Former Top Striker’s Advice To Ba – Stay With Newcastle

Patrick Kluivert was one of those who was over the hill when Newcastle Chairman Fredddy Shepherd brought him into the club in the summer of 2004 on a one year deal, that was very lucrative for the striker but nor for Newcastle, and the news at the time was that then manager Bobby Robson didn’t even know the former great Netherlands striker was even coming to Tyneside.

Partrick Kluivert at Newcastle in late 2004
That strip is not unlike the one we have today – mostly white

But that all ended for Bobby in late August of 2004, after a 4-2 loss at Aston Villa, when he had started Kluivert in place of Alan Shearer, and after a so-so start to the season (2 draws in our first four league games), Freddy Shepherd sacked the great one.

Patrick has come out today and told BBC Sport that Demba Ba should stay at Newcastle, but only for this season and maybe look for another club in the summer.

Not exactly what we wanted to hear, but we suppose it’s better than saying he should leave Newcastle as soon as he can in January.

This is what the former Netherlands’ great had to say today:

“Stick with your club and, if you do well for another year, you can look to another club.” “Ba did a great job and scored a lot of great goals last year. It is very easy to say after he had a good year with Newcastle that he wants to leave.”

“He’s a great striker and I bet a lot of clubs want him and that’s probably why his agent said that.” “I think Pardew knows another big club are after his player so for a manager at Newcastle, it’s not an easy job.”

“He has to convince the player that he is a very important for the team and not to say directly that he wants to leave.” “It’s not a good thing for a manager to say that in public.”

Even though Kluivert was well past his best when he arrived at Newcastle, although he had only just turned 28 in July of 2004, and still managed to score 13 goals in 37 appearances for the side in that one season on Tyneside – which is not too bad a record.

And in his career – he was a fantastic striker when he was younger – he still manged 200 goals in 468 total appearances in his career, which he started at Ajax, and played for Milan and Barcelona before arriving on Tyneside.

After leaving Newcastle he went on to play for Valencia, PSV and Lille, but he was only half the player he was later in his career.

His faltering career as he go older is not unlike that of Michael Owen, who become half the player he used to be in his mid to late 20s.

At Ajax Kluivert hit 50 goals in 97 appearances and while at Barca he scored 120 goals in 255 appearances.

We hope Demba Ba stays on Tyneside, but not only that, but we are hoping he can sign a new deal at Newcastle before January – and put an end to all the speculation about him leaving the club.

What do you think?

Here’s Demba’s twitter account if you want to ask him to stay.

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11 comments so far

  • bollance

    Sep 21, 2012 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #1


    Classic example of a box office star on big cash and not performing for the toon.

  • voodoo85

    Sep 21, 2012 at 10:12 AM

    Comment #2

    Him and Ruud Van Nitelrooy were born on same day but you would think Kluivert was born 5 years earlier – peaked in his career earlier than Van Nistelrooy did

    Well past his best when he came here too as usual with Shepherds signings

  • cupiddstunt

    Sep 21, 2012 at 10:18 AM

    Comment #3

    From previous as Ed is too fast

    Agreed boys this young fella has such immense potential it’s incredible to think he just cost a mil.

    Although other youngsters prove that the “he will only improve“ is such a miss-statement it’s ridiculous but in reality Gael has everything in place to be a player now.

    If he never gets any better technically but just stronger with age he is already a quality DM.

    But I for one cannot see this lad falling away like some others, he already has a good read on the game, he understands he is not going to be a big lad so uses what he has so well, forethought, agility and what appears to be a very calm head.

    He is very impressive.

  • Graeme

    Sep 21, 2012 at 10:19 AM

    Comment #4

    Kluivert was the ultimate prototype for the eventual arrival of EMO. Both way overpriced and bloody useless for NUFC

    We really don’t need to see a repeat performance.

  • magpieranger

    Sep 21, 2012 at 10:22 AM

    Comment #5

    If there is any truth about the player being unhappy or wanting to double his wages then for me he can FCUK off in January. He needs to accept there will be some rotation and the fact he finds himself on the bench now and again might not be a reflection on his performances. As for playing out of position then tough, its a team game and you bite the bullet and do the best you can.

    Look at our keeper last night, not played since the cup game at Forrest but have you heard a peep from him in the mean time? Even Harper (too a certain degree) has been quite dignifide.

    It seems the club has wised up and will not be held to ransom, look the Nolan & Carroll situations. Fair play to NUFC because that attitude is now rubbing off on the fans who are also hardening to player demands. If he wants to stay then great but any mumblings about being discontent then kick him out now as its upsetting the harmony that was the foundation of the teams success last year.

  • cupiddstunt

    Sep 21, 2012 at 10:23 AM

    Comment #6

    Kluivert and his ilk would never arrive here under today’s NUFC, he is totally the wrong personality, yes he could score goals but did nothing else while on the park and that is not the requirements of todays NUFC.

    And boy am I glad of that. 🙂

  • cupiddstunt

    Sep 21, 2012 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #7

    He also had ego problems and was not a little disruptive

  • toonarmydownsouth

    Sep 21, 2012 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #8

    Completly agree, i know ppl get frustrated that we dont see more of other youngsters like abied and vuckic, but for me this is why, a full seasons experience in a very combative and competitive league thats why i think hes ahead of vuckic and abied these boys need a stint on loan!
    But yeah bigi is an outstanding player remember my mate telling me about him last season he was know as the champinships essien!

    Anyone remember when we had to delay a europa league match whike this tart kluivert looked for his earring that he lost during warm ups?

  • jimmymagpie

    Sep 21, 2012 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #9

    TDS – agree with you 100% about the likes of Vuckic and Abeid, although in the case of the former, I just can’t see it, too slow in thought and movement for me. As I said after his performance in the Villa game, Bigi stands out like a sore thumb amongst our fringe players, and makes the likes of Vuckic, Gosling, and Amalfitano, look very ordinary. I really don’t know what we saw in Amalfitano. He’s no kid now, and is another slow, lightweight in my opinion. What you have to remember isthat English football is an awful lot quicker than the French game, but they can adapt if they have pace in the first place, a la Ginola and Robert, but this fellow doesn’t seem to have any. I must admit to being one of Elliott’s fiercest critics, after seeing a few of his displays in the Reserves, but I hold my hands up, he did very well last night.

  • jamesnufc86

    Sep 21, 2012 at 1:06 PM

    Comment #10

    Why is it that the majority of people are not that upset about the prospect of Ba leaving? If it was Afra, Tiote or Cabaye everyone’s knickers would be in a twist. The fact is that most people feels that Ba is replaceable, plus all the negative energy Ba seems to carry about, even when he scored both goals at everton he just looked like he was still sulking. My opinion is that Demba Ba is not good enough to have a team like NUFC built around, he can go to west ham , Fulham or even somewhere like everton if he wants that , but not NUFC

  • 89Norcal

    Sep 22, 2012 at 1:21 AM

    Comment #11

    Sorry Patrick, but Newcastle are not a stepping atone for anyone. we should be mixing it up with the big boys like we have done for years.

    hopefully back ignores your “advice”


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