There was news yesterday that Newcastle will go back in for Mathieu Debuchy in the January transfer window, and we wouldn’t be at all surprised if that happens, but why Newcastle couldn’t have done the deal in the summer is hard to fathom.
Mathieu Debuchy – likely to join Newcastle in January
Newcastle have been interested in the French international full-back all year, and of course he’s a big pal of Newcastle midfielder Yohan Cabaye, and it would seem he would fit right in on Tyneside, with all the French players already on Tyneside.
Newcastle were unwilling to pay the asking price to Lille for the fullback, and that led to Newcastle bringing in only one first team player in the summer – Vurnon Anita – and we paid out £6.6M to get him from Ajax, and the lad looks a good player who is versatile, and can play in many different positions.
The only potential small problem with the deal could be Mathieu’s age, as he turned 27 last July, but he should still have many years left at the top of his game.
The really new news in all of this, is that apparently Newcastle are now receiving positive signs from his club Lille that they are now willing to do a deal, since it’s clear they have an unhappy player on their books, and one who has served them well since way back in 2004.
Mathieu is still said to be very keen to come to Newcastle, and he could well get that opportunity in early January.
What do you think?
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70 responses so far ↓
1 Kyo // Sep 25, 2012 at 1:01 AM
Would be amazing if it happened, but after the torturous saga in the summer I’m not going to get my hopes up
2 CisseSomething // Sep 25, 2012 at 1:02 AM
I’ll believe it when I see it.
3 AmericanMagpie // Sep 25, 2012 at 1:11 AM
Hes a 79 on FIFA. Im definitely buying him.
4 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 25, 2012 at 2:12 AM
It’s not his dream move, it’s mine.
But I’ve had my heartbroken once too often by this young man, so from now I’m determined to keep my feet planted firmly on the ground.
But just imagine a fullback pairing of Debuchy and Santon, with Anita as cover.
Be still my beating heart!
5 Mister Tuff // Sep 25, 2012 at 2:55 AM
I think we will be back for Debuchy -I hope we get him. I bet we will submit a reduced fee to what was allegedly offered in the summer. Then a commanding centre half -to go straight into the first team. I will be somewhat happier than I am now. We’ve picked up some points without playing very well – they say it’s a good sign if you play poorly but still get a few points. Football is a game which produces differing opinions from those within the game and supporters -predictions and opinions seem to fuel the game which adds to the excitement/expectations. I read some posts on here, some of which I agree with but there are some posts where I wonder if we are talking about the same players, who I think are not particularly good and will never “mature” into being top class performers even if they had ten years to try – but opinions although differing add to the excitement. I think that Pardew is obviously going to use the cup games to try out potential replacements/recruits for first team games and will be prepared to write off success in these competitions in order to progress in the league. Getting Collocini and Mr T back should have a positive effect.
6 stunna // Sep 25, 2012 at 3:17 AM
I’d like to get him, but at 27 he probably won’t have much sell on value. I can’t see us paying more than £3m for him.
7 spitfire_ // Sep 25, 2012 at 3:31 AM
So while our ghost chasing in the summer was on progress Cissokho, Clyne and van der Wiel changed there clubs and each one of them costs less than Debuchy… no we didn’t move like horse with blinders at all… and obviously we made the same stupid mistake to try to buy players from teams which we already fckued by one way or another… splendid.
8 spitfire_ // Sep 25, 2012 at 3:35 AM
Actually van der Wiel’s price can be a little bit on top on Debuchy’s but this change nothing. If you want quality you should pay… can’t count only on transfers like Tiote’s or Cabaye’s which was the robbery of the decade.
9 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 25, 2012 at 3:55 AM
I hope we’re in with an offer that represents a fair value for a good player with real credentials.
You gamble on an unknown you get on the cheap, and he comes good, that’s great business. But low balling for established performers leaves a bad taste or is just plain opportunistic.
Age is not a factor here, we’ve been after this player for the best part of a year and he will slot straight into the team and make an immediate impact.
10 Toon73 // Sep 25, 2012 at 5:53 AM
Please don’t tell me we have another 3 months of Debuchy transfer talk.
I’m still recovering from 4 weeks ago :I
11 jesperfuglsang // Sep 25, 2012 at 6:02 AM
Morning lads!
It seems Ed is putting out new threads late a nite (for us that is) these days
Transfer speculation and contract talk seems to the the topic – if you find that news it either running slow or you need a change of topic deel free to do yesterdays music questionnaire
The topic was “the Cooper Temple Clause” B-)
Disclaimer: the questionnaire can be found under yesterdays early morning thread
12 Grafton83 // Sep 25, 2012 at 7:16 AM
I thought the main problem was the price kept changing amid mysteriously absent offers from inter and real madrid.
Perhaps if the price stays the same this time we’ll get our man but I have to say I don’t trust Lille, they’re president seems to have some funny ideas sometimes. I can’t believe they’re only just realising now that they have an unhappy player on there books.
Like everyone else who expected this signing in the summer I’m not getting sucked into this one again, it was too painful to follow it all summer.
13 obatoyou // Sep 25, 2012 at 7:27 AM
Morning’ means little Jesper we r all in different parts of the world!
14 jesperfuglsang // Sep 25, 2012 at 7:39 AM
Oba… I can only speak for myself, which I did! …and I was merely trying to point out Ed was 6-7 hours away from most of us.
I didn’t think a disclaimer was needed ;D
15 darrenfletcher88 // Sep 25, 2012 at 7:41 AM
Crap crap crap story!!!
16 beefman13 // Sep 25, 2012 at 8:06 AM
MA, has a way of doing buiness which has seen him become maybe one of the top 5 in the country, he has transfered that business acumen to running a football club, many a so called expert ie alan sugar said you cant run a football club business fashion, but for me its the way forward, MA wont get done over on a price, yes 2 million extra would have maybe secured the deal with debuchy but as weknow sedoux added that on, we offered the original price in the end.
He will stick to his business philosophy and beacuse we have the scouting setup we can continue go bring in really vood players at bargain prices ie tiote, cabaye, anita, mr magic ben arfa, santon, marveaux, bigi, amilatitano, etc etc.
We have progressed every season of the last three, we are getting stronger and stronger imo
Let the fella in charge run the club as he sees fit, we have a formula that is working for me the stick he got over the debuchy saga was totally uncalled for.
We have 5 players who can play right back, simpson, perch, anita, raylor, santon, saylor two of them may be out but were not at the time of the debuchy trials.
There is areason why a perzon has 2 billion and most others have not got two pennys go rub together.
And it isa bit of a defensive post on behalf of the owner, but for me apart from ground renaming, we are well ahead of the game and havnt put afoot wrong in nearly 4 years. I really believe that.
17 Tsunki // Sep 25, 2012 at 8:07 AM
Darren – crap crap crap post.
Anyone who says they won’t get drawn into another Debuchy transfer saga is kidding themselves ha ha you will, trust me.
27 is not too old for a back line man its tthe optimum age, sell on value in 3 years would still be good, especially if he made an impression in a succesful Newcastle side.
This is a realistic proposal, the Jan window will probably see the continuing hardball between Mike and the Lille moneymen, but if we do go back in, I think we will end up getting him.
18 Ian Toon // Sep 25, 2012 at 8:31 AM
Jesper- hiya. Good morning. What’s with the little Jesper line-
LOL. As you know I have a mental picture of the key posters on here.
Your Chiek Tiote a warrior and a man of gentle modesty. One of the
main reasons to come on here before kicking off your day is the total lack of fake hostility. Even with Tiote and Colo rumoured to be playing tomorrow it is still a bit rich to charge £45 @ Old Trafford.
19 Slank // Sep 25, 2012 at 8:32 AM
Tsunki @ 17
‘…27 is not too old for a back line man its tthe optimum age..’
Leighton Baines and Glen Johnson are older than Debuchy and if they are good enough for England then Debuchy is well worth the value for us.
20 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 25, 2012 at 8:41 AM
Hola!
Who is the Debuchy lad? Anyone seen him play?
21 Ian Toon // Sep 25, 2012 at 8:43 AM
Beef- how about having a spare £ 2 billion through inherited wealth-
us plebs might only have loose change. He who pays the piper calls the tune. I am a supporter of NUFC owners come and go but this one
has a plan which I understand and aside from the re-naming of venue
largely shows good commercial sense. One major area of criticism is on PR side where Pardew is often left in the lurch.
22 tequilamag // Sep 25, 2012 at 8:47 AM
Yawn, read this story yesterday. No quoted sources just lazy journos making stuff up.
23 Ian Toon // Sep 25, 2012 at 8:47 AM
Slink- Good enough for England.! Hardly a good example with so many over the top old codgers still playing or on the fringes. Plus there is a being English premium which clouds the argument.
24 Ian Toon // Sep 25, 2012 at 8:48 AM
Sorry Slank
25 Krul to be Kind // Sep 25, 2012 at 8:48 AM
@ Ian
He who pays the piper, calls the tune…
beautiful analogy (clap,clap)!!! lol
26 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Sep 25, 2012 at 8:50 AM
Anyone seen that shearer is favourite to take over at Blackburn if (when) Kean gets the sack? I think the sooner he gets into management the better. He’s wasted on Motd.
27 Tsunki // Sep 25, 2012 at 8:50 AM
Baines has never looked better, as a defender that is, the betty boop hairstyle is still a bit worrying.
Ibiza – Debuchy is like the Danny Simpson of Ligue 1.
28 Ian Toon // Sep 25, 2012 at 8:52 AM
Ibiza- hello and good bye.
29 Slank // Sep 25, 2012 at 8:52 AM
Ian @ 23
Are you saying that Leighton Baines and Glen Johnson are not good?
I would have them in our team anyday. They are far superior to Santon and Simpson.
30 Slank // Sep 25, 2012 at 8:54 AM
Conaldo @ 26
Yeh, MOTD is too good for Shearer.
31 Ian Toon // Sep 25, 2012 at 8:56 AM
Slank- I have to go. But their not as good as Debuchy. Baines is highly rated by many I know but not by me. My point was there will be resale value but not as with a comparable English player because of the premium. Johnson is a joke.
32 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 25, 2012 at 8:57 AM
Ian…Have a good one.
Tsunki…Oh dear, that just raises more questions that it answers
33 Ian Toon // Sep 25, 2012 at 8:58 AM
Santon is only 21 and within a season( injuries aside) will be what you perceive Baines has now. Enjoy your day- cheers.
34 beefman13 // Sep 25, 2012 at 9:00 AM
Ian/Krul, ive always said you put your money down you make your choices.
To be fair most on here telling him what to do have critised him every seaon he has been here.
The first two were of course not to clever but a plan was put inplace after that and we have surged forward, well ahead of just about everyones expectations.
You cant always get what you want as mick jagger said! But the players we have brought in are terrific, and some great youngins ie krul fergie campbell vucic sammy etc.
Hey its not to bad at the cathederal is it!
35 Krul to be Kind // Sep 25, 2012 at 9:00 AM
I really don’t think Debuchy is an upgrade on what we have atm, if simmo sees out this year and Tav continues to develop we will do ok + between Perch, Anita and Tav we have adequate cover with potential for further development. I would personally like to see Santon deployed on the right because it is his cutting in from the left that leaves us exposed resulting in Jonas covering, I’m all for interchanging throughout a game but with Santon’s reluctance to cross with his left peg and Jonas who can’t cross is doing a disservice to Cisse.
Regarding Cisse – he needs service and cutting in from wide everytime means he is getting crowded out, his off the ball movement is second to none imo, so we should play the wings more if we want him banging them in!
36 jesperfuglsang // Sep 25, 2012 at 9:04 AM
Ian…if you are still there
(seems we’re in here a different times these days)!
…I just hope he meant mornings means little and that he didn’t call me little Jesper
lol
NB: Debuchy who?
37 Krul to be Kind // Sep 25, 2012 at 9:05 AM
on a side note… do we really want a player who throws his toys out of the pram when he doesn’t get what he wants, when Anita was being chased he acted like a true professional for eg, Debuchy for me has been a little too outspoken, holding his club to ransom and not performing well since move fell through, he might just have shown his true colours!
38 Krul to be Kind // Sep 25, 2012 at 9:09 AM
God morgen lille Jesper! lol
39 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 25, 2012 at 9:10 AM
Do you prefer big Jesper?
Krul is getting on us on a stones tangents this morning…..will someone take bait? Certainly not me, I’m here to talk football. This is a blog that I come to, to gimme shelter. I used to be a street fighting man, but that gave me no satisfaction. So mothers little helper has me under her thumb, so hey, get off of my…blog?
Yeah, i’m going back to bed.
40 jesperfuglsang // Sep 25, 2012 at 9:12 AM
Krul…see how easy someone can ruin the good image one have of someone else
lol
…nice danish by the way
41 Krul to be Kind // Sep 25, 2012 at 9:14 AM
Jesper/Ibiza… I’m a lover not a fighter… I come in peace to serve gods will!
42 solano // Sep 25, 2012 at 9:14 AM
The 2nd Virgin instalment becomes available in January and Debuchy is defo on the radar…he was desperate to join in the summer to join his good friend Cabaye but the fee shenanigans went tit for tat and the plug was pulled. What remains to be seen, is our position in the league and whether we are as an attractive proposition as we seemed in August – that may well be dependent on how Cabaye sees our progress.
For me, we may have been better to move onto another of Super Guru Carr’s recommendations if we weren’t willing to pay the extra £1m…but this is the gamble the regime love to take….and there’ll be no real “capital outlay” because of the sponsor donation.
Just 3 months + to wait and endless Debuchy threads to negotiate
43 jesperfuglsang // Sep 25, 2012 at 9:19 AM
Ibiza…we need to have a talk about your resent alcohol consumption ;D lol
…how did it go with the unwashed bikini girl?
44 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 25, 2012 at 9:21 AM
Solano…Good to see you’re as giddy with anticipation and excitement as I. I kind of wish the Debuchy stories hadn’t gone away at all. Been a tough couple of weeks without them tbh.
I have always thought we’ll be bringing in players in January, if not, I shall join you in the trenches. You do represent the peoples front of Judea, right?
45 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 25, 2012 at 9:22 AM
Krul….Love, love, love, love is all we need.
Jesper…I think we may indeed. Shall we fast track it? Yes, I’ll stop drinking so much. There, that was easy. You’ve managed to morph them in to one girl…wait a second, let me ponder that idea for a minute of two…..
46 solano // Sep 25, 2012 at 9:24 AM
Ibiza…tough couple of weeks? trenches?
You should try watching some matches, mate
47 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 25, 2012 at 9:25 AM
Solano….Sound advice. I need to try something.
To Cisses goal drought I go!!!
48 mickg108 // Sep 25, 2012 at 9:25 AM
Krul To Be Kind,,I remember a certain Hatem Ben Arfa ,going on strike to get a move,,so we shouldn’t have signed that twat aye ??..
49 solano // Sep 25, 2012 at 9:26 AM
Leaders of the Arbitrary Orchestra should at least know the music.
50 Krul to be Kind // Sep 25, 2012 at 9:26 AM
I relly really really would love it if we could snap up this youngster
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/henri-saivet/profil/spieler_51540.html
51 jesperfuglsang // Sep 25, 2012 at 9:29 AM
Ibiza….it’s all about presentation and “unwashed bikini girl” just have a nicer ring to it don’t you think
lol
…so when is your “tour de chambre” over? Ed has me doing all your work, since you’re not here full time anymore…
52 Krul to be Kind // Sep 25, 2012 at 9:30 AM
Mick
ben Arfa and tw@ in same sentence… shame on you, there was a five year age difference and he was unhappy at Marseille for some time… we didn’t unsettle him… he wanted out because of a difference in opinion to Deschamps and they wanted to sell him (not for £5m mind), more justifiable
53 Slank // Sep 25, 2012 at 9:32 AM
Krul @ 35
As good as Santon is (and he is so much better than last year) but I have never favoured a right footed left back because of what you rightly say. The situation is made worse by Jonas being right footed.
Whilst they are encouraged to get to the byline and whip in a ball it’s not their natural choice as they much prefer to cut inside.
54 jesperfuglsang // Sep 25, 2012 at 9:32 AM
Krul…Saivet isn’t he a promising younster who never fullfilled his potential??? …or have I missed something
55 Krul to be Kind // Sep 25, 2012 at 9:36 AM
he is still only 21 Jesper, years away from full potential, and what better place is there to come and fulfil true potential than SJP!
56 jesperfuglsang // Sep 25, 2012 at 9:39 AM
Krul…maybe we could swap Saivet for Obertan
57 NUFCWill1986 // Sep 25, 2012 at 9:44 AM
Glenn Johnson is shit. He cannot defend.
58 Krul to be Kind // Sep 25, 2012 at 9:49 AM
I do think (hope) Obertan will come good at some time, would love to see him out on loan for a while to get some confidence, his confidence seems as strong as a chocolate teapot, he did make his name at Bordeaux as a blistering paced goal scoring wide front man, he may well be more suited to the 433 everyone harps on about
59 jesperfuglsang // Sep 25, 2012 at 9:53 AM
Saivet and Obertan plays the same position right?
…I have my doubts that Obertan will prove his critics wrong anytime soon, but as long as he’s a NUFC player I’ll support him either way
60 Krul to be Kind // Sep 25, 2012 at 9:54 AM
here here Jesper… Love is blind
61 Krul to be Kind // Sep 25, 2012 at 9:56 AM
although he does have a head only a mother could love! lol
62 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 25, 2012 at 9:59 AM
I’m an Ashley fan for very obvious reasons, but even so, isn’t there a difference between a well run business and a well run football club. Clearly MA is a highly astute business man, but I don’t think the bottom line should just be about money at a club like NUFC, which in many ways is the heartbeat of the region and a focal point for the geordie diaspora.
Ashley preferred to hold fast rather than back his fine young manager or give back a little more to the fans and the city. We’re talking about a few million quid that wouldn’t compromise the business model.
63 jesperfuglsang // Sep 25, 2012 at 10:01 AM
Krul…if our first team wasn’t as thin as it is of quality I would agree Obertan should go out on loan…hi I would even loan out Gos, Vuckic, Abeid, Tav and Fergy.
A season long loan to another Championship club is how you develope the next Wilshere or Cleverley if you ask me
64 Krul to be Kind // Sep 25, 2012 at 10:09 AM
I absolutely agree, even if we sent him out for a month, 1 step back 2 steps forward and all that
65 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 25, 2012 at 10:10 AM
Hey guys…Stop living in the past. We’re two threads in to the future…come on, join the party.
66 wynsleap // Sep 25, 2012 at 10:36 AM
Coronation Street, The Middle East problems and the Mouse Trap are the only things I can think of that have been running as long as this Debuchy saga.
Sorry – I forgot the debate among the fans as to how good Shola really is.
67 IrishToon009 // Sep 25, 2012 at 10:39 AM
Sounds like Newcastle here, patient with purchases, done it with Cisse, not gonen give to clubs demands! Must be quite annoying for other clubs!
68 wolfshead@toon // Sep 25, 2012 at 11:24 AM
lol 73
69 shanghai fan // Sep 25, 2012 at 4:08 PM
In my opinion I’m happy we didn’t get Debuchy in the summer for these reasons
- it sounded like lille were moving the price higher after we bid
- debuchy said lille management were not keeping to their word, when they were offered similar replacements but not looking into them properly
- bearing in mind pt 2, makes pt 1 sound all the more likely
- 6.6m is a lot for a 27 yr old right back
- they now have a unhappy player on their hands, that helps us tons in getting the price down.
- we’ll probably manage till january – anita, perch, simpson
- in future other clubs will see this us a precedent and won’t take us for soft mugs when we negotiate the price – it breaks the back of the selling clubs expectations. If we don’t walk away from a deal, it will make buying players a LOT tougher in the future
-all this talk of lets throw 1 or 2 million more is really easy to say, but if it meant I could buy another bigirama with that money and have debuchy in january, i would be a much stronger and better club. bear in mind what we get for the uefa cup which is prob a lot less than 1 mill for the group stages – it’s still a lot of money, esp when we buy the value that we buy! Now I sleep!
70 Batfastard // Sep 25, 2012 at 5:13 PM
What a load of shite fat mashley would rather spend on rangers or other sports shops don’t hold ur breath for an influx of signings cause its not going to happen!
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