Pardew Surprised Ben Arfa Took The Penalty Last Week


Alan Pardew has admitted he was very surprised when Ben Arfa took the penalty last Saturday against Tottenham as Demba Ba is now the official penalty taker for Newcastle, but we wonder if the Frenchman will take the penalties he earns for Newcastle this season?

The answer to that could well be yes.

Ben Arfa easily beats Freidel from the penalty spot last Saturday

The Newcastle manager has talked in the local press today about his two top Senegal strikers, and we are hoping they can notch some goals this afternoon in London:

“They love to score goals and we will be looking for that again.” “We changed our system against Spurs, but we kept both strikers on.”  “We asked him to do a job on the left-hand side in the second half.”

“I am not going to disguise the fact that, while he was brilliant in the second half of last season, he did not contribute with the goals he would have liked.”  “He could not have worked any harder, but sometimes it just does not go your way.”

“He had to look after Walker and sometimes when you keep your strikers on they come up with a bit of magic.”  “It was a great goal.”  “I was very surprised, actually, that Ba did not take the penalty last week.”

It’s interesting that Alan was as surprised as the rest of us when Hatem Ben Arfa took the penalty last week against Tottenham, and since he scored there was no problem, but there would have been if he had missed – in fact it would have been a huge talking point after the game.

And what are the chances he will take one again if he is the one fouled for the penalty – we think the chances are high of that happening  – and as long as Newcastle score, we don’t care who takes the penalties for Newcastle.

And with Ramadan now over, both Papiss  Cisse and Demba  Ba will be eating and drinking again in daylight hours, and if there was any weakness due to the fasting during Ramadan, that should be over now, and perhaps they can celebrate that with some goals at Stamford Bridge this afternoon?

Demba Ba admitted that the fasting can have a negative effect on his form, as it seemed to have last year at this time:

 “Sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn’t.”   “Now I am back to eating lots and drinking lots again.”

We’re looking for another good display from the lads this afternoon in London, and anything but a defeat will bring a good close to the first week of the season for Newcastle.

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251 comments so far

  • Spuggy

    Aug 25, 2012 at 10:58 AM

    Comment #1

    We need to get the ball to HBA in the box as much as possible, as he’s likely to score, assist or draw a pelanty (spot the deliberate mistake)

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  • Grafton83

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:00 AM

    Comment #2

    It’s not really on to take a penalty without getting Dembas ok first. I’m pleased he scored and he did earn that pen himself but I still think he’s in the wrong.

    This is part of his personality though and it comes with the player so I think the team will just have to tolerate it. My only concern is if today he takes someone elses penalty and gets away with it will he also start pushing the boundaries with other things.

    Probably worrying too much really. I just think if he did that to someone less chilled out that Demba would they accept it or would we see them clash.

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  • carrollsinger

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:04 AM

    Comment #3

    Hba Is quality his pen was class he ooooooozes class

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  • markmac

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:05 AM

    Comment #4

    Repost from earlier article regards the senegal v ivory coast play off – Yeh and ivory coast are fave’s for the whole tournament so n paper shall we say. they should win and therefore we only lose tiote, and ”in theory” anita or maybe even bigi step up to replace him, and from what ive seen so far both are looking capable!

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  • Transfer Sage

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:07 AM

    Comment #5

    I think Ben arfa runnin at Luiz and ivanovich could cause problems for them. They tend to be a bit rash in their challenges.

    I expect goals both ways today.

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  • Fostino

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:08 AM

    Comment #6

    two good signings this week…..adam johnson to sunderland is a good signing (fletcher is a pure rip off mind you) ……..and sahin on loan to liverpool (a bit ironic that this is a player who real madrid spent 20 plus million on a year ago….remind you of anyone)

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  • Transfer Sage

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:10 AM

    Comment #7

    Fostino

    Fletcher and sahin are good signings but the fees are way over the top.

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  • Spreadthetoon

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #8

    Would quite like Adam Campbell to get a taste of Premiership football, perhaps bring on him an Shola towards the end of the match if were riding the storm out well!

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  • dmac

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #9

    Demba Ba takes a woeful penalty there ive said it haha. I for one would have let Hba take it everyday. Id much rather our penaltys were taken by Cabaye as he rarely missed at Lille.

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  • MUTINYbyLEMONS

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #10

    PELANTY

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  • Cool Hand Luke

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #11

    Transfer Sage, spot on.

    We need to really put them on the back foot, also HBA, good as he is would have a tougher time getting the better of Cole than he would running amok in the middle of the park.

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  • MUTINYbyLEMONS

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #12

    I have spotted thy mistake

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  • MagpiesFlyHigh

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #13

    Les – previous thread

    Leon Best is no use to anybody with the ACL injury us or Bburn. Nor did he play after Cisse arrived. The Ameobis are decent cover for Cisse and Ba plus Amal, young AC, an invigorated Obertan.
    A 3rd choice CF would be nice but we are not weaker without one – we are just no stronger.
    ASme with the defence… we are not weaker without a signing, in fact as Perch came on so well we are a bit stronger.
    I do agree with you that we do not have any in depth ‘insurance cover’ against injuries and ACON but the reality is that our first 11 are better than this time last year.

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  • MUTINYbyLEMONS

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #14

    Maybe HBA should play on the left so he is against Ivanovic. Or is it possible that their new RB Apictllze something will play? He looks quality.

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  • Fostino

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #15

    sage

    fletcher is way over the top….mind you i tuaght ashley young to villa was way over the top for 12m but o neill got that right. so i think the adam johnson deal is good business….come to think of it he probably got the milner deal right too

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #16

    I’m still annoyed that the game isn’t at 3pm and it’s on ESPN rather than Sky Sports. It’s not worth the money to me to get both, so I’d rather follow the footie at 3pm on a Sat thank you very much.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #17

    Fostino

    Fletcher is over priced but if he is the best player they could get they may have had to pay over the odds or get a cheaper player who isn’t up to standard.

    If he gets them into top half and stays for 5/6 years it could be money well spent. Although in glad we didn’t pay that.

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  • MUTINYbyLEMONS

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:20 AM

    Comment #18

    ToonDarfSarf

    You can get ESPN free for 3 months. That’s what I have done so I have both ESPN and SkySports. It is not an annual subscription so you can cancel anytime with a 31 days notice.

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  • MUTINYbyLEMONS

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #19

    I am not sure if that deal has expired or not

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #20

    Regarding players…I’d rather play Amoeba than Best, Amoeba 2 than Loverman, Anita (by miles!) than Guthrie, so I’m not worried. If we’ve got a strikeforce of Cisse, Ba, Amoeba, Amoeba 2, and Campbell, plus Ben Arfa who plays as a forward, what’s the problem here? Maybe we’ll sign another striker, or maybe we’ll wait until January when we know what’s happening in the ACON.

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  • pawl250

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #21

    Fostino

    How much did he pay for Reo Corker though? And Curtis Davies

    ONeil transfer record was very shoddy at Villa until the last 2 seasons when he adde Downing Young Dunne Milner too his squad. He even let Gary Cahill go for a measly 2m or something small

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #22

    MUTINY, I might look into that, is it free for 3 months then? Doesn’t change the situation for the rest of the season sadly…bloody annoying.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #23

    Toondarnsarf

    I’m still not sure why in USA and Australia I have friends who say that they can watch all prem league games no matter when they start.

    Why don’t sky stick all 3pm games on the red button. Have a choice like they do for the champs league.

    Would make much more sense. Surely the money they would make in advertising and sponsorship would make up for what it would cost.

    It’s not like any other channel has them games so dont see why it can’t happen.

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  • MUTINYbyLEMONS

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #24

    Yeah free for 3 months. Better than nothing.

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  • dmac

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #25

    Tds is your i button broken ? 😛

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  • yorkshireToon

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:25 AM

    Comment #26

    PPI’s – Pardew push injuries, love it!

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  • pawl250

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #27

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1301712/Buy-buy-Martin-How-ONeill-spent-120million-years-Aston-Villa.html

    This is his full record he seemed to buy a couple of decent players then flops and eventually had a team.

    He spent over 120m in doing so which I think would not happen at Sunderland. He has already spent 25m And apparently looking at Dawson who is 9m! Ok good players but paying way over the odds for 3 players!! We could have bought our entire team nearly!!

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  • Transfer Sage

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #28

    Pawl

    Oneils problem is he seems to only, well mainly, buy British based players. This means you pay a lot more than you would if buying abroad.

    This to me shows he doesn’t have a scouting network to speak of.

    Or

    He cannot spot potential in a player just recognise already proven ability.

    Either way it means he may build a decent team but he needs to be at a club where they have the money to spend.

    And even then he will never achieve top 4 as he won’t be able to get the quality needed for that buying from within Britain as the top level players are at top clubs already.

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  • Belly

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #29

    I fancy Cabaye to have a good game today. He’ll show his old team mate Hazard how it’s done in the prem.

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  • NorthernTiger74

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #30

    Taken from CFCnet:

    ‘On Saturday, the Chelsea wheels keep turning as we host Newcastle United in the league, six days before we travel to Monaco to face Atletico Madrid in the UEFA Super Cup. The Blues are coming off two victories against Wigan and Reading and will be looking to add a third consecutive win against a team that beat them at Stamford Bridge last May.

    We all recall the two wonder-strikes by Papiss Cisse that condemned us to defeat, and we will look to not let that happen again, especially since reinforcements are on the way.

    It was announced today that Cesar Azpilicueta, the Spanish right back, has joined the club for £7 million, filling the hole left by the departed Jose Bosingwa, and news reports have us sealing up a £9 million deal for our tormentor from the first match, Victor Moses.

    Newcastle comes in after a hard-fought 2-1 victory over Tottenham Hotspur, though manager Alan Pardew will most likely be condemned to the stands after pushing the linesman in a moment of madness. Newcastle also come to the Bridge with largely the same squad they had last season, but with the addition of midfielder Vurnon Anita off the bench. Their starting 11 is essentially the same.

    This is a winnable game, but it’s also our sternest test outside the Community Shield. Newcastle are a side that will expect to once again challenge for the top 4 and will see this as a chance to take 3 early points, knowing full-well that they did so last year.

    Papiss Cisse and Demba Ba are clearly a problem area for our back line.
    Cisse and Ba are clearly the two danger men for Newcastle United and will be a slight worry for the pairing of David Luiz and Gary Cahill. John Terry is set to miss out with a slight injury.

    The concern for the back line is the threat of both Ba and Cisse in the air, given how easy Pavel Pogrebnyak ghosted past Cahill for the first goal for Reading, and their skillfulness on the ball, as shown by the wonder goals from Cisse last year.

    These two as a partnership are a danger, and Pardew has seemed to work out how to get them both in good positions. Against Tottenham, both provided intermittent threats, but their lack of overall service has to be credited to the way that Tottenham’s midfield pressed and starved them. The goals came after they started to lose energy.

    Hatem Ben Arfa is the second danger man and the forward creator.
    If Hatem Ben Arfa would have had a better overall attitude, work ethic, and not so many niggling injuries, Ben Arfa would have been a fixture in the France side and a much bigger club that Newcastle now. Back in his younger days at Lyon, Ben Arfa was considered the heir to Zinedine Zidane’s number 10 role and a better overall prospect than Marseille’s number 10 offering, Samir Nasri.

    However, falling out’s with managers and niggling injuries gave him a reputation as a problem, and his options for playing at big clubs became limited. However, he’s still just 25, and his talent is still there, even if the broken leg has robbed him of pace. He will start on the right hand side, but with Jonas balancing on the left, he will have the freedom to drift into the center.

    His ability to create alongside Cisse and Ba’s ability to alternate playing target striker or second striker makes the three players a lethal combination and leads to them threatening a backline.

    Chelsea must be acutely aware of this for reasons that will be stated at number 5.

    Jonas is the unsung hero of the attacking players.
    When you think of the Newcastle side, Jonas is one of the last players that pops into your head, but he’s one of the most important. It’s his versatility at being able to play both centrally and in wide areas that allow the front three of Ba, Cisse, and Ben Arfa to operate. Jonas abilities permit the team to either attack using 4-4-2, 4-3-2-1, and the ability to play in a 4-4-2 diamond, depending on the control of the midfield. That tactical flexibility means that Pardew can change systems without making changes, and it also means that they players can shift them on their own.

    Our formation’s midfield setup will be tested, first with Cheick Tiote and Yohan Cabaye.
    If Jonas is the unsung hero that allows the flexibility of Newcastle, it’s Tiote and Cabaye that provide the engine room behind it and the ability to distribute the ball. Tiote has developed into one of the best holding midfielders in the Premier League and gives them steel in the middle to break up attacks.

    Cabaye gives Tiote a partner with a bit more flair to his game and the ability to pick out a pass.

    It will challenge the center midfield of Frank Lampard and John Mikel Obi because ball retention has been something that they’ve struggled with as of late.

    Which leads us to the last and final point: Chelsea must tighten up the midfield and the defense, or Newcastle might run roughshod through us.
    For all the money spent on attacking players, our biggest concern this season will be adapting to the 4-2-3-1 of Roberto Di Matteo while also not conceding goals.

    Our biggest problem lies in that Lampard/Mikel partnership deep. Since the player in the hole behind the striker is Juan Mata or Eden Hazard, it’s imperative that Lampard and Mikel take up deeper positions, if for no other reason than to close the gap between midfield and defence. However, what I’ve seen in the first two matches is that Lampard is still Lampard, and he wants to spring forward in the attack. There have been numerous occasions when Lampard was further up the pitch than Mata, and Mata was forced to come deep.

    If Lampard is going to burst forward as is his tendency, it exposes Mikel because he already has to take up a higher position than a holding midfielder usually does in order to cycle the ball. Mikel is then left to cover the space behind Lampard, while also watching for diagonal balls and space behind himself.

    This gap behind the midfield and defence is a problem because both Wigan and Reading found it, and Manchester City with Carlos Tevez and Sergio Aguero exposed it. They get in behind Mikel, attack the two CBs by running at one of them, and opening the space behind that CB to attack.

    Lampard must sit deeper and restrict his forward movement. Otherwise, that gap will keep appearing and any time possession is lost without it being a goal kick, our CBs are hung out to dry.

    This is our toughest league test to date, and it might prove a sticking point later on if it proves to expose a weakness. The Blues must also find some continuity in their play, but part of that stems from a lack of training time as a full unit with Olympics and holidays and such.

    Hopefully, we lay down a little marker on Saturday.’

    Fair analysis i suppose.

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  • toon1707

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #31

    I have to agree with DMAC Ba the great striker he is takes a terrible penalty so for me Ben arfa or Cabaye should take them however if Ba takes and scores a penalty today I will gladly apologise for my statement

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  • wingspan

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:38 AM

    Comment #32

    Transfer sage – Its out of respect for season ticketholders/people atr the game i think mate. And obviously keeps people renewing there season tickets which provides a lot of funding for the club. Sales would prob decline if all games were on TV

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  • BelfastMagpie87

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:41 AM

    Comment #33

    Think Ben Arfa should take the pens from now on lol

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  • Belly

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:42 AM

    Comment #34

    We’ve got to pack the midfield today and break in numbers with Cabaye pulling the strings. All being well:
    Krul
    Simmo Saylor Colo Santon
    Tiote Anita
    Ben Arfa Cabaye Ba
    Cissé
    With Ba dropping back into left midfield.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #35

    Wingspan

    For a lot of fans though going to games is not practical from a time or financial situation.

    The premier league recently complained, was a BBC article a couple weeks ago, that 100,000s watch games on illegal and free Internet streams.

    A simple way to address this is to realise most fans can’t get to games and sell the rights.

    People just watch free streams or cheap foreign channels. It doesn’t make that many go to games I don’t think.

    It’s purely financial though. If clubs wanted higher ticket sales and crowds diminish just reduce prices.

    Ticket prices in the uk are between 300-600% up on German prices. Plus prem league get even more tv money so it’s all greed.

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  • SwedishMagpie

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:45 AM

    Comment #36

    ——————–Krul——————-
    Simpson-Taylor-Coloccini-Santon
    ———–Tiote———Jonas———-
    Ben Arfa——Cabaye—-Marveaux
    ———————Ba——————–

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  • Sambo from belgium

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:49 AM

    Comment #37

    Just about the penalty again… (I commented on a earlier post about it). On the picture above, you really can see that Ben Arfa send Friedel to the other direction. Normally when you shoot, automatically you point with your standing foot which direction the ball has to go. Most keepers use this to read which direction the ball will go. But Ben Arfa managed to shoot to the other direction while pointing to the left. It was great great penalty, which technically is hard but brilliant.

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:53 AM

    Comment #38

    TransferSage – they’re worried that if every game was screened on TV, then the attendance at grounds would suffer.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:56 AM

    Comment #39

    Where are ppl getting the idea ba is a sh1t penalty taker from? His miss against the scum?(which was an identical on to bennys) weve only seen benny take one penalty ffs! It was the same after ba scored that freekick every1 wanted him to take over from cabs n guthrie!

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  • ToonDarnSarf

    Aug 25, 2012 at 11:56 AM

    Comment #40

    MUTINY, cheers I’ll investigate!

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