Pardew Hopes For Carroll Return – Transfer Meeting This Week


After manager Alan Pardew had said last night, after the 2-0 defeat at Chelsea, that he didn’t think Andy Carroll would be returning to Newcastle, the Sunday Sun is reporting today that Alan Pardew still hopes Newcastle can bring big Andy home this week.

Andy Carroll – Alan wants him back on Tyneside

Alan was asked whether a final last effort would be made this week for Andy Carroll, and this is what Alan said (this time):

“That is above me, that deal. It’s a financial deal that will be done at board level – if Liverpool and us can agree.” “If you are asking me on a playing level would I like him in the squad then of course. It would be a nice dimension for us.”

“I will speak to Mike, Derek and Graham this week. We will decide whether there is something for us in the market. It depends upon how the market unfolds.” “There can be opportunities in the last week and we might take one.”

And just to contrast that with what we had reported earlier today, this is what Alan had said last night when asked if Andy was coming back to Newcastle:

“I don’t think so,” “We’re talking more of a younger player who could perhaps take the club forward. We’ve taken two or three younger players this season who have done very well for us.” “It depends if the price is right and everything fits the bill.”

We’re coming to the conclusion that even if Liverpool accept Newcastle’s offer of £13M to get Andy back, that’s still big money, and surely some younger strikers can be brought in for a much better deal, and they will have time to develop with our three top strikers not young – Papiss Cisse is 26, Demba Ba 27 and Shola Ameobi is 31 in October, and has injury problems a lot of the time.

The form of young Adam Campbell may be having an impact on the potential Carroll deal too, but Newcastle need a player who can come in and get the job done for Newcastle, and Newcastle just cannot rely on a young 17 year-old coming through.

And don’t forget that a young striker was initially the number one target this summer, since we have only three experienced strikers after Peter Lovenkrands and Leon Best both left the club,  but 21 year-old Luuk de Jung didn’t want to come to Newcastle.

We suppose the two statements from Alan Pardew above could be considered consistent – he doesn’t think Newcastle will bring Andy back but he would love to have him back in the squad.

But the decisions on these issues are made by Mike Ashley and Derek LLambias, and not by the manager, and as we have seen over the last couple of years, the value of a deal seems of paramount importance, and there’s just no way Newcastle will pay Liverpool’s asking price of £20M for Carroll.

What do you think?

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100 comments so far

  • Beattie25

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #1

    Thank god we are having a transfer meeting with only a week left to go in the window.

    We are saved!

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  • gaz 44

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:21 AM

    Comment #2

    i am beautiful

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  • Beattie25

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #3

    The Sunday sun comments sound like a rehash of the old comments made by Pardew when we first bid for Carroll.

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  • BigKirky

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #4

    Looking forward to seeing Campbell played more in the cups. Pace alone has a chance of beating anyone but if you combine that with finishing ability, he can be very dangerous at any level.

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  • lordy_geordie

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #5

    Hey guys has anyone ever played soccermanager from soccer manager .com? its free (well you get to manager 2 teams in different games for free or you can pay to set up a custom game where you just invite your friends.
    I have just signed up to a free game, they’re in the first season and not played a game yet, I thought would be cool if you guys were interested to either set up a custom game or join the site and have me invite each one and have a little competition? you get to buy and sell players and such like, dunno how good it will be just throwing an idea out there. This is the 2nd time iv’e posted this, wont do it again as don’t want to spam the blog but will check later to see if there is any interest

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  • Dennis Twice

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:26 AM

    Comment #6

    Ashley makes some cash during next week.

    bye bye Tiote the Great

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  • pieceofpapiss

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:27 AM

    Comment #7

    Wow – I used to come on this blog for a bit of intellectual conversation with people who understand football and the position this club is in. Suddenly its turned ito a bunch moaning hypocrites. Everyone needs to get some perspective. Last year, we performed above all expectations. This year, teams will be wise to us. They know where our threat comes from; Cabaye, HBA and Cisse were unknowns last season. We don’t have the money to spend big on world class players; MA is trying to get the best value for money to ensure our financial stability. This does not happen over night. Relegation helped with that, getting rid of the high earners etc.
    Europe will help too, due to the increase gates/competition fees.
    Investment has been made. Tiote, Cabaye, HBA, Cisse, Ba, Marveux, Amilfitano, Bigi, Contracts for Colo, Krul, Saylor. This isnt cheap.
    I agree we need a few more players in, but don’t criticize the players we have in already. This is a growing team, still young under MA’s policy.
    We aren’t going to be competing for the top 5 every season and most REALISTIC Newcastle fans have come to terms with this and will be patient.

    And on a side note, personal attacks on other bloggers make you look like a childish idiot (unless its against Ketsbia9, then its totally justified)

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  • BelfastMagpie

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #8

    Full bullshit from the sunday sun.

    Them comments are the ones Pardew made weeks ago.

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  • canadiantoon7179

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:29 AM

    Comment #9

    i’ve been thinking if we do sell tiote for lets say around 20mil, we can then bid for m’vila for around 15mil(thats all they are asking for him), and plus m’vila i feel is better and younger than tiote, just a thought

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  • geordie157

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:30 AM

    Comment #10

    I really don’t like the word “one”, we ideally need 4 players in, RB, CB, RM & ST. But being realistic i know over time we’ll probably get them. So for now i’d settle for just two more in.

    Make a move for Nathan Dyer and one last attempt for Debuchy. Pull that off and a team something like this looks strong plus a strong bench.

    ———————-Krul————————-
    Debuchy——Saylor——Colo——–Santon
    Dyer———–Tiote——-Cabaye—–Jonas
    ——————-Ben Arfa——————–
    ———————-Ba————————-

    Subs
    Harps, Raylor, Perch, Anita, Marveaux, Cisse, Shola.

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  • Spreadthetoon

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #11

    “Oh yeah……that’s right Alan, we’ll reduce our squad to frail numbers….then we’ll make signing a striker our number 1 target…..and then we’ll do exactly what we did last time……”
    Got to hand it to you MA @ least your consistent with your ambition.

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  • geordie157

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:33 AM

    Comment #12

    Wonder if there’ll be a desperate last min bid for someone on friday night, a la N’Zogbia and Ruiz. thank god we didnt waste money on them.

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  • Ketsbaia9

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:34 AM

    Comment #13

    That’s what I sugested. Sell Tiote for £25m, sign M’Villa for £15m and then go for Remy for £10m. We will then have £!5-16m remaining in our budget to sign Debuchy, Mbiwa and a young striker as fourth choice.

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  • magpiebop

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:35 AM

    Comment #14

    Everybody be cool. Are you cool?

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  • jimiley

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:36 AM

    Comment #15

    Buying Carroll would be big mistake. We play enough headball as it is. Footballing teams play on the deck. Tired of playing like Stoke and Wimbledon. Anyway, Cashley has already spent 3 million on players this summer. No cash left unless he sells a top player. Then a mad scramble on the last day to buy a cheaper replacement? Anybody fancy us for 4th?

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  • AMEOBI

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:38 AM

    Comment #16

    Geordie157,

    Dyer? Cisse bench? Who are you?

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  • jimiley

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #17

    Living in a fantasy world if you think we are signing 3 or 4 players this week. One at most. But we might sell a top player as well. Ambition? Do not make me laugh.

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  • geordie157

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #18

    M’Vila is over rated.

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  • AMEOBI

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #19

    Kets,
    Sounds so easy doesn’t it? Idiot

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  • BelfastMagpie

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:40 AM

    Comment #20

    I think you’ll probably see a bid for Debuchy & Carroll with a few hours to go.

    Likely to be rejected.

    And then the “we tried ” line will be rolled out lol

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  • Hatem's better than Messi

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #21

    @pieceofpapiss

    “Suddenly its turned ito a bunch moaning hypocrites. Everyone needs to get some perspective”.

    “And on a side note, personal attacks on other bloggers make you look like a childish idiot”

    Who’s the moaning hypocrite? You just have to laugh.

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  • Munster Mag

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #22

    But Geordie157, thats partly the point …..we were ready to get Ruiz!! And in a panic it seems. Reasonable fans like me are looking for investment in maybe two quality players to enhance the team – we actully could do with more – but 2 players of quality, costing say 5-7 million each, would help a lot. The transfer window has been a damp squid in terms of firts team players and I am hoping that members of the MASC ( Mike Ashley Supporters Club ) have their faith justified by the end of the window. My concern is that we have had plenty of time to spend money, but havent shown a lot of interest in doing so. Hopefully Lille will be dumped out of the CL and cash their chips on Debuchy, but the first team could do with more than 1 player tbh. Tough game yesterday in all fairness, but our lack of crativity was worrying. We need to get the likes of Marveaux and HBA on the pitch, high up the pitch, more ofter. HBA was taking too much ball off the centre backs yesterday.

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  • Ketsbaia9

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #23

    We should be making signings like Everton are doing. Miralles and Mbaye Niang are excellent signings. They have Jelavic, that greek striker and the 2 above strikers (4 quality strikers). We have 2 decent strikers. It’s not good enough.

    I’m surprised we didn’t go for Cissokho and Konate or even Sahin on loan. It’s depressing.

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  • Munster Mag

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #24

    Good post 21 !

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  • midlandgeordie

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:43 AM

    Comment #25

    Three signings needed: debuchy, guidetti and yanga mbiwa.

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  • geordie157

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #26

    What’s wrong with Nathan Dyer? Pace, decent on the ball, used to playing a good pass and move style, tracks back, creates chances, excites fans. can play right wing in a 4 man midfield or on right of front 3.

    Plus it gives us the chance to unleash Ben Arfa, who is playing well but having to cover Simpson means he spends a lot of time having to dribble out of our own half.

    and it’s not a set in stone line up, can easily go with Cisse or ba up front or play both in a front 2 or 3.

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  • magpiebop

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #27

    Carroll will come home.

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  • canadiantoon7179

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #28

    @18 please explain how m’vila is overated! im not saying it will happen, but its just a suggestion in case we do sell tiote. and i also agree there is no way we will be signing 3-4 more players this window, maybe 1 more, 2 would be pushing it

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  • Spreadthetoon

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #29

    Signing 3 or 4 senior players is not beyond the realm of financial stability but some fickle n feckless peeps on ere r being duped by the fat controller in the big machine! This is the most frustrating window….it has failed to keep up with my modest and prudent (but not prudish) optimism. I mean how can you go from Luke De Yong to nothing….and then sell Best…..at least he was cover and provided options!

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  • ToonDownSouth

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:45 AM

    Comment #30

    Why didn’t get get Sahin on loan?

    Hmm. Maybe it’s the £5m loan fee, even though there’s NO option to buy.

    Or maybe it’s his £115k per week wages.

    Hmm. Hmm. Hmmmmmm.

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  • midlandgeordie

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #31

    Three signings needed : debuchy, guidetti and yanga mbiwa.

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  • geordie157

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #32

    Kets, i have to agree, plus i don’y think everton are done yet they’ll get a couple more in next week. They’ve got a strong squad with some decent depth and quality too.

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  • Munster Mag

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #33

    Belfast Magpie, your “negativity” will be attacked here. You’re probably right though!

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  • SuperShearer

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #34

    @PieceOfPapiss well said. Love the way the club’s being run at the moment. Chelsea were always going to be a VERY tough test, they’re champions of Europe, the fact we thought we could even compete with them shows just how far we’ve come in two years. If you’d offered me 3 points from our opening 2 fixtures against Spurs and Chelsea I’d have taken it with delight.

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  • Ketsbaia9

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #35

    The clubs a complete joke. Does Mike not want to get us into the champions league? We are going to struggle this season with the current squad. Key players will get tired and will start under-performing.

    I was getting excited when we made 4 bids in a few days for decent players. Can’t believe what’s happening. Missing out on Luuk De Jong was a disaster.

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  • AMEOBI

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #36

    Geordie157,

    I agree with Dyer he’s a cracking player but to drop cisse/ba for him is beyond me.. Won’t happen so pointless discussing 😉

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  • dmac

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:49 AM

    Comment #37

    Moan moan moan. I will undoubtedly get slated for this but Tiote hasnt looked sharp for ages now. He has become sloppy and showed last season and the little he has featured so far that his passing is woeful and he gives the ball away too easy. I really like the lad and would love him to stay but i wont be shedding tears if he was to move on.

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  • AMEOBI

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:50 AM

    Comment #38

    Kets,

    You full your posts but boy your a fking idiot

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  • ToonDownSouth

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:50 AM

    Comment #39

    Kets

    Serious question, and I’d like you to answer.

    All you do is post on here every single day – without fail – and moan, whinge and complain about everything.

    Is your life really that bad? Why are you so depressed all the time? It’s genuinely worrying.

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  • ochytoon

    Aug 26, 2012 at 10:51 AM

    Comment #40

    £20 says they are not looking at any players right now. We’ll march on till January with the squad we have a constantly get a “we couldn’t get them over the line” speech.

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