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Demba Ba Saga Hardly Shows Agents In Good Light

9:42 am, Thursday, September 20th, 2012 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 36 Comments

With the news today that Demba Ba’s release clause kicks in again in the upcoming January transfer window, and that news is coming directly from Alan Pardew himself, it’s clear why his agents made such a fuss of him being benched on Monday night at Everton.

Alan Pardew – talking to the press yesterday in Madeira

That’s because they seem to again be preparing the way for him to potentially leave Newcastle in the January transfer window, and they will of course get a big pay-day themselves.

That release clause was revealed by Harry Redknapp last January,  and we had to go through all kinds of stuff during the summer months until August 1st came around, when it was deactivated – but we all thought that was it – it was deactivated for good.

But that’s not the case, and why did Newcastle agree to such a deal in the first place when we signed the striker as a free agent in the summer of last year? If he stays in January will it become active again in the summer?

It’s already cased all kinds of strife with Newcastle fans, and we have to go through all that stuff again in January – oh no!

I must have aged 10 years in the summer with all this stuff going on, and that’s not good at my age. :D

Alan Pardew said that he had a talk with Demba Ba before he left Newcastle yesterday for Madeira, and let the player know he was not happy at all with the comments made by his agents or by Ba himself.

The public comments seemed to be a blatant attempt to try to sway his selection choice, and that’s unacceptable,  and we know Alan doesn’t stand any nonsense from his players – and we know he doesn’t much like a number of the (greedy) agents  currently in the game.

They seemed to cause him and Newcastle grief in the final weeks of the summer transfer window, which he commented on earlier this month.

When you are a professional footballer, being left out of the team now and again is part of the job – and long gone are the days when a player starts every single game in a season.

We had reported that Alan was livid yesterday, and this was coming directly from the manager himself, and it seems the outburst by his agents revealed some existing tension between them, Demba Ba, Alan Pardew and other Tyneside club officials.

The potentially good news is that Ba’s wage demands are said to be ridiculously high, and it could be based on what Andy Carroll is getting at Liverpool, which is anywhere from £75K to £100K a week, but Ba’s demands are also scaring away other clubs, according to the Daily Mail today.

But there’s a definite link being reported with Arsenal, but whether they would be ready to pay those wages is a little doubtful to us.

Arsenal run a a fairly tight financial ship in London, and have wage limits and the like, but other clubs like Manchester City, QPR and PSG are clubs who could be ready to pay out ridiculous wages – they’ve done that in the past.

It’s really disappointing news today – and to think we have to go through all this stuff again until the end of January is ridiculous.

What do you think?

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36 responses so far ↓

  • 1 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 20, 2012 at 9:52 AM

    Yeah, there’s definitely omething going on, the pair of them are listless, no one comes in for Ba, he wants 100,000 quid a week, Pards drops him and he responds with two goals. All of this unforseen, no wonder Pards is totally grey.

  • 2 geoff777 // Sep 20, 2012 at 9:53 AM

    Perhaps everyone needs to stop examining the minucia surrounding the club.

    Turn up an hour before the match for the team news and build-up and enjoy the game.

    Seriously, following all the rumours and lies in the press or emotional rants on Twitter isn’t a healthy pass-time.

  • 3 TOONALE // Sep 20, 2012 at 9:53 AM

    Tell Ba the second word is OFF.

  • 4 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 20, 2012 at 10:04 AM

    Actually the Demba Ba saga hardly shows him in a good light the more I think about it.

    He must have little sense of the club he plays for. We have literally resurrected and redeemed ourselves as a club in recent times, a club seminal to the community and he seems only to be interested in himself. If that’s the case it’s morally reprehensible.

    Ok, strong post, but it’s a perspective.

  • 5 davybtoon // Sep 20, 2012 at 10:11 AM

    Not suprised to see the press n Nufc fans making a mountain out of a mole hill over this ba thing total bloody drama queens

    Ba can go if he wants to n then see how happy he is when he is on the bench more than playing at a bigger club

  • 6 yorkymag // Sep 20, 2012 at 10:15 AM

    At least if he wants to go we will get 10 good weeks out of him as he tries to impress future employees.
    He is a good player,not great but he or is agents are a disruptive influence and that is not needed in the long term .
    I still need to be convinced that he can hold down a regular place at a bigger side than NUFC, I really question his ambition ie.twenty grand extra a week to warm a bench in north London or play in front of the gallowgate more often than not.
    And don’t forget his knee is a ticking time bomb to boot
    We can do much better in my view good ridance

  • 7 Ian Toon // Sep 20, 2012 at 10:20 AM

    Pardew speaking to the press in Funchal, Madeira has said that Ba is in talks with the club over his contract . He said that Ba wants to extend a deal that’s in it’s penultimate year. Pardew stressed that the
    club will not make the mistake of past regimes and break a financial model which is based on self sufficiency. Rumours on team :
    Harper, Perch, Taylor, Williamson, Tavernier, Obertan , Anita, Bigi,
    Marv, Vuckic, Shola. 4-4-1-1.

  • 8 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 20, 2012 at 10:21 AM

    Well, it’s hardly a molehill if it’s true, and i agree no one is bigger than the club, problem is he’s a good player and we need him, at least until January, and there’s a lot of points to be won and lost between now and then.

  • 9 Whoarya.com // Sep 20, 2012 at 10:25 AM

    Ba Ba Demba Ba will you score a goal?

    Yes sir yes sir three bags full

    One for the gaffer and one for the team and one for all the fans that come to the game.

    If he scores heaps he will stay and if he doesn’t who cares?

  • 10 pawl250 // Sep 20, 2012 at 10:25 AM

    I dont think Ba will be off in the January window. I would be suprised, I think its his agent trying to engineer a move for their own gain, not Dembas.

    I said this would happen though if big/key players start missing games, it was a very odd managerial decision for me playing Cisse as a lone striker. Especially against Distin and Jagielka, both physical and good in the air. I feel a lone striker option would have been better suited to Ba for the Everton game. Personally I cant see why both dont play together as all this “they cant play together” is nonesense! They played together half of last season and we finished 5th, it hardly affected form.

    Here is an interesting bit of knowledge from someone I know. Please dont ask who as I dont wish them to get in trouble. Our wages have DOUBLED in the last year! Thats right we were paying 30m in wages, now 60m! This seems to be because players like Cabaye etc. that joined last year came in on low wages. The person I know believes this is due to appearances leading to a revised amount at the end of a 1st season.

    This is what I have been told, I share it but you need not read it or accept it. As far as I know this is true, it may not be but I would be surprised if it wasnt. I also knew about Ba release clause NOT ending. Its not the news I wanted to spread around though.

  • 11 check the toastie // Sep 20, 2012 at 10:26 AM

    Is Pardew that thick that when he opens his mouth honestly about Ba’s contract, devious dick journalists will twist it and cause trouble with stupid sensational headlines.

    Players read papers and are daft enough to believe it, i swear Pardew wants him sold, its the only way he will get money to spend, currently ran out of Carroll money.

    Wonder which player after Ba, gets the Pardew media treatment, Ben Arfa maybe Cabaye, heads turned, dont want to keep unhappy players, market value, wage structure, blah blah blah, sometimes i wonder what his motives are.

  • 12 magpie6699 // Sep 20, 2012 at 10:26 AM

    I’m not sure how much of this is fact and how much has been added to. I’m sure Ba is not happy when he’s dropped or substituted – who would be? But that’s a far cry from making a threat to leave. What gets me is the whole business of agents who only see opportunities for money – for themselves – and come out with stuff that may be at the very least an exaggeration of their client’s input.
    Remember the Saylor’s dad business a few years ago? It boils down to whether a player wants to play for the club. If Ba realises he’s playing for a good club with massive fan support and in Europe, he won’t want to go. After all, where would he go? Don’t say Man U or Barcelona etc – if his beef is about being on the bench sometimes, no point going there! And if it’s a club that would always pick him – say QPR, Villa – well, let him go then and see if he prefers it.

  • 13 check the toastie // Sep 20, 2012 at 10:28 AM

    Ian – wouldnt play Saylor, wrap him up in cotton wool i say. would be a major mistake if he got an injury and missed some PL games.

  • 14 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 20, 2012 at 10:29 AM

    Hullmag
    I think agents are scum tbh there just leaches who latch on to a pay day and then ride that player to a bigger pay day every window they should do what there actually paid to do look out for the players best intrest not theres, also keep there mouths shut there agents not PR’s

  • 15 HullMag6 // Sep 20, 2012 at 10:29 AM

    Deal with arsenal, swap for giroud. He might play better for us, with cabs etc

  • 16 Tsunki // Sep 20, 2012 at 10:31 AM

    Even if true its nothing out of the ordinary. Agaents and players have every right to pay hardball if nufc do. We could see a happy-again Ba in a couple of months and all this will be history. Or he will decide that he is limited time span material and shoot for a bigger wage, can’t blame him there. Only problem I will have is if this upsets the team spirit because that can turn a top 5 team into a bottom 5.

  • 17 jayjo // Sep 20, 2012 at 10:32 AM

    Agents wont go away !!!!
    Get rid of BA in Jan ,.No player is worth 100k a year and if we did that we would fall back into the bad old days off paying over the odds

    4 33
    Cisse
    Guiti and a left winger
    Benni
    Cabaye tiote
    Simmo Saylor colla santon
    Krull

  • 18 NUFC_LEAZES END // Sep 20, 2012 at 10:32 AM

    I’m officially pissed off with Ba being a grumpy greedy b*****d now like. I’m gonna boo him on Sunday, he deserves it.

  • 19 jayjo // Sep 20, 2012 at 10:33 AM

    Away play 44 11 benni behind Cisse

  • 20 jesperfuglsang // Sep 20, 2012 at 10:34 AM

    Ian…where the lineup rumor coming from? just curious :D

  • 21 numba9 // Sep 20, 2012 at 10:35 AM

    Pards only wants to keep himself in a job and that means by being mediocre and being a salesman 4 fatman scoop. He doesn’t want to build on success by signing what we need just keep the supply chain to other clubs going and a pat on the back from the gaffer

  • 22 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 20, 2012 at 10:35 AM

    Maybe it’s a cultural thing, perhaps his agent is just a loose canon and Demba doesn’t know how to rein him in or can’t get rid of him.

    I don’t know, the agent say’s one thing, Demba say’s another, bizarre.

  • 23 jayjo // Sep 20, 2012 at 10:36 AM

    We could spend 10 mill in Jan and buy a defender and a couple of winger easy

  • 24 jayjo // Sep 20, 2012 at 10:37 AM

    numba9 cant believe your still slagging the chairman , CANT YOU SEE how much better the club is run , CANT YOU SEE that we have a better , younger team without over priced ego’s CANT YOU SEE that Pards has done a good job …MANAGER OF THE YEAR

  • 25 pawl250 // Sep 20, 2012 at 10:41 AM

    Ba is currently on 60k after his revised contract was activated. He used to be on 35k and 25k appearance bonus.

    I wouldnt pay him 100k a week, and the clubs that could pay that wouldnt want to risk paying him that too. I mean he has the career threatening injury why would you pay someone 100k a week, should he get injured its a alot of money to pay for not playing.

  • 26 jayjo // Sep 20, 2012 at 10:44 AM

    Nobody came for BA in the whole of the summer , Even Everton wasnt prepared to pay the Salary , wOULD ARSENAL PAY £100K …. No way …they wouldnt pay Van Persie £130 a proven World class player …. CHELSEA play in a different way , Mancs one up front ant thats van persie and CITY not a chance , Spurs one up front …. An why leave to go elsewhere if not the above teams BA is in dreamland ….

  • 27 davybtoon // Sep 20, 2012 at 10:45 AM

    Why are u lot having a go at pardew jus bcoz he has mentioned this release clause thing so he’s jus getting in there first bcoz u kno that’s what was coming next from ba agent,

    N he’s basically saying to ba right your not happy well am gonna let everyone kno your available n leave if u ain’t happy n I back pards 100% over this

  • 28 jayjo // Sep 20, 2012 at 10:46 AM

    Next 5 league games

    3 point from Norwich , 3 points @ Reading , 1 point from Mancs , 3 points @ Sunderland as always lol , 3 points from West Brom 18 points after 9 games

  • 29 martoon // Sep 20, 2012 at 10:49 AM

    NUFC_LEAZES END – call yourself a supporter? booing one of our players. These are all rumours – none of us know the truth as yet.

  • 30 LGFUAD21 // Sep 20, 2012 at 10:51 AM

    This may be sensationalism but heres my speculation.

    Ba’s agent seems a bit if a mercenary. He got the clause into West Ham’s contract with Ba. He wants Ba to move for monetary reasons.

    What I can say is that Arsenal’s wage ceiling is not much higher than ours. I was shocked to learn how little relative to top teams they pay.

    But from Ba’s perspective why would he go there, hypothetically?
    With the form Podolski is in. and I really believe Giroud will come good, he just neds to build a relationship wit those around him. Gervinho is in form too and Wenger is trying to convert him into a striker. Ba would not get any more games there and barely higher wages.

    But Ba has seemed to have fallen out of favour with the Senegalese national squad and is probably panicking a bit.

    Problem is that we have players who have little experience of playing in Europe but are advanced enough to have the big dogs sniffing around. I assumed at the time Ba was being rested by Pardew for tonight’s game. But he needs to understand that he is likely to play as much as last season but that doesnt mean every game.

  • 31 jayjo // Sep 20, 2012 at 10:51 AM

    davybtoon …. Exactly its the player /…. Pards calling his bluff he didnt go in the summer and im sure as shit i am not fretting him leaving in January

  • 32 deeeeeeano // Sep 20, 2012 at 11:05 AM

    After the match ba never said anything out of the ordinary and hasn’t been quoted saying he’s pissed off so why are everyone getting on his back?? It’s one tweet off his agent, for all we know ba has went offit at him and it’s all shite

  • 33 deeeeeeano // Sep 20, 2012 at 11:06 AM

    After the match ba never said anything out of the ordinary and hasn’t been quoted saying he’s pissed off so why are everyone getting on his back?? It’s one tweet off his agent, for all we know ba has went offit at him and it’s all shoyte

  • 34 numba9 // Sep 20, 2012 at 1:45 PM

    Jayjo I agree the wages and big wages have been cut and have a added spirit but should b backing manager of year much better than 3 mill or else ambition wil drive players away

  • 35 veto // Sep 20, 2012 at 2:24 PM

    why would padrew announce to the world the clause was still active ? i cant understand it , it was not common knowledge that the clause would still be active so why bring it up in the national newspapers ?

    padrew needs to have a quiet word with himself i think never mind Ba

  • 36 Ericles // Sep 20, 2012 at 5:25 PM

    Here we go again with the selfish I want some cash from an agent seeking a deal for Ba. Once again an agent seems to be trying to manipulate a player he represents for his own benefit. I am no singing deective but am I right or am I not? It seems Ba may be contributing to this situation. Please Alan tell him he is part of a squad and that means a team sheet of eleven players seven subs and that he has to fit in with that scenario for the benefit of winning a game and serving the club, his team mates, his background staff and, above all the fans! If that is not good enough then it has to be Ba Ba to him in January.




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