Before the game last Thursday we thought that Newcastle’s third string goalkeeper, Rob Elliot, was an average goalkeeper – at best – but we’ve been proved wrong (what again?), and Rob has put in two very good performances for Newcastle, without making one mistake, and he’s still young at on;y 26, and has ample time to improve further.
Rob Elliot – in action at Old Trafford
Against Maritimo in the Europa League last week, he must have made five or six outstanding saves to keep Newcastle in the game, and last night he made saves from Anderson and Welbeck in the first half that were simply first class saves.
Of course Rob has only been given his chance because Tim Krul was injured while on Holland International duty, but the London-born goalkeeper has done what you have to do in the game of football, and that’s taken his chance with both hands.
This is what the former Charlton goalkeeper told the club’s official website today:
“It’s a completely different world.” “The players you are up against, the players you are playing with – it’s a dream come true.” “As a footballer you always want to play at the top places, and to get a chance to play at Old Trafford, I’m really pleased.”
“On a personal point of view I’m pleased that the gaffer has got the confidence in me, both in Europe and against a team like Manchester United.” “They have been two tough games, but I’m delighted to have played them both and it will be great for my career.”
“I’ve done what I can do. I’ve made my saves, kicked well and just been solid.” “It’s been tough with Tim doing so well and Harps doing well, so I haven’t had the chance to prove myself, but I want to get as many games as I can and show what I can do.”
“If the time ever comes that I’m needed in the Premier League, then great.” “Last night was bitter-sweet really.” “We were really pleased with the performance of everyone but disappointed with the way it turned out.”
“But the gaffer said he was proud of the performance from everyone.” “We had them on the ropes in the second half and it just shows what a great squad we’ve got.” “People say we’re not the biggest squad.”
“But when you look at the amount of games we’ve played in such a short space of time and the amount of players who have played, they are all top-class players.” “We were able to bring on guys like Shane Ferguson – a full international – so that shows the strength in depth.”
Top clubs must have three goalkeepers who are good enough to play in the first team, and at Newcastle, we seem to already have those goalkeepers in place in Tim Krul, Steve Harper and Rob Elliot, with young Jak Alnwick coming through the ranks.
Newcastle are strong in the position of goalkeeper, with Tim Krul the Dutch number one close to world class, but he will now know he must keep his performances at the very highest level when he returns, to continue as the Newcastle number one goalkeeper.
The competition for the goalkeeper spot at Newcastle will only be good for the club.
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1 Novocastrian66 // Sep 27, 2012 at 6:15 PM
Regarding previous thread. I’m all for stability but an eight year deal? The contract is too long, he will not see out this deal and we will be left with a hefty settlement.
Hopefully I’m wrong.
2 Graeme // Sep 27, 2012 at 6:18 PM
The first goal last night – he basically had no chance – the second one? Could he have covered his post a bit better?
Was very suprised when we bought him but he has proved he is a decent keeper; can he improve enough to become No 2 in front of Harper?? Time will tell, good luck to him.
3 Mister Tuff // Sep 27, 2012 at 6:18 PM
Elliot initially looked a bit dodgy -but has proved (so far) that the sceptics are wrong. He was afforded opportunities to prove himself -and has done just that. Some other players seem to be given too many opportunities by AP when, in my humble opinion they will not make the grade.
4 Graeme // Sep 27, 2012 at 6:21 PM
Novo at 1 – it is almost certain that there will be clauses in there that allow the club to terminate the contract under certain circumstances; Misconduct etc; with 6 months notice, etc etc
There are ALWAYS get-out clauses, for both sides.
5 tequilamag // Sep 27, 2012 at 6:22 PM
I think Harper is in last year of his contract. Assuming he is not offered an extension I feel a bit happier that Elliot could be a decent back for Krul.
6 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 27, 2012 at 6:23 PM
Novo….Tainted by the revolving door of managers in out past? Seeing as he has proved to be a good manager for us so far, I am pleased with this. The cost and impact on the club if he was poached away etc for me far outweighs the cost to get rid of him if needed.
On Elliot….Been saying it since the Europa game. The man has gone right up in my estimation, but then again, I don’t mind Simmo, so what the ‘eck do I know?
7 Novocastrian66 // Sep 27, 2012 at 6:25 PM
I think Elliot was a little supect for the second goal. It was virtually in the middle of the goal, not in a corner.
He had no chance for the first.
He had a great game against Maritimo, big improvement on last season so far for him which he has to be comended for.
8 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 27, 2012 at 6:29 PM
Novo
Maybe but the lad had like 5 players infront of him who all took up terrible positions, mainly collo tbf miles behind the rest and standing right in front of elliot forcing him to step wide to attempt to see by the time cleverly hit it elliot would not of seen than until it was 6 yards out and he was wrong footed by then
9 ToonDownSouth // Sep 27, 2012 at 6:30 PM
Novo
No way he was at fault for me. It wasn’t in the middle of the goal, and he saw it so so late. Watch it again – it comes straight through a crowd of players, and Elliott can’t even see Cleverly when he strikes it.
10 jimiley // Sep 27, 2012 at 6:31 PM
Great news that Pardew has been given an 8 year contract. It should have been longer. He is the man to get Champions League football and then win the title. Ashley knows what he is doing. A proven genius. He rightly sees greatness in Pardew and the backroom staff.
11 cupiddstunt // Sep 27, 2012 at 6:35 PM
Biz to answer your question from previous @ # 113
The truth of the question is Rudolph was one game away from being handed his p45 and the team won so he kept his job, he then got them playing better and the results started to fall his way.
He then did over a period of time what chelski and man shitty have done and that is outbid the rest of the clubs for players and bought success.
His time at Aberdeen said he was pretty good manager but I think you will find he is as guilty as the worst of them for bloating the players prices and pay packets.
In fact probably worse as he has been at it longer.
12 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 27, 2012 at 6:39 PM
Cupid….So it would be fair to assume the people saying his team being able to outplay Pardews (who has only been at the club a short time) and therefore Pardew is not up to standard is a little silly?
Thanks for clearing it up, I thought that was the case
13 ToonDownSouth // Sep 27, 2012 at 6:41 PM
Why is there some moron pretending to be Ruddy again?
Oh my, what fulfilling lives they must have.
14 bamble // Sep 27, 2012 at 6:44 PM
Alright guys, first time poster, been reading for a couple of years. Does anyone know when Carr signed his 8 year contract? I was just wondering if they were all linked in to finish at the same time.
15 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 27, 2012 at 6:53 PM
TDS….He left as he could no longer continue to struggle with NUFC (Fake Ruddy that is). Seems that’s not the case. Really really bizarre. Fulfilling indeed.
16 cupiddstunt // Sep 27, 2012 at 6:54 PM
Biz @ # 12
Saying that outlook is a little bit silly is like saying a pork chop is a pig that is a little bit dead.
I just shows the absolute rank ignorance of the posters posting it.
Manure is a team that has been built over the last twenty years so the players in it be they first teamers or second string have been in the system for an age so should be able to do what is expected with reason whereas NUFC are a team that is still in flux as it were.
Give AP another two seasons and if he is no further forward then it may be fair to be asking about his credentials as by then he should have HIS team around him.
17 ToonDownSouth // Sep 27, 2012 at 7:00 PM
cupid
A misunderstanding of the phrase ‘long term project’ appears to be an issue here. Most seem to think that it’s refering to next week.
18 Marty-Toon // Sep 27, 2012 at 7:02 PM
On last thread
Ok lads,
I reckon we also will be between 6-8 place.I can’t see us gettin into 5th this year.
A lot of clubs spent big this summer which of course doesn’t say they’ll do well because of expenditure but it’ll be tough to break 5th.
The one thing that may get us there is with Cisse scoring again and BA off to a good start that we see those 2 guys scoring like Cole n York did for utd.
I reckon they’ll find the partnership coming together soon.
The fear I have for the team is one or 2 weak links.
We have quality in the reserves,Abeid,Bigi,Vuckic,Fergie,Tav,red headed dynamo,Gosling.
I think a major weak link is Obertan and AP seems to want to make a point in putting him in the team until he comes good.
Obertan even says himself that he was happy with his display last night.
He didn’t appear in the 2nd half !
19 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 27, 2012 at 7:05 PM
Cupid… I like that
I think a lot of it comes down to some fans just don’t believe that Ashley is actually trying to achieve anything other than a stable advertising board. I can’t help but feel he could achieve that with a much smaller amount of effort. At the end of the day, I don’t know. I’ve never met the man nor do I understand his inner workings (other than he likes money and clearly food).
I can see good going on and do buy in to the long term project, so have an easier time going along with it.
Either way, I don’t see what people aim to achieve other than simply venting. If someone is that disgusted with the way things are going on at this club we all, what are they planning to do about it? Professional whingers some people. Not just some toon fans, but people the world over. Shame, but a fact of life (and that ain’t no fuct
)
20 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 27, 2012 at 7:09 PM
Marty….
6th – 8th is a reasonable expectation imo. I do think we can get 5th, but it’s way too early to say. Injuries, other teams issues and of course the luck factor will all play a part in a long season. I would be shocked to finish out of the top 8 though.
On Cisse and Ba, perhaps it is just a case of them both being in form and having confidence to make the partnership work. Two things have absolutely delighted me this season, the first being Ba back to scoring and now Cisse getting going to. Could be an exciting time coming up and I will happily eat my words as I have said I don’t see the two working together, I suppose I can’t be right all the time
I honestly see something in Obertan. He spent a long time at Manchester and he was clearly troubled when he left. Some players need to be happy and confident, he seems to be starting to get that together and the performances overall have improved. Not to the standard we want, but that should come. If not, we’ve wasted more then £3m before.
21 bollance // Sep 27, 2012 at 7:14 PM
Yet another player making a name for himself as part of our cup team.
Who is next to star?
22 Ian Toon // Sep 27, 2012 at 7:14 PM
Jim Iley. Your not the midfield player who captained the toon to promotion in the 1960′s(??), Ex Sheffield United .
23 Tsunki // Sep 27, 2012 at 7:16 PM
TDS – Fake Ruddy was actually the Beardo/Beardo Ameobi character. I had a bit of an exchange the other day upon which he said football was beneath him and his demise would be on my conscience. I assumed he was joking. He’ll probably devise yet another zany, madcap yet whimsically witty alter-ego for our delight and amusement.
I had to go but apparently BandB thought I was being insincere? Moi? Also just FYI, I am not a Kitchen Fitter. And that’s not a euphemism.
On the Alan Pardew Project spanning 8 years, perhaps Mike is trying the SAF / Arsene Wenger approach to management stability?
Finally, on Elliot’s 2 conceded goals, can’t really blame keeps for goals like that – forwards who aren’t closed down properly can virtually pick their favourite side of goal curling pass knowing the keeper will be unsighted. If their is a melee in front of goal, the keeper’s view will always be reduced, it’s the defence’s duty to close that angle down for him, otherwise they are part of the problem.
24 Tsunki // Sep 27, 2012 at 7:21 PM
Bring back Ruddy ! (the real one)
Bring back Beattie! (although he will more than likelycome back of his own accord late December when the Debuchy thing gets stoked back into life for January).
Bring back bringing things back!
25 Tsunki // Sep 27, 2012 at 7:22 PM
Oh and bring this blog back to life because I reckon I’ve killed it again.
Sorry, sorry everyone, sorry.
26 Marty-Toon // Sep 27, 2012 at 7:26 PM
@ibiza
I agree that we can all see something in Obertan
The guy has talent and speed to burn,but then why can’t he just do the thing every winger has been taught from they were 10 years old and cross the ball?
Listen the simple fact is ht Fergie did more damage in 60 seconds tan Obertan did all day.
Fergie doesn’t do too much on the ball,he skips a defender and puts a cross in the danger area.
It isn’t rocket science really,he isn’t the only pro that does it though.
Tis strange when he oozes talent yet the end product is as we’d say in Ireland PISH poor
27 mot7 // Sep 27, 2012 at 7:26 PM
out of the c1 cup and playing under strength side in euro cup and probably the FA cup no chance of winning the league so what the f***k are we actualy trying to do at this club .
28 Ian Toon // Sep 27, 2012 at 7:29 PM
Ibiza- thought you handled the rant poster very well. Reminded me of an apparent drunk in a multiplex cinema or library. That and word of Pardew’s extended contract got me thinking. With talk of breakaway blogs we need to sign you up contractually. I. ‘Ll have a word with Ed – sure he’d throw in home leave in South Shields out of Ibiza season.
Told the ferry from North Shields is still operating. Take it you won’t be watching the under 21′s on MUTV tomorrow night. Hope we get a result.
29 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 27, 2012 at 7:30 PM
Tsunki…Real Ruddy is still about. Doesn’t post as much, mainly down to the unwarranted negativity (this is an opinion…of course) and the general anger he seems to bring out in people. I do agree though, he should be posting more.
Beatrice will be back, when the club complete the signings planned in the summer and they once again match his ambitions. Well I hope so anyway, surely he hasn’t completely cut his ties with NUFC?
Anyway, back to being insincere and kitchen fitting for you.
30 Rake // Sep 27, 2012 at 7:36 PM
Watched the game last night and thought Fergie’s cross was sublime. We don’t create enough chances in games from crosses if any?
We have Ba and Cisse who are good in the air and no one whipping in crosses… it hurts my brain
31 Ian Toon // Sep 27, 2012 at 7:37 PM
Bollance- Woodman and Armstrong both start.
32 Marty-Toon // Sep 27, 2012 at 7:40 PM
Elliott did well,but our defence was shocking for the 2nd goal.
We had like 7 players back and they just played ball to each other.
The difference between utd and all other PL teams is they’ve gt more bite and really don’t know when they’re beaten,we’re becoming good at that but we’ve a lot to learn from the likes of them.
They get a lot of luck but they also create a lot of luck by the pressure they put teams under
33 Marty-Toon // Sep 27, 2012 at 7:42 PM
@Rake
With ya on that point mate
Ts a no brainer
34 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 27, 2012 at 7:42 PM
Marty…..It is frustrating for sure. I guess with the obvious skill, pace or whatever, the only conclusion I can come up with is confidence. Whether you’re paid or not, it is a valid factor of life and I’m willing to wait and see….for now!
Mot…..Silverware is obviously the final goal for any football team. However, if you cannot see that we’re trying to build sustainable success then i really don’t know how to discuss this with you. What is it you want? Go all out for a cup this season? Have we not done this before? Then how come we don’t have a trophy? Oh right, it’s not that simple. Perhaps we can afford to wait a little longer whilst the improvements are being made? Maybe?
Ian…Rant poster? What blogs have you been hanging out on?
I wont be going anywhere. This is actually the only blog I use (I’ve always been dead against them, as they seem to take over people lives – No, the irony of how much time I spend on here is not wasted on me). England in the winter? Ian, I’m afraid you’ll have to do better than that. How about building a SJP in Ibiza? That I would like 
If there is a link I would like to catch up on that….mind you, it’s Friday tomorrow, my last night to conquer the South Shields
– Might have to rely on your analysis.
35 Tsunki // Sep 27, 2012 at 7:43 PM
mot7 – bit glass quarter full that post wasn’t it? You might be able to field that one around crimbo time with more success.
Fielding under-strength side against Man U? Maybe, but that competition was never going o be a priority.
Weakened Euro sides have been seen to be adequate and have saved us from injuring or tiring our regular fist team players.
possibly the FA cup?
Do we actually have to WIN the league this year to count it as a successful season?
I think what we are trying to do at this club is build a side, keep our financial house in order, provide stability and go on to start winning things. It just might not happen this year. But you have to admit, it’s been a good couple of years so far, and this season is hardly a disaster already is it? Chin up marrer!
36 Dannyo // Sep 27, 2012 at 7:45 PM
Anyone know which number Armstrong wears for England?
37 Tsunki // Sep 27, 2012 at 7:47 PM
…and post 35 wins Random Question Award!
Ahem, no I don’t know. Sorry.
38 santonthenewmaldini // Sep 27, 2012 at 7:48 PM
Feel it was a missed opportunity to beat Man Utd as they were there for the taking
Thought we played quite well especially keeping the ball why do we look more comfortable on the ball with the 2nd team and kick and rush in the premiership?
Vuckic for me needs to go out on loan to the lower leagues he needs to play up front with a small man next to him and a team that is going to cross it in for him all the time and he needs to get battered about and get his shirt dirty and develop a mean streak!
Look at Carroll in the Championship season in the 1st half of it he got flung about like a rag doll by defenders and in the 2nd half of the season he turned into a beast Vuckic does not have pace but he has a lovely touch and shot so needs to get more a presence on him to dominate players!
39 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 27, 2012 at 7:49 PM
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11673/8114708
40 Ian Toon // Sep 27, 2012 at 7:49 PM
Dannyo -9
41 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 27, 2012 at 7:51 PM
Man…I was hoping for that award. Going to have to try harder tomorrow. Wont be a sore loser. Congratulations Dannyo, I still respect you, but got to admit I dislike you somewhat now.
42 Dannyo // Sep 27, 2012 at 7:51 PM
@Ian Toon
Cheers, the lads got proper pace.
43 Dannyo // Sep 27, 2012 at 7:52 PM
@Tsunki
Haha, i didn’t see that until Ibiza commented it
Cheers, made my day
44 Tsunki // Sep 27, 2012 at 7:54 PM
Dannyo and you made mine nobody ever notices anything I do.
Perhaps its for the best.
45 Dannyo // Sep 27, 2012 at 7:57 PM
@Tsunki
Haha, right, it’s that time of the month then?
46 Tsunki // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:01 PM
Eagle eye mate, eagle eye ….;)
47 Tsunki // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:04 PM
santonthenewmaldini – trouble is Vuckic DID go out on loan and apparently was doing great, but seems to have cooled back off again. It seems to me to be a psychological or motivational thing rather than skill or ability.
48 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:08 PM
Right, I’m over my sulk. What we chatting about now?
49 Ian Toon // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:09 PM
Tsunki- you say that in your professional capacity as a sports psychologist.
50 Tsunki // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:12 PM
Ian Toon, no I say that in my capacity as a non- kitchen fitter.
51 hotdog // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:13 PM
Ooo ibiza “I’ve always been dead against them, as they seem to take over people lives”
My sides are hurting, stop it hahahaha
52 Tsunki // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:14 PM
Aaah Ibiza’s anti-blog comment yeah ha ha ha I just glossed over that one my word….
53 Ian Toon // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:15 PM
The wires in the brain get crossed and you say something that seems entirely reasonable inside your skull. Well that’s my excuse . Got to see the same man about a dog.
54 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:15 PM
Hotdog…That’s what I’m saying man. I knew better! Damn you Ed, damn you Newcastle, Damn you internet, just damn it all
55 Dannyo // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:15 PM
I’m confused…
56 Dannyo // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:16 PM
Any of u lovely, gentle lads on twitter btw?
57 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:17 PM
Ian…I’m starting to question these visits about dogs. Are yo part of some sort of seedy subculture? Go on, spill the beans.
58 hotdog // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:17 PM
Ibiza- hahahahaha I can’t stop sorry, it’s brilliant
59 Tsunki // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:18 PM
Pards celebrating his new deal?
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa469/kasper36/Newcastle%20United%20FC%20-%20The%20Animated%20Series/pardew.gif?t=1328569898
60 Ian Toon // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:18 PM
Tsunki – but you told us you had fitted it for your brother in law. You mean he didn’t pay out or is it family business. So much for a parallel universe. You can’t believe anything.
61 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:18 PM
Dannyo…Confused about what? Not sure I’m in this lovely and gentle category, but no. I have an account, so am a slight twit, but not full on – I am yet to tweet.
62 Dannyo // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:19 PM
Neat. Armstrong with a nice assist
England is now up 3-0
63 Ian Toon // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:19 PM
Ibiza- you have me banged to rights guy.
64 hotdog // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:20 PM
Dannyo – I was going to but was worried Ibiza might be on there
65 Ian Toon // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:22 PM
Ibiza- mind you I like the sound of a seedy subculture off to fully investigate the possibilities in Shields.
66 Tsunki // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:23 PM
Ian – I know sometimes people ruin this blog with talk about football, but my explanation for the fitting a kitchen thing is that I have somehow given out the impression Iam good at some stuff, and it has come back to bite me in the ass. many late mights, days off and a crap kitchen later…
So anyway I am quite good at sports psychology y’know…
67 Dannyo // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:25 PM
@Tsunki
That is fantastic
@Ibiza
And i’ll also force u to tweet.
Give us a follow on Danny0
Follow back, promise
68 Tsunki // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:28 PM
Oh no I am no good at twitting though I just dont get it and it scares me a bit. I have an account but I daren’t tweet because I dont know what will happen. I have this idea that suddenly the world and his dog will be rummaging through my pants drawer or something
69 hotdog // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:30 PM
I was a bit down after that result last night. Thanks for cheering me up tsunki / ibiza
On obertan people keep saying he can’t cross, how’s about just going for goal ie ronaldo. I’m just trying to help him
70 Tsunki // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:33 PM
All part of the service. yep Obertan should push up through the middle. in fact when his byline antics weren’t happening, I was willing him to just cut inside. he does have a shot on him, why doesn’t he ignore the programming and be spontaneous sometimes? hang on, hang on, I may be going into sports psych mode.
71 leavemyarselona // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:33 PM
Ibiza you crack me up
72 santonthenewmaldini // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:34 PM
@tsunki
Yeah thats right he was at Cardiff and scored a peach of a goal actually for them
Maybe what Pardew is doing is trying to give these lads a fair crack at the whip till January and if they improve enough to come into premier league status or they get sold or loaned out for the rest of the season?
Also what has happened Abeid?
On another note i am from Scotland and have been watching Paul Dummet this season for St Mirren they play attacking football and its on the deck and he has been playing quite well apart from the last league game where they got beat off kilmarnock but he might come back a much improved player at left back
73 Tsunki // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:36 PM
Last I heard Abeid was going on loan? Some strange talk going around about him but I dunno.
74 bob // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:38 PM
Fancy giving pardew another eight years hes useless lastnight proved that vuckic instead of cisse we could have easily won but for pardews negative play the guys a a chancer Toon will win nowt under him!
75 hotdog // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:39 PM
Obertan and gosling are getting plenty of chances but unfortunately they ain’t taking them.
Ibiza come back your not on that often honest
76 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:40 PM
I’m running off to eat. But a quick response
Tsunki….So it’s not only me that has this fear of twitter? Glad to hear it.
Barcelona (memory serving me well)…..Probably fitting as I think I may have cracked up.
Ian….Enjoy.
Hotdog…..You are most welcome (can’t comment for Tsunki – be careful, he sometimes lacks sincerity
)
Until next time lads (most likely later – bloomin’ blog).
77 hotdog // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:40 PM
Bob – is that you Mr.Murray?
78 Tsunki // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:41 PM
Aahh bob – perfect end to a perfect evening. Goodnight all.
79 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:41 PM
Oh Bob, why just as I’m leaving? Let me just say I’ve missed you. Oh so much. Have a wonderful evening and I do hope we can catch up soon
Hotdog….Now that’s just a lie
Peace
80 Tsunki // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:42 PM
hotdog –
81 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:46 PM
Yay bobs back!!!!
Thankgod your here to save us with your insightful comments!!!
82 ITUNDERASHELL // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:51 PM
BOBBOBBOBBOBBOBOBOBOBOBBOBBOBOBBOBBOBBOBBOBBOBBOBBOBBOBBOBBOBBOBBOBBOBBOBBOBBOB
He’s back by popular demand!
83 mot7 // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:51 PM
tsunki
ha ha the chins up mate just want us to have a real crack at winning a cup as we no the league is out of the question .We always seem to be building for the future i just want us to have a go now if it doesnt happen so be it, but at least have a real go most managers build with the future in mind very few are still around when it arrives.
84 check the toastie // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:55 PM
The thing is with our youngsters;
You now need to be quite special to break into a decent PL team, (which we are by the way, or at least should be), personally the real good uns it sticks out a mile they will make it, well i can see it anyway, i saw it with Carroll, can see it with Sammi and can see it with Tav and Bigi, its all about confidence, technique and drive, these 3 lads have it in abundance. Unsure about the rest.
Gosling and Vuckic have no future at the Toon, they have had their chance and have shown nothing of note, its time for them to drop down the pecking order a little. Abied and Bigi should defo jump in front of them.
Still a bit p1ssed Pards didnt play Bigi and Cisse from the off last night, in fact due to the pace of the game he could have played most of our first team, Cabs needs some game time to find his form and Benny could have wrapped the game up in 20 minutes of magic, just a real shame, i suppose a few will be looking forward to the next round of games with us not in the draw.
Its all about not picking up injuries i suppose, load of sh1t, especially if we start like a normal bunch of cranks against Reading, maybe we should rest some players against Reading as we do have another two games in the next week, we dont want injuries now do we..
I mean injuries, oh no not injuries, we will have to play the players who have already been playing most the games already. If Pardew plays a weakened team in the FA Cup like last year when we got knocked out then i will nick his tubes from his sunbed, and swap his Hair Gel for Immac, Tube, does he not realise winning something is the most important thing for any Toon fan.
85 lukes26 // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:57 PM
To be fair to Obertan, his Fullback safety blanket on the right wing have been Simpson, Perch, and Tavernier . None of these players are good with the ball.
I’d like to see Obertan paired with Anita on the right. Put Ben Arfa on the left, paired with Santon.
86 ITUNDERASHELL // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:57 PM
If Debuchy come’s in January where will Benny play?
87 check the toastie // Sep 27, 2012 at 8:58 PM
Bob – i totally agree, Cisse should have played for Vuckic and Bigi should have started instead of Gosling. Thanks for the support Pal.
88 check the toastie // Sep 27, 2012 at 9:01 PM
lukes – yepp think thats a pretty good idea, think Jonas should spend a little time on the bench, currently his contribution to the team is graft and giving the ball away, shame as i love the guy for his application, but i think he is affecting the whole way the team is currently playing.
The only position i would currently entertain him is Full Back.
89 ITUNDERASHELL // Sep 27, 2012 at 9:02 PM
Bigirimana was outstanding for the limited time he was on the pitch, he is going to be a toon legend.
90 hotdog // Sep 27, 2012 at 9:03 PM
Lukes- that comment is ridiculous in the extreme
Check- why don’t we just tie him to his sunbed and let it run for a while
91 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 27, 2012 at 9:06 PM
I don’t think any of our youngsters are odds on to become top premier league players and regulars at Newcastle, it is very tough to break through the ranks at the highest level, but I agree, Bigi is the most likely, he has looked genuinely excellent considering his age and experience and Sammy and Fergie have some special qualities, Sammy in particular if he develops physically like his brother and Fergie’s run and cross was football at it’s best and he did it at Old Trafford against Man U..
Confidence is key, guys like Gos and Vuckic will be having inner doubts I imagine, makes it very unlikely.
92 check the toastie // Sep 27, 2012 at 9:08 PM
hotdog – Pardew reminds me a little of George Hamilton, so slimy and smooth, needs to get his teeth whitened to complete the look really, i can imagine one home game him turning up with jet black hair
sleazy git.
93 p // Sep 27, 2012 at 9:09 PM
@90 I think Bigi will make it for sure, it’s a toss up for the others
94 Levi // Sep 27, 2012 at 9:10 PM
@ lukes
santon and HBA on the same wing?
both great players but you got to think defensively we would be buggered?
95 check the toastie // Sep 27, 2012 at 9:11 PM
jaw – i really do think Tavernier is going to turn into a top top player, potential international, same goes for Sammi, think Bigi needs to improve his touch a little and would like him to have a little more pace but he does look a good player and clearly is going to be involved in the future. Like the way the lad gets nice and tight, doesnt hang a yard off players like Gosling does.
96 Offkey // Sep 27, 2012 at 9:13 PM
@93 – Santon and HBA played on the left for part of the second half at Everton and looked good together.
97 check the toastie // Sep 27, 2012 at 9:14 PM
Levi – Santon is good enough to look after himself, gives Benny more license to create havoc, if we cant take the game to Reading we might as well give up.
98 Levi // Sep 27, 2012 at 9:17 PM
i think against week teams why not try it but against teams like spurs where they would have walker and lennon running at them it would be a bit hard. wouldnt mind if pards put anita left with ben arfa and santon right with jonas for a game just to see how it goes. havnt seen jonas right in years
99 @timuJ // Sep 27, 2012 at 9:18 PM
regarding Pardew’s new contract, this is good news for us. Pardew and the backroom staff have a genuine desire to take us to where we should be. Regarding the complacency issue, I don’t think managers operate on the same mandate as most players these days. They get into management for the thrill of building a squad and implementing their philosophies. Pardew will be more at ease and the new contract will fill him with confidence that he can succeed. why do people want a manager under pressure to get results with the fear of not getting a new deal/being sacked. that’s absurd.
100 FatmanJoe // Sep 27, 2012 at 9:19 PM
I think tav has a chance too. Alwick too.
Someone once said tav was just like Simpson. Which means one day he’ll be playing regularly for a top premiership side
101 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 27, 2012 at 9:22 PM
It’d be great, nothing better than bringing through young players, of course, especially if their local lads, I try to temper my enthusiasm because as was said the ones who are going to do it can be picked out pretty quickly. I think, for me, the only one like that is Bigi, the others will be at least good pro’s , they are already, but whether it’s in the Newcastle fiirst team.
On a personal note, I’d really love to see Campbell succeed, because he scores goals .
102 FatmanJoe // Sep 27, 2012 at 9:25 PM
I think we’ve got 5-6 future stars already and I think with mike’s vision we can bet we’ll bring in tons more in the next five years. Would like sammi and Campbell to succeed tho as they’re locals.
103 89Norcal // Sep 27, 2012 at 9:33 PM
Elliot has been great. fwiw, that first goal was unsaveable and the 2nd tough for him to even see the striker..Nice to know we have 2 good keepers for euro competition.
104 bollance // Sep 27, 2012 at 9:49 PM
Check
Bob is not one of us, I will give u a clue.. He does not have a bath or even a bathroom.
105 tarie4 // Sep 27, 2012 at 10:15 PM
Check and bob
just shows U have no knowledge in tactics etc. Yesterday there was no way in a 442 formation (4411) we could have played bigi and tiote together in the middle of the pitch because both of them dnt get forward much. Did U see the positions gosling took up in the man U half. That was the reason pards was always going to pair either tiote or bigi with gosling, because playing tiote and bigi together in a (442) will have left a big gap between our midfield and attack. As both tiote and bigi dnt join the attack much. In a 433 etc yes it could have worked but deffo not in a 442 stick to FIFA and football manager lads
106 cupiddstunt // Sep 27, 2012 at 10:18 PM
Bollance @ # 104
If I were a conspiracy theorist I could read what you have just typed and think maybe that’s why they both post crap comments about NUFC.
107 tarie4 // Sep 27, 2012 at 10:27 PM
cupiddstunt
Good shout
108 santonthenewmaldini // Sep 27, 2012 at 11:12 PM
I would love to See Anita and Obertan on the right and Arfa Santon left it would be the best combination of speed and skill teams would not know how to defend on either side
People say Santon and Arfa would not be able to defend properly thats rubbish Santon has defended brilliant this season and Arfa tracks back these days but it would not be them that would have to do the defending it would be the opposite teams as they would get cut open!!
You would then have Obertan and Anita which would be perfect counter attacking and Anita can cross the ball excellent
Also on Gosling I still remember how promising he was when he came from Everton the guy had a seriously bad injury it might take him a bit longer to fully recover or he might never recover
Think its a confidence thing but also that he is still wary of getting injured again as if we can get a system where we are crossing the ball into the box more a player like him who has the knack of coming into the box late could score some goals when we need to go for broke
There was honestly about 4 or 5 examples of this against Man Utd where he had timed the run to perfection but no one picked him out
109 bollance // Sep 27, 2012 at 11:31 PM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastle-alan-pardews-new-eight-year-1347261
Llambias on pards and co’s new deal
110 Magpie from Lithuania // Sep 28, 2012 at 12:24 AM
FIFA 13 ccrack? Anyone? Link ?
111 Special K // Sep 28, 2012 at 12:44 AM
Incredible honesty from Llambias in that interview, he seems to have set out purposely to improve his own image & that’s not a bad place to start.
He’s confirmed what we all suspected that Lille were constantly shifting the goalposts with regards to Debuchy, hears hoping we can go back in January and secure him Cisse style.
Not too fussed about Douglas, his character seems suspect from all those “stepping stone” quotes and honestly I’d rather have two guys in Williamson & Perch covering CB who would bleed for the black and white stripes.
Surprised Van Der Wiel was a serious target and for a fee of only €6m as opposed to Anita’s €8.5m. I’m surprised that one didn’t get done but can only imagine what Van Der Wiel’s wage demands were. Anyway Anita is younger and more versatile so nothing lost there.
112 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 28, 2012 at 12:55 AM
Classic schaudenfraude, publicly thanking a Mackem for his support.
Aw Check, what happened to ya man, you used to be so cool.
Ok, ok. I forgive you, but only because your posts remain eminently readable.
113 Santon03 // Sep 28, 2012 at 5:57 AM
Exit from C1 cup is a good thing for me, because we are not equiped to be in 4 competitions. It’s just too much games for our small squad if we progress. Too much games in every week = injuries + fatigue.
114 jesperfuglsang // Sep 28, 2012 at 6:42 AM
Morning lads!
…Nice article, but is DL talking about wanting the transfer window to close in early July for English clubs? Did I read that right?
…seeing how long it took NUFC to close any deals this summer I fail to see how that is good for us
lol
The window should probably close before the first league game; that would be the sane thing!
115 ppb // Sep 28, 2012 at 7:59 AM
morning chaps i see bob has returned
116 check the toastie // Sep 28, 2012 at 8:22 AM
Good words from Lambarse, should have still signed Debuchy and Douglas though, cant continue to miss out on our top targets for the sake of a couple of million,
Anyway we have been lucky with Debuchy as he is still crocked. Debuchy for Simmo, Tav as back up, Perfect.
Fergy is back up to Santon, then Anita can cover both if we have a crisis, things arnt so bad.
117 ppb // Sep 28, 2012 at 8:32 AM
check i like your calm cool attitude tjid morning and i completely agree with that post
118 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Sep 28, 2012 at 8:32 AM
Good article posted by bollance there. I think that Ashley and lambias and co are finally starting to do things right. It’s probably to much hassle to pish us off anymore so he does good things lol.
It’s nice to see our club has stability now, it’s what we’ve needed for years, we can start rebuilding our club to one of the top. I see no reason why in two or three seasons, with good transfer windows, we can’t challenge the top 3 atleast. I don’t think man utd are that far ahead of us in terms of talent. Man city and Chelsea are yeah, but in terms of raw talent on form, I’d rate us equal to arsenal and better than spurs, and not far behind manure.
HWTL
119 Ian Toon // Sep 28, 2012 at 8:37 AM
Jesper – you little ray of sunshine-LOL. It seems the suggestion from
DL is geared to ensuring he can holiday in July. Most player contracts expire at end of July so it will remain as it is.
On another point- Those posters who think that even young players
rated at 18 by fellow professionals do not turn out to be super stars- I give you Jermaine Jenas. That’s why there were a number of managers
unable to convince their chairman that they should bid £ 1 million for Bigi.
120 stuart no9 // Sep 28, 2012 at 9:03 AM
just getting back to AP and his 8 year deal, a very odd deal to say the least, could it be that ash,again, is thinking of selling up and dosnt want to see his mate lose out financially .
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