Manchester United 2 – Newcastle 1: Full Match Report


James Tavernier in action tonight – he had a solid game at left back

This is how we saw the game tonight at Old Trafford, when Newcastle were just a little unlucky to lose the game 2-1, and we saw some decent performances from the youngsters and fringe players at Newcastle, and this game will do them the world of good in their development.

On 14 minutes it was Dan Gosling who should have put Newcastle ahead, when he had a wonderful chance from just ix yards out, but he didn’t connect properly at all and he looped the ball high and wide – he should have done so much better.

And then a couple of minutes later it was Newcastle goalkeeper Elliot who made a wonderful diving save from Anderson, and saved newcastle again, as he had last Thursday night in Madeira.

On 35 minutes it looked like Tom Cleverly must score from 6 yards out but he amazingly put the ball wide of Elliot’s right hand post – and that was a let-off for Newcastle .

Just before half time Manchester United went ahead and it was a decent goal from Anderson, as he went through in the inside right position and moved to his left before hitting the ball with his left foot into the goal – it went in off the post, and Rob Elliot had no chance at all.

Dan Gosling was covering him but he just couldn’t get the block in, and the Brazilian slammed the ball home.

It was a terrible time for the lads to concede, after both sides had missed their chances earlier in the half.

Newcastle were 1-0 down at the break but they were in this game, and again had the impressive Rob Elliot in goal to thank for two terrific saves in that first half.

There were no changes made by either side at the start of the second half.

Chicarito had a decent chance after 49 minutes but he headed the ball wide, and then some good work by Vuckic in the penalty area, ended with the Slovenian’s  right foot shot going just wide of the post – it so easily could have been a goal.

But then after 58 minute Manchester went 2-0 up,  and it was Tom Cleverly who made up for his shocking miss in the first half, and he guided the ball home from just outside the penalty area, and he was given too much room in such a dangerous position.

After 61 minutes Pardew made a double change, and Shane Ferguson came on for Fab Coloccini and Papiss Cisse came on for Haris Vuckic.

And within a minute the two had created a goal for Newcastle,  as Ferguson made a good run down the left wing and his almost perfect cross was nicely headed in by Papiss Cisse, for his first goal of the season.

A well worked goal by Newcastle, and we need to give Ferguson more playing time – as he always looks good out on the left wing – with his direct approach.

On 71 minutes 18 year-old Gael Bigirimana came on as a direct replacement for Cheick Tiote.

And a minute later Dan Gosling had another decent chance just outside the penalty box, but he hesitated,  and finally hit the ball over the bar – he seemed to lack confidence in shooting.

Newcastle were now coming at the Manchester United side, but they would need to watch the counter-attack.

On 81 minutes is was Cisse again, who now seemed full of confidence, as he showed some amazing skill as he controlled the ball on his chest, onto his thigh and then he hit great overhead scissor kick, and the ball rebounded off the cross-bar – a let-off for the home side – and a wonderful effort from the Senegal striker – he’s back in form.

Newcastle were pressing Manchester for the equalizer and they were putting up a brave performance, and another chance fell to Dan Gosling on 87 minutes, and it was a decent chance but Dan just lobbed the ball into David de Gea’s hands.

It was a poor effort from the former Everton man – and Dan had three decent chances in this game, but didn’t take one.

It was a good chance for Dan tonight to  show what he could do, but he needs to put the ball into the back of the net when he gets chances like he got tonight, if he is to push for a first team place at Newcastle.

Newcastle were pressing Manchester, and the Red Devils started to waste time and hold the ball near the corner flag to kill off the game, and after 4 minutes of added time, during which play was stopped when an intruder came onto the pitch – the final whistle was blown.

So it was a disappointing result for sure, but a decent performance from the lads – and especially in the second half, when they showed they would just not give up, and came right at Manchester.

And Alan Pardew will take a lot of positives out of this game from some of the youngsters and the fringe players, and Newcastle gave a very good account of themselves, especially in the second half.

And the good news is Papiss Cisse got his first goal of the season, and was unlucky not to get a second, and that will give him a much-needed confidence boost for our game at Reading on Saturday – and we need to pick up all 3 points in that game.

Teams:

Manchester United (4-3-3): David de Gea; Marnick Vermijl (Ryan Tunnicliffe 77), Michael Keane, Scott Wooton, Alex Buttner (Robert Brady 86); Darren Fletcher (c), Tom Cleverley, Anderson; Danny Welbeck, Wayne Rooney (Nick Powell 77), Javier Hernandez
Subs not used: Sam Johnstone, Jonny Evams, Jesse Lingard, Joshua King

Newcastle United (4-4-1-1): Rob Elliot; James Perch, Mike Williamson, Fabricio Coloccini (c) (Shane Ferguson 61), James Tavernier; Gabriel Obertan, Cheick Tiote (Gael Bigirimana 71), Dan Gosling, Sylvain Marveaux; Haris Vuckic (Papiss Cisse 61); Shola Ameobi
Subs not used: Steve Harper, Vurnon Anita, Romain Amalfitano, Sammy Ameobi

Referee: Anthony Taylor (Manchester)

Bookings: Manchester United – none; Newcastle United – Bigirimana (90)

Attendance: 46,358

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73 comments so far

  • pawl250

    Sep 26, 2012 at 10:32 PM

    Comment #1

    5 things I took from the game tonight!

    1. Cisse scoring is the best thing that could have happened tonight! He needed that goal to take the pressure off him, let the goals commence!
    2. Williamson is slower than my Nana, who is 82 years old! She could still defend better than him too! His heading ability for his height is atrocious! He has no accuracy and when the ball lands at his feet I am in awe at how he can be our 1st back up centre back!
    3. Bigirmana – this kid will be better than Tiote!! He’s looking to be a right gem. For me I would put him on as sub EVERY game, and he would be my first choice replacement to Tiote or Cabaye should they get injured!
    4. Gosling can’t defend, but his attacking mind is excellent. If anyone recorded the match tonight he was always in the box when a ball came in or we moved up the pitch. Scenario – 10-15 mins to go we need a goal! Gosling would be our best bet, not Obertan or Sammy!
    5. Vuckic in my honest opinion will not make it. He has no presence, his passing is poor and its like time has stopped when he runs he is that slow!

    Where is Abeid?! He looked arguably one of our best young prospects during pre season!

    Also Tavernier had a good game but please do not say he is why we didn’t bring Debuchy in! He is not even in the same league! Remember this was Man Utd reserves and his attacking play was very questionable at times!

    Team for Reading

    Harper (Krul if fit)
    Anita-STaylor-Colo(Perch if not fit)-Santon
    Arfa-Cabaye-Tiote(Bigi if not fit)-Jonas
    Ba-Cisse

    Anyone saying Ba and Cisse can’t play together please give yourself a slap!

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  • toonbrother

    Sep 26, 2012 at 10:41 PM

    Comment #2

    good news tavs is the real deal and cisee found his scoring boots. bad newsgosling is rubbish

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Sep 26, 2012 at 10:41 PM

    Comment #3

    Manxpie
    Yeah but vuckic has had loan soells which sammy n fergie havent had so you could argue hes had more chances

    I thought gosling was okay til the last 20 then he seemed to forget how to pass but yeah didnt think he was terrible but also didnt think he was great tbh

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  • NewcastleMole

    Sep 26, 2012 at 10:42 PM

    Comment #4

    Williamson is Very good in the air he wins many ariel battles however his awareness is almost no existent. He doesn’t know who’s around him or where he is half the time.

    Gosling yes he regularly got in the box but he lacks the skill to make up for this off the ball work. Can’t shoot, Can’t pass, Can’t tackle he isn’t going to make it at Newcastle much like Guthrie.

    Marvaux went missing for large parts of the game.

    Tavernier did excellent and i was really impressed.

    Obertan the same all running little else player.

    Im being critical of a few players but to Pardew they fill a shirt and we aren’t in a position to replace any one.

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  • toonbrother

    Sep 26, 2012 at 10:42 PM

    Comment #5

    anyone who hails Gosling then turns around to diss williamson cant be taken seriously

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  • jimmymagpie

    Sep 26, 2012 at 10:47 PM

    Comment #6

    Pawl – agree with everything you say above, with the possible exception of point 4, I don’t get Gosling I’m afraid. Manxpie – Pardew in his interview after the game said Colo is very sore, and doubtful for Reading. He also said he had no option but to play Willo, as we are down to the boards with centre-halves, so is there something up with Saylor we’re not being told. The owner’s financial/transfer policy looking more fragile than ever – more interested in buying JJB!

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  • pawl250

    Sep 26, 2012 at 10:49 PM

    Comment #7

    ToonBrother – anyone who says Williamson is a good player needs to stop watching football as they don’t understand it! His awareness is awful and he made Hernandez and Welbeck look like Usain Bolt tonight! He is slow! I didn’t praise Gosling, I simply stated he can play final 10-15 mintues when looking for a goal! That how I would utilise his talents given he a liability in defence! BUT he is much better than Obertan, who people rave about recently when he has been god awful! He has no desire to help in defence, his simple passing is non existent always looking for a stupid back heel or flick. He is a giant liability! He is sooo frustrating as he is fast, yet he refuses to attempt taking people on! And when he does is final ball makes me want to rip my eye balls out its that bad!!

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  • jimmymagpie

    Sep 26, 2012 at 10:52 PM

    Comment #8

    Pawl – I’m with you on Obertan. Anyway, my bed=time, I’ll leave it to you night owls. Night boys! HTL!

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  • NUFC_LEAZES END

    Sep 26, 2012 at 10:52 PM

    Comment #9

    @pawl

    It was hardly a Manchester united reserves team, they had 3 young players on , the rest had plenty of top flight experience and quality

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  • Blaydon-Toon

    Sep 26, 2012 at 10:57 PM

    Comment #10

    Ok so Gosling is not going to be pushing for a first team spot Mr t Bigi and Cabs can rest easy … Williamson is limited but but what other options do we have ? Is Good any Good ?

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  • Tsunki

    Sep 26, 2012 at 10:58 PM

    Comment #11

    Well its job done a runout for the practice team and Colo gets a jog round the park before saturday. We gave the Mancs 2nd choice a good runaround with our 2nd choice, that wouldnt have happened a few years ago would it. Cisse back in the zone, Tav and Bigi showing promise, Fergie looks like a few games would make him a regular supersub. Elliot cant be blamed for either goal he was basically unsighted, and here’s why I dont blame Willo – both goals were the favourite shot of the shooter who isnt being closed down, several players unsighting the goalie in front of you, you curl it round them. Both goals were the result of an inexperienced back line not coming out to close down. A player of the Saylor type wouldnt have allowed that to happen.

    Obertan played well right up to where it mattered. I will him to find that final ball but it just isnt coming. someone please help him! Gosling, runs around and finds places to be but sadly somehow is never on the same wavelength as the rest of the team. Vuckic had a spell but I am convinced he will not be a regular first team man.

    Thats not to say they were all bad, in fact with the team we fielded we did very well, more good things than bad, and we could have been talking about the penalties if cisse’s overhead came off. Job done, next game please.

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  • pawl250

    Sep 26, 2012 at 10:58 PM

    Comment #12

    NUFC leazes end – I was simply stating the defence was reserves or youngsters. As for reserves it’s exactly what Hernandez, Anderson are these days. I know Fletcher has been injured but he may never be the player he was and he has just came back from long term injury. Welbeck, Rooney (half fit) Cleverly really only first team players, other than De Gea who didn’t really influence the game tonight! Regardless it was hardly a starting 11 to be afraid of!! Tavernier did well but his pushing past the wing backs hardly happened tonight, always seemed to take the ball of him, or atleast the majority of the time! Still he was our best player though

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  • Ian Toon

    Sep 26, 2012 at 10:58 PM

    Comment #13

    pawl250- 1) yes
    2) I can ‘t comment as I haven’t seen your gran play.
    3) he’s extremely promising and only 18. Happy for Pardew to manage his PL introduction
    4) Broadly agree- needs games to establish himself . He made a positive contribution as game progressed. Deserves credit for not hiding when things not going well. Missed a good chance early on.
    5) He’s 20. Some players are late developers. Has not played enough
    games . Good technique but Shola is static and had problems connecting. Vuckic needs a spell without injury to sharpen up and stamina.
    6). Tavernier played as he did for Heed and is quicker than Simpson better control with the ball and just needs games against better players.
    to boost confidence. Comparison with an Established French International is silly. Who would?
    7) Perch was poor at right back as he was at Everton.
    8) Williamson was pulled out of position and did look even slower than usual trying to cover for Colo who was using game for fitness purposes and sought to avoid too much contact under orders from Pardew on touch line.

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  • Ian Toon

    Sep 26, 2012 at 11:02 PM

    Comment #14

    9) nearly forgot Ferguson who has excellent control , change of pace, a few tricks and probably provided the best cross of the season that your gran would have netted.

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  • Mister Tuff

    Sep 26, 2012 at 11:08 PM

    Comment #15

    After watching the game tonight, then checking some of the blogs on here, I wonder if I have been watching the same game. Some people appear to rate Obertan :- previous posts
    magpiepoot –Ober had a good game I think…
    Thump—–Agreed, bollance. Ober had a decent game today , if his final product was a bit better he’d have easily been MotM – he didn’t stop running!
    ToonDownSouth—-I do think Obertan is getting better with every game to be honest – but he may have already reached his ceillin
    toonarmydownsouth—Obertan looked semi potent at times tonight.
    Whilst the three posters see the game with obvious positivity -I really would like to do the same – would it therefore be possible to introduce me to your dealers so I can have the same experience.

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  • Tsunki

    Sep 26, 2012 at 11:12 PM

    Comment #16

    Pawl – no not a team to be afraid of if we were playing more of our first choice regulars. And we werent a team to be afraid of either. Pointless to be too critical of a game which ultimately was seen as little more than a good bit of exercise by both managers, and thats the way we should view it too.

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  • pawl250

    Sep 26, 2012 at 11:12 PM

    Comment #17

    My ‘gran’ is pretty awesome like! Lol Willaimson for me is not a player we can rely on. He shoul be back up to a back up. I hope we manage to sign a defender in January! Pardew himself stated he ‘lacks options’ in that position! Perhaps that was a cheeky dig for some board backing in the upcoming window. I hope to see Douglas, Debuchy or Mbiwa any for me would improve our back four options! Mbiwa being the more versatile and promising of the 3.

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  • Ian Toon

    Sep 26, 2012 at 11:13 PM

    Comment #18

    Mister Tuff- Bollance is a good judge I have observed. In relative terms that was one of Obertan’s better games.

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  • ramajama

    Sep 26, 2012 at 11:14 PM

    Comment #19

    I see quite a few people are being critical about Vuckic and Marveaux. I reckon they will both be great assets to the team. Vuckic had that play where he bought the ball down in the box turned his man and shot just wide…i reckon he is showing the technique just needs to grab the game by the scruff of the neck more. Marveaux wasnt brilliant but his dead ball delivery is good and is composed on the ball…wasnt a bad game overall ay, showing good signs

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  • manxpie

    Sep 26, 2012 at 11:15 PM

    Comment #20

    @tads yeah he had 1 stint on loan (he still scored) but again he was injured i still think sammi an fergi has easily had more chances of doin wat there supposed to do in there positions, i don’t know i’m just annoyed by fans hammering young players and saying “THERE JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH” does my nut in lol

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  • ramajama

    Sep 26, 2012 at 11:18 PM

    Comment #21

    @manxpie
    I agree mate, people tend to be too harsh on our youngsters..they make take a while but they will get there in my opinion

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  • Ian Toon

    Sep 26, 2012 at 11:18 PM

    Comment #22

    Tavernier after his Greek tragedy is right back in the mix. That. Show was standard -albeit at a lower level- last season . He’s got a calm assurance that. Simpson just doesn’t possess.

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  • Ian Toon

    Sep 26, 2012 at 11:18 PM

    Comment #23

    Take it easy .

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  • Brutooon

    Sep 26, 2012 at 11:19 PM

    Comment #24

    1) i was impressed with Tavernier, played both full back and NOT AFRAID to go forward. definitely my MOTM

    2) Gosling did OK, after 2-3 more games he should be sharp like during his Everton day. Give him chance

    3) Obertan – totally USELESS. no end product and got CONFIDENT ISSUES

    4) Glad Cisse score, his overhead kick show that his confidence is back

    5) Williamson must be one of the tallest defenders in the league but NEVER won that much header! If he go head to head with Owen/Defoe/Wright Phillips and he will still LOSE

    Conclusion : i dont mind we lose the game so we can focus more on the league and europa

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  • Graeme

    Sep 26, 2012 at 11:19 PM

    Comment #25

    Our reserve team nowhere near as good as Manures reserve team!! Pardew fielded a far weaker squad than Manure and in the end, it showed.

    The positive from this training exercise was that Cisse scored a typical Cisse goal, which should do his confidence the world of good, he was a touch of class.

    At the end of the day, one less group of meaningless fixtures to worry about; time to concentrate on what Pardew believes are our main objectives, given the limited squad he has available at this point in time!!

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  • NUFC_LEAZES END

    Sep 26, 2012 at 11:21 PM

    Comment #26

    @ian toon

    Simpson = mr panicky-poo

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  • Brutooon

    Sep 26, 2012 at 11:21 PM

    Comment #27

    Shane Ferguson manage to product more crosses in one minute than Obertan did in 2 seasons !!!!

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  • Tsunki

    Sep 26, 2012 at 11:23 PM

    Comment #28

    Well I didnt mention Marveaux but he is looking seriously behind the pace, at times he shows potential of being very good but it just doesnt come through very often, he fades quickly. Vuckic SHOULD be progressing to press for a first team slot, and yes I was impressed by his two touch turn in the box, but I dont know if its a lack of pace, sharpness, concentration or application, but he just seems to do a small collection of cameos and goes missing for long periods. I think thats as far as he will go unless he puts more effort in.

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  • NUFC_LEAZES END

    Sep 26, 2012 at 11:23 PM

    Comment #29

    As I always say, I rate fergie very highly, and tonight has showed just why I do

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  • Mister Tuff

    Sep 26, 2012 at 11:26 PM

    Comment #30

    Ian Toon at #18.
    Ian- I note you give your comments some “leeway” by use of the phrase “in relative terms”. Not to put it too blunty a slightly improved poor performance is probably better that a poor performance -bottom line is they are both poor performances
    AP made excuses for Obertan the last game stating he was running around in a daze – I just do not see in him what some others see in him.
    I do think the likes of Bigi and Tavernier (after his performance tonight) will be future first team players (providing they don’t do a Ranger).
    There is also the argument that poor players if continually selected can block the progress of others.

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  • Tsunki

    Sep 26, 2012 at 11:27 PM

    Comment #31

    brutooon- your post @24 not a bad summary. Your post @ 27 is your more usual claptrap.

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  • Brutooon

    Sep 26, 2012 at 11:30 PM

    Comment #32

    tsunki : at least its not ameobi or perch related :p

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  • Tsunki

    Sep 26, 2012 at 11:36 PM

    Comment #33

    brutooon – ha ha ok fair enough fella I should get off your back you are at least trying 🙂

    I do agree that even when obertan has a busy game I know for a fact when he goes for the byline he will not get a good cross in. I wish he would I really do. I think he can only play through the middle. Winger is not his strength.

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  • manxpie

    Sep 26, 2012 at 11:36 PM

    Comment #34

    bravo tsunki!!

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Sep 26, 2012 at 11:38 PM

    Comment #35

    Has anyone else noticed that Obertan never seems to look but just runs down the wing, head down, beats his man and then delivers a shocking ball. Maybe if he looked up he would know where the strikers were

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  • lordjoesnow

    Sep 26, 2012 at 11:39 PM

    Comment #36

    Tiote dissapointed me tonight as he couldnt mark when we conceded the second goal. just a shame really.

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  • Tsunki

    Sep 26, 2012 at 11:42 PM

    Comment #37

    BPC – thats exactly it, he doesnt look up, thats because he’s not a winger, never will be. I would have been interested to see if he could have played in the Vuckic position tonight, but who would we have put on the right instead?

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  • Tsunki

    Sep 26, 2012 at 11:44 PM

    Comment #38

    If Tiote and Colo had not been injured recently they wouldnt have been playing tonight. They needed the practice.

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Sep 26, 2012 at 11:46 PM

    Comment #39

    Yep, Cisse is definitely back. Great goal and that second effort was almost perfection

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  • wynsleap

    Sep 26, 2012 at 11:48 PM

    Comment #40

    Some very encouraging aspects of tonight’s game.
    Firstly it looks as if we have a more than competent keeper in Elliott who I must admit has surprised me lately.
    Secondly we HAVE to have Ferguson and Tavernier on the bench from now on as both look to have great futures at this club. Both technically good, willing to take players on, excellent pace and bags of youthful energy and confidence.
    On the other side of the coin Gosling contributes little apart from effort and running (we could get Mo to do that) and Marveaux looks as if he’s just wandered in from a village team to have a go. His desire to just hang his foot in on tackles rather than going in hard is going to result in another nasty injury soon and his slow, safety passing, rather than taking a man on and running at the defence, contributes nothing to the team.
    Vuckic I’m afraid is never going to make it here as he doesn’t have the strength or pace to impose himself either in midfield or up front. He may have some nice little pieces of skill but he just doesn’t carry any obvious consistent threat to the opposition. When he runs and turns it’s like watching an oil tanker in slow motion.
    Bigi, on the other hand, is going to be a BIGGY. Plays as if he owns the stage, full of confidence in his own ability, neat, tidy and extremely calm. When Tiote is out of the team for whatever reason this lad will step in seamlessly. Needs to be on the bench at all times.
    Disappointing result tonight but the kids did great. I think they may shock a few in the Europa League this season..
    Finally well done Papiss. One goal and he looked the mobile time bomb we know from last season. There’s a lot more goals to come from this guy and if Ba can continue his form it’s going to be mayhem up front.

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