LLambias On Debuchy And Douglas – They Were Too Expensive

Its’ not very often that Derek Llambias talks about what happened in the transfer window but he has done that, and he talked about Mathieu Debuchy and Douglas yesterday, and it seems they were just too expensive, and Newcastle weren’t prepared to pay over the odds for two of their transfer targets this summer.

Derek Llambias Debuchy and Douglas were too expensive

Derek was speaking after he had announced the eight year contract deal for Alan Pardew and his staff, and he had this to say about Mathieu Debuchy and then Douglas:

“Debuchy was a target. We were led to believe it would be in the region of 6 million euros and that was never the case – it was a lot bigger than that, but it was pounds.” “We worked really hard on it and we were keen to do that deal, but if you can’t afford it, you can’t afford it.”

“You can’t keep going down the road of saying, ‘Oh, well, it’s only another two or three million!’ “We went for several targets, one of those was Douglas, and they were just too pricey. We were nearly there, but you can’t keep going back to get the price you want if there’s no appetite from the other side.”

“There was no appetite from Ajax to sell Vurnon Anita – their appetite was to sell Gregory van der Wiel. We were looking at both, as a pair, but we went off Van der Wiel because we couldn’t afford it.” “But Anita is the future, the quality we’ve been looking for.”

It could be that Newcastle were as much as £2M short of the Lille asking price for Debuchy, which is bigger than we thought, and there has been some news that Newcastle may go back for the player in January.

As far as Douglas goes, his contract runs out next summer at FC Twente, so it would be that Newcastle will go back in for him in January or wait for him becoming a free agent and try to fix up a deal next summer.

Both could still potentially arrive at Newcastle, but they will only come through the door if their transfer fees have been decreased.

Newcastle fans find it hard to understand why we don’t pay a little over th odds to get our targets – just a little – because we were so used to Freddy Shepherd doing that.

But let’s be honest, Freddy didn’t pay just a little over the odds – he paid way over the odds in both transfer fees and wages for players that he brought in.

We have far too many examples of bad buys under Freddy Shepherd to even think about it, and we suppose we are getting used to Newcastle not giving in on the transfer price to other clubs.

But it can be frustrating too. :d

What do you think?

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20 comments so far

  • Conaldo (The Wizard)

    Sep 28, 2012 at 8:34 AM

    Comment #1

    Repost –

    Good article posted by bollance there. I think that Ashley and lambias and co are finally starting to do things right. It’s probably to much hassle to pish us off anymore so he does good things lol.

    It’s nice to see our club has stability now, it’s what we’ve needed for years, we can start rebuilding our club to one of the top. I see no reason why in two or three seasons, with good transfer windows, we can’t challenge the top 3 atleast. I don’t think man utd are that far ahead of us in terms of talent. Man city and Chelsea are yeah, but in terms of raw talent on form, I’d rate us equal to arsenal and better than spurs, and not far behind manure.

  • check the toastie

    Sep 28, 2012 at 8:42 AM

    Comment #2

    Still a dick

  • jawballsaswallwell

    Sep 28, 2012 at 8:44 AM

    Comment #3

    That was easy enough, wasn’t it Derek. Why the wait?

  • bambams

    Sep 28, 2012 at 8:44 AM

    Comment #4

    My god Lambias letting us know what happened. . . Communication at last !

  • TorqToon

    Sep 28, 2012 at 8:47 AM

    Comment #5

    Good words by lambias!

    All summer people were saying “pay the 2mi extra and get him!” What next….the next target adds £3mil on to their price, we pay it…and so on! They absolutely know what they are doing. At the end of the day, if debuchy is desperate to come to us, he will arrive as no club wants an unhappy player. And from watching most of Lille’s games this season, he doesn’t seem a happy lad just now. On douglas, again, the price kept creeping up, plus the citizenship issues (and the fact that he talks of a bigger club than the toon are looking at him) didn’t help his cause.

    As frustrating as the window was…I’m GK’s we weren’t held to ransom and paid above what GC, AP etc saw fit!

  • Magpie from Lithuania

    Sep 28, 2012 at 8:50 AM

    Comment #6

    i can’t wait for fifa 13 crack!!!!

  • Ian Toon

    Sep 28, 2012 at 8:51 AM

    Comment #7

    The price differentiation was largely down to confusion over whether
    Debuchy was priced in £ or euros. We’re led to believe – could just be Lille not wanting to be screwed twice by our steal of the century. Buying young talent that don’t achieve required PL standard will still enable us to recoup initial outlay by selling to Championship and below. Even if transfer price inflation is lower through fair play
    kicking in. Further evidence of growing professionalism.

  • danishmag

    Sep 28, 2012 at 8:51 AM

    Comment #8

    Thank you for that Mr.Llambias.

    This tells me what i have been thinking all along. The board thinks before they throw money at a player. Many clubs could/should learn from that.

    Keep up the good work, Mr.Llambias

  • Ian Toon

    Sep 28, 2012 at 8:55 AM

    Comment #9

    TorqToon- with a long term plan in the overall scheme of things as with Cisse , getting Debuchy in January, at the price we want to pay makes sense.

  • jawballsaswallwell

    Sep 28, 2012 at 8:57 AM

    Comment #10

    Well that seemed a frank and clear explanation and I guess it’s pretty smart to let some time and distance pass from the transfer window to allow the clamour to die down and then clear the air in conjunction with the positive news about about Pards and his crews contract upgrades.

    All in all, very good. He doesn’t speak often but to be fair to him on the last two occasions he’s handled himself well.

  • Ian Toon

    Sep 28, 2012 at 9:00 AM

    Comment #11

    danishmag – it’s nice to have our thinking confirmed. Certainly on course for self sufficiency. It’s just taking time for some of our fans to understand the game plan. As Pardew has said it’s a good time to be a
    NUFC fan.

  • Ian Toon

    Sep 28, 2012 at 9:09 AM

    Comment #12

    Conaldo@1- Such a scenario will largely depend on the success of our grass root development . Self sufficiency will only be achieved by selling at the top and replacing at the bottom. Supplementing along Arsenal lines. Wenger and Arsenal are the blueprint – Pardew/Carr.

  • TorqToon

    Sep 28, 2012 at 9:38 AM

    Comment #13

    Ian – I agree mate! Walk away from the deal in the summer – to pick up a bargain in the winter! What fee did frieburg ask for Cissé? £13.5mil ??? We get him 4montha later for £8mil ! Maybe we wil finally secure debuchy for €6m and Douglas for an even bigger bargain given his contract situation!

  • danishmag

    Sep 28, 2012 at 9:48 AM

    Comment #14

    yeah i know..
    But a big step, that i have been looking forward to, has now happened.. The board is talking to us.
    We might hear from Mr. Ashley in the near future as well?!
    And yes, as you said before.. Pards has said it.. it´s a good time to be a NUFC fan.. Hear hear!

  • numba9

    Sep 28, 2012 at 10:03 AM

    Comment #15

    The men at the top need to stop thinking about our club as a shop and start buying a few experienced players to go with the young guns. Even if we needed to pay a bit more if the position needs addressing there is money there and we are short at back and maybe a striker

  • danishmag

    Sep 28, 2012 at 10:07 AM

    Comment #16

    We have Harper, Coloccini, Saylor, Jonas, Tioté, Willo, Raylor and Shola to be seen upon as experienced NUFC players.
    On top of that, we have Cabaye, Marveaux, Ben Arfa, Ba and Cissé at the ages between 25 and 27
    That should do, dont you think?

  • numba9

    Sep 28, 2012 at 10:42 AM

    Comment #17

    Lots of injury prone players among those mentioned and even big Mike Ashley knew we needed cover at back but obviously wants to do it on the cheap so no I don’t think we are strong enough

  • shanghai fan

    Sep 28, 2012 at 5:25 PM

    Comment #18

    Can’t please everyone! I agree with Ian, torq and danish. January will be around soon enough. Did we really save 5.5m on cisse? That’s ridiculously good value = 1 hba or 1 cabaye and a bigi. Amazing

  • woolerbill

    Sep 28, 2012 at 6:33 PM

    Comment #19

    At the end of the season we will see that newcastle will be a million miles away from the bigboy’s. If you can spend arround £20mil you might just catch th

  • Sav

    Sep 29, 2012 at 2:07 AM

    Comment #20

    Confusion over was it pounds or was it euro? Come off it. That is ridiculous. You just ask ‘what currency?’

    As you yourself said, Ed. We can lose Danny Simpson in summer for nothing with him talking to clubs from January. Surely we’d have got 2 million for him last window against whatever Debuchy cost.
    And the bloke is an embarrassment talking about Ajax and van der Wiel like that. Llambias has as much class as a fart in a phonebox.


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