight 4-5-1
  Harper
  Tavernier
  Williamson
  Perch
  Raylor
  Bigi
  Anita
  Obertan
  Gosling Marv
  Cisse
  Hope media reporting of Tiote out for a month with a knee injury
  are a Pardew ruse to rid us of transfer vultures.

• 59 eaststandgeordie1982 // Aug 23, 2012 at 7:51 AM

  See the mirror have adam campbell inside with rmthe headline the new micheal owen i hate when players get labled the new so and so, hes himself hes the one and only adam campbell and hes ours. I hope he gets a few chances this season then he will get more playing time next season the future is bright the future is his orange hair

• 60 jesperfuglsang // Aug 23, 2012 at 7:51 AM

  Waky Waky Magpie fans it is bright and early the sun is shining

  This is an odd to you Ibiza my good friend:

  ” You are the sunshine of my life
  That’s why I’ll always be around,
  You are the apple of my eye,
  Forever you’ll stay in my heart”

  Now get up people lol

• 61 woodsee // Aug 23, 2012 at 8:04 AM

  Morning lads,off to Ibiza tomorrow,andLiverpool are in the shit,just love it

• 62 hotdog // Aug 23, 2012 at 8:10 AM

  Anita one- I would like carroll back at no more than 10 mill but you make some good points on his valuation. The problem is liverpool know Andy wants to play and is not another xisco who couldn’t careless. He would need to take a massive drop in wages if he wants a move to us. Let’s see.

• 63 hotdog // Aug 23, 2012 at 8:14 AM

  Woodsee- I got back from Spain last week and it’s crazy hot mate. Apparently Newcastle trained last night at 8 o’clock in temps of 34*c. I’d struggle a brisk walk in that

• 64 tony green // Aug 23, 2012 at 8:18 AM

  Liverpool are completely fixated about the £35 million they paid for AC

  They seem to have forgotten that that was funded out of the megabucks (£50 million according to many) they got for Torres in 24 hours of madness …

  So they basically blew their Torres windfall by massively overpaying for Carroll….

  Wake up and smell the coffee, scousers, …and face it….that money’s gone …

• 65 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 23, 2012 at 8:21 AM

  I heard Stevie…..it’s like my batman signal for the blog…how are we one and all?

  Who’s this Andy Carroll lad? Any good? Can’t say I’ve heard much about the kid

• 66 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 23, 2012 at 8:26 AM

  Woodsee…Where in Ibiza are you going? Watch out, I hear there are some right *ssh*l*s out there

• 67 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 23, 2012 at 8:34 AM

  Is it something I said? Do I smell? *Sniff sniff* Ahhh, that answers that then.

• 68 Rotonda heights // Aug 23, 2012 at 8:34 AM

  Anita @ 35.

  Thank god people are opening their eyes to this.

  Local hero is a bit strong Ed. He had 1 good season.

• 69 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 23, 2012 at 8:36 AM

  Rotonda…..Not really. Whether it was reasonable at the time is debatable, but he was a local hero up until he was sold. Probably due to the fact we thought we had the next Shearer. 12 months of under performing in under performing Liverpool team doesn’t change that. Not saying he should or shouldn’t come back, but to say he wasn’t seen as the next great player by most up until he left is not correct imo.

• 70 Transfer Sage // Aug 23, 2012 at 8:37 AM

  Ian

  I said our style was different to when he was hear.

  I am just saying we are not as technically advance as some people here claim. We still played a good few long balls in the spurs game.

  There is nothing wrong with a long ball or cross into the box but it should mainly be used when it has a higher percentage of paying of compared to a short pass, which is rare but better in some situations

• 71 Magpie from Lithuania // Aug 23, 2012 at 8:43 AM

  We should give Rogers Xisco and take Carroll for 12M

• 72 drongo // Aug 23, 2012 at 8:45 AM

  I remember when AC was at our place he was pretty good with the ball at his feet too, could hold it up and bring other players into the game. In those days it was mostly him laying off to Nolan, but imagine him doing that to Cabaye!
  I think it would give us an extra dimension to be honest – he has gone backwards at Liverpool too, looks slower and fatter.
  Ba and Cisse would still be my 1st choice, but, they are not both going to be fit all season, plus they have the ACN. All last year when we needed to close a game down or try something different we brought big Shola off the bench, I would see AC having this role – and I for one would rather have him doing it than Shola bless him.

  As to whether its 12m well spent, well, yes, because thats still £23m for nothing.

• 73 Lew Davies // Aug 23, 2012 at 8:47 AM

  Carroll is turning into the new xisco at ‘fools.
  Highly over payed and unwanted.
  you’ve gotta laugh really.
  I think Ashley is just playing a game with ‘fools, but when push comes to shove has no intention of spunking that ammount of money out for Carroll.
  Why would he when there is cheaper and better options available????
  Howay the Lads for tonight.

• 74 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 23, 2012 at 8:49 AM

  Drongo…..Whilst I really wouldn’t mind having AC back, I don’t think you can just say it’s £12m well spent, because it’s still £23m profit. In theory it is, but in reality, could we get a similar striker for less than £12m?

  Once again, personally, I would be happy to see him back, it’s clearly where he’s happy and where he performs best. He can fit in to what we’re doing and also give us another option.

  People say it was due to him that we played a certain style. Well, that could also be said about the players feeding him. Nolan, Barton, etc, all direct type of players. The whole team has been upgraded, no reason to think it would only work one way.

  Anyway, moving on…..First European game tonight in what feels forever!!!! Howay The Lads!!!!

• 75 jesperfuglsang // Aug 23, 2012 at 8:51 AM

  “Love has joined us,
  Love has joined us,
  Let’s think sweet love
  You are the sunshine of my life”

  And with a song I am back lol…now are we still on that Andy falla?

  Shouldn’t we just sy thank you and move on? …there most be another team we could take a crack at, like them Spurs or something lol

• 76 Ian Toon // Aug 23, 2012 at 8:52 AM

  Ibiza- good morning . Hope your still around and have not succumbed to Jesper’s charms . You must be in the sort of heat being experienced by the Lads in Athens.

• 77 jesperfuglsang // Aug 23, 2012 at 8:52 AM

  TESTING TESTING 1, 2, 3

• 78 jesperfuglsang // Aug 23, 2012 at 8:55 AM

  That’s weird…most of my posts this morning are not going through Ed’s censurship Have I been a naughty boy this morning? lol

• 79 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 23, 2012 at 8:57 AM

  Ian….I succumbed to Jesper’s charms long ago

  It’s pretty hot, I must say. But as of tomorrow i’m back in my air conditioned house and office…hurrah!

  Jesper…Seems Ed hates Stevie Wonder. You heard it here first people, Ed has no love for the Stevie

• 80 DEAN // Aug 23, 2012 at 9:01 AM

  we still need a striker and a quality defender, ac mybe the answer but for no more than 15 million , thats still a good profit , as for a defender the french guy ,or douglas would fit in well

• 81 jesperfuglsang // Aug 23, 2012 at 9:01 AM

  Ibiza…I have Ed down as a Lionel Richie kind of guy lol

  …back when we were having our Lionel Richie moments hehe…they were going through like a charm…

  Ed’s a Lionel Richie man, you heard it here boys and girls!

• 82 Ian Toon // Aug 23, 2012 at 9:06 AM

  Ibiza- your right( aren ‘t you always- yawn) about AC being seen as the next local hero when he left and many are re writing history. But time and football moves on and were not just a one dimensional side
  anymore. AC would be an option but not an integral part of us moving forward- were the only game in town for the scousers. Don’t you just love it!

• 83 jesperfuglsang // Aug 23, 2012 at 9:06 AM

  Rumor’s this morning in DK are sending Rafael VdV to HSV…probably at an overprice – gotta admire Levy, he knows how to rob people at daylight lol

• 84 jesperfuglsang // Aug 23, 2012 at 9:10 AM

  Have we moved on to a new thread or something?…or are you all feeling the wrath of Ed’s censurship?

  Quickly sing a Lionel Richie song lol

• 85 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 23, 2012 at 9:13 AM

  Next thread Jesper and Ian

• 86 Owldman // Aug 23, 2012 at 9:20 AM

  Redman time was Toon supporters & Liverpool supprters had great respect for each other,sadly no more mainly because Liverpool have lost the respect of nearly every football club in the land.Your transfer dealings have angered supports of every player you have tapped up,the latest being Clint Dempsey,the American owners actually went to the extent of stating in the US press two months ago that they had signed him just as Phil Thompson was telling everyone that Jose Enrique had agreed to join Liverpool even though he was contracted to Newcastle,so dont be surprised if no one shows Liverpool any respect anymore

• 87 Rotonda heights // Aug 23, 2012 at 9:32 AM

  drongo

  If he couldn’t fit in at liverpool and their passing style with Gerrard etc what makes you think he would be any better with us. Cisse and ba make fantastic and intelligent runs on to Cabs and Benny’s passes, Carroll doesn’t have that.

• 88 JARRAMAG // Aug 23, 2012 at 10:38 AM

  Andy Carroll is a class player who will only get better,but sadly not at Liverpool and for some posters who say we dont need him or he is not good enough obviously know very little about football.We have only 2 top strikers plus the ever injured Shola when we really need 4.We need a cb and full back to have a small but quality squad.

  In my humble opinion we missed out on CL qual last year because we never signed the cb we needed and we still have not .Are we really going to make the same mistakes again?,it looks like it.

  If we sustain any injury to our cb or strikers this year we will struggle.

• 89 Lee Dodd // Aug 23, 2012 at 11:17 AM

  This Carroll Saga is becoming Old hat!!!! He nt be coming back end of … the figres wont stack up and mike ashley wont pay the cash. can see brendon rogers getting the boot by christmas anyway … We need debouchey and a striker like cisse for about €8 million and we will be set. if not i think in the defence we have we will be ok. colo- taylor- perch- williamson santon simpson . even shane ferguson. also anita can play in defence so is our defence that bad ??? Midfield if we can keep cabaye and tiote we will be fine . I DO think a striker is needed !!!!!