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New Signing So Versatile For Newcastle

3:24 pm, Wednesday, September 12th, 2012 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 343 Comments

After Vurnon Anita’s performance at right back against Aston Villa last time out, 51% of our readers already believe Vurnon is the best right back we have on the books.

Vurnon Anita – versatile performer for Newcastle

The Dutch International looked very comfortable in the full back position when he took over from Danny Simpson, after Danny had pulled a hamstring in the first half.

And of course he can play on either side, having played at left back for a full season under then mansger Martin Jol at Ajax a couple of years ago.

Vurnon is a versatile player and a good one too, and he’s likely to quickly become a top player at Newcastle.

This is what the 3 times capped Dutch International had to say today on the Newcastle web-site today:

“We’ve got two injuries on that side so if the manager needs me on that side I’ll do my best for the team,”  “It went well against Aston Villa. As a right-back you can come forward a lot, so I did that also and yes, I think it was a good performance.”

“In the second half against Aston Villa, we played much better than the first half. We worked hard and we scored a goal so we must take that spirit into the next game and do that from the start.”

“Central midfield is my position so the main focus is on the midfield – but if the manager needs me on the right side I can also play there.”  “I saw the highlights (of the Everton vs Man U game) and they were very aggressive. They played very well so we must be prepared.”

“I know two players that play there. I played with Steven Pienaar at Ajax – he was there when I made my debut.”  “And Johnny Heitinga, also from Ajax and the national team.”

“They are very good players so I know they have a good team and a very strong team.”  “It’s a good opponent to play against and we’re playing away so we must be prepared.”  

“The great supporters, they keep cheering for us and that’s a great spirit which is good for us.”

It may be hard for Vurnon to nail down a starting spot in the middle of the park, became of the good form of Cheick Tiote and Yohan Cabaye, but he does provide competition to those two  top players, although we expect Anita will soon become a starter at one of the full back positions, and probably right back.

Anita was named in the provisional squad for Holland’s World Cup qualifiers against Turkey and Hungary,  but missed out on the final cut, but if he continues to perform at Newcastle as he’s done so far this season, he should make the Dutch squad in the future, and travel with his team mate Tim Krul.

Here’s the results so far in our poll that Vurnon leads.

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343 responses so far ↓

  • 1 New kingdom United // Sep 12, 2012 at 3:37 PM

    Header created by reader Tony Anderson

    PLEASE ADD RYAN TAYLOR TO THE BANNER

  • 2 Big Pappa Cissé // Sep 12, 2012 at 3:49 PM

    I am sick of hearing people saying “add this player and that player to the banner” it does my head in. If you want to take time out of your life to create a better one then go ahead. The only way Ed is going to be able to please everyone is if he puts a squad photo on which I suggested the other day. Just relax, I am sure he does not have anything against Taylor (after all he scored against the scum :) ) but it is his choice at the end of the day

  • 3 cupiddstunt // Sep 12, 2012 at 3:50 PM

    Mindshaft from previous thread we are by all accounts £150 mil in debt so where do you get the £200 mil from.

  • 4 Marty-Toon // Sep 12, 2012 at 3:53 PM

    Ryan Taylor can be added above the banner on the medics bench

  • 5 New kingdom United // Sep 12, 2012 at 3:58 PM

    its not fair how does MR TAYLOR feel about this.

  • 6 Hatem's better than Messi // Sep 12, 2012 at 4:07 PM

    You could miniaturise Raylor and have him sitting on Pardew’s shoulder. It would look very surreal …

  • 7 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Sep 12, 2012 at 4:09 PM

    Erm, well if Ryan taylor himself comes on this very blog and asks to be put on then maybe Ed could look at it, but you can’t change it every week!

  • 8 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 4:22 PM

    If we don’t get RTaylor on the banner I’m leaving the blog :)

  • 9 Les Grossman // Sep 12, 2012 at 4:22 PM

    Gone from Newcastle United Blog, to Twatful Banner Blog in the blink of an eye.
    Go grow some friggin turnips you muppets!!!

  • 10 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 4:23 PM

    So, anything new today people?

  • 11 Big Pappa Cissé // Sep 12, 2012 at 4:25 PM

    I want to see a picture of Shola holding the decapitated head of Martin (Prawn eyes) O’neil on derby day :)

  • 12 Super Magpie // Sep 12, 2012 at 4:28 PM

    I disagree as Anita supposedly being our best right back.
    He played an hour there and Villa hardly attached down the Left.

    Tbf he looks much more comfortable than Simpson when attacking but we haven’t really saw him defend yet. If we had brought in Debuchy for the extra €1m (absolutely disgraceful) then we would be fine.

  • 13 BelfastMagpie // Sep 12, 2012 at 4:29 PM

    Add me to the banner,A picture of me smoking a cigar beside Pardew,would look great.

  • 14 Marty-Toon // Sep 12, 2012 at 4:31 PM

    Back to football
    Anita seems to be a great buy,RB will do nicely until Simmo is fit again unless we need him in midfield .
    We have perch that can fill in either position too.
    Although I don’t rate Willo as well as our other defenders we will need his height against Felliani and Everton

  • 15 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 4:31 PM

    Oh yes, let’s all bend down in front of ye old great one Mathieu Debuchy as we all know he is a Premier League proven RB who would have undoubtedly won us the title…

    What? what do you mean people are only claiming he is an excellent player based on 3 games in the Euros? Surely no sensible person would do such a thing?

    Get off Simmo’s backs and stop whining. Debuchy didn’t come so let’s change the record and start supporting the lads eh?

  • 16 check the toastie // Sep 12, 2012 at 4:34 PM

    Anita is better than Simpson at Right Back after one game by the poll, surprising as Simmo is so consistently average, thought thats what people liked on here.

  • 17 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 4:36 PM

    Check

    As someone rightly pointed out Anita is apparently the best RB based on one half there, in which he had to do no defending at all.

    It wouldn’t have something to do with people’s hatred of him that Anita is leading the poll now would it? Of course that would be assuming that some of you aren’t narrow minded fools who would rather slate one of your own based on 50 odd mins of another player playing RB.

    Ridiculous.

  • 18 Marty-Toon // Sep 12, 2012 at 4:36 PM

    Super magpie
    But we didn’t buy Debuchy so we can’t look back even though we all think it’s a joke that we didn’t spend the lill extra.
    But Anita looked comfortable and as you say he’s got better quality goin forward.

  • 19 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 4:38 PM

    Super Magpie….Completely agree there. There may be a few that have seen Anita play LB at Ajax, then fair play. However, it’s who is the best RB at Newcastle? – 60 minutes doesn’t really cut it. He may well be, you could even suggest an educated guess is that he is, but we can’t say he is as of yet.

  • 20 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 4:41 PM

    Ruddy….Seems a couple of days away has left you too calm. Where’s the fighting spirit? :)

    Super….Sorry, was catching up. I don’t completely agree. I don’t think we should have paid an extra £1m – if that is even what the figure is. I’m sure you know my thoughts on that issue

  • 21 Munster Mag // Sep 12, 2012 at 4:46 PM

    Ruddy, he was good enough for Pardew to want badly by the look of it, but too expensive at 6-7mill for the fat man. The guy is a fine right back , an aggressive tackler , who would have added attacking balance to the right side of the pitch. At the end of the day, we came up badly short in terms of additional first team quality, but at least even the happies recognise that now. And so we move on to the next window, and hope that we will be a bit more ambitious.

  • 22 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 4:51 PM

    Munster

    Pardew wanted him for the team, but clearly GC and AP recognised that there was a price that was on his head as to how much the club was going to pay for him. Lille’s asking price exceeded that and therefore we did not cough it up. It is called good business.

    Don’t call us the happies. We are disappointed that we didn’t bring in additional quality in terms of ready made players for the first team but we appreciate the sterling quality that we have coming through and prefer to take a more measure optimistic approach.

    Once more, don’t call us happies.

  • 23 Ketsbaia9 // Sep 12, 2012 at 4:52 PM

    I don’t know if people are being sarcastic about Simpson, but he’s definitely overrated. Hopeless player. That’s why Man Utd and Blackburn didn’t keep him on their books.

    Raylor is our 3rd best right-back behind Santon and Anita. The editor has made a mistake with his suggestions.

    Also, Raylor should definitely be on the banner instead of Simpson. I’d also like to see Curtis Good replace Williamson.

  • 24 Super Magpie // Sep 12, 2012 at 4:56 PM

    Ibiza

    Still, the point was that Simpson should be starting RB regardless. Plus I don’t think Anita will be happy playing RB every game.

    You can’t judge a player after 60mins.
    I bet you the people who said he should be sold after losing at Chelsea are the same people saying he’s our best RB.

  • 25 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 4:56 PM

    Didn’t you say you’d stop posting?

  • 26 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 4:56 PM

    Hi Munster….I responded to your post on the last thread. @21….”we came up badly short in terms of additional first team quality, but at least even the happies recognise that now. ” – Obviously I cannot speak for everyone included in the “happies” (in fact, I’m assuming I belong to that clique :) ), so I will only speak for myself. I wanted new players in and we got some. I would have liked Debuchy and like to think he’d have been a success at Newcastle, he may still in fact. However, I do not feel we came up short, that’s my opinion on it anyway.

  • 27 Super Magpie // Sep 12, 2012 at 4:56 PM

    Kets is back. :lol: :lol:

  • 28 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 4:59 PM

    Ruddy…I have to give Ed a chance to put RTaylor on the banner. Oh, are you not talking to me?

  • 29 Ketsbaia9 // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:00 PM

    He should never have been purchased in the first place. We should’ve gone for better players like Bradley Orr etc.

    Anita has to start at right-back in the next game with Santon on the left and Perch and Saylor in the centre.

  • 30 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:01 PM

    Should we put Campbell in there instead of Shola as well? Abeid in for Cabaye?

  • 31 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:01 PM

    Sorry Ibiza

    How incredibly rude of me. Well I do agree that we should have Raylor on the banner but it is a little crowded at the minute.

  • 32 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:02 PM

    Troll alert. Do not respond to him.

  • 33 Super Magpie // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:03 PM

    Bradley Orr. :lol: :lol: :lol:

    You never fail do you…

  • 34 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:04 PM

    Crowded? How is that possible with such a thin squad as it is – give your head a shake young man :)

  • 35 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:08 PM

    Oh how foolish of me, on second look I have realised that the banner is full of nothing but pathetically inept youngsters who add absolutely no depth to the first team.

    Thanks for the lesson Ibiza ;)

  • 36 Super Magpie // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:08 PM

    Did anyone see Steve Wraith’s tweets yesterday…
    He reckons all is not well within the squad.

    Sounds like BullSh*t, but you do have to hope this isn’t true.

  • 37 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:11 PM

    Super Magpie

    Think some people wanted to make clear that he goes out of his way to spout negativity about the club whenever he feels there is good reason to.

    Would put some of the more negative posters on here to shame it would seem. The club’s official twitter denounced it as rubbish

  • 38 Ketsbaia9 // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:12 PM

    Abeid should replace, Sammi, Bigi, Amal or Obertan. Abeid is better than all of them at the moment.

  • 39 Ketsbaia9 // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:13 PM

    Abeid should be starting 15-20 games this season. From what I’ve seen, he has been the stand out player of the youngsters. He is also far better than Gosling.

  • 40 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:13 PM

    Ruddy….You are most welcome. Please try and figure these things out for yourself though, I am really busy at the minute with all the horror surrounding our club. I have devised an elaborate master plan to remove Ashley from the club – it involves pulleys and Greggs pies.

  • 41 Ketsbaia9 // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:13 PM

    Hence, AC Milan want Abeid.

  • 42 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:14 PM

    Tread softly Ibiza…Ashley get’s all sweaty and angry when Gregg’s pies are involved, I truly fear for your life.

  • 43 Munster Mag // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:15 PM

    Ibiza, how did we not come up short….especially when you see the threat that injuries can now make. Of course we came up short mate – we should have added more first team quality, at a reasonable cost. Debuchy is not beyond our means – but our model will not allow us to challenge the top 4 consistently. Well, we might challenge them, but not do any real damage. I have no doubt that a quaity first tea,mer will be sold in the summer – Cabaye i would think – we’ll get lots of money ( 20 mill ? ) and spend 10 mill at a push. And the hippy happies ( ;) ) will say its progress. I say no – progress is when we show more ambition to take on Arsenal and Co consistently, and use decent investment on top of the quailty we had – as a vehicle for that challenge. I’ll bet Pards was well hacked off. He nearly gets us to europe (CL) and has to make do with one good first team addition???? Meanwhile the only silverware we’ll smell is the cutlery in moma’s kitchen!

  • 44 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:16 PM

    Super…..Look, there may be some truth in it, it may just be rubbish. I do question why Steve has tweeted it though. It’s supposedly to let the fans know the truth, yet he doesn’t feel the need to tell the whole thing. Why? Well, it has started quite a frenzy overnight. I’m leaning towards free publicity myself

  • 45 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:17 PM

    Munster are you deliberately being a provocative negger?

  • 46 Ketsbaia9 // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:22 PM

    Yeah, I expected us to strengthen more. You could say it’s Wiliamson and Simpson’s fault that we haven’t invested enough in the summer. 3rd place would have got us players like Giroud, Vertonghen, Marvin Martin, Luuk De Jong etc.

  • 47 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:27 PM

    Nothing but neggers and trolls today.

    This blog really is wonderful at times.

    hasta la luego senor Pedro ;)

  • 48 BelfastMagpie // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:28 PM

    Bradley orr haha love that one Ketsbia.

  • 49 beefman13 // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:29 PM

    Munster, our role model is arsenal and we are catching them in my opinion,

    they have constantly been top four, maybe they havnt won nowt for a few years but with this ideal they have won plenty in the past and are maybe the best footballing team outside of barca.

    i would be more than happy with that.

  • 50 Ketsbaia9 // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:30 PM

    Yep, he offers more defensively and offensively than Simpson. Don’t rate Tavernier either. Can’t see him making it. I’d like to see Amalfitano given a chance.

  • 51 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:31 PM

    Good afternoon gents
    Haven’t been on in a few days but on monday morning my wife gave birth to the newest member if the toon army little olivia! Shes happy healthy and looking forward to watching her first toon match vs everton with me and my little boy!
    So whats been happening chaps anything exciting???

  • 52 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:31 PM

    Munster…..Are you saying that the injuries have or could threaten us? If it’s has, then no, it hasn’t yet imo. We’ve qualified for Europe and have in no way fallen off the pace with regards to the league after three games. If it’s could, then how is that decisive in saying we “have” come up short. Surely it would be we may have come up short.

    I can certainly see the point of there being reason to be concerned, but as of yet, nothing more imo.

    We all know we need more quality in depth to really mount a sustainable challenge on the top 4, the issue lies for me, in the timeline to achieve this. If we keep building the squad at our current rate, are you really saying we’re far off it? We may lose one (May being key there – we haven’t to date) and then replace with 2 or 3 (granted cheaper and perhaps not to the value of the player sold), which should over time improve the team (perhaps not the vacated position straight away). During this time our young players will be continuing to improve and will naturally improve the quality as time goes on.

    I like how you reference the top 4, but then say Arsenal and co. Is that because you feel other than Arsenal it’s not realistic to expect us to compete with Chelsea and the Manchester clubs even with say £10-20m investment?

    I doubt highly that silverware is coming to SJP this season. Perhaps we are capable (well, we are, look at Birmingham), but it isn’t this seasons priority for me. Looking to the future, does that lack ambition or is it perhaps greater ambition for the club? I’m sure that is debatable with no right or wrong answer.

    Lastly, are we sticking with hippy happies? I can deal with it personally, as long as you’re happy (but not a hippie) with people branding constructive criticism by you as being a negger.

  • 53 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:34 PM

    Ruddy….Come on now. Where has the bullying optimist gone? Take it easy :)

    Tads…Congratulations. Glad all went well and little Olivia joined the toon army happily and healthy :)

  • 54 bills-son // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:36 PM

    I don’t get this Abheid worship from some fans on here.

    I’m not saying he isn’t a decent young player but he can’t be in the same street as Bigi otherwise Pards would be putting him on the bench or in the first team. The fact that he isn’t, and didn’t last season either, tells you something….

    He’s not good enough yet.

  • 55 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:37 PM

    Bills….Whilst he seems a decent enough player, I think you’ll find there is only one person who worships him. Sadly no points for guessing who that is.

  • 56 jesperfuglsang // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:38 PM

    TADS…congratulations here from Denmark :-) you must be so proud…

    I like the name Olivia :-)

  • 57 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:38 PM

    Everyone shhh…Jespers about….pretend you’re not here :)

  • 58 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:41 PM

    Ibiza, yeah you’re right. Normal service will resume shortly :D

    Tads

    Many congrats from the emerald isle! Olivia is a lovely name and I am glad all is well! Hope your wife is keeping well and I hope Olivia doesn’t have the same trouble with wor catem as you do! ;)

  • 59 Super Magpie // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:46 PM

    Abeid seems to have disappeared recently, I last saw him score against fenerbache and haven’t since. I wonder what’s happened to him, it’s the same with ferguson as well, Although he’s been injured. But this time last year everyone was Saying these lads could be future stars and now no one really knows what’s happened to them.

  • 60 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:46 PM

    Jesper

    Listening through the Black Holes and Revelation album, ahhhh happy memories.

    I wish some of the posters on here would crawl into a supermassive black hole and never come out of it… ;)

  • 61 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:47 PM

    Cheers lads!
    Ibiza
    I need to get here a membership to the OV i dont want her first words to be ASH OUT!

    Jesper
    Thanks my wife choose the name otherwise she would be called sammy or anita ;)

    Ruddy
    Its all good with wor catem now i threatened to bench him until he learnt to be a team player!

  • 62 cupiddstunt // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:48 PM

    Ketsbaia9 @ # 46

    Only in the world of the barely lucid could someone come up with “it’s Wiliamson and Simpson’s fault that we haven’t invested enough in the summer”

    Ha Ha Ha Ha kkep taking the meds my boy just keep taking the meds.

    What’s your address again It’s something Salters rd, yes?

    I need to send more fruit.

  • 63 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:49 PM

    Super Magpie

    Patience is a virtue, their development could have stalled for a number of reasons. Some young players can hit the ground running and be ready for selection i.e Bigi, others need to have their skills honed in at training before they can be unleashed in the first team.

    Abeid has undoubted skill and will come good in my opinion, if he doesn’t break into the first team set-up this season then perhaps AP will look into getting him some playing time on loan.

    Fergie seems to have recovered from his injuries as he played 70 odd mins for N.I last night.

  • 64 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:50 PM

    Tads…Well then you must teach her the ways of optimism. If her first words are ASH OUT, then you may need to re-think the living situation.

    I must stop, first it was abuse the cat and now the possibility of removing your newborn from your home. My apologies

  • 65 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:51 PM

    Tads

    Well that just shows how astute a man manager you are and hopefully you will earn the respect of wor catem and many like him so hopefully you will begin to see his true potential :P

  • 66 cupiddstunt // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:52 PM

    Toonarmydownsouth @ # 51

    Nothing anywhere near as exciting as your news.

    Happy and healthy is the best news of the lot.

    All my best to the mom. :)

  • 67 jesperfuglsang // Sep 12, 2012 at 5:59 PM

    Ruddy…that is a great album…and one could always hope ;-) lol

    Yesterday was the Blue Van day…or was it the day before (I think Ibiza and I were talking Black Keys yesterday)

    TADS…I think you might owe your wife one with the catem thing ;-) haha

  • 68 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:01 PM

    Jesper

    I wasn’t familiar with the Black Keys until El Camino and I must say that I think it is an exceptional album, haven’t got round to listening to any of their other stuff but I have heard their other albums are very good.

    Must get onto it.

  • 69 beefman13 // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:01 PM

    TDS, Olivia meaning beauty and dignity!!! lovely name, if she grows up with those qualities she cant go far wrong! congratulations.

  • 70 Super Magpie // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:01 PM

    Ruddy

    Yes, we must have patience with them. Its just strange that we haven’t heard anything from Abeid in a long time. Usually we hear about Vuckic,Sammy,Bigi,Fergy etc but Abeid seems to have just dissapeared.

    Like you said it could just be he isn’t developing as quickly as others
    I’m surprised we haven’t loaned him out tbh. Im sure a lot of Championship clubs would love to take him on loan.

  • 71 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:02 PM

    Also jesper, don’t know if you have heard of this young man, but I stumbled across on while I was watching jools holland (not sure if you are familiar with him either)

    His name is Michael Kiwanuka, Ready to Believe is a beautiful song, his other songs are lovely easy listening too

  • 72 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:04 PM

    Super Magpie

    I wouldn’t be surprised if that is the case this season, however first part of the season I think we’ll keep him here to watch how he develops, and if he isn’t near the first team then we will probably loan him out in and around January time, much like we did with Vuckic to Cardiff last year.

  • 73 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:04 PM

    Ruddy…If you watch Jools Holland, did you ever see Raghu Dixit? Some really good music, but haven’t listened to much tbh.

  • 74 Pushy Pardew // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:04 PM

    Super Magpie
    The reserves are @ Whitley Park on Friday 7pm KO. Hopefully Abeid will be playing. He featured in a lot of the early friendlies but has been off the radar recently.

  • 75 jesperfuglsang // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:06 PM

    Ruddy…the Black Keys was more less a new territory for me as well…I knew a few tracks from El Camino and after Ibiza put me to work I realized I new a few more tracks :-)

    I like their album Brothers now as well :-)

  • 76 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:08 PM

    Ruddy…Just looking in to this Michael lad, seems to have done with Dan Auerbach…interesting…will need some further research

  • 77 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:10 PM

    Ibiza

    Can’t say that I have heard of them, I only watch Jools Holland now and again, wouldn’t be a fanatic as I find him very annoying but it is a great platform to hear up and coming musicians.

    I realised that I knew a good few songs from the El Camino album long before I actually knew who they were, it’s funny how that happens isn’t it.

    So it seems we all have a lot of homework to be getting on with. haha

  • 78 jesperfuglsang // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:11 PM

    Ruddy…I am not familiar with either, but I’ll put my Sonos to work later ;-)

    …I love to hear new music :-)

  • 79 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:13 PM

    Sonos? And what would that be?haha

  • 80 beefman13 // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:15 PM

    Lads sorry do disrupt your jammin session but?

    I think Vernon Anita may prove to be maybe the best signing in the whole transfer window in terms of verstility,

    Frank De Boar claiming he performs to the same standard at right back/left back, central midfield or defensive midfield. 6.7 million forme is a total steal for that sort of high quality.

    Cabaye and Tiote, i love at the toon but they are set were they play, this kid Anita could be the diamond in the pack.

  • 81 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:15 PM

    Cupid
    Thankyou good sir very kind

    Beefman
    Thanks for that olivia is a family name on my wifes side so nice to know the meaning of the name! Luckily if shes grows up beautiful ahe has a very protective big brother to help keep the lads in check, honestly hes so protective its like having a 3 yr old tiote in the house!!

  • 82 jesperfuglsang // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:16 PM

    Ruddy…Ibiza asked the same the other day ;-) lol

    http://www.sonos.com

  • 83 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:16 PM

    Ruddy…Don’t go out of your way, but worth a listen :)

    Love finding new music, rivals my passion for NUFC if I am honest.

    So, as well as Newcastle news, if anyone out there has found some musical gems, feel free to send me over your scout reports :)

  • 84 Ketsbaia9 // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:17 PM

    Maybe Abeid’s been hitting the clubs too much. He should be on the bench at least every game. It’s unfair that Bigirimana has jumped straight into the team and Abeid can’t get a game.

    Maybe we aren’t playing him in order to fend off interest from AC Milan???

  • 85 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:19 PM

    Seems like a nifty little system you got going on there jesper!! So it’s like a wireless surround sound system?

  • 86 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:19 PM

    Beefman…It’s music hour! :)

    He does seem a promising player and if he does live up to the hype a real bargain – yet again. When will the club stop looking for cheaper good players. There are plenty of goof players out there £10m+

    Anita – Tiote – Cabaye = What a midfield

  • 87 beefman13 // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:19 PM

    TDS, is that bigi the three year old Tiote ha ha

  • 88 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:21 PM

    Ibiza

    “No man could ever love you like I do” – (name of the song not my feelings for Ibiza :P) is amazing, what a fusion of incredible vocals, acoustic and Indian music all rolled into one, might have to go even deeper now!

    Right, pulling back to football again. I agree that Anita could prove to be the steal of the window, let’s hope he continues to grow into the way we play and adds not only versatility but quality.

  • 89 jesperfuglsang // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:22 PM

    Ruddy…yes and you can keep building on it adding one in every room you want :-)

    You stream music via spotify or something similar :-) and you use your ipad or tablet as remote :-)

    God it is sweet B-) lol

  • 90 Ashton // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:27 PM

    Hey guys look! It’s the daily and eternal “Anita is versatile” article on this blog!!

  • 91 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:27 PM

    Jesper

    Must look into it, is it expensive? Have you listened to any of Michael Kiwanuka’s stuff? Haven’t heard his stuff with your fella Auerbach so it’s something I am going to have to delve into further, I heard him a while back on Jools Holland but would probably need to go deeper into his stuff :D

  • 92 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:28 PM

    Ashton

    And your point is?

  • 93 beefman13 // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:29 PM

    Ibiza, great midfield that will be if AP tries it especially if and when cabaye gets up to speed with tiote when he comes back, fabulous protection for colo and saylor if they are playing, plus they can be forward thinking as well releasing benny marveaux demba then cisse.

    Especially at home were i would play marveaux even though AP has jonas in front of him, he jonas cant really be called for his 100 per cent attitude i just have a preference thats all.

  • 94 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:31 PM

    Ruddy….Ha ha, that’s the song. Thought I’d avoid the song title in anticipation of Ibizatoon loves having his nose up Ruddy’s backside, etc etc :) Great piece of music.

    P.S. Auerbach is the singer and guitarist from The Black Keys.

    Ashton….Have there been a few? I was thinking the guy had left the club with the lack of news. Was good to learn he’s versatile though…never knew that

  • 95 jesperfuglsang // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:31 PM

    Ruddy…no it is not that expensive. if you have speakers you can get started for around £400.

    I haven’t listen to him yet – it is Sonos time later ;-) lol

    What or who is this Jools Holland you guys keep talking about? :-)

  • 96 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:32 PM

    If Simmo is out for the Everton game then I fully expect Anita to play RB, but when he gets back to fitness then we will probably get to see the 3 man midfield that we have all been craving.

    Who knows, we might get to see a midfield 3 with Bigi partnering Tiote and Cabaye, wouldn’t bet against it.

  • 97 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:36 PM

    Jesper

    Jools Holland is a musician who presents his own television show in the UK called Later with Jools Holland in which he showcases both new and upcoming musicians along with already established musicians. It is a good show, don’t know if you would be able to get watching it in Denmark though.

    Ah Ibiza I was unaware of that, might give it a rattle after I am finished with my man Raghu, really liking this I must say.

    So how does the peeps think we will fair against Everton?

  • 98 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:37 PM

    Personally If Simmo is out and Anita is at RB for Everton and with the idea of 3 in the middle, I’d put Jonas in there with Tiote and Cabaye and bring Marveaux in on the left. That’s some hard working, skillful, flair and pace going on.

  • 99 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:39 PM

    Ibiza

    Regardless of whether we are playing 4-4-2 or 4-5-1 or 4-3-3 I think Jonas is better serving the team from either CM or DM, he doesn’t have the pace to beat the man but he is such a hard working player that a midfield of him, Tiote and Cabaye would definitely put in some shift that would give any midfield in the league a run around.

    Marv on the LW would give us much needed technical balance on the wings.

  • 100 Ashton // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:41 PM

    Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    I was just projecting the lack of new news in an abstract way

  • 101 jesperfuglsang // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:43 PM

    I really think Everton is a great team and we seem to have our problems with them.

    For me it can go either way; it is not a game I think we’ll create many chances so I hope Pardew will stay clear of 4-4-2 :-)

    But I probably depends on whether or not Tiote will be playing…

    I we go 4-3-3 and are not outright unlucky I think we’ll win 1 or 2-0…or at least I hope :-) lol

  • 102 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:44 PM

    Well some could be forgive for thinking that it was a somewhat critical view on Ed’s articles. If that was the intention what I would suggest is for you to go out and write your own blog and see how you fair.

    If that was not the intention and you were merely venting frustration at the lack of meaty news to get our teeth into then I share your plight, however, why don’t you join in on the Anita in midfield or even the musical discussions that are currently taking place.

    Or better still, throw out a fresh topic of discussion for us to engage with you.

  • 103 solano // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:45 PM

    Dudtitspunc…just stopped laughing at your confusion between “self-deprecation” and “self-depreciation” on yesterday’s thread.
    You’ve never really got the hang of the technical financial terms like ‘profit’ and ‘loss’, have you?

  • 104 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:46 PM

    Ruddy….Where does Cabaye play in a 4-4-2 if Guti is in the middle? I agree completely he is no longer a winger. Tiote obviously has to be in the middle, so where does that leave wor dreamboat? On the left of a 4 man midfield? Unfortunately, I think Guti’s days may be numbered, especially when Simmo is playing leaving Anita available for a CM position, which is good of course, but bad in that spidey should always be there.

    Basically what I am saying is we need to sell :)

  • 105 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:49 PM

    Ibiza

    I’m not claiming he’s a better CM than Cabaye or Tiote, but if there is a need for rotation or injuries to be supplemented then I would have no problem seeing Guti being thrown in there.

    However, there would then be the argument for the likes of Vuckic, Bigi, Anita and Abeid to be given that chance over Guti so it is a difficult one to categorically state one way or the other.

    It seems that Pards likes his grafting style and wants him in the team, albeit in the position that we think he isn’t quite suited to any more.

  • 106 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:52 PM

    Always amazes me when someone’s first comment is an inflammatory one designed to just call someone out. That would surely indicate someone who is content only with starting arguments.

  • 107 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:54 PM

    Ruddy…I didn’t for one second assume you thought he was better :) I was more questioning my own thoughts. For me, he should always be in the team. However, he doesn’t really fit in to my best starting 11 anymore. Thank god we have such a disgustingly thin squad – lots of rotation required…phew ;)

  • 108 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:55 PM

    Ruddy….That would seem a fair assessment…although I have no idea to whom you’re referring

    *whistles and looks around the room*

  • 109 beefman13 // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:56 PM

    Jonas is loved by all players and staff at NUFC, i feel he will get the nod v Everton beacuse of his workrate and defensive capabilities.

    For me he slows our game down were as marveaux quickens it up and if you are forward thinking there is not as much need for defensive work.

    Am not knocking jonas he put in huge shifts last year, especially v stoke away when he was mighty.

  • 110 solano // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:56 PM

    Ruddy…your comment @45 in response to a perfectly valid opinion @43 maybe a point in fact ;-)

  • 111 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:57 PM

    I think the days of CMs playing on the wings are over….(remember Barton on RM?)

    I think it may be a strong sense of sentimentality that wants us to see wor Jonas in the team every week but the reality is that he isn’t quite good enough to be making the best XI any more, but he is a great player to have in and around the XI.

    Thin squad? Forgot about that :P

  • 112 Ian Toon // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:57 PM

    Ruddy- Good to see the self imposed exile is over.
    The Chronicle vote for player of the month for August surprise surprise has HBA leading with 93% of the vote. Bigi has 5% and there is a sympathy vote of 2% for Raylor.

  • 113 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:58 PM

    Does seem a bit remiss not having Ryan on the header considering that strike at the stadium a’ shite. GLORIOUS!!!!!!!

  • 114 Ashton // Sep 12, 2012 at 6:58 PM

    Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    “Well some could be forgive for thinking that it was a somewhat critical view on Ed’s articles. If that was the intention what I would suggest is for you to go out and write your own blog and see how you fair.”

    That’s a retard logic. I’m only interested in what’s going on at my club and what some intelligent fans think of what’s going on at my club. You are not one of those fans. Now I can criticize Ed as much as I like and still read his articles without losing any self respect. And why would I need to write my own articles?? That’s like saying “If you don’t like your government, start your own government) it makes no sense at all.

  • 115 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:01 PM

    Solano

    Failing to see what point you are making, but I suppose that is down to my inferior intellect.

    If you care to read much more clearly I took exception the “happy hippies” comment, I won’t engage a post in a reasonable fashion if someone is going to call me something that I have specifically asked them not to, which is why I thought he was being deliberately provocative.

    As for calling him a “negger”, if he calls me a happy hippie, I will call him a negger, childish I know, but as Jimmy will tell you I am not worth much as a poster given the fact that I am so incredibly juvenile.

    I look forward to whatever arrogant retort you have in store :D

  • 116 Ian Toon // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:03 PM

    Ashton- See the spirit of the Paralympics has really taken off with you.

  • 117 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:04 PM

    Ashton

    I am debating whether or not to respond without losing my rag with you given that you’ve just called my logic “retarded”, did you not read the second part of my post in which I said that if that was not your intention then I shared your frustration?

    As for being able to criticise Ed as much as you like, I don’t think you can. Read his articles and be annoyed if they are repetitive but you do not have a right to come here and slate him for providing a service that is second to none to NUFC fans worldwide.

    As for the whole starting a government blah blah, now whose logic is retarded?

  • 118 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:04 PM

    Ashton….Sorry to chime in, are you saying that if you don’t like something you should just complain and not do something about it?

    I don’t think that’s how the intellectuals of the past have moved on civilisation, but it’s crazy enough it may just work!

  • 119 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:05 PM

    Versatile often means not top class, but I have very high hopes for Anita at right back, not least because a top class right back would gives us a really formidable look, injuries aside.

  • 120 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:07 PM

    Also Ashton

    Did you hear of the Arab Spring? Seems like your logic is flawed my friend

  • 121 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:10 PM

    Ashton lad dont use the term retard no need for it just makes you look stupid and undermimes your point as people will dismiss it the second they read the first line

  • 122 solano // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:11 PM

    Ruddy…I know you like to talk illogical philosophical bo$$ocks quite a lot of the time…but I do sometimes enjoy your comments from the Emerald Isle ;-)
    It seems a shame that JimmyMag has so affected your psyche by his postings.
    My point was you were a tad harsh on your fellow countryman @43 and a little sensitive to the “happies” reference. For goodness sake…it is in no way a “chicken and egg” situation – the “negger” tag has been a derogatory one for a lot longer and has been thrown at fans and supporters who love NUFC and want to see it successful.

  • 123 jesperfuglsang // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:14 PM

    Just to sum up who I should look into:

    Michael Kiwanuka and
    Raghu Dixit

    Is that about right?

  • 124 Ashton // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:16 PM

    Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    I wasn’t even criticizing Ed in my first post. That’s not the point anyway it’s all about your quasi elitist attitude! “hurr don’t like it write your own stuff drrrrrrrrrrrr” That’s just wrong! Criticism is good and it makes you better. I don’t need your permission to exercise my ideas about Ed and his writing style.

  • 125 Ian Toon // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:16 PM

    Jaw
    I would play Perch at right back and Anita in DM with Tiote. Bigi would be on the bench to start . Anita was bought for a role alongside Tiote so that Cabaye can feature in an advanced midfield spot were he’s best.

  • 126 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:16 PM

    Jesper….That will do for this evening, yes. Enjoy.

  • 127 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:18 PM

    Pray tell, what illogical philosophical bo$$ocks have I offered? Or are you just toying with multi-syllabic words to stretch that vocabulary of yours?

    Jimmy is full of it, and if it takes me to call out his rubbish then I will gladly do so. Don’t tell me you believe the nonsense he was going on about how Mrs Cabaye hasn’t settled in Newcastle and that he came by this info because his wife talks to her over the garden fence…that’s just bloody stupid!

    And I am an oh so sensitive soul, it is one of my many redeeming traits that makes me such a likeable chap. I don’t judge a term by claiming it is more or less derogatory. I took personal offence and asked for it not to be used, which he deliberately did so in a somewhat antagonistic fashion (oh how I love to stretch my vocabulary also ;) )

    Although, to claim that the negger tag is solely used for “fans and supporters who love NUFC and want to see it successful” is somewhat misleading, one could infer that those who aren’t neggers do not wish to see NUFC be successful again. Well I am not a negger and I would love nothing more than to see NUFC be successful. Where does that leave me oh wise one?

  • 128 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:18 PM

    I’d be surprised if Guti isn’t always in the side when fit, he seems a model of consistency, has a HUGE motor and is a Pardew favorite, quite rightly. He is versatile in the very best sense of the word.

  • 129 solano // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:19 PM

    As for my reference to dudtitspunc…it was a belated reply to abuse aimed at previous misspellings ..the blog would be worse than the ‘apologist love-in’ it already is for the majority of the time, if we were to pick on minor errors that do not deter from overall intentions and meaning.

  • 130 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:20 PM

    Jesper
    Might be a bit late in the discussion and the album i suggest is a couple of years old now but as you seem to share my love of muse the black keys and im goona assume the foo fighters, because lets be honest every1 loves the foo fighters!, but i love the “what did you excpect from the vaccines” by the vaccines short album but good!
    Also like noel gallagers high flying birds quiet chilled

  • 131 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:21 PM

    Ashton, I didn’t say you were criticising Ed, read again. I said one could be forgiven for thinking you were criticising him.

    And I then said IF that was your intention then why don’t you go and do something about it, i.e create your own better version of what he is doing. Quasi elitist? Where do some of you get these ridiculous pigeon holes?

    I then further qualified my stance by saying that if you did not intend to criticise him then I felt your frustration as a fan of the club, and I offered suggestions to kick on with conversation.

    It is a shame that you took the view of insulting me instead of actually engaging in conversation

  • 132 Jail for Ashley // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:22 PM

    Congrats Tads,
    All the best to you and yours.

  • 133 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:23 PM

    “Apologise love in”

    Do explain yourself there solano or are you in the business of throwing out phrases, such as illogical philosophical bo$$ocks, without ever giving meaning to them?

    Would suggest that you have a weak foundation from which you are making your comments from.

  • 134 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:24 PM

    *Correction “Apologist love in”

  • 135 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:26 PM

    Beefman/Jawballsaswallwell

    Aye jonas is probably the hardest working most honest member of the squad and is a truly loved player throughout the club

    Beefman
    While i agree marv adds much needed pace to our squad i think for an evening away game to a tough fixture like everton i think having jonas slow the pace of the game may well be a good thing for us help us control the game and hopefully frustrate everton

  • 136 beefman13 // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:27 PM

    JAWBALL, i know were you are coming from versitile normally means james perch type, good honest solid kids, thing is frank de boar says anita is class every position he played for ajax.

  • 137 Ashton // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:28 PM

    Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    It’s like talking to my 80 year old grandpa!! You just don’t comprehend what I’m saying and where I’m coming from. I will try to simplify my idea as much as I can; Even if I were to criticize Ed(which I didn’t) that doesn’t give you the right to act like an elitist toward me.

  • 138 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:28 PM

    JFA
    Cheers bud best of all is she basically sleeps all night except for one feed!

  • 139 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:30 PM

    Yeah Ian, that’s clearly good, but I do like the symmetry of two classy attacking fullbacks outside of Colo and Taylor. Splendid back 4.

  • 140 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:30 PM

    Ashton

    You don’t seem to comprehend that to have a reasoned conversation you do not need to insult me every bloody turn round.

    How am I acting elitist? For the record why don’t you actually scroll back up and see what it was that I actually wrote to you and then explain why you are in such fine fettle towards me. Once you’ve done that maybe we can trash out why it is you are so angry at me.

  • 141 blissna // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:33 PM

    Whilst we’re on the subject of Ed’s writing style, if he uses the words mercurial in any more Ben Arfa articles, I’m going to put my foot through my monitor/iPhone and send him the bill.

  • 142 blissna // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:34 PM

    I can see perfectly well why he was angry at you. You were a bit arsey about him posting the truth. I got a giggle out of it.

  • 143 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:34 PM

    Ruddy….I think he may have moved on from the original point (probably as there wasn’t anywhere to go with it) and now is on the fact that if he had been critical, you have no right to tell him it’s not right. Seems to me if someone has the right to say something about any subject another person has the right to comment on the comment – I think I might need a lie down

  • 144 cockneymagpie90 // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:36 PM

    My team for everton…
    4231
    Harper
    Anita-Saylor-Perch-Santon
    Guti-Tiote
    Barfa-Cabs-Marvo
    Cisse

    Subs i would use are Ba, Bigi, Amafitano.

    Thats a strong team including the latest injuries and i hope to god Pardew doesnt play the Dembas in a 442 because it just doesnt work.

    HWTL!!!!!

  • 145 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:37 PM

    Blissna after your original comment I don’t think we’ll be getting much sense out of you, and I’d imagine looking at your feet makes you giggle.

    Ibiza

    Yeah I think I may just move on, surely people cannot believe that they have every right to criticise another person’s work without having their criticism criticised?

    Madness :P

  • 146 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:38 PM

    Does it help at all that my first impression was that it was perhaps a dig at ed? Probably not. Does it help if I point out that Ruddy didn’t actually accuse you of either, but gave his thoughts on each possible scenario? Am I p*ss*ng in the wind here?

  • 147 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:39 PM

    The answer my friend is pissing in the wind, the answer is pissing in the wind.

  • 148 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:41 PM

    M-M-M-M-M-Madness you say?

    Cockney….Love the line up. Bit early to call which subs to use though :)

  • 149 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:41 PM

    They’re famous for that at Ajax aren’t they, getting their youngsters to play in all positions to develop a deeper understanding of the game and broader basic skills, so I guess that’s versatile in the best sense. Ofcouse, I realise versatile doesn’t always mean just useful, Gutii, Milner for example are excellent in different roles, Anita I’m expecting to be out of that mould.

  • 150 Ashton // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:41 PM

    “How am I acting elitist?”

    By telling me that I shouldn’t voice my opinions and criticism and that I should create a blog just to say what I want to say. I wasn’t insulting ED and I wasn’t doing anything wrong. Who are you to tell me what and what not to post?? You don’t even understand what I’m trying to say! but you think I should leave this place and create my own to say things you don’t understand. That’s a quintessential elitism.

  • 151 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:42 PM

    Ruddy….Great minds….After I wrote the comment, I did put Dylan on – Back on Muse now mind :)

  • 152 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:43 PM

    Here’s a stick, go ahead and take the wrong end by all means.

    As Duncan Bannatyne would say, “I’m Ooot!”

  • 153 jesperfuglsang // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:44 PM

    TADS…I actually saw The Vaccines here in DK a year ago :-) they had just released the album in question :-) it was a great concert. I didn’t know much about them before.

    Wreckin’ Bar (Ra Ra Ra) ;)

    About the Foo, I am actually not that big a fan (don’t hate them or anything :-))

  • 154 cockneymagpie90 // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:44 PM

    @IbizaToon

    True but u cant deny they are good subs to bring on and could deffinately change the game

  • 155 Ian Toon // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:45 PM

    Jaw- yes I look forward to the day when we have two class full backs bombing forward but against Everton we might have a few walking wounded drafted in. I would introduce Bigi slowly to the Premiership.
    The game vEverton will be won through the middle so I favour Tiote and Anita protecting the back 4. Things could change depending who’s fit by Monday.

  • 156 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:45 PM

    I’ve went through Raghu Dixit’s album, Michael Kiwanuka’s album Home Again and now I am on to Dan Auerbach’s album and I am loving it.

    I was on Muse earlier but have veered out in search of a nirvana from which I shall not be bothered by vitriol…

  • 157 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:46 PM

    Cockney….Very true…I cannot deny. On the face of it, very good subs – tactical requirements aside.

    Jesper / Tads…Vaccines are hit and miss for me. As for the Foo’s….oh yes, oh yes indeed.

  • 158 solano // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:48 PM

    Apologist Love in, Ruddy ;-)
    Yes, a provocative phrase – but I use it because, as a longterm reader of this blog and a poster for about 19months, I see how any regular (and coherent) poster who dares criticise certain things at NUFC is labelled a “shite stirrer” “negger” or “troll”.
    These are terms that are used very liberally by a lot (and I’m not accusing you, Ruddy, of all of them). Moreover there seems to be a little exclusive band of posters who masquerade under differing personas and espouse “free debate and free speech” and yet pick on those who dare to question what passes for the status quo on this blog.
    Many good contributors have left and what used to be a broad spectrum of opinion has narrowed considerably. Consequently,the relevance of what passes for the “majority” view on here is diminished.

  • 159 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:49 PM

    Evening Ian….How’s things?

    Ruddy….Glad to be of some assistance…makes a nice change ;) Hmmm…Nirvana…time for some live & unplugged

  • 160 Marty-Toon // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:49 PM

    Rooney and Rvp out for utd,should make it interesting.
    They still ave wellbeck and chicho but they could lose a lot of points in the next few weeks….ie nice

  • 161 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:49 PM

    Jesper
    Yeah the vaccines are a great band live, fair play about the foo but for me they are one of the best live bands ive ever seen!
    Another fantastic band live, must of seen the 8-9 times now and they were brilliant everytime, is a band called the rifles there not an overly well known band but if ever stumble acrois some tickets i highly recommend going to see them!

  • 162 Ian Toon // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:51 PM

    Ashton — More to the point do you understand what you’re trying to say?

  • 163 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:53 PM

    Solano

    I never thought you would have been one of those that would have bought into the lie that a “band of us”, as if we were Robin Hood and his merry men, have gone around and with our wave of optimism have bullied people off the blog. In fact some long term posters have stopped posting on here because they are sick of the back biting that happens on this blog on a near daily basis, nothing to do with a so called clique mentality, as if it is criminal to have shared opinions.

    I personally, have not used the negger phrase in a long time, yes I used it today in response to the happy hippy phrase which may have been unwarranted and I do not label people as neggers, shit stirrers or any such pigeon holed term, if anything I am the antithesis of that viewpoint, I wish to engage people in a reasoned debate regardless of their stand point, as long as they use reason and logic in their arguments then I will happily discuss things with anyone.

    There is no crusade of optimism driving people out and you know it, so quit it with that nonsense.

    If you would be so kind to give examples of such activity I would retract every last word.

  • 164 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:55 PM

    Solano….Abuse get’s thrown around on here and it is aimed at all people, whatever their opinions. I have had some as have you.

    Why did the goo contributors feel they had to leave? People can debate (or pick on if that is your viewpoint) my comments as much as I can theirs. Where is the problem? Are we getting back to bullying or is it just the positivity of some is just too repulsive to bother?

  • 165 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:56 PM

    Goo should obviously read good :)

  • 166 MacToon // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:57 PM

    “Many good contributors have left and what used to be a broad spectrum of opinion has narrowed considerably. Consequently,the relevance of what passes for the “majority” view on here is diminished.”

    Well said solano.

  • 167 solano // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:57 PM

    OV wasn’t an ill judged “crusade of optimism” that claimed victims?
    Really? It was a clique. Exclusive and abusive.

  • 168 jesperfuglsang // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:57 PM

    Okay, Raghu Dixit is not easy to come by, but it found 3 or 4 tracks so that’s in the back on ready on my Sonos ;)
    Michael K something :) was easier to come by and I can see I have heard “I am getting ready” before…
    Mr. Black Keys Auerbach was easy as well, so I add a few track from him as well :)

    There will be no Foo I am afraid ;)

    Ibiza…my first impression, Raghu Dixit is some strange music mate ;) lol

  • 169 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:57 PM

    Had an image of big blobs of goo sitting behind their keyboards angry at the recent positivity that’s been on the blog and have resorted to leaving the blog!

    Bring back the Goo Posters!!!

  • 170 Ashton // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:57 PM

    Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    “Here’s a stick, go ahead and take the wrong end by all means.As Duncan Bannatyne would say, “I’m Ooot!””

    A typical elitist idiot. They get all defensive at the beginning about things they don’t understand and when countered with logic they use the classical “agree to disagree” line or one of it many variations.

  • 171 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:57 PM

    Yes’ I do think the back four might need a little extra steel in front of it against Everton, mainly because of Fellaini, who I notice has all of a sudden become extremely good. I’m hoping Tiote kicks seven colors of shit out of him and gets away with it.

  • 172 MacToon // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:58 PM

    Only came on to congratulate tads, hope mother and daughter are both doing well mate.

  • 173 FatmanJoe // Sep 12, 2012 at 7:58 PM

    It’s really quiet on here tonight.

    Have all the neggers and trolls finally been bullied off the blog?
    ;-)

  • 174 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 12, 2012 at 8:01 PM

    On a non toon or music related topic what a huge relief it must finally be to the families and friends of all those supporters who lost thier lives so tragically in the hillsborough disaster to finally after 23 years have some closure and can clear the loved ones names as the “instigators” of the event,
    And what a complete and utter embarrassment are emergency services and goverment were back then hopefully a dark time that shall never be repeated

  • 175 jesperfuglsang // Sep 12, 2012 at 8:01 PM

    TADS…I found The Rifles’ album Freedom Run, but I cannot access the songs :(

    …I’ll try again some other time.

    What can you recommend form the album?

  • 176 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 8:02 PM

    Ashton why are you trying to inflame a situation that didn’t exist to begin with? I offered 2 sides of what I perceived your original comment to be, you took exception to the fact that I claimed that you didn’t have carte blanch right to criticise Ed’s work to which you called me an elitist, a phrase that you are sticking to like a dog with a bone.

    You do realise that you have insulted me in every single post, and I have not insulted you at all, save for the “now whose logic is retarded” comment. I am not agreeing to disagree, I am stating out right that you have took the completely wrong end of this discussion and I am now refusing to engage with you.

  • 177 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 12, 2012 at 8:04 PM

    Mactoon
    Thanks buddy, yeah both are healthy and happy

  • 178 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 8:04 PM

    Solano

    You’re wrong, plain and simple. Give me an example of someone who was abused? I had a few run ins with Indian Magpie as he was abusing Simmo and especially Shola. That wasn’t an OV thing, that was me taking exception to how ridiculous Indian was being and shooting him down. There was no bullying, it may come as a surprise but there is no actual OV club, I couldn’t tell you who the OV people are, except for me and Ibiza and nufc786 who were around at the time we were talking about it so I think you are talking the proverbial horseshite.

  • 179 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 8:05 PM

    I think you give us too much credit Solano. I can kind of see where you’re coming from, as I have been on the blog and surrounded by what I perceived a wave of negativity, which is not my stance on things. Would this be a clique? It didn’t however make me want to leave the blog and that’s why I struggle with the bully claims.

    Ashton…He doesn’t really have anywhere to go, does he? If he continues the debate he’s labelled a bully – what do you suggest?

  • 180 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 12, 2012 at 8:05 PM

    Well, I’m glad that’s all sorted out.

  • 181 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 12, 2012 at 8:08 PM

    Jesper
    To be honest freedom run is there newest album and is not there best work but if you can find the album the album the great escape i highly recommend it

  • 182 MacToon // Sep 12, 2012 at 8:08 PM

    tads, good to hear and I read your daughter’s sleeping well, well lucky you ;-) I agree with you at 174 too.

  • 183 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 8:09 PM

    Tads @74…Hopefully they can finally get some closure. Disgusting state of affairs.

  • 184 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 12, 2012 at 8:10 PM

    Mactoon
    Yeah weve been lucky like that my little boy always slept all night too!

  • 185 Ashton // Sep 12, 2012 at 8:10 PM

    Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    Things just fly over your head don’t they? I have explained my point more than once and most people here seem to understand it except for you, which is funny in a way because I’ve been trying very hard just to make you understand but I’m having a hard time with that because you just don’t get it!

  • 186 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 8:13 PM

    Final point on it.

    It is laughable that you think I don’t understand your point, as sophisticated as you think you are I get it. I just happen to disagree with you, there is a considerable difference.

    Just because you claim the way I talked to you was elitist doesn’t actually make it so. Classic case of putting opinions in the guise of facts. You believe everything you say is true don’t you? And that your perception is the only perception?

    Thought so.

  • 187 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 8:15 PM

    Should I stay or should I go now?
    Should I stay or should I go now?
    If I go there will be trouble
    An if I stay it will be double
    So come on and let me know

    Hmmm…I’ll go. Bye for now everyone

  • 188 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 8:16 PM

    See ya later Ibiza, think I may get out of this mad house too.

  • 189 solano // Sep 12, 2012 at 8:19 PM

    Ibiza..if the “us” refers to OV and not the “love in ” I still want to know how it wasn’t exclusive and cliquish and not a “crusade of optimism” that poured ridicule on those who chose not to join.
    There are also longstanding matters (before the time you got sick of the beach and came on here to say hello)which has made myself and others become critical of the way things are run at the club.

  • 190 AmericanGeordie // Sep 12, 2012 at 8:25 PM

    Ed says, “it may be hard for Anita to start in the middle because of Tiote & Cabaye.” Then there is much talk on the board about who will play RB, and where Jonas will play.

    Contrary to Ed’s observation, it is crystal clear to me that our best lineup would include all 3 in the midfield with Tiote and Anita holding and Cabaye in a more advanced role.

    Additionally, Jonas would drop into LB with Santon moving over to RB.

    Of course (as mentioned countless times on this board) we should field this line up in a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 formation.

    Our best team IMO:
    Krul
    Santon-Colo-Saylor-Jonas
    Tiotoe-Anita
    HBA-Cabaye-Ba(or Marvo)
    Cisse(or Ba)

  • 191 Ashton // Sep 12, 2012 at 8:28 PM

    I can’t believe one could write such a pile of a rambling-random-incoherent phrases in one post. It makes no sense.

    “Just because you claim the way I talked to you was elitist doesn’t actually make it so”

    I didn’t tell someone else to do what I think is right even though I didn’t understand his point. You did. I won’t repeat this point because it’s frustrating. It’s like talking to a tree. No actually it’s worse! because I can feel my IQ points dropping just by having a conversation with you.

  • 192 beefman13 // Sep 12, 2012 at 8:28 PM

    TDS, late reply, oops, jonas is used by us when we are in the trenches away from home especially, won us more free kicks probably than nearly all our other players put together, hes won hundreds for the toon and sometimes you do get a bit of restbite with that.

    Im pretty sure he will play v everton in fact 99 per cent, marveaux will be great to come on i would like to see him get 25/30 mins we could really stretch them on the break, i think he would link up quick and sharp with benny and cabaye. but as you say jonas will start.

  • 193 beefman13 // Sep 12, 2012 at 8:31 PM

    ashton, do you go on teamtalk?

  • 194 ppb // Sep 12, 2012 at 8:32 PM

    @jesp lemon ignore the rifles and download hell is for heros’ the neon handshake. excellence.
    over was not a clique just a group who got tired of the needless pessimism after we lost a few games.
    pessimism such as calling simmo and perch the worst defenders in the league.
    the “bullying” and “ganging up” was reactionary comments from people of a similar viewpoint when somebody would make an unqualified statement like “Simpson is shit” or if somebody attacked our optimistic viewpoint.

  • 195 ppb // Sep 12, 2012 at 8:34 PM

    *ov not over.
    oh we were also a geeky and tongue in cheek organization invented to raise morale

  • 196 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 8:35 PM

    Grown ups don’t insult each other every turn round.

    What is wrong with you? You are not talking to a tree, in fact I fear it is you who doesn’t comprehend a single word I am saying to you, and yet you resort to implying that I am stupid. I am certainly not stupid, I get what you’re saying do you understand a single thing I am saying though?

    You have perceived that I was being elitist, and we all know your reasoning. Have you considered that your reasoning may be flawed?

    You do know that I didn’t say that you shouldn’t voice your opinions, I was merely criticising the opinion you had.

    Also, you claimed you weren’t criticising Ed’s work, to which I stated that if you weren’t criticising his work that I then understood why you may have been frustrated at the lack of news.

    And I am supposed to be the tree? My word, you’re an exhausting child you must keep your parents up at night. Getting you to bed must be a chore.

  • 197 solano // Sep 12, 2012 at 8:38 PM

    Ruddy…if it’s any consolation, I’m a “tree hugger” ;-)

  • 198 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 12, 2012 at 8:39 PM

    Ppb
    Ignore the rifles? Hey fcuk you man! ;) hell is for heros havent heard of them i’ll have to give them a listen!
    And your right ppl are labelling ppl like ruddy/ibiza as a clique and bullies but skim over the ppl who say stuff like simmos sh1t willo cost us champions league and is the worst defender in the league, and then you get ppl who call others ashley lovers puppets etc, theres always 2 sides to an arguement!

  • 199 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 8:39 PM

    Solano

    As much as we nit pick and disagree I do think you’re good value :) haha

  • 200 ppb // Sep 12, 2012 at 8:39 PM

    also ov was not exclusive we actually said anyone can join lol. we never abused anybody simply for having different views, merely pointed out why we thought those views wrong. if any abuse was given by us it was in response to abuse we received though i hope we never stooped so low.
    anyway, on topic, who thinks anita will be fb (rb i think) and who thinks he’ll stay midfield?

  • 201 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 12, 2012 at 8:41 PM

    PPB

    I think it is nearly a certainty that he will start RB against Everton, but when we are able to do so, will introduce him in midfield as part of a CM 3 with Tiote and Cabaye :D

    Thanks for the back up by the way ;)

  • 202 beefman13 // Sep 12, 2012 at 8:46 PM

    ppb, if i were AP, i would do everything i could to get Anita with cabaye and tiote in that middle triangle.

    if they can get a run of 3/4 games together it could be one of the best triangles in the prem without doubt (dairylea! rich creamy and smooth) i am hoping above hope it will happen.

  • 203 ppb // Sep 12, 2012 at 8:49 PM

    @tads the rifles are ok really lol just not my cup of tea. hifh are different. you may hate the vocals.
    @solano for what its worth i think you are a decent blogger and appreciate your opinion on all things nufc
    @ruddy i think anita will be rb vs everton (as much as people want santon rb) as he’s right footed anyway (isn’t he).
    but i really wanna see a middle three of anita tiote and cabaye in front of them

  • 204 beefman13 // Sep 12, 2012 at 8:52 PM

    American Geordie, i see that as a decent line up under the circumstances, it may be a way of fitting jonas in and i think he would do ok, santon has said he likes to play on the right and i would like to see him there linking with benny, for benny to cut inside with those mazy runs and santon getting down the line to put crosses in with his right.

    I think santon would benefit from being over on the right

  • 205 Ashton // Sep 12, 2012 at 8:52 PM

    “Grown ups don’t insult each other….” many idiotic thoughts and contradictions later “…..you’re an exhausting child you must keep your parents up at night. Getting you to bed must be a chore.”

    “I was merely criticising the opinion you had.”

    Telling me to create my own blog and go there to express my opinion is not criticizing. It’s being an elitist twat.

  • 206 ppb // Sep 12, 2012 at 8:53 PM

    @beefman totally agree.
    anita tiote
    —-cabs
    while not necessarily the best three midfielders in the prem (dare i say it)
    is formidable. i believe that can only be bested by
    —-toure
    silva–nasri
    but that’s a very different menage à trois

  • 207 beefman13 // Sep 12, 2012 at 8:54 PM

    Ashton ,it is sounding like your on the sauce!! its starting to get a bit aggresive.

  • 208 beefman13 // Sep 12, 2012 at 8:58 PM

    ppb ,toure, silva ,and nasri,, fair point quite formidible, cost about not sure but would say 75 million? wor three about 15 million. Not a million miles of them if they get a run together in the team.

  • 209 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 12, 2012 at 9:00 PM

    Ashton
    Reverting to insults and calling ppl tw@s it a sign that the fight is slipping from you

    Ppb
    Just had a look on itunes and instantly recognised 2-3 tracks off the preview think its from my brother in law! To be honest i like most music except what you would call your chart stuff

  • 210 ppb // Sep 12, 2012 at 9:02 PM

    ah Ashton the selective quotes.

    btw the create your own blog comment seems to have stemmed from the fact he thought you were criticizing the bloke who created the blog you are on. which, while he is telling you to not express that opinion, is more a case of telling you to respect the guy who creates these articles rather than “piss off i don’t like your opinion”.
    i do see

  • 211 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 9:07 PM

    Solano…How can we pour ridicule on someone?

    “Ha ha, he he, you’re negative and we’re optimistic”?

    As Hovis has pointed out (hoping my memory has served me well there), belittling people wasn’t the aim. The whole thing started as a joke in order to gain some balance as the negativity was unreal on here…especially considering, in our view, things were looking up and improvements were being made.

    I started posting after a short while of reading the blog as I found the articles to be interesting and enjoyed the banter from most of the posters. I am aware things weren’t too rosy prior to that and also understand people’s reluctance to trust Ashley and co. I do however feel, that turned in to hatred and has blinded some to any positives going on at the club. You rarely see people who generally view things negatively talk about any positives. Why is that? Is there absolutely no good? It just seems that people are stuck and not able to move on. My interpretation of course.

    I’ll touch on cliques again, if you wish. How are people who agreed with the whole ov thing a clique, but those who agree on a negative aspect of the club not one? We get accused of back slapping and even c*ck s*ck*ng, but when you agree, it’s just normal. Double standards comes to mind.

    As most have pointed out, you’re obviously a smart man and do contribute to the blog and I have no issues with you. I’m sorry that you feel we have behaved so badly and even feel we have run people off the blog. I still don’t get it, probably blinded by the balanced accounts and can’t see the real issues that currently pollute our club.

  • 212 ppb // Sep 12, 2012 at 9:13 PM

    @beefman yeah our three are good and if anita proves himself i believe we are close(ish) to their three. nasri is the weak link there. toure is a total beast. silva is sheer class.
    @tads i love all sorts from heaviest of heavy (gojira, lamb of god) to experimental and progressive electro (portishead, flying lotus) i like a little chart stuff (very little).
    i think the pop music today is as weak as it has ever been. for instance, the latest number 1 single from “x female singer” could be anyone as Cheryl Cole, Katy Perry et al all sound almost the same.
    lets be honest, in 20 years time if you played some of the current pop tunes you’d struggle to name the artist from a list of 5,6 or more.
    i also find the terms girl band and boy band offensive as for me a band play instruments. not just sing the words somebody else wrote, the way they’re told to against a backing track created by somebody else

  • 213 FatmanJoe // Sep 12, 2012 at 9:15 PM

    Ibiza and ruddy

    Seems like every time I come on here you seem to be justifying your views to others. I can’t think of two other bloggers who have so much hassle on here.

    Just an observation. Find it very strange that people feel the need to do that.

  • 214 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 9:15 PM

    ppb….What are you saying about wor Cheryl? :)

  • 215 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 9:18 PM

    Fatman…Strange that we feel the need to justify or that people feel the need to hassle us in the first place?

    It seems we have upset many people over the past 12 months or so

  • 216 ppb // Sep 12, 2012 at 9:18 PM

    @ibiza your last bit of “biting sarcasm” about the issues a polluting our club doesn’t really make your view seem objective. it seems like your making fun of solano rather than simply being yourself (all of this is from a neutral point of view, i understand you)

  • 217 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 12, 2012 at 9:21 PM

    Ppb
    Aye if you look at the charts its impossible to know or care tbh who anyone is it seems all to easy to be a celebrity these days especially with that abomination the x factor pumping out an endless line of drull pop clones who just poorly imitate whos popular at the time of airing its painful to be fair!

  • 218 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 9:22 PM

    ppb….Yeah, that sarcasm has a nasty way of creeping out even when I’m trying to find middle ground. I honestly find the whole thing baffling.

    The last comment comes from the idea that as we’re optimists we can’t really see what’s going on (as has been said). We’re apparently being made fools of by Ashley and co and our day or reckoning will come (not quoting Solano – so perhaps unfair to bring up – Apologies Solano).

    Good job on balancing things out mate ;)

  • 219 FatmanJoe // Sep 12, 2012 at 9:22 PM

    Strange that people feel the need to attack. If memory serves me correctly there were many of us who were advocates of OV and tried to be positive about NuFC but only two are regularly picked out.

  • 220 beefman13 // Sep 12, 2012 at 9:26 PM

    Lads, if i thought we were as a club being less than positive i would say so.
    a ton of bricks fell cos we did not get debuchy in.

    we finally offered what they originally wanted but they then asked for 2 million more.

    MA wont get done over like that, this fella knows a thing or two about doing a deal, he started with one shop!

    I have always felt he would protect his investment and would fight for it, which in my opinion he has done.

    A plan is in place we are movving forward, he will build any thing he is involved in i have no fear in that and that includes NUFC.

    And in the end when he goes i would reckon 3/4 years time he will get all his bit back a bit more on top imo, but whoever buys us will have a big healthy very strong premiership team with a fantastic stadia and facilities!

    I only say this beacuse as a business he will be open to offers when we keep going forward imo and look very tasty to prospective buyers, derek lambias stated last year everything has its price including NUFC and that has always stuck with me what he said.

  • 221 ppb // Sep 12, 2012 at 9:26 PM

    @fatman i was an ov mainstay (coined the term in fact) but im not attacked like the other 2. its funny how we constantly justify our upbeat opinion yet a lot of the pessimists (and whingers) are merely left to say what they like by most.

  • 222 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 9:28 PM

    Fatman….Perhaps we bite too easily and it’s good entertainment. Maybe we are in fact clueless to the impact our posts in particular have on other posters. It seems it’s a matter of opinion as neutrals view it differently also. All I can say is I don’t come on here to give anyone a hard time, honestly. I come on here to enjoy chatting about the club we clearly all adore, I comment on things I agree with and don’t. Obviously I’ll be critical of those that I don’t agree with, it comes with the territory of disagreeing on something. I like to think I’m respectful, I do at least try.

    Anyway, here I am trying to justify myself again, not sure why I am bothered by peoples opinions on the matter

  • 223 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 12, 2012 at 9:30 PM

    Well, as much as I want Anita to be a great success, he’s only just arrived so I think he still has it all to do it on the pitch.

    That midfield diamond formation certainly looks like it could be quite something.

    I also think that Guti in that 3 and Anita at fullback also looks good.

    And the 442 we have with Anita at fullback also would you’d think gets our best 11 on the pitch at the same time. I don’t think Pardew is ready to abandon it and I tend to think he shouldn’t after so few games.

  • 224 FatmanJoe // Sep 12, 2012 at 9:32 PM

    Yea I agree, can’t see how Anita is our best fb after playing there 3/4 of a game. Still think we could do a lot worse than simmo tbh.

  • 225 ppb // Sep 12, 2012 at 9:32 PM

    @ibiza im like your voice of reason. your social barometer if you will.
    and i know what you mean about us being accused of selective blindness.

  • 226 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 9:32 PM

    ppb….Maybe that’s it. Just don’t comment on the points we don’t agree with? Although it doesn’t feel like that’s the idea or spirit of the blog.

    For everyone else…ppb is feeling left out. Please can you pick him up occasionally :)

  • 227 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 9:34 PM

    ppb…So you’re that voice that I constantly ignore in my head – my deepest apologies, I just thought I was losing the plot

  • 228 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 12, 2012 at 9:35 PM

    Ibiza
    Pack it in your an out and out bully!!!;)
    But for some reason you do seem to be coming in for a lot of stick which in all honesty is unjustified! Not saying its you btw solano i always find you balance your opinion really well and dont attack ppl so to speak, i do agree with your point earlier aswell in regards to the amount of posters on here these days and it is a shame the big thing i have noticed and it may just be me, but there never really used to be arguements on here as such just disagreements and a great bit if banter but now it just seems to be flat out personal attacks on ppl

  • 229 beefman13 // Sep 12, 2012 at 9:36 PM

    Ibiza, i get it big time by the gloomsters on teamtalk 5/6 of them but its a bugga cos you have to wait for ever for your threads to appear.

    At least on here we can get things off our chests, i would love to go 12 rounds with i have mentioned! keyboard warrioring of course.

    This blog is great cos we can get things resolved, On teamtalk you go to bed spitting nails. best on here i think.

  • 230 ppb // Sep 12, 2012 at 9:37 PM

    @fatman i totally disagree with the result of the rb poll. anita won? simmo is clearly our best rb until anita keeps up that form in that position for at least 5-10 games (bearing in mind he’s likely gonna be a first team cdm)

  • 231 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 9:41 PM

    tads…back to the naughty chair? You’d think I’d learn by now.

    I post a hell of a lot and I guess that leaves me vulnerable for abuse – Not sure if there is logic in that, but it’s the best I can come up with. I like to think If someone provides a valid point people can respect that and in some instances even change their own opinion on an issue – that is how the real world works or has the sun damaged by brain?

  • 232 beefman13 // Sep 12, 2012 at 9:43 PM

    I think beacuse we are all passionate about the toon and we all like to think our views are the right ones when someone challenges us in an unsavoury way its only normal human nature to have a go back.

    Its a forum it can get heated to say the least, we get things of our chests, occasionally we want to close the show outside the strawberry, at least i would like to sometimes with certain posters but we have to give and take in life so no need for that sort of aggresiveness!

  • 233 ppb // Sep 12, 2012 at 9:44 PM

    @ibiza im not on here enough recently to warrant any abuse tbf
    @beefman doom and gloom is my pet peeve. people going on about how poor we look and how we’re gonna finish mid table, three games in! lets put that into perspective, that’s less than a twelfth of the season and having played two teams aiming for top 5

  • 234 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 9:44 PM

    Beefman…Amazingly, I don’t really do blogs :) This is the one and only. I have recently come under criticism that I need to get a life outside of the blog – something I would no doubt have agreed with a year or two ago. Difference is I do have one and don’t just live in the virtual world. This blog has made me re-evaluate how I feel about the internet…it’s not all rubbish after all.

  • 235 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 12, 2012 at 9:46 PM

    Simmo is fine, a couple of seasons ago I thought he was pants, couldn’t figure out how close down his man, either too close or too far away and would get roasted quite often it seemed to me, but he is much improved.

    I think if you look at the side it has real quality and Simmo isn’t quite there. I don’t think he’d get near the 1st team at the leading clubs and that’s where we are aiming to be.

  • 236 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 12, 2012 at 9:48 PM

    Ibiza
    I dont think the frequency to which someone posts should have any influence on the validity of an opinion you post alot and get abuse some times you see some one who posts very rarely get shot down because they dont post often enough! Personally some ppl come on here with the pure intention of starting a barny ok we shouldnt bite but are there lives that fcuking boring and empty thats all they can do for a laugh?

  • 237 ppb // Sep 12, 2012 at 9:48 PM

    @beefman if anybody wants to finish an argument with me outside the strawberry can you tell them im a 6ft 11 body builder and mma fighter.
    that might be more intimidating than saying im actually 5ft 9 overweight, have a love of comic books and am currently playing grant turismo 5. and posting on a blog. lol

  • 238 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 9:49 PM

    ppb….Why didn’t I think of that? Stop coming on so much :)

    Right, I think we have thrashed this one to death…yet again. The people with the problem have gone anyway, so it’s not like anything is being resolved.

    Solano…We all support the toon and clearly view things differently. If I have crossed lines or if people think I have then i genuinely apologies it was never my intention (incidentally, nor do I think it is or was the intention of any of the other “ov clique”, but perhaps it’s time to move on now and try enjoy the season ahead.

    Night everyone, sweet dreams of 3 points on Monday…not that we have a chance with Ashley in charge

    “Get down sarcasm, I’ve warned you, don’t make me get my belt out”

  • 239 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 12, 2012 at 9:51 PM

    tads…I guess they are, shame for them.

    Peace x

  • 240 ppb // Sep 12, 2012 at 9:52 PM

    @jaw. you are completely right there. he’s not the quality we need to be a top team but nowhere near totally shite

  • 241 ppb // Sep 12, 2012 at 9:55 PM

    @tads gotta say you are one of the reasonable guys on here. you see both sides of arguments. you try to reason.
    id like to think im the same. hence how i posted to solano and ibiza

  • 242 beefman13 // Sep 12, 2012 at 9:58 PM

    Ibiza, i only do the two blogs i have mentioned, for the love of god just stick to this one.
    I personally think you try to be quite reasoned, and have a bit of a laugh as well, obviously ruddy seems like he gets in to wars on here all the time but he sticks up for himself every night i think he gets a bit of a buzz if he gets caught up in a war!

    Im not sure you are that comfortable being in the trenches, even though you handle yourself well.

    I think you like the banter, but not if it starts to get abusive which i do understand. ruddy is a bit of an arthur scargill were you are a bit of a tony benn. a more understanding mediator you im sure.

    Im in your corners on most toon stuff beacuse i think we are doing fine and progressing.

  • 243 ppb // Sep 12, 2012 at 9:58 PM

    so ibiza and ruddy are gone for the night.
    thank god. those bloody optimistic trouble makers are making my blog life hard. fancy sticking up.for a justifiable opinion with reasoning. bah its pathetic ;)

  • 244 ppb // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:01 PM

    @beefman you have the roles all wrong. ov is a Nazi organization. ruddy is Hitler ibiza is himmler and im goerring lol

  • 245 beefman13 // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:03 PM

    ppb, ibiza says goodnight about three times every night he just goes in to a dark room he has and belts the fcuk out of the padded walls ha ha.

  • 246 MagpiesFlyHigh // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:03 PM

    I have rarely seen such spite and hatred shown to certain of our players as the pure vitriol, dressed up as rational opinion that Ketsbaia 9 spouts.

    To suggest that it is Willo and Simmo’s fault we didn’t make more signings in the summer is the badge of a delusional sociopath. Get off the blog Kets …..you are so full of hatred and you never stop slagging off your hates in any way you can…. just disappear onto your bile filled pit of loathing.

    Kets…. you are poison

  • 247 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:05 PM

    Ppb
    Think there would be a fair few on here who would disagree like!

    But in all fairness i think that most the “regular” posters on here are normally pretty well balanced whether they have been on here for a few years or a few months then there are those that only seem to cone after a poor game and just wanna slate anything and everything about the club, as beefman said theres no doubt were all passionate fans but there seems to be a fine line on here sometimes between passion and trolling!
    I really cant stand ppl who come on though and just say stuff like “oh wilo is shit” but then cant really justify or back up why they feel the needs to continually slate our players, does my nut that!

  • 248 ppb // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:06 PM

    @beefman i think he actually keeps a make in his basement for that purpose lol.
    @mfh ketsbaia is utterly ridiculous and really doesn’t deserve your wasted energy

  • 249 beefman13 // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:08 PM

    ppb, scargill always reminded me of hitler anyways!!

    Ibiza is no Nazi he is to kind hearted.ah bless!

    You could have been the nazi architect who got off, forgot his name now, he was in the thick of it but slid out by the back door and walked away scot free!

  • 250 BelfastMagpie // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:08 PM

    Ketsbia is defo posting from the looney bin with a haniball lecter mask on. Haha

  • 251 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:08 PM

    MFH
    So not a big kets fan then? Guess you to wont be swapping panini stickers anytime soon!;)

  • 252 ppb // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:09 PM

    @tads those guys get my goat. say nowt while we win then come out of the woodwork after a loss or poor draw.

  • 253 Big Pappa Cissé // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:12 PM

    Strange. I always though Ketsbia posted from Mars myself like :)

  • 254 TimKrulFan // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:13 PM

    Anybody else think HBA should CAM role because so far this season Cabaye has been dreadful.

  • 255 ppb // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:13 PM

    @beefman Albert speer? those are actually my middle names!
    @belfast whoever said they read kets posts in the voice of zed from the police academy films is a genius

  • 256 ppb // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:15 PM

    @bpc is he the martian that purpose captures bugs bunny?

  • 257 BelfastMagpie // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:15 PM

    Bradley Orr has been Ketsbias greatest transfer suggestion in my opinion. ;-)

  • 258 beefman13 // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:15 PM

    Timkrul, cabaye only got 20 mins pre season, he isnt the sort of player to hit the ground running to be fair, not while he has been at the toon, once he gets reved up he will be fine, just hope its the next game v everton were he starts.

  • 259 ppb // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:15 PM

    remove purpose from my last post

  • 260 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:16 PM

    Ppb
    *blushes* yeah that was me was actually watching police academy at the time n found myself reading his posts in zed voice! I imagine he looks pretty similar too!

  • 261 MagpiesFlyHigh // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:16 PM

    TADS

    No wonder the guy got banned from that other blog. He seems to post mostly because he hates certain of our players.

    He has the football knowledge of a Panini warrior.
    I also could not stand the Shola bashing of Indian btw and had a go at him too.

  • 262 beefman13 // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:16 PM

    ppb good call on the nazi!

  • 263 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:17 PM

    Belfast
    Better than scharner?

  • 264 MagpiesFlyHigh // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:18 PM

    Anyway back to football… anyone know how Cabs performed for France ?

  • 265 ppb // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:19 PM

    @beef im actually more josef mengele. evil behind closed doors bwahaha.
    (disclaimer: i am in no way a Nazi or in agreement with national socialist views. and mengele was an.evil sick bastard)

  • 266 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:19 PM

    MFH
    Unfortunatly its true he offers absolutly no insight to why he thinks are players are so poor just spouts out one liners simmo is shit wilo cost us CL but offers no reason as to why

  • 267 BelfastMagpie // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:19 PM

    I think Ketsbia probably took acid years ago,and never came down.lol

  • 268 ppb // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:21 PM

    @tads now thats mean.
    @mfh I’ve no idea. i tend to ignore international breaks aside from any injury news

  • 269 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:21 PM

    MFH
    I think ian toon was saying earlier he watched and by all accounts he had a great game so hopefully hes started to get back to match fit and his forms picking up now

  • 270 ppb // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:24 PM

    kets also neglects to acknowledge that willows and simmo were a big part of us achieving 5th in the first place

  • 271 MagpiesFlyHigh // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:25 PM

    We need Cabs on form for the Toffees. Our fans are too quick to slag off the occasional underperformance… I’m more concerned with how good a player is a over 200 games not 1 or 2.. I still think he had a lingering virus which took 10-20% off his game

  • 272 beefman13 // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:25 PM

    ppb i didnt think you were a nazi, that said if adolf had ov got to work on you in the late 30`s you prob would have been one ha ha

    ruddy, would have been that henchman in auschwitz ha ha
    of course as it is you are both upstanding members of the forum community!

  • 273 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:25 PM

    Speaking of internationals did anyone else watch that shower last night and think jesus if england were in the PL they’d be getting relegated? No one looked intrested no one the pitch, no one on the bench, no one in the management in fact the only person showing some grit and passion was gary neville! (btw next to kammy and steling he has to be the best commentator nowdays)

  • 274 BelfastMagpie // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:26 PM

    Defo better than Scharner.haha

    He banged on about Scharner for ages.
    He just randomly came out with Bradley orr for some reason.lol

    I think he’s wrote down every right back he could think off,then closed his eyes,and his finger was on Bradley Orr’s name,when he opened his eyes again. ;-)

  • 275 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:30 PM

    Belfast
    For me the best one was when he wanted to do a cash plus player(simmo!) for phil fcuking bardsley!

  • 276 beefman13 // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:31 PM

    TDS, its all about the premiership now for me, thats what rocks their boat, they have no passion in their eyes at international level their a bit like a shark in that respect. i used to be glued to every england game, not now though.

    the less i have to look at lamppard gerrard cole rooney milner the better.

    All my energies are at the toon, football wise i dont give a monkeys about anything else or any other team to be honest!

  • 277 Munster Mag // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:31 PM

    Ibiza and Ruddy, if you think that my wanting NUFC to push on and spend reasonable money ( my thinking was around 12 mill ) on two good players like Debuchy, warrants me being a “negger” , then I’m afraid I’m losing all respect for your side of the argument. I really dont see how a club like Newcastle, that is financially sound in comparison to so many others, cannot show a tad more ambition to back up the good showing we had last year. The real issue is, if a player like Debuchy is off contract and costs 2 mill less, then we will be “in like Flynn” . But our buying policy is far too guided by discount value, as opposed to sometimes having to pay fair money for a proper player, who is contracted. The long and the short of it is – we were not prepared to spend approx 12 mill on two good defenders. I find that disappointing ( and if you think Pardew is loving it, you’re mad ) – if that makes me a negative fan then I give up. Ibiza, I think we have agreed in principal before – I’m looking for reasonable and reason investment. 12 mill on two first teamers is not mental spending……Finally, my issue with the happies ( and aplogies if i offend ) , is that its not possible to express annoyance with your heroic owner without being called negative. 12 mill Mike, and we’d have Colo covered, and full backs covered too…..it makes sense, and bankrupts no-one….

  • 278 solano // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:32 PM

    ppb, Ibiza …Thanks for taking the time for explaining things from your perspective. I appreciate it.
    OV and all that jazz was hardly the greatest issue this blog has dealt with and I take the point it was done with the best of intentions. IMO it maybe just morphed into (or at least was perceived by some) something which appeared cliquey. Of course, it is in the past and maybe the transfer window has tempered overly optimistic viewpoints for this season, just a little?
    For the record, I think a bit self-justification is a good thing now and again! I have been asked to justify my standpoints many times on different subjects…and I think a bit analysis leads to greater empathy/understanding.
    We are all guilty – some more than others – of pigeon holing posters.
    What I have found incredibly frustrating however is the propensity for certain posters to misquote me or to ignore the positive support I have given towards Pardew and the team’s efforts last season. I try not to get drawn too much on opinions re:players or formations simply because it is a minefield and relatively pointless.
    This reluctance to post on certain subject matters may lead to people thinking I just want to post negatively on regime related subjects in order to exact some kind of perverse pleasure…well, it’s not true ;-)
    What I do find though, is that on an awful lot of NUFC topics, the regime has the power to directly influence the outcome…and in my experience their contribution is overwhelmingly to the detriment of the club and its progress. Some topics have yet to play out… yes, there are grey areas….but living and working in the city of Newcastle, I get the sense that the most loyal and trusting of this country’s folk no longer trust or have confidence in men who are solely governed by avarice and the pursuit of money.

  • 279 ppb // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:33 PM

    @beefman why thankyou you aren’t too bad yerself. what you doing Saturday night? ha ha
    @tads we were talking about the England team at work today and pointed something crucial out. the England team consists of 29+ year olds and 17-22 year olds with very few in the middle (who have much international experience). at the age you would say is most players peak years. wtf happened to that generation?

  • 280 beefman13 // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:34 PM

    Belfast i personally think ketsbia was on the wind up about bradley orr.

    He couldnt have been serious could he!!! omg

  • 281 beefman13 // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:39 PM

    ppb, i will be outside the strawberry at 11 bells ready for an oncore after i closed the show ha ha

  • 282 ppb // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:41 PM

    wow two essays in a row.
    @munster and solano. loving the well worded arguments and can completely understand both of your views.
    i can see you are passionate fans.
    munster while cannot completely agree with you i do appreciate where you’re coming from but we know mike is just a stickler for his own financial rules (especially either lille shifting the posts) i think some of us, while not necessarily in love with that idea, have learned to accept the sound financial motive behind it and ti try to trust what little backup we have

  • 283 beefman13 // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:41 PM

    ppb. unless your name is pauline penelope dont go there ha ha!

  • 284 MagpiesFlyHigh // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:41 PM

    Munster

    Agree… not ‘negger’ comments but a reasonable analysis.

  • 285 Munster Mag // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:42 PM

    Solano, whats OV etc?

  • 286 Big Pappa Cissé // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:43 PM

    I just don’t get some footballers theses days (especially England internationals). They are in a profession that has a very limited life cycle in a sport they supposedly love and get payed millions for. Yet they would rather get speeding bans every other week, drink, party, cheat on their wives multiple times and just generally act like idiots. I am not saying every Premier League player is like this but there seems to be quite a lot.

  • 287 ppb // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:43 PM

    @beefman its actually priscilla penny Burton

  • 288 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:46 PM

    Solano
    Like i said earlier your a very sensible poster with well balanced views that post shows it, gets your point across with out the need to insult who your having the arguement with fair play to you

    Ppb
    Thats a good point never thought of that! Think in all honesty its a shame to the intenational scouts for england dont atleast look in the championship, or outside the top four for that matter, because most the english players in the top of the PL are overrated and cone with unbelievable egos!
    In fact i read an interview with hodgson, who ive always rated, saying he would never take crouch again unless he was in the starting 11 due to crouch making himself unavailable as someone to bulk up numbers, at first i thought fair enough, then i read on about hiw crouch snubbed an approach for him when hodgson was at fulham and thas just his character and then i just thought absolutly pathetic!

    Beefman
    Its true i do seem to also be loosing my passion for international football mainly because of the idiots we have in our team, prime example, ashley young what an embarresment

  • 289 ppb // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:47 PM

    @munster ov was “optimism valley” basically a group that shared the same optimistic viewpoint pushing against the ridiculous negativity around xmas time last year (even considering where we were in the league at that point). it was/is a bit geeky but served its purpose. now people tend to throw it in our faces when we disagree with them

  • 290 solano // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:48 PM

    Munster…you know the Optimists Valley? Remember? Beattie was in there too, before totally expected developments made him see the light/dark and move into self-imposed exile. Bizarre and quite funny in a way.
    Maybe it’s time for Johnny Cash and the Tennessee Three with “There’ll be Peace in the Valley” ?

  • 291 beefman13 // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:51 PM

    Munster i do get were you are coming from concerning debuchy and a n other, but MA has a way of business and i dont think he will deviate from it, it has served him well, i still feel we may get debuchy.

    Just a thought about cover williamson done 30 games as cover last seson at centre half, he gave 100 per cent we finished fifth in the league, what about if the club actually has faith in this kid for a while yet I think he deserves another shot at it a bit like danny simpson who may not be my fav players but you have to admit they give everything for us. the club like them and they are unsung heroes but still part of a very succsesful team last season. just maybe there is faith there and if their is its not a bad thing.

  • 292 ppb // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:51 PM

    @tads funny you mention ash young, one of the “lost generation” i referred to age wise. proving he’s not good enough.

  • 293 TimKrulFan // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:52 PM

    Royston Drenthe free agent we should get him 25 good player and a trouble maker are type of player!

  • 294 ppb // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:55 PM

    @solano beattie hated us at first lol. anyway id prefer that to be in the past now lol.

  • 295 beefman13 // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:57 PM

    Priscilla, cropped jeans and 3 inch mules and a white vest would be the order of the day!!! but if your wasting my time the lights will go out pretty quickly ha ha

  • 296 ppb // Sep 12, 2012 at 10:58 PM

    @timkrulfan we like troublemakers? wad that sarcasm. he does look decent. he’ll end up at qpr on 80k a week.

  • 297 ppb // Sep 12, 2012 at 11:00 PM

    @beefman lol. why would i need 3inch mules when we’ve established im 6ft11

  • 298 TimKrulFan // Sep 12, 2012 at 11:02 PM

    @ppb Barton,Ben arfa,Ranger,Alan smith,N’ZOGBIA,Lee bowyer

  • 299 Munster Mag // Sep 12, 2012 at 11:03 PM

    Magpies Fly High …cheers dude. I dont think i was posting much around the OV time. I do remember some idiots on this or another site in the first 2 years of Ashley, talking utter optimistic bollocks and defending him at every turn. For example, if we went for player X, but offered insufficient money and people got annoyed, they would then turn and say ” who says we were in for player X anyway ….the media are just making up stories” . It got ridiculous and so, KK was ridiculed,the appointment of Wise was defended, the lack of communication etc.

  • 300 beefman13 // Sep 12, 2012 at 11:05 PM

    ppb, beacuse im 6ft 8 ha ha!

  • 301 ppb // Sep 12, 2012 at 11:06 PM

    @munster now that is ridiculous of them.
    @timkrulfan so Ben arfa then. as hesvthe only one signed under the ashley regime

  • 302 Munster Mag // Sep 12, 2012 at 11:09 PM

    The silly thing about MA is that he could do a whole lot better with some basic guidance – eg fan communication etc. Also, I still hold out hope that we will get Debuchy, but at the end of the day, we will have lost nearly half a season, and the guy will be older anyway, if not by much! Until I see otherwise, I will maintain that most of his purchasing is guided by discount. Thats not a sustainable policy if progress is the goal ( but it isnt, prenier league solidity, and advertising, and a profitable club sale are the priorities ) , because we will constantly steer clear of players who could be perfectly suited to us, waiting for them to decline in value – or alternatively go for the cheaper, discounted player – because he has a discount on his head. In that sense, I maintain that if Cisse had cost 1 mill more , we probably would have headed for the hills, but i appreciate that this is conjecture on my behalf.

  • 303 ppb // Sep 12, 2012 at 11:09 PM

    baron we disliked so much we got rid of him for free. smith we couldn’t ditch. n’zogbia we sold without losing too much sleep over it. bowyer was forever ago.
    you missed out bellamy btw

  • 304 TimKrulFan // Sep 12, 2012 at 11:13 PM

    New I was missing someone.To be fair Bellamy is a changed man watched a program of him setting up a football charity in Africa my opinion has changed of him since I saw that.

  • 305 ppb // Sep 12, 2012 at 11:14 PM

    oh and ranger basically told he has no future here.
    @munster its a fair viewpoint. i believe we pay the right amount for the right player and there is more than 1 right player sometimes. i believe if lille hadn’t moved the goal posts we’d have debuchy now. as with you this is merely conjecture too so i appreciate how one could disagree

  • 306 ppb // Sep 12, 2012 at 11:17 PM

    belly is a better man now. i actually quite like him now. but was a knob when he was here

  • 307 ppb // Sep 12, 2012 at 11:18 PM

    anyway enough of me being the nice reasoning guy im off to sleep fellas. have fun

  • 308 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 12, 2012 at 11:19 PM

    In all honesty i cannot believe the bindippers were dumb enough to sell bellers to cardiff worst bit of buisness of there window

  • 309 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 12, 2012 at 11:22 PM

    Ppb
    Peace out fella

  • 310 tonynufc // Sep 12, 2012 at 11:31 PM

    getting desprit now.
    Need a job
    Qualified Pipe fitter/ heating engineer.
    can anyone help me out
    Cheers

  • 311 solano // Sep 12, 2012 at 11:32 PM

    Munster….Virgin Money’s 2nd installment hits the coffers in January. I understand the 1st payment financed the Cisse move and the next may indeed, finance another deal….whether that’ll be for debuchy or similar quality remains to be seen. And whether we will be an attractive move for top players also remains to be seen. I tend to think, like you, that moves this summer would have been more propitious to our prospects.

  • 312 solano // Sep 12, 2012 at 11:38 PM

    Tony310…you need your offshore tickets – if you haven’t got them, badger the dole…loads of work there for pipefitters.

  • 313 beefman13 // Sep 12, 2012 at 11:39 PM

    Craig bellamy was fabulous for the toon he for me was the kid who started the bobby robson era.

    he chased everything he scored goals he made goals he got at opposition defenders wound them up gave everything for us and while he was with us was my fav player at the time even over big al.

    off course he has been a bit of a shit outside of football and in it too sometimes but by he was brilliant for us, i wont ever forget his contribution for sure. they were happy days!

  • 314 NUFC_LEAZES END // Sep 12, 2012 at 11:39 PM

    Does anyone else think this blog is dying slowly?

  • 315 tonynufc // Sep 12, 2012 at 11:41 PM

    @solano. I do, just never hear back

  • 316 beefman13 // Sep 12, 2012 at 11:46 PM

    NUFC,LEAZES END, WE ARE ALL DYING SLOWLY SON! CHIN UP EH.

  • 317 solano // Sep 12, 2012 at 11:47 PM

    tony….you need a letter of ‘intent for employment’ – not a concrete job offer but something that states your employment prospects will be vastly improved with offshore qualifications/survival. There is still money floating about despite cutbacks, in some training quangos..but you have to be really persistent and that letter is very important.

  • 318 blissna // Sep 12, 2012 at 11:53 PM

    Well I was trying to be funny before and ruddy just decided to turn on me. Grand. I’ll stick to just reading the blog from now on. I’m not in the IN crowd.

  • 319 blissna // Sep 12, 2012 at 11:55 PM

    Leazes. I think it’s getting very ‘circle jerky’.

  • 320 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Sep 13, 2012 at 12:52 AM

    It’s becoming a poorer blog because of twats like me.

  • 321 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 13, 2012 at 2:24 AM

    Newcastle are great and have done remarkably in recent years, all credit where credit is due. Having said that, the club is in no way above criticism, particularly from passionate fans who pour millions into the club and who are completely entitled to speak their minds.

    Newcastle were in for a quality fullback, striker and center back all close season, presumably because the club believed we needed them for the demands of the coming season and we came up empty handed. We got a quality DM, who can also cover fullback and another top DM prospect who is perhaps better than even the club first thought and some good cover in areas of less urgency.

    We appear to have missed out on our targeted additions because of an unwillingness to meet near enough to what seemed not unreasonable asking prices even though we clearly felt we needed them.

    It is understandably disappointing for many fans, myself included, and of course it’s questionable. Although, I must say even I am just about ready to move on.

  • 322 Persian Geordie // Sep 13, 2012 at 6:29 AM

    PLEASE ADD RYAN TAYLOR TO THE BANNER

  • 323 jesperfuglsang // Sep 13, 2012 at 7:32 AM

    Morning lads :)

    Ibiza & Ruddy…I gave Raghu Dixit, Michael Kiwanuka and Mr. Black Keys Auerback a spin last nite ;)

    That was actually great timing ’cause apparantly hell was breaking loose in here…

    My review:

    Raghu Dixit – accoustic fusion music yes, but a bit strange for my liking ;) lol

    Michael Kiwanuka – I actually knew two of the tracks from the radio; “acoustic blues-folk sound and timeless soulful voice” what’s not to like about that :)

    Mr. Black Keys Auerbach – I sounds just like the Black Keys :) maybe a bit more bluesy! I didn’t find any song collaboration with Michael Kiwanuka???

    That was about it for me; we will for sure digist some more music later ;) I am working on a music questionnaire for today or maybe for tomorrow :)

    Stay tuned!!!

  • 324 Tsunki // Sep 13, 2012 at 7:35 AM

    Ryan for goodness` sake lad it doesnt matter how many different sign-on names you make up, you are not going on the banner.

  • 325 jesperfuglsang // Sep 13, 2012 at 7:36 AM

    I can see Ruddy Jiz visit us last night with some insightful comments ;) (I do wonder sometimes if it is one of our regular poster trolling…we seem to maybe have a few of those!)

  • 326 Tsunki // Sep 13, 2012 at 7:38 AM

    Oh yes I forgot –

    BRING BACK BEATTIE!

  • 327 jesperfuglsang // Sep 13, 2012 at 7:40 AM

    Are we starting a bring back column again :)

    BRING BACK SUPERMAN!

  • 328 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 13, 2012 at 7:53 AM

    Jesper
    How are you this morning?
    If you like Michael Kiwanuka have you tried ben howard or ray lamontagne? Both good albums for a bit of a chill out session

  • 329 jesperfuglsang // Sep 13, 2012 at 8:00 AM

    Morning TADS…I don’t think I know either at leasr not by name, but I’ll give them a spin ;)

  • 330 Rotonda heights // Sep 13, 2012 at 8:25 AM

    Krul

    Anita Colo Saylor Santon

    Tiote Bigi

    Benny Cabaye Marveaux

    Cisse / Ba

  • 331 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 13, 2012 at 8:30 AM

    Rotonda
    Good looking team that but i cant see marv starting ahead of jonas

    Jesper
    Well there both good albums, ben howards just been nominated for a mercury prize which is like a best up and coming artist award

  • 332 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 13, 2012 at 8:46 AM

    Good morning everyone.

    Beefman….I’m saving up for the padded walls – in the long run it will save me money on medical expenses :)

    Jesper…..Raghu is a little different – no idea why I live him then ;)

    Solano….Thanks for the reply. We’re obviously going to disagree on some issues and as you say, discussing and questioning is healthy. I don’t have a problem justifying my views, however personal justification (where I live, my ties to Newcastle etc, hardly have anything to do with my opinions on NUFC imo – Once again, I don’t recall you doing this). I can understand that maybe you don’t join in on certain aspects and therefore may be deemed more negatively inclined, but you still get enjoyment out of the team and viewing (well, maybe not this season yet – the quality hasn’t exactly been thrilling :) ). Long season ahead, I’m sure we’ll have many highs and lows to enjoy together (Hopefully enjoy more often than not).

    Munster…..I will assume I didn’t explain myself properly and try again. I wasn’t saying you were a negger, what I was saying is if you feel the need to continue with the hippy happies term for positive posters, is it not reasonable for people, who like you, are more in the constructive criticism to be called a negger? I was more looking to drop both terms. I know where you sit and think we agree on parts of it. £10-£15m or thereabouts investment will not bankrupt us. I personally believe these funds are available and our various enquiries weren’t just to be seen to to be active in the market with no real intention. I suppose where we differ mainly is the fact that MA isn’t willing to budge on final offers and the impact that has on the club. We need time to be able to assess fairly whether it hasn’t hampered us or not. I hear people say well if we had got Cisse in the summer not January we would have finished in CL. Whilst there is merit in that, it’s far from a forgone conclusion and at the end of the day it’s an argument over slow or fast progress imo…hardly criminal as some suggest on MA’s part.

    For the record, I don’t consider myself clueless when it comes to Ashley. He is a businessman and if the opportunity presents itself, he will of course sell the club for a profit and run away smiling. During his time we have improved the squad, trimmed the wages, which may not be in important to all fans, but it does make us an attractive buy for someone. The hard work would have been done and it gives someone a fresh canvas to stamp their mark on the club (Let’s hope we luck out and get something a little less tacky than Sports Direct :) ).

    In the meantime, whilst I see there is always room to improve, overall, I feel we are moving forward, albeit not at the rate to match some fans ambition, but that is not to say the club has none.

  • 333 Ian Toon // Sep 13, 2012 at 8:49 AM

    Solano@278— I get the sense that the most loyal and trusting of this
    country’s folk no longer trust or have confidence in men who are solely governed by avarice and the pursuit of money.
    What a surprise that MA should not have the deep in bred love of the club as you and I. You’ll be quoting Chaucer and the bible and the root of evil next. So Ashley puts a love for money above love of NUFC!
    It’s hardly unusual for the owner of a football club to want to influence outcomes in favour of self interest. So Ashley isn’t altruistic but a powerful owner who has his own agenda. Ideally a Geordie Bill Kenwright figure with a bottomless pit of money would be just perfect
    but Ashley is preferable to a number who ruled the roost before him.

  • 334 JAMSHA // Sep 13, 2012 at 8:51 AM

    well i see espn india are showng u19 european tournment live an they showng spurs match tonight….is newcstle in the tournment?

  • 335 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 13, 2012 at 8:53 AM

    http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2012/09/13/61634-31825076/

    Nile ranger seriously needs to look at sammy and gael top lads, top professionals

  • 336 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 13, 2012 at 8:59 AM

    Morning ibiza
    Thats some essay lad its not even 9 o’clock yet!!!

  • 337 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 13, 2012 at 9:00 AM

    Tads….It’s the size that counts though, right? :)

  • 338 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 13, 2012 at 9:01 AM

    Plus I’m an hour ahead, so in theory I should be more awake and have consumed more coffee ;)

  • 339 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 13, 2012 at 9:02 AM

    Ibiza
    So ive been told! ;)

  • 340 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 13, 2012 at 9:04 AM

    tads…Usually behind someone trying to hold back their laughter? Yeah, I know the drill :)

    So, any shattering news this morning?

  • 341 jesperfuglsang // Sep 13, 2012 at 9:09 AM

    TADS…Ben Howard has this Jack Johnson quality about him :) if he’s up and coming I’ll be loking out for him. Ray Lamontagne i didn’t really know either – He sort of reminds me of Bob Dylan in a way (I am a huge Dylan fan by the way) and has a Damien Rice alure about him (say Damien Rice a few years ago and what a concert that was, very intimit)

    …For the Summer and Like Rock & Roll and Radio does ring a bell though :)

    Now I am in need for some Rock infusion though :) lol…by the way what are we talking about this fine Thursday morning? (have been locked away with music in my ears)

  • 342 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 13, 2012 at 9:13 AM

    Jesp
    Your talking to yourself again theres a ahiny new ED article on the next page!
    Glad you enjoyed them but yeah agree in the summer you gotta crank it up a bit!!

  • 343 jesperfuglsang // Sep 13, 2012 at 9:14 AM

    TADS…damnit :) no one ever seem to give me a heads up ;) haha




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