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Top Players Jaded – New Challenge For Newcastle Manager

10:01 am, Monday, September 3rd, 2012 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 48 Comments

It’s a real pity that Yohan Cabaye’s free kick, with just about 30 seconds to go in the game yesterday, didn’t go in to give Newcastle the win, because things would be a  lot different today, but goalkeeper Guzon made a good save and it means Newcastle have made only an average start to the season, with a very tough game at Everton in two weeks time, next on the agenda.

Alan Pardew being interviewed after the game last night

Demba Ba, Papiss Cisse, Yohan Cabaye and others haven’t looked at their best in the first three league games of the season, and all three of them will now be off to play two games for their countries during the two week International break.

Alan Pardew is saying that players these days play too much football, which is one possible cause of the poor form shown so far this season, and this is what Alan Pardew told the local press today:

“Some of our players are not bang in form but when you’re playing a bit more than 11 months a year, some players, it’s too much football really.” “We’re going to have to rest them here and there and get them back to form.”

We wouldn’t be at all surprised if Alan Pardew changes things around for the game at Everton, and we’d be surprised if both Papiss Cisse and Demba Ba start that game.

The Newcastle manager may even have to revert to a 4-3-3 formation, which worked well earlier this year, with Demba Ba on the left wing, although he didn’t particularly like playing there.

Nothing goes well all the time in life or in football, as we all know only too well, but it’s a manager’s job to pinpoint what the problems are in the team and solve them – that’s why they get the big bucks – and that’s what Alan Pardew’s job is right now at Newcastle.

It’s been a bit of a disappointing start to the season, but we shouldn’t overdo it either – our position is nothing that a couple of wins cannot quickly put right.

Maybe we can even win at Everton - that would help things big time!

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Tags: Demba Ba · Newcastle News · Papiss Cisse · Yohan Cabaye



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48 responses so far ↓

  • 1 davybtoon // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:05 AM

    Anita looked liked the rb we have all been saying we need, he’s quick great goin forward n he can defend

  • 2 Shane // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:07 AM

    Stick Ba back out on the left it’s that simple. If it ain’t broke don’t try to fix it and that 433 definitely was not broken.

  • 3 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:08 AM

    Just realised we have nothing constructive to discuss for the next 2 weeks. Shall we ban the following topics for some peace?

    – 4-3-3 vs 4-4-2
    – Clubs Ambition
    – Ashley & Llambias
    – Accounts
    – Ba Vs. Cisse

    Hmmm….So then, what’s left to discuss? Of our stripes, which do you prefer the black or the white? ;)

  • 4 WWYCD // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:10 AM

    So Anita is our new RB, we are utter pony, Jonas can’t start for us anymore, Ba is ruining our team, HBA can not be criticized, our players all want to leave because of agents, Pards can’t manage for toffee, Cabs has lost it and Cashley is the Devil reborn once more….I miss anything?

  • 5 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:11 AM

    Yo…..That pretty much covers it. Shall we all take the day off now??

  • 6 jayphoto // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:13 AM

    You forgot Williamson….. Surely hes to blame for something…..

  • 7 WWYCD // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:13 AM

    Ibiza
    Might be a plan lad I doubt there will be much debate to be had on here until our next game

  • 8 davybtoon // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:13 AM

    If we had drawn with spurs n beat villa would ppl really b sayin that’s a bad start to season, Chelsea we didn’t deserve anything

  • 9 TorqToon // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:14 AM

    Nice to have you back Jesper – your sound and informative posts have been missed.

    It’s been a rough few days on the blog as I’m sure you are aware of, transfer window and yesterday’s game pushing many over the edge. Screaming for Ba to get injured, simmo to be BADLY injured and Cabaye to be sold!

    It’s been madness mate but hoping all has calmed now and cooler heads have prevailed.

  • 10 Shane // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:14 AM

    Thank the Lord for our mercurial winger, Hatem Ben Arfa.

  • 11 davybtoon // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:15 AM

    And how good was santon yesterday he was the best player on the pitch

  • 12 jayphoto // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:17 AM

    For Everton I think we’ll see a fitter Cabaye! He virtually had no preseason remember! Would love to see 4-3-3, if simmo is out play Santon right bk, Anita left back. Would LOVE to see Tiote and Bigi play together with cabaye just in front! Then would play Marveaux and Ben arfa either side of Ba who’s looked sharper than cisse!

  • 13 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:17 AM

    Yo…I suppose that doesn’t normally stop us :)

    Davy….Indeed. Once again, it can be seen as a “missed opportunity”, but most will see it as us going backwards in to a World we can never return from.

    Jay…..Wasn’t Williamson pitch forked to death Friday night?

  • 14 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:17 AM

    WWYCD
    Yeah you missed the fact that despite cisse not looking intrested we should drop ba and play cisse up top on his own!

  • 15 FatmanJoe // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:19 AM

    It was awful last night – couldn’t believe people wanting our own players to be injured! I thought Simpson was great yesterday until he got injured. People give him such a hard time unnecessarily I think.

    We definately need a big win to keep the numpties away. I definitely think they only come on here when there’s something to complain about.

    And williamson was awful yesterday btw. I saw him shift in his seat right before the goal and the squeak made Taylor and colo both turn away from Clark when they should have marked him and then he scored. Williamson out!

  • 16 WWYCD // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:19 AM

    Oh balls aye damnit Mike Williamson! I heard he kicked a baby in the face because it sneezed.

    Commentators were begging for him to come on when Simmo went off then decided that Bigi was going to move to RB haha clearly had no idea where the lad played

  • 17 Shane // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:21 AM

    Definitely feel Shola Ameobi should start. There, I said it.

  • 18 jayphoto // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:21 AM

    If bigi and tiote played in the same team, and accidentally ran into each other would the universe end?

  • 19 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:23 AM

    Jay….I think it would start a new universe. Not sure what would happen to our current one though. I’m sure there are some insightful folk on here know, ask the sensible people that have us down as lucky to get top 10, they know there stuff

  • 20 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:23 AM

    *their

    Slap for Ibizatoon

  • 21 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:26 AM

    Fatman joe
    Obviously willo should never of Been allowed near the pitch he moved slightly and put him off every corner personally i think he should be lynched

  • 22 davybtoon // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:26 AM

    I’ve been crying out for santon at right back for a while but u can’t do it, he was so good at lb yesterday n Anita looked great on the right I don’t know it just looked right those 2 in those positions they should stay there

  • 23 jesperfuglsang // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:28 AM

    Hi Torq my good friend :)

    …it is always sad when ppl start doing that; isn’t it strange how some only keep perspektive or show support when we are on top?

    Cisse is in a slumb right now and we need to get him on fire, but my concern is Cabaye who clearly is down and out and 4-4-2 is clearly not working wonders for him :)

  • 24 WWYCD // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:28 AM

    Ibiza
    Haha very true

    Toonarmydownsouth
    Yeah I really don’t understand that line of thought Ba has looked very good so far imo and Cisse looks like he didn’t get a pre season and is returning from illness. If I were to drop one of them it’d be Cisse no question atm

  • 25 WWYCD // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:32 AM

    Davy
    Anita signed under the understanding he would play CM and not FB

  • 26 faustino // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:33 AM

    I think we should all concentrate on Friday night and willing Ivory Coast into walloping Senegal 8-0.

  • 27 davybtoon // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:35 AM

    Wwycd I know he did but he looked great at rb so why not leave him there i kow he will b great cm but that’s best he’s played yesterday at rb

    Plus biggie was brilliant cant believe the lad is only 18

  • 28 Les Grossman // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:35 AM

    Davybtoon
    Anita stipulated and has said in numerous interviews that he wanted to talk to pardew to see where he would be played as he does NOT want to play at full back!

  • 29 Ollieh51 // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:36 AM

    Is that a cheeky new banner from Ed too?!

  • 30 Les Grossman // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:36 AM

    Also
    I think Perch will be played RB

  • 31 jayphoto // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:38 AM

    Gonna be honest I hope Senegal go thru as its probably the only thing that will get the board to sign the striker we need! Also, we always look stronger with tiote!

  • 32 Munster Mag // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:39 AM

    I think the inability of Ba and Cisse to work well together is a concern in terms of Pardew’s judgement. He wade an interesting comment there that people havent picked up on – “when we get three or four more like him” ……some chance Pards mate. Your boss wouldnt even get you a full back or centre half, despite all the MA fans telling those of us who worried that we had “all summer” to get players in , no patience etc. Its time I moved on from my frustrations with Ashely’s lack of ambition, but i certainly hope some of the happy clappies have learned something in the last few weeks.

  • 33 TorqToon // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:39 AM

    Jesper – Completely agree. Some have a very short memory and have clearly forgotten the relegation season and suddenly believe we should be world beaters.

    I was desperate for you and Ibiza to come online Saturday night and kick a few supposed fans into touch! :-)

  • 34 Les Grossman // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:41 AM

    I think Pardew must have dreamt MA had splashed some dosh on Carroll!
    And reverted to the long ball game yesterday.
    Everytime we got the ball in Villas half iot was like a hot potato, and humped into their box!
    Guzan had a field day just pick the ball out the air!

    Or maybe he got the team to do it deliberatley, to prove a point ;-)

  • 35 WWYCD // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:43 AM

    Davy
    Maybe so but he doesn’t want to play there which will cause a lot of issues. We have Simmo, Perch, Raylor and Tav who can play there when fit Anita will hit the roof if he is left to play there is my bet

  • 36 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:46 AM

    Munster….Great example of opinions :) I read that not as when we sign 3 or 4 more like him, but when the rest of our players that we have pick up form.

    ’In training, he is our best player and on the pitch, he is our best player at the minute.”

    “When we get three or four like that, we are a really, really good side. Unfortunately, we haven’t at the moment, we have got one or two just below that.”

    Notice he says “we are a really, really good side”. Wouldn’t make sense if he was talking about players he wants to get in.

    Torq….After Friday, it seemed the best approach would be to let them have their time and tire themselves out. Bless them, all of that anger has been building up for about a year and it’s really the first chance they’ve had.

  • 37 thai-mag // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:48 AM

    I think toon could go like stoke last season every time they played a game in europe they were crap the next game, stoke didn’t have a big enough squad and we dont either

  • 38 cndrbrown // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:49 AM

    Anyone concerned that hba could be bought? £40 mil

  • 39 Rotonda heights // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:50 AM

    Davybtoon

    Sorry ed’s going so fast, but just to say I agreed totally on the previous thread.

    krul

    Anita / santon Colo Saylo Santon / Anita

    Tiote Bigi

    Cabaye

    Benny Ba / Cisse Marveaux

  • 40 TorqToon // Sep 3, 2012 at 10:52 AM

    If somebody bids £40 for HBA he will be sold ! And we will reinvest that money wisely. Just as we did with the AC Money.

    Unfortunately we are not into the ‘big club’ status yet so will always need to sell if big money bids come in.

  • 41 jesperfuglsang // Sep 3, 2012 at 11:12 AM

    Torq…Ibiza and I are back now ;) we just needed the time off and some needed to went their frustrations lol

    It is not like I think everything is peachy kean or whatever it is called ;) but we need to keep perspektive as well…

    I would have liked to see a few need faces no doubt about it; Central defense is a worry from last season and we do have some concerns upfront.

    Ed raised a good question about why not play Benny as a withdrawn forward against Everton – he seems to be the dangerman these days :) I would rest Cisse and I actually think Pardew knows he has to; the guy has been playing non stop for 11 months or so.

    Tiote should be back by then; I am going on a limb here so please keep in mind it is just a suggestion, but I might be tempted to play Marv on the left and Ober on the right come net time :)

    Is Simmo alright? or what is his status? I am really gutted to hear that Raylor might be out for 6 months :(

  • 42 bills-son // Sep 3, 2012 at 11:14 AM

    Anita said he wanted to talk to Pards about where he would play but he did NOT say he didnt want to play full back. He actually said he prefers midfield but would play anywhere to help the team.

  • 43 Les Grossman // Sep 3, 2012 at 11:28 AM

    Bills-Son
    and you would know!!
    As you have a direct route to Mikes arse!

  • 44 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 3, 2012 at 11:29 AM

    Les…And the fact he read’s or see’s the interviews from the player?

  • 45 Munster Mag // Sep 3, 2012 at 11:49 AM

    Ibiza, fair comment about Pardews comments. Still wouldnt it be nice to have 4 more like him? :)

  • 46 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 3, 2012 at 12:43 PM

    Munster….It certainly would :)

  • 47 nufcusa // Sep 3, 2012 at 2:17 PM

    Newcastles start to the season has been hectic and we have come out of it reasonably well. Truthfully 4 points from those three games is nit the end if the world. I just thought they might cone with the spurs and villa results reversed.

    We are a good team but people saying we “should” beat spurs a ms villa and we “should” get a point at Chelsea. What planet are you on? We have 4 points but in looking at our games played we could easily have been on 1 or 3 at this stage if spurs had spoiled the party and their had been a variation in the villa result.

    Our 2 strikers always start the season unable to fuel their bodies correctly and understandably look a little sluggish. We now have time off prior to Everton to take stock and get the lads up to speed again. 4 points from Everton away and Norwich at home totaling 8 from 15 having play 3 of last years top 7, including 2 away games would be a very solid start.

  • 48 dunk // Sep 3, 2012 at 9:05 PM

    Jaded already This must be a joke what when we are into our 50 plus game will we be on death bed? Try working 40 plus hours at a heavy manual job for 52 weeks then feel tired and jaded instead of doing a wonderfull job of sport on many thousands of pounds per week then you can be tired and jaded




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