No Signs Of Any New Newcastle Signings


We see that Martin O’Neill is starting to spend the cash at Sunderland,  with two new signings in Wolves’ Steven Fletcher and Manchester City’s Adam Johnson for what are said to be fees of £15M and £10M – and they certainly didn’t come as bargain buys.

Mathieu Debuchy – could still arrive on Tyneside?

We didn’t expect Newcastle to go after Adam Johnson, who has been a Newcastle fan all his life in spite of being born in Sunderland, and there’s at least a couple of reasons why we think Newcastle were not interested.

£10M is a lot of money for Newcastle to spend these days, and Johnson wouldn’t have been a bargain buy at all, and we already have lots of wingers at the club like Jonas, Ben Arfa, Sammy Ameobi, Gabby Obertan, Sylvain Marveaux and Romain Amalfitano.

And who would have thought that Steven Fletcher would go for between £12M and £15M according to reports – is he really worth that much – we don’t think he’s worth half of that.

Newcastle are still interested in the Brazilian Douglas of FC Twente, but there seem to be endless frustrations for Newcastle with the Telegraaf newspaper in Holland reporting that two of his agents and the player himself are due cuts of the transfer fee, which means only qbout60% if the fee with go to his club FC Twente, so that;’s one reason they are trying to drive up the price.

But if the news is to be believed the fee is at or over £4M, and that’s a lot to pay for a player who would be a free agent next summer.

Of course the other way to look at it is that if Fulham come in with a decent offer this summer, he will not be available next summer because he will be a Newcastle player.

We really don’t know if Newcastle consider center-back a priority any more with James Perch looking good in central defense, and youngster Curtis Good likely to come through this season.

And the fact that FC Twente have just signed Manchester City’s Dedryck Boyata,on a season long loan deal, may suggest they are ready to let Douglas go.

We still think there’s a chance that Newcastle will go in one more time for Mathieu Debuchy of Lille, but certainly the dealings for Douglas and Debuchy have been like soap operas this summer.

We really don’t know if Newcastle will bring in any players before next Saturday, but our guess is that Debuchy will be a Newcastle player come September, especially if Lille do not qualify for the European Champions League group stages.

And if we do manage to sign him we hope Newcastle keep Danny Simpson on the books,  and get him to sign a new deal and stay on Tyneside.

If Debuchy comes Danny may not be a starter any longer, but he’s a more than decent player and has been loyal to Newcastle over the last three seasons,  and can still do a job for the club.

And we suppose that Newcastle could still try to bring in Andy Carroll from Liverpool late in the transfer window,  but that’s starting to look like an expensive option.

What do you think?

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50 comments so far

  • Ben3arfa

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #1

    hopeless window

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  • ToonDownSouth

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #2

    Is this literally just to wind people up and make them comment?

    TorqToon

    Guillem Balague on twitter – he’s pretty much the best source there is for La Liga news.

    “Guillem Balague ?@GuillemBalague

    The thing that gave the last twist to the Sahin saga. After Madrid and Arsenal agreed a 2m loan deal, Liverpool offered 5m (no option 2 buy) “

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  • clarc21

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #3

    What timing, honoured to have the first comment. Hope they sign Debuchy and keep Simpson. We need good cover especially for Europe.

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  • Beattie25

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:06 AM

    Comment #4

    Dont understand how you can say Danny Simpson has been loyal?!

    Anyway it’s unnerving the lack of transfer activity.

    Ashley showing his true colours?

    Tune it at 11 pm next Friday to find out who mike Ashley really is.

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  • jesperfuglsang

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #5

    Is seems the problem with Simmo is the samw with Guthrie; he wants to be a starter and he wants to be paid as much as any starter.

    If we sign Debuchy neither will happen 🙂 we mightas well accept that.

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  • WWYCD

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:10 AM

    Comment #6

    We need 3 new first teamers and it looks like we are getting 0….good times

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  • Colo2

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #7

    I think the powers that be are up to something…player/s will come in

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  • davybtoon

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:13 AM

    Comment #8

    How can say anything bad about transfer no one knows what work is goin on to get players in so stop moaning

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  • ToonDownSouth

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #9

    Bloody hell. You lot are a bunch of wet fecking flannels aren’t you.

    Why do we need 3 new first teamers? Which three positions do we need to replace? Or who is going to be happy to come and warm our bench?

    Which striker will be happy to play second fiddle to Ba AND Cisse? Or a CB happy to wait for Colo or Taylor to get injured?

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  • northernirishtoon

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #10

    I can see us springing a few surprises in the transfer window yet. Pards + co keeping cards way too close to their chest which usually means something’s gonna happen

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  • ToonDownSouth

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #11

    Bloody hell. You lot are a bunch of wet flannels aren’t you.

    Why do we need 3 new first teamers? Which three positions do we need to replace? Or who is going to be happy to come and warm our bench?

    Which striker will be happy to play second fiddle to Ba AND Cisse? Or a CB happy to wait for Colo or Taylor to get injured?

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  • north_country_boy

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:15 AM

    Comment #12

    I’ve heard we might be back in for Gameiro…him, Debuchy and Douglas by Friday and we’ll be set (and they’d cost less than Fletcher and Johnson)

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  • fog on the tyne

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #13

    Lad in the bar last night was saying rodgers nutted carrol at that they had to be pulled apart, hence why carrol was missing from a “weakened” team on thursday. As i say i heard this in the pub so not sure if its true. Could force liverpools hand a wee bit more tho.

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  • lee1892

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #14

    No news is good news in my eyes. I think its more likely that stuff is gettin done since we do things on the quiet. Cant help thinking that MA is waiting to see if we qualify for the EL before a busy final day as that would be will be another 5m at least in the pot. MA must have taken some money back off that loan he gave the club. Tv money, prize money and everything else equated to 70+m last season and we’ve spent next to nothing really. Fair enough he if he but we should be told.

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  • Beattie25

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:16 AM

    Comment #15

    Finished 5th, a whips away from 3rd, and we have spent the least amount in the division.

    Infact most of the championship have spent more.

    Still time left but with the tv money, financial reward for finishing 5th, cash made through ticket sales and merchandise you would think we could afford more than 4.6 million.

    This isn’t a negative comment just an honest view of things and I’m sure we will spend more.

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  • ToonDownSouth

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:17 AM

    Comment #16

    And Beattie, stop being so bloody dramatic all the time.

    Everyone at the start of the window accepted we’d have to sell before we could buy.

    We haven’t sold anyone.

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  • Spreadthetoon

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #17

    Defo need 3 new senior signings. Most frustrating window ……..but this is Mike Ashely were talkin’ about……cannot see the ambition for him to do more…its frustartin and disappointing….just hope we are pleasantly surprised…….would be pleased with Debuchy, Douglas and Remy

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  • Beattie25

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #18

    TDS

    ”Everyone at the start of the window accepted we’d have to sell before we could buy.”

    When did we have that conversation?

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  • ochytoon

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #19

    TDS
    It’s called rotation.

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  • Novocastrian66

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:20 AM

    Comment #20

    I’m totally underwelmed by Newcastle’s summer transfer business. We need a full back, centre half and a striker. We have all summer and we’ve ended up with non of these positions filled. We’re considerably weaker upfront than last season. The thought of relying on Shola fills me with dread.
    Hopefully we will pull something out of the bag but I’m not hopeful.

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  • WWYCD

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #21

    TDS
    LB we have 1 and he is still learning, CB we have 1 great CB, 1 with a long history of injury problems and 2 who are average and striker we have 2 and a impact sub so Id say we need a youngster to develop unless Campbell is suddenly the new hope?

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  • WWYCD

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #22

    TDS
    Why did we have to sell before we can buy?

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  • Beattie25

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #23

    We’ve had more than all summer.

    We knew Simmo wouldn’t sign a contract a long time ago and haven’t had a reliable 4th CB since Sol Campbell left last year.

    I am still optimistic.

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  • ToonDownSouth

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #24

    Beattie

    So 3 months ago, you didn’t expect us to lose any of our big names? All the talk was ‘If we can take £30m from the sales of Tiote & Ba, and reinvest well, we’ll be on our way’.

    At the end of the day, the money has to come from somewhere. Last year we weren’t even running at a profit – excluding Carroll’s sale – and the club’s over £100m in debt.

    I don’t understand why anyone expects us to “push on” – we targeted the top 10 and finished 5th. We’re well ahead of schedule and hence they clearly feel there’s no need for much investment.

    We’re clearly willing to invest a few million more – else we wouldn’t be bidding for Carroll & Debuchy. But Pardew said he’d rather stick to his top targets than drop down the list, and that’s his decision. If it pays off, everyone will be over the moon. If it doesn’t, we’ll just deal with it.

    We have a squad good enough to do just as well as last year – all our players have had their obligatory year to ‘settle in’, and they’re all reaching their peak years. I’d happily bet on us getting a higher point total than last season.

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  • Spreadthetoon

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #25

    Reckon young Campbell will be billed as the new “AC”…you know like a new signing on the cheap, coz’ he’s already on our books! Really beginning to think that MA is a cheap tw@t….he’s probably spent more money on his stake in Rangers than his own club!

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  • ganiyu

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:25 AM

    Comment #26

    Today is a match day;we can postpone all this arguements and talk about positive topics.

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  • Shane

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #27

    People are obsessed with spending money. We need a new defender that is all. Losing Ba et Cisse to ACoN is not a problem… HBA and Obertan can play up top and form a devastating French striking partnership. Seriously, they can actually do that. I believe this.

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  • Rotonda heights

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #28

    Don’t worry Ed. Fresh from that well known bastion of the truth … the Newcastle rumours page

    Newcastle update:
    Newcastle are expected to make a couple of late signings in the next week

    Newcastle are waiting to see if lille progress through to the champions league before making a final offer for matt debuchy, if lille miss a out they will have to sell to raise funds personal terms were all but agreed the only issue will be the injury he picked up in lilles first game which newcastle are currently monitoring, expect a fee of around 6.5 million + addons

    If newcastle fail to sign debuchy they will instead turn to juventus for uruguyan full back martin caceres, the former barcalona defender was a star player in juve’s unbeaten season but wouldnt come cheap, newcastle see him as a versatile fullback and centreback making him a major target as they look for strenght and depth altough a fee upwards of 9 million would make a move unlikely

    Newcastles hunt for an striker likes set to come to a conclusion this discussions with psg for former target kevin gameiro are advanced ahead of a potential 8 million cut price deal, gamiero has struggled to hold down a regular place as psg continue with there big spending and the arrival of ibrahimovic spells the end of his time there, expect a deal by mid week with the player signing a 5 year deal

    Newcastle have looked at other strikers incase the deal breaks down with remy, borreilo and helmes being looked at as alternatives

    Newcastle are hoping to get one more body in midfeild before friday the club are weighing up moves for both expereinced and young players on loan deals some of the names mentioned are jenas, adam, wakaso, cognet and sissoko but id expect the unexpected as ever with newcastle.

    One final thing to clear newcastle should hold on to most of their players this summer the only question is tiote although the clubs valuation of 25 million is unlikely to be met, but anita is a ready made replacement if anything happens this week, cabaye, ba and cisse wont be leaving no offers have been made and no replacements signed so fees would have to reduculas for them to leave.
    The only player we may lose is danny simpson now he is the last year of his deal the chances are that there will be at least team interested in getting on the cheap for a couple of million

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  • ToonDownSouth

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #29

    OK. When someone posts a comment like that, it’s time for me to leave.

    It’s match day, and I’m looking forward to it.

    Try not to all get your knickers in a twist, just because Ed wrote an antagonistic article to get some hits.

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  • NEWEXPATMAGPIE

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #30

    We,ve brought in Anita! And there nothing to suggest that the club is,nt busy looking further!

    The Mackems have just spent 25Mil on Johnson and Fletcher! Who cares?

    Bit peeved about Johnson but heh am not going to start playing the Doom Merchant on here just yet! Afer all there are still 2 weeks to go in the window.

    Typically the totally uncool among you on here are all starting to reach for the Panic Button. Just calm down all of you!

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  • bollance

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #31

    People on here were relax until scum bought Johnson and fletcher. Those two are nowhere near for example Ba and hba!!

    I have complete trust that we have a strategy and will possibly make the mega signing could be Andy Carrol early next week or deadline day.

    Think how many times sports direct arena will be said on skysports news if we make the mega signing on deadline day!

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  • alkinou

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #32

    The most important thing this window was to keep all of our key players and we’ve done that so far. If I was told at the beginning of the transfer window that we would keep Cabaye, Tiote, Ba, Cisse, Colo, … I would have taken it. We managed 5th place last year with this squad so let’s try it again!

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  • ochytoon

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #33

    Shane
    Then I’m glad you don’t pick the team.

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  • BelfastMagpie87

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #34

    Think the chance’s of us getting 3 players in my next Friday nyt is very slim.

    I think it’ll be the exact same as last year,a couple of late bids for Carroll & Debuchy that wont be accepted.

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  • bollance

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:32 AM

    Comment #35

    Graham Carr said early on that we would be blown away by who we are interested in. So far I am yet to be blown away. I am impressed and know the player will probably all grown into prem starters but believe we have something up the sleave! Wait and see

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  • Toon1978

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #36

    I wouldn’t say this is exactly a bad window. We have kept our best players up to now and we have brought in a few young lads that will be pushing for first team Football. We also have young Campbell pushing hard now, this kid is going to be great.We have signed Anita who has shown what he can do over the last 2 games. It’s not as bad as some of you make it out to be. Yes, we do need a striker as we only have 3 established players in that position but maybe we are hoping Campbell can become one of the 4, who knows. We also need a CB but even if these players do not come in we are still in a better position then many other clubs. SAFC have been ripped to bits with Fletcher, Wolves have made mugs of a desperate club. A.Johnson however is a very very good signing but i would rather have HBA,MARVEAUX,JONAS,SAMMY then anything them lot down the road have for them positions.

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  • Beattie25

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #37

    TDS

    ”So 3 months ago, you didn’t expect us to lose any of our big names? All the talk was ‘If we can take £30m from the sales of Tiote & Ba, and reinvest well, we’ll be on our way’.”

    I have never said once that would be acceptable and the odd person may have said it but I always questioned why we would need to sell in order to spend £20!

    We don’t need to and never have needed to sell to spend money. We are not auto traders we are a piggin football club with other massive forms of revenue. We are in the premiership not the second division of Scottish football. We finished 5th bit 15th. We are in Europe and sell more replica shirts per capita than any other club. We do not need to sell to invest.

    I for one am not asking for 30 million to be spent on Carroll, Remy, Sakho etc…

    I am asking for a small investment to improve the team and ensure every eventuality is considered before playing 50-60 games. It might not guarantee success but it will give us the best opportunity to ensure it.

    I think you are trying to be overly optimistic and it’s clouding your judgment. In optimistic we will sign players but am being a realist and saying that currently its farcical.

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  • ochytoon

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #38

    We won’t manage fifth place again this season if we don’t sign at least two more players.

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  • NEWEXPATMAGPIE

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #39

    @37:
    Sorry Mate but that statement is pure Bollocks!

    I mean! uum, i disagree!

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  • ash1001

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #40

    yeh, Sunderland seem to be splashing the cash, sort of leaving us behind a little, 6 days left to see what the final picture is, but we seem to be arguing over small amount of money re Debuchy. We are still ahead of the game as far as spending is concerned.
    http://www.transferleague.co.uk/ about £41 million over 5 years.
    Not really an Ashley knocker, but come on MA give us the team and backup as fans of NUFC we deserve, progress has been made but we need additions and need them now, the Europa Cup match sort of highlighted that.
    We are not creating chances other than from set pieces, just a personal opinion, so go easy on me.

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