The People reported yesterday that Newcastle will go in with one last final offer to bring Geordie striker Andy Carroll back to Newcastle this week.
Andy Carroll – may not get his wish to return to Newcastle
Carroll cost Liverpool a massive £35M in January of 2011, and he has never quite settled on Merseyside, and certainly the Liverpool club have never played to his strengths, either under former manager Kenny Dalglish, or current manager Brendan Rodgers.
Andy has been on the bench in Liverpool’s first two games of the season, coming on as a very late substitute in both games, but he will not be a starter at the club this season.
Newcastle have already bid £13M to take Andy back home for a one year loan deal with the chance of signing him permanently, but Liverpool want at least £20M.
And Liverpool manager may have opened the door a little bit when he had this to say to the People:
“I can’t sit here and say anyone will definitely be here because you know the way football works.”
But then the People report goes into neverland, when they suggest Newcastle will increase their bid to £17M this week for big Andy, but we just don’t think Newcastle will do that, and the club could do better things with £17M.
I mean after all, that’s just over half of what Liverpool paid Newcastle for him – so obviously – he’s not worth that much. 
Newcastle could possibly go in for Carroll this week, but they’ll not raise their fee too much, and will hope that Liverpool see the error of their ways, when they want to keep a top striker at the club, when he’s not part of their new future plans under Rodgers.
And Andy remains a favorite with the Anfield crowd, who welcomed him into the game yesterday against Manchester City, and he’s always been a popular lad in the dressing room.
It’s well known that Andy is very keen to return to Newcastle, and he’d probably walk across the Pennines to return home, but he may not get that chance, if Liverpool keep asking for such a high fee for the Geordie lad.
Getting Andy back would certainly give Newcastle a fresh option up front, because he offers something different to current Senegal strikers Demba Ba and Papiss Cisse.
We wonder what the chances are of Newcastle getting Debuchy, Carroll and Douglas through the door this week?
To be continued.
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1 RonVanDam // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:14 AM
I have a feeling we might get AC. Not fussed if we dont. It gives us a option to play high ball to score when our game plan isnt working
2 Indian Magpie // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:16 AM
Happy Birthday Romain Amalfitano
3 RonVanDam // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:17 AM
A fair value for AC would be 13m. He’s proven and young and few years from his prime. I would be happy if we got 2 backs this window and a striker
4 superkrul // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:17 AM
We could of done with him vs chelski coz balls in the box we won nothing and defenders hoofing it up top and it came strait back and the plus side is he’s a Geordie and wants to play for the toon not for money get him here !
5 jesperfuglsang // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:17 AM
It would really be a surprise if this was true – cannot see that happen.
6 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:18 AM
Ed’s on fire again!
Like already said many times. If big mike stutters at giving an extra 1m for the debuchy deal NO WAY is he gonna break the bank for carroll. No doubt pardew would take andy back and no doubt would he score goals but as for the team balance I’d rather get debz in
7 putra_hayzad // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:19 AM
You got to be kidding me , wow ash you surprise me
8 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:19 AM
Happy Birthday Romain whooooooooo
9 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:19 AM
No chance not at this price regardless of how much we sold him for, that should have no bearing on what hes worth which based on his time at liverpool is at tops £10mil
Beattie
Agree with your last post about anita, the lad is getting some very harsh critism saturday, ppl seemed to forget he’d only been with the squad for like 8 days and in that time has already played in 3 games, 2 of them for a full 90 mins within 48 hours and with 2 completly different starting 11?s around him
Players take time to settle, look at giroud,podolski and caIzorla they have hardly hit the ground running, same with chelski its only hazard who has come in on top form but when you spend £32 mil on a player you expect them to!!
10 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:20 AM
The chances of us signing another midfielder went out the door as soon as we signed Anita. We have plenty of cover for midfield (not world class but promosing youngsters) and I reckon we will se maybe one more signing that will most probably be a defender, hopefully Debuchy. On the striker front I reckon it will be left till January and be dependant on the ACON. We all know big Mike likes a gamble, lets just hope it pays off and no-one gets injured
And on Andy Carroll, No thankyou. We could get Debuchy and a small nippy striker like Gaimero for the price Liverpool want to sell Judas for
11 Indian Magpie // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:21 AM
Bring back Jason Prior
12 toon_asprilla2012 // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:21 AM
Get him in we need him. We need diff styles upfront. We becoming to 1 dimensional. Cisse n ba wicked players but like ed said Carrol offers a diff threat ie long balls, hold up ball, connect midfield to strike, headers in box and a RIFLE left foot outside the box BANG
13 Beattie25 // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:24 AM
Re post
Does anybody else think wingers cannot really be a part of a successful team?!
It was Mourinho who kind of started this 4-3-3 thing but before that everyone had wingers apart from a few including Brazil (94-2002), France (98), AC Milan (late 90?s early 2000?s) Ajax (90?s), Real Madrid (early to mid 2000?s) and the legacy of these teams is seen in the Barca team of today.
Control the game and win the game. There is no need for wingers if you have the correct full backs available and a lot of midfielders acting as a creative wall.
That would be the best way forward in the PL. It’s so different to anything on the English game that I’d guarantee we’d be near the top if we pulled it off.
4-3-3 with played like Hazard would fail against a 4-3-1-1-1. He would have no room whatsoever.
14 Transfer Sage // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:26 AM
Beattie
Wingers are still important. Last season pep guardiola did an interview where he said that he felt Barcelona had stopped using wingers and teams managed to crowd them out in the centre.
He wanted to get wingers back into the side so got pedro and sanchez to play wider roles.
It gave more room in the middle for messi, iniesta, xavi and fabregas to do their thing.
15 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:26 AM
Hey with all this talk of bringing people back…
Is micky owen still on a free??? (Snigger)
16 dmac // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:26 AM
@beattie Barca play a variation of 4 3 3 and usually play sanchez,pedro,affellay and villa etc in a wingers position.
17 oldbobaycliffe // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:27 AM
if andy carroll comes back home it will be to sit on the bench and 17million is a lot to pay for someone to do that.
18 Indian Magpie // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:30 AM
Who needs wingers when u have
Dani Alves
Jordi alba
19 Szarka // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:31 AM
13, not a penny more.
Need an Rb, 3th choice CD and a young, but proven striker, all of them cant be more then 20 mill together.
Debuchy 6 mill. , Douglas for 4,5 mill. , so we have 9,5 for a striker. Caroll could be a bit more but not higher then our 13 bid. And hes not even the best option.
20 pieceofpapiss // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:31 AM
Why does everyone think that playing AC means long ball?!? He’s got one of the best left foots in the league and can pass and move like the best. £17m would still mean a profit of £18m. Bargain if you ask me.
21 pieceofpapiss // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:31 AM
Why does everyone think that playing AC means long ball?!? He’s got one of the best left foots in the league and can pass and move like the best.
£17m would still mean a profit of £18m. Bargain if you ask me.
22 Lee Dodd // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:32 AM
I think we may Get a defender this week. Owen will head to stoke’ Carroll to Head for His Armchair at Anfield !!!! I think it all depends on what we do on Thursday Night if we Qualify then its mass signatures on friday morning if not we don’t get anyone !!!
23 ToonDownSouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:35 AM
Why can we not just say
“We are not selling any players in the final eek of the transfer window.”
We don’t need the money. It’s getting tiring, Pardew repeating himself over and over.
24 nico // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:35 AM
I think we will sign AC. He would fit very well. He is a good player and holds the ball up well. He is also very dangerous from set pieces.
Problem we have at the moment from attacking set pieces is we only have one plan / target. Other teams see this and mark e.g. Saylot or Williamson with 2/’3 players. Hoy Carrol in there and they have a problem.
25 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:35 AM
It’s a waste of money. I’d have him back for £10m. We can sign Debuchy, Douglas and Remy for £19m.
26 Indian Magpie // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:36 AM
TDS
May b pardew knows something that u and I dont
27 Munster Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:37 AM
I’m a bit intrigued by our attempts to sign Carroll. Overall I like him, but one has to assume that Pardew is not as wedded to the type of fluent football that people on this site want, or expect. Carroll just doesnt have the skillset to play in the way Ba does. I wonder how he would link up with Cisse – surely not as well as ba would, and we already have issues with playing 2 strikers ….
28 Munster Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:38 AM
Keta , are u mad ? No way would we getb them for that much. I cant see us going for carroll unless its a stonking deal.
29 dmac // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:40 AM
That statement right there Kets is why you get so much stick
30 Indian Magpie // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:41 AM
AC,
Played very well against us at SJP shd have scored, ignoring the dive,
he can play well, in addition, with a lack of a striker ba and cisse might just get complacent
31 Szarka // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:41 AM
Pieceofpappis: He worth 10-13, not much more. Hes good at heading, but not a good passer, nor creative to play combinateve football. He has other good qualities, but far away tu be the best striker in the EPL.
32 mot7 // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:41 AM
would we even consider him if he wasnt a geordie . it might sound daft in our present financial situation but i would be realy pissed off if we spent 17m on him .that could be spent in better ways . cant belive i would complain if ashley spent 17m on one player but when that player is worth no more than 10 m in my opinion even that is a bit overpriced for what he is a very average player who on a good day can be a handfull
33 nico // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:42 AM
Munster Mag
Rarely have Ba and Cisse linked well when both playing up front together. One of them with AC would work much better
34 Ben3arfa // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:44 AM
with 17m we could buy a much better striker(s)
35 Toon73 // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:44 AM
Wake up Kets you’re living in a fantasy land throwing those figures around.
36 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:47 AM
Carroll would be perfect for stoke. Imagine him and Crouch upfront
37 Transfer Sage // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:47 AM
Carroll is better than he gets credit for.
Watch his goal for Liverpool in the cup final.
He has good close control and is decisive.
The problem is when he is on the pitch people always go long.
If other players around him took more responsibility he wouldn’t look as one dimensional as he does sometimes.
He is by no means as technical as some players but cisse isn’t technical. He has a good finish but his touches and passin isn’t great.
In reality some people think we are barca or madrid. If we can use Carroll properly he would be a good player for us.
If getting him means we play everything long then it’s a waste.
38 Kebabacus // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:48 AM
Perfect Ashley deal: 50% off!
Would love it to happen, those who don’t want him back have very short memories. He was awesome for us.
39 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:48 AM
I never looked at it that way Lee Dodd, maybe us qualifying on thurs will throw a bit of momentum at our incomings!
40 thebionicMAG // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:51 AM
I agree with Kets. People in the past have said things like “If Andy Carroll is worth 35 million then X, Y and Z must be worth”…etc etc
The point is Andy Carroll was never EVER worth 35 million in the first place, nor is he worth 17.
If Pards and Carr want him back then I guess we have to trust them but for 17 Million? No way! Lets be real, it was Liverpool who panicked and over spent, why should we do the same even at 17?
41 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:51 AM
I disagree Transfer Sage, cisse’s passing and build up play is sublime at times he just hasn’t woken up this season yet haha! Wait till the dragon arises! I find him incredibly technical he was all over for us last season
42 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:52 AM
Debuchy – £6m, Douglas, £4m and Remy at £9m. Yeah we could be looking at £21-22m instead.
43 iggystinger // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:55 AM
In my opinion its a left back we need switch santon to right back his natural position and where he wants to play use simmo or r taylor as cover and ul notice we have no natural left back we’re playin players out of position there get a left back in asap centre back and a striker all this talk of a right back and we dont need one left back we need
44 Transfer Sage // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:55 AM
Pbncl
I’m not saying cisse is bad, just he isn’t the most technical of players.
He isn’t a David villa he is more a Michael Owen.
He won’t get too involved in build up, you want him pushing as far forward as possible cause you know if he gets a chance you have a goal.
45 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:56 AM
We could’ve had Konate and Mbaye Niang for £4m instead of Carroll for £17m. We could probably get Remy and another player with the extra £13m.
I was disappointed that we didn’t sign Giroud or De Jong. They were around £12m each. Carroll isn’t worth £17m.
I also feel that we need a pacey striker (i,e, Remy, Gameiro etc).
46 Beattie25 // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:56 AM
No way we’ll get Carroll for that much unless they still owe money on the deal!
They might have had to pay another £5 million after so many PL goals etc… and we’ll write that off?!
47 AMEOBI // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:57 AM
Kets,
Yeah you could but Carroll for 17 but that’s one wage bill.. Then u say sign 3players and that’s more wage bill?
Get it into your thick skull kid!
Anyways how long left of transfers?
48 bollance // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:59 AM
From reading this blog when we were first linked with carrol the feeling was about 50:50 on whether the fans wanted him back.
The fact we have not made too many signings the majority want AC back because they want signings!
I would not pay £17m, no way. Ba free and Cisse £9m. Must be a better option in the market?
Who else could we buy for £17m?
49 alex84 // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:01 PM
Kets, when you say buy him for 4 mill him for 10 mill etc…do you take into account of agent fees, and paying the players wages…just thought I’d ask?
50 iggystinger // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:02 PM
Im surprised we never went in for mbaye niang one of the top up and coming strikers and we would get him at a snip he,s going to be a crackin player
51 hattambenarfa // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:02 PM
just watching a vid of andys goals for us, around 90% of them were assisted by barton. underrated delivery that lad
on that point, cabayes corners are absolutely shocking
52 bollance // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:02 PM
Transfer Sage
The other day you suggested a signing on Tuesday. Douglas told he needs to decide whether he staying or going in next day or two. Could the signing be Douglas?
53 bollance // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:04 PM
iggystinger
How much did Niang go for? £2m.. what a bargain!
54 Rozzy // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:05 PM
Should bid for Remy
55 Jamesthefirst // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:07 PM
People need to stop thinking about the price. Ashley earns that kind of money in 2 months.
Carroll has 10 years of football in him, and is desperate to come home.
The other strikers worth that fee want big wages which we can’t afford. Andy is willing to take a wage cut to play for us. How many top strikers could you say that of…none.
Carroll is perfect as a plan B, and for those tough away fixtures in Europe on a Thurs night so BA and Cissie can be rested for the league.
I hope we get him this week, but I still think we will have to wait until Jan and will end up paying £15 million.
56 iggystinger // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:07 PM
As far as i know aye in the region of 2million but he couldnt reach an agreement with milan spurs and everton are meant to be in for him now we should jump in with a bid he’ll be the nxt drogba guaranteed
57 Transfer Sage // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:08 PM
Bollance
I never said Tuesday.
I said I heard they wanted a deal done before the game on Thursday.
But no idea who, sorry.
Could be Douglas though.
58 Gateshead-Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:09 PM
couldnt disagree more on cisse
everytime he gets the ball he looks class, the thing is hes coming deep or going out wide to get it so not in goal scoring position,
he always gets a pass away or gos past someone, imo hes better on the ball than ba, point is they should be further forward but because weve been out played in midfield so far in the league theyve had to drop deep to try and help win the ball back
59 ToonJovi // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:11 PM
Carroll wouldnt be plan B for me! if we are going to stick playing 2 up top then both Cisse or Ba would be more more effective playing alongside Carroll rather than them both together!
Sign up Carroll and Debuchy and id be delighted! not even that fussed about another CB as we’ve got Perchinio!
60 hattambenarfa // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:12 PM
we need to start dominating the midfield more in games no question about it. with our current team a better line up would be
Krul
Santon taylor colo jonas
tiote anita
hba cabaye marveaux
cisse
61 Beattie25 // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:13 PM
Bs and Cisse are predatory strikers that feed of creativity.
When the midfield is outnumbered and their is no creativity both strikers look shit.
It’s notthem though it’s the tactics.
62 Beattie25 // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:15 PM
Can you change language and predictive text on an iPhone??
63 Spotlight Kid // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:15 PM
AC was sold down the river by Ashley. He didn’t want to go, and was only pressured to hand in a transfer request AFTER the fee was agreed.
I think the profit already made out of the kid should be quite enough for the Newcastle board, and the fact one of the finest English forwards of recent years (and a deserving full international) is now sitting on the bench is a tragedy that Andy did not deserve (depite his regretable off field misdemeanours).
OK, there is an ethical dimension to this, and this goes beyond Ashley seeing a chance to do a clever bit of asset stripping. This is a young footballer’s life, and I think the club now owes something to AC. I said at the time of the transfer he was a £12m player, abut I think it’s a far better AC that we’d be getting back than the one that reluctantly shanked off down the A1. Is he worth £17m, probably not? But he is certainly worth £14m, and the rest you can either put down to ‘conscience’ or ‘opportunity cost’ or ‘education fees’, as we would be getting back the best young English forward in the Prem. And a confident Andy would be every bit as potent as the current front two.
64 shamsoftabriz // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:16 PM
We may sell Yohan Cabaye to Arsenal for 15M
We may buy Andy Carroll from Liverpool for 17M
This is why we fail.
65 Jamesthefirst // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:16 PM
The other thing about AC is that remember the context of when he left.
His mate Hughton had just been sacked and Pardew had been here a few weeks and everyone was worried what direction the club was going in. Things looked brighter elsewhere. Not any more.
Many papers and Liverpool threads are saying Newcastle will make one final bid on Friday to try and force Liverpool’s hand.
66 Gateshead-Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:17 PM
toon jovi
thats how i see it aswell, cant even judge him on his liverpool time as hes been used as a sub and not had a decent run of games apart from end of last season and he was a beast!!
looked a real handful for england aswell, we should know hes a quality player better than any other fans, point is liverpool was the wrong move for him, LESSON LEARNED
67 hattambenarfa // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:18 PM
Beattie agreed, if we are going to play two upfront we either need it to be a skillful arfa type player, or a carroll, a lump.
i dont like the idea of playing 442, but if pardew is set on it then i can see the sense in bringing in carroll.
as has been seen i prefer 4231 but alternatively to play two upfront could play 4312 and give hba a free role
Krul
Santon(debuchy) taylor colo jonas(santon)
tiote cabaye anita
hba
ba(carroll) cisse
68 Jamesthefirst // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:18 PM
@SpotlightKid completely agree. Well said.
69 Rotonda heights // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:18 PM
If we bring carroll back to play the 442, we might as well flog all our midfield ball players who prefer a 433 and tell Simpson to stick to what he does, ie hoof it.
is that what you want? Is that what you really want?
70 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:19 PM
Another thing that worries me is the lack of clear cut chances we have created for Ba and Cisse. I know we have played two of the better sides in the league but something is not right
71 ToonDownSouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:20 PM
Our record of making last minute bids over the previous 3 windows suggests that we will not sign anyone.
72 one Tony Green // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:21 PM
Think Andy Carroll is totally underated by many people on this site. As for the fantasy comments that we could have had De Jong or Giroud they were not interested in coming. I am surprised we have not shown an interest in Scott Sinclair 6 million for him is a snip.
If we do sign Big Andy and he starts banging in the goals all the doubters on here will be waxing lyrical.
HWTL
73 Transfer Sage // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:21 PM
Gateshead
My point on cisse is more that his technical attributes are his shooting and finishing.
He hasn’t got the aguero/tevez movement and jinking run. He doesn’t shimmy past people, get moves past the before he has the ball.
74 Gateshead-Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:22 PM
tds
judge every window on their own merrit mate, different situations different players, i do however think our signings will be made with time to spare
75 ToonDownSouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:22 PM
BPC
We’ve now got two (what should be) straight forward games, followed by a two week break.
If we win them both and then give most of our players a good rest, everything could change.
Fingers crossed ‘ey?
76 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:22 PM
Carroll is mostly hype I’ve gotta say. If he were this good why would rodgers want rid?? Surely if he were such a good player he wouls be a starter at liverpool who must be desperate to do better than last year! But no, brendan don’t see carroll in his plans and its not cos he’s sh-t hot haha
77 AMEOBI // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:23 PM
I’d be happy without a CB as Perch is playing absolutely top class..
Can someone please tell when transfer shuts? Friday at 11?
78 jayphoto // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:23 PM
Think people are forgetting how good Andy Carroll actually is! He fits a 4-4-2 (which like it or not is what we’re gonna play more often than not) and we have a much better side than when he left! Would love to see cisse or ha feeding on his knock downs!
The other thing is, Carroll has a very good chance of being England number 9 for a few years! The marketting revenue for the club would be high if he pushes on! Remember his goal against Sweden? We threaten nothing serially, Carroll would make us stronger defending set pieces and attacking them! Tbh, we all need to look past price tags, none of us are nufc accountants n we should just just be excited with top players like AC coming in
79 Transfer Sage // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:24 PM
Rotonda
I am at a dilemma.
I like Carroll an think he is more technical that he gets credit for. He is a decent player with the ball at his feet, nothing special but not bad either.
My problem is we seem to have no control in midfield. I like 433 and another striker will move us further away from that.
I’m just going to trust pardew knows what he is doing and will hopefully get the lads back to their best.
80 Gateshead-Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:25 PM
sage
aye your right there, was just saying he looks good on the ball no-matter where he is,was aimed mainly at people saying hes had shockers, he hasnt hes played well hes just had to play almost in midfield due to the lack of play in the opposition half
the only shots hes managed to get on the end of have required alot of skill on his part, balls over the top hit on the volley and so fourth
81 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:26 PM
And if carroll does come, I would like to reitterate.. I dislike his character and the way he has behaved in a number of situations which I’m not gonna drag up again, I just want to say that if he does come and scores goals I will be happy for the team, but no I will not be a carroll supporter. Only if after say 2 trouble free season’s will I cheer for him. I’m not fickle. Hope we don’t get him tho. Each to their own
82 Jamesthefirst // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:28 PM
We are level on points with Man Utd, and have more points than Spurs, Liverpool, and Arsenal.
With a very winnable game on Sat against Villa.
Coming just 2 days after we secure qualification to the group stages of Europa League.
Come on th Toon!!
83 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:29 PM
Aye window shuts at 11 fri ameobi
84 ToonDownSouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:29 PM
pbNcl
What if yo’ve got a choice between signing Carroll or signing no one?
85 Gateshead-Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:29 PM
pbncl
rodgers is trying to get liverpool playing like swansea/barcelona, the way i see pardew wants us playing is more direct passing football real madrid/germany if you will
just because he doesnt fit into rodgers plans does not mean he isnt a quality player
jayphoto
spot on there mate
86 AMEOBI // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:29 PM
One Tony Green,
That’s spot on mate, he’s so underrated on this blog… People think he can only use his head, he’s got the package for me also to play for your home team makes it better?
87 magpie79 // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:30 PM
tranfersage saying that u hear that club would like a signing before the game on thrusday is stating the obvious!!!i dont think u have 2 have inside info 2 say that mate.
88 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:31 PM
ToonDownSouth I’d pick noone and save 17m for jan haha then make a sensational double swoop for messi and ronaldo paid in peanut’s haha
89 AMEOBI // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:34 PM
pbNcl
Cheers buddy
90 ToonDownSouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:35 PM
pbNcl
Haha, don’t worry, I don’t see us signing him. Liverpool have 3 strikers on their books – they’d be mental to sell Carroll.
91 Transfer Sage // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:40 PM
I know it’s obvious.
It’s just what I heard.
My info is usually wrong ago it could be a poor window haha
92 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:40 PM
No probs AMEOBI, gonna be a mad end to the week like haha! Suprised krul hasn’t been linked with anybody to be honest! Or pardew!
93 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:40 PM
Yeah, but 19 and 17 year olds won’t demand as much. For instance, Mbaye Niang may only want £10k per week and Konate £15k, whereas Carroll would demand around £80k.
So my point is valid chap.
94 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:41 PM
This is something that I do not get on this blog. People say “oh Andy Carroll is much better with his feet than people give him credit for” this may be true but why bring in a 6 foot plus striker if you are not going to play to his strengths the majority of the time ? .
Ba and Cisse arent exactly midgets and are perfectly capable of heading a ball but lack the low center of gravity and the ability to turn on a dime and beat a man with pace and trickery. Campbell could be the solution in a few years time but is too raw at the minute
95 one Tony Green // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:42 PM
Thanks Ameobi I would love to have him back. He would want to prove so many people wrong and in my humble opinion help NUFC become a better team.
Young Brad Inmans parents own my local and they have watched Andy Carroll from a real youngster and they say he is deceptively quick and has two great feet as well as his undoubted prowess in the air.
96 magpie79 // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:45 PM
hahaha good answer transfersage i hope your actually right this time though bud hahaha
97 Gateshead-Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:46 PM
ketsbia
carroll will not be offered 80 grand a week to come back, 50 at the very most
98 ToonAndy // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:46 PM
I would love us to sign Remy… Although can anyone tell me why he’s been On the bench the last few games??… Does the coach prefer Ayew?
99 ToonDownSouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:48 PM
Maybe Carroll’s the CB we’re after?
Strong, tall, good in the air, and scores (no more than) 8 goals a season.
100 Sholadona // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:49 PM
I think Carroll may be one of these Bryan Ruiz/Charles N’Zogbia deadline day things. Sky will say we have put in a bid that drags on for most of the day and we will have to listen to that nobhead David Craig all Friday!
101 ToonDownSouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:52 PM
I recall someone claiming that the deadline day was the 3rd or 4th this year. ie. The first Monday of September.
Is that bollocks? Or true?
102 Sholadona // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:53 PM
@TDS Sky saying Deadline is Friday at 11pm
103 Hatem's better than Messi // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:53 PM
I hope we sign Andy – Best header of the ball in the world.
You have to play to his strengths.
Can Marveaux, Cabaye & HBA ping in perfect crosses for the big lad?
Can Cisse, Ba & HBA feed off his knock downs?
Old school meets new school. Hybrid football. Passing football with a target man option.
104 Transfer Sage // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:56 PM
Big pappa
You can play long of needed to get the ball out quick.
You can get the ball out wide and cross.
Or play to his feet and link up with the other lads.
Can easily mix it up.
105 Zero // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:57 PM
@103 I hope we sign Andy – Best header of the ball in the world.
erm … no.. no hes not …. not even close…. not even in england, im sure theres defenders with better conversion rates than AC. Hes not totally inept, but hes not worth 12 let alone 17 million.
106 yorkshireToon // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:57 PM
For anyone thinking Carroll will demand high wages there’s no chance of that.
He doesn’t need the money and if he did come back he’d want to win the fans over and in pretty confident he’d accept around 40k to start with maybe even less and I can just picture his interview saying its not about the money I’ve always loved this club and I wanted to be here..
107 magpie79 // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:58 PM
anyone think we should make attempt 2 try and get jose back from the fools?i know he wanted 2 leave us but hes the best left back ive seen at the toon in my time as a season ticket holder.maybe he regrets leaving us and would fancy coming back???he only lefted because he didnt think the club was moving in the right direction which clearly now it was and will still have alot of friends here eg collo and spiderman.?im not sure if he will be a rodgers type of player??me personally would love him back and wondered what the general feeling about that on here would be???thoughts???
108 Transfer Sage // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:58 PM
Zero
He is brilliant in the air. That cannot be denied.
109 AMEOBI // Aug 27, 2012 at 12:59 PM
Tony green,
Speaking of Brad inman, he still a newcastle player? Or was he released?
Ah I’m just looking forward to a mad week haha, I’m at scotland till friday then I’ll watch deadline day can’t wait
110 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:00 PM
Buying Carroll and wanting to play foootball on the floor would be like having a Japanese steak knife but using a plastic spork to cut your meat
111 ilovetoon8788 // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:00 PM
Idiots who think Andy is not good enough. Wtf. But I still think we need defenders first priority.
And tiote is definitely leaving. It’s just a matter of if we can get a replacement in. 1 foot out of the door. Destination arsenal.
And Cisse and Ba are strikers that need to be fed. With a completely not match fit out of form cabaye, a holding midfielder in tiote and guti who can only run and track all day long. Of course our strikers are going to look crap. Against Chelsea even with Benzema and Ibrahimovic we were never going to score.
112 toonincheek // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:00 PM
Too many osters seem to try to fit in AC with Ba and Cisse.
Has anyone worked out how many times this season we have mid-week games and rotation?
Has anyone thought about the inevitable injuries?
Has anyone thought of ACs contibution maybe as a sub, even if Ba and Cisse were to start, when we are ahead, looking to hold our advantage and bully the opposition a bit more, plus ACs defensive capabilities?
Quite apart from offering another style of play, which has its uses in some games.
I don’t see it happening, though.
My valuation would be £13-14 million. I don’t see us offering more, and I don’t see ‘Pool selling for that.
113 Mark29Hungary // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:02 PM
We need a striker in until friday. Carroll would be a good choice but not the only
Berbatov maybe?
and Ed,
I know it’s not the most important thing these days, but Tamas Kadar sing Roda for two years.
Please refresh the table.
114 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:03 PM
Carroll is a poor mans Ibrahimovic IMO like. He is both great in the air and and with his feet
115 ilovetoon8788 // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:04 PM
Fools who think Andy is not good enough. Wth . But I still think we need defenders first priority.
And tiote is definitely leaving. It’s just a matter of if we can get a replacement in. 1 foot out of the door. Destination arsenal.
And Cisse and Ba are strikers that need to be fed. With a completely not match fit out of form cabaye, a holding midfielder in tiote and guti who can only run and track all day long. Of course our strikers are going to look crap. Against Chelsea even with Benzema and Ibrahimovic we were never going to score.
116 toonLYF // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:05 PM
Kets, there’s no way we could get Remy for anything under 15m imo.
117 Transfer Sage // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:07 PM
Big pappa
And we are a poor mans psg
Hence why we sign a lesser player.
118 Munster Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:07 PM
Nico – I agree. Cisse and Ba dont seem to link well , certainly as a twosome up front. Pards may have got that one wrong ….
119 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:08 PM
ilovetoon8788
“Tiote is definitely leaving” What makes you so sure like ? it sounds like you want him to go
120 toonLYF // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:12 PM
like i said before we had kicked a ball this season…to get the most out of our talented strikers, they need to be rotated and put up front, top and centre by themselves infront of benny playing in a free role, he was awesome as a winger last season but imo that was just a good way for him to get back up to speed, he’s flying this season/year and if we give him that free role infront of cabaye/behind ba or cisse, he will be the difference between say, finishing 8th to regaining 5th
i’d start ba against atromitos on thursday, and cisse against villa.
121 Beattie25 // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:14 PM
Has anyone reported that Remy has apparently been put up for sale today?
He was only on the bench over the weekend!
Tottenham will probably get him once the Modric deal goes through but you never know…
122 Ian Toon // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:14 PM
Transfer Sage- your spotting rubbish on Cisse.
Gateshead-Mag- Cisse is amongst the most technically gifted players in European football. Can’t imagine why your being questioned on his technical skills. Pardew has said that Cisse will score goals if chances are created. Posters are overlooking that fitness wise he’s still somewhat short of last season when he scored goals for fun. You can
say that AC, Nolan, Best and Shola lack technical ability but Cisse!!
Don’t confuse a lack of match fitness with a lack of technique.
123 Nufc-83 // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:16 PM
Would have enrique back in an instant would just swallow my pride because he was so good.
124 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:16 PM
Tiote will be here sat morning
125 Brutooon // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:16 PM
17 million for a TRAITOR????????
126 dunzer1990 // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:18 PM
Brutooon
What the hell is your problem?
127 Gateshead-Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:18 PM
ian toon
i dont think its even a question of his fitness, just like you say the only time him (and ba for that matter) have been getting the ball theyve been closer to the half way line than the opposition goal
128 toonLYF // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:19 PM
Pardew i think, will be looking at a 4-4-1-1 at the moment, in order to bring benny into the middle, as we haven’t really got any other good dangerous wingers other than Marv and Benny, so i think maybe this
——————–Krul—————–
Simpson—Taylor—-Coloccini—Santon
Jonas—–Tiote—–Cabaye—-Marveaux
—————-Ben Arfa—————–
—————-Ba/Cisse—————–
Harper
Perch
Williamson
Raylor
Anita
Ba/Cisse
Obertan
this is a realistic one, due to the fact pardew doesn’t like to be too drastic when changing things.
129 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:19 PM
Yeah cisse is the complete forward in my eyes. His ability is right up there like he jus needs to dust his holiday legs off haha
130 Ian Toon // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:20 PM
Transfer Sage-.our even Spouting-LOL. By the way as the number of days to close of window reduces your bound to get one deal right.
How about were going to sign someone by Friday. Or am I being unfair of your knowledge base?
131 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:21 PM
Its fair to call carroll a traitor. Some may not like it but it is justified
132 Zero // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:22 PM
Do you think its p*sses Liverpool off that they spent 35million on AC and Chelsea spent 35 million on Hazard? i know who id rarther have lol
133 dunzer1990 // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:22 PM
I cannot believe the madness that is being touted on this blog today.
AC isn’t good enough, Cisse lacks technique and Tiote is definitely going?
Seriously, it is times like these that I am ashamed of some of my fellow NUFC supporters.
134 yorkshireToon // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:24 PM
An I the only one who thought Anita had a really good game against Chelsea with his passing and tackling, bar the obvious penalty and a couple of misplaced passes
135 Zero // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:24 PM
In all fairness i wouldnt call AC a traitor for leaving, i was a bit annoyed when he dived but i guess he just didnt want to score against us??
We really should thank AC for going since the 35 million has helped overhaul our squad.
136 nick_9 // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:24 PM
For me it’s all about opportunity cost, can anyone see Carroll coming here for less than 13-14 million? I cannot, this for me isn’t good value. Cisse and Ba are ridiculous goal scorers, look at Ba against spurs. Both and great players and we need to create more chances for them. I bet signing an attacking full back and a good winger, with benny moving to ACM would see us get more goals than a third choice ST. We aren’t creating enough for Ba and Cisse at the minute. If we are to play 442 who starts upfront? Web with Carroll I think it has to be cisse and Ba on current form, we should be loyal to them until prolonged bad form dictates otherwise.
We could sign several players for the money quoted for Carroll. Imagine Debuchy/Pieters, Douglas and Rhodes for around £14-£15 million or just Carroll. If Carroll cost 5-7 million then fair enough but when we have a tight/reluctant owner we need to be very wise and spending that amount on one player wouldn’t be wise for me when you look at the bench we had against chelsea
137 dunzer1990 // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:24 PM
AC is a traitor?
The kid was personally taken in MA’s helicopter to Liverpool, his wages were practically tripled and the club got 35million.
Everyone was getting the deal that was right for them so how is it fair to single out AC as a traitor?
Catch yourselves on for christ sake.
138 Nufc-83 // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:25 PM
Can anyone tell me why people think cambell is to raw and not ready for 1st team? If he had made two appearances and looked nervous and lacked confidence e.g. Vuckic i would agree but to me when he has come on he has been a bright spark and looked class. If your good enough your old enough for me get through lad involved.
139 Nufc-83 // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:26 PM
Through = the
140 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:26 PM
Haha rights Zero! One bought a zipping techincal scoring creating winger and the other bought a plank of wood! Sorry to the carroll supporters but it should be obvious by now that I’m not one!
We all have our own opinion’s and I respect other people for supporting him. I’ve said it before that he should be very grateful to you lot
141 Transfer Sage // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:26 PM
Ian
How am I talking rubbish on cisse?
I said he doesn’t run with the ball like aguero and tevez but that he is a very good finisher and sores from anywhere?
Please tell me how that’s rubbish.
142 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:26 PM
Alot of teams are using 4-2-3-1 with a lone striker. Chelsea did it against us and it worked well. I would go for
——————————–Krul——————————–
–Simpson——-Taylor———–Collocini——Santon–
—————–Anita———————Tiote—————–
——–HBA—————Cabaye————Marveaux—-
—————————–Cisse/Ba—————————-
We only have 3 premier league quality strikers so rotation should not be too difficult, although I hope Ba and Cisse can form a deadly partnership and prove me wrong
143 bro56 // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:27 PM
10 mill or nowt, 11-12 at a desperate push. If thats not good enough, fair do, forget it.
we should be concentrating on a decent defender.
He does change a game but we’ve come far since the days of lobbing balls to Carroll
144 GeordieToon89 // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:27 PM
Remy hasn’t been playing because he’s only just returned from a injury sustained before the euro’s think it was a torn groin or some sort of muscle anyways
145 nufc786 // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:28 PM
http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/909811-manchester-city-spurs-and-newcastle-on-alert-after-loic-remys-put-up-for-sale
146 Ian Toon // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:28 PM
pbNel- we’ll it all started against Villa so don’t bet against it not being resumed on Sunday. Cisse is a natural goalscorer and Pardew isn’t looking for much more than goals. His fitness and training was effected by illness during a period of fasting. He thrills in the manner
of Shearer.
147 nick_9 // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:29 PM
Yorkshire I can see Anita has quality, he just needs that awareness of how quick the league is. His passing games looks good and toucan see he is right up there technicially it’s just the awareness of the speed our game is played at here.
Many of you are quick to forget carrolls dive at sjp, I’d that had been given I bet some of yous would think differently. Not for me.
148 dunzer1990 // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:29 PM
Without Andy Carroll we would not have been promoted back to the Premier League, the lad stepped up big style and the money made from his transfer has given us the team that we have currently, the fact that he has also rejected a big money move to West Ham because the only club he wants to move to is us shows that the lad knows he has made a mistake and desperately wants to prove himself to his true supporters and his own true club.
How anyone can ridicule the man is beyond me, at 23 he has shown more courage and professionalism than most of you lot could show in a lifetime.
149 Gateshead-Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:30 PM
ian toon
in all fairness to transfer sage he does seem decent and a regular poster now, when he first came on he seemed like an ‘itk’ doylem but he has changed what he says he doesnt present things as fact just passes on bits of information he hears and says they mite not be spot on, can’t really slate him for that
150 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:30 PM
dunzer1990 I’ve been thru this many times on here my friend. If I were a local lad wearing the newcastle number 9 I would be happy on a hundred pound a week never mind thousands. So even if I were offered 10m more I personally would never leave. Its all a difference of opinion. Plus, pardiola has already clearly stated that andy wanted to leave. He was not forced out
151 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:32 PM
Cos I am a local lad, born and bred and would die for the opportunity big andy had. And even tho he was a complete knacker it really hurt when he left!
And I’m sick of men hurting me hahahahaha (blantant joke btw for the serious heads)
Much love
152 Ketsbaia9 // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:34 PM
Marseille need the cash, so Remy will be available for less than expected.
I also think that we won’t sign anyone until deadline day. Like that bloke said, we’ll be bidding ridiculous amounts for Carroll on deadline day. We’ve done so well in the transfer market and we’ll spoil it, just as we’re on the way to having a near perfect squad
Sod Carroll and go for 3 quality squad players in the positions of RB/LB, CB and Striker.
I can see us not even making another bid for Debuchy.
153 dunzer1990 // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:34 PM
You show me where Pards has said that AC clearly wanted out. Also have you ever considered the fact that Pards may have bent the truth to deflect the backlash off the club and onto AC’s shoulders? Which would only heighten my respect for the man.
And you are not a professional footballer, and neither am I, we cannot fathom the difference of worlds we live in and you can spout my loyal BS all you want but if a club was offering you 3 times what you were earning with the promise of the moon and the stars your head would be turned too, perhaps AC was swayed by the club saying that they could put NUFC on the map again with his transfer fee and he thought he was doing us a service by going.
The point is, none of know what went on and I think you’re out of line by taking the stance he’s a traitor, think that if you want but keep it to yourself.
Not all opinions are worthy of respect.
154 Munster Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:34 PM
I like Carroll. Playing him may alter the type of football we apparently want to play , but he has real physical presence. Maybe even Obertan will improve when he has the incentive of that monster to cross the ball to!
155 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:34 PM
Nufc-83
Its a very big gamble on Campbell like (hey that rhymed
) play him now and he could get bullied by center halfs alot bigger and more experienced than him, loose confidence and fade away into the shadows. The flip side is he is an instant star and will be the new Shearer 
.
Option three is to let him fill out naturally and send him out on loan for a season or two (my choices would be Birmingham or Gateshead) and reap the rewards in the future, he potentially has a 15 year carreer ahed of him at the age of 17
156 Gateshead-Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:35 PM
pbncl
hahahaha its alright mate they hurt me aswell!!
just let it all out uncle gatesheads hear for you
157 Zero // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:35 PM
I dont think people ridicule HIM but we do bark at the fee that Liverpool want for the lad, like i said hes not totally useless and with the right support both team and manager along with the fans im sure hed be a +15 goal a season striker. But ATM not in the future not in the past the lad is crap, and due to this, asking 17million or even the 12million we offered is ridiculous. He wasnt worth the 35 million they paid, and we shouldnt have to help make amends for their mistake in over paying. 17 million would buy Remy or Huntalaar, any of you AC fans out their that can stand and say, well id rarther have AC over either of them really need to give you heads a shake.
158 dunzer1990 // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:35 PM
pbNc1 shows his true colours as someone not worthy of having a serious conversation with.
Time to leave la la land me thinks.
159 Brutooon // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:36 PM
Andy T R A I T O R Carroll
1) wasted the no 9 LEGENDARY shirt. He was trusted and given the no 9 shirt! wear the no 9 shirt and because of GREEDY for money he left for Liverfoool.
2) would liverpool bid back torres? would arsenal go for ashley cole? would gallas go back to arsenal OR chelsea? the answer is NO because we rather give a FIRST CHANCE to someone else then given a 2nd chance to a TRAITOR
3) Andy Carroll wasn’t that good as you guys think! He is same like Emile Heskey and Crouch – maybe even worst than them
4) we could easily got a world class striker with less than price
160 toonLYF // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:37 PM
Newcastle United 6-0 Aston Villa at the weekend.
161 yorkshireToon // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:37 PM
Nick_9 I think he’ll adapt quick enough and look class I no time.
On your thee point I ever ally think be dust ea I score so dived. Web has he ever dived on another occasion?
162 ToonDownSouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:38 PM
ilovetoon
Tiote is definitely leaving? I’d ask for your source, but I have a feeling that you’re just presenting your guesswork as fact…
163 Beattie25 // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:38 PM
Carroll is a bull shit story created by journos to sell papers and trend on social media.
Nufc will not pay that much for him and never will for any player! The only reason I beloved we nodded for him was to spark the interest of other clubs so we could get a percentage.
We will, as always, sign players we have been barely linked with or players we have been linked with for a long period of time.
I expect players like Guidetti, Izaguerre and Tomkins.
164 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:38 PM
dunzer1990 you won’t tell me to keep anything to myself at all unfortunately. You may not respect my opinion and this means absolutely nothing to me, however I will respect yours. No need to get chaffy son
165 Gateshead-Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:38 PM
dunzer
lighten up man hes just having a laugh, or are we incapable of humour on here??
166 Brutooon // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:38 PM
and I am not a fan of shola ameobi,
i rather KEEP playing Shola Ameobi until he is 60 years old than bring back Andy Carroll aka Mr Traitor!
167 Gateshead-Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:39 PM
toonLYF
ill drink to that!!
168 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:40 PM
Hold me uncle gateshead, people are calling me names and my fragile heart cannot take it any more hahaha booooohoooooooo
169 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:42 PM
Nick9
Completly agree about carroll he’s just not value at £17 million, not when remy is apparantly available for around £12-14 mil and even apparantly gamerio for around £9 mil.
Personally i’d rather see the money invested in other area’s of the squad, if carroll could come for a price that actually represented his ability say £10 mil and it didnt mean we couldnt strengthen other areas then yeah why not but tbh really wouldnt be bothered if he didn’t sign
170 Zero // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:42 PM
kets im glad your starting to post more sensible quotes and i noticed you answering some of your critics, keep up the good work and people will start laying off you.
As for Remy being on the cheap, Spurs had a 10million bid rejected and we apparently had a 12 milion bid rejected that they didnt consider serious enough, so i think 15 million would possible get him.
As for not signing Debuchy well im not certain but reports have been floating that we have gone in with a new improved bid. It might be a concerted effort to keep Cabs from moving to aresnal, not that if we didnt sign debs he would leave just i dont think hes been looking as enthuastic as usual since the new season. Let him get his bromance on with debs and we’ll have a cracking season
171 toonLYF // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:42 PM
Gateshead-Mag, it’s been confirmed by a friend i have who is ITK, can’t mention no names but he confirmed this will be the score and Debuchy will score a hattrick.
172 Ian Toon // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:42 PM
Transfer Sage- Don’t go all defensive. Why say he isn’t like so and so
when you can say so and so isn’t like Cisse who is a clinical goalscorer.
It’s like saying Shearer wasn’t like Andy Cole it’s a meaningless point.
Pardew just wants Cisse to get goals and not being overly involved in build up play which is left to others. If you must compare Cisse, do it on a goals per game ratio. As Gateshead said at present Cisse is having to come and fetch because eg Cabaye is not fully match fit- going forward we want Cisse getting on the end of things.
173 Gateshead-Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:43 PM
pbncl
i think transfer deadline week is turning people into monsters
where is the love???
coom by are my lord coom by are!!!!
174 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:45 PM
For me the only formation that can icorporate Ba and Cisse and get the full potential is this
——————————–Krul——————————–
–Debuchy——-Taylor———-Collocini——Santon–
——–Anita—————Cabaye————-Tiote———
——————————–HBA——————————-
——————Cisse———————-Ba——————-
If we get Debuchy we will have width from both fullbacks and Anita & Tiote can cover when they bomb forward. Also HBA’s creativity in the whole will definitely get Ba and Cisse goals
175 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:46 PM
Yeah man, its all about opinion’s and a big fat slice of love cake!!
176 Gateshead-Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:48 PM
big pappa cisse
aye that could work mate, i think theres alot of different senarios that could work, some with 1 striker some with 2, 4 3 3 also, im sure theyl all get looked at
177 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:49 PM
Big Pappa Cissé liked your rhyme before mate I’m into spittin bars an that haha maybe we can gan back to back one time!
Good formation aswell, and there’s always Jonast Jonas who can be rotated with the midfield trio
178 yorkshireToon // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:49 PM
Nick_9 – don’t even try and translate that post!
I said I think he only dived because he didn’t want to score against us, can you name a other occasion where Carroll has dived?
179 toonLYF // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:51 PM
Big Pappa Cisse – like it mate
180 nick_9 // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:51 PM
Big pappis cisse I like that formation and think it could work so long as the three
Midfielders help out once the full backs have bombed forward. Also the full backs would need to get back as soon as possession is lost. You would think the three
Midfielders and two central defenders would
Manage if santon and the right back plodded on. That formation also allows you to take off a DM and put a winger on for 442 or take off a striker for a midfielder to switch to 451. I like it but we would def need the width from the full backs and to ensure we don get caught out with to many players forward
181 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:52 PM
pbNcl
I’ve got rhymes for days
. Thats why they call me big Pappa 
182 nick_9 // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:55 PM
Yorkshire are you using an iPhone by any chance? My posts sometimes appear like that when I’m on mine. I cannot name another time Carroll has dived but I suspected he was trying to get one over on us. It’s hard welcoming back your ex players unless they left on good terms I.e nobby solano. Carroll was a local lad who had the number 9 and all our hopes, the 35 million softened the blow but we never spend big during a window so If we do have 10-15 million available then I think 2 or 3 other players would be a better option.
183 toonLYF // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:56 PM
Big Pappa Cisse – the more i think about the formation, the more i like it, but if benny was injured, it probably wouldn’t be worth using, cause the lack of attacking support on the wings, means the ball will just being going into Ben Arfa in the middle and hoping he can find the room and feed Ba or Cisse, or go for goal himself, as Anita and Tiote would definitely have to stay dropped back strictly, particularly against dangerous counter attacking teams.
184 ToonAndy // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:56 PM
Imagine if Mike Ashley just thought bollocks… Heres 30 million, lets go for it!…
—————————–KRUL————————-
DEBUCHY—-SAYLOR—-COLLO—–SANTON
—————————–TIOTE————————
—————-CABAYE———-GOURCUFF——-
BEN ARFA————————————–REMY
——————————CISSE———————–
BUT REALISTICALLY:
——————————KRUL————————
DEBUCHY—-SAYLOR—–COLLO—–SANTON
——————-TIOTE———-ANITA—————
—————————-CABAYE———————-
BEN ARFA—————————–MARVEAUX
——————————-CISSE———————–
Will do for now i suppose…….. lol
185 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:57 PM
Waheeeeyyyyy like it, I roll with a jungle thing me like dnb all day every day haha sort of givin myself away like here back to the shadows!
I agree with beattie, the whole story is about selling papers and the like
186 Waldo P. Barnstormer // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:00 PM
Ok from a personal point of view, I really really hope this is a frigging joke. Yes I agree we need another striker but Carroll for any more than 10 is far too much. We need a full back and a centre half before anything else.
Right time to read all the comments as it was the headline that caught my eye. And pissed me off straight away
187 breno95 // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:02 PM
AC back for 17m? Quite simply – at that price it’s not going to happen. Now I rate AC and he would strengthen the squad without doubt. He is not just a big lump who gets his head to the ball. The lad is good with the ball at his feet, in the air and he also has defensive qualities. However, if there is that sort of cash to be spent then I would rather see it used to bring 3 players rather than 1. For me to give more strength in depth and a stronger starting 11 I would like to see Pieters, Debuchy and Toulalan brought in. A ST can wait until January. We gave 3 already but young Campbell could get a chance, Obertan could be utilised as a forward as could Sammy Ameobi. Ben Arfa can score goals as will Cabaye if allowed to play his normal game. Reading earlier posts I agree with Beatties formation and line up however he did have M’Villa in but he would simply cost too much hence my proposal of Toulalan who can also play CB. If they came in I think that an 11 to play after the international break could be:-
Krul
Debuchy
Colo
Taylor S
Santon (Pieters once fit)
Anita
Tiote
Toulalan
Cabaye
Ben Arfa
Ba
Subs:-
Elliott
Simpson
Obertan
Marveaux
Cisse
Amilfatano
Reserves still available as part of main 25 man squad will be:-
Harper
Williamson
Perch
Shola
Sammy
Abeid
Bigi
Tav
Good
Vuckic
Campbell
Gosling
Taylor R
They would be my pick and IMO that set up allows for the likes of Cabaye, BenArfa and Ba to really shine and we would have the depth when needed although as I am not in a position to influence or have several millions in the bank I am going to be disappointed but as I posted on Saturday, beat the Greeks on Thursday and follow that up with a win at home to Villa going into the international break will see us in EL group stage and with 2 wins from 1st 3 EPL matches so I won’t be too disappointed if that is to happen.
188 Thump // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:04 PM
Nope.
189 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:08 PM
@ toonLYF
I just feel with that formation HBA will be able to bridge the gap between midfield and upfront as well as Cabye spraying a few pinpoint through balls aswell
190 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:09 PM
Imagine being a defender trying to mark Ba & Cisse with Ben Arfa running full speed at you. Scary stuff
191 yorkshireToon // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:10 PM
Nick_9 – yes I am and I can’t quite bring myself to take autocorrect off even though it makes me look like an idiot every other post!
And I dot have any ill feelings towards him at all I truly think he was forced out for that sort of money but who knows but him and Newcastle?
I do agree I would rather sped 17 mill if we have this money to spend on debuchy, a centre half (not sold on Douglas ever since he said a bigger club is interested) and sag Sinclair for 6 mill.
192 toonLYF // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:12 PM
Breno, Erik Pieters over Santon? Don’t bother yourself with the long post again fella, most people would’ve stopped reading there.
193 bills-son // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:12 PM
AC wants to come back and LPool want to sell. That puts nufc right in the driving seat. Ashley has made an offer which, reading between the lines, is a two million loan fee, thirteen million transfer fee next year plus LPool pay part of his wages whilst on loan. Ashley wants a loan because he wants to spend his transfer budget on other players before Friday, not blow it all on AC now.
I cant see Ashley budging much so the ball is in LPools court. They know it, we know it and AC’s agent knows it. AC will only come if LPool back down. I think its 80% they wont but you never know, if AC kicks up to come back, like he did to leave, it could happen.
194 t00ntime // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:12 PM
@dunzer if carroll was truely loyal he wudnt of left, u say if they offer u the moon and the stars ur head wud be turned…
Tell that to shearer, he got offered everything he wanted from
Man utd, money, trophies, first team football
Yet he rejected them and came to us.
Yes its true that we cant say what we wud of done in carroll’s situation as we have never been offered what he was but if he was loyal he wudnt of left. There are still plenty of players who donr get there head turned by money alone.
I wud take him back as i assume he has learned a lesson the hard way. 90% of the players who left since relegation there carreer has gone downhill
195 Novocastrian66 // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:12 PM
We need more options up front. At the moment there isn’t any competition for Ba and Cisse. They’re automatic choices. This is not good, and please don’t try and tell me Shola is an option.
We need competition to push the current incumbents. Andy Carroll fits the bill as does Remy.
I’m not convinced we will sign anyone though.
196 Santiago Munez // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:13 PM
Wouldnt spend more that 8 mil on carroll. Use that money on remy and bring in a young striker like niang whos the talk of europe and everton may bring in for only 2 mil. with those two we still have enough for debuchy for a total around 17 mil. take those three over carroll any day
197 Ian Toon // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:13 PM
Beattie25- don’t know whether your ITK but interesting concluding comment – almost a throwaway one when you mentioned Tomkins in connection with a signing. We’ve bid for him before, he’s young and currently playing as a DM by Fat Sam but was subbed at weekend not a happy bunny. Lost his place to Collins. Stranger things have happened.
198 Kebabacus // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:14 PM
Geordie-ish 11:
—————-Harper
Dummet–Streete–Saylor–Sameobi
Richardson—Carrick—A.Johnson
—–Campbell–Shola–Carroll
Not too shabby. Anyone I missed? I was thinking of players playing now obviously. Streete is adopted Geordie though I think.
199 toonLYF // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:14 PM
Big Pappa Cisse – that’s what i had in mind mate, it’s a terrifying prospect, and we can have that without signing anybody! Ben Arfa looks better every week, we have probably the most gifted player we’ve ever seen at St James Park in Ben Arfa (not saying he’s the best, but most gifted is hard to argue against)…coming up against defences such as West Hams, Sunderlands, Villas, i’m expecting us to score some goals this season.
200 Santiago Munez // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:15 PM
no chance we would consider this if he wasnt a geordie and if it didnt make fat ash look good getting the player back for half off. dont look at what we got for him, look at what hes actually worth. that said id rather spend 17 mil on carroll than not buy anyone at all
201 swisstone // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:17 PM
I don’t get why some people fantasise based on dreams or rumour.
The facts are pardew has said we will be playing 442. Why do people continue to put 433 or 4212 formations up??
Likewise pardew has said only one more signing, unless someone else leaves. Yet people still think we’ll get debuchy douglass pieters and remy!
My view based on one more coming in is that it will be a young striker, not remy.
Pardew has also said the carroll deal is above his head so i would read into that he is not classing that deal in his one more player comment
202 Transfer Sage // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:18 PM
Ian
That was my initial point, not being defensive.
I was saying cisse wasnt as technical as aguero.
I stand by that point, he isn’t the nimble forward who can beat men with quick, jinking runs.
I never said cisse was bad, he is just wasted when he has to get involved too much. He needs to be able to have the service. Me and Gateshead agreed on that point.
203 Jayden // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:19 PM
Swiss;
Because 4-3-1-2, 4-2-3-1 and 4-3-3 are what should yield the best results.
204 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:20 PM
We played many formations last season swisstone, and to deadly effect. Pardew will switch formations this season also, what he says in the press is er… Deceptive at best haha
205 ToonDownSouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:20 PM
bills-son
Do you really believe we’ll get players ‘over the line’?
206 toonLYF // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:23 PM
swisstone – it’s a blog…where we as newcastle fans come and discuss things that are happening/could happen within our club, there’s no harm in us putting up formations regardless to what Mr Pardew has said. If you don’t like listening to fans opinions on stuff judging by what they’ve seen on the pitch, then maybe this blog isn’t for you mate and you should stick to the official site and just listen to what AP says.
207 GeordieToon89 // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:24 PM
Isn’t Breno the Bayern defender who’s been put in prison for Arson
208 nick_9 // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:26 PM
Ben Arfa for me is the player who is most likely to thread a ball through the eye of a needle for Ba or cisse. If he was to play more central he would be lethal. He embarrassed Chelsea at one point when he fainted and dragged a left footed shot wide.
If we are to sign one player I would be very disappointed and see it as a chance wasted but i think it should probably be a full back who comes in. We all seem set on singing Debuchy because he looks good and is a mate of cabaye. If we cannot get him I would maybe like to see a left footed full back come in so we can alternate full backs as well as wingers.
209 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:27 PM
Transfer Sage wor cisse was heavily involved In a lot of the build up play last season and his touch was very good. Your right in that he aint a tevez or aguero but his style is different. I know you aren’t slating him, but it really suprised me when he came at how much of a very good footballer he is. Not just a finisher. He’s very intelligent on the pitch
210 bills-son // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:28 PM
TDS @ 205 – I think we will see a young striker and possibly Debuchy by Friday.
I actually think our biggest need is a tall dominant creative midfield player. Cabaye is the only creative cm we have and imo he just doesnt impose himself enough in enough games plus if he’s injured we no longer have Guthrie as a stand in.
211 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:29 PM
Ian toon/beattie
I think tomkins is now well off the radar unfortunatly west ham rejected £4 mil and then got the lad signed up on a new 5 year contract they would want a fortune for him to try and recoup some of the millions they have hemorrhaged in the transfer market
212 Ian Toon // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:29 PM
Transfer Sage- were going to have to agree that we disagree on this one. Enjoy your afternoon. HTL .
213 ToonDownSouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:30 PM
bills-son
And how will you feel if we sign no one? :O
I agree about CM, but that can probably wait for now. I’m hoping Abeid can step up, because he’s never failed to impress when given the chance.
214 Jonny // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:30 PM
Why Bid 17 for Carroll when we can do 15 for Remy????
—————————-CABAYE—————————
BEN ARFA————————————–MARVEAUX
——————————REMY—————————–
VIVA LA FRANCAIS!!!
215 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:31 PM
Ben arfa constantly megged chelsea it was unreal. He can actually beat a man at will he must be worth 40m at least. There was one point he was being closed down by two on the left corner of the chelsea box and he he sort of pulled them one way and then -bam- he absolutely done them it was world class just so unreal. Top top boy
216 iggystinger // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:31 PM
———————-Krul
——debuchy–taylor—-colo—–santon
——————tiote——anita——-
——barfa——-cabaye——–ba——-
———————-cisse—–
To me thats a good formation for us to use what do u guys think
217 Beattie25 // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:32 PM
Ha ha
You can tell it’s all gone mad when somebody drops Cisse and Ba!
Ha ha ha
218 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:32 PM
Bills-son
ola toivonen??
But yeah good point i was saying the other fay that was a signing we should be making is cover/competition for cabs because when he’s injured or having a bit of a shocker the whole team looks poor
219 ToonDownSouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:33 PM
It’s strange that everyone is still putting Debuchy in their lineups, given that there’s been no suggestion that we’re in for him for about a month now!
220 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:35 PM
I would rather have Rhys Williams from the Smoggys than Tompkins like. He would be cheaper and can play Dm as well as Cb. Plus he might be mates with Goode
221 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:36 PM
TDS
Didnt L’equipe say yesterday we were going back in with a take it or leave it bid depending on if lille make CL?
222 bob // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:36 PM
What a load of crap Mr Ed prints where does he get these stories from 17 million bid for Carroll Ashely would lay an egg if he spent anything near that amount he’d expect a new team for that price. No its the bargain basement for Pardew!
223 Sazzer // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:37 PM
Stop with this Tiote, Cabaye and Carroll crap. Get out there you lazy journos and get the real inside scoop.
Arsenal will never pay over 15 m £ and we will never sell either Tiote or Cabaye for that price unless they want to leave and has 1 year left on their contract.
Liverpool will never sell Carroll for price we like.
224 toonarmy81 // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:39 PM
Let’s all just hope we get at least 1 defender n a forward signd b4 Friday nite n we don’t lose any top players b4 then either Ashud think every toon fan wud agree with that
225 boater // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:39 PM
The biggest problem I could see against Chelsea (apart from a general lack of spark and Cabaye’s anaemic display) was with the full backs. Santon cutting in on his right every single time is diluting our attacks down that side – Simpson did okay but 4-3-3 necessitates dynamic wing-back types who can whip crosses in on their natural side.
As for Carroll – I hope not. Couldn’t care less if he deserted or not – he is not as good as our current strikers- and despite the mad comments on here about a ‘plan b’ – you don’t pay £17m for someone to play the odd european/cup game, he WILL play when fit at the expense of a more technical-rounded forward which is frankly insane.
One last bugbear is people putting Marveaux in their starting team sheets – he has shown glimpses of great technique but nowhere near enough to displace our tried and tested midfielders.
226 ToonDownSouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:39 PM
tads
L’equipe claimed we’d signed him about 5 times though – they’re beginning to appear as reliable as the British red-tops ;/
227 Billythefish // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:40 PM
Carroll, debuchy and another. We will defo sign 2 players maybe 3 if things go well.
228 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:41 PM
Wahey! Its bob! Just the character on a dull hungover monday! What’s your take on the toon the day fella?
229 check the toastie // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:41 PM
Bills son – hope so but cant see it, and if we do eventually sign debuchy somebody should come out and explain exactly why he wasnt signed 6 weeks ago, fcuking tight shits.
230 ToonDownSouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:42 PM
boater
Hey, good to see you posting – even if it is just a one off. Santon’s cutting in has become predictable.
Last season it mixed things up a bit, but Ivanovic had him in his pocket and tackled him with ease nearly every time.
231 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:43 PM
Bob you are an absolute tool like. For the last time go to nufc.co.uk if you want official news this is a fans blog and if you dont like the content then p*ss off, you never contribute to begin with you just slate Ed’s articles every now and again. Grow up you sadcase
232 Transfer Sage // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:43 PM
Ian
No problem. Football is all about opinions.
We can agree that cisse is a very good striker regardless
233 ToonDownSouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:44 PM
check
That’s a bit harsh, given that we don’t know the details. Both Pardew and Debuchy have spoken about Lille moving the goal posts numerous times.
234 No Plain Saylor // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:46 PM
Haven’t posted in a while but I would be absolutely fuming if we waste £17m on carroll. I wouldnt mind him back but he wouldn’t start imo and he’s a step backwards, an expensive one at that.
Here’s the players I would have been interested in that moved club this summer so we’re obviously available, all fit the bill with talent, their age and price.
Aly cissokho £4.5m
Christian zapata £3m
Scott sinclair £5.2m or luciano narsingh £3m or elarjo elia £3.8m
We could have brought in a top class fb, cb and winger for £11.3m! But I wouldn’t be suprised if we bid £17m for this donkey. We’d still have enough left over for guidetti or gameiro as well. I think our club is really well run but this transfer window has been a joke, if ever there was a time to show ambition, fair enough if we didn’t sign these players bexause we weren’t goin to spend but now we may spend over that amoilunt on one player who wouldn’t get into the starting eleven.
# let down bigtime this window and fear a bad shock before Friday 11 p.m
235 Rotonda heights // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:47 PM
dunzer
would that courage and professionalism be hitting women, falling off bar stools and allegedly having your new manager in a headlock?
236 Sholadona // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:48 PM
@TDS and Boater One thing I’ve seen Santon stop doing since last season is keeping his hands behind his back when players are trying to cut inside, however I do agree he does need some work.
237 bills-son // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:49 PM
TDS – if we dont sign another player i’ll be surprised and disappointed. I think the club are very particular in who they sign and what they will pay in fees and wages. Its great when it works and frustrating for us fans when it doesnt. However, Ashley has a plan and he’s obviously sticking to it. That plan has served us well for three years and I dont believe any fan can complain about where we are now as a club compared to when we got relegated. We are imo in the best shape we’ve been in since the mid 90′s if not better.
238 bob // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:49 PM
Against chelsea they never like conceding a goal our midfield looked like little kids compared to there’s HBA is as good as hazard but doesnt have the same calibre players around him Ba and cisse didnt have one decent cross all match as down the right side simpsons not up to the job of wingback which makes the side look unbalanced.
239 ToonDownSouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:52 PM
Why would Sinclair suddenly decide to bail on Manchester City, and sign for Newcastle instead?
Come on guys…
240 Sazzer // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:52 PM
Just waiting for the headline. Newcastle increase their bid to 35 m £. It will come on deadline day.
241 bob // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:54 PM
Big Pappa Cissé you are daft twat who needs to read fictious paper talk to get a hard on.
242 GeordieToon89 // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:54 PM
Not hear the commentators talking about Ben Arfa? Were saying “He’s got such magical feet with immense control while running at a high speed, truly amazing player”
Can’t remember what channel I was watching it on mine some foreign one
243 ToonDownSouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:57 PM
BPC
Just ignore him! He’s made it quite clear on many occasionas that he’s not actually a Newcastle fan, and is solely here to wind people up. Why give him the satisfaction?
244 couchy-spennymoor-mags // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:57 PM
Personally I think we need to forget Carroll and go for loic remy before spurs go for him. He would give more attacking options than Carroll. This guy can play out on right wing, not slating Jonas,but we need a right winger who can beat defenders,cross a ball and score for fun. Better value for money!! And u think of hba,cisse,ba,remy in attack I think this could make a deadly combination. What do u think??
245 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 2:59 PM
Palatable post. Your not feeling the current side then bob? You not think we got fire fi dem haha? Cabaye ben arfa and guti aint kids man and anita has played very well upon his arrival. Already boasted his fitness by playing two 90min games in two different countries thurs and sat. Chelsea will steamroller a lot of sides in the next few months. They would have felt the strain of battle after that game, they will respect us
246 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:00 PM
Bob
I dont want Carroll back you mong. You are slating a blog and then commenting on it. If transfer stories get you this wound up come back when the window shuts, common sense dont you think. What a loser
247 bob // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:01 PM
ToonDownSouth blow hard who are you to say im not a toon fan just because i dont buy into this crap that gets peddlad on here most of these on here have never been to St james so belt up!
248 Sholadona // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:04 PM
QPR offer Joey Barton a free transfer. Oh Joey…
249 couchy-spennymoor-mags // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:04 PM
Remy over ac all day long!!
More attacking prowess,can play on right wing or up top. Better value for money for me.
Imagine hba,remy,ba cisse LETHA
What u guys think??
250 bob // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:04 PM
pbNcl You could do with some english lessons before you start blurting on about football you twonk!
251 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:05 PM
Newcastle united welcome supporters from all over the globe regardless of ability to make it the stadium or not
252 breno95 // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:05 PM
@ToonLyf
It’s an opinion only. Not asking you to agree but rather than telling me not to bother posting my opinion explain your reasoning.
Good teams are built on a good defence and proved over many a year. To me Pieters is a better defender. Santon is good and has the potential to develop into an excellent player and he forms part of a very good squad.
However, we can only use this blog to post opinion as in reality no one on here knows who is going to come in and when. All sources come from the media and then we comment expressing a view.
To GeordieToon89 – we do have the Internet in prison!
253 ToonDownSouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:06 PM
bob
You spent months trolling the blog under a variety of user names. You constantly bash the players, the managers and the owners. You slate the club, and constantly went on about how we’re not the biggest club in the north east.
I drew a fairly natural conclusion.
254 nufc7lad // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:07 PM
Carroll will only be a good deal at £8m. FACT. His goal record in the league for liverpool is one goal every 7 games!! which is awful, Shola Ameobi has a better goal record then that. His price would be £8m coz he is a regular englan international now, has a lot years left on his contract and has his best years ahead of him and he is english
255 Sholadona // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:08 PM
bob
How did you do on your GCSE’s this year? Or was it your SAT’s?
256 Gateshead-Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:08 PM
hahahahaha
bob is back, sad little man but hey it brightens the place up
bob bob bob bob
257 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:08 PM
Bob you say I need english lessons and then come out with the word twonk
My command of the english language is far superior to your basic understanding little man haha. Your a crease you, like a cartoon who pops up on the page and gives you a laugh. Cheers man
258 Sholadona // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:09 PM
@Gateshead
Just have to wait for ted, bill and eric now…
259 steveno7 // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:10 PM
@bob
who the hell are to judge everyone .how do u know who on here goes to sjp.
U need to shut the hell up or i may track u down and do it for u .
260 Dannyo // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:11 PM
I think bob must be Joey Barton….
Who btw is being offered on a free by QPR.
Flippin hillarious, i cannot stand the man.
261 bob // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:11 PM
ToonDownSouth Pity you dont draw some conclusions about some of the tripe that gets put on here concerning transfers!
262 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:11 PM
Bob bob big bob bobbydy bob bob haha
263 ToonDownSouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:12 PM
bob
I simply choose to ignore it… It’s not hard.
264 GeordieToon89 // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:12 PM
Breno95 – Sorry I never noticed your name ha, I genuinely thought someone mentioned that we try sign Breno the footballer lmao, I do apologise if any offence has been caused mate
265 couchy-spennymoor-mags // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:12 PM
Remy over Carroll all day long!!
This lad offers a lot more in attack as he can play as a right winger or up top! Not slating Jonas but we need a right winger that can cross a decent ball into box and score more goals! As u saw agains Chelsea we lacked service for our frontmen.
Think hba,remy,ba and cisse would be lethal!! What u guys think???
266 valle // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:13 PM
Bob repeat this “Sunderland are a truly sh*t team with a dinosaur of a manager who cant scout nothing but the teams he play. Sunderland are, and always will be in the shadow of Newcastle” scum supporter, so envious of NUFC that you actually dedicate your life to trolling a NUFC blog just to channel that envy and bitterness you feel… Sad, sad person.
267 bob // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:13 PM
pbNcl Im glad you have a grasp of english i just thought you were thick or a retard
268 couchy-spennymoor-mags // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:13 PM
Remy over Carroll all day long!!
This lad offers a lot more in attack as he can play as a right winger or up top! Not slating Jonas but we need a right winger that can cross a decent ball into box and score more goals! As u saw agains Chelsea we lacked service for our frontmen!
269 toonLYF // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:14 PM
breno, it’s not mate, it’s fact, Santon is a better player than Pieters. Anyone with any footballing knowledge or credibility will tell you the same. Don’t stop commenting, that was out of line, i admit, but it’s just not true. How much have you watched Pieters? He is extremely average, his defending isn’t that much better than Simpson’s, and he also offers almost nothing going forward (probably as much as Simpson). Would be a waste of 4-5m to sign him, Santon is far superior with twice the amount of potential AND younger!
270 couchy-spennymoor-mags // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:14 PM
Remy over Carroll all day long!!
This lad offers a lot more in attack as he can play as a right winger or up top! Not slating Jonas but we need a right winger that can cross a decent ball into box and score more goals!
271 Sholadona // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:15 PM
@Dannyo the problem is he feels he is one of the best players in the world and needs to be catered to by his club. Then when they don’t he takes a huff. He needs to get off his Twitter!
272 Gateshead-Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:15 PM
dannyo
joey loves us fans man, bob obviously lives in chester lea street or some other no mans land, the makems dont want him and the toon dont want him so hes trapped in a cycle of trolling blog to blog, a miss fit of society
please dont mock him, pitty him, and donate the small some of 2 pounds a week to sponsor an identity for bob, i mean eric……no yes bob
273 couchy-spennymoor-mags // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:15 PM
Remy over Carroll all day long!!
This lad offers a lot more in attack as he can play as a right winger or up top! Not slating Jonas but we need a good crosser and more goals from mf
274 breno95 // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:17 PM
&GeordieToon89
None taken. I too would have laughed at someone suggesting Breno as a potential signing.
Leaving for a bit now as all talk of football has gone and unfortunately the posts are descending into rubbish – cheers Bob??????
275 bob // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:17 PM
Valle say you love Ashely and believe he will spend big
276 Munster Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:17 PM
Bills-son, nice to see you would be as frustrated as me if we dont get at least one more player in. I think it will be Debuchy, and no more. I dont feel that this progresses things significantly though, and would see this window as a missed opportunity. I would also wonder why we didnt get Dubuchy in earlier, and settled sooner , but I assume this is a price issue. I’m beginning to think that we should get Santon over to the left and play Anita or a new signing at left back. Santon continues to disappoint defensively, as he has done since he arrived. Excellent in other ways though. We may be on a 5 year plan, but two good players in the Anita mould would not risk the financial status of the club. Here’s hoping, but my worry is that we have had all summer to do this……
277 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:17 PM
Thanks for your concern bob, na I can speak the queens I’m jus partial to slip into the odd bit of slang haha. Used to drive me ma crazy ”speak the queens english she would say” but there you go
What you rekon against this greece side on thurs and villa? I can see 6 points myself. Not be easy but I think we will find our groove before the international break. We did quite a bit before breaks last year! Pardew time!!
278 Sholadona // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:18 PM
Joey bob-ton
279 bob // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:22 PM
pbNcl Queen being the right word sailor!
280 Beattie25 // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:23 PM
Apparently Southampton have made a £5 million bid for Nicolai Boiesen of Ajax.
He’s a 20 year old LB we’ve been linked with in the past, surely we should get some of thataction?!
281 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:23 PM
Bob/billy/eric/ted
Oh dear thought you had left for good ya miserable b@stard, oh and dont call ppl retards puts you at the same level as that stupid little cnut hatembenfarta mocking the paraolympics just makes you look a right tw@
282 bob // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:25 PM
281 toonarmydownsouth Go on hero biting like a bitch on heat come on!
283 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:25 PM
Beattie
Supposedly one of the highest rated young fullbacks in europe, but we dont need him we have santoon!
284 Dannyo // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:25 PM
Oh Bobs a mackem and we all know it. Where’s my flyswatter?
Barton only cares about himself. He contradicts himself all the time but he does not see it.
Barton needs proffesional help.
Many say he’s “gotten his act together”. 12 match ban, rants on twitter, two free transfers from 2 different clubs in the course of a year.
Sometimes words can hurt more than punches u know.
The lads no better than Nile Ranger in my mind.
285 Beattie25 // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:26 PM
Boilesen
The guys a left footed Santon!
20 year old!!!
Sign him up!!!!
286 bob // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:27 PM
Dannyos a smoggie
287 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:28 PM
Ah bless ya bob anything for a little bit of attention eh lad?
Dont worry princess when your step dad and his mates get back from the job centre im sure they’ll give ya plenty of love
288 Beattie25 // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:28 PM
TADS
The lad is really good. Defensivley very sound, tall, rangey, pacey, loves getting forward.
If he is going for £5 million he represents much, MUCH better value than Debuchy.
289 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:29 PM
If you have a scan thru most of my posts bob sir, you will observe I have not graced any capital letters where normally appropriate. Bar the automatic one after a full stop. So mrs queen don’t get one either, unless she donates all of her money to good causes haha, hope you got humour in there fella
If there’s any chance of getting this remy lad in then I would jump at it
290 bob // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:30 PM
287 toonarmydownsouth Are you looking for a carer to push you to the shops?
291 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:30 PM
Beattie
Good point shift santon to rb and have to of the most promising FBs in europe hammering the wings!
292 couchy-spennymoor-mags // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:31 PM
Remy over carroll all day long ???
293 Gateshead-Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:32 PM
hey bob!!
where is the love??
294 Dannyo // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:32 PM
NOW u all want to switch Santon to RB.
Where were u guys a month ago when i argumented that and the need of a natural LB instead?
295 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:34 PM
Bob
Is that all you got? Is that really what your trying to pass off as craic? Weak fella seriously weak poor little mackems with ya shite one liners!
From what i remember bob last time you were on here you passing your self off as a 70 yr old dock worker, think the truth is your a 7 yr old cock worker
296 bob // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:34 PM
Gateshead-Mag I heretoonarmydownsouth gives love for a tenner
297 Indian Magpie // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:34 PM
Bob
dont get wound up.
298 Beattie25 // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:35 PM
TADS
It would be an absoloute dream. They are like moulds of each other. For £5 million? Thats a great deal and again it would solve the whole left footed FB conundrum.
Like you have said 2 of Europes most promising FB’s is a veryexciting propisition. We were linked with Boilesen not to long ago aswell.
Under the radar, steal him from Southampton, FB sorted.
That would be superb.
299 gaz 44 // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:36 PM
im personally worried santon won’t live up to his potential.. Debuchy is almost a certainty now from What i been hearing and simo off to reading..
300 Indian Magpie // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:36 PM
Bob
TADS, is a passionate NUFC fan, from your previous excursions thinks you are a mackem, just prove him wrong
301 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:36 PM
I’d keep santon where he is and can’t actually see him shifting wings, was saying this near the end of the full on war about this on here a while ago haha
302 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:37 PM
Dannyo
Surely it depends on if we buy a lb or a rb? Personally im more than happy with santon at lb but if we bought a lb i.e pieters or boilessen it wouldnt be a bad shout with santon at lb,
I still think pieters is on the cards seeing how often pards tried santon at rb duting pre season
303 charlee71 // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:37 PM
Bob
You are such a cock
304 bob // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:39 PM
charlee71 You mean big cock please get the adjective in
305 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:39 PM
Beattie
It would be fantastic tbf we would be a real attacking force!
Although you have to say fair play to southampton they have shown a real determination in there transfer targets
306 Hencha Boii // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:41 PM
Bob is it true your Nana gets bullied at bingo?
307 Dannyo // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:41 PM
@tads
I just think buying an LB is much more benefitial when coming to coverage mate.
Ferguson can’t seem to stay fit for more than 15 minutes these days, which is a damn shame
308 bob // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:43 PM
Hencha Boii that patters crap who has a nana?
309 iggystinger // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:43 PM
Iv said from the start about santon playin at right back as we have no left back to me that and a centre back,striker is a must
310 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:43 PM
Dannyo
Aye its a fair point poor fergie seems a wee bit injury prone just like harris!
311 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:46 PM
Bob
When you have fcuk all in the way of come backs you cant start knocing other ppls patter ya SMB
312 bob // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:50 PM
311 toonarmydownsouth Have you been on the steroids your patters lifting you dont have a clue about football you southern knob trying to be a Geordie what a mess!
313 couchy-spennymoor-mags // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:51 PM
I just read about pardew saying it was unfair to have played the Chelsea game 2 days after uafa cup game,but that’s football and if we are going to be in Europe we need to get used to this! Besides these players get paid enough to cope with these games.
314 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:53 PM
Hahahahahahahha nana’s gettin bullied at bingo!!! That’s proper mad that like
315 check the toastie // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:54 PM
Anybody got any rumours, i have heard Grant Hanley might be signing from Blackburn, what do you reckon.
316 leavemyarselona // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:55 PM
Gateshead mag ,,,, im from chester le street please dont mock that
317 Indian Magpie // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:55 PM
Chelsea played 3 games in 6 days, is that fair or unfair
318 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:56 PM
Bob
How do you know what i know about football ya silly little tool? Have you ever even posted anything to do with footie? Nah? Yeah didnt think so, its probably best if you get back diwn in your mams basement now you dont want to get another beating from nana when she gets home upset from the bingo
319 lesh // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:56 PM
And another daft one to add to the mix!
http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/120827/newcastle-face-fight-sign-dutch-defender-179605
320 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:57 PM
Here this little bob fella’s got a gob on him like. What’s the matter boy? You angry inside and want to fight but can’t do it outside so get in a mood over your keyboard? Its football in here wor kid, newcastle related. What’s your beef? Go and see a therapist if ya unwell but your just a minor irritation in here and that’s all. Your response is so full of angst, juuuusssss chillllllllll
321 Gateshead-Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 3:59 PM
leavemyarselona
i was taking the p*** out of bob not chester lea
street mate, like a said i know its half and half over your way
322 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 4:00 PM
Lesh
We were heavily linked with him before anita signed but apparantly his wages demands were huge!
Check
Hanley is not a bad youngster although if we were raiding blackburn id rather it was for nzonzi or olsson!
Gonna go a bit kets now bout i would of loved to sign romain hamouma fron SM caen but he gone to st. ettien
323 toonLYF // Aug 27, 2012 at 4:00 PM
i fcuking hate Joey Barton like, if he cared as much about playing football as he says he does, he would’ve kept his head down and his fingers off his keyboard. Basically he could’ve gave the press no fuel to slate him. Man’s an idiot, i never supported his antics when he was here, and IMO, he shouldn’t ever play for a football team ever again. He goes on like he’s this omnipotent yet down to earth, voice of the youth guy, but really he’s just a pretentious rich boy with very little to say, that’s worth hearing.
324 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 4:02 PM
Nana gettin back upset from the bingo!! This stuff is killing me!! Creased!
325 Indian Magpie // Aug 27, 2012 at 4:02 PM
Durham CCC Play cricket at Chester le street
326 Gateshead-Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 4:04 PM
indian magpie
fountain of knowledge as always
327 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 4:04 PM
ToonLYF
Agree did you see that interview with him sone1 posted last night? Basically having a pop at ashley for trying to make him sign a new contract on less money while he was in prison and was actually makin out like he was the victim! Blokes an idiot
328 eaststandgeordie1982 // Aug 27, 2012 at 4:05 PM
I see its bob’s turn tonite
329 magpiebop // Aug 27, 2012 at 4:05 PM
17m means we could buy Andy Carroll twice wii the money we got for Andy Carroll
330 Gateshead-Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 4:07 PM
magpie bop
now that would be good buisness
331 toonLYF // Aug 27, 2012 at 4:07 PM
aye i did, he loves the controversy, yet goes on like he’s being wronged. If the paps left him alone for a week he would be shaking like a man in rehab.
HATE him.
332 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 4:09 PM
Barton is a strange one for me like. He played his ar5e off for us and I respect that. I respect him more than carroll cos at least barton was sparkin out men, but still he’s a bit of a clown unfortunately. Bit like ranger but barton aint all mouth. He needs to buckle down like he did for us cos its a greater shame if barton were to completely fcuk himself up
333 davybtoon // Aug 27, 2012 at 4:10 PM
4days 6hours n 50mins to sign someone
334 toonLYF // Aug 27, 2012 at 4:12 PM
pbNcl – Carroll isn’t half the prick that Barton is. Think about it.
335 NUFC FOR SALE // Aug 27, 2012 at 4:12 PM
Bob can’t be red and white he refers to our ground as St James park and Amy brain dead Dole scrounging inbred mackam would bleat on about sports direct arena blah blah…..at least the sports direct arena has decent drainage.
Don’t get worried about transfers boys we held back last window and when everyone else was spent up we got cisse for 8 million.
stupid f**k wit makams have paid as much for Fletcher as we paid for cisse, cabaye ha ha ha
336 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 4:12 PM
ToonLYF
Yeah the blokes a numptey i fully expect the same interview but about the QPR owners in a months time
337 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 4:17 PM
I dunno like. Hmmm. Okay ill concede that barton has worked his ticket more than carroll. I’m thinking mc donaldsone night and a cigar another time
338 magpiebop // Aug 27, 2012 at 4:19 PM
Love the cat and mouse chase for players in the transfer window. A bit poker face and not show yer hand too early. Got a good feeling for this week. I think we’ll make them offers they can’t refuse!
339 darrenfletcher88 // Aug 27, 2012 at 4:22 PM
Any news boys?? Any more info on big andy??
340 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 4:24 PM
Darrenfletcher
Only that he continues to split opinion and apparantly put brendan rodgers in a headlock
341 darrenfletcher88 // Aug 27, 2012 at 4:26 PM
What u shitting me??
342 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 4:26 PM
If he ends up coming ill eat my hat. I agree with beattie earlier on that its all just a hype thing, paper media talkin to strum up attention up north or some 5hit. But I appreciate the lads wanting him back
343 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 4:28 PM
Darren
Apparantly they had a bit of a barny during training
344 ppb // Aug 27, 2012 at 4:30 PM
if we really want Carroll i trust the judgement of our staff.
i see bob has returned (groan)
345 magpiebop // Aug 27, 2012 at 4:33 PM
bob the unwashed
346 eaststandgeordie1982 // Aug 27, 2012 at 4:35 PM
Tads
What happened??
347 Shane // Aug 27, 2012 at 4:37 PM
Debuchy and Remy through the door and no outgoings would be one hell of a window.
But I can’t help but think we all need to be ready for that horrible moment on Friday when we receive a very large offer for one of our stars and accept it. HBA? Cabs? Mr T? Cisse!?
One thing I do know from supporting the toon, there will be drama. Believe me, there will be drama.
348 ToonDownSouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 4:37 PM
If Carroll had a fight with Rodgers in training, would he really have played him yesterday?
Where does this nonsense come from?
349 Toon_boy89 // Aug 27, 2012 at 4:42 PM
Liverpool lining up huntelaar as Carrolls replacement sod Andy Carroll we should go for him instead
350 couchy-spennymoor-mags // Aug 27, 2012 at 4:45 PM
I think Rodgers had bitch slapped Carroll and was yanking on his ponytail so he got him in a headlock and they reckon Suarez then sunk his horse teeth into Rodgers wrist
351 Grafton83 // Aug 27, 2012 at 4:47 PM
This sounds encouraging 15m is what has been quoted to us along with spuds and city:
http://nothingbutnewcastle.com/2012/08/blogs/premier-league-trio-invited-to-make-15m-bid?
I’d still prefer Caroll even at 17m, I think people forget just how good he is when he’s on form he’s an absolute menace upfront.
Anyway i’m 99% certain that we won’t be making anymore signings. I just can’t see us buying a defender, Mike probably thinks we have enough of them already, same for midfeild and there’s noway we’ll offer over 12m for a striker which rules out anyone worth having as far as I can tell.
352 check the toastie // Aug 27, 2012 at 4:48 PM
Andy Carroll will stay at Liverpool and continue to prove to be a distraction to Brendan Rodgers, this is all good, his value will slowly decline the less football he gets, Liverpool know this, Ashley knows this, the ball is in their court as he only wants to come back here. Maybe returns in January or next summer once Ba or Cisse leaves. Then Pardiola can focus on knocking those long diagonals onto Andy’s head.
I did say in the summer i would have swapped Ba for Carroll and got slated, still would, this is because i think we should play one striker with Benny in behind, Ba seems to be calling a few of the shots, for me prefer Cisse greatly over Ba, would do a swap while the going is good for Ba.
353 Dannyo // Aug 27, 2012 at 4:49 PM
One of the transfers i really wouldn’t have connected this summer is Moses to Chelsea, and it’s a daft ammount too. Well done Whelan, lol.
I predict a benchwarming career with them tho. Look who he has to get passed. Does he have that kind of quality?
354 Novocastrian66 // Aug 27, 2012 at 4:49 PM
If Borini gets a game ahead of Carroll does that make Carroll worth less than £9m?
Just a thought.
355 pbNcl // Aug 27, 2012 at 4:50 PM
And horse teeth proper fcuk you up man!
356 Zero // Aug 27, 2012 at 4:53 PM
I decided to have a look on eurosports transfer window live thingy, what the hell makes people think that Tiote or Cabaye will be let go for 15million, didnt we refuse a bid from chelsea of 20 million for tiote in the last transfer window?
357 couchy-spennymoor-mags // Aug 27, 2012 at 4:58 PM
They reckon he had to by airlifted to Liverpool a&e for a local tetanus. According to sky sources the reckon he may amputate the arm
358 Grafton83 // Aug 27, 2012 at 4:58 PM
Didn’t Pards say we were more likely to bring in a younger striker, Jordan Rhodes 4-5m anyone?
359 Novocastrian66 // Aug 27, 2012 at 4:58 PM
Zero. Now way we will sell for less than £20m. Arsenal won’t pay that much for either Tiote or Cabaye. Man City, Chelsea and Man U don’t need them. Who else has got that type of wedge to weigh out on them?
QPR?
360 couchy-spennymoor-mags // Aug 27, 2012 at 5:01 PM
Grafton
I think Rhodes maybe worth a gamble! Young and a very decent striker! Me personally I would pay the extra 3,4 million and go for remy or gameiro??
361 Zero // Aug 27, 2012 at 5:03 PM
Novo i honestly am gettting sick of this southern press BS, it was from the same newspaper that printed Arsenal lodging bid for tiote a matter of hours before Arsene came out and said Tiote was not going to be an Arsenal player, it just seems to me the newspaper then went.. crap who else have newcastle got ah cabaye he’ll do then released Arsenal lodging bid for cabaye lol
362 Grafton83 // Aug 27, 2012 at 5:07 PM
What ever happens I can’t even think about doing any work until the window closes. It’s a full time job hitting refresh on here and newsnow.
363 ppb // Aug 27, 2012 at 5:08 PM
@zero my hero i agree the southern press kissing London teams asses and stirring crap up north. its despicable but sells papers i suppose
364 darrenfletcher88 // Aug 27, 2012 at 5:10 PM
Makes me sick when I see other top 6 teams on skysports spending up wards off 20 mill.am not saying we need to spend spend spend, but I think we need abit off money spend on that extra quality.
365 Novocastrian66 // Aug 27, 2012 at 5:11 PM
Aye, know what you’re saying Zero. The fact that the fee mentioned is £15m suggests there is no substance to the stories.
Perhaps Wenger made an enquiry and was quoted a price in excess of £20m by Newcastle, hence his statement that Tiote would not be signing for Arsenal?
We’ll never know. I hope!
366 couchy-spennymoor-mags // Aug 27, 2012 at 5:15 PM
If we are willing to let either cabaye or tiote go,god forbid… I would rather we did swap deals for other quality players. Rather than see mike Ashleys bank account increase any further. For instance if man city came for tiote then we should say we would only swap for de Jong and dzeko. That way we lose a quality player but gain quality,rather than Ashley have more in his mince pie fund:) ???
367 GeordieToon89 // Aug 27, 2012 at 5:19 PM
People seem to be forgetting how good Carroll was for us and we didnt play the long ball all the time, he’s a good ball and link up player aswell, we could still let Cabaye and Ben Arfa do there thing and then Carroll/Ba/Cisse would be literally smashing the goals in, we’re the type of team and setup which will really get the best out of him again and get him firing for a couple seasons and Man City will want him for £50million and even if they dont weve still made £18million from him ha
368 nufc90 // Aug 27, 2012 at 5:20 PM
Wengers never paid over 20m in his life for a player and he won’t start now. The arsenal board won’t let him anyway. My mates an arsenal fan and even he’s laughing at the BS the papers are printing.
Think it’s unlikely we’ll buy anyone unless someone leaves or Lille get knocked out CL/Liverpool crumble over Carroll. Like Carr said before the window we have targets and a set price to pay for them, if it doesn’t come off we try again later like with Cisse
369 Zero // Aug 27, 2012 at 5:22 PM
Carrol wasnt that good FFS he wasnt even the top scorer in the Championship, if he had completed the EPL season with us defenders would be onto him and the way he played, simply pushing him out of the game. This is what happened at Liverpool, ive seen him get knocked on his ass more times than hes scored!
370 ppb // Aug 27, 2012 at 5:23 PM
@couchy mike ashleys bank account? ok
371 toonLYF // Aug 27, 2012 at 5:24 PM
god bless Arsenal like tbh, would love to see them win something this year, as long as it’s at the cost of City/United/Chelsea and not us.
372 t00ntime // Aug 27, 2012 at 5:27 PM
Dont know if its been mentioned before, but am i the only one who thinks we need a quick skill full striker like ageuro/tevez/hernandez/suarez/remy etc. We have 2 strikers who basically want the same thing, service and they finish. If we bring in carroll we wud have 3 finishing strikers and 0creating :S not saying ba and cisse are bad its just in games like agaimst chelsea where we cudnt find space we had to rely on ben arfa, and when he got passed players there was still no one open. If had lets say remy, he wud distract defenders giving ben arfa a shooting chance or cisse more space and we wud of created more chances
Also with ben arfa and a creator there wud be more space all the time giving both strikers more chances
Or am i talking non sense
373 ppb // Aug 27, 2012 at 5:28 PM
@couchy and the problem with your idea is that de jong and dzeko would have rather high wages.
i don’t think your idea is that feasible and the reasoning behind it is ludicrous. since when do our transfer fees go into mikes account?
374 Rotonda heights // Aug 27, 2012 at 5:33 PM
I think we must be the only club in the world who could have been lucky enouh to get 35M, sign Ba and Cisse for 9m , finish 5th and still want to go back to carroll because he’s a geordie and supposedly offers another option to Ba as a target man, when we really need a quick skilful prolific striker (not 6 goals in 42). That would a be a different option. It really beggars belief.
I thought finishing 5th and buying players like cabaye was the way we were evolving in to a footballing passing team. Pardew eiher found or stumbled on the 433 and the rest was history. Now people and Pardew it seems wants 442 again and carrol because what?, Carroll may jump 2 inches taller than Ba and we may get a few more hopeful flick ons?
I thought we were becoming more Barcelona (ie Cisse’s goal v Stoke) but some people it seems would rather we were Stoke.
375 Zero // Aug 27, 2012 at 5:34 PM
t00ntime no people have been stating the obvious of switching back to a 4-3-3 formation with a new striker out on the wing up front to slip inside and wreak havoc, someone like Remy, Guidetti, Toivonen or even a slammer like huntalaar
376 Rotonda heights // Aug 27, 2012 at 5:35 PM
toontime
no you’re not
377 toon smart // Aug 27, 2012 at 5:36 PM
I see Erik Pieters has been given the all clear to return to full training. He hass even put the x-ray of his foot on twitter!
378 couchy-spennymoor-mags // Aug 27, 2012 at 5:37 PM
Toontime
Yes I totally agree with you,I’ve said all along that should be the plan. I think if we had remy it would give us the extra dimension in our play. By playing remy on the right side and hba on left,it takes defenders away from ba,cisse to allow them to get in the positions to score more goals. These two would be lethal down the wings and scare the 5hite out of the best defenders. Plus remy can play up front aswell. That’s why I think he a far better option than Carroll!
379 Zero // Aug 27, 2012 at 5:37 PM
Ask him on twitter if hes coming to NUFC now lol
380 ppb // Aug 27, 2012 at 5:39 PM
@rotonda i think its less hat people wanna see stoke and more that they are trying to see the positives of Andy Carroll i
381 JackButler // Aug 27, 2012 at 5:42 PM
I love the fact we are being linked with a 17 million pound move for Carroll when for that we can get three defenders in who would make the world of difference to our squad. A striker would be nice but defenders are a must
382 geordiemacc // Aug 27, 2012 at 5:43 PM
It’s been reported in the papers that Liverpool are loathe to do business with Newcastle, because we sold them Andy caroll for a ridiculous fee. I suppose It’s our fault they massively overpaid for Jordan Henderson and downing. The money for torres was burning a hole in dalglish pocket and he made an offer fat mike couldn’t refuse. If caroll is surplus to liverpools needs, I’m sure a bid of the reported 17 mill would do the trick. Everyone keeps banging on about loic remy being the better option, but for me personally I would like to see a geordie leading our front line. Fair enough it hasn’t gone well for him at Liverpool, but he banged them in for fun for us. He is decent on the deck for a big fella, but his aerial prowess is second to none, an area where Newcastle are lacking I.m.o. with people like Cabaye and benny whipping in crosses he would cause all sorts of havoc. Granted its a huge fee but remember we got a few decent players off the back of his transfer and could buy him back at half the price.
383 Zero // Aug 27, 2012 at 5:44 PM
Something similar to this might be very nice lol
—–Toite——-Anita—–
———Cabaye———-
-HBA————–Remy-
———Ba/Cisse———
384 GeordieToon89 // Aug 27, 2012 at 5:46 PM
Plus on the brightside if we sign Carroll back we’ll have another local lad who will put everything into the derby game a proper fighter
385 Bruce Lee's Wataaah // Aug 27, 2012 at 5:47 PM
Carroll isn’t worth more than £12million. If we buy him back for £17mil, we are basically giving liverfool £5million (or a full £17mil because the fools don’t even play him) back from the £35mil robbery.
I hope we get some 1st team defenders/fullbacks before the deadline.
Also spuds have bid £11.8mil and £12.7mil for Willian and M’Vila respectively. I think they need to bid a bit more like.
386 Rotonda heights // Aug 27, 2012 at 5:47 PM
Zero
bang on.
387 GeordieToon89 // Aug 27, 2012 at 5:48 PM
——————–Krul
Debuchy-Taylor-Coloccini-Santon
————-Tiote–Cabaye
Ben Arfa——————–Jonas
————-Carroll–Cisse/Ba
388 Rotonda heights // Aug 27, 2012 at 5:49 PM
oh yeah a derby match all of twice a season!! talk about seeing the bigger picture NOT!!
if we really want a geordie as a back up campbell is here.
389 ppb // Aug 27, 2012 at 5:50 PM
i don’t feel we’re lacking in the air. ba and cisse can both bang in a header up front.
don’t need to be 6’4″ to be an aerial threat
390 JackButler // Aug 27, 2012 at 5:50 PM
GT89
Whereas I’d love to have Carroll back, at this point in time we’re far more in need of defenders
391 Zero // Aug 27, 2012 at 5:51 PM
for the DERBY…. we already have the mackem destroyer for those two games alone.
392 eaststandgeordie1982 // Aug 27, 2012 at 5:53 PM
Anyone else think we could get pieters and douglas for a 10m in total??
393 Rotonda heights // Aug 27, 2012 at 5:53 PM
WTF is about being geordies!!
I don’t give a rats where they’re from if they do the business.
it’s the 21 century, hardly anyone is local these days. I’d rather give campbell game time than carroll. campbell is exactly the kind of striker we need and should be encouraged a la Owen and Rooney, not held back.
394 ppb // Aug 27, 2012 at 5:56 PM
@rotonda totally agreed on Campbell but don’t oversell him as rooney or Owen yet. he is that type of player though
395 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 5:57 PM
Geordiemacc
The prib with that is we dont whip any crosses in benny certanly doesnt and cabaye is cracking on the ground but hos crossing and set play delivery is frankly p1ss poor, as for banging them in for fun both cisse and ba scored more each in half a season so why should they loose there place to carroll just because he’s from the area? No logic in that at
And the key part of your statement is he “was” scoring for us, he hasnt been in goal scoring form for nearly 2 seasons now why do ppl think that will suddenly change just because hes back at the toon?
The other stat ppl have been pointing out is that he hasnt been scoring because most his liverpool appearences have been of the bench, well then wheres the point in us having him them? Christ at least shola has an impact off the bench! AC should not be an automatic starter for us and if he cant score off the bench then i fail to see what this other option is would rather sign either a young striker to develop with campbell or a cf like remy/gameiro
396 JackButler // Aug 27, 2012 at 5:57 PM
By the way, what a shame it is to see Joey Barton feeling hard done by, by QPR, if I had my way he’s be playing Sunday league in Outer Mongolia
397 Zero // Aug 27, 2012 at 5:57 PM
Rotonda i agree we’ve past the days of carroll he gave us good service but its time to move on, we really need to get Campbell in the frame progress him fast, whats the point of harping on about ..but hes a geordie..so… not even Celtic and Rangers do that anymore, times have changed.
398 Zero // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:00 PM
Jack what have you got against outer mongolia to inflict barton upon them. Im going to follow Marsielles now just to see how long it takes before he gets the boot from there lol
399 darrenfletcher88 // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:00 PM
Please. If he signs we will get behind him, don’t slate the guy, he is a Geordie which means a lot to me!!!!!
400 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:03 PM
Zero
Agreed
I think ppl when they think of carroll think about
1) the £35 mil
2) hes a local
3) the player he WAS when he left us
Well as you said things change hes not worth £35 mil £10 mil is a fair representation of his talent/contract length/ international
As for being local he showed no loyalty to us why should we show it back?
And as for being the player he was, well hes not anymore, he looks lost on a pitch puts 1 in 10 headers on target and seems to of lost the ability to take a first touch. He also constantly goes to ground or gives away free kicks
401 Zebras4Life // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:03 PM
Something similar to this might be very nice lol
—–Toite——-Anita—–
———Cabaye———-
-HBA————–Remy-
———Ba/Cisse———
This looks nice!
402 nick_9 // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:06 PM
I remember the last time we had a local lad playing upfront :/
If he comes i certainly won’t be cheering his name any time soon but I won’t boo one of our own. You have to earn respect and in his case he has to re-earn it.
I remember when Pardew came in, I was one who saw him as a puppet and an outsider. I ddnt think i would ever warm to hom. Now I see him as one of us but still wary of his relationship with the owner and llambias.
403 charlee71 // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:09 PM
According to twitter we’ve supposedly had an offer of £15.99 accepted
404 JackButler // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:10 PM
The talk of Carroll for 17million has to be rubbish, can you imagine the player we could get for that type of money with Carr scouting for us???
For 17 million we could get Remy and Douglas, I’m all for having local lads in the squad but for now we have to look beyond that
405 eaststandgeordie1982 // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:11 PM
No one seems to want to give marv a chance he can be a big player for us.
406 TOONARMY4LIFE // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:11 PM
People moaning about spending say 17mil on Carroll to sit on the bench.. Manchester united had rooney on the bench at the weekend. Need strength and depth to compete for top 4 and the option to mix things up plus the dembas will be off to AFCON and Carroll is an absolute monster howay!
407 darrenfletcher88 // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:11 PM
Charlee71,that’s good that,hhhhmmmm
408 JackButler // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:12 PM
Marcus_agent27 ?@Marcus_Agent27
Just had it confirmed to me Newcastle have had a 15m bid for Andy Carroll ACCEPTED
anyone know if this guy knows his stuff or is he just another bull sihtter
409 darrenfletcher88 // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:13 PM
I for one would love the lad back
410 TOONARMY4LIFE // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:14 PM
If we got him for 15mil id say fair enough
411 darrenfletcher88 // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:14 PM
Bull shitter!!!!!! Don’t beleave out on shitter!!!!
412 Zero // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:14 PM
@398 i think marv needs time in the second squad for the Euroleague, i think he could really impress and help bring on the likes of Bigi and Amfito and help feed Campbell, then after a while he should be fighting for the first 11
413 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:16 PM
Charlee71
I knew we took the p1ss with our bids but 16 quid?!?
Jackbutler
That agent markus is a tool he follows cwarr, half the sunderland team and just about every pornstar on twitter
414 TorqToon // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:17 PM
Talking of tw@tter….
https://twitter.com/cwarr07/status/240129181252460545
When will he learn?!?!
415 Spuggy // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:18 PM
Cwarr i an attention seeking troll. Dunno why anyone bothers following him. Still waiting for him to close his account after Gervinho didn’t arrive.
416 TorqToon // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:21 PM
He’s a fool and simply hoping one day he will be right…which by simple maths…eventually he will !!! Then god help us all…!
417 darrenfletcher88 // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:22 PM
Sick of shitter talk like
418 check the toastie // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:24 PM
Gotta say Nick_9 i am also a little cagey about the Pardew Ashley relationship, sometimes i do feel Pardew is peddling the party line, think Pards is a clever and slick guy, wants to progress his career and clearly still feels a little indebted to fatty for giving him a chance, when basically his career was over.
Personally he is the best we are ever going to get in this current regime, although i obviuosly respect Carr massively, not many PL managers want to answer to somebody else on transfers, its not a bad system if only dickhead derek would actually spend the money.
Hate how some folk have been completely suckered into our football club being ran as a frugal business, everybody calls QPR, Sunderland, West Ham for spending lots of money, however if money is spent well it is worth spending (these clubs clearly havent), could we not have offered Hoillett more wages than QPR?.
Still think Ashley is truly not in love with the club and it is still for sale if he could get his money back, his investment in the squad proves it.
419 TorqToon // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:24 PM
It’s all toon-related fella…
We are all dismissing it and not taking it a gospel but is always fun hearing cwarr’s latest bullsh17 !!
420 charlee71 // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:25 PM
Apparently this Marcus dude on Twatter is a complete nobba and Hez following a load of scum and porn. I hate Twattdp
421 BelfastMagpie // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:27 PM
Stop spreading rumours butler.
Your man Cwarr is a tosser,he said it was done a few weeks ago too.
I dont think he’s ever got anything right lol
422 charlee71 // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:27 PM
Apparently this Marcus dude on Twatter is a complete nobba and Hez following a load of scum and porn. I hate Twattdp. Carroll has been spotted buying 52,000 sorry cards
423 Zero // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:27 PM
If we do get AC back it will be for an undisclosed ammount to save face for Liverpool, they are not going to openly advertise their losses
424 darrenfletcher88 // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:29 PM
New topic,no one has been talking about the second leg,I personally think its one off the biggest games in are recent history
425 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:30 PM
Good evening everyone.
How’s things? Is the blog still on self destruct mode?
426 Zero // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:31 PM
Fletcher what do your recon the score will be, im putting bets on 1-0 to the toon
427 darrenfletcher88 // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:32 PM
I really think we will get a few goals on Thursday night, 3-1,ba to score first,
428 charlee71 // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:32 PM
This android app is crap. It keeps sayin that its failed to upload so sorry for any multiple posts
429 ppb // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:33 PM
@ibiza its getting that way mate
430 check the toastie // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:33 PM
Ibiza – I am not happy and am getting more unhappy as the days to the deadline approach, feel like the sky is about to fall in, everybody who has contributed to the blog over the summer should feel the same way, please please please please give us Debuchy, i just cant cope with more Simmo.
431 wwtoon // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:34 PM
Don’t tell me Carrols agent wasn’t telling him to take the deal and ashley/lambias wasn’t telling him to take the deal, why, because they were going to be quids in. It was fairly obvious that dalgleish was out of his depth /had lost the plot. Andy Carrol is a footballer, he isn’t a businessman, when all these people, who are supposedly acting in his best interests tell him to do something ,in the end he’ll do it. It was obviously madness. If newcastle buy him back for 15 million they will have still made a good profit. Don’t make him a victim, he always did his best for newcastle, and the only reason this crazy situation occured was because he excelled playing for newcastle. Bring him back.
432 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:35 PM
Darren….How can we discuss our possible European qualification with the transfer deadline so close and so many problems lingering around our team?
Massive game on Thursday. I expect a similar team to the away leg, with maybe 2 or 3 changes. Pardew will have one eye on the Villa match imo, although he wont be taking it lightly, we must get through this game and ensure another 6 games at least.
I am hoping that this game triggers our transfer activity to (once qualification is finalised and thus “needing” the extra quality / numbers).
I’m going to go for a 3-1 toon.
433 Zero // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:35 PM
ba to score first would be solid but i think he wont be starting, Cisse needs game time desperately to get his head back in the frame, i really hope its a good ole thumping of 3+ goals give our strikers some confidence before we play again in the league
434 darrenfletcher88 // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:35 PM
Wwtoon, here here
435 toonarmydownsouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:36 PM
Darren
I think were gonna do a 4-0 special with campbell getting on the acoresheet!
Ibiza
Noooooooooo dont press that butto……BOOM………
436 JackButler // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:36 PM
Just a simple question, what happens IF we sign Debuchy?
Who will those who despise Simpson turn their attention to if he leave’s the club???
437 nico // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:38 PM
My predications have been spot on so far this season.
I’m going 3-0 to the Toon
438 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:38 PM
Check….Amazingly I’ve realised that no amount of panic or worry will change anything, so I’m avoiding the speculation this week brings and will try and asses things come Monday, once emotions hopefully will have settled
I know you’re feelings on Simmo and whilst he certainly can be improved, we could do a lot worse and I wont be suicidal waiting until January to improve his position if that is the case.
Stay strong mate, how many years have you supported the toon? Surely you’ve built up a tolerance to it by now
439 darrenfletcher88 // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:39 PM
Ibiza I can’t beleave where not talking about it, it’s huge,I think people are excepting us to sail through, it’s tough any European game,when Lille get knocked out off the champions this week dubuchy will sign!!!
440 Zero // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:39 PM
I doubt simpson will go in this window maybe in january but by signing Debuchy it doesnt mean we need to sell simpson, it might pressure him into signing a new contract knowing that he could get shoved out with a replacement in place.
441 BelfastMagpie // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:40 PM
Im following some guy that has two twatter accounts.
He constantly abuses Cwarr on one account,and kisses his ass on the other one???
It’s all very strange Haha
Maybe its Kets..
442 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:41 PM
JB….There will always be someone to blame for something. If we’re top of the league I can imagine there being an issue with the groundsmen for not having perfect length grass
Tads…Whoops, finger slipped.
As for the game and my 3-1 prediction, they will score first, just to allow mass panic and calls for everyones head on here.
443 t00ntime // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:41 PM
Good to hear i want crazy
and also that we are Moving on from the annoying subject which is the transfer season.
I’m going or 4-0 if Ateam starts
And 2-1 if Bteam starts (team we had out last time)
444 Zero // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:41 PM
lol nah i think kets’ account has been taken over hes been posting reasonable posts and even defending his statements lol
445 JackButler // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:41 PM
Belfast its not you is it, after all you have more alter ego’s than a comic book character
446 BelfastMagpie // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:42 PM
Whats the android app called?
447 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:43 PM
Darren…Didn’t Lille lose 1-0 away? Hardly guaranteed knock out
They, like us, will assess their position once qualifiers are out of the way. That’s when business will get serious. I can only hope that we’re serious anyway and it’s not just trying to please the fans, they should know by now talking about signings don’t please most people, heck, people were only happy about the signing of Anita for 5 minutes
448 geordiemacc // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:44 PM
Tion army down south
Fair comment mate. I just think he would click if he was to come back and that he offers something different. He wants to come back, says he,ll take a pay cut and I believe he would give one hundred percent. And what happens with the a.c.o.n? We lose two forwards? People want us to sign Douglas. Why? He said there were bigger clubs than Newcastle interested and that speaks volumes to me. I want someone who actually wants to be here not just to put in half assed performances for an inflated pay cheque. Cabaye and benny are capable of putting pin point balls in, but don’t due to lack of an aerial threat. That’s what I meant by something different. No hard feelings pal I’m just a romantacist not a realist LOL.
449 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:44 PM
Zero….Is it possible we have an imposter that actually improves an originals posts? That certainly is a change of pace around here
450 darrenfletcher88 // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:45 PM
Ibiza have faith,they will get beat,lol
451 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:46 PM
Darren…… I believe!
452 BelfastMagpie // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:47 PM
Haha
No you call this guy Andrew,he’s defo a troll like.
It just goes to show how thick Cwarr is,for not knowing its the same person.
When a numpty like me has clocked it.
453 Zero // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:47 PM
Ibiza its possible or Kets could have got sick of the constant abuse he was gettign on every post… one can hope its a little from column a and a little from column b lol
454 nick_9 // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:48 PM
JB I dont think us fans naturally want someone to leave or despise them, it’s more a case of us wanting a good starting eleven and good back up players to have a crack at the top four or maintain European status. I myself naturally look at ways we can improve. At the moment I see Simpson as the week link in our starting eleven so he needs to either improve or be replaced. I don’t think our wingers are wingers and I think our movement off the ball and link up between each other isn’t great. I’m not being negative saying that, I merely want us to work on it because I want what I feel is bet for the club. If Simpson leaves I won’t immediately move on to say Williamson but I will look at how else we can improve and that might be by adding perhaps a better winger, more attacking central midfielder or perhaps better back up players to come in. What’s the point in just competing? We all want to finish top 4/ win the league etc I strive for perfection so it’s only natural to want to improve aspects of our play or personnel. We all love the toon and perhaps we all feel we know better than those at the club but at the end of the day we are just paying fans. Ashleigh, llambias and Pardew have the control and we go with the flow. If I had my way we would already have a st, cb, fb and Rw added to the squad.
455 Marzy // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:49 PM
If 15/17 million was being spent on 1 player “never mind it so called being AC” but I would much prefer atleast 2 players out of that money as defenders are paramount with that sort of money.
456 Marzy // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:50 PM
If 15/17 million was being spent on 1 player (never mind it so called being AC) but I would much prefer atleast 2 players out of that money as defenders are paramount with that sort of money.
457 magpiebop // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:50 PM
Thought it was Big Mike and Del Boy these days!
458 toonLYF // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:51 PM
Lucas Digne, Lille’s (haha) 19 year old left back…WANT.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALJ1VhSVMro
459 GeordieToon89 // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:53 PM
That tfs newcastle united on twitter just said “just had it confirmed newcastle have had a £15million bid accepted for Carroll”
Proper rubbish like
460 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:54 PM
Zero….To be fair, the abuse started after much pleading to engage in discussion, which he refused for a long while. If it’s a change in approach, I for one am delighted. I have no problem with anyone’s opinion (well, that;s not completely true
), I just want people to discuss that opinion as civil as possible. A lot to ask I know
461 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:54 PM
Belfast…Who downgraded your status to Numpty?
462 JackButler // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:55 PM
nick_9 – Sorry mate buts its the way its been for years, Simpson is today’s public enemy No#1, last season it was Perch and Raylor, there are so many on here that love to slag our own players off any chance they get, while certain player are untouchable no matter how they perform
463 BelfastMagpie // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:55 PM
Gt89
Whats tfs?
464 jesperfuglsang // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:56 PM
Good evening everyone
hope you have had a nice quite weekend…
I can see Spurs are getting closer to sealing a deal for Lloris
465 BelfastMagpie // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:57 PM
I like the Numpty name Ibiza.
But in reality im a genius..
466 JackButler // Aug 27, 2012 at 6:58 PM
Belfast you’re a flawed genius, the flaw being you’re a Numpty
467 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:00 PM
Belfast….I suppose Numpty is an improvement on some previous names…..
I don’t doubt you as a genius, not for one second mate.
Jesper….What’s happening with pipedream?
As for Spurs, the more they spend on a GK the better. They need to replace Modric and need strikers asap, so please Levy, spend your money on a GK
468 BelfastMagpie // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:00 PM
I sent you a message Butler from the new account.
I broke the no tweeting policy just for you.
469 JackButler // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:02 PM
Our man in Holland reports the following translation from the well-informed FC Twente Fan website;
“The transfer of Douglas to Fulham appears not to be happening. Douglas doesn’t find the idea of going to Fulham (where former teammate Brian Ruiz is playing) particularly appetizing and is hoping that Newcastle will revive their interest, because he would definitely relish a move to Tyneside. FC Twente have given him an ultimatum: he needs to tell them by Tuesday night at the latest if he is leaving, so they still have time to find a replacement. They don’t want to find themselves in the situation of a last minute departure of a leading player, as happened last season with Brian Ruiz”.
470 check the toastie // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:03 PM
Its funny i was content when we had big Andy, Nolan, Barton and Enrique, everyone gave 100% and we knew our limits and could thus curb expectation, even could see the reason to knock it long.
We now have a team that should be playing a certain way (pardew has convinced players to sign due to this supposed imaginery playing style) to maximise their talent and also with a small amount of investment could be truly great, as good as we have ever had, i am so frustrated that the moment hasnt been seized by those at the club, and am worried that player morale could be affected by perceived lack of ambition which could turn itself into players wanting to be away, (wages are bigger elsewhere).
This could be a massively defining moment for this football club, you stand still and you go backwards, hope im wrong.
471 JackButler // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:03 PM
Belfast I’m touched mate
just been on there abusing Ranger
472 bro56 // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:06 PM
can see all these rumors persisting until the very last minute of transfer deadline..then nowt lol we’ve been here before…
For thursday I’d like to see us start with Marv, Anita, Cabaye
with Barfa, Capbell and Ba up from 4-3-3
Its defo time to see more of Marv and its a good time for Campbell to start.
473 jesperfuglsang // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:07 PM
Ibiza…Pipedream was apparrently just a pipedream
lol
It’s Allan’s fault ;( why did he have to and change for the bindippers…
What place are you in mate?
474 nick_9 // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:08 PM
I’m not condoning some of it but have you noticed it goes hand in hand with their performances? Undoubtedly raylor and perch have performed a lot better and they have sopped getting stick as much. Perch is a bit of a fans hero now he has upped his game. Simpson is still hit and miss so he is getting the brunt of it now. I don’t think it’s a bandwagon, fans perceptions of players does change very quickly along with their performances. People are quick to judge, look at Anita for example. There has been some ridiculous comments regarding Anita after one mixed performance. I myself am quick to recognise when a player has a bad performance and likewise with a good performance. Obertan and Simpson for me are the players that need to up their game or be replaced. If they are replaced or up their game like perch then naturally if we want to get better we will look at where else we can improve. In this case it might well be central
Defensive cover like Williamson or upfront with shola/ranger
475 bro56 // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:08 PM
@JackButler
didnt he say there were bigger clubs then the Toon in for him? Not sure if he’ll get a start with Taylor being fit…
476 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:08 PM
Check….We all hope you’re wrong and I mean that in the nicest way possible.
As for Padiola’s “style”. I have seen bits coming along, such as defenders passing it out instead of just smacking it (so much), this will take time and it’s a lot about practice and confidence imo.
People can’t just expect us to go from the long ball to Barca in 2 seasons, that’s just madness. Slow steady progress. Maybe some players aren’t willing to wait for it to materialise, in which case they will move on and we will re-build. I agree, this is the most exciting team we’ve had in ages and whilst a couple of key additions will help, not bringing them in shouldn’t throw everything off either.
Whilst an opportunity to advance may pass us by this summer, it is certainly far from condemning us to mediocrity imo.
477 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:11 PM
Jesper…Not doing so wonderful myself mate, but remember, we have our private competition running. I think iIm in the low 300′s
478 ochytoon // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:11 PM
If we don’t sign any players by Friday then I’m burning down OV!
479 JackButler // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:12 PM
bro56 don’t know what he’s said tbh mate, there’s so much BS thrown around during the window that it impossible to believe anything anymore, I’ve got to the point that unless I see an interview with the player i don;t buy into anything thats reported tbh, just threw that report out there for anyone who may be interested in it
480 jesperfuglsang // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:13 PM
Ibiza…I know i know mate…lol
Everything went against me last week…Rooney is out so I have to make some ajustments
I’ll come back stronger – I need Cisse to start his scoring streak
lol
481 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:14 PM
Ochy…..OV is a state of mind, you might want to re-think your statement
482 JackButler // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:15 PM
Just out of interest what would the reaction be if we don’t sign anyone by friday but at the same time we don’t sell anyone???
483 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:15 PM
Jesper….Ah yes, Cisse hasn’t provided the goods yet. Although when he does he will be benefiting us both, so that wont help you against me. Best hope Allen helps you out sooner rather than later
484 bro56 // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:16 PM
@JackButler
very tru m8, I feel the same way
485 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:17 PM
JB….I’d be happy enough with that. I get the feeling most others wont though.
486 bro56 // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:17 PM
sod Carroll lets slap a 12mil bid in for rooney with Cabaye part of the deal
487 Gateshead-Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:18 PM
aaaaah ibiza the voice of reason is back
its been suicide watch on here since the chelsea game
although bob reared his ugly head, which gave us all a laugh, when i say all i mean apart from the people that were suckered in lol
488 jesperfuglsang // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:18 PM
Ochy…the important think is the outcome on thursday…we need that win so we’ll get to the group stages.
If…I mean when that happens (think possitive, think happy thoughts
I am sure we will strengthen.
489 MagpiesFlyHigh // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:18 PM
1. No silly money for Carroll
2. Please don’t use the term mong as a term of abuse…some of the nicest people I know have Down’s
3. Ibiza is right… we are playing out of defence now much better…. Simmo is moving forward more….we are sort of playing pass and move… (though the movement on Saturday wasn’t that good)
4. We’ll get a couple through the doors by Friday and all feel a lot better;
5. No way Cabaye going to Arsenal..Cazorla bossed the midfield against Stoke, just a lousy front line
6. We will not get Remy as Spuds are more desperate
490 Gateshead-Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:19 PM
jb
i could live with that, although iv got a feeling carroll will be here come friday evening
491 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:19 PM
Hyphen….I did pop in for 5 minutes and had a bit of fun seeing Bob back. I think I even sang him a song I was so happy he was back
Voice of reason needed a little time off. Nice to see so many people trying to keep the peace on here. I was tempted to wait until the weekend to come back on, but I can’t get this monkey off my back
Oh well….
492 jesperfuglsang // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:21 PM
Ibiza…you don’t have Bennyboy do you?
…I am sick and tired of Allen, if doens’t start to produce the goods this week is out
lol
I’ll bring in Michu as I should have had!
493 ToonDownSouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:21 PM
MFH & Ibiza
I think we’re getting there with the ‘passing’ , but as for ‘moving’ our players are still far too stationary off the ball.
Hatem is the only player who is constantly, 100% of the time, looking to make himself available.
494 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:21 PM
MFH….I’m right? Can I pop the champagne?
Whilst they looked a little shaky, you can see they’re trying to work on it. Can’t really ask for much more of Pardew and the coaches on that front.
495 darrenfletcher88 // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:22 PM
Lads if I order tickets Tomoz morning will I get them before thurs?? Before the 2nd leg??
496 bro56 // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:23 PM
not sure why Simpson gets bashed so much. I think hes a decent enough player, quite solid with loads of energy. if he worked on his crossing and forward play I think the fans will be well pleased.
497 WWYCD // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:23 PM
JB
Anger annoyance tears frustration and general kicking off
498 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:24 PM
TDS….I have noticed that too. Everyone seems a little too relaxed, which was not the case last season. We started with a mission then.
I think Pads has told them to be relaxed on the ball and pass it about, something has gotten lost in translation though. Give it some time, they’ll get the idea or we’ll be relegated…one of the two
499 Gateshead-Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:24 PM
darrenfletcher
you can pay on the night i think, i rang the box office the other day and they said you could, so im hoping anyway
500 nick_9 // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:24 PM
I would see no incomings as a wasted opportunity and a set back. Every other club has strengthened so it would be even harder to maintain 5th and even more so without signings. I feel with 3 signings we could challenge for 5th again but as it stands I think we are reducing or chances. As a club I think 7th or above is a great achievement any lower and it’s usually a different category of teams. In our league we have a top 2/3 challenging for the title then another 5/6 teams in contention for Europe and then after that your looking at scraps. Maybe this year will be different
501 JackButler // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:24 PM
WWYCD
Thats what I thought mate tbh
Though I think we will sign a couple of players and keep our top stars
502 jesperfuglsang // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:24 PM
…I did have a laugh when I saw Bob…and for a short moment I did feel sorry for the poor smucks who got suckered in
lol
503 darrenfletcher88 // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:25 PM
I just want my tickets lol,so u no u have them,2 days will be enough surly??
504 Mackem Slayer // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:25 PM
Do you think we could have been one of the clubs to lodge a bid for Gomis of Lyon? It says in the sky sports report that Lyon have received several bids from premier league clubs but are not announcing who, which is what Newcastle normally ask for. Probably just putting two and two together though.
505 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:25 PM
Yo…Basically the actions of a hungry baby?
506 Gateshead-Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:27 PM
darrenfletcher
iv just realised that in no way answers your question hahaha
surely itl not be anywere near a sell out tho so ul be able to sit where you want
507 WWYCD // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:30 PM
JB
I honestly don’t know…I will spit my dummy out and go into melt down if we don’t get some more bodies in though I’ll get over it quick like but me and Cashley won’t be on speaking terms anymore
Ibiza
Pretty much yeah though with slightly more intent to do damage
508 darrenfletcher88 // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:30 PM
Lol,I’ll give it ago,get paid the morn that’s all,lol
509 jesperfuglsang // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:31 PM
Another note on the transferfront; it seems M’Bia is going to QPR!
They do know how to spend money don’t they – maybe we could interest them in Xisco or Ranger
lol
510 BelfastMagpie // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:31 PM
I’d be pissed of if we didnt sign anyone.
5th place finish & 3 million net spend is a bit rubbish like.
Especially with europe & the extra games.
511 Gateshead-Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:32 PM
darrenfletcher
wey if its a sell out and we get noked back first pints on me in shearers bar lol
512 JackButler // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:34 PM
Well my poor deluded mate claims that Man UTD are in talks to sign Iniesta for 60 million, you see we are not the only club that are taken for a ride during the window
513 Magpies-till-d3ath // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:38 PM
MackemSlayer- I really hope that your right! Only tiny problem is that he’s 27!
514 eaststandgeordie1982 // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:40 PM
Pitch forks for sale, no refunds after fri bargin at £9.99.
515 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:42 PM
eaststand…..I found some at sports direct for £4.99. Has Ashley come up with the next brilliant business idea?
516 ToonDownSouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:43 PM
WWYCD
I assumed you’d be like me mate – I haven’t actually expected any signings since June, so the disappointment’s already out of me.
The moment Garcia said we’d made a £4m bid for Debuchy, I thought then that it would be a summer of piss taking!
517 DraperNUFC10 // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:43 PM
Everyone follow me on twitter @Daniel_Draper95 and I’ll follow back
HWTL
518 Jail for Ashley // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:43 PM
I think Douglas and AC could be in by the end of the window and I can’t see anybody paying enough to get one of our stars unless Man U make a silly bid for Tiote.
519 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:43 PM
And this no refund after Friday clause….Can we return them at 23:01 Friday night?
520 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:44 PM
You know the blog is in a state of chaos when Jail For Ashley is one of the most optimistic posters
Go on Jail, show ‘em how it’s done!
521 ochytoon // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:44 PM
Yay we turned TDS into a negger!
522 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:45 PM
Hope you’re proud ochy….I don’t know how you sleep at night
523 ochytoon // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:45 PM
JFA
Are you back from Durkhadurkhistan yet?
524 ochytoon // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:46 PM
Ibiza
On a bed made from MA’s bank statements.
525 JackButler // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:47 PM
Great Piece
http://www.nufcfans.co.uk/fan-blog-applying-soccernomics-to-newcastle-united-transfer-policy-explained/
526 eaststandgeordie1982 // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:47 PM
Ibiza
You cant return yours due to the fact it will have potch all over it, mine dont have sports direct on the handle.
527 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:47 PM
Ochy……I bet all those zero’s make for some good bed time reading
528 Rotonda heights // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:47 PM
bro 56
if you watched simpson on chelski you’d know why. it would be hard to find a more limited and unenterprising full back.
529 ToonDownSouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:47 PM
ochy
I’ve always just been realistic lol. I’m happy with the team, happy with the manager, but I’ll never trust or expect anything from Ashley. People seem to have very short memories when it comes to MA & DL
530 Mackem Slayer // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:47 PM
Magpies till death – I haven’t seen much of him just saw the article on sky sports transfer centre earlier, but if he was available fairly cheaply then he would probably solve our ‘potential’ striker problem.
531 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:49 PM
eaststand….Don’t be ridiculous. I have my potch fork for that, god the trouble I’d have eaten my potch and gravy with a pitch fork. Ha, have you ever heard of something so ridiculous?
You can peel the labels off, they’re pretty cheap like.
532 eaststandgeordie1982 // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:50 PM
I have special potch pitch forks, £7.99 to you mate.
533 mattnufc // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:51 PM
I hope we sign a LB rather than a RB; Santon on the left is a little too unorthodox for me – never heard of a wing back (if that’s what he is playing as) playing on the opposite wing.
534 WWYCD // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:51 PM
TDS
I don’t expect out mate haha but I will be annoyed as hell if after all the coin we will of taken in last season and the costs we have cut over this summer we have not attempted to bridge the gap
I am annoyed that we have been too ambitious with targets tbh and missed out on the quality bargains that have been avaliable but I am still reserving judgement until window shuts but if we don’t sign anyone I can see us dropping off the European trail tbh
535 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:52 PM
JB…Point 7 is being neglected. Good read
536 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:54 PM
eaststand….Superb. £20 for 3?
537 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:55 PM
Right, I am off for dinner. I hope I don’t end up having potch before my knew fork arrives.
Have a fun evening
538 bro56 // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:55 PM
wow. unfortunate way to go…
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1686459/Official-dies-after-being-hit-by-javelin
539 Jail for Ashley // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:55 PM
Ochy,
Yep I’m in Hull now.
540 eaststandgeordie1982 // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:58 PM
Ibiza
Deal i will even put a free bag of potch in with it
541 ochytoon // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:59 PM
JFA
What’s better? Turkeystan or Hull?
542 MagpiesFlyHigh // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:59 PM
Ibiza
and a good few of the players we are recruiting have already been coached in that style… e.g. Good , Anita
543 Mackem Slayer // Aug 27, 2012 at 7:59 PM
Hopefully we are interested in that young left back from ajax, is it boilsen?
544 Rotonda heights // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:00 PM
toonarmyforlife
I very much doubt the dembas will be off to the ACON. Tiote may be
Don’t understand the panic for another striker, especially if we rotate and play 1 up front. It’s a right back and quick CB we desperately need.
545 toonLYF // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:01 PM
JackButler, that’s a very good breakdown, and a seemingly very interesting book.
546 catchy in norway // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:03 PM
we seem to go through stages of spending then saving, right now it seems a saving mode he is in
my biggest problem i have right now is pardew, he seems to be totally blinded by loyalty,
yes this is pre season, but biggi proved a very good deputy to tiote, not to mention young abied, so sub time hmmm cabaye is having a mare of a game, along with jonas ba and cisse, what does he do bring off simpson ( not a simpson fan at all but the 4 mentioned where our worst players) just so raylor could take the set pieces,
out of the 2 up front, ba looked more mobile and didnt give the ball away so much, cisse has looked so far off the pace, this ramadam thing has them both buggerd , so why play them both??
jonas , had one thing left going for him last year , he ran himself into the ground for the team, well 2 games in that seems to have stopped, santon ran past him so many times, what happened santon gets subbed ,
yes pardew seems very scared of upsetting his senior players,
just a point, fergi started with van the man on the bench last week, thhis week it was rodney, ,
marv should have been on at half time,
last point anita, hasnt set the world alite yet, but he will come good, ppl are expecting him to be good straight off when all around him seems poor,, just not fair, he hasn never been the worst player on the pitch yet
547 ochytoon // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:04 PM
Rotonda
But Pardew is insisting on playing 4-4-2
That leaves us with only one back up striker.
548 couchy-spennymoor-mags // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:04 PM
Just a thought…. Why not kaka on loan???
549 breno95 // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:04 PM
Anyone know ticket prices for Thursday night?
One to debate – Pieters alleged to have arrived at Newcastle airport and staying over night at Gosforth park hotel. Make of that what you want.
550 Jail for Ashley // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:05 PM
Ochy,
Not much init mate.
551 Billythefish // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:05 PM
No way on earth we will not sign anyone, 3 new players 2 before Friday. one big one last minute. Unless Ashley is looking to sell for next season??? Don’t think that will happen though
552 ochytoon // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:06 PM
JFA
Fair enough
553 bro56 // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:08 PM
lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYkIhYtN7yA&feature=g-logo-xit
made me chuckle anyway..
554 Gateshead-Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:08 PM
breno
15 quid for adults
555 breno95 // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:12 PM
Cheers gatesheadmag. Off to the game I go then.
556 Gateshead-Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:13 PM
same here cant wait, never been to a game since wolves in march
557 breno95 // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:19 PM
Gatesheadmag
As long as we win then eh?
Enjoy the game.
558 Gateshead-Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:21 PM
breno
im not even considering anything other than a win haha
559 ToonDownSouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:22 PM
Gateshead & Breno
Hate to break it to you guys, but we’re going to lose. We very rarely win games that I attend.
You have my sincerest apologies in advance!
560 tenpointnine // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:25 PM
@184 ToonAndy // Aug 27, 2012 at 1:56 PM
“Imagine if Mike Ashley just thought bollocks… Here’s 30 million, lets go for it!…”
Brilliant mate! If only….
561 Gateshead-Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:26 PM
tds
aaaah you up for the game like?? does it count if you wear a disguise??
562 Beattie25 // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:29 PM
Hi guys,
Just going to air my thoughts which I’m sure you’ll all agree with. If you don’t then your god damn insane!
I think that we have learnt in the last 2 summer windows that the longer you leave it the less players become. The closer you get to deadline day the more desperate clubs get to sell. I reckon on deadline day players get offered around like meat in a cattle market. I think we are just holding off, seeing what happens and then bang straight in there when the landscape shifts.
For example why pay £4.5 million if Sakho became available for £6 million?
Anyway that’s the logic and I should know for I am itk!!
563 Magpies-till-d3ath // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:29 PM
http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/909811-manchester-city-spurs-and-newcastle-on-alert-after-loic-remys-put-up-for-sale
Come on Ashley! Get the cashflow going!
564 Beattie25 // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:31 PM
Sorry that should’ve said why pay 4.5 for Douglas if Sakho becomes available for 6.
I’m sure you knew that!
565 breno95 // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:32 PM
ToonDownSouth
If that happens I will be chasing you for my refund ha.
However this match will change your fortunes when you go to SJP I am sure of that.
566 ToonDownSouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:34 PM
breno
I haven’t been to SJP in years – and we won the last time. So let’s hope the curse only applies for away game
567 ochytoon // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:35 PM
Beattie
Can’t see it happening but I’ll try and remain optimistic.
568 eaststandgeordie1982 // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:36 PM
Beattie i would be happy with either along with piters
569 Gateshead-Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:36 PM
beattie
i agree, now will you tell my psychiatric ward matron im sane?? she doesnt believe me the lil rascal
570 eaststandgeordie1982 // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:37 PM
Tds where in the east stand you sitting, dont forget to get in the strawberry
571 Beattie25 // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:38 PM
I told her hyphen but she said she doesn’t speak rabbit.
572 charlee71 // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:40 PM
Beattie
Its nice to see some optimism, and totally agree. Its gonna be a frenzy. Av got the Voddy tucked up in the freezer for FrI. .
573 Gateshead-Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:40 PM
i think some one very wise once said
baaaaahhh!!!……meh
574 breno95 // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:43 PM
TDS
Here’s hoping it does. Although it won’t be full house for you, if you have not been in years it’s an awesome sight. Majestic in fact.
If you travelling by train you will see it crossing the high level bridge.
575 ToonDownSouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:45 PM
eaststand
Can’t remember, I’ll have a look – the sections in the middle were pretty full, so I’m closer to the gallowgate end.
Beattie
I love the optimism, I really do – I just hope you’re not bitterly disappointed.
576 MagpiesFlyHigh // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:48 PM
Beattie
the world was going to fall in according to your posts after the Bridge game… sooo glad you’ve bounced back
577 eaststandgeordie1982 // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:49 PM
Tds
Nebotha mate, hope its a cracker for you with a goal fest
578 Beattie25 // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:50 PM
TDS
If it all goes horribly wrong you and the rest of the blog won’t have to suffer my feelings as I will formally quit the blog.
No lies, beattie25 will retire if we don’t sign anyone.
579 ToonDownSouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:53 PM
Beattie
What if we only sign Carroll? There’s an argument to be made that that’s worse than signing noone
580 Beattie25 // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:54 PM
MFH
After the game I was merly pointing out the enormity of the situation.
We must invest and we must use better tactics.
Those views haven’t changed since my first post and will remain until my last if things don’t change.
581 Gateshead-Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:55 PM
tds
a cant say ad agree with that like, if we sign carrol which i think we will we have to put faith in him and the board, hel win us back over man
582 Gateshead-Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:56 PM
when i said the board i meant pardew and co*
583 Beattie25 // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:56 PM
TDS
If we sign Carroll I’ll quit the blog and support scumderland!
584 ToonDownSouth // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:58 PM
Gateshead
I haven’t really formed an opinion on the matter haha.
But if it’s at the expense of a much needed defender, then I think there’d be a lot of uproar!
585 Beattie25 // Aug 27, 2012 at 8:59 PM
It’s not that I don’t want Carroll back I am just supremely confident that we will never spend 12-17 million on a player with no resale value.
If he comes home he comes home forever!
586 Indian Magpie // Aug 27, 2012 at 9:00 PM
Tea and Busquets ?@V1nayakG7
Since Oct 1996 , #Arsenal have won 3 titles, the FAcup 4 times and qualified for champions league each and every season Net spending £0.
587 MagpiesFlyHigh // Aug 27, 2012 at 9:01 PM
Beattie
‘better tactics’ sounds like a good telling off for AP…
588 Gateshead-Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 9:01 PM
beattie25
so if theres no re-sale value and we did spend say 15 million would you see that as a signal of intent on ashleys part??
589 ochytoon // Aug 27, 2012 at 9:08 PM
Buying Carroll would be a step backwards. Who’s to say he can recapture the form he had when he was with us and the transfer fee for his current stature is too be baulked at. Let’s ignore the fact that he is a Geordie and played for us and that he left for £35 million. Would you seriously be happy forking out £15 million for a player who’s scored about 10 goals in the last year?
590 Gateshead-Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 9:11 PM
ochytoon
you cant make a judgement simply looking at apperences and goals, look at how liverpool have used him, how many apps have been on as a sub and so forth
he showed at the end of the season and for england how good he is when hes fit
form is tempory and all that
591 Nufc-83 // Aug 27, 2012 at 9:12 PM
People don’t realise how good bartons delivery was so if we sign Carroll who is going to supply that type of delivery?
592 Gateshead-Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 9:12 PM
also like people say i honestly believe if he comes bac hes back for good, hes got a fair few years left being only 23
593 MagpiesFlyHigh // Aug 27, 2012 at 9:14 PM
M’Vila going to Spuds by the look of it
594 Gateshead-Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 9:15 PM
he doesnt just need crosses in but balls over the top,set-pieces, crossfield balls, its not just the goals he can score but also his knockdowns/link up play and the trouble he gives defenders freeing up other people and so-on, i honestly think he will be a great addition to the squad………but hey who the hell am i???
no seriously iv forgotten
595 ochytoon // Aug 27, 2012 at 9:18 PM
Gateshead
Six league goals in 43 league appearances. Regardless of whether most of those are appearances off the bench that’s still an abysmal record. £15 million for a player who on average gets a goal every 7.2 games. In the short term, he’s not the right option, but it may perhaps be beneficial in the long run (key word being may). Plus, it pretty much will force Pards to play Carroll over the Senegal boys which will no doubt upset the team.
596 BelfastMagpie // Aug 27, 2012 at 9:20 PM
I said the same thing about Carroll the other day.
Most people seem to be assuming he’s gonna come back and bang in the goals lol
For all we know,we could pay 15 million & he could be rubbish for us too.Haha
597 ochytoon // Aug 27, 2012 at 9:21 PM
Belfast
No Barton-esque delivery or Nolan to pick up the scraps. I can’t see him working out for us.
598 Gateshead-Mag // Aug 27, 2012 at 9:21 PM
ochytoon
a see where your coming from a just think liverpools been completely the wrong move for him and if he were to come back hed have a point to prove, i dont think he’d just push the dembas out the team but fact is we need an extra striker and different strikers for different games, carrol and cisse upfront would be amazing or carrol and demba for that fact, i dunno like a say i don’t know what will happen or how they will fit in i just have a feeling he’s coming home and i for one will be happy when he does
599 BelfastMagpie // Aug 27, 2012 at 9:25 PM
Liverpool more or less paid £35 million for a guy with 6 months premier league experience lol
But it’s not my £15 million so every cloud & that..
600 ochytoon // Aug 27, 2012 at 9:25 PM
Gateshead
Well that’s fair enough and you’re entitled to your opinion but I for one will be disappointed if we bring Carroll back.
601 eaststandgeordie1982 // Aug 27, 2012 at 9:28 PM
If ge came back he would have the fire in his belly back no doubt about that.
602 Zebras4Life // Aug 27, 2012 at 9:28 PM
Carroll is not a step backwards if we still invest in our areas of weakness
603 BelfastMagpie // Aug 27, 2012 at 9:34 PM
Im not really fussed either way..
Signing Carroll would be better than signing nobody,at the end of the day..
604 johnboy // Aug 27, 2012 at 9:34 PM
Colin reckons he will leave twitter if we don’t re-sign Carroll, he is that confident in the deal! Clearly means it won’t happen as he is clueless! Not sure he has ever been right about a deal!
605 BelfastMagpie // Aug 27, 2012 at 9:35 PM
John Colin has said that on many occasions lol
606 Tonytoon73 // Aug 27, 2012 at 9:36 PM
JackButler is Mike Ashley’s love child, WWYCD is a mackem and eaststand is a pitch fork warrior. LOL
607 johnboy // Aug 27, 2012 at 9:38 PM
Belfast
Are you telling me Colin is a lier? Ha! My world has been turned upside down!
608 beddersmag // Aug 27, 2012 at 9:39 PM
Ochytoon
If your gona pull stats out on big andy you might as well chuck in his premiership goals for the toon. Sure he got 15 in 30ish which makes his overall stats more realistic, and as has been mentioned lots of sub appearances dont help. Another way of framing it might be when a team plays to his strengths he gets a goal every two games. Theres a mark twain quote comes to mind on stats…..
609 seantoon // Aug 27, 2012 at 9:40 PM
I don’t believe it’s true this 17m bid. But if it’s was I think it’s a bad idea. With that money I’d much prefer to get 4 decent first team players in for eg Debuchy, Zaha, Sean Murray, and a quality CB for around 5mill. This way we could challenge for Europe and the league and the cups without worrying about knackered players. Also we would be investing in future England stars in my eyes
610 ochytoon // Aug 27, 2012 at 9:41 PM
Bedders
I rated him when he played for us at the time but looking back, he wasn’t really all that. The two Demba’s are miles ahead ability wise and I don’t see the point in splashing out £15 mil for a bench warmer.
611 johnboy // Aug 27, 2012 at 9:43 PM
Lies, damned lies and statistics
612 BelfastMagpie // Aug 27, 2012 at 9:44 PM
Haha
Fair play to that c*** Colin..
He’s been outed on many occasions & still persists with his bullshit..lol
And there’s a load of people on that twatter who still believe him for some reason..
613 Tonytoon73 // Aug 27, 2012 at 9:44 PM
Carroll or Remy?
614 nico // Aug 27, 2012 at 9:46 PM
Carroll £15m
Debuchy 6m
Douglas / Pieters 5m
That would mean our net spend was 25m still behind any of the top sides spends once Man City have finished.
Will it happen, will it shite?
I think all 3 players are needed in order to challenge top 5/6 and compete in the cups.
If we were to get just one player who would you pick?
Think I’d go for Carroll as we need an extra forward, especially if Pards is going to keep playing 4-4-2.
615 ochytoon // Aug 27, 2012 at 9:47 PM
Remy
Would add some much needed pace to our frontline.
616 nico // Aug 27, 2012 at 9:48 PM
I don’t think the Demba’s are any better than Carroll as he brings a totally different dimension to his game. The Demba’s are quite poor at comp-eting in the air when knocked up to them, Carroll isn’t. The 2 Demba’s never look like scoring from a set peice cross, Carroll always looks dangerous.
617 beddersmag // Aug 27, 2012 at 9:49 PM
I do think its a lot of money but if he stays and has a great career with us it would be worth it. Sholas our only real target man and in 30s so hed be a useful option and our african guys would both love playing off him. Need a centre half and full back first though. Yeah 3 types of lies. Great quote and so true. Can use stats to say anything you want
618 ochytoon // Aug 27, 2012 at 9:50 PM
Well tbh I wouldn’t mind if we didn’t get either. I’d much rarther spend less on a youngster in the Niang/Konate mould.
619 johnboy // Aug 27, 2012 at 9:51 PM
Pretty certain you could get remy for less than the £15m for Carroll, that would be the better deal
620 nico // Aug 27, 2012 at 9:53 PM
Here is something for Ashley to think about.
If we brought in 3 players now for 25 million we would be good to go for at least 2 seasons without buying anyone else e.g. big money. By then the youngsters will be coming through and we wouldn’t need to spend big again, unless one of our top stars was sold for 25-30m. It’s a 5 year plan, but plans need to change and adapt. Wouldn’t it be great if this was in their plans.
621 BelfastMagpie // Aug 27, 2012 at 9:55 PM
I would love for him to come back & bang in the goals & be back to his old self. lol
On the other hand it could be another Robbie Keane..
All the Spurs fans over the moon Robbie’s coming home etc etc etc
Should never have left us etc etc
Now playing for L.a Galaxy Ha ha ha
That sounded a big negative….
622 beddersmag // Aug 27, 2012 at 9:57 PM
Remy would suit the style of play id prefer to see but cant help thinking we would be a stopgap whereas with carrol this is where he wants to be and he would grow 6 inches pulling on the black and white again. Tbh id take either please ashley. You pick
623 BelfastMagpie // Aug 27, 2012 at 10:00 PM
I’ve a funny feeling Remy will go to Arsenal..
I know they said that they dont want another striker,but I think they’ll sign one in the end..
624 beddersmag // Aug 27, 2012 at 10:04 PM
Belfast mag
Strange as it seems i think andy would come back a better player. Seems to have sorted his bad habits out and approaching his peak whereas keane was on the slide. Plus hes still filling out and will get stronger which is when he will be really scary. Long balls not pretty but theres a lot to be said for a guy who can win nearly every header. The dembas would feed off that. Only as an option though please pardew i dont want us turning into stoke
625 Magpies-till-d3ath // Aug 27, 2012 at 10:06 PM
Definately Remy!!!!!! Carroll is a DONKEY!!
626 BelfastMagpie // Aug 27, 2012 at 10:10 PM
I hope your right beddars…
627 ToonAndy // Aug 27, 2012 at 10:14 PM
beddersmag – “Tbh I’d take either please Ashley. You pick”
Slight typo there buddy… Should have been
“Tbh I’d take either please Ashley. You prick”
628 roadfighter // Aug 27, 2012 at 10:14 PM
@ Nico, I wouldn’t say the Dembas are poor in the air. I tend to think they haven’t had enough service. Plus its early days still this season.
It wouldn’t surprise me if soon we start playing Raylor on RB due to not buying another fullback. Plus with Marveux hopefully getting more match time. We could probably improve the quality of crosses into the box. And then give Papiss and Ba more opportunities.
On the Carroll deal for 17 mil, I’m not sure if NUFC are willing to pay such high transfer fees. Plus thats a lot which we couldspend on other areas. But if we sign him I’ll support him 100%
At the end of the day any new faces brought in would be great. I’d be happy with perhaps keeping all our players and signing at least one player.
Proud Toon fan for life …!!!
629 Grafton83 // Aug 27, 2012 at 10:16 PM
Remy will still go to Spuds, they’re flush with £££ from Modric sale and desperatly short of options upfront.
We won’t sign anyone for 12m+ it’s completly against out transfer policy. We buy young undervalued players not proven over priced ones. This is also why Debuchy won’t happen either, too old and since the euros he’s now too expensive as well.
Eric Pieters is a much more likely target. He’s cheap, undervalued, fairly young and wouldn’t cost too much in wages.
Possibly we may also have a young striker on the way but we would only spend a small amount. Forget about Remy, Caroll or M’Vila.
630 roadfighter // Aug 27, 2012 at 10:22 PM
Oh one more thing… anyone watching Atletico Madrid vs Athletic Bilbao?
Falcao just scored a hat trick, 2 great goals plus one penalty. Tend to think most people don’t rate him highly for some reason. Everyone mentions Rooney, Zlatan, Cavani, Gomez, RvP, etc .. not much about Falcao. I think he’s tremendous… capable of almost anything on the pitch..
631 Big Pappa Cissé // Aug 27, 2012 at 10:26 PM
@ roadfighter
Radamel Falcao is a beast and up there with the best strikers in the world. I told my m8 who is a Man U fan that they should have bought him instead of Van Persie
632 beddersmag // Aug 27, 2012 at 10:27 PM
Toon andy
Ha ha yeah it WAS a type error i meant prick
Its not crosses where dembas struggle its goal kicks and long balls. When the balls in the air longer and a defenders in your back physicality becomes more important. Plus they dont seem to have the bottle to compete properly in that aspect. Go through the motions at times and on other days they do ok. Other attributes though im not slating them
633 Transfer Sage // Aug 27, 2012 at 10:28 PM
Anyone thinking Ashley is gambling this year.
Here is one theory.
We have some good youngsters and signed a couple more this summer cheaply.
We have brought in two senior players in amalfitano (23) and Anita (23).
Maybe the plan is to bring in 3/4/5 youngsters each year who aren’t ready for first team, get them up to speed and play them 1/2/3 years down the line when they are ready.
This might prove a problem this year as we haven’t got many first teamers in but if we keep going we will have 2/3 players coming into the first team every year from the development squad meaning we wont need to buy many ‘ready made’ players…possibly just the one a year?
any thoughts guy?
ps….not saying this is right or wrong way to do things, just an idea of whats happening.
634 spudzzz // Aug 27, 2012 at 10:34 PM
@roadfighter
Falcao would be great….but he is out of our league…..at.madrid paid 40 million euros for him last year….i doubt at madrid would let him go for less than they paid….meaning we would have to pay between 25 to 30 million pounds
635 beddersmag // Aug 27, 2012 at 10:35 PM
Transfer sage
Agreed. seems a canny way to do it. So long as you supplement that with the odd player in mid twenties who are approaching their peak, and replace the big sales with quality for less. Cant keep doing it as well as we have though imo. People see us interested in players and will know we done our homework so will try tap them and pay more i fear
636 spudzzz // Aug 27, 2012 at 10:35 PM
@roadfighter
Falcao would be great….but he is out of our league…..at.madrid paid 40 million euros for him last year….i doubt at madrid would let him go for less than they paid….meaning we would have to pay between 25 to 30 million pounds
637 nufc90 // Aug 27, 2012 at 10:45 PM
I remember we were linked to falcao once when he was at river plate… What a player, surprised noones gone in for him or cavani this summer
638 roadfighter // Aug 27, 2012 at 10:49 PM
@ Spudzzz – in no way am I suggesting that we should or could even think of going after him. But yes he would cost a great deal should. Just saying that he could do with more credit
He would cost around 35 mil perhaps… an Andy Carroll sort of fee
639 Szarka // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:01 PM
Falcao is highly rated, but after AT.Madrid payed 40 mill euros for him, nobody is interested of buying him, and Atletico isnt interested in selling him. Only the likes of PSG, City or Chelsea could go after him, and would need hillarius money to make a change, so hes not in the papers right now.
640 darrenfletcher88 // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:13 PM
Any one no if I orderd tickets online tomora morning can u get next day deliverey??
641 nufc90 // Aug 27, 2012 at 11:17 PM
I thought Atletico owed the tax man hundreds of millions worth of debt though so quite surprised they didn’t at least try to cash in.
Anyway can’t wait for the window to shut so all the papers can start writing about our blip coming and how we haven’t played anyone yet instead of linking all our players away! Can never win with the national media
642 Sav // Aug 28, 2012 at 1:11 AM
Hoy!…
Ashley!…
Get Shefki Kuqi on the dog ‘n’ bone NOW!!!!
643 Lee Dodd // Aug 28, 2012 at 10:37 AM
I Think Its all about if we go through on thursday evening. If so we will get 3 players in on friday and nowt if we dont !! Carroll is just to much money unless a load deal can be agreed.
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