Alan Pardew will probably be a little bit relieved tonight, along with Newcastle fans, as the Ivory Coast won the first leg of their qualifying tie 4-2 against Senegal at home in Abidjan – phew!!
Gervinho when at Lille – scored for Ivorians tonight in Abidjan
But it wasn’t easy for the home side, as they had to come from behind twice, and three late goals eventually got them a satisfactory win by two clear goals, before the second leg on October 12th in Dakar.
Senegal went ahead when Dame Ndoye put the Teranga Lions ahead with a simply magnificent goal, as his rocket of a shot went zooming into goal, and that was only the second goal the Ivorians had conceded at home in the last seven years
Lille and former Chelsea striker Salomon Kalou then put the ball in the back of the net for the equalizer, in what was a quick and easy strike, but Salomon showed great skill.
And then Newcastle’s Papiss Cisse scored for Senegal with a wonderful headed goal to put Senegal 2-1 up, and send Alan Pardew and the Newcastle fans into some considerable concern, and that was only the third goal in seven years conceded by the Ivorians in the last seven years – two of them being tonight.
Here’s Cisse’s goal on video.
And then a quick counter-attack from the back from Yaya Toure of Manchester City, ended up with Arsenal winger Gervinho scoring the Ivorian’s second goal in as many minutes, as the ball went in off the cross-bar to put the Ivorians level.
Gervinho then had a great chance when he was clean through, but he was forced wide and the ball went for a corner and then Didier Drogba brought a great save from the Senegal goalkeeper, and from the resultant corner, Gervinho had the ball in the back of the net, but he was flagged for offside.
Gervinho was then brought down in the penalty area after 80 minutes, and Ivory Coast captain Didier Drogba took the ball to take the penalty, and he made no mistake from the spot, as he hit the ball low to the goalkeeper’s right giving him no chance – so after Senegal had been ahead twice, the Ivorians were 3-2 ahead with just 9 minutes to go.
The Ivory Coast continued to press as they tried to get a decent home advantage before the second leg in October and would you beleive it but they went ahead 4-2 when Cheikh M’Bengue, a former Newcastle target, deflected a shot into his own goal.
And then Didier Drogba seemed to have scored again, but he was yellow carded and it looked like the former Chelsea striker had used his hand to put the ball into back of the net – I guess it wasn’t the hand of God – not this time anyway.
The Ivory Coast were pressing all the time late in the game to try to increase their winning margin, and in added time Gervinho almost had the ball in the back of the net again for the Ivorians, but the goalkeeper made another good save.
And after over five minutes of added time the Ivory Coast ran out victors by 4-2, and now we have to wait of the second leg of the play-off until October 12th to be played in Dakar, before we know what our fate is.
And then we’ll know for definite whether Newcastle will lose both Demba Ba and Papiss Cisse to the African Cup of Nations finals in South Africa in January, or just Cheick Tiote – no disrespect to Cheick but losing only one top player is better than losing two.
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109 responses so far ↓
1 tenpointnine // Sep 8, 2012 at 8:08 PM
So far so good!
2 FatmanJoe // Sep 8, 2012 at 8:11 PM
Ideal really. Cisse remembers how to score again but ivory coast win.
Hopefully he’ll come back to us with a little more confidence from this.
3 zimtoon // Sep 8, 2012 at 8:13 PM
Now they go to Senegal for the return leg should be intresting!
4 toonking // Sep 8, 2012 at 8:16 PM
i don’t know wether he was good all game as i didn’t see it but knowing that cisse has scored a goal and ba is sitting on the bench, will pardew have a better understanding that we can’t us both together in the same team as surely senagal would have did it today considering both scores over 15 goals each last season.
5 Szarka // Sep 8, 2012 at 8:18 PM
Getting some luck
6 Sholadona // Sep 8, 2012 at 8:22 PM
Cisse’s goal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoROplTdMBo&feature=youtu.be
Not the best quality but it’s the only one on Youtube. Lovely goal
7 leavemyarselona // Sep 8, 2012 at 8:23 PM
Zimtoon so is there another game to play like.. Is that not ivory coast threw
8 DeanToon88 // Sep 8, 2012 at 8:25 PM
Cisse Scores for senegal but not for newcastle? wtf
9 Marty-Toon // Sep 8, 2012 at 8:26 PM
Good to hear that Cisse scored,maybe he can bring that onto the field in the PL
10 89Norcal // Sep 8, 2012 at 8:27 PM
Do they stay in Africa until the second leg? This time the ACON format is a little messed up.
Btw hopefully Cisse’s goal will boost his confidence a bit, worst case scenario would be having him go through a goal drought like Ba did.
11 Marty-Toon // Sep 8, 2012 at 8:28 PM
That’s a cracking goal he scored too
12 89Norcal // Sep 8, 2012 at 8:28 PM
@Sholadona, wow! what a header!
13 Marty-Toon // Sep 8, 2012 at 8:29 PM
89norcal
Why would they stay in Africa for a month??
14 89Norcal // Sep 8, 2012 at 8:31 PM
@Marty, well that’s why I’m asking, isn’t it?
The ACON this year is being compacted into so many knockout games, I wasn’t clear on whether they would stay to limit travel and train with Senegal/Ivory Coast.
15 veto // Sep 8, 2012 at 8:36 PM
we cant be willing two of our biggest players on to fail , its just not right , , no mater if we lose them for a few weeks .
16 Kyo // Sep 8, 2012 at 8:42 PM
Here’s a better quality version for Cisse’s goal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLxD5yKz3rs&feature=player_detailpage#t=5527s
17 Marty-Toon // Sep 8, 2012 at 8:56 PM
Well their teams that pay their wages would never let them stay away a month waiting around for a game.It would have to be a competition of some sort.
So no is your answer there
18 Pushy Pardew // Sep 8, 2012 at 8:56 PM
Ruddy
I like to think that i provided the motivation for you to prove your innocence to the back biter posters and whisperers. People who were only to happy for you to take the blame and we know who they are. If you recall I said that you were not the villain of the piece. Tads thought the episode was in June how little he assisted the process. I am delighted that your standing has been fully restored. As i said you provide entertainment and a genuine love of NUFC which is worth preserving. My job is done.
Cisse’s goal a sign of better things to come.
19 Dennis Twice // Sep 8, 2012 at 9:01 PM
Attack Senegal attack attack!
20 hoppernufc // Sep 8, 2012 at 9:08 PM
What a goal cisse lad! Not very often you see a header scored from outside the box
21 leavemyarselona // Sep 8, 2012 at 9:09 PM
Pushy pardew ,, probably has a degree in using spectacular posh words of grammar have you heard yourself get a grip when you ask your lass whats for tea do you speak like this ”” evening dear have you decided what pasta you would like with your evening meal.. Seriously sort it out write like you would talk to people normally !!!grade a tosser
22 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 8, 2012 at 9:10 PM
I guess it indicates Alan Pardew must have felt 100% certain that the club would bring in another quality striker having let Mcloven and Best go and with the possibility of losing Cisse and Ba to the ACON.
At 4-2 we still teeter on the edge of the abyss Liverpool style.
23 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 8, 2012 at 9:17 PM
Veto that is a good point and further to it, I wonder how Cisse and Ba feel about it all, and this on top of our refusal to allow Cisse to play in the pics. I mean Jesus, we really do need that extra striker anyway.
24 ToonJovi // Sep 8, 2012 at 9:20 PM
Not that we want to lose any BIG players but if we do does anyone else agree that Tiote should b the one to let go? Great player but last season and this one continued he is injury prone to say the least! Only small injuries yes but Wat do you think he’s available for 50% of games if that? If we 25 mil for him and it got invested wisely it might not be an awful move!
25 Pushy Pardew // Sep 8, 2012 at 9:21 PM
Leave
You illustrate my point perfectly. Have a good evening
numb nuts.
26 hoppernufc // Sep 8, 2012 at 9:27 PM
Just been reading that on average teams that are in Europe and premier league use 33 players in there season, we have 33 players however that includes 4 keepers and ranger and xisco so looking at past seasons was ate a bit short compared to the amount of Players other teams have used.
27 leavemyarselona // Sep 8, 2012 at 9:28 PM
Pushy numb nuts jesus you cant say that a man of your dictionaryabusive self
28 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 8, 2012 at 9:37 PM
Mmm…. Xisco and Ranger, sounds like a cheesy B grade 50′s American TV show. I was never a huge Best and Loverboy fan, but they’re a significant class above those other two clowns.
29 Pushy Pardew // Sep 8, 2012 at 9:37 PM
Leave
Ivory Coast don’t lose at home. Their through.
30 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 8, 2012 at 9:38 PM
Pushy
You mean you wanted me to help the process to show you had no idea what the fcuk you were talking about?
Think AMEOBI and leavemyarsealone have summed it pretty well tbf
31 Tsunki // Sep 8, 2012 at 9:39 PM
You wouldnt believe the alcohol – fuelled rant I was going to launch but I am dismayed by the negativity. Bad transfer window? Problems with the ACoN? Get a grip! We are Mags, people! Rant done, thanks for lis`nin.
Pushy Pardew – nice job on Sherlock Holmes` older brother ha ha.
Anything new then?
32 Tsunki // Sep 8, 2012 at 9:41 PM
Oh and Toonjovi – no, nobody does.
33 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 8, 2012 at 9:48 PM
Bollocks, if you’re unhappy about something, express it and defend it. This isn’t a “Care Bears” blog.
If it’s rubbish it will inevitably be shown up anyway, so go ahead and say it.
34 Pushy Pardew // Sep 8, 2012 at 9:48 PM
Tsunki
Saved by the intelligentsia. Ruddy has been found not guilty which leaves Beattie25, Tads and of course Jimmy. Apart from that very little.
35 cadete // Sep 8, 2012 at 9:50 PM
Toonjovi yeah I think the same great player but with bigi there who all round I think is better I would let tiote go for 25 mil for sure
36 Pushy Pardew // Sep 8, 2012 at 9:52 PM
let’s have a kangaroo court . Let’s not bother to ask Tads whether he’s guilty or not let’s just find him guilty. All those present put your hands up.
37 Pushy Pardew // Sep 8, 2012 at 9:55 PM
TADS
Has the cat got your tongue. Your good at bullying young posters.
38 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 8, 2012 at 9:56 PM
Ahh pushy pardew ya sad little WUM
What exactly is it that your after? Bit of attention? Or just to show yourself up?
Proper little sad case’s ppl like you, you post misguided opinion as fact then when shown otherwise you just keep digging in your little hole of self importance, well keep fighting the good fight champ as i really couldnt give 2 fcuks what ya think
Enjoy your little one man show peace out
39 FatmanJoe // Sep 8, 2012 at 9:57 PM
I love tiote. He’s the opposite of the ‘modern day footballer’ and a great influence on the team. We don’t lose very often when he plays.
Just annoying how often he misses games!
40 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 8, 2012 at 9:58 PM
And once again at 27 i dont see how thats an older poster or how anyone on here is supposed to the age of other bloggers its nit as if it shows up next to your name
41 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 8, 2012 at 10:00 PM
Yeah, selling Tiote would rip the heart out of us, out of me. He is FANTASTIC!!!
42 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 8, 2012 at 10:00 PM
Fatman joe
The lad genuinly seems to bleed black n white who knows he could turn out to be our very own ryan giggs and be hammering oppostion midfielders whilst wearing black and white for years to come!
43 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 8, 2012 at 10:02 PM
Oh and pushy pardew feel free to back up your claims with a few examples, in your own time like
44 cadete // Sep 8, 2012 at 10:04 PM
Fatman gotta agree the man is a legend already he really plays for the jersey money don’t seem to be his motivation and what every player should aspire to be, that bein said with the number of games he misses I would take 25mil for him that kinda money could really enhance the first team
45 FatmanJoe // Sep 8, 2012 at 10:05 PM
I’d be really disappointed to see him leave. They can take their 25m and shove it where the sun don’t shine.
As a sidenote, what’s going on with posters digging at each other these past few weeks? Let’s all kiss and make up.
46 pardew no 1 // Sep 8, 2012 at 10:06 PM
all the goals here in HD wished i watched it but missed it some great goals
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6C4O8VC9FsA
47 leavemyarselona // Sep 8, 2012 at 10:06 PM
TADS give him time to get the dictionary out and discover the meaning of words he writes and also few minutes to piece them together to publish a stupid well spoken sort of comment.. Sad case such a sad case
48 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 8, 2012 at 10:07 PM
Fatman joe
Did no one tell you if you dare have your own opinion you ate to face the firing squad?
49 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 8, 2012 at 10:08 PM
Just as money doesn’t seem to be his motivation perhaps it shouldn’t be ours in this gentleman/lions’ case.
50 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 8, 2012 at 10:10 PM
Jawballsaswallwell
Agreed
You cant put a cash price on the sort of fight and spirit players like tiote jonas colo and benny bring to the squad
51 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 8, 2012 at 10:13 PM
Wahay!!! and 3 cheers for Jonas another one of my heroes.
52 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 8, 2012 at 10:17 PM
Jawballsaswallwell
Jonas IS a geordie!
Leavemyarsealone
Prob gonna be a while then
53 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 8, 2012 at 10:19 PM
Favourite 5 Toon players in no particular order, Tiote, Guti, Benny, Colo, Cabs.
Actually, that’s harder to do than you first imagine.
54 FatmanJoe // Sep 8, 2012 at 10:27 PM
Tiote Jonas tim Taylor s and santon.
That is REALLY hard! It’s been a while since we’ve had so many really good players.
55 beefman13 // Sep 8, 2012 at 10:28 PM
Lads we have toon legends playing for us now, all brought in by this regime in the last two/three season.
we have bought and sold fantastically well, the SKY survey had us top of the pemiership table on this transfer windows dealings.
A lot of our fans wanted another couple in and to be fair i would have been fine with that as well
Thing is it did not happen, but we did not sell any first teamers which was massive for us!
A point i would make is it has ended being a no win situation as far as the club are concerned beacuse fans are moaning cos we did not bring in a couple of extra playersin yet if we had of sold say demba/tiote/cabaye there would have been hell to pay wouldnt there.
we may not have got everything most wanted in the transfer window but i am more than pleased with it, amilifatano really gud kid young bigi who is going to be outstanding, and a very promising curtis good, and top class vernon anita. in all honesty i go down that SKY survey route and say it has been a terrific window for us!
56 cadete // Sep 8, 2012 at 10:29 PM
I agree with almost all comments but tiote does spend alot of time out injured and we’ve all seen what bigi is like, the kid can tackle almost as well as mr t but has a fantastic range of passing I really can’t wait to watch him progress and he will hopefully be our Paul scholes/Ryan giggs
57 beddersmag // Sep 8, 2012 at 10:31 PM
I think losing tiote would be terrible. Even when he’s having one of those games when he loses possession a lot and he seems to lose his head- he still makes the difference. Amazing physicality and energy. The only person who seems able to cover him adequately in that role is perchinio (bigI soon?). Dream boat isn’t as good without toite alongside him either imo
58 FatmanJoe // Sep 8, 2012 at 10:35 PM
Agreed. Cabs really benefits from having tiote alongside him.
59 Big Pappa Cissé // Sep 8, 2012 at 10:37 PM
Cisse,Cabaye,Ben Arfa, Santon and Tiote
60 cadete // Sep 8, 2012 at 10:40 PM
Guti, staylor, ameobi, tiote, santon
61 leavemyarselona // Sep 8, 2012 at 10:41 PM
Ben arfa , collo,, tiote ,, cabaye , krul
62 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 8, 2012 at 10:46 PM
Tiote jonas colo benny boy and krul
Although any af the lads could easily make the list!
63 Cool Hand Luke // Sep 8, 2012 at 10:48 PM
Quite a header there by Cisse. Funny how most of his Bundeslige goals were headers, yet its all been shots for the toon.
64 Big Pappa Cissé // Sep 8, 2012 at 10:55 PM
Worst 5
Xisco,Ranger,Simpson,Williamson and Obertan
Not that I hate them, they are just my least favourite
65 check the toastie // Sep 8, 2012 at 10:58 PM
Top 5 – Benny, Cisse, Santon, Saylor, Mr T, in order.
Qualiteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
66 beefman13 // Sep 8, 2012 at 10:59 PM
Hatem amadeus ben arfa! Tiote lion heart! Krul the king! colo the colossus! Yohan sebastian cabaye!
colo may have been top three but a 1st dodgy season to say the least dropped him down.
bennys wonder goals gave me the closest thing to a climax without sex!
tiote for his all out aggresive no prisinors attitude.
cabaye for proving on many occasions we did not miss barton and nolan.
tim krul for saving us on so many occasions!
67 MagpiesFlyHigh // Sep 8, 2012 at 10:59 PM
haven’t you sussed it out yet …. Pushy Pardew is Beattie’s latest reincarnation
68 check the toastie // Sep 8, 2012 at 10:59 PM
Worst 5 – Simmo Simmo Simmo Simmo Simmo
No Qualiteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
69 Big Pappa Cissé // Sep 8, 2012 at 11:04 PM
@ Check
I take it you don’t like Simmo then
70 cadete // Sep 8, 2012 at 11:07 PM
Simmo ain’t my favourite player but there is no doubt he is the best rb we have works hard defends well and is on the line when needed as last season proved, but Williamson…… Not so much
71 Warwick Hunt // Sep 8, 2012 at 11:09 PM
Chancellor Angela Merkel arrives in France and is going through Passport Control.
“Nationality?” asks the immigration officer.
“German” she replies.
“Occupation?”
“No. Just visiting”
72 Big Pappa Cissé // Sep 8, 2012 at 11:11 PM
I have Always said Simmo would hace been brilliant 40 years ago but the modern day fullback has to do alot more than just defend
73 beefman13 // Sep 8, 2012 at 11:13 PM
Nice on warwick!
were do scousers get most of their trampolines from!
GOOGLE EARTH! HA HA
74 MagpiesFlyHigh // Sep 8, 2012 at 11:16 PM
Warwick
why the repost ?
Didn’t you read my post.?
Nobody bothers with passports in most of Europe as they have open borders ….. Schengen agreement m8…
75 roe997 // Sep 8, 2012 at 11:21 PM
most people on here realy dnt have a clue about football,running a fooball club or newcastle united.all day they spout shite on here then a month later they eat thete words.then jump on the band wagon saying i told you so,blar blar blar……..bullshit.
76 cadete // Sep 8, 2012 at 11:30 PM
Roe blow it right out your arse but thanks for your valuable insight every1 is entitled to their opinion
77 roe997 // Sep 8, 2012 at 11:34 PM
cadete….i take it you one the most on here.iv reading this blog for years now,and its always the same,full of hypocrites.
78 beddersmag // Sep 8, 2012 at 11:36 PM
I reckon Simpson is decent. Sure he’s slightly limited going forward but is quick, has decent positional sense, can tackle and has an awesome knack of making goal line clearances. With Benny in front of him it’s maybe not a bad thing that he is a bit conservative anyway. He was a big part of our solid defence last season so would be a shame to see him hounded out. He’s still young and will improve further. Let’s not lose him for nothing he’s worth a new deal. How much will we need to pay to replace him? Then we’ll end up paying that person higher wages anyway. Even if bring in Debuchy I’d keep him around for squad depth.
79 Transfer Sage // Sep 8, 2012 at 11:39 PM
My favourite 5
Ben arfa, shola, S Taylor, krul, sammy
My best 5
Ben arfa, cabaye, Ba, cisse, krul
80 Transfer Sage // Sep 8, 2012 at 11:42 PM
Roe
In fairness people can change their opinion.
When perch first came in you woul struggle to find one fab who liked or rates him. Now it must be 90% like him and are happy wih him in the side.
People are allowed to chane their opinion. It doesn’t meant they were wrong to start with its just things change, players improve, etc
Although it does annoy me when people are overly critical of players they don’t like and fail to see their favourites making the same mistakes.
81 AMEOBI // Sep 8, 2012 at 11:46 PM
Pushy Pardew,
Fcuk off the blog kid… Your crack is proper sht talk some sense.
On another point, Cisse’s header was a belter couldn’t believe he tried it.. Let’s hope he carries that to goodison park!
82 Warwick Hunt // Sep 8, 2012 at 11:48 PM
MFH. It’s a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!
83 AMEOBI // Sep 8, 2012 at 11:49 PM
Sorry about that, I forgot to refresh page he aint spoke since aha
84 Big Pappa Cissé // Sep 8, 2012 at 11:50 PM
@ Warwick
He is either stupid or winding you up
85 t00ntime // Sep 9, 2012 at 12:03 AM
Just want to say this proves cisse is capable of scoring. I still think ba and cisse upfront wud be fine if we could create the chances but we cant. In 3 games they have had like 4 good chances max (total) 1 ba put away and 1 shot from cisse that cud of gone anywhere but went straight in to cechs hands.
We have players capable of making chances (ben arfa, cabaye, marveux) but for some reason they arent.
Cabaye has been of form badly.
Ben arfa has been our best Player and has made some chances but has also missed some too.
Marveux isnt playin cause of jonas
No need to worry about ben arfa. But cabaye needs to find form or sit on the bench. We shudnt have players who are assured of a postion.
And imo jonas shud be subbed for marveux (or marveux shud be the winger and jonas shud move else where) i agree jonas is a workhorse but he is too defensive for a 4-4-2 he shud be but on to close the game off.
Imo thats our prOblem, we need to make more chances for diuble demba
86 NUFC_LEAZES END // Sep 9, 2012 at 12:03 AM
Some people on here need to get a grip like, we’ve only had 3 matches, cisse will score again. Just keep calm.
Rant over.
87 beddersmag // Sep 9, 2012 at 12:04 AM
Right I’m going to liven this up and no doubt open myself up to ridicule. However i have a confession to make. I ONLY ever bet against the toon. Now before you start slating me please hear me out. It all started a few years ago when I became convinced by watching the big Sam regime every week that we would be relegated. I bet 50 quid at 20s. The rationale was that I didn’t mind losing the money and genuinely hoped the toon would stay up. However, if they were to go down the blow would be softened by a grand. To this day whenever I have a niggling fear that we might say mess up against a lesser side, get knocked out the cup by minnow etc I have a little bet against us. It’s a no lose situation. You should all try it. Now I await you abuse. However, I love my club and in my head it makes perfect sense.
88 NUFC_LEAZES END // Sep 9, 2012 at 12:08 AM
My favourite 5 toon players are.
Ben arfa. Tiote. Cabaye. Collo. Timmmyyyy!!
Worst 5.
Simmo. Willo. Obertan. Ranger ( cus he’s a prick in real life aswell outside of football, aswell as being shit on the pitch.) Marveaux
89 NUFC_LEAZES END // Sep 9, 2012 at 12:10 AM
@beddersmag
Haa, I do the exact same but I bet on Sunderland to win, I genuinely hope they get beat, but if they win I’m happy that I win my money.
90 Transfer Sage // Sep 9, 2012 at 12:11 AM
Make sense bedders. Toon win is good, defeat sees you make a nice profit. Can’t lose.
Toon time
I think the problem we have is not the 442, it’s the personal.
For 442 to be effective you need the wide men to attack down the flank and whip the ball in for the 2 forwards.
Jonas cuts inside and ends up being too defensive. Ben arfa comes inside and wanders around.
It means we lack width and then the front men don’t get the service and are crowded out.
If we are to play 442 we need wingers who beat a man and cross. Shane ferguson and obertan.
These are not our best players sober seen to have picked a formation and shoe horned or best players into a formation that doesn’t suit them.
91 89Norcal // Sep 9, 2012 at 12:11 AM
Not sure if anyone noticed but it looked like Cisse played alone up front for Senegal today.
I always thought he would thrive as the lone striker but was hoping him and Ba would connect. Sadly I don’t think that’ll happen.
But their chemistry is secondary to the lack of supply they have gotten, imo. Cabaye and Guti have not done their job. Pound for pound, those 2 are the most dangerous strikers in the EPL.
92 89Norcal // Sep 9, 2012 at 12:13 AM
@Transfer Sage,
I agree we need wingers with pace, but Obertan’s crossing is average at best. Jonas whips a brilliant cross in now and again, but doesn’t have the speed to fly down the wing.
Ben Arfa does, but he’s taken it upon himself to use his freedom and strike from a central area.
93 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Sep 9, 2012 at 12:14 AM
Why Marveaux? Seems harsh
94 Transfer Sage // Sep 9, 2012 at 12:15 AM
89norcal
That’s what I mean. The players we have to use 442 aren’t that good.
To use our best players we need a 433 type formation where the two wide men next to the striker have the freedom to come more central.
95 89Norcal // Sep 9, 2012 at 12:19 AM
@Transfer Sage,
I agree, I’m almost certain Pards’ aspiration with returning to 4-4-2 was to have Ba central and more in the mix, opposed to being impotent on the wing. Even in the 4-3-3 he would eventually push towards the center of the box, into Cisse’s area.
Pards wanted to make it work with Ba and Cisse, but until he can get them to gel after some more training, he may be better off with 1 of them at a time.
96 Transfer Sage // Sep 9, 2012 at 12:19 AM
My least favourite 5
Willo – liability with his shirt pulling, should just focus on heading the ball
Ranger – had some talent but chose not to use it and act like a big man
Obertan – poor decision making and doesnt back himself to beat good players . Can only use lack of confidence as a excuse for so long, needs to take personal responaibility.
I don’t dislike any others.
I don’t really dislike these players. Just those traits I mentioned annoy me about them.
97 NUFC_LEAZES END // Sep 9, 2012 at 12:21 AM
In my eyes, marveaux hasn’t proved himself yet, I don’t hate him like how I genuinely hate Simmo and willo and ranger and Obertan
98 Transfer Sage // Sep 9, 2012 at 12:23 AM
89
I think they can play together. Just the players we use for 442 we don’t get traditional advantages of that formation, the lads we use dont suit it.
We be better off with one up top I think. It would mean that both strikers would have to fight for their place.
The one in best form could play central and the other could do the wide man job. Or be benched for somebody like marvoux. Would keep the competing with each other which would benefit the team
99 Transfer Sage // Sep 9, 2012 at 12:25 AM
Leazers
Why do you hate them so much? Just don’t think they are good enough? Or something else?
100 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 9, 2012 at 12:57 AM
Caveat to to my favourite 5 of Tiote, Jonas, Benny, Colo and Cabs.
Timmy Krul can be in his own little group because it’s a totally different skill set and he’s the shit.
And Shola as 1st reserve because he’s copped so much stick for so long and he’s still slaying Mackems!
101 t00ntime // Sep 9, 2012 at 12:58 AM
Lol dont get the hate for simmo lyk. He might not be the best RB in the world but he always gives 100%. Maybe u cud want him on the bench, but i dont understand how you can hate him.
Willo grinds my gears alot Sometimes he looks clumsy and sometimes not intrested. But again i dont hate him, he just annoys me sometimes
Ranger… Well 90% of newcastle hates him.
I think ur list shud be favorite and least favorite 5
Cause hating marveux cause he hasnt proved himself yet is kinda harsh lol
102 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 9, 2012 at 1:30 AM
Just saw Cisses’ amazing header – makes me think that ridiculous strike at Chelsea might not have been so flukey after all. Don’t we have some talent!
103 josh // Sep 9, 2012 at 7:05 AM
What’s with the hate thing with players. Some people are blinded by hatred it makes me laugh. Like when a few were all over willo one game and slated the f*** out of him and he got man of the match. Lololol
104 FatmanJoe // Sep 9, 2012 at 7:12 AM
Josh, agreed! Why start listing least favourite players anyway? Seems daft like! Simmo and willo get too much stick on here for my liking.
105 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 9, 2012 at 7:14 AM
Josh
Yeah agree was that against liverpool?
Remember he played a blinder and ppl were hust hammering the lad!
106 Grafton83 // Sep 9, 2012 at 8:32 AM
Top 5 in order
STaylor, Ben Arfa, Collo, Tiote, Cisse
Worst 5 in order
Xisco, Xisco, Xisco, Xisco, Xisco
107 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 9, 2012 at 9:02 AM
Jesus, we’re entitled to have our favorites, it’s a football club not an experiment in collectivism.
108 FatmanJoe // Sep 9, 2012 at 3:51 PM
No one is saying you can’t list your favourites…
109 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 10, 2012 at 1:05 AM
yes, misread a post I think.
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