Newcastle manager Alan Pardew will serve the first game of his two match touch-line ban on Monday night at Goodison Park, after he picked up the ban after pushing that linesman during the game with Tottenham at St. James’ Park.
John Carver – on the sidelines against Everton and Norwich
John Carver, along with Steve Stone will be on the sidelines for the game at Everton and the Norwich City game at home, when Chris Hughton returns to Tyneside.
And of course John has lots of experience from being Bobby Robson’s right hand man during the five years Bobby was managing his home town club, and during that time Newcastle twice were in the Champions League.
Pardew pleaded guilty to an FA charge of improper conduct for pushing linesman Peter Kirkup in the club’s first game against Tottenham, and he’s now paying the price with the two game ban, and he was also fined £20K.
This is what Alan Pardew told the Shields Gazette this morning:
“I like to stand close to the sideline – I can feel the game there.” “I can understand what the players are going through when I’m that close.”
“Sometimes, because I’m detached, I can understand how they are feeling, and that will be taken away from me.” “Obviously, I’ll be in the stand, and I’ll look at it in a different way.”
“Maybe I’ll see things like the shape of the team. John can do the role I normally do.”
Pardew was peppered with questions about injuries yesterday during his press conference, and was asked whether Newcastle should have brought in more first team players over the summer.
But Alan stuck to his guns, and will rely on some of Newcastle’s top youngsters coming through over the next several weeks, while we have some top players out through injury.
We’ll be interested to see how well the lads do – we hope they come through big time.
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54 responses so far ↓
1 Zero // Sep 14, 2012 at 11:06 AM
Does it matter whos on the side lines…. Pards picks a formation and sticks with it for the whole game even if its not working.
2 check the toastie // Sep 14, 2012 at 11:08 AM
No Manager, No Goalkeeper, No Captain, No Mr T, away to a bullying side, full of beans. Things arent looking great at the moment, Things can only get better….hmmmmmmmm…
3 cyprus // Sep 14, 2012 at 11:11 AM
So AP,
See, there is a silver lining! Hint: Win the midfield battle, win the game! Suggestion: 4-5-1 (interchangable with 4-4-2 when attacking). Midfield: HBA, Bigi, Cabaye, Jonas, Marveaux
You’ll see the shape of the team from up there
4 Transfer Sage // Sep 14, 2012 at 11:16 AM
Jimmy
I know you have a big dislike of Ashley. Do you know what people within the club think of him…always wondered what playing/coaching staff thought of the man.
I persoanlly don’t mind the guy, think we are solid and competitive in the premier league.
Who do you think our best owner has been?
I can’t think of a one who has done much better, we have had very wasteful owners in the past and I think they appeased the fans buy making 1 or 2 big signings but without actually winning anything.
i’m sure you will remember plenty of owners who have done a great job.
I just think since money came into football 25 or so years ago we have never really done much at all, nothing consistent anyway. It was always an attempt at short term success.
5 cyprus // Sep 14, 2012 at 11:26 AM
Transfer,
we were really really close to the big-time (i.e. top two, Europe a routine) remember, at least for 4-5 years.
6 jimmymagpie // Sep 14, 2012 at 11:32 AM
Transfer – I have no great dislike of Ashley, I’ve only met him briefly on a couple of occasions, but I do dislike his lack of FOOTBALLING vision for this club. His vision is only a FINANCIAL one, with one aim in mind – sell when the economic situation improves. Now, Llambias, I dislike with a passion. An odious individual, who can’t stand us, our city, or our region, and has openly spoken of his contempt for Geordies. There have only been owners as such in recent years, before that the club was run by a board of share holding directors. In my time, it was best in the late 1940s to mid 1950s, when Stan Seymour Senior was more or less chairman/manager. Unfortunately, the in-fighting than started with the McKeag family, and it was basically down hill from then.
7 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 14, 2012 at 11:34 AM
On AP and his recent comments….It’s a really tough position to be in, imo anyone who doesn’t see this, hasn’t really thought it through.
He has the following things to consider.
1) Fans reaction
2) Board reaction
3) Press / Media reaction
4) Players reaction
5) Opposing teams / manager reaction
Now, clear your head, can you think of a way to please all of those people, whilst keeping your job? I personally wouldn’t want the job – but hey, he chose it and will have to find a way. Incidentally, I do see how these recent comments have upset fans, but for a minute try and think around how we perceive it and see what you come up with.
8 dave 1961 // Sep 14, 2012 at 11:37 AM
Transfer
my brother’s been to events with Ashley, Llambias & Chris Mort. he liked Ashly & Mort, but had guest’s shocked by Llambias’s rumbling’s about his east end gangster friends.
9 dave 1961 // Sep 14, 2012 at 11:42 AM
Ibizatoon
if he delivers on the pitch he can spout his rubbish if he fails on the pitch, then this could come back to haunt him, it will be hard to be a fan’s manager if you seem to be part of the problem. i have a feeling its Pardew last season.
10 jimmymagpie // Sep 14, 2012 at 11:43 AM
Ibiza – good morning sir, I’m afraid I’m going to have to go as my good lady wife is strictly monitoring my blood pressure these days. LOL! Seriously, I just think that Pardew should be more careful about what he says, and perhaps remember what he has already put out in the public domain. He also seems to have upset Everton with a silly comment, and I fear that he’s about to find out this season that ‘one swallow a summer doth not make’. Anyway, speak soon. Take care, HTL!
11 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 14, 2012 at 11:45 AM
Dave….Fair point, but not really the discussion I was trying for. It’s more of a fundamental thing for me. I know at the end of the day results are what keep people happy, but if that’s all we really care about, so far, the results and points have been okay, so why would he be in his last season?
12 rainrix // Sep 14, 2012 at 11:45 AM
Ah Chris Mort now he was a good chairman. Actually bothered to communicate with the fans and came across as a decent guy, Shame he left
13 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 14, 2012 at 11:49 AM
Dave1961
Double manager of the season to unemployed because of one disappointing transfer window because the owners wouldnt finacially splash out just cant see it im affraid!
I think the managers job at the toon is possibly the worst job in the PL, everything falls on you not just the team buisness but everything from board room decisions to lack of transfers no win situation
14 Transfer Sage // Sep 14, 2012 at 11:49 AM
Thanks jimmy, always good to hear off you.
Cyprus, we had 2 years of champions league, not really consistent.
If you are still there jimmy, we’re the people you know at the club shocked we isn’t get category 1 academy status or was it expected for to lack of backing from the top.
What I will also say is that if Ashley is setting the club up to be a good prospect to sell that’s good as well.
If we get a rich owner who backs not just the club, but the city like the owner of man city then that can only be good. If our club is debt free, has a competitive team and operates on a tight budget then an owner can come in and start building for the future without havin to fix old problems.
15 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 14, 2012 at 11:49 AM
Jimmy…Your wife is a smart one, this blog recently is no place to keep stress free
Shame really.
He is contradicting himself, which is pretty poor really.
As for the Everton comment, I’m guessing you mean the belittling them that Jagielka has claimed? I read an article yesterday, that was supposedly using Pardews real quotes and it didn’t read like what Jags seems to think Pardew said. I don’t remember the comments myself, so am having to put trust that the article isn’t just made up, but it wouldn’t be the first time a genius footballers has got the wrong end of the stick, would it?
I’ll try find the article and post the link for next time you’re on.
Incidentally, I’ve made some points on the last thread about OV if you wish to see the other side of it – you know, in our continuing battle for common ground and acceptance
16 dave 1961 // Sep 14, 2012 at 11:51 AM
Ibizatoon
i will be happy with quality football i would like to win something one day but not at the expense of seeing football, one thing i bet I’m not with the fans who will turn on Pardew, i have been going to football since 72 and have liked many manager’s who have never delivered anything, this time I’m disliking the manager to see what happens, could a manager i don’t like win something?
17 Transfer Sage // Sep 14, 2012 at 11:52 AM
Pardew won’t get sacked cause he didn’t spend.
No manager will come here expecting to spend as vast sums of money aren’t available.
Ashley will probably be happy pards gets some stick for not spending.
As long as we are competitive on the pitch pardew will remain the manager.
18 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 14, 2012 at 11:53 AM
http://www.themag.co.uk/the-mag-columnists/alan-pardew-disrespectful-what-was-really-said/
There it is
19 dave 1961 // Sep 14, 2012 at 11:54 AM
her’s a list of managers i have dislike or even hated.
Gordon lee.
Bill Mcgarry.
Jack Charlton.
Souness.
20 cyprus // Sep 14, 2012 at 11:58 AM
First of all, respect to you guys who can recall ‘ancient’ owners! Last time I’m commenting on MA, since I don’t know much about him: He seems a likable fella (rare in billionnaires) who could do with a beautiful lass by his side. He tried to communicate with us with terrible repercussions. He tried to please us in hiring wor heroes (Keegan and Shearer who weren’t ready) Didn’t he used to wear an NUFC shirt (who else did that?) He doesn’t seem to want to make money from this club, or he’s a fool if he does, which doesn’t appear likely.
21 bollance // Sep 14, 2012 at 12:00 PM
Has anyone noticed that when Tiote is injured there is never much detail as to how he is injured or for how long he is out for?
With every injury it seems that he will be back next match but then matchday and he is still injured.
22 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 14, 2012 at 12:01 PM
dave1961…In my opinion and it is based on belief from what I have seen over the past little while and obviously not certain to be correct is that we are building. No one can just come in and change it all at once, no matter how much money you throw at it.
First things first – some form of stability. From where we were a few years back, I don’t think anyone can argue that things are less like a rollercoaster these days.
Then we need to get the right players in to push on and start playing some attractive football. On a budget and with a new manager, this will take some time. Whilst the percentage may not be what we want to have seen, we have witnessed some bloody good football, in particular towards the end of last season – it shows it can be done and ideas are starting to come to the fore.
Then we may be in a position to win something. I can’t imagine there isn’t anyone connected to the club that doesn’t want this. I would prefer we do it the way we are, rather than say how Birmingham won the league cup (with relegation).
I know we’ve been burnt many times before, even by Ashley and co. However, I for one, see improvement and am happy to give them some time to complete their plan – even if it is just to clean things up and get Ashley out. Surely that’s a good thing is he is such a monster as a fair few people think?
23 cyprus // Sep 14, 2012 at 12:03 PM
Bollance,
Tiote takes no prisoners, that’s his style, and he pays for that, unfortunately. Still, we need him in the team as he takes games by the scruff, and he always asks for the ball, even when it’s not working. Need him back!
24 davybtoon // Sep 14, 2012 at 12:04 PM
Really don’t know why so many of you have huge problems with bringing young lads through the ranks, alot of these lads are 20 coming up to 21 there gonna have to b included in the squad next season or season after so why not bring them through now, we have streete, Tav n good so do we really need a cb I don’t think so if if these lads are gonna get the chance, same goes for a lot I other positions
25 dave 1961 // Sep 14, 2012 at 12:08 PM
davybtoon
i think most fans are looking forward to these kids playing, but many like myself want them playing because they are ready and not because of an overly thin squad, things do look good, but it a case of make or break, we need to do it right.
26 davybtoon // Sep 14, 2012 at 12:10 PM
Dave these kids are ready though is the squad really that thin we have over 30players for first team
27 dave 1961 // Sep 14, 2012 at 12:12 PM
davybtoon
yes but when we go past the 1st 11 it gets very patchy. apart from the kids who have to replace the lesser players.
28 rainrix // Sep 14, 2012 at 12:17 PM
Davy… The Thing is would you start any of the youngsters over our 1st teamers? Not likely. At this stage they are more bench material. Lets look at our 7 slots i’d say marveux obertan shola and harper are likely our 1st 4 names on the bench. So thats 3 places for youngsters. Dont get me wrong we have massive potential, Its just gonna be really hard for them to break into the 1st team, europa and the cups are for trying the kids which is what we are doing anyhow.
29 davybtoon // Sep 14, 2012 at 12:28 PM
If u never play they will never prove them selfs bloody hell may as well scrap the academy with some you lots attitude, every team has a strong 11 then it’s squad players maybe one/two teams have 2 teams of 11, I wouldn’t hesitate to play any of Tav, good, streete, abeid, biggie, sammi, fergie, vukic, dummitt, Campbell if needed n there is more not far behind
30 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 14, 2012 at 12:35 PM
I’m off – hopefully some ideas or responses when I return
31 t00ntime // Sep 14, 2012 at 12:37 PM
@zero (post 1)
Thats complete bullhump. Almost every game we start with 4-4-2yes, but we rarely finish with 4-4-2. Multiple times during a game you see him changing the formation or weather we hold or move forward.
32 Jail for Ashley // Sep 14, 2012 at 12:39 PM
Whichever way we look at,youngsters or not a couple of players are going to have to play three games in a week,not impossible as a one off but we’ve got runs like this till the end of the year,Man U had to play Carrick as a CB due to an injury crisis,we are in this situation after one CB gets crocked.
33 Transfer Sage // Sep 14, 2012 at 12:40 PM
Davy
I’m all for playing the youngsters and giving them a chance to shine.
Players like Campbell, sammy (looked good last year) and streets have a good chance.
I’m not so sure on tav, the lad is 21, barely made a first team appearance and when out on loan ends up in league one. Maybe he just isn’t good enough to cut it at the top level
34 check the toastie // Sep 14, 2012 at 12:40 PM
We have enough talent still at Pardews disposal at the weekend, however if Pardew perseveres with 442 with Ba and Cisse we are in big trouble. Cannot go to Everton and not control a certain amount of possession as they will get their tails up and dominate us.
Pardew’s selections are of constant concern to me.
Currently i believe Pardew is not getting the best out of this squad in footballing performances terms. Application and Effort for sure but Tactics and technical footballing performance wise nowhere near.
35 Transfer Sage // Sep 14, 2012 at 12:45 PM
Check
I agree with you.
2 points.
1. We played our best football and gt great results in a form of 433 last year so why change back to 442.
2. 442 is fine if you have two wingers who can whip in a good cross or cut the ball back into the middle for the forwards. We play Jonas who defends too much and Ben arfa who wanders inside.
It means we play a narrow 442 and get no service to the strikers which makes them look bad as they have little who work with.
We have scored 3 prem goals. A great shot by Ba, a pen and a solo effort from benny. We have yet to carve teams open and put away chances.
I’m not anti-pardew but he needs to pick the players to suit the formation. If he wants 442 use genuine wingers. If he wants these current lads genius starting go 433
36 davybtoon // Sep 14, 2012 at 12:55 PM
Transfer sage disagree Tav is the one that looks most likely to me, yea he’s made a few mistakes but so what we have first teamers who make mistakes every week, long term deals for Tav, sammi, fergie, abeid, vukic, good n biggie suggest they will b first teamers in time n I’d expect Inman, Newton, dummitt, streete n Campbell all to end up with new deals b4 next season
37 Transfer Sage // Sep 14, 2012 at 1:02 PM
Davy
For me sammy and fergie are the top 2 with Campbell a couple years off.
If tav was good enough why would be chasing another right back all summer and why hasn’t he had more games. 21 isn’t young for a footballer. Talented players are already involved in the first team a lot more by his age then or at least on loan to prem league teams.
38 Big Pappa Cissé // Sep 14, 2012 at 1:06 PM
If Pardew wants to keep playing Ba & Cisse up top then he needs to play this formation. With all players fit I would go for
———————-Krul———————-
–Debuchy—-Taylor——Collocini—-Santon–
——Tiote———Cabaye———Anita——-
———————HBA———————–
————Cisse————-Ba—————-
Hopefully we can get Debuchy in January but play Simpson there until then. We will need attacking fullbacks to give us width and Anita &Tiote can drop back when they bomb forward. Also I think the reason Ba & Cisse have not been scoring is simple, they have no link between the midfield and I feel HBA’s little reverse passes and speed will open up allot of chances for the Demba’s. Imagine having to mark Ba & Cisse with Ben Arfa running full speed at you, scary stuff.
39 Big Pappa Cissé // Sep 14, 2012 at 1:09 PM
My top 3 youngsters are
1. Sammy
2. Fergie
3. Bigirimana
I just feel that they are the closest to first team football at the minute
40 toonLYF // Sep 14, 2012 at 1:27 PM
think they’ll be many a scouse ball boy pulling a sicky with Yohan being in town.
Big Pappa Cisse – is that ordered? Sammy is looking good but still very very raw imo, although his style on the ball is unorthodox and does cause problems. I’d definitely say Bigirimana is comfortably our best youngter, followed by Abeid (where is Mehdi?) and then Ferguson who i view as immediate LB cover for Santon.
41 davybtoon // Sep 14, 2012 at 1:30 PM
Transfer sage – 21 isn’t young so why are ppl worried about them playing, pardew has said Tav is a cb to him for me he can play anywhere across back 4, all have contracts that take them to we’re they need to b added to 25 man squad so expect that to happen rather than new signings, transfer I’ll tell why they arnt involved its bcoz were terrible at bringing through our own talent maybe 1 every 4/5 seasons has been are past record only since pardew got here were starting to see a change n all of a sudden we 8/9 coming through at once, with another 8/9 behind them for in a few years time
42 newcben // Sep 14, 2012 at 1:35 PM
@Bigpapacisse
I was going to disagree with you. However looking at it again I agree.
That would leave HBA to go whether ever he wants.
Cabaye could push forward and Tiote and Anita hold.
Then Debuchy and Santon can bomb forward.
43 newcben // Sep 14, 2012 at 1:38 PM
For Everton away I think we need to play 1 up top personally.
————–Krul—————
Santon–Willo–Taylor–Jonas
——Anita—–Bigi———–
HBA——Cabaye——Marv
————–Ba—————
Thats what id go for, I hate Jonas centrally I think he is clumsy on the ball.
44 toonLYF // Sep 14, 2012 at 1:40 PM
also, your post at 38 – i very much agree, the problem has been the gap in between our strikers and midfielders, Ben Arfa would definitely solve that in the 4-3-1-2 formation, however if Pardew doesn’t wanna change things that much, even a 4-4-1-1 would be more effective with Ba playing in the CF/CAM role using his strength to bring others into the game, or even flicking on our inevitable long balls towards Cisse.
The people who say 4-3-3 (or variants) won’t change everything overnight, are somewhat right, it will not; however what it will do is encourage the players particularly in the middle of the park, to start playing with the ball on the ground. Personally i think it would’ve been better to start the season in this formation, i’m not a 4-4-2 hater but with it being a very rigid formation, the players need to be in full flow so to speak, to do the damage due to the space inbetween each department… and lets face it, we’re far from in full flow right now.
I’m fully behind Pardew, and we have a fantastic set of players. We’re sitting on here talking about the scary prospect of certain Everton players…..they don’t have a Ben Arfa? They don’t have a pass master like Yohan? Trust me lads, Everton will have their doubts and worries too. Should be a great game between the leagues two “best of the rest” teams, and considering 3 years ago we weren’t even part of “the rest”, that brings me, and hopefully all of you’s, great pleasure in hearing that.
WE’RE DOING JUST FINE, EVERYBODY RELAX.
45 LewSpi // Sep 14, 2012 at 1:43 PM
Can anyone feel a ManU1999esque style youth team tingling in our youth squad? By that I mean pretty much an entire youth team challenging for a first team spot who have all played together in our youth squad for minimum a year.
If you think about most of the positions on the field, there is a player under 22 years old challenging for it. And the team that’s doing it is smashing the new U21 league to pieces.
Exciting.
46 check the toastie // Sep 14, 2012 at 1:45 PM
Think Sammy and Tav will make great PL players, Bigi probably as well, Fergy not sure, Vuckic – nope, Campbell early days, Abeid – Talented but seems to have an attitude by all accounts. My view for what it is worth.
47 nufc7lad // Sep 14, 2012 at 1:46 PM
I was so bored so I came up with this. Imagine this team next year:
I would get rid of all players who’s contract runs out in 2013, and sell players who’s contract has a year left (up to 2014) and players aged 31 or older next summer.
Out:
Colo – £7m to Boca Juniors
Demba Ba – £13m to Man U
Perch – £2m to Notss Forest
Gosling – £1.5m to Blackburn Rovers
Sh Ameobi – £1.5m to Stoke City
In:
Doulgas – Free
Yanga M-biwa – Free
Boudebouz – Free
Carroll – £11m
Remy £15m
Krul
Santon Yanga-Mbiwa Doulgas Ferguson
Anita Cabaye Tiote
Boudebouz Cisse Ben Arfa
Subs:
Elliot
R Taylor
S Taylor
Obertan
Guttierez
Remy
Carroll
Imagine Cisse, Remy and Caroll all competing for one striking spot :O. All at a net spend of just £1m. Champions League football in the 2014-2015 season starting of with a community shield game as FA cup Champions vs Chelsea maybe :O
48 NUFC_LEAZES END // Sep 14, 2012 at 2:03 PM
@nufc7lad
Why on earth would we want Carroll back? And we can’t have fertile as our 1st choice left back, although he is quite promising (potential-wise).
49 jesperfuglsang // Sep 14, 2012 at 2:04 PM
Nufc7…so basically you want Mike to spend £26M on two subs?
50 toonLYF // Sep 14, 2012 at 2:07 PM
nufc7 – We need to keep hold of Colo for aslong as his health and fitness allows us to, no Yanga M’biwa or Douglas will replace him. As for selling Shola? NO NO NO!!!
51 JAMSHA // Sep 14, 2012 at 2:26 PM
Fifa 13 rateing ?????
http://www.chuzzz.com/UT13/
good is 61.. tiote 78 wtf
52 danishmag // Sep 14, 2012 at 2:27 PM
nufc7lad..
I can tell that you must have been bored to death.. What a load of c.. r…a…p!
53 davis_toons // Sep 14, 2012 at 4:34 PM
Everton love to head. Our defence have to be careful with the “BOB hair” and their new striker.
54 matt11_25 // Sep 14, 2012 at 11:33 PM
GET RYAN TAYLOR IN THE BANNER
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