Newcastle Manager Livid Over Unhappy Demba Ba Comments

We had reported yesterday on the comments made by Demba Ba’s agent Alex Gontran, which basically said that if his client Demba Ba continued to be a substitute at Newcastle, then they would look at other solutions.

Demba Ba – I have not been so happy with some things

We basically put that down to agents stirring up trouble again, and trying to get Ba to another club so the agent himself could cash in and get paid on the deal – they think that’s their job.

But it seems the outburst by Gontran has also been accompanied by a statement from the player himself, and news today in the Daily Express that Alan Pardew is a little livid about the comments.

This is what Demba Ba said after the game, in which he scored the 1,000th goal in the Premier League for Newcastle United:

“I was very determined because lately I have not been so happy with some things that have been going on. When I got my boots on, I couldn’t wait.”

His agent, Alex Gontran, would be well advised to cool things a little, because however good a player is, they are not going to play every game, and yes – egos get ruffled when a player is benched.

But it happens at the big clubs, and with Newcastle moving back into the big time, the team has to be the all important thing and not any one single player, and Alan Pardew has stressed that point ever since he arrived on Tyneside.

And it’s not how things used to be at Newcastle in the past.

We’ll have to see how this story develops, but it could be that Demba Ba is fined for his comments, but we hope this thing doesn’t blow up out of proportion, and that Alan Pardew can handle the problem quickly and quietly, and behind closed doors.

There’s no reason why Demba Ba will not be starting on Sunday against Norwich City, and either Papiss or Demba will start tomorrow night in Madeira against Maritimo in the Europa League.

Let’s keep the team spirit strong at Newcastle – after all it got us a great point on Monday night at Goodison Park.

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30 comments so far

  • davybtoon

    Sep 19, 2012 at 8:35 AM

    Comment #1

    This thing with ba is simple for me he isn’t happy about playing wide n rightly so, but his agent then goes n makes a load of noise other nothing just to drum up interest

    Ba not leaving proves he loves it here for me even though he weren’t happy he still stayed

  • Ian Toon

    Sep 19, 2012 at 8:46 AM

    Comment #2

    davybtoon- previous post. He didn’t play but you surely want to retain Remi Streete. He’s a little older but Inman has been our best player this season to date .

  • TorqToon

    Sep 19, 2012 at 8:49 AM

    Comment #3

    Morning gents! Demba Ba needs to finally take some control of his representation! His ‘agents’ seem to be money orientated solely, with little concern to the player himself.

    As has been said before, we have shown that NO player is bigger than the club. If those truly ARE the thoughts of Ba then he will either need to grow up and earn a starting position (which he has done!) or find himself a club that will guarantee him a start every week! (good luck with that!!) I’m 98% certain that these ARENT the true feelings of big Demba, and if that’s the case, it’s time to take initiative and get rid of the vermin that are trying to cash in on the lad! I think if he was unhappy here he would have gone in the summer…not after 1 game on the bench!

  • jamesnufc86

    Sep 19, 2012 at 8:49 AM

    Comment #4

    Demba Ba has to look at the bigger picture , playing out wide and being dropped ONCE and the throws his dummy out his pram. You wouldn’t get Cisse doing that, I think he suffers badly from his ego and really hope his negative attitude doesn’t spiral into the rest of the lads who will do anything to help the team, just look at Anita’ attitude he’d play goalie if asked

  • stk85

    Sep 19, 2012 at 9:05 AM

    Comment #5

    if these really are the thoughts of ba, or he’s not willing to change his agents, just get rid.

    no one is bigger than NUFC.

    Come on Ashley, sort out the vermin

  • davybtoon

    Sep 19, 2012 at 9:06 AM

    Comment #6

    Ian toon – remi streete will get a new long term deal but he only signed a new 3 year deal at the start of last season, think him n Campbell, sammi, Tav, alnwickwill all get 5 year deals this season, reckon dummitt, Inman n moyo will get 3 year deals

  • jesperfuglsang

    Sep 19, 2012 at 9:09 AM

    Comment #7

    Yo, Davy & Ian…thanks for your reply 🙂 I had to leave for a moment!

    Morning Torq…How’s France on a wednesday morning? 🙂

    In house problems should be dreal with in house…But taking a que from Sir Alex Ferguson – adabt the players you have to your system or get rid of them.

    Look at Rooney; he doesn’t play the same way as he did when he came from Everton.

    Sir Alex likes to play 4-6-0 with a fake #9 and Rooney downs down in a #10 position or sometimes he plays out right.

    For me Ba can play out left in a 4-3-3, he can play a forward in a 4-4-2 or he can play as a lone striker.

    Pardew don’t change the system, change Ba 🙂

  • Transfer Sage

    Sep 19, 2012 at 9:10 AM

    Comment #8

    Happens all the time at bigger teams.

    To be in Europe you need more players, therefore everyone can’t play every game. You need not just 11 good players but 18 at least.

    Means you always have people who aren’t happy being a squad player.

    Teams like man Utd and man city get away with it a bit as they win trophies so players are happy.

    Teams like us, arsenal, spurs etc will have unhappy players as they won’t get as much game time as they like and would rather but a regular or a squad player in a steam what wins things.

    Best bet is do as much as possible to keep him happy but have to put the team first. If that doesn’t help got to get as much money as possible and replace.

    But I really want us to keep Ba, he scores all kinda of goals

  • jesperfuglsang

    Sep 19, 2012 at 9:10 AM

    Comment #9


  • pieceofpapiss

    Sep 19, 2012 at 9:12 AM

    Comment #10

    I thought we were trying to stay clear of Players with agents like this? We’ve proven that we wont be held to ransom by agents.

    If Ba isnt happy about where/when he gets played then he can either work harder to get his place back (which he did at Everton) or move to a club thats going to give him what he wants, clearly that will be a backwards step in his career.

  • yorkymag

    Sep 19, 2012 at 9:14 AM

    Comment #11

    Who knows what the truth about all this noise is ,I agree most likely a frustrated player and a greedy agent.
    It does however raise a much bigger issue that will be a constant problem for nufc our two key forwards are too similar and do not complement each other well ,it will I think always be an issue trying to fit them in -whilst not the answer the more direct approach of Shola works better with either Ba or Cisse.
    We have what we have got but the real point here is we need a forward that can add a different dimension to the front line and if Ba is replaced to resolve this for me so be it.

  • davybtoon

    Sep 19, 2012 at 9:15 AM

    Comment #12

    Christ what dembas sulk b like b like if we had of bought a striker

  • Ian Toon

    Sep 19, 2012 at 9:16 AM

    Comment #13

    davybtoon- I am a big Inman fan his form is fairly constant and would like to see him get a Europa run – appreciate it’s the most competitive area . He’s been unlucky with injuries but looks really sharp. Campbell is going to be a player and we could do with an injection of pace running off Cisse/Ba – favour not yet a start in EPL. Too soon.

  • davybtoon

    Sep 19, 2012 at 9:17 AM

    Comment #14

    Ba dosent like being on the bench then the worst thing he could do is move to a bigger club which is we’re he would find himself sitting if he went there

  • Ollieh51

    Sep 19, 2012 at 9:17 AM

    Comment #15

    Sorry but where has all of this come from?!

    Ba’s agents need a smack in the mouth and we have known this for some time.

    Pardew hasn’t even commented on this other than once mentioning that people were upsetting the apple cart and now a percentage of peopel on here are having a go at Ba for being a mercenary etc?!

    He stayed over summer FFS! If he wanted to leave, he would have done so by now, end of.

    Pardew said why he rested him and Ba proved he’s the boy at the minute.

    Big storm, tiny tea cup, and the media jumping on this and the OberToon ‘refusal’ and Cabaye’s alleged unhappiness shows how far from the mark the recent reports on us have been!

    Lets just focus on supporting the lads for what they’re showing us on the pitch yeah?!

  • davybtoon

    Sep 19, 2012 at 9:21 AM

    Comment #16

    Ian toon – said b4 with Campbell’s pace I would like to see him get 20mins in a game

    Fans should take a greater interest in the youth teams bcoz I believe we will start to see a lot more of them being promoted rather than signing players

  • jawballsaswallwell

    Sep 19, 2012 at 9:21 AM

    Comment #17

    Pardew will not drop Cisse after 4 games. What he did last season was astonishing and he’s been ok so far without finding the net and that goal for Senegal was world class. It’ll be 442 with Ba and Cisse up top or 433 with Ba playing wide. Unless something dramatic’s up behind the scenes, that’s what’s gonna happen.

  • jesperfuglsang

    Sep 19, 2012 at 9:24 AM

    Comment #18

    If Ba and Cisse are too much alike (which I don’t think they are) and if they are our two first choice strikers, then simply don’t play 4-4-2 with both together.

    4-3-3 as our first choice formation – of course depends on our opposition – and change to 4-4-2 later if needed 🙂

    Pardew cannot have both; as I have said before Pardew’s main problem is his stubornness and his inability to kill his darling 🙂

  • yorkymag

    Sep 19, 2012 at 9:27 AM

    Comment #19

    442 or 443 it makes no difference they are still too much the same it is no surprise they never play together for their country

  • jawballsaswallwell

    Sep 19, 2012 at 9:38 AM

    Comment #20

    Of course they can play together, they did it in the 2nd half of last season when we had that great run of form. Pardew needs to convince Ba to accept a wide role when needed, it would be pathetic if the pair of them can’t reconcile this problem. If this is really just about Ba wanting to be the 1st choice striker then Pardew needs to help him get his head out of his arse if that’s the case because Cisse can’t play wide and he can, it’s that simple.

  • wynsleap

    Sep 19, 2012 at 9:45 AM

    Comment #21

    Ba should take a look at the Man City bench last night in the game against Real Madrid.
    Aguero, Dzeko and Balotelli didn’t make the team.
    IF it is true, it is time he came into the real world and grew up.
    If NOT he should have a quiet word with his agent, who is obviously looking for a lucrative payday and tell him to keep his trap shut.
    If he’s not prepared to do either, the club should let him go and be petulant somewhere else.

  • ash1001

    Sep 19, 2012 at 9:58 AM

    Comment #22

    Ed, your getting like the tabloids – making headlines up, hope its not to get viewer numbers up, your blog is better than that.

    Where does it say AP was LIVID, it was AP that used the word ANGRY as well not Demba, like any good pro committed to the club which (other than his agent) Demba seems to be, we was unhappy about been on the bench.
    And for AP to say he selected Cisse because he had scored for Senegal was wrong as well (in my opinon), sometimes AP seems to like the sound of his own voice.

    It was AP that got the selection and tactics wrong in the first half – no one else.

  • stuart no9

    Sep 19, 2012 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #23

    if it is the agents who are causing the unrest with the player, it will creep into the dressing room as well. these agents need sorting out pretty quickly. if ba himself is not happy, and thinks he should not be on the bench he should leave. we need to keep that spirit we have, as at present we havnt much else to rely on to win games. ba will not go to any club in the prem where he is quaranteed a game every week. players have left NUFC in the past to better themselves , history has proven not many do. Ba and his agents need to think very carefully before they start rocking the boat.

  • Lee Dodd

    Sep 19, 2012 at 11:52 AM

    Comment #24

    So Far Demba Ba has been able to stay fit – he has played every game so far this season. He is a Team Player we don’t shape the team around him. He needs to get a grip – no one wanted him in the summer so he needs to remember we pay his wages or move out and we get carroll back !!!!

  • Lee Dodd

    Sep 19, 2012 at 11:54 AM

    Comment #25

    BA will start on thursday night and cisse on the bench … Cisse was on the bench against the greeks did he twine no he just smiled at the fans with cabaye >>> Were going to the metro centre tomorow we may head to mothercare for a Rattle for ba to throw out of his pram !!!

  • TorqToon

    Sep 19, 2012 at 12:13 PM

    Comment #26

    Jesp – France is beautiful today! In a conference all day which isn’t ideal but there are worse jobs out there! 🙂

    Didn’t manage to watch the Montpelier / arsenal game yesterday. How did Yanga get on? I’m looking forward to watching them on Friday and putting in many scouting hours as big GC !

    My future star from the ranks – Remy Cabella. 20yr old midfielder! Ben Arfa esq…and yes I know we have an abundance of CM’s, but he will be one to watch I can guarantee it!

  • TorqToon

    Sep 19, 2012 at 12:14 PM

    Comment #27

    Lee – Ba didn’t travel for Thursday’s game mate! Cue the conspiracy theories! 🙂

  • Cool Hand Luke

    Sep 19, 2012 at 5:36 PM

    Comment #28

    Ed you have yourself blown this out of proportion more by adding fuel to the fire and basically making something up about AP being livid. I see no quotes from Pardew to suggest anything of the sort.

  • Carryingcoals

    Sep 19, 2012 at 5:57 PM

    Comment #29

    I noticed this too, it’s a fabrication. Regardless of the comments made, Ba would never have featured in this game because we need him rested for Sunday.

  • 89Norcal

    Sep 20, 2012 at 4:10 AM

    Comment #30

    I saw the article on ESPN, complete twisting of words in order to fabricate an incendiary article title. Pardew said he has a good relationship with Ba and that NUFC are vulnerable to losing him for 7m. Apparently that little clause is still active.

    But hopefully last season didn’t go to Ba’s head. FFS you’d figure with a fellow Senegal player they would be more content


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