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Pardew Angry At Behind The Scenes Activity During Summer

1:25 am, Monday, September 3rd, 2012 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 55 Comments

It seems there has been some stuff going on behind the scenes during the transfer window that Alan Pardew knew about, which has been upsetting him, and upsetting some of his top players, and it could even be that is why some Newcastle players have not been at the top of their form at the start of the season – maybe.

Alan Pardew – on sidelines yesterday

Of course it’s always hard to know exactly what is affecting our players, maybe they got out of the wrong side of the bed one day,  but certainly so far this season players like Demba Ba, Papiss Cisse and Yohan Cabaye have been nowhere near their form of last season, and we can only hope things will  improve, and quickly too.

Alan Pardew after the game yesterday probably revealed more than he wanted to about what goes on in the football world these days, when he had this to say:

“I have some sympathy for players because if people or agents – and not necessarily their own agent, a different agent – call them and offer them double their money, it’s going to affect you.”

“It’s not just us, it’s other clubs. There are some terrible people and agents in and around the game who do things like that, ring a player up and promise him the earth, say “I can do the deal”, and they are not even their agent. It goes on.’”

Football is big business and agents are not helping things by always trying to move players between clubs, so they can get paid, and it seems that quite a lot of that was going on over the summer, and with some of the Newcastle players too.

Perhaps  some strict rules need to be applied to football agents, because they seem to be a law unto themselves at the moment.

And yesterday UEFA President Michel Platini came out and warned 17 clubs they had to balance their books or else risk being barred from participating in Europe – and you can be sure that four of those clubs were Manchester City, QPR, PSG and Chelsea – who are spending money they just don’t have – and as if it’s going out of style.

Michel is trying to protect some clubs from themselves, before they go belly up and bankrupt, and the Glasgow Rangers debacle this summer surely should have some of these clubs thinking twice before they go into huge debt?

Its all part of the same problem when big money is involved, which it certainly is these days in football.

But at least we didn’t lose any of  our top players in the summer, that’s very positive, but it seems that some annoying things were going on behind the scenes that upset some Newcastle players – and it seems manager Alan Pardew too.

Newcastle have made a mediocre start to the season, but the lads looked good in the second half yesterday, and we just need to start seeing some of the good form we saw last season, and then we should be just fine – that’s right isn’t it? :D

But it’s only 3 games gone in the season,  so plenty of time to to still do well – very well.

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55 responses so far ↓

  • 1 ochytoon // Sep 3, 2012 at 1:33 AM

    Well, their not spending money they don’t have are they? Certainly not in the cases of City, Chelsea and PSG.

  • 2 cndrbrown // Sep 3, 2012 at 1:33 AM

    Tragic really! It seems the agents are slowly gaining more power and stirring stuff up behind the scenes.

  • 3 gonz // Sep 3, 2012 at 1:42 AM

    All I want to say is…..Hatem Ben Arfa. I think I love you!

    Amazing player, lovely left foot, but GOD DAMN BOY’s got a right foot too!!

  • 4 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 3, 2012 at 2:12 AM

    What’s the greater obligation on this blog, to err on the side of positivism for the sake of morale and a more upbeat tone or to be analytical, critical and speak your mind.

  • 5 gonz // Sep 3, 2012 at 2:14 AM

    PMA is the way to go!

  • 6 Sav // Sep 3, 2012 at 3:05 AM

    We need Tiote back playing in midfield, demanding and driving the team on. Cheick is key.
    But Bigi did well today and so did Anita at fullback.

  • 7 gonz // Sep 3, 2012 at 3:07 AM

    Yes, Simpsons injury could be a blessing in disguise with Anita playing full back.

  • 8 cockneymagpie90 // Sep 3, 2012 at 3:07 AM

    The reason we did badly again in the first half yesterday is simply because of tactics. Dont get me wrong, I have alot of respect for pardew for what he has achieved for this club and his man management is brilliant but using the 442 unbalanced formation is hurting us atm.

    Alan likes to use 2 strikers in the starting line up in Ba and Cisse. Now, I know that doesnt sound bad but if u like to play keep ball style of football, it isnt going to help the team. The only way it might work is if we revert back to the hoofball type of football we used to play and get the ball up in the air regulary(westham style). It means there are less ball retention players on the pitch and also means less chances for the two strikers to get a goal, very frustrating in my eyes.

    Personally i think we should be rotating them fairly and bring on the other if in need for a goal. I just think this would bring more chances to either one of the prolific strikers aswell ad keeping them fresh and also have talent in the cups and european comp.

    For me this problem at the moment is a no brainer but i am getting increasingly worried that Pardew wont see it and stick to his two striker 442 formation. They are two similar and both want to be infront of goal scoring. As much as he likes to keep Ba on the pitch and play him deeper hes not going to be as good as a CENTRE FORWARD or a pacey winger with bags of technical ability e.g. BenArfa, Marv, Ober, Amalfitano. I like Ba, BUT ONLY IN A STRIKERS POSITION and the same goes for Cisse.

    If we played a 451 and got another midfielder in there are you telling me we wouldnt get more chances for the target man? He genuinely thinks the more strikers the more goals but it doesnt work like that!

    I hope he realises sooner rather than later as i think it could cost us top 6 this season. Heres my formation/line up anyway. Oh snd i know its late but haf to get this dhit off my chest.

    HWTL!!!!!

    4231

    KRUL
    SANTON-COLLO-TAYLOR-ANITA
    GUTI-TIOTE/BIGI
    BENARFA-CABAYE-MARVO
    CISSE/BA

    and if we need goals by all means have both strikers on but dont bloody start them together!!!!! That is all.

  • 9 gonz // Sep 3, 2012 at 3:38 AM

    I totally agree with you about the tactics cockneymagpie. I know Ba had complained about not being used in the centre last season and with Cisse it just doesn’t work with them in 442
    He has to be aware of this and I think he’s gonna stick with it (maybe he promised Ba in the summer that we’d play him in the centre) until we start performing bad (right now) and then is forced to have to revert back to where we will score bags of goals and when we played some of our best football last season 433.

    I also think he needs to start thinking about starting Marveaux on the left. I think the best formation and team we should have for the Everton match is 433 of course and start (assuming all are fit of course)
    ___________________Krul______________________
    Anita________Saylor___________Colo______Santon_
    ________Cabaye_____Tiote_______Jonas__________
    Ben Arfa___________ Cisse______________Marveaux

    Subs:Harper, Bigi, Williamson, Ameobi, Ba, Obertan, Simpson

  • 10 gaz 44 // Sep 3, 2012 at 4:16 AM

    ba has looked a lot better than cisse in my opinion .. agree on the 4-3-3 but would have yo be ba as the man up top for me

  • 11 ganiyu // Sep 3, 2012 at 4:21 AM

    No tiote no 442. Its obvious that anita can’t fill in those boots.good work by bigi and benarfa they deserve a little praise.Either ba or cisse has to sit on the bench.

  • 12 ilovetoon8788 // Sep 3, 2012 at 4:40 AM

    We all know Jonas won’t be dropped. So we know marveaux won’t start. Baffling.

  • 13 89Norcal // Sep 3, 2012 at 5:08 AM

    Anita may be a defensive mid, but his talents lie in long passing and moving forward, from what I’ve seen at Ajax and a few of the games for Newcastle. He should be involved more in the attack.

  • 14 Rossy G // Sep 3, 2012 at 5:39 AM

    Pardew moaning on about unsettling our players…..end of the day mate nothing unsettles players more than lack of ambition of no signings! Stop making excuses and praising your employer and speak the truth….puppet!

    P.s. 4-4-2 has never worked stop worrying about losing Ba or Cisse if you drop them and drop one …. Competition = improvement 90% of the time!

    Signed Realist not Pessimist

  • 15 ilovetoon8788 // Sep 3, 2012 at 5:52 AM

    If we stick to the same tactic and cabaye being this awful form, I worry against everton. No moment of magic no goals. If not for arfa attacking brilliance we would be completely steam rolled in our recent games.

  • 16 Les Grossman // Sep 3, 2012 at 6:30 AM

    Rossy G
    Good point well put!

  • 17 ppb // Sep 3, 2012 at 6:40 AM

    4-4-2 has never worked?
    got us an 11 game unbeaten run and is what we played most of last season when we ended up in fifth. but your right it has never worked……

  • 18 Hatem's better than Messi // Sep 3, 2012 at 6:43 AM

    C’mon Pardew, what about Lille & Debuchy.

    Maiga and Sochaux … we’ve unsettled a few players at other clubs too.

  • 19 jesperfuglsang // Sep 3, 2012 at 6:45 AM

    Good morning everyone :-) hope you have had a nice weekend; banned myself from the blog since thursday, doctor’s order you know ;-) lol

    So how was the game yesterday?

    Are we still down and out playing 4-4-2?

  • 20 ppb // Sep 3, 2012 at 6:50 AM

    @jesp lemon the game was a sorry affair the only positives being Ben arfa, bigi and anita being good at full back.

  • 21 jesperfuglsang // Sep 3, 2012 at 6:54 AM

    ppB…so what’s your take on the 4-4-2 debate? do we look lively and effective?

    Seems 4-4-2 is never that good if you want to keep possesion :-)

    What about the Ba/Cisse constellation? Should we change to a lone striker formation or a three man strikeforce?

  • 22 ppb // Sep 3, 2012 at 6:59 AM

    despite my comment earlier i think 4-4-2 is not working right now and we would be best with either cisse or ba as lone striker or ba on the left Ben arfa on the right

  • 23 phizzyJ // Sep 3, 2012 at 7:27 AM

    Does seem a bit slow atm, but you cant drop ba or cisse imo, there must be a way of having them both playin. Personally, i think that cisse is a quicker player and better on the ball than ba, and reckon bennycan play left or right judging on what ive seen so id go with 4-3-3
    Krul
    Simpson-colo-saylor-santon. /anita instead of one of simpson and play him left or right as both would be quite versatile

    Cabaye tiote marvo

    Benny BA. Cisse

    This would work and put the fear into your oponnents, when you have tiote holdin midfield, 2 fast full backs, cabaye striking from distance and creating, marvo creating, benny free role, ba target man, cisse quick number 9 and can be forward when needed, marvo superb delivery. But we all can have an opinion….hence the beauty of football.

  • 24 Transfer Sage // Sep 3, 2012 at 7:28 AM

    Rossy

    So you want pardew to come out and say we are horribly under prepared and don’t have enough good players cause the owner is too tight?

    That will only annoy current players and probably see him sacked.

    Sometimes you need to bite your Tongue and do your job.

    Pardew is trying to do the best wih what he has.

  • 25 phizzyJ // Sep 3, 2012 at 7:28 AM

    So anita and santon at full back is what i meant . Surely anita would prefer this role, it would be more attacking for him.

  • 26 geordie157 // Sep 3, 2012 at 7:43 AM

    On current form Jonas should not be starting, Obertan and Marveaux are both offering more to the team

  • 27 jesperfuglsang // Sep 3, 2012 at 7:44 AM

    ppB…sorry had to run for half an hour :)

    I didn’t watch the game last night, but I agree about the current situation, though I don’t really think we look any different playing 4-4-2 this season compared to last season; the difference is just the result :)

    I just hope Pardew will bite the bullet on this one sooner rather than later and switch to 4-3-3. I accept he likes 4-4-2 just as much as I accept he likes Obertan (he bought him), but sometimes it is just wiser to accept defeat and move on :)

    It is a part of the learning process and the growth of every human being to change their point of view.

    But I think Pardew feels the pressure and frustration and when Tiote is back I think he’ll switch formation and hopefully lineup ;) here’s to hoping lol

  • 28 Spuggy // Sep 3, 2012 at 7:55 AM

    I agree agents and money are killing the game.

    On HBA, I think that is the first time he’s touched it with his right foot haha!

  • 29 phoonck // Sep 3, 2012 at 8:04 AM

    sorry for repost

    yes i agree with those who thought that Hatem Ben Arfa had an average game.. but its those moments of brilliance that win you games! he’s a match-winner!

    im not a hardcore Hatem Ben Arfa fan.. i love everyone single of our players including Danny Simpson, Mike Williamson and Shola Ameobi(unlike some here who keep on criticizing them, dont forget, we got to where we were last season with these players and they did their part, so give them credits where its due). think Robin van Persie, think Didier Drogba, think Nicolas Anelka, think Sergio Kun Aguero, think Carlos Tevez, think Luis Nani, think Wayne Rooney, think Teddy Sheringham, or even think Alan Shearer. they are your match-winners! they sometimes went missing in the odd games, throw tantrums, sulk in games, tried too much or did nothing worthwhile, then suddenly pops up to nick a goal or two, in just moments of brilliance! would u rather have these in your line-ups or warming the bench?

    yes i do agree sometimes its frustrating that Hatem Ben Arfa tried to do a little too much and lose the ball, but didn’t the world’s best players like Ronaldinho, Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo too? its because their teammates know these players have the qualities and will win you games and needs more chances, and keep giving them the balls and have them try countless times! they are the ones who can split open a defence with their vision and skills!

    these flair players with bags of skills needs chances to build on the momentum and confidence. he played it simple at times too didn’t he? with Yohan Cabaye, Jonas Gutierrez, Danny Simpson, Vurnon Anita and Gabriel Obertan.

    have you guys ever wonder why Hatem Ben Arfa was ineffective for large part of the games? could it have been due to the formation(as a right winger in a 4-4-2) we’re playing in? but he seems to always bring something extra to the game when he’s being deployed as a right forward in a 4-3-3 or behind the strikers in a 4-3-1-2.. formation matters alot.. Yohan Cabaye looks average at best as a centre midfielder in a 4-4-2 but excels, very influential and can dictate the tempo of play as an attacking midfielder in a 4-3-3..

    just my 2cents worth
    keep the faith
    HWTL

  • 30 eaststandgeordie1982 // Sep 3, 2012 at 8:05 AM

    By im rough this morning, so 4-4-2 is not working at all looked more attacking in the second half, anita made a massive difference going to rb so relaxed on the ball, passes it well knows when to go forward and he can defend simmo will find it hard to get back in now. Marv and ober changed the game should of came on after HBA’s goal we would of got a couple more imo. Cabaye has seemed lost in the first 3 games. Bigi done well in his first epl game hes going to be a big player for us, would like to see amal get some game time.

  • 31 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 3, 2012 at 8:07 AM

    Pardew will tinker with the side, he has to because it is under performing. The Ba Cisse conundrum is an interesting one. Am I right in thinking that they rarely play together at international level despite both being among their better players = not unlike Gerrard/Lampard except Pards knows Ba can do a job out wide. Also, as much as I like the idea of 433 especially at home, didn’t we come undone playing 433 last season and isn’t Pardew at heart a 442 man.

  • 32 eaststandgeordie1982 // Sep 3, 2012 at 8:07 AM

    By im rough this morning, so 4-4-2 is not working at all looked more attacking in the second half, anita made a massive difference going to rb so relaxed on the ball, passes it well knows when to go forward and he can defend simmo will find it hard to get back in now. Marv and ober changed the game should of came on after HBA’s goal we would of got a couple more imo. Cabaye has seemed lost in the first 3 games. Bigi done well in his first epl game hes going to be a big player for us, would like to see amal get some game time. I also thought santon was solid having 2 full backs that can go forward makes a huge difference.

  • 33 Markaccus // Sep 3, 2012 at 8:31 AM

    Nufc dissapointing yesterday. Positives, anita seemed more settled and confident, his passes were acurate, and did well when moved to rb. The fightback attitude showed it was still there. Negatives, our forwards are still not firing yet. Ben arfa, asside from his brilliant goal, his corners were poor yesterday, ditto his free kicks, and he gave the ball away a few times. Poor game for the lad. Hang on! Anita did well, and ben arfa was poor? Where is mr ben-arfa11? He needs to explain why his fave player didn’t score a hat trick to make up for the mistakes!

  • 34 TorqToon // Sep 3, 2012 at 8:43 AM

    Mark – we are blocking out Ben Arfa 11 as it became clear he is nothing more than a Makem with an attitude problem and too much free time!! He was blanked last night – got bored and ran off home to bed! :-)

  • 35 Markaccus // Sep 3, 2012 at 8:46 AM

    Really torqutoon??? That’s excellent. Well done everyone :D . He had to be a troll, really, no one can actually be that retarded!

  • 36 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 3, 2012 at 8:52 AM

    Good morning,

    Missed the game yesterday (I blame all of you as I just had to go out Saturday night due to the constant voicing of what a state Newcastle are in and subsequently lost a day – I hope you’re pleased with yourselves :) ). From the look of peoples comments, we didn’t give a great showing and were lucky to get a point.

    So, 3 games in and not one convincing game, though it seems our second half performances seem to get better. Sounds a lot like last season. Remember, we were lucky last season, hence why we managed 5th? ;)

    The football and control can obviously be improved as we gain fitness, understanding or whatever the actual issues are. If players heads have been turned, it is down the Pardew and co to get them back on track, which I am confident he will do. In the meantime if we had been offered 4 points and European qualification from our opening 5 fixtures (inc games against Spurs and Chelsea) most if not all fans would have taken it happily. If we were sat in the bottom 3 with so signs of positivity I would be concerned, but we’re not. 2 week break, time to work on a thing or two and get ready for Everton, which is never as easy game…for any team.

  • 37 HullMag6 // Sep 3, 2012 at 8:55 AM

    Part of the Cisse/Ba problem is lack of competition, cue window frustration.

    Anyone think if it can be financed a short term punt on either or both Anelka and Drogba worth doing?

    433 works, traditional 442 doesn’t with our boys.

  • 38 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 3, 2012 at 8:56 AM

    Just reading about Internationals and hadn’t realised the Senegal vs Ivory Coast play offs are soon. Have the squads been announced, is Tiote joining up with the squad?

  • 39 Markaccus // Sep 3, 2012 at 8:57 AM

    Morning, ibiza. Yes, you appraisal of the game is probably about right, although I’d say our second half earned us a deserved point rather than us being lucky. Most of our poor play was attacking rather than defencive. We certainly didn’t deserve to win. Our players just need to kick up a gear or two, we have the ability, just seems like a lack of confidence.

  • 40 Vask // Sep 3, 2012 at 8:59 AM

    Well we have a two week break now so some a good amount of time to work on our fitness and try and get sharper for Everton. We have Tiote, Perchy and the Ameobis to return for that game so we will have a stronger bench. With Tiote back in the middle it should break up the play a bit. I’d love to see a different formation such as 4-5-1 especially being away from home. Pack out the midfield and that, retain the ball and strike down the wings, perhaps move Hatem out to the left and Gabby down the right with Cabaye in a CAM role. With more pace and a firmer defensive midfield I think we could tear Everton a new one. Especially if Anita and Santon are our full-backs. Of course, I’m no Premier League manager….

  • 41 Markaccus // Sep 3, 2012 at 8:59 AM

    See the makems are also interested in Owen. Lmao. Just lmao. There are not enough words in the english language to describe how much I am lmao. Onece again, to clarify, lmao

  • 42 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 3, 2012 at 9:04 AM

    Hi Mark,

    I remember it being similar at the beginning of last season, but we ground out results. Not pretty, but when you have a team lacking form etc, it’s what you need to do.

    As for the 4-4-2 vs 4-3-3 (v) discussion, we seemed to mix it round last season, although 4-4-2 was used in a lot more games. I imagine Pardew has been trying out different ideas and obviously is seeing something in training or in the opposition to make him chose 4-4-2 so far.

    On Marv vs Guti….Last season HBA was eased in slowly, maybe Pardew is doing the same thing here. However, I really think you’ll notice the difference of the team without Spidey in there. For me, he is no longer a winger and is far suited to a CM role.

    Any news on Simpson’s injury? Was it really bad? Find it odd reading the Anita went RB when we had Santon at LB, who is a preferred RB supposedly and Anita has filled in for Ajax at LB. Any thoughts or idea’s on this one?

  • 43 JDdubai // Sep 3, 2012 at 9:06 AM

    So everyone agrees our formation is wrong, someone please tell Pardew as he is blind to it.

    Cisse and Ba are not a partnership in a 4-4-2, someone please tell Pardew as he is blind to it.

    Cabaye is wasted in 4-4-2, does the job any Cattermole or whoever could do, someone please tell Pardew as he is blind to it.

    The formation is the reason we have started poorly, not players being unsettled, not even the lack of signings. That has gone now til January, formation and tactics need to improve quickly or we will be too far behind before they realise.

    Also you cant complain over agents unsettling players and then do as we have done with Maiga, Debuchy, HBA etc. And we played it out in public to try to bully the selling club.

  • 44 HullMag6 // Sep 3, 2012 at 9:07 AM

    I think the suits have frustrated AP over signings and its filtered down through the team.

    Last season was all about APs motivational skills, if he isnt 100% on it neither is the team.

    His body language said a lot, even when his mouth said the opposite to stay in the boss’s good books.

  • 45 ROSHAN MAGPIE // Sep 3, 2012 at 9:11 AM

    lads which Ben arfa goal is better his goal against everton or his goal against aston villa

  • 46 martoon // Sep 3, 2012 at 9:14 AM

    Hi Mark & Ibiza, I was actually at the match and you don’t appreciate on TV how much work Jonas gets through – he is everywhere, for all those saying bench him. We were poor first half but improved second half but Villa were always dangerous on the break. To be honest they deserved a draw. Best moment of the match (apart from Bennys goal) was ex-mackem Bent getting whacked in the face by the ball :-)

  • 47 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 3, 2012 at 9:19 AM

    Martoon….Cheers for that. I find people dismiss Jonas far too quickly.

    Bent getting whacked in the face….going to have to take to youtube :) Who hit the ball at him?

  • 48 Rotonda heights // Sep 3, 2012 at 9:23 AM

    I had a very predictable feeling about yesterday even before we kicked off, knowing Pardew would go for 442 with both Cisse and Ba and Cabaye withdrawn.

    It’s funny how so many of us can suggest why things aren’t working at the moment, but the one person who can do something about it steadfastly refuses to.

    1) A blind man can tell you Cabaye works outstandingly well in a 433, but sucks in a 442 where the game is more stretched resulting in longer balls being played. It’s not his game.

    2) Ba and Cisse (like Lampard and Gerrard for England) just do not and never have worked well together in a 442.
    Ba can do a job on the left on a front 3 but is not as naturally suited to that position as Marveaux.

    It’s criminal to have these players that Carr has assembled and then play them in the straitjacket of 442 just to suit Ba or Pards’ stubborness to go to a plan B which works so much better. Ba is a great player but you play him or Cisse, not both.

    The team we ended up with with 5 mins to go was looking much better, but why does it always take so long to realise something is not working. Positively we found out Anita is a way more progressive, albeit makeshift full back than Simpson and we have a star in Bigi.

    Krul

    Anita Colo Saylor Santon

    Tiote Bigi

    Cabaye

    Benny Ba / Cisse Marveaux

  • 49 Markaccus // Sep 3, 2012 at 9:23 AM

    Morning martoon, yes I agree about jonas. He still probably my favorite nufc player. Underated by a lot of fans.

  • 50 martoon // Sep 3, 2012 at 9:26 AM

    Ibiza @47 – I think it was HBA who hit him

  • 51 Rotonda heights // Sep 3, 2012 at 9:27 AM

    ibiza

    I think Benny caught Bent

    Roshan

    Yesterdays goal be cause it was on his ”wrong foot”

  • 52 Rotonda heights // Sep 3, 2012 at 9:31 AM

    JD dubai

    Scary wavelength !!!!

  • 53 Ian Toon // Sep 3, 2012 at 9:40 AM

    Ibiza- good morning I guess it’s safe to come out know. I have to say I don ‘t encounter the sort of moronic fans at games that encamp on here
    for long periods. Anyway my merit marks and brief comment :
    Krul. 7
    Simpson 5
    Colo 7
    Taylor 6 ( At fault for goal poor position and mistimed jump)
    Santon 7
    Ben Arfa 6 ( great goal but little else of note,lost possession a lot)
    Cabaye 5 ( poorest I’ve seen – prefers passing game)
    Anita. 7 ( should be regular)
    Jonas 6
    Ba 6
    Cisse 5
    Bigi did well and will feature more going forward. As a team a very disjointed performance . Given the constant changes to the formation throughout it’s hard to say that we played 4-4-2 other than at the start.
    Trying to play 4-2-3-1with Simpson as an non attacker is difficult!
    But Anita was everything that Simpson isn’t. Our fans bellyaching
    are pathetic because we’ve only paid 3 games and the cohesion wasn’t there. To suggest dropping Cabaye and Cisse is madness we need to play a pass and move game which at times Villa did better than us.
    All that is required is to improve dead ball kicking and a tweak of formation. Santon, Anita, Cabaye, Tiote, Ben Arfa and Cisse are best
    accommodated in a pass and move game – less long ball particularly when playing sides like Villa . I favour Ben Arfa playing behind Cisse
    in a fluid roll . His goal yesterday was similar to the area he scored against Everton but with his other foot. Certainly he will put doubt in the minds of defenders now as he can’t be ushered onto his so called wrong side. I have to say some of the posters over the last few days
    show a total lack of understanding of football and there not all our younger fans. Quality players Cabaye and Cisse can have a spell of poor games- for whatever reason – but their class.

  • 54 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 3, 2012 at 9:50 AM

    Thanks guys.

    Ian….I really have a weekend off the site. Such drama queens some people on here (not all people that were disappointed – unwind your knickers ;) ).

    It’s too early to say what’s actually wrong with the players, I think it just suits some peoples argument to say that they’re clearly not happy with our summer business. They should no better than anyone what they’re capable of and if they honestly don’t believe in the squad then we may have some issues. I have faith we’ll pick up form again. Same things happened last season, all teams and players go through patches, we are now and still getting a reasonable amount of points.

  • 55 Toonarmy123 // Sep 3, 2012 at 4:03 PM

    Thought that we were poor yesterday in the first half and should definetly change to 4-3-3 in the future because in a 4-4-2 Cabaye is wasted as he has to constanly defend and in a 4-3-3 does not have to worry about that and can just concentrate on picking those supberb passes. People say that in a 4-3-3 that Ba is wasted but in my opinion Cabaye is a more important player for us.




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