Rodgers Admits Liverpool To Offload Andy Carroll

It seems that Liverpool do indeed want to unload Andy Carroll before the summer transfer window runs out on Friday night, and news last night that the Geordie striker has again been offered to both West Ham United and Newcastle United.

Andy Carroll – surplus to requirements at Liverpool

With the very disappointing news that Real Madrid have quickly agreed a fee of just €7M for Mathieu Debuchy of Lille, maybe Newcastle will try to get Andy Carroll through the door before Friday night – but maybe not.

As we reported yesterday new manager Brendan Rodgers is keen to sign Clint Dempsey from Fulham, and the news is that Liverpool and Fulham are close to a fee for the American striker, and it seems that Liverpool could also move in for the available Theo Walcott from Arsenal.

But the American owners will need to get some money into the club’s coffers before they pay out maybe as much as £20M for Dempsey and Walcott, and Andy Carroll is one player at Liverpool who could get them somewhere near that figure.

And as we half expected Brendan Rodgers is starting to change his tune on Carroll, as it becomes obvious by the day, the striker has no future at Liverpool, under Brendan Rodgers.

This is what Brendan said last night:

“I don’t think we are in a position to have £35M players as third choice strikers, or wingers who are on £5M-£6M a year. This is the challenge I have.”  “You don’t need to be a rocket scientist to see Andy Carroll has been a cover player for us.”

“He’s been excellent in terms of his attitude and acceptance of where he is at, but as a football club – and I’m talking generically here – the reality is, financially, we need to repair.”  “I’m talking in terms of salaries. That’s reality.”

“Unfortunately, it is going to take more than one window. The transition of the squad may take us until next summer.” “Some players here, even though you want to move them on, because of wages and other factors they are not going to just walk out the door. It’s going to take time to build that.”

So Rodgers is finally admitting what most people knew weeks ago, that Carroll would be offloaded to cut the wage bill, and help with the incoming transfers the new Liverpool manager wants to complete before the summer transfer window ends on Friday night.

But good news for Liverpool – Newcastle are willing to pay £13M for the big lad – and Andy is very willing to rejoin Newcastle, his home town club, although the latest news yesterday was that Liverpool now want £17M.

By late Friday night they may have reduced that figure to around £14M, and Newcastle could just about get him through the door very late on Friday.

We think the chances are decent that we can do just that.

But we were really disappointed that Newcastle were unwilling to pay that little bit extra to get Debuchy through the door, so we’ll not be holding our breath – well not too much anyway.

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174 comments so far

  • Kyo

    Aug 30, 2012 at 1:34 AM

    Comment #1

    Andy Carroll isn’t worth the money but seeing as how everything has gone against us in this window, watch Ashley pay Alan Shearer levels of money to bring him back. Fat kernt.

  • spitfire_

    Aug 30, 2012 at 1:49 AM

    Comment #2

    As Officer Crabtree said “Good lick” to Liver-pull with the 17 mill price tag.

  • jawballsaswallwell

    Aug 30, 2012 at 1:52 AM

    Comment #3

    Carroll wasn’t worth 17million when we sold him to Liverpool for 35, but as an established international striker at 23, he is now, to any team that can accommodate his style of play. We should bring this player back, he has matured and developed into a top pro and he is a legitimate Newcastle number 9. This signing would complete a very good transfer window.

  • JackButler

    Aug 30, 2012 at 1:58 AM

    Comment #4

    Signing Carroll without two defenders coming in as well will be pointless

  • ilovetoon8788

    Aug 30, 2012 at 2:14 AM

    Comment #5

    Can’t believe we lost out on debuchy to Madrid. We had all summer from the end of last season even. Cabaye was crying for him to come here. And because we were not willing to pay another 2 million. He’s gone. Lol. It’s brilliant being a Newcastle fan.

    If we are not willing to even pay 1 million more for a world class defender. I can’t see us signing anyone. Let’s pray we stay in injury free I defence. It’s paper thin.

  • RonVanDam

    Aug 30, 2012 at 2:28 AM

    Comment #6

    If Debuchy story is true, im supporting Everton this season

  • Blaydon-Toon

    Aug 30, 2012 at 2:31 AM

    Comment #7

    Joke is on us …. We will make Liverpool stronger if we buy the big man back as they will invest it in Dempsey and or Walcott- who is well over rated but better than Downing !

  • USToonRaider

    Aug 30, 2012 at 2:34 AM

    Comment #8

    Consider perhaps Lille did not want to deal with the Toon after we stole Cabaye?

    On another point, perhaps they didnt want to give Debuchy what he wanted.

    Debuchy is not a 4th place finish by himself, and while Cabaye wanted him, we must expect Cabaye to stay engaged and driven to succeed….Its not as if Debuchy went to another league team.

  • Redman

    Aug 30, 2012 at 2:42 AM

    Comment #9

    As much as he might prefer a return to Newcastle, what is Carroll going to do on Friday when the only acceptable offer has come from West Ham?

    For all the tittle-tattle, there is nothing to suggest Newcastle are serious about taking big Andy home and the sooner he realises that, the sooner he can stop wishing his career away and join a club that actually wants him.

  • Toon73

    Aug 30, 2012 at 2:54 AM

    Comment #10

    Positive: We passed up on Debuchy because we have a better option coming in tomorrow 🙂

    Negative: Ashley is a tightfisted wanker with no ambition for the Club 🙁

  • Sav

    Aug 30, 2012 at 2:54 AM

    Comment #11

    Heaven forbid I should be an apologist for Ashley – I still don’t like him or Llambias – when many on here (yes, you too, Ed) were saying they were so great and doing fantastic cut-price deals. I still don’t trust either of them.
    But we don’t know the ins and outs of this deal for Debuchy. If, as claimed, Lille gazumped Newcastle after a deal had been struck, sometimes you need to show you can walk away.
    As far as Carroll goes, the stumbling block, as Rodgers is pointing out, is the wages these guys are on, not so much the fee between the clubs. No wonder we have a limit of 12 million if we then have to start paying Carroll 4 million a year for his 5 year contract.
    By the way, whatever happened to this scheme of clubs only paying out what they generate? It seems to have disappeared back up Papin’s jacksie.

  • 89Norcal

    Aug 30, 2012 at 3:20 AM

    Comment #12

    As some have mentioned, Carroll does NOT bring another attacking dimension. I would much rather see us spend money on a striker with pace, or a proper winger. That’s what we need in a 4-3-3, not another target man.

  • fungus44

    Aug 30, 2012 at 3:32 AM

    Comment #13

    Debuchy could well still refuse to go and wait for us ton go for him in jan ,wishful thinking

  • Ben3arfa

    Aug 30, 2012 at 4:02 AM

    Comment #14

    where are all the Ashley-huggers in here?

    how are you fellas feeling today? a little bit pissed off ? .. 800k is what stood between us and one of the best RBs in Europe and our tight a– regime couldnt fork it out

    yet they are willing to break our transfer record for a player that was a regular bench warmer in a sub-standard team . and i even doubt that will even happen

    I expect either Cabaye or Tiote to be out of here come Saturday

  • spitfire_

    Aug 30, 2012 at 4:26 AM

    Comment #15

    Why always is Ashley’s fault? I don’t to be his lawyer but as far as I know he have the FINAL WORD around the transfers… this doesn’t mean that he is involved directly in negotiating. There’s money to spend… that’s obvious… we tried to buy De Jong… now The Donkey… The problem, the huge problem are Llambias and Lee Charnley. The first one didn’t have any kind of experience running a football club… and the second… I don’t know anything about him… even how he looks. They both move on the transfer market really slow chaotic and inconsistent. We f’d up in the near past Twente and Lille so in that case it’s more than obvious with our “tight ass” transfer policy the two transfers will not gonna happend or if gonna happend this will be after long and exhausting negotiations. We should move to the next target a long time ago. Instead yesterday we heard “Agents keep offering us players but we scout our own players”… that’s very good but only with looking doesn’t work.

  • q8igeordie

    Aug 30, 2012 at 4:46 AM

    Comment #16

    You idiots … lol .. seriously .. go freakin support evertoon … when was debuchy known as the 2nd best rright back … most of you saw him play 2 games… mike ashley is not playing a game .. he is running the club the right way … and whats that thing with ashley lovers/huggers/kisses whatever … what are you guys like 12 … ed… you should keep the 18+… so if i am an ashley hugger .. i must support newcastle … what about you… lol .. i almost forgot .. people read an article on debuchy and suddenly hes the 2nd best ever right back lol … whatever happened to taking the kids to school

  • ganiyu

    Aug 30, 2012 at 5:11 AM

    Comment #17

    We currently have 24 players over the age of 20 yrs+,My conclusion is that its either we sign the missing defender or we sell one of our best player(s) to buy/generate funds for january window/or get a better player in the starting 11.

  • q8igeordie

    Aug 30, 2012 at 5:49 AM

    Comment #18

    I for one would rather ashley the club than a bunch of footy manager geeks

  • q8igeordie

    Aug 30, 2012 at 5:52 AM

    Comment #19

    Rvd … i bet you said you would support wolves after they won their first 2 games

  • q8igeordie

    Aug 30, 2012 at 6:04 AM

    Comment #20

    We have the 3rd best strikeforce behind city and utd .. a really excellent indepth midfield … and one of thebest cbs and young goalkeepers in the league … and u guys are dissapointed we lost to the european champions on their ground … debuchy is a simpson like rightback .. debuchy wasnt known 3 months ago but now all of sudden an article comes out.. and he starts for the poor france because sagna is injured .. he becomes the 2nd best right back lol … alba would tear debuchy apart .. let alone messi sanchez iniesta and alves

  • Toon73

    Aug 30, 2012 at 6:06 AM

    Comment #21

    Another day, another drama, and more tension on the blog

  • ~Anita One Bites the Dust~

    Aug 30, 2012 at 6:07 AM

    Comment #22

    Carroll wasn’t worth 17million when we sold him to Liverpool for 35, but as an established international striker at 23, he is now, to any team that can accommodate his style of play. We should bring this player back, he has matured and developed into a top pro and he is a legitimate Newcastle number 9. This signing would complete a very good transfer window.


    What a load of cr@p.

    Andy Carroll has been piss poor for 1 and a half season’s now. yet his value rises because he played for England recently?

    Have you forgotten that Rooney was suspended for two games, Sturridge wasn’t included. Bent was injured and Defoe had family problems he had to deal with off the pitch.

    I highly doubt he would have been selected, if Rooney was illegible, if bent was fit and if Defoe didn’t have to endure a death within his family.

    Fact of the matter is, 1 game for England should not raise a players value. TYou should value a player based on his recent form, his age and his potential.

    What we have seen so far from Carroll is,

    No potential to adapt to a different style of play, Rather then adapting to liverpools style of play, they had to change to hoof ball everytime that clown stepped foot onto the pitch.

    He has been shite for 1 and a half seasons. 6 goals in 42 games. Fletcher scored 7 headers in 26 games for a relegated team. Yet he is valued lower?. Come on. Have some common sense here. Carroll is barely worth half of that 17 mill

  • King Arfa

    Aug 30, 2012 at 6:13 AM

    Comment #23

    looks like remy is out the question now that Levy is on route 2 france 2 sign him yet another great bit of fantastic buisness by Cashley not bein pessimistic here but THIS IS THE WORSE WINDOW EVER its ok sayin we got sum gud youngins in but 1st teamer all summer complete f*ckin joke dont care if i get slagged off but iv just wrote wat every 1 thinks after watchin sky sports news this fine morning rant over lots ov love King Arfa

  • Szarka

    Aug 30, 2012 at 6:17 AM

    Comment #24

    If he wouldnt be a Gerdie, or english, U woudnt pay more then 9 mill.
    Thats just silly money for him, mostly because he was our hero for 6 months.

  • Szarka

    Aug 30, 2012 at 6:20 AM

    Comment #25

    Debuchy isnt the best and only RB in the world. But why cant we move on, buy another RB, like Mbiwa or someone else.

  • bobby_ollox

    Aug 30, 2012 at 6:31 AM

    Comment #26

    Selling AC for £35M was irresistible. Buying him back for even half that will appeal to MA just for the crack.

    For the team, it would be no bad thing. Being able to switch between two radically different attacking systems will really cause teams problems setting up their defence against us.

    Cant stand still.

  • solano

    Aug 30, 2012 at 6:44 AM

    Comment #27

    Carroll is the only deal in town – or so it seems.
    These jokers in charge will have let a fantastic opportunityslip through the club’s hands. This summer was almost unique as our 5th place finish was a great selling point to potential signings and we had the chance to steal a march on at least 3 nearest rivals who had new managers and new ideas to implement, if we had strengthened in the 3 areas which Pards had identified. Pardew is no mug -or sunday pub team manager (that’s for you, Rotonda) 😉 – but his words of saying we “over-achieved” last season and then his subsequent and gradual talking down of further recruitment is indicative of the regime’s tightwaddery and refusal to believe that NUFC can be anything other than a club who will look on with envy as the “big” clubs scramble for real success. Obsession with money-making and balance sheets and promises of jam tomorrow are wearing very thin.
    The Carroll deal can still happen THIS window – and I for one hope it does – but I just don’t think it will be enough and may well be at the expense of a last minute outgoing deal from midfield – arguably, the only unnecessary area we strengthened.
    Don’t lose faith, tagnuts. There’s always January – when the next Virgin Money Cheque arrives.

  • fog on the tyne

    Aug 30, 2012 at 6:45 AM

    Comment #28

    Who the fu€¥ does rodgers think he is? How can you be so disrespectful to a player, at end of day Carrol is THE best english centre forward at this time, and to hold him in such disregard is disgusting. He should be ashamed. And judging by the kops reaction to him coming on sunday, i dont think the scouse supporters will be too happy with thier managers statement. All because Carrol nearly ripped his head off when he nutted him, and got the geordie kiss back. Come home andy!!!!!!!

  • Premiership Manager

    Aug 30, 2012 at 6:48 AM

    Comment #29

    Lots of negative comments regarding both Ashley and Carroll but I do wonder if any of the posters actually understand business, football or the running of a club.

    Ashley and Co have done a very good jobof turning the club around. We are one of the most financially stable clubs in Europe, have a very good team, a good reserve team and a good youth development system.

    Debuchy as a defender is not a great improvement on Simpson but he is better going forward however give any player the choise of Real Madrid or Newcastle and there is only one answer. It’s not as if Debuchy’s agent wouldn’t have had his finger on the button and would have been working on the best deal for him and the player.

    With reference to Carroll Ashley, if interested will wait until the last minute before putting Liverpool up agaist the wall. My guess would be £10-12M cash + add on’s depending on performance and appearances.

    At that price bearing in mind the AN, Carrols defensive role and his ability to unsettle and take two defenders out of the equation during set pieces is not a bad price.

    There is no doubt that he is a better player than when he left and we wouldn’t necessarily have to play hoof ball either as we have a much better team who will be able to exploit Carrolls virtues. Also don’t forget that Carroll was playing with Nolan and I believe that with Ba or Cisse playing along side him he will be a bigger asset.

    Is he worth £10-12M that for Ashley to decide as he will not pay OTT but on the positive side £28M for a loan deal does seem to be good compensation for the Owen saga. My guess is Rogers may also be one of the next manages to be given the boot which will nicely remove Liverpool from the top 4 equation.

    The other thing to bear in mind is that Carroll will also have to take a substantial wage cut so if he does come back you have to say fair play for hime being willing to take the cut to wear the black and white.

    It’s not that long ago many on here were saying to Ashley and Pardew give him what he wants to stay, he’s the best No 9 in the PL but in typical fashion it’s now another story.

  • ppb

    Aug 30, 2012 at 6:54 AM

    Comment #30

    @premiership agree that bringing ac on alongside ba or cisse, who have a habit of being there for the scraps would look tasty. ac is better all around than when he left he’s just out of form in a team which can’t serve him.

  • solano

    Aug 30, 2012 at 6:57 AM

    Comment #31

    Prem Manager…what has the owen deal got to do with Liverpool?
    The reserve team was more or less disbanded last year and the youth team promoted – incredibly, we will have to dip into them more frequently – and possibly stall their development – if we get injuries in certain positions.
    Judging by your pseudonym – you keep playing the game and believing that these shysters have the supporters best interests at heart. As they say, “you can’t fool all of the people, all of the time”…or something like that.

  • steveno7

    Aug 30, 2012 at 7:02 AM

    Comment #32

    Yes i would have andy back contry to what people think he will add more to our team . u that call him probs the same people who will be chanting his name when he scores .assuming he comes homes

  • nicktoon

    Aug 30, 2012 at 7:05 AM

    Comment #33

    Tottenham chairman in marseille to sign remy- this just gets better

  • ppb

    Aug 30, 2012 at 7:09 AM

    Comment #34

    @nick spurs still won’t look great. modric was a massive loss. plus they just got 30million. talk about rushing out and blowing your pocket money on new toys

  • Ben3arfa

    Aug 30, 2012 at 7:11 AM

    Comment #35

    q8igeordie stop justifying mediocrity

    Debuchy would have upgraded our team as a threat on the wings , hes is WAY better than Simpson . Saying he is Simpson like to try and justify your point doesnt make any sense at all

    From the way you described our team above, youd think we’re challenging for the title , like “a really excellent indepth midfield” u serious? lol

    if Cabaye is injured or sold , then our whole attacking impetus and playmaking will be gone .. Last year we had Guthrie, who filled in admirably this year who is there? 20 year old Vukic or Dan Gosling?

    Same goes for our strikers, imagine if both Ba and Cisse are injure, all we have is Shola and a 17 year old .. not so excellent now

    Just be more realistic and try handle peoples opinions and frustrations better ..

  • Brutooon

    Aug 30, 2012 at 7:13 AM

    Comment #36

    Andy THE TRAITOR Carroll !!!!!!!!

  • Grafton83

    Aug 30, 2012 at 7:14 AM

    Comment #37

    I don’t believe we are really in for Caroll. The club have been following a strict transfer policy of buying foriegn undervalued players. It’s worked out great so far, I really don’t think they’ll break thier own rules to sign Andy as much as I’d love to see him back where he belongs.

    To all of those who have thrown thier toys out the pram following this window, how about we wait and see how the team performs in a few matches first before we write the whole season off. There’s no need to hit the panic button just yet.

  • bills-son

    Aug 30, 2012 at 7:14 AM

    Comment #38

    Solano you sad little man, where were you on this blog when we were being ‘lucky’ on our run to finishing fifth last season? Why didnt you come on and post after each match that we were lucky instead of hiding under your shell? As I’ve said before you are DESPERATE for NUFC to have a crap season so that you can restore your shattered credibility on this blog. What a sad man.

    Lets remind the blog of some of your claims; sold our future by selling Carroll, relegation material last season, Ashley will only sign has beens and mediocrity, will sell any decent player as soon as he can turn a profit, revolving door selling club policy, blah, blah, crap, blah.

    All proven wrong, and now you are back with your doom and gloom Ashley filled hatred jumping on the ‘no signings no ambition’ over reaction bandwagon. You are the biggest joke on this forum solano, by a mile.

  • bills-son

    Aug 30, 2012 at 7:19 AM

    Comment #39

    By the way, re my post above, solano has posted that we were just lucky to finish fifth last season. Nowt to do with Krul, Collo, Tiote, Cabaye, HBA, Ba or Cisse or Pardew. All signed by or given new contracts under solano’s arch enemy Ashley.

    Lucky my arse.

  • Grafton83

    Aug 30, 2012 at 7:20 AM

    Comment #40

    And if Andy does come back SJP will back him 100%, a geordie son coming home it would be epic. The voice of those who’ve been calling him a traitor won’t be so loud on that day.

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