Pardew – Squad Is Stronger Than Last Year At This Time


In the two polls we are running 47% of readers think the Newcastle squad is stronger than it was last year at this time, even though 74% of fans are dissatisfied with the  summer transfer window, and would presumably have liked to see more players brought to Tyneside.

Alan Pardew – squad is stronger than last year

Newcastle spent a net £3M in the transfer market and brought in four very good signings in Romain Amalfitano, Gael Bigirimnana, Curtis Good and Vurnon Anita, but only Vurnon Anita is a player who can immediately challenge for a first team place, and that’s not too many – one.

When asked if Newcastle were weaker than they were last year at this time, Alan Pardew had this to say in the Sunday Sun today:

“I do disagree with that.”  “I think it has got stronger. What we will know in nine months time is if the experience we gained last season was beneficial. If we use the confidence and experience we gained last season we are going to be stronger.”

“And we are going to need to be.”  “We have put in Vurnon Anita who I think is going to be a big player for us. He gives us a load more options. He can play full-back and give us several different midfield options.”

It seemed a good opportunity in the summer to bring in players like Douglas, Debuchy and a young striker.

And Newcastle could have done that for around £12M, but for whatever reason Newcastle backed off on the Debuchy and Douglas deals.

And we think we know the reason, Newcastle would not meet the fee their clubs wanted for them, and that’s not a new occurrence at Newcastle.

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32 comments so far

  • zacharias

    Sep 2, 2012 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #1

    The team is definitely stronger to compete in the league, but does it have enough depth to compete on all 4 fronts?

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  • Dannyo

    Sep 2, 2012 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #2

    How on earth do people see this squad as weaker or the same as last season?
    Do they not know that these players know eachother now, the younger players have become even more of a force, we have the confidence and experience as a team from last season?

    I’m seriously impressed if u fail to see us weaker than last season.
    We’re 2 strikers down, and how much did they contribute last season? If we play 4-3-3, 4-5-1, 4-2-3-1, how many strikers do u play on top then?

    Come on, bullocks to think we’re weaker.

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  • Grafton83

    Sep 2, 2012 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #3

    I’m struggling to think of another team that would be more dissapointed with player purchases this summer. We will still have a good season it’s just not going to be easy to finish 5th and qualify for Europe again so it feels like we’ve moved backwards in a way.

    Anyway, could be alot worse, now the windows closed may as well stop thinking about it and enjoy yourself supporting the team.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Sep 2, 2012 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #4

    My biggest criticism of the club is not transfer related but academy related.

    They say they want to develop their own, sign youngsters and bring them through to avoid silly money being paid on ready made players.

    If that’s true why did they not ensure the academy was up to scratch to get level one status and not level two.

    Sunderland and Middlesbrough got them so what has our club done wrong.

    That’s my issue with the current regime.

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  • zacharias

    Sep 2, 2012 at 11:12 AM

    Comment #5

    The team is definitely stronger to compete in the league, but does it have enough depth to compete on all 4 fronts? We need better scheduling of the games

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  • Grafton83

    Sep 2, 2012 at 11:15 AM

    Comment #6

    Very good point Sage, someone dropped the ball there, that’s for sure.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Sep 2, 2012 at 11:16 AM

    Comment #7

    Gradton

    Arsenal have a much worse window than us.

    Spurs for all they did well are now without vdv, king and modric. Also missing pavlychenko from this time last year.

    Liverpool have had a poor window, lost Adam and Carroll. Only player of note they brought in is sahin. Borrini hasn’t impressed yet and his record isn’t terrific.

    I think a lot of clubs have had poor windows and this that have spent a lot have done so off the back of selling big players.

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  • stuart no9

    Sep 2, 2012 at 11:17 AM

    Comment #8

    only a couple of days ago pards was foaming , and asking ash to buy some replacements. he must have got a right rollicking from ash to change his mind. now all of a sudden were stronger than last year .make your mind up pards.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Sep 2, 2012 at 11:18 AM

    Comment #9

    Grafton

    Was any reason given why we didn’t achieve it?

    And do you know when we can next apply to be upgraded? Is it annual or on a rollin basis, when you meet the requirements it’s given right away?

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  • dave 1961

    Sep 2, 2012 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #10

    Dannyo
    maybe because we lost 4 squad players and replaced then with 1, you maybe correct in assuming we are a little better quality wise, but less is always weaker, we lost 9 development players and got 3 replacements, stronger no better yes, as long as we stay clear of injury’s the gamble might work, but a worrying time until January.

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  • Hatem's better than Messi

    Sep 2, 2012 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #11

    @zacharias

    Memo to God :-

    If the whole thing is all on a big fcuking loop …

    Next time round take eight days to make the universe so NUFC can get an extra rest day when playing in the Europa League.

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  • Dannyo

    Sep 2, 2012 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #12

    @Grafton83

    NUFC Stats ?@NUFC_Stats
    3 PL clubs spent less on players than NUFC in the transfer window but 8 clubs had a lower net spend (TransferLeague)

    There are other clubs more dissapointed mate.

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  • Szarka

    Sep 2, 2012 at 11:19 AM

    Comment #13

    Last year we were knocked out of both cups early , and had no EL matches. Now we have at least 6 more matches then last year, plus we wanna do better at the cups. Does the same squad is enough for it?

    We lost two strikers, none came in. We lost reserve players only, but remember Norvich, when we had 0!!! CB, the likes of Simpson had to go in the middle. Do we have a good squad? does it enough for this year to archive the same, or even better? Dont think so.

    The squad will have to work harder, play in more positions, whivh they may not like, and we gonna hav more injuries because we wont have enough cover. Fatigue will make the likes of Cissé produce less.

    All will be solved in one way: send out the youngs, drop out, so we only gonna have the EPL as priority.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Sep 2, 2012 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #14

    Stuart

    If pardew can out and said we are weaker lot only might it annoy Ashley it could also dishearten the players.

    Privately I’m sure pardew will have been telling Ashley and llambias to sign people he wanted.

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  • Hatem's better than Messi

    Sep 2, 2012 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #15

    Dannyo

    Why was Best sold?

    Surely as Lovenkrands was going too, a replacement striker was a must? 100% needed!

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  • jawballsaswallwell

    Sep 2, 2012 at 11:21 AM

    Comment #16

    This is the 1st Newcastle squad I’ve seen, and I’ve seen many, that doesn’t have a single player I’d question was worthy of the shirt. Top men! Even Gabby Obertan, who is so strangely ugly yet urbane looking that he surely has more than has met the eye thus far.

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  • Grafton83

    Sep 2, 2012 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #17

    I’m only saying more dissapointed in terms of player purchases, not overall. You are right though there are examples of worse.

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  • Transfer Sage

    Sep 2, 2012 at 11:24 AM

    Comment #18

    I don’t mind having cisse Ba shola and Campbell as our strikers providing Campbell gets played.

    I think Campbell is ready but if pardew doesnt he probably isn’t ready.

    I think ferguson will do a lot this year if he keeps fit. Those international games he keeps getting can only speed up his development.

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  • Dannyo

    Sep 2, 2012 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #19

    @dave1961
    U cannot possibly start to talk about the development players man.
    They had no future in the PL and would not ever be used. They where bodies at best, bodies which were never touched last season.
    Lost squad players? Tavernier is in the fold this season, didn’t feature any last.
    Biggie is a squad player, pushing for a first team spot, AP has said so himself, he’s said the same on Good, Amalfitano. Add Anita on that.
    That’s 5 squad players.
    Smith is certainly not a loss from last year, so don’t count him.
    Then add Vuckic, Sammy, Campbell, Fergy, another 4 squad players, with maybe Campbell the least chance to see action yet. Still usable tho.

    The only sever loss we’ve had imo, is Guthrie and mabe Best. Anitas there and is far more versatile too, Campbell can be Best replacement, with time.

    How are we not stronger? Strength and depth are not the same thing btw.

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  • Jail for Ashley

    Sep 2, 2012 at 11:28 AM

    Comment #20

    This is not a dig just a genuine curiosity,somebody yesterday published a load of stats about finance,net spend etc,I noticed that the130M debt Mashley inherited is still the same how can that be with a net profit of something like 40M in transfers TV revenue,pies and lager and that,I know some people on here vehemently deny that Mashley isn’t taking money from the club,but why isn’t the debt being reduced.

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Sep 2, 2012 at 11:35 AM

    Comment #21

    JFA
    As far as i understand it the debt is intrest free and will only be paid when the club is sold, not saying thats right just what i was told a couple of years back

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  • Sav

    Sep 2, 2012 at 11:50 AM

    Comment #22

    Are we stronger now than we ended last season? That is the question.
    We are 2 strikers (Best and Lovenkrands) lighter than in May and we are quite likely to lose the pair we do have for several weeks in winter. How is that stronger? There’s now a general conviction that Williamson is not really up to the job other than occasional cover, so how is that stronger? We are in an extra cup competition, so how does that make us stronger?
    Where we have strengthened is mostly in midfield where we were already quite strong although Anita is not as comfortable as Guthrie.
    Personally, I hope Senegal qualify. That will focus the minds of Mashley and Co. on finding that back-up striker we need and doing the deal on Jan.1.
    If we lose Tiote they will hope we muddle through 4 weeks of ACN without him, losing crucial points no doubt along the way.
    If not it will be watching Shola limp off with a tweaked tendon and pulled hamstring or Obertan forced to embarrass us all as a makeshift no.9.

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  • naptoon

    Sep 2, 2012 at 12:01 PM

    Comment #23

    hope pardews right in his assessment feeling depressed bout the window only time will tell if we are stronger but im thinking we are headed for mid table obscurity a win today will cheer me up.
    hwtl

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  • ed88

    Sep 2, 2012 at 12:04 PM

    Comment #24

    Hi fellow fans, we need to support the team thick and thin. The lack of strikers is not a concern as we are likely to play 433, with one striker. Obertan and Haris, Campbell can be our supersub.

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  • Sav

    Sep 2, 2012 at 12:10 PM

    Comment #25

    Buying players like Marveaux is the best bit of business. Looking at his history you are pretty much guaranteed that every year, even without Mashley spending another bean, Pards will be able to trot out the old ‘Its like signing another player’ chestnut. You can usually get 3 or 4 years of that before the guy can;t even finish pre-season without ending up in ICU.

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  • OneAlanShearer

    Sep 2, 2012 at 12:10 PM

    Comment #26

    Ober, marveaux, ferguson and s Taylor did not play a lot or were out injured. We have been crying out for players to understudy tiote and cabaye, bigi and Anita will do that. Our weak spots are covered by youth that will have opportunities to play. But we may suffer whilst they gain that experience.
    Young players may choose us over clubs Paying more as a result. I think the league cuP will see us use the youth in majority. Fergie, abeid, Amal, bigi, sammy, et al. That will be a huge step forward in their experience. A huge season for the youths. I have high hopes for sammy and adam most of all.

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  • OneAlanShearer

    Sep 2, 2012 at 12:17 PM

    Comment #27

    Sav – I agree the one place we are lighter is up front. But by one player not 2. What’s the point in having emerging youth if we don’t use it. Shola is always injured what’s new? He’ll still slay the unwashed.

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  • OneAlanShearer

    Sep 2, 2012 at 12:20 PM

    Comment #28

    Actually in obers case I’d say he’s been more inconsistent than not played. If he plays like he did last Thursday every game then he looks a good option to have used wisely.

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  • Toon73

    Sep 2, 2012 at 12:38 PM

    Comment #29

    And so the BS begins…

    It’s obvious to all the squad needed to be strengthened going into the Europa League.

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  • jimmymagpie

    Sep 2, 2012 at 12:40 PM

    Comment #30

    Pardew talks utter sh-te! If the squad is stronger, why is he shit-ing himself in case Senegal win the qualifier? Why did he prattle on about the defence being top priority all summern and it wasn’t strengthened? Why did he chase Debuchy all summer? They swapped one 1st team player for another, Anita for Guthrie. They brought in young midfielders, when the crying need was for a full back and striker. How the f-ck is that stronger? He’s so far up the heirarchy’s ar-e, it’s a wonder he doesn’t choke. Can’t be bothered with the cr-p on here today, off for a pint on the way to the match.

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  • Brutooon

    Sep 2, 2012 at 12:52 PM

    Comment #31

    stronger to play at the premierleague ONLY

    we got two cups and europe to play.

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  • James RS

    Sep 3, 2012 at 12:02 AM

    Comment #32

    Stronger you gotta be joking..we got Anita to replace Guthrie at a cost of 8 million both similar players and at what cost and Bigirama, Good and Amalfitano to replace Best, Lovenkrands Kadar and Smith and we also lost a few good youngsters I see that as standing still, And nobody to replace Cisse and Ba in january ..only Ameobi to come in with Best and |Lovenkrands gone.
    very doubtful if we finish even in the top 8 now. Got lucky with the transfers last time..this time we messed up still whod wanna do business with Lambias! other clubs seem to get who theyre after

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