The Newcastle United Blog

News, Views and Commentary On Newcastle United Football Club By Ed Harrison, A Proud Geordie And Lifelong Fan

The Newcastle United Blog header image 2
Header created by reader Tony Anderson
Howay The Lads!!



Newcastle Youngster Fit For Tuesday Night’s Qualifier

2:13 pm, Sunday, September 9th, 2012 by Ed Harrison · 117 Comments

Newcastle’s Shane Ferguson, who has yet to play for Newcastle this season, and he  did not play at all in pre-season, but he has just been passed fit to rejoin the Northern Ireland squad in Belfast, and Shane took part in training this morning.

Shane Ferguson – after scoring against Finland last month

Shane did play for Ireland in the friendly game in August and he scored in that game too, but the 21 year-old has been dogged with various injuries this season- the latest one being a groin strain – and it may even be to Newcastle’s advantage if he plays on Tuesday night, as it will give him some much needed match practice.

The Northern Ireland manager and former Newcastle player Michael O’Neill was speaking from the  training facility at Queen’s University:

“Having Shane back is a big bonus for us. He’s not had a lot of football but he’s had a good bit of work with his club.”  “We knew we couldn’t get him for two games so it was important we had him for this one.”

Northern Ireland lost their first qualifier, for the World Cup in Brazil in two years time, when they went down 2-0 to Fabio Capello’s Russia on Friday night, in what was a close game in Group F.

On Tuesday night, Northern Ireland are at home to Luxembourg, and they must have more than a decent chance to get a win in that game, and we fully expect Shane Ferguson to start the game, either at left back or on the left wing.

Then Shane has to force his way onto the bench at Newcastle, and he’s still one of Newcastle’s most promising youngsters, and the lad has always played well when given a chance in Newcastle’s first team.

Maybe he can make the biog breakthrough this season?

Comments welcome.

Follow us on Twitter, like us on Facebook, and +1 us on Google+

Google+

You can also reach Ed at admin@nufcblog.com

=============================================



Tags: Newcastle News · Newcastle Youth · Shane Ferguson · World Cup 2014





117 responses so far ↓

  • 1 roadfighter // Sep 9, 2012 at 2:33 PM

    Shane is an awesome prospect, he will indeed become a good NUFC player in years to come. And will provide vital depth in our cup competitions…

  • 2 ~Anita One Bites the Dust~ // Sep 9, 2012 at 2:33 PM

    Hope this lad makes an impact this season. He definetly has potential and has proven that he can do a good job down the left hand side.

  • 3 Ian Toon // Sep 9, 2012 at 2:33 PM

    Good news on Shane. He’s had a number of niggly injuries which have meant he’s missed the last two pre seasons. He has got a lot to offer as we saw two years ago when he first broke through. Maybe he’s the left. full back for the Europa – Pardew’s on the record saying that’s where he sees him playing.

  • 4 fungus44 // Sep 9, 2012 at 2:38 PM

    Dutch No.1 Tim Krul is heading back to Newcastle after suffering an elbow injury in Holland’s training camp.It’s a big blow for the 24-year old who was given his big chance against Turkey on Friday and was hoping to continue with the impressive form against Hungary on Tuesday.

    We’re not sure how serious the injury is, but it is serious enough for Krul to leave for Tyneside instead of Budapest. RKC Waalwijk keeper Jeroen Zoet has been called up as Krul’s squad replacement.

    The former ADO Den Haag stopper recently expressed his delight at being named the Dutch No.1 by new coach Louis Van Gaal. He was in line to start against Hungary too, before this injury.

    Krul joins Toon skipper Fabricio Coloccini on the player’s injured whilst on duty during this international break.

  • 5 Toon_Jock // Sep 9, 2012 at 2:48 PM

    FFS NO WAY!!!!!

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/8067618/Newcastle-United-goalkeeper-Tim-Krul-out-of-Holland-squad-with-elbow-injury

  • 6 Marty-Toon // Sep 9, 2012 at 2:51 PM

    Shane’s always played well or us,hope he gets fit as we need someone to put in decent crosses from the left and he’s quality in attack and defence.

  • 7 Marty-Toon // Sep 9, 2012 at 2:52 PM

    Great news on Krul !
    This is getting ridiculous like

  • 8 Marty-Toon // Sep 9, 2012 at 2:55 PM

    At least we have Stevie in goals if Tim doesn’t make the next game.
    It mightn’t be serious but they’d have to send him home if he won’t be able to train or compete.

  • 9 Marty-Toon // Sep 9, 2012 at 2:55 PM

    Everyone slept in today?????

  • 10 leavemyarselona // Sep 9, 2012 at 3:04 PM

    Nice bit of respect from belgium fans yestaday for gary speed turning 43

  • 11 leavemyarselona // Sep 9, 2012 at 3:04 PM

    Gary speed would of been 43

  • 12 leavemyarselona // Sep 9, 2012 at 3:07 PM

    http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A2Qea9JCQAE0aIp.jpg:large

    Sent from my iPhone

  • 13 Marty-Toon // Sep 9, 2012 at 3:25 PM

    Nice one from their fans

  • 14 jimmymagpie // Sep 9, 2012 at 3:26 PM

    My very worst fears realised with the news about Krul. I’ve seen Elliot play a few reserve games, and the thought of him or Harper playing many league games scares me sh-tless! You cannot explain to pr-cks like Ashley and the casino man, that we were very lucky with injuries really last season, but the chances of that happening again are slim, but they don’t see it. After selling Forster, another young keeper with some experience should have been brought in, and I said that at the time. Many chickens coming home to roost, and we know where the finger has to be pointed!

  • 15 Dannyo // Sep 9, 2012 at 3:29 PM

    @Jimmy
    I’m unsure of this, but i have noticed even Alnwick is getting preference over Elliott now.
    Elliott is not on the bench anymore, Harper is and Harper/Krul plays in Europe, without Elliott to be seen. And in one of our last pre-season games, Alnwick was on the bench.

    Anything to this?

  • 16 jimmymagpie // Sep 9, 2012 at 3:34 PM

    Danny – well, in my opinion, Elliot is a bag of sh-t, and goes down slower than an arthritic pensioner like me, and that isn’t supposed to be a comment on his or my sex life! I don’t know what he’s doing at this club, presumably on the say-so of Andy Woodman. Think about it, mid 20s, playing for a London club, and we pick him up for less than £1m?

  • 17 Ian Toon // Sep 9, 2012 at 3:34 PM

    Dannyo- Alnwick played well at Berwick on Friday but he’s just a kid.
    Albeit a promising one. Haven’t seen enough of Elliot to form a view
    but he seems to be out of favour. We had no real choice but to sell Forster because he wanted regular first team football. What I saw of him on television highlighted a problem with his kicking.

  • 18 jimmymagpie // Sep 9, 2012 at 3:35 PM

    Ian – any news on the mystery striker who was supposed to play at Berwick?

  • 19 Ian Toon // Sep 9, 2012 at 3:42 PM

    Jimmy – An unknown kid who didn’t impress me . He missed a really good chance and was subbed half way through second half. I doubt whether we’ll be talking about him anytime soon. Unlike Campbell who has to be given at least a sub appearance in EPL He’s just bursting with energy like a caged tiger. Inman and Good looked
    the business. But it was against Berwick- we wasted a lot of good chances.

  • 20 toonLYF // Sep 9, 2012 at 3:44 PM

    anybody know anything about Bigirimana’s international career? His wiki says He is eligible to play for Burundi, DR Congo, Uganda and England. Is he away with anybody at the moment?

  • 21 jimmymagpie // Sep 9, 2012 at 3:45 PM

    Thanks Ian!

  • 22 Ian Toon // Sep 9, 2012 at 3:49 PM

    Jimmy- Steady on the arthritic pensioner line it’s putting unpleasant images in my brain for heavens sake. I know Pardew had a spell managing Charlton but why sign Elliot- strange move. We still have a week to get Tim fit.

  • 23 toonLYF // Sep 9, 2012 at 3:51 PM

    i heard there’s an out of favour keeper called Jose Enrique playing for the second best team in Liverpool, if Tim is out, the loan window is still open…

  • 24 jimmymagpie // Sep 9, 2012 at 3:57 PM

    Ian – sorry for that mate. lol!

  • 25 FatmanJoe // Sep 9, 2012 at 3:58 PM

    I wouldn’t mind getting Enrique on loan in all seriousness and I bet he wouldn’t object to coming back now we’ve got real class in the team. But Rodgers has made it clear he won’t do it and i reckon he’s their best player when fit.

  • 26 toonLYF // Sep 9, 2012 at 4:02 PM

    i wasn’t being serious like, i would rather Perch play LB than Enrique.

    Bigi song – He’s big, he’s bad, Tiote is his dad, Bigirimaaaaana!

  • 27 jesperfuglsang // Sep 9, 2012 at 4:10 PM

    I wouldn’t mind a cold beer right now ;-) in all seriousness!

  • 28 ilovetoon8788 // Sep 9, 2012 at 4:17 PM

    Elliot is crap. Hope krul comes back fast. Harper is good. But elliot shouldn’t be anywhere near our goalposts. Scares me. He’s so bad I wonder why we even signed him.

  • 29 niafron // Sep 9, 2012 at 4:20 PM

    Bonjour messieurs.

    At least, no one can say Elliot was expansive.

  • 30 jesperfuglsang // Sep 9, 2012 at 4:26 PM

    Bonjour mon ami Niafron :-)

    Comment ça va?

  • 31 toonLYF // Sep 9, 2012 at 4:27 PM

    Salut niafron

    I’m not worried about Tim, i think he’ll be just fine, but still, my hate for International football has increased…

  • 32 beefman13 // Sep 9, 2012 at 4:56 PM

    shane ferguson, is a belter kid,just hope he can have good run of form and be injury free, got every faith in this kid my fav youngin at the toon.

  • 33 FatmanJoe // Sep 9, 2012 at 5:09 PM

    I know you weren’t serious but you’d rather perch than Enrique? I like perch and fine as a stand in but better than Enrique?

    Hmm. Nope.

  • 34 Dannyo // Sep 9, 2012 at 5:17 PM

    U’d think after a year at the club, Elliott would be better, being trained by better coaches and etc.
    But he really doesn’t look the part.
    Alnwick is closing in on 20 now isn’t he? Not much of a kid soon.
    Also played at international youth levels and touted for the first team.
    Wouldn’t be surprised to see him making the jump on Elliott in the near future.

    And on Elliott being brought in, imo it would just be as a filler tbh, maybe they gambled on him to have cheap as can be backup.

  • 35 toonLYF // Sep 9, 2012 at 5:18 PM

    of course he’s not better than Enrique, but if you would choose Enrique over Perch after last season, you are kind of missing the pure beauty and honesty of football.

  • 36 MickyD // Sep 9, 2012 at 5:23 PM

    THe best chant I have so far for Vernon Anita is
    ” Vernon Anita and he’s 5 foot 9 it’s Vernon Anita and he’s 5 foot 9 everyone needs Anita in the middle everyone need Anita ”
    Goes to the tune of brimful of asha 45

  • 37 MickyD // Sep 9, 2012 at 5:24 PM

    HEARD

  • 38 niafron // Sep 9, 2012 at 5:27 PM

    Pretty well must say.

    Wasn’t even aware Krull was injured. Nothing too bad i hope?

  • 39 jesperfuglsang // Sep 9, 2012 at 5:48 PM

    Niafron…still working late? You are not on so much anymore!

    ce qui se passe :-)

  • 40 geordie157 // Sep 9, 2012 at 5:49 PM

    If he stays clear if injuries fergs can become a regular in the first team. On one of previous articles there is more chance of xisco playing for us than ranger.

  • 41 bills-son // Sep 9, 2012 at 5:52 PM

    Jimmymagpie – would that be the same pr-ck Ashley who refused all offers for our top players this summer? Didnt you also say it was nailed on there would be no more signings and a few days later Anita arrived? Your hatred of Ashley clouds your sense and judgement.

  • 42 beefman13 // Sep 9, 2012 at 5:55 PM

    Alot of people seem to be slagging of rob elliot on here, par for the course i suppose it happens a lot of the time if they take a dislike to a player they have hardly seen.

    when are we going to learn?

    rob elliot is a very capable lad indeed and not a load of sh.t
    call yourself fans some of you, some of you sound so bitter it just brings me down. rob is very decent in every department i have seen him in every home game for the reserves he has played, he would definatly not let us down.

    Jimmymagpie, i take it your getting on a bit, you seem to like to do a lot of nasty snidey name calling of players and the owner and chairman and fellow posters on here.
    there is no fool like an old fool ,watch your disgusting mouth,you horror. fans like you are a frigan virus.

  • 43 beefman13 // Sep 9, 2012 at 6:02 PM

    bills, quite honestly some of our fans make me heave, MA has brought in tiote cabaye ben arfa krul cisse Ba marveaux colo jonas anita bigi amalifitano santon all have and will step up to the plate we have terrific youngins coming through as well. as well as the best scouting system in the premiership finding diamonds all the time.

    then you get the likes of jimmyfriganmagpie calling the owner a pr..k and players he has not seen a load of sh.t.

    beyond belief.

    now again MA

  • 44 dave 1961 // Sep 9, 2012 at 6:08 PM

    bills-son
    you will find that we did not get any offers for our players just agents tapping up if ashley had of had offers he would have sold players that’s why we purchased Anita as cover. if you want to stick up for your idol do it for the good things he does not for the bad things he doesn’t.

  • 45 dave 1961 // Sep 9, 2012 at 6:12 PM

    beefman13
    you will find that Krull was hear way before ashley.

  • 46 Ian Toon // Sep 9, 2012 at 6:29 PM

    dave1961- Your right Krul signed in June 2006 the season before Mike Ashley bought the club. Many fans mistakenly sight Tim as MA’s youth development policy in operation. Whereas it was only after Allardyce and Wise had screwed up on signings that the youth programme kicked in.

  • 47 beefman13 // Sep 9, 2012 at 6:33 PM

    1961,fair enough on krul, add perch raylor simpson and young tavernier who has any amount of potentential beacuse one bad first half against atrimitos is not going to change my mind that tav can prove very important anywhere along the back four.
    evertything is in place at our club to push forward.

    cos some fans dont like that we didnt bring a couple of extra players in they are starting the torch through the streets scenario.
    christ if any of the first teamers had been sold then it would have kicked off big style.

    sometimes you just cant win.

  • 48 voodoo85 // Sep 9, 2012 at 6:38 PM

    Krul returning to Newcastle after picking up elbow injury

  • 49 voodoo85 // Sep 9, 2012 at 6:38 PM

    http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/article/4/8067992/krul-injury-blow-for-holland

  • 50 voodoo85 // Sep 9, 2012 at 6:40 PM

    Old news i see !

  • 51 Ian Toon // Sep 9, 2012 at 6:51 PM

    Beef- what’s happened to Abeid ?

  • 52 Big Pappa Cissé // Sep 9, 2012 at 6:53 PM

    I hope Pardew has not forgotten about Abeid like. He is twice the player that Gosling is IMO

  • 53 FatmanJoe // Sep 9, 2012 at 6:58 PM

    Honesty and purity of football. Haha what you on about? Ok perch is decent and manages himself well in interviews but bloody hell. I want the best possible starting 11 I can get. Like I said – I like perch. I would even go as far as to say he’s one of my favourites at the club. But he’s not a lb and we’ve been crying out for a natural lb since Enrique left.

    My original comment – innocent as it was – was that if he became available on loan I would snap their hands off. He’s a brilliant player. Still scratching my head as to why you even brought perch into it???!!!!! Lol.

  • 54 jesperfuglsang // Sep 9, 2012 at 7:00 PM

    Rumors had it Abeid was meant to be loaned out; still think that will happen.

    Our youngs guns need time in a champ club to evolve…we cannot give all of them enough games as it is. I actually think Sir Alex has it spot on when it comes the youngsters.

  • 55 Ian Toon // Sep 9, 2012 at 7:05 PM

    Jesper – Just about to go but couldn’t resist responding. Hope you’ve had a great weekend without your fill of The Toon. There have been rumours that Abeid was going out on loan to a Turkish club but nothing substantiated. I’ll catch up with you sport.

  • 56 beefman13 // Sep 9, 2012 at 7:08 PM

    Ian, abeid is a good kid, i havnt got a clue where he is, maybe ready to go out on loan. Its been said but watch out for young adam campbell this season.
    the kid is as good as rooney, owen ,and shearer were at his age.

    toon superstar!

  • 57 FatmanJoe // Sep 9, 2012 at 7:09 PM

    We have a tendency at this club as fans to build our youngsters up. Really go on about them like they’re the next big thing and then get disappointed when they don’t do ought. I trust that if pardew thinks any of the youngsters aren’t ready and wants to send them on loan then it’s the best thing for the club.

    Everyone loved the look of tav and then the kid had a shocker in Greece and suddenly a lot on here came down hard. Gosling gets slated frequently even tho he gives it his all. Need to allow them all the chance to make mistakes and progress.

  • 58 jesperfuglsang // Sep 9, 2012 at 7:12 PM

    Yohoo :) Italics are back!

    …ohh how I wish Ibiza was here ;) lol

  • 59 MagpiesFlyHigh // Sep 9, 2012 at 7:13 PM

    bills-son

    Though I agree with some of what you say, some of the time, you are the by far most vociferous and unconditional supporter of MA on the blog.

    Okay so Jimmy Magpie is pretty downbeat most of the time but he could equally say about you that

    “Your love of Ashley clouds your sense and judgement.”

    @ 41 was way over the top – even by your standards.

  • 60 jesperfuglsang // Sep 9, 2012 at 7:14 PM

    …hmm that’s weird! When I refresh the page the italics are gone :( …and I was so happy then!

  • 61 jesperfuglsang // Sep 9, 2012 at 7:15 PM

    Bring back Italics :)

  • 62 Nufc-83 // Sep 9, 2012 at 7:22 PM

    I wish you were the manager fatmanjoe i would turn up and say ill give my all till the point were i collapse coming of the pitch and you would be happy and allow me to make mistakes. Sounds good to me!!!

  • 63 FatmanJoe // Sep 9, 2012 at 7:25 PM

    Ok.

    The kids should be allowed to make mistakes. How are they ever going to learn otherwise? No player, not even shearer went through their careers without making mistakes. But it’s what they do after that which is important.

    Motivational speech over. Feel free to feel inspired. Or not. I care little.

  • 64 MagpiesFlyHigh // Sep 9, 2012 at 7:36 PM

    FMJoe

    is motivating kids part of the day job ?

  • 65 FatmanJoe // Sep 9, 2012 at 7:38 PM

    It’s meant to be yeah. Some days it happens and other times not so much.

    Probably a bit of difference between the 19-22 year olds plying their trade at NUFC and the 7 year olds I teach but I bet the basics are the same.

  • 66 MagpiesFlyHigh // Sep 9, 2012 at 7:41 PM

    There are a few who would benefit from a bit of basic education… Power Ranger might do well in your class…:)

  • 67 dave 1961 // Sep 9, 2012 at 7:41 PM

    those fans who have an over inflated opinion of our youth setup and scouting network, we are still second best on most aspects, its a total myth about our fantastic youth team, last seasons development squad was almost dumped in its entirety. our youth setup will take time to progress from the years of neglect, the same with the scouting, it takes year to do properly, that’s why i expected a couple more younger players to be recruited to give us the strength we need until we start bringing better quality through. but its a long slog and we will not get any benefit for years to come, in the meantime we need to bring in kids from other systems until ours is fit for the purpose. but we are going in the right direction.

  • 68 toonLYF // Sep 9, 2012 at 7:48 PM

    Perch sums up everything football is about, and the reason why we are fans. I care a hell of alot more about effort, than ability. I think every other passionate football fan would agree with me on that one.

  • 69 FatmanJoe // Sep 9, 2012 at 7:48 PM

    Dave I agree completely. I think 2 seasons of work will see us improve that aspect of our club.

    Mfh – haha ranger needs a bit of work doesn’t he. I worked with a lot of similar ch to him a few years ago and I wouldn’t know where to begin with him!

    Good luck pardew and co!

  • 70 FatmanJoe // Sep 9, 2012 at 7:51 PM

    Oh i see. The implication is of course that I’m not a passionate fan. Because I would like Enrique to come back on loan while we sort out our obvious lb problem.

    I don’t see the correlation personally. But good talk.

  • 71 toonLYF // Sep 9, 2012 at 7:52 PM

    as a paying customer of NUFC, sitting in the gallowgate i would much rather see Shola fighting his heart out wearing the black and white with pride, than say, the likes of Owen giving a half-hearted performance in just “another football top”…. and Fatman Joe, if you don’t agree with that, i shall relate back to my initial post, and confirm, you really don’t support football for the right reasons.

  • 72 MagpiesFlyHigh // Sep 9, 2012 at 7:55 PM

    FMJoe

    I rate AP as a motivator and for his man management skills but I reckon the gangsta is too much even for him.

  • 73 FatmanJoe // Sep 9, 2012 at 7:57 PM

    Hmm. Still not seeing where my comment about Enrique relates to perch. Now you’ve brought shola in too. Are you going to mention Enrique at all? Because it kind of feels like you’re avoiding his name altogether. Which is weird. Coz that’s what the conversation is about pal.

    I like shola. I like perch. Not really sure what you’re going on about.

    Are you going to completely ignore this post and mention, oh I dunno, raylor now? I’ll save you time. I like him too.

  • 74 t00ntime // Sep 9, 2012 at 8:00 PM

    @beef as good as owen and rooney at that age? Are u sure? Rooney was already playing+scoring for england senior team. Campbell hasnt even broken in to our squad yet. Not saying he isnt good but rooney was an established england player before he was 18. And owen made his name when he was 18 for england.

    Cant see campbell breaking though our ranks+englands soon. I hope we will slowly get him involved with our team this year. But to give him a name like owen or rooney or shearer is putting alot of preassure on the lad.

  • 75 toonLYF // Sep 9, 2012 at 8:02 PM

    how can somebody be so oblivious in conversation. I obviously related to Perch/Shola due to my disdain for Enrique’s attitude. I understand it’s the way football is nowadays, but you saying you would have Enrique back made me think “would i?”…and after a very short think, no of course i wouldn’t, and i’d rather somebody LIKE Perch, be in our starting 11.

    Comprende? No Comprende?

  • 76 MagpiesFlyHigh // Sep 9, 2012 at 8:02 PM

    toonlyf

    that’s overstating it a bit.
    Effort is great but a donkey can graft and get nowhere. You need ability. When Benny shows his magic touch but doesn’t t track back would you rather a hard working clogger ?

  • 77 toonLYF // Sep 9, 2012 at 8:06 PM

    jesus? why do you’s take things so friggin literally?

    MagpiesFlyHigh – being a proffesional football player in the first place would suggest they have ability.

    on Ben Arfa – He does track back, moreso than any other similarly skilled attacker in this league. When he loses the ball you can see he is almost angry with himself and he ALWAYS chases back with 100% heart.

  • 78 dave 1961 // Sep 9, 2012 at 8:11 PM

    toonLYF
    And proof of your assumptions Gazza Vs Vinny Jones one ends up in drug rehabilitation & aa while the other ends up in Hollywood.

  • 79 FatmanJoe // Sep 9, 2012 at 8:14 PM

    You’re quite rude. I don’t think I am oblivious – just wanted to know why you kept going to players that were unrelated to our lb issue. It’s fine that you had it in your head why, but you actually need to write it on here so others can understand to.

    I’m actually going to finish this now. Coz you’re unpleasant and I dont actually think this is a proper football discussion. Which is why I like coming on here.

  • 80 pardew no 1 // Sep 9, 2012 at 8:15 PM

    i think abeid at this age needs a loan to a prem side like Norwich or reading or a top championship side coz at age 20 he should be in and around first team and getting experience
    but we dont know he might be injured like most of are squad

  • 81 MagpiesFlyHigh // Sep 9, 2012 at 8:18 PM

    Toon LYF

    You missed my point. Not all footballers are equally skilled, as you well know.
    The point about Benny stands. He is a flair player not a workhorse, regardless of how much his work rate has improved.

    You’re trying to equate Perch with a phenomenal level of commitment. Yes he gives his all. He has improved his performances hugely in the last year.

    I think the way Enrique behaved before he went to the bindippers was pretty poor too but it doesn’t take away from his skills and talent. He is a better LB than Perch end of….

    The problem with professional football nowadays is that it is a game played by mercenaries. Loyalty and commitment are more to do with career advancement than love of a club for most players. Not everyone is totally money motivated, but it dominates the game today.

  • 82 toonLYF // Sep 9, 2012 at 8:19 PM

    dave – good example – i like Gazza solely on his contribution to Newcastle. If it weren’t for that i would not. However Vinny Jones – never played for Newcastle but i respect him more, due to his evident heart and passion to do well. Look who turned out the best in the long run.

    Morale lesson – back the persistent tryer, not the temporary suceeder.

  • 83 FatmanJoe // Sep 9, 2012 at 8:24 PM

    Shola doesn’t always try.

  • 84 FatmanJoe // Sep 9, 2012 at 8:24 PM

    Couldn’t resist.

  • 85 toonLYF // Sep 9, 2012 at 8:26 PM

    MagpiesFlyHigh – Yes, i acknowledged the dominance of money, in our game these days. Yes, players are skilled in different ways, but you were implying that i meant i would have somebody with no footballing ability, over somebody like Enrique. When really, i was implying i would have a proffesional footballer of expected ability due to being proffesional (Perch) over a gifted player who doesn’t care (Enrique)

    and this one comes down to opinion, but i think Benny works hard enough on both aspects of his game, for me.

  • 86 FatmanJoe // Sep 9, 2012 at 8:28 PM

    And gazza nearly always put in 110%

    And vinnie jones didn’t.

  • 87 toonLYF // Sep 9, 2012 at 8:30 PM

    Fatma – what happened to your last 3 sentences @ post 79?

  • 88 MagpiesFlyHigh // Sep 9, 2012 at 8:32 PM

    Toon LYF

    I was comparing the grafter with the gifted player… not implying you had a rigid preference…but at least it’s clear now what you were meaning.

    Personally, there is room for both types of players in most teams. Workrate isn’t the only yardstick for starting. Totally agree that a sulky talented player can drag a team down though.

  • 89 FatmanJoe // Sep 9, 2012 at 8:32 PM

    Like I said after that – couldn’t resist proving you wrong.

    Didn’t like it eh?

  • 90 toonLYF // Sep 9, 2012 at 8:35 PM

    Fatman – take a leaf out of MagpiesFlyHigh’s book and comment like the grown up i’m sure you are.

    Reductio ad Absurdum mean anything to you?

  • 91 Tsunki // Sep 9, 2012 at 8:37 PM

    E ToonLYF vs FMjoe – I like this argument, it has absolutely neewhere te gan. Keep pumpin` it, lads!

    I also miss italics, we need cupid back here to `fix` it again.

    The GK scenario was one I brought up when Forster was being shown the door and Harps was injured. Nobody seemed to be concerned, as our £250k (Accuracy not guaranteed) keeps was evidently deemed sufficient backup for Timbo. So, IF Harps AND Tim are injured at the same time, will the jan transfer talk be about goalkeepers or defenders? Hmmm..

  • 92 FatmanJoe // Sep 9, 2012 at 8:38 PM

    I made lots of comments. You were talking about players who work hard and graft and used jones and shola as examples. And said gazza didn’t try.

    I find your examples laughable. You obviously watched different games to me over the last twenty years.

  • 93 dave 1961 // Sep 9, 2012 at 8:39 PM

    FatmanJoe
    Gazza ended up in rehab when he was one of the most skillful players ever to leave our region, if he had of put as much effort into his game as he did with his drinking he would have been one of our country’s greatest, his drinking was always more important than his football. we very rarely have one of these players that reach there true potential, even Maradona was hampered by his drug addiction. Keegan always admitted he was not gifted and had to put everything into his game to become a success.

  • 94 leavemyarselona // Sep 9, 2012 at 8:40 PM

    Toonlyf vinnie jones also got respect off gallowgate end when he went in goal against us.. He waved his arm in respect to the gallowgate aswell

  • 95 FatmanJoe // Sep 9, 2012 at 8:44 PM

    Dave it’s really dismissive to say that because he was an alcoholic he didn’t try. I saw gazza several times and he was one of the most hard working players on the pitch every time.

    His illness off the pitch is completely different.

    Tut tut ;-)

  • 96 MagpiesFlyHigh // Sep 9, 2012 at 8:44 PM

    dave

    The world is littered with the drunken or drugged super talented who can’t cope with fame, fortune etc.,
    George Best also comes to mind.
    It’s a thin line between genius and madness

  • 97 Tsunki // Sep 9, 2012 at 8:45 PM

    I dont think in any pro sport hard work can be preferred over talent, they must both be present, however talent that cant be reined in by application is equal to Ranger. That is a totally different thing to the lack of work seen at times in players like Robert, maybe Ginola, and HBA. Players who are evidently gifted are often (rightly) afforded latitude in their whole-game work rate because at any time a spark of magic can turn a game. Benny against Villa is a convenient recent example.

  • 98 FatmanJoe // Sep 9, 2012 at 8:46 PM

    Mfh

    Snap!

  • 99 toonLYF // Sep 9, 2012 at 8:46 PM

    enjoyed the discussion Fatman, but the can of Red Stripe in my fridge is a far more tempting prospect, sure you understand.

    WE’VE GOT PERCHINHO.

  • 100 FatmanJoe // Sep 9, 2012 at 8:48 PM

    PERCHINIO! Woo!

    Until next time.

    It’s been emotional.

  • 101 MagpiesFlyHigh // Sep 9, 2012 at 8:49 PM

    mind you Russell Brand is just pure shite… def not in super talented category… just a smack heid

  • 102 Tsunki // Sep 9, 2012 at 8:49 PM

    And when I mentioned HBA against villa I replayed my mental video of that shot coming towards me and into the gallowgate net ha ha mint. :-D

  • 103 FatmanJoe // Sep 9, 2012 at 8:52 PM

    It was class.

    He’s going to have a decent goal scoring season I reckon.

  • 104 Tsunki // Sep 9, 2012 at 8:54 PM

    Someone mentioned he could be a 15 goal man this season. Wouldnt bet against that. Or, unfortunately Mr Wenger making a bid for him.

  • 105 MagpiesFlyHigh // Sep 9, 2012 at 8:57 PM

    Let’s hope Benny does keep banging em in…. Ba and Cisse are kind of having a wee barren spell…

  • 106 Tsunki // Sep 9, 2012 at 9:02 PM

    Dont want it to sound harsh but I think it wouldnt be a terrible thing for either ba or cisse to pick up a minor knock so pards was forced to rejig his mid and forward line for a single striker for a bit.

  • 107 Tsunki // Sep 9, 2012 at 9:11 PM

    Ok I killed it. Goodnight all.

  • 108 MagpiesFlyHigh // Sep 9, 2012 at 9:12 PM

    nothing more to be said then :)
    deid blog

  • 109 nufc786 // Sep 9, 2012 at 9:28 PM

    anyone?????

  • 110 beefman13 // Sep 9, 2012 at 9:29 PM

    toontime, i do realise its quite an assumption rating campbell with the three mentioned, big boots to fill of course but he has everything apart from height, he is only 5ft 6ins, he has pace, cool finishing ability, decent in the air for a lad of his height, fantastic awerness of players around him, great linking up and playing the right ball at the right time as well.

    i remember watching rooney as a sub at the age of 17 playing against us up here he just looked the part straight away when he came on and he just flew after that.
    owen did the same for liverpool when he got the chance.

    shearer of course may have been 18 before he got in saints team but i think he got a hatrick on his home debut and the rest is history.

    its all about getting that chance, campbell is so level headed as well, he may get a chance first of all in europe, if he gets a chance say as a sub especially at home i think he would do the business.

    les ferinand said you have a new geordie superstar on your hands after his 15 min hatrick against spurs reserves the other week, i think they know at our club the lad is special also.

  • 111 nufc786 // Sep 9, 2012 at 9:30 PM

    12 years of shola………
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXjtgHTPNPQ&feature=player_embedded

  • 112 Magpies-till-d3ath // Sep 9, 2012 at 9:51 PM

    Ben Arfa is only an 81 rating in Fifa 13! Hazard is an 87! Wtf!!!

  • 113 nufc786 // Sep 9, 2012 at 9:53 PM

    hazard is 87???????? damn…….. and ben arfa is PL proven….
    with wonder goals and such…….

    hazard has hit the ground running of course…… but its just baffling

  • 114 cyprus // Sep 9, 2012 at 9:54 PM

    AP: “If fair play rules are fairly applied..” that’s funny
    What’s up with Drogba and/or Bolt? Especially the latter would be a piece of marketing genius to hire. Especially if he knows how to kick a ball and run after it. The celebratory pose in a NUFC shirt if he scored would make the front pages.

  • 115 Big Pappa Cissé // Sep 9, 2012 at 9:57 PM

    @ Magpies

    What star rating are Newcastle as a team ?

  • 116 nufc786 // Sep 9, 2012 at 10:05 PM

    http://www.simplyfifa.com/t6438-fifa-13-team-ratings-premiership-teams-for-now

  • 117 Big Pappa Cissé // Sep 9, 2012 at 10:08 PM

    Cheers 786, cant wait till Fifa 13 drops like




previous post: Newcastle Will Be Challenging Top Clubs In Near Future

next post: Now Tim Krul Injured On International Duty – Oh No!