10 Managers In 12 Years A Thing Of The Past At Newcastle


Alan Pardew is still recovering from the shock of being handed an eight year deal on Thursday, for both him and his coaching staff, but one reason Alan has done so well at Newcastle in a fairly short time, is that he has bought right into Mike Ashley’s plan for how to make Newcastle great again.

Alan Pardew – long term Newcastle manager

When Freddy Shepherd became the Newcastle Chairman on December 1st 1997, we had six managers in the 10 years he was in charge of the club, until Mike Ashley bought Newcastle in the summer of 2007.

Kenny Dalglish, Ruud Gullit, Bobby Robson, Graeme Souness, Glenn Roeder and Sam Allardyce were the managers, and that didn’t change too much after Mike Ashley bought the club, even though Chairman Chris Mort at the time he came on board in August of 2007, said that the biggest thing Newcastle needed was stability and should stop changing their managers so much.

In the first two years under Mike Ashley we had Sam Allardyce, Kevin Keegan, Joe Kinnear, Alan Shearer and Chris Hughton as managers – so things didn’t seem to change too much.

If we have things right, that’s 10 managers Newcastle had from the summer of 1997 through the summer of 2009 – how’s that for stability – and in five of those years there was just one manager – Bobby Robson – and he had lots of success of course.

So in the other five years we had 9 managers in charge of the club – unbelievable.

Gone these days are the huge transfer fees to bring top players to the club, and instead Graham Carr and his team have the remit to scout top players who may be under the radar screens in Europe, and who can be brought to Tyneside for small transfer fees, and of course free agents are also attractive to the new Newcastle.

Newcastle have also invested heavily in youth Development.

Alan was asked if he had asked for transfer money from the owner before he signed his new deal, and he had this to say:

“No, because I don’t think the model will change.” “I can’t see Mike changing a model he thinks works. I know the type of animal he is and if he thinks the model works, he’ll stick with it.”

“So our model is quite clear and we have to make sure that if we do lose a player that we bring in two who are better – and that’s not easy to do. We haven’t done a bad job of it so far. Somewhere along the line, we going to lose a big player here – it happens to all clubs, even Man United. So you need to be positive in how you react to that.”

“One of the problems they have had in the past is the uncertainty at board level.” “Sometimes in the past boards think you have a personal agenda or are not pulling solely for the club. That you have your own personal ambition before anything else. I think sometimes, when you are younger that does get in the way.”

“I wouldn’t say that hasn’t happened to myself. But I understand now what it takes to win a game of football, what it takes to run a club as manager. This gives me a great opportunity to do it at a club that is one of the best in the land.”

It’s a great opportunity for Alan Pardew at Newcastle,. and we think the model is more taken after the one at Everton with David Moyes than say Manchester United or Arsenal.

Everton stood by David when he had a couple of bad season when he first came in and only just avoided relegation in 2004 – when they finished 4th bottom were were still 6 points above 3rd bottom Leicester City.

That was the year Newcastle were 5th and that led to the sacking of Bobby Robson at Newcastle.

We think this is a very good thing for Newcastle, just as long as Alan Pardew’s ambition is not dimmed by the financial stability he had been given by the owner.

In short – we need a win this afternoon to start off  Alan Pardew’s new reign on Tyneside. 😀

Howay The Lads!!

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18 comments so far

  • nico

    Sep 29, 2012 at 10:24 AM

    Comment #1

    If Pards is still there in 8 years time we will be winning things and constantly in top 4.

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  • Super Magpie

    Sep 29, 2012 at 10:28 AM

    Comment #2

    Toonsmart

    I see your point, but that’s now the 3rd time that hamstring has been injured in a few weeks. They must have realised by now that we can’t rush Colo back, because It will only happen again.

    Nico

    Lets hope Pardew can deliver that. I think the FFP will give us a greater chance of doing so.

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  • tarie4

    Sep 29, 2012 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #3

    nico

    I have no doubt about that..

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  • JAMSHA

    Sep 29, 2012 at 10:31 AM

    Comment #4

    no.match live in.india 🙁 bloody hell

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  • toon smart

    Sep 29, 2012 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #5

    @ Super Magpie

    I guess your source of frustration is probably down to lack of cover in the CB position.

    Injuries can be just as frustrating for everyone involved – player, supporter, manager and physio

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  • Robby Bobson

    Sep 29, 2012 at 10:37 AM

    Comment #6

    Sittin with the home fans today ;( so hard to contain myself and not celebrate, especially when hatem.gets on.the ball..at least i can applaud pards.

    Hope its perch and tayls at CB today…look so much more solid with perch in the central position. Big game.for anita.at.CM as hes.struggled abit and looked abit light defensively in that area so with .cheick providing the steal i hope he shines

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  • Tsunki

    Sep 29, 2012 at 10:39 AM

    Comment #7

    nico if pards is still here then it will only be because of winning things etc. !

    I note Fake Ruddy / Beardo got a sly post in. Obviously hasn’t had the bottle to lay his alter ego to rest oh dear. Now you have gone down a point in my estimation. You are now at point -1.

    If we could look at the other side of the coin to a long-term contract bringing complacency, is 8 years a long time to have a top job? Not really. If I was manager I would be looking now to get my staffs heads together and get a long-term plan together at all levels of the squad development, get that academy situation sorted out, even if it means pumping a couple of million into that before buying another player. Moving the baggage out (no offence to the young lads but the youth setup seemed to be a breeding ground for mediocrity and seemed to encourage lack of progress) and pushing young players up the team ladder so they had tougher competition has really started to sort the men from the boys. I wonder if the likes of Kadar have found the step up psychologically tough, likewise Abeid seems to be struggling while younger players seem set to bypass him to the first team. Well thats a good thing in my book. We need players who can walk straight in to cover a first team player without blinking, not perennial reserve players who are getting into their 20’s never having played a prem game.

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  • Super Magpie

    Sep 29, 2012 at 10:41 AM

    Comment #8

    Toon smart

    I think everyone was frustrated we didn’t bring a CB in the Summer.
    I just feel that Colo getting injured only worsens the situation.
    If any out of Saylor,Perch or Willo got injured we would be in real trouble.

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  • Tsunki

    Sep 29, 2012 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #9

    SuperMag – you forgot to pin the word ‘again’ to your last sentence.

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  • tequilamag

    Sep 29, 2012 at 10:44 AM

    Comment #10

    Tsunki. Any stand out players from last night ?

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  • Super Magpie

    Sep 29, 2012 at 10:46 AM

    Comment #11

    Tsunki

    That’s exactly what we are doing. I agree that alot of the younger players have been very average. Only Carroll, Saylor and Krul have came out of the youth system and had some form of success.

    The likes of Bigi (already 1st team, I know) Campbell, Abeid, maybe Vuckic all still have a chance to do so.

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  • Tsunki

    Sep 29, 2012 at 10:47 AM

    Comment #12

    tequilamag – unfortunately though I tried to get to watch it I failed miserably, one thing and another, but bollance did what looked like a balanced and well-received review a couple of posts ago. Hang on I will check…

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  • Nufc-83

    Sep 29, 2012 at 10:48 AM

    Comment #13

    If gosling is ahead of abeid then i don’t expect much from the kid tbh

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  • Tsunki

    Sep 29, 2012 at 10:52 AM

    Comment #14

    tequilamag –

    http://www.nufcblog.com/2012/09/28/why-alan-pardew-will-not-get-good-reception-at-reading/

    bollances posts @155/6 a good read.

    I am gutted about Abeid though. I really hope he doesn’t drop off the radar like Kadar.

    Ha! Radar/Kadar does that rhyme?

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  • tequilamag

    Sep 29, 2012 at 10:54 AM

    Comment #15

    Thanks mate, will read and absorb.

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  • ArtyH

    Sep 29, 2012 at 11:13 AM

    Comment #16

    Is there a stream for todays game guys? Looks like there is no sat t.v coverage, or am I wrong?
    Any advice welcome, cheers.

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  • jawballsaswallwell

    Sep 29, 2012 at 11:27 AM

    Comment #17

    I think the real value of a youth policy is often overstated and perhaps being over emphasized by Newcastle.. The only players in the past 10 years that we have successfully brought through the system are Taylor, Carroll and Krul, we can’t take any real credit for Bigi. By far the greater majority of young players don’t make it, so if we eventually produce one every couple of seasons we’ll be doing really well.

    It seems to me that the players who are going to make it at the highest level are essentially born not bred and clubs basically simply facilitate their rise, with some clubs better at this than others. Newcastle have traditionally been quite poor in this regard, considering the high number of Geordies who’ve played at the highest level at other clubs over the years.

    I think investing in youth is a great idea, particularly identifying genuine young talent as Carr has done, but it’s nowhere near enough, we will have to primarily bring in established quality if we are to continue to improve and the higher our profile becomes the harder it will be to unearth bargains.

    Mike is going to have to be prepared to put his hand in his pocket I’m afraid for all that has been achieved to continue and having come this far I think he will, otherwise we may have peaked and long term contracts won’t make the slightest difference.

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  • nickfish90

    Sep 29, 2012 at 1:31 PM

    Comment #18

    Catchy, give it a break! You’re boring me.

    How does Pards have his favourites – if Abeid isn’t cutting it then he isn’t cutting it. As much as i want him to make it, and still think he will and go on to be a great player for us, he obviously has dropped back in training.

    He still has plenty of time to make it and prove himself as a first team player – i mean just look at Perchy, who looked like a goner. Would you call him Pardew’s favourite? NO, Perchy has had to prove himself and thus deserves his place in the team.

    Grow up.

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