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• 1 catchy in norway // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:30 PM

  We all watched that yesterday, battling it was not,, lucky again

• 2 catchy in norway // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:33 PM

  Pardew , clueless , wimp, liar , and 8 more years of this:( it’s gona be a long 8 years, I think ppl are seeing what a few if us seen last year

• 3 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:37 PM

  Zzz change the tune catchy, you were boring a long time ago.

• 4 Burni // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:40 PM

  for you catchy, as you didnt have the decency to answer it before.

  Catchy, man U home, Liverpool home, Sunderland away, wolves home and away, wba away, Swansea away. Chelsea away. Villa home, Fulham home.

  The way we played in those matches was very very good. That’s why we were up the league.

  I cant U derstand how U can say we were poor or even lucky?

  Aye there were a few ha.es where we got tonked but so did arsenal, shit, so did man U.

  Be realistic man

  i will say that, yesterday we were lucky and against everton. I will also say that we have played poorly this season but last season, maybe once or twice.

  one other thing you mention about people watching the table rather than the game…… at the end of the day that is what counts isnt it? the answer is yes, no matter how you wanna sugar coat it. if we went on ur theory, ud be happy to watch us get beaten every game as long as we played well? just like man u mid week?

• 5 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:40 PM

  Fatman so you dont think Catchys tune is er well catchy then.

• 6 Burni // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:41 PM

  lol @ fatman

• 7 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:41 PM

  Catchy
  It certainly is going to be a long 8 years if we are stuck having to read you posting up the same badly spelled regurgitated shite every day! Maybe it would help if you could actually give a reason rather than throwing your little paddie’s!
  Pards is a liar pardews a puppet pardew has no spine blah blah blah zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

• 8 nico // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:42 PM

  I must say I have a lot of respect for Pardew but recently I’ve become frustrated with his team selections. Last season we played our best football playing 4-2-3-1 or a formation looking like that.
  This season I’ve watched every game and thought to myself ‘this is not entertainment’.
  Yes we are well organised and don’t look like conceding goals (uless our 2 best centre halfs are injured). Because of this we don’t look like scoring goals, unless we concede and then have to try to score and take more risks.
  How to solve this problem?
  Pards needs to ‘MAN UP’ and drop a few stars. If they want to leave in January then okay, off you go.
  Santon – RIGHT BACK
  Go out and buy a good left back (who is left footed)
  Play Ba up top with Cisse on thye bench (they can’t play together)
  Either play Guti in the centre or not at all (he no longer is capable of beating a man and getting a cross in)
  Buy a good centre half so we have some cover.

  I think if we do this we’ll progress.
  What do you think??

• 9 nico // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:43 PM

  Oh and start Fergie – He can cross a ball

• 10 Burni // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:44 PM

  nico agree with nearly everything just not santon RB.

  he prefers LB and is very good at it. its not gonna change just coz hes right footed

• 11 catchy in norway // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:44 PM

  I am only saying what I see and hear, he sets his team up to play defensive , hits long balls , says the same shit, we was magnificent or we was poor today ,
  Have we looked like a team at all this season

• 12 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:45 PM

  Nothing catchy about his tune whatsoever tequila.

  Dull and repetitive. Repetitive.

  Unfortunately posters like him and kets seem to spark the most debate on here. A necessary evil if you will.

• 13 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:46 PM

  Nico given that we had 4 our starting players out yesterday and lost a 5th in Taylor, dropping Cisse and Jonas may not be the wisest option.

• 14 Burni // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:47 PM

  catchy, please take the time to reiew my post and either disagree or agree please? me and u were having a nice conversation then I posted that, then u stopped talking. Is it because you concede that we actually played some magnificent football at times last season and as such our place in the league was not down to luck.

  u see how I agreed with you about the way we played this year? thats what men do.

• 15 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:50 PM

  Burni
  It wont happen if you can make a case against him twice he just stops talking same with me the other day!

• 16 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:52 PM

  Seems to me that luck is by definition an unusal occurence. Like say a hole in one. Cant see that you an be luky over an entire season,

• 17 Nufc-83 // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:53 PM

  Would agree with burni in that i agree with nico apart from santon lol.

  Can’t understand why people are happy with the point yesterday as reading will imo get relegated and if you want to be a top 6 team you need to be winning these games. Even with injuries that just highlights the lack of depth in the squad so its no excuse. I would have sympathy for the team if we played well and should have won but we were the lucky ones!!!

• 18 nico // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:53 PM

  tequilamag

  What’s the definition of a starting player?

  We have a squad and the players picked should be able to do a job in that position. I’m not saying drop Guti, but play him central and play Fergie wide.

  Burni
  Fair enough about Santon. I do like him but I wish he would shoot when he cuts inside. If Fergie was with him who is naturally left footed it would probably work.

• 19 Burni // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:54 PM

  I really dont mind people being negative re the team sometimes tads. as we all know were not playing as well as were capable of, but some of the tripe that knee-jerk posters contribute is infuriating at times.

• 20 Burni // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:55 PM

  tads, that three- nil beasting of man u HAD to be luck didnt it? or all the other games in my aforementioned list haha

• 21 nico // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:58 PM

  Burni
  Yes, I think some people really need to calm down before they post. Next Sunday at 6.30pm, we’ll all be on here saying what a great tactician Pards is as we beat Man U

• 22 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:58 PM

  If you are leading twice and only get a draw then its understandable to be unhappy. If you are losing twice and snatch a draw whilst not playing great then yeah I will take it. Newcastlte dont have a divine right to win every game, nobody has. Given the injury problems we have thats not such a terrible result. Look at Man U yesterday. On paper they should have walked it.

• 23 Burni // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:58 PM

  im pretty sure jonas will end up being a cm for defo.

  nico, Ive been screaming for fergie to play for two seasons now maybe three. first saw him in a couple o reserve matches and the kid is class.

  I agree re santon too, he does seem hesitent when he cuts in and it woukd be good to see him shoot some

• 24 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:59 PM

  Nufc83

  You are right, we are playing badly at the mo but robson’s school of thought was a draw away from home was fine if you were winning your home games. We’ve just beaten Norwich at home and got a point yesterday. I’ve got no doubt in my mind when players are back to performing at their best we’re going to be beating teams like reading at home easy.

  But yesterday was our poorest performance so far and I want to see much better against united. We should be beating teams like united accordin to kets.

• 25 Burni // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:59 PM

  fingers crossed eh nico?

• 26 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:00 PM

  Nico I would say Krul , Simmo, Colo and Cabs would be in most peoples starting 11. Granted Simmo is poison to a lot of posters., but in my opinion we have missed him this season.

• 27 Burni // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:01 PM

  lol @ fatman, this is one thing the toon have been good at for years though isnt it? maybe not raising their games to the top level every game but when they play the big lads we tend to do pretty well

• 28 Burni // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:02 PM

  tequila, I agree.

  when u see what simmo does and the stick he still gets you have to wonder what people want from a RB

• 29 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:04 PM

  We do. I think united are going to be smarting from that loss though and come out firing on all cylinders. We definitely cannot go into the game with the same approach as yesterday. Hope cabs is back – both in the line up and back to his best.

  Colo too. Simpson should be getting there I reckon. These players have been sorely missed.

• 30 cupiddstunt // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:06 PM

  catchless in norway @ # 2

  You are right of course, absolutely spot on it is going to be a long eight years.

  A daunting thought having to possibly put up with the like of you and the other negatively opinionated trolls posting whinging, moaning, carping dross for the next eight years.

  It’s about time you got control of your bigotry stepped back a little and looked at the situation for what it is and less of what your delusional little mind makes it look.

• 31 dave 1961 // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:06 PM

  what we need is to start one of our forwards each game then bring the other on for the last 30 minuets then we play a better formation, we don’t tire either one out, and we play our best team each game. your forwards are the players who get tired most (as they cover more ground), then your midfield, and lastly your defense i would play each game then rest them once or twice, this constant changing is pathetic when we have so many international breaks, and finally bring your kids on when you have cover for them not like yesterday when we dump a kid on when we don’t have any support for them, its crazy to have to bring on kids because you took a chance that every man and his dog knew would bite our a*rses.

• 32 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:16 PM

  Dave that’s a HUGE generalisation saying your forwards get tired first coz they cover the most ground!! You’re telling me cisse and shola will get tired quicker than colo or Ben arfa coz they cover the most ground?

  Depends on the type of game you play too! If you’re getting hammered constanty by a strong attacking side then your defenders generally get tired quicker. Even your keeper would! Likewise if you spend the 90 running at your opponents and attacking the whole game your attacking players will get tired quicker.

  I agree with the rest though. One striker up front with obertan or Ben arfa playing a free role behind him will suit our players much more.

• 33 Jail for Ashley // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:18 PM

  Burni,
  I’m not sticking up for catchy in anyway,shape or form but were you at the Wolves at home game last year it was absolute dross as was QPR,Norwich and Villa.

• 34 check the toastie // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:24 PM

  Burni – have you ever been to a game, certainly cant of gone to Wolves home and away last year, we were stinking at home, long hoofball. Lucky to escape with anything at Wolves. Swansea away, counter attacking performance, 30% possession, West Brom away the same.

  Actually in all those games i imagine our possession was less than 50%, it seems your list of games that we played so well in is a little shitty, i can most certainly make a list longer than that were we have been completely outplayed and so lucky to come away with any points,

  Chelsea away is our Stand out performance, however we were still indebted to 2 amazing strikes by Cisse to turn that game into a win.

  I would counter your list with games were we have been insepid, however it would take too long.

  My beef is we have talented technical footballers and i swear i havent seen any of them play a one-two in months. No great movement and certainly no attacking fluidity, no clue on how to create at times, just all a bit weird and its annoying the shit out of me.

  Jonas needs to be stood down.

• 35 dave 1961 // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:29 PM

  FatmanJoe
  i had to give a narrow view as i am commenting to hairy Arse* Bloke’s who know at least as much about football as i do, i felt i did not need to spell it out, and also i am not trying to convince anyone my opinion’s not as good as anyone else. i just feel too many are building the likes of Pardew up into some kind of cult hero and the higher you build him the more difficult for him to stay there. i don’t like Pardew, and don’t want too as all the ones i have liked have failed. i understand his many flaws and i therefore not need him to prove anything as when he has a full strength squad we will win more than we loose, and at the moment i only see one manager who i would rather have & that would be a risk. so until someone better comes around i will put up with Pardew, i will moan on here and support the team at the games.

• 36 Jail for Ashley // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:29 PM

  Check,
  Unfortunately I missed the Man U and Lpool games last season,the best I seen us play at home strangely enough, was the 0-3 against Chelsea apart from RTaylor being horribly found out I think we more than deserved something out of that game.

• 37 Nufc-83 // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:31 PM

  No matter how much you all sugar coat it if we want to be a top 6 side which i all hope we agree we should be then we need to be beating relegation fodder.

  What we want from a rb well that’s simple somebody who can actually add something when we have possession of the ball. Not asking for dani alves just a seamus Coleman will do solid defensively but causes the opposition problems is that too much to ask?

• 38 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:31 PM

  Even if our possession was low doesn’t mean we don’t play well. Counter attacking football has it’s own merits and we played that well. And we took our chances. I remember WBA away being excellent coz every time we went forward we looked dangerous and sharp.

  We can go backwards and forwards and everyone has a different opinion but it seems some people have better memories than others. We built this team with a minimum budget and they got us fifth. Not that long ago we were playing against Peterborough. Quality of football is something that happens later.

• 39 faustino // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:35 PM

  Fact is, if we had a fully fit squad who were firing on all cylinders and we’re bang in form and we were getting these results I’d be terrified.

  But, we don’t, they’re not and they ain’t. That’s the only positive we have going for us at the moment.

  You can flounder around blaming formation and individuals all you like, but at the end of the day we have a team/squad of players that are under performing ‘to a man’ and as a group.

  Our passing is woeful, but the main problem for me is that as a team we aren’t closing down when we lose the ball even half as effectively as we were at the same stage last season, and especially in the final third. This is why we currently have the leagues top scorer yet 9 points from a possible 18 and a GD of 0.

  Some intensity and spirit would not go a miss. It’s taken conceding a goal to ignite us on the pitch too many times.

  Sloppy is the kindest way I can describe our current form. Amateurish, immensely frustrating and sans-bloody-testicles would be more accurate.

• 40 Jail for Ashley // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:35 PM

  Fatman Joe,
  And not really that long ago we played Champions league football,were not some kind of Swansea resurrected from years in the wilderness.

• 41 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:36 PM

  Ha dave that’s a lot of words that actually amount to saying nothing at all. Where did hairy arse bloke come from? What on earth did that stream of consciousness actually mean?

  I’m off. Bring on Thursday!

• 42 pbNcl // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:37 PM

  now people are attacking PARDEW hahahahahahah

  get real man, where people been the last ten years!!!

  I suggest these people jump ship and be done with it, cos the constant whining about crap on here is irritating at least. I barely bother to read the comments these days cos there’s such a DOOM CLOUD and since im living on CLOUD NINE I’d rather talk football with people in real life who APPRECIATE the great work being done at our BEAUTIFUL club

• 43 jimmymagpie // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:40 PM

  Jesus, some people on here – the manager himself is telling you that the team is playing crap, and are picking up fortunate points at the moment, so stop talking deluded bolloc-s! Very telling replies from Pardew to 2 questions put to him by the Sunday press – It is LIKELY that Ba will go in January, and when asked if the club could satisfy his ambitions, the reply was ” I don’t know, you have to tailor your ambitions to the club that you’re at”. Those of you with even half a brain cell should be able to work that one out. By the way, the only time we played decent football last season was when we went 4-4-3. This squad isn’t set up to play good football with 4-4-2 because of the complete lack of pace in central midfield.

• 44 Rotonda heights // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:40 PM

  I have to say I loved watching us when we played in that winning streak in a 433 at the back end of last season, before fatally reverting back to 442.

  Benny apart, I just don’t enjoy watching us at all at the minute. We just don’t flow at all in this never ending 442 of Ba and Cisse which a blind man can see see aint working.

  Everything seems a struggle and forced, not natural free flowing passing and movement at all. With the players we have this should not be happening.

  It’s like they’re playing in straitjackets at the moment with the wrong people in the wrong positions in the wrong formation and just hoping something willl happen.

  You play Ba or Cisse. You don’t play Guti as a winger. Fergie can do this now. Perch is hugely improved but like Simpson offers nothing going forward at RB. Sell Gosling, sort out Abeid and don’t play Vuksic as a striker. These are all basic fundamental things.

  Krul

  Anita Saylor Colo Santon

  Tiote Bigi

  Cabaye

  Benny Ba Ferguson

• 45 jimmymagpie // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:42 PM

  Pb – some people live in the real world, and since when did you have the monopoly on football knowledge?

• 46 jimmymagpie // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:46 PM

  Rotonda – agree with every single word mate at 44. Without the inspiration of Benny, and incompetent officials, how many points would we have? What’s more, the manager agrees, so if we’re being negative, i.e. realistic, so is Pardew.

• 47 Rotonda heights // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:47 PM

  Quality of football should be a given when you have individuals on 50K a week. These aren’t Sunday morning pub players. If they aren’t good technicaly why are they at a premiership club with all that it entails?

• 48 Jail for Ashley // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:47 PM

  pbNcl,
  Unfortunately its human nature to have a whinge when things don’t go well,you can trawl the posts and you will find that after the Virgin sponsorship deal and then of course the signing of Cisse I didn’t moan once even after being served up the games I mentioned above,then after a torturous transfer window in which I hoped for the best ,especially after two stikers were released/sold,I felt as though a lot of false promises were delivered,imo Pards was hung out to dry again and left to publicly lie to the fans once more,maybe I should get over it but the failure to sign a CB after being identified as a weak spot and being promised one for over a year and a half has left me feeling the same way about Mashley as all of the other times he’s let us down.

• 49 Rotonda heights // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:49 PM

  Thanks Jimmy

• 50 pbNcl // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:49 PM

  jimmy

  I dont have the ‘monopoly’ of football knowledge and I dont claim to. No disrespect to you sir, but one thing I do have is unquestionable loyalty. I am not going to be drawn into arguments over the internet, all I am going to say is….

  sometimes you dont appreciate what you have till its gone

• 51 pbNcl // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:51 PM

  A pessimest sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.

  Winston Churchill

• 52 darrenfletcher88 // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:51 PM

  Being lucky got us a point!!!

• 53 pbNcl // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:52 PM

  I jus nicked that from somebody’s FB haha but its very fitting and relevant

  love and peace

• 54 Jail for Ashley // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:52 PM

  pbNcl,
  Yes, maybe he did but he was constantly pi$$ed.

• 55 JDdubai // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:53 PM

  Anyone who is happy with the way we are playing isnt in the real world. Yes we have an ok total of points and if we start to play well now then fair enough. But even Pardew is saying how crap we are playing.

  I listed all the games we have played so far a week ago and got slated for saying how poorly we have played, I will add Reading to that list now and I hope that is the final one but fear it wont be.

  There’s no fluidity, doesnt seem to be a style that we are trying to play. If you go 4-4-2 you need someone up front who can dominate in the air as we go direct with 4-4-2, therefore u need Shola in. And also someone on the left who can cross and attack. With this 4-4-2 can work but we are playing it with the wrong personnel so it wont work, the ball doesnt stick up front so keeps coming back and we dont have enough of the ball to control a match.

  If you go 4-2-3-1 then we play a shorter passing game, this was the only time last season when we consistently controlled matches, Cabaye, HBA, Cisse, Jonas all playing in their proper positions and we won 7 in a row or whatever it was. The only change to make right now is Ba up front, Jonas CM if playing with Fergie and Santon on the left, would be a lot more creative.

  It just feels like he is trying to squeeze his favoured players into a formation and style that doesnt suit them and that is causing the issues we have so far. Either change the formation to suit the players or change the players to suit this formation.

  Not being happy with the way we are playing doesnt make us anti-newcastle, it just shows that we are not blinded by loyalty to not be able to see the reality of our situation, its a lot better than defending everything because we think it makes us a proper supporter.

  If we can turn the corner and somehow start to play well and pick up points then its good news all round, but its now October and we havent played 1 good match yet, it cant be argued that its early-season rustiness or anything now, some of our performances have been shocking against poor teams.

• 56 dave 1961 // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:53 PM

  pbNcl
  we did appreciate the second half of last season but that has well and truly gone and back to the groundhog days, being a realist does not make you disloyal, very few would be wanting a change of management just a change of formation.

• 57 fray bentos // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:54 PM

  @check

  Yet again, another doomish post where it is stated that we have a talented team and that pardew should be better utilising it but then in the same breath some of our players are brandished as being rubbish, it’s a contradiction, I don’t get it.

  I don’t think we have the squad and team capable of playing silky smooth football week in week out (like many of you think) and pardew utilises when it’s tactically feasible like other mid table teams

• 58 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:54 PM

  Well at least its the regular critique we are getting now. I really dont mind the consteructive negative posts (I know that doesn’t make sense) made by sensible posters who have the big picture in their head as they see it. At least the likes of jimmy, dave, rotonda and a few others offer reasons, solutions and countering argument, just what I need so I don’t become over-confident and over-optimistic. It’s good to work out the flaws and centre also on the positive signs. Thats where the reasonable middle line is. We are all Mags, there’s no room for this ‘I told you we would fail’ nonsense with no observation or wit behind it. You can tell that normality returns as the hysteria dies down, thankfully.

• 59 jimmymagpie // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:55 PM

  Pb – don’t I know it mate, I appreciate more than ever the trophy winning entertaining team I used to have the pleasure of watching in the late 1940s to late 1950s, so please don’t doubt my loyalty after 65 years of support through mainly thin and thinner, but on blogs like this, even the loyalist of supporters are allowed to come on and question the way the team and certain players are performing, provided they get 100% behind them on match day, which I do and always have done, as though who sit near me would tell you.

• 60 Burni // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:56 PM

  check, season ticket holder, been to many many many games. before I was a season ticket holder, I have been to approximately 8 different locations to find one i think is best.

  I realise that wolves home was poor last season. Thats my mistake, i confused it with the 4-1 from last season. The rest of my list still stand imo.

  so what if swansea had more posession that to me shows how good of a team we have, we had 30% possession and we won 2-0.

  actually re reading ur post ur main ‘thing’ is possession….. well yeah there may have been times where our possession was below par but i stick to what I said, we played well in a lot of games last year. That is the point I was making and our fifth place finish could not have been luck due to those games

• 61 pbNcl // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:57 PM

  JFA hahahaha your right there mate I like it

• 62 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:58 PM

  JDDubai – I think most of us appreciate what you are saying mate but you are kinda basing it on the luxury of having the players who can fit into the ideal model, all being fit and ready, and the aren’t. You have to cut your cloth, and I think Pards is in an uncomfortable area of not being able to have much choice. We are going to have to see how he woks this one out, but better managers have had this kind of problem and failed.

• 63 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:59 PM

  *woks oh dear oh dear oh dear. Ken Hom our new motivational trainer?

• 64 Jail for Ashley // Sep 30, 2012 at 1:59 PM

  Burni,
  I had a feeling you thought it was the 4-1,that 2-2 last season was a truly horrible game.

• 65 nico // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:00 PM

  Rotonda heights Post 44

  I have to see I agree with that, its what I’ve said for a while. Now Fergie is coming through strong its time to give him his chance. Come on Pards, you know you want to

• 66 fray bentos // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:01 PM

  Even if you could consider us lucky last season, and lets say we deserved to finish 2 positions below, that’s still a good season for a recently promoted team with a new manager, get some realism in ya’s, Keegan era was a freak occurrence which is unlikely to happen again to any team, football has changed

• 67 Burni // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:01 PM

  aaah jimmy, raised ur head again, what after a bad performance? thats not like you.

  Your the type of supporter whos on here willing the team on every week and congratulating when they play well. oh wait ur not…. u only post when we have payed badly to have a whinge.. no one doubts ur loyalty maybe just the point of ur posts

• 68 woolerbill // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:02 PM

  Like I said yesterday, we are rubbish and no pardew PR will change that. If you put all your speaches together we should be sittlng in the top 4. From what I have seen this season we could be in the bottom 4 defore long. If s.Taylor goes we are done for

• 69 Marty-Toon // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:03 PM

  We don’t have a divine right to win bu we should have a divine right to see our players pass the ball 5 yards to eachother.
  They use a football everyday for hours a day and yet a day like yesterday you’d think the thing was boiling hot when they kicked it.
  As Harps said,AP let the lads know that this type of quality they’re showing isn’t gonna cut it.
  A point was good yesterday as we didn’t deserve anything else.
  Man utd are there for the taking,yesterday their defence was showing how slow they are with Wio in there.
  Although they’ve a lot of firepower up front and in midfield,we must be able to have Ben Arfa taking them on and hopefully Fergie whipping in good crosses.

• 70 pbNcl // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:03 PM

  Jimmy, I was in no way questioning your loyalty and actually respect your opinion quite highly. I was jus passing a remark and it was not aimed at you. Youve seen more in black and white than I possibly ever will

  I jus think, for arguments sake, If big mike ashley were to read this blog on some days, and take it to heart and then sack pardew…… I can guarantee that in less than 6 months people will be reminiscing about this era!

  We are playing badly AND picking up points, were not loosing games and we are yet to hit form

  Patience my friends, patience and faith

  enjoy the ride

• 71 nico // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:05 PM

  Burni

  A lot of home games were good last season, entertaining with good results. We should have smashed Wolves as well 2-0 up. The season before I believe we beat them 5-0 with Best scoring a hattrick.
  I did enjoy seeing us play 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 or some variations of that, we just looked more natural. If we play 4-4-2 we need a target man like Shola up there.

• 72 jimmymagpie // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:05 PM

  For what it’s worth, the team that I would pick in 4-4-3 is: Krul, Santon, Colo, SAylor, Fergie, Tiote, Bigi/Anita, Cabaye, Benny, Ba, and Shola. I believe Santon and Fergie are as good as any other full backs defensively, and offer far more going forward. I would tell Cabaye to come no further back than the half way line, and Shola because he can play left of the 3 without complaint, and dovetails better with Ba than Cisse does. Papiss can concentrate on getiing his game/confidence back in the Europa games.

• 73 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:08 PM

  What about in 10 games or so, when all players are back, both strikers have found form and fergie has more game time.

  Krul
  Simmo Saylor colo santon
  Cabaye/Anita/tiote/Jonas/fergie obv choose four lol
  Ben arfa
  Ba/cisse

• 74 Burni // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:08 PM

  I agree with ur post @ 72 jimmy 100%

  (pinches self)

• 75 jimmymagpie // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:08 PM

  Burni – I’ve been here all week, where’ve you been. If I only posted after bad performances, I would have living on here for a while now – don’t you listen to what you’re manager is saying, or is he wrong as well, after all, I’m only echoing what he has said after nearly every game this season.

• 76 Marty-Toon // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:10 PM

  Woolerbill
  We’re hardly done for if Sayls goes.
  We will definitely get a center half in January as the board are seeing how big a mistake it was not to add someone .
  Hopefully the lad Good from Australia will be a decent buy and get in the team as an utd showed letting their young players on the field gives them experience and quality by playin against decent players.
  We’ve got a few players coming thru the ranks also

• 77 jimmymagpie // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:12 PM

  Pb – there is no way that I want Pardew sacked, but please read his interview with the Sundays carefully, as I said above.

• 78 jimmymagpie // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:15 PM

  Marty – I like Tayls, but I have to say that he hasn’t found the commanding form he was in when he got his injury. Of course, it’s early days and the lad was out a long time. At first, I feared he’d suffered a reoccurence yesterday – relieved to hear that is not the case, because we’ll need him and Colo against Rooney and Van Persie next week.

• 79 ppb // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:17 PM

  does anybody else think pards is grooming fergy into taking that lm slot from Jonas?

• 80 nico // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:17 PM

  Team for Man Utd: If all fit.

  …………………Krul (Hopefully)………………
  Anita………..Collo……..Saylor……..Santon
  ………………..Tiote……..Perch…………………
  Arfa………………..Cabaye………… Ferguson
  …………………………Ba……………………………

  Subs: Cisse, Willo, Obertan, Tav, Guti, Harps, Shola

• 81 Burni // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:18 PM

  Jimmy, Im on every day. And you DO have a tendency to post when something bad has happened so you can have a lil whinge.

  I do listen to pardew, Im not too supportive or overly positive, I can see that we have been playing badly this season. I have never said that we arent.

• 82 Burni // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:19 PM

  I hope so ppb

• 83 jimmymagpie // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:21 PM

  Ppb @ 79 – I wouldn’t argue with that mate. Anyway lads, time for my late lunch. Thanks for the craic. HTL!

• 84 ppb // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:22 PM

  @burni if he keeps gettin sub appearances it looks very similar to the hba situation last year. easing him in

• 85 nico // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:22 PM

  ppb
  Maybe the grooming is over. Time to show him off.

• 86 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:23 PM

  Good afternoon from raining Ibiza.

  Tsunki….I heard your call and got here as quick as I could (well, that’s a lie).

  Is this a good time or am I likely to feel suicidal after about five minutes?

• 87 jimmymagpie // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:24 PM

  Burni – I’m on most days mate, but I don’t live on the thing. As you can imagine, I have to do things in short bursts at my age, but I do come on, normally about this time of day, good or bad, and I promise you, I do praise where I think it’s due. A few days ago, I was waxing lyrical over Benny and young Bigi. Take care mate, speak soon.

• 88 pbNcl // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:25 PM

  ibiza……. I wouldnt like to say mate hahhahaha

• 89 Burni // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:26 PM

  ppb, I thought that was going to happen at the end of the 2010/11 season, last season he didnt feature…..

  I want this kid to play for us, I rate him much higher than the likes of vuckic and abeid.

• 90 jimmymagpie // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:26 PM

  Ibiza – sorry mate, lunch time. Catch you soon. Enjoy the rain!

• 91 pbNcl // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:27 PM

  this is one thing, what a player Bigi is! I didnt know he had such pace, he really is looking the full package…. at 18….. and at 1m! What a successful transfer window (hides and waits for inevitable onslaught) hehe

• 92 Burni // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:28 PM

  fair do’s jimmy. I guess I just havent seen it.

  take it easy

• 93 Burni // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:29 PM

  Bigi has to be the stand out buy so far but you never know amalfitano is showing a lot of promise too

• 94 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:30 PM

  Jimmy…Enjoy? The rain? You northerners and your sense of humour! Have a good lunch.

  pbNcl…I could hazard a guess Hmmm….might have to slip off and continue with my weekend festival of fifa13.

• 95 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:31 PM

  Am I right in remembering people were slagging Bigi last night after the Reading game?

  pbNcl….I admire the way you avoid certain topics as to keep a calm blog

• 96 cupiddstunt // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:31 PM

  Jimmymagpie @ # 46

  I would like to say I find it a constant source of amusement but sadly I can’t so have to say I find it funny (but not in an amusing way) how almost all the negative posters on here like yourself will regularly make claim to being “realists.”

  When in fact you along with all the other negative posters are equally if not more guilty of “talking deluded bolloc-s!”

  A pragmatist you are not so step away from your deluded claim of being a realist.

  You quote AP as “I don’t know, you have to tailor your ambitions to the club that you’re at” all he has done is to state a fact, he is not a fortune teller he does not know the future so he does not know if the club will or will not fulfil his ambitions. The second part of the quote is again quite factual you do have to tailor your ambitions to the club you are at, i.e. your current situation and as this is always in a state of flux then those ambitions change to suit.

  It appears that your half a brain cell leapt at the possibility that meant no the club will not fulfil his ambitions and THAT is not in any way shape or form being a realist.

  I am not all that sure that the 4.4.3 you apparently watched was the same games that I was able to watch but hey ho maybe just more proof that half brain cells do not always see things as they really are.

• 97 Burni // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:32 PM

  ibiza u on ps3?

• 98 cupiddstunt // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:32 PM

  Sorry @ #43

• 99 bills-son // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:34 PM

  I like the look of Jimmymags team at 72 if we are playing 433 – Shola had one of his best ever games against ManU last season.

• 100 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:37 PM

  Burni…I am indeed. I added you last night, or at least I think I did. Fairly new to playing PS3 online, as in, last night new

  Pretty sure I got ppb added, so think I’m on the right track.

• 101 Burni // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:38 PM

  nee bother, Ill be on in a bit if u fancy a game.

  anyway fellow bloggers, Ill catch yas after

• 102 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:39 PM

  Burni….I’ll look out for ya when I’m next on. Take it easy.

• 103 ashwin say's // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:42 PM

  from very first game of season we have played 45 mins on pitch and other 45 mins we are just catching up the opponents.
  c,mon lads we can do better than this

• 104 magpiepoot // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:44 PM

  Nico Good team choice
  Get ferguson on- quite agree!

• 105 JDdubai // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:54 PM

  @Cupidstunt 96

  Ur saying anyone who thinks we havent played well this season is “talking deluded bollokcs”?

  Can you tell me of a game where we have played well? And not for 15 mins after conceding, Im talking about a game where we have played well, controlled a game, looked like we have a plan that we are going with etc…

  Fact is our performances have been that of a mid table-lower table side and only luck, poor officials and serious graft have got us the return so far that we have, Pardew has pretty much come out and said as much.

  Its not the end of the world or anything but if we are serious about making the top 6 this season then we have to start right now and perform like a top 6 side.

  Like I said before it looks to me like he is trying to squeeze the players he likes into a formation that doesnt suit them.

  Its either 4-4-2 with Shola up front to hold the ball up and flick on as we go direct with 4-4-2 and Cisse and Ba arent strong enough to hold the play up, with Jonas NOT on the left wing, or its 4-2-3-1 with Ba up front and Jonas DM.

  Either pick the formation that suits the players he wants to use, or pick the players to suit 4-4-2.

  Either formation will work as long as the personnel is right.

  I think the most frustrating thing is that we saw how good we can play last season, especially with the 4-2-3-1 formation that Pardew came up with and this season he seems determined not to give it a go again for reasons that are baffling.

• 106 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 3:03 PM

  cupid – it was YOU who ‘broke’ the blog with the italics, wasn’t it Fancy breaking it again, it all seems to look so much happier when it’s italicized.

• 107 cupiddstunt // Sep 30, 2012 at 3:05 PM

  Burni @ # 92

  I am guessing the “I guess I just havent seen it.” Is about the jimmymagpie claim to having posted praise.

  Well I can testify that there have been some remote elements of praise although these have been let’s say well hidden amongst his constant negative posting.

  He is in my opinion very guilty of sparse and very selective praise while at the same time practising blanket negativity.

  He also is guilty of posting up his age and how long he has been a supporter of NUFC as if this makes him something special and more of a supporter than the rest of the blog. He has also tried using his age like a proof that what he says has to be right.

  There will be some on this blog that will support the club for longer than he will, but does that make them any more or less right than him?

• 108 tarie4 // Sep 30, 2012 at 3:10 PM

  I wonder how long David Moyes would have lasted in the Newcastle job, certainly not the 10 years his been at Everton. After his (normal) poor start to the season, fans would have been calling him names, the likes of jimmymagpie would be saying (2points from 2 away games etc etc. How the club is poorly run by Ashley and del boy) funny everyone seems to be signing long term contracts, and saying that the club is on the up, most of the staff have been told that the higher Newcastle finish up the league, the more bonus they get
  But hey I must be one of those jimmy says are oh so clueless and deluded, as we are going no where under Ashley. (I mean ur buddies at nufc are getting the same treatment from Ashley as SD workers, ie bonus schemes etc) but hey, they are unhappy how the club is being run

  also why are pple so negative?? I think you will find that no nufc supporter will say we are playing brilliant football, or are pleased with the performances, but some will say atleast we are picking up points. While others will say we are headed for mid table, and last season was a fluke. Etc pards is clueless jonas is useless etc etc
  Who is the most realistic out of those 2??
  We are going to play well we proved it last season, but what got us to 5th was not beating man U 3-0 (we were fantastic that night) or Chelsea (same as man U)
  It was beating Blackburn 2-0 (we were awful) drawing with qpr (how lucky were we they had bothroyd upfront )
  If U want to know how man U have dominated the bpl its
  because of that. Picking up points when U play dreadfully and picking up points when U play brilliantly.
  Mid table teams lose wen they play dreadful and sometimes lose/draw when they play brilliant.(reading yday) See the big difference.

  lighten up lads, we have been dreadful yes (I am as frustrated as the next guy, most fans are) but we have 9 points from 6 dreadful games. With most our regulars missing for most of those games.
  we went 11 games unbeaten last tym out, how many times did pards change the starting 11. Perspective

• 109 ppb // Sep 30, 2012 at 3:14 PM

  ibiza you added me but i was busy

• 110 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 3:17 PM

  well said tarie.

• 111 tarie4 // Sep 30, 2012 at 3:20 PM

  cupiddstunt

  I agree with you. And as for jimmy giving praise, I must have missed that. This is the guy who in January was saying how lucky we were in our unbeaten run and how after we lost Taylor we were dreadful (correct he was I must say) and pards had lost the plot and we would freefall (most agreed with him)
  But in May we finished 5th. And I kept a close eye on him. Not once did he say pards proved him wrong, oh gave him praise. Not once!!! Most came out and said they were wrong and praised pards, some gave Ashley a little praise. He did not.

• 112 jimmymagpie // Sep 30, 2012 at 3:20 PM

  @ 107 – I’ve had enough of this sh-t from you. I have never considered myself a beter supporter than anyone. It’s not my fault if you can’t hack it that some of us ahve actually seen this club win things, and if you’re going to continue coming on here, have the good grace to spell your right, you stupid —-!!

• 113 cyprus // Sep 30, 2012 at 3:20 PM

  Will just stay with the pluses:
  Harper doing very well.
  Williamson puts his body on the line, had a very good game.
  Bigi will become even better.
  Tiote is back!
  Santon is very good, as good as Enrique.
  Fergie is fearless.
  Ba back to his best.

  Don’t worry about Cisse, if you are watch the man u game.

• 114 jimmymagpie // Sep 30, 2012 at 3:27 PM

  Tarie – wrong again – I never said we would go into freefall. I DID say that the defence was crap without Tayls, and the figures prove it. I gave Pardew full respect for what he did in SPITE of Ashley. Some of you seem to think that everything is rosy financially, despite the club being £148m in debt, more than £30m more than when he took over, despite many redundancies, and the sale of nearly fixed asset the club owned. Just because he is the only creditor, you think there’s no debt. He wants every penny back, which is why we have the present transfer policy, and I repeat, I give Pardew full credit for the job he is doing with his hands tied. Now, that’s my lot. Can’t be bothered to discuss things with abusive individuals, who only want to listen to people who agree with them. |I hope you don’t have kids, having to listen to your vile abuse, and doing everything Daddy Hitler says.

• 115 dave 1961 // Sep 30, 2012 at 3:28 PM

  someones posted yesterdays game on Usenet if anyone’s interested.

• 116 tarie4 // Sep 30, 2012 at 3:34 PM

  jimmymagpie

  U did not give pards praise, no way did U do, and yes U did say we were in freefall. Remember ur posts of how poor form was like??
  And please do not call me names, I have not done the same to U,

  Please show me ur post U praised pards?? Was it tds, who ruddy, beatie who during the summer questioned U on it. And U threatened to leave the blog.
  U did not say U were wrong and pards was brilliant and deserved his praise. U did not

• 117 Nufc-83 // Sep 30, 2012 at 3:34 PM

  Jddubia every time i read your posts today i feel like its exactly what i am thinking spot on imo .

• 118 tarie4 // Sep 30, 2012 at 3:36 PM

  jimmymagpie

  U did also say U were a better supporter than most of us, because U knew the history of the club better than us (remember during the statue of sir bobby??) U did say U were a better supporter

• 119 jimmymagpie // Sep 30, 2012 at 3:37 PM

  Tarie – you’re wrong mate, honestly! I did say the things about the defence, and believe that I was right, look at the goals against. My beef has NEVER been with Pardew, but as regards Ashley, I admit it, and hold my hands up. I apologise about the abuse, it was really meant for the idiot who threw it at me. Forgive me, I’m sorry!

• 120 jimmymagpie // Sep 30, 2012 at 3:41 PM

  Tarie – again, I never said that I was a better supporter, but yes I did say that I know the history of the club better than most, because I have STUDIED it and will test that knowledge any time you want, but I repeat, that does not make me a better supporter than anyone. The point about Sir Bobby that i was making, was why not a statue to Joe Harvey for FORTY years service including the history making years of the 1950s. I must go, but I do apologise again for the previous.

• 121 tarie4 // Sep 30, 2012 at 3:43 PM

  jimmymagpie

  I accept ur apology, on commend U on it.

• 122 jimmymagpie // Sep 30, 2012 at 3:43 PM

  Tarie – thank you, I appreciate that. HTL!

• 123 cupiddstunt // Sep 30, 2012 at 3:45 PM

  JDdubai @ # 105

  I don’t know which group you are putting yourself into, jimmies positive’s spouting bollocks or my negative’s spouting bollocks, although I am guessing from your first sentence you are putting yourself in the negative category.

  What I am saying is the neggers on here that constantly claim to be REALISTS are equally if not more deluded that the posters they are calling deluded if you feel you fit there then I am happy for you outside of that you have read my post wrong.

  I think if you read more of my posts you will find that I simply have a tendency to question general destructive negative postings.

  Your post @ 55 was somewhat critical but qualified with information about observation which basically made for a readable post, I have no problems whatsoever with constructive criticism, it is the constantly extrapolating the negative from the anything less than positive quotes.

  Historically since the football league began NUFC have averaged around 7th place in the top flight if I remember correctly, although since the advent of the prem we have averaged 8.5 place.

  I am a realist I accept that we are what we are at any given time as that is how we are performing, I do not play computer football games so do not delude myself into thinking I know better than the manager/board as so many on here appear to do I do not drag the memories of when we were a top team (50plus years ago) and compare today to then. I accept that our results put us where we should be and that is where we are, make of that what you will.

  Tsunki sorry had to ask Ed to do repairs after the last time so no wanting to chase him up again to do the same, although I agree it did appear to lend the blog a bit of class although my eyesight not being what it used to be (doing a jimmymagpie here with the age thing) I found the grey type harder to read.

• 124 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 3:52 PM

  cupid – oh well never mind, dont want to get you in hot water with ED!

  If I may play devil’s advocate for a moment, jimmy may come across as pretty negative, and although age doesn’t make you a ‘better supporter’ it does mean having a legacy of seeing NUFC in the doldrums for many years. I can sympathise because even though I am not of his era, I often wonder if I will ever see us win anything again in my lifetime. Just a bit of perspective.

• 125 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 3:54 PM

  Anyway, anyone up for some waffling tripe?

  No? Well here it is anyway -

  http://www.caughtoffside.com/2012/09/30/liverpool-line-up-sensational-newcastle-united-striker-swap-bid/

  Funny how a grain of truth can make a loaf of rumour….

• 126 dave 1961 // Sep 30, 2012 at 3:56 PM

  cupiddstunt
  are you saying that the 99% of fans that knew we needed to strengthen the defense were in fact just wrong, and the likes of Ashley Llambias & Pardew are correct, and we did not need to strengthen.

• 127 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 3:56 PM

  …and finally from the same people, a little something for Ketsy to bash one off to –

  http://www.caughtoffside.com/2012/09/30/newcastle-united-target-montpellier-playmaker-younes-belhanda/

• 128 cupiddstunt // Sep 30, 2012 at 4:17 PM

  Jimmymagpie @ # 112

  You have put up with enough what from me, I take your generally rubbish negative posting to task once and you claim you have put up with enough from me like it is something regular.

  YOU DO use you age and your health like a shield, why else did posters on here try to defend you the last time you spat the dummy out by saying you were old and not in the best of health, had you not posted that info up first?

  I was (as posted previously on here) at the 55 game so have seen the club win things I am also an old man so have no respect for someone flinging their age around like it should mean something. All it means is you are old and a lot closer to your end than your beginning.

  And as for post @ # 114 “Now, that’s my lot. Can’t be bothered to discuss things with abusive individuals,” did you not start the so called vile abuse like in your last line of post # 112

  As for continuing to come on here why should I have to modify my pseudonym to do that?

  So in keeping with the tone of your last line of post # 112 my pseudonym is courtesy of Kenny Everett you stupid old —-!!

  Although I’m not really too sure just what “—-!!” means I am just assuming it is your own twisted little way of being vilely abusive without actually typing the sweary words.

• 129 cupiddstunt // Sep 30, 2012 at 4:31 PM

  dave 1961 @ # 126

  Nope not at all, I think everybody knew we really should have strengthened certain positions, but a lot were coming on here saying this and that happened for this and that reason without a shred of proof to their claim.

  Much like jimmymagpie and his claim about AP’s quote, people posting up pure garbage like it was fact, posting like they knew exactly what was in the heads of the board and manager.

  I do not remember AP,DL and MA ever saying we did not need to strengthen I would like read what they had to say could you point me to it.

• 130 ToonDownSouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 4:32 PM

  If watching football & following Newcastle saps all the enjoyment out of your life, and leads you to a point where you spend your days posting angry, abusive, negative messages on the internet, then it’s safe to say that you should probably find a new hobby.

  It’s unhealthy to spend all your time – and in some cases money – being unhappy, depressed and angry over a game of football.

  I think it should be fairly clear if this post applies to you.

• 131 ToonDownSouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 4:35 PM

  Also, we have played 4-3-3 at times this season, and it has not been the magical solution that so many of you seem to imagine.

  So please – shut the hell up about it.

• 132 ppb // Sep 30, 2012 at 4:35 PM

  right tds im off!!! lol

• 133 steveno7 // Sep 30, 2012 at 4:38 PM

  Is t match on tv this week

• 134 zimtoon // Sep 30, 2012 at 4:38 PM

  Really hate this long ball tactic we played yesterday and Jonas has been ineffective as he seems to play just to win freekicks only

• 135 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 4:40 PM

  TDS
  You……..you mean were supposed to enjoy football?? Like its a pass time or something?

  Your right though far to many miserable people who you wonder why the hell do you bothet supporting us when all you seem to want us us to do badly simply so they can say i told you so!!

• 136 Ashton // Sep 30, 2012 at 4:41 PM

  We are the luckiest sports team in the world!!. Every point we’ve got this season was undeserved and we’ve been totally outplayed by everyone so far. Tactically we’ve been horrific and our luck will run out very soon. We have world class players yet we play shit football with shit tactics. We can do so much better then this but we are not and it’s all Pardew’s fault.

• 137 ppb // Sep 30, 2012 at 4:44 PM

  @Ashton while tests a fair statement we really don’t have world class players tbh. we have internationals, but none world class. yet.

• 138 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 4:44 PM

  Ashton
  Its almost like TDS could see into the future!!!
  Unbelievable!

• 139 ppb // Sep 30, 2012 at 4:52 PM

  missed that bit about it all being pards fault. that’ll be the no button from me

• 140 Ashton // Sep 30, 2012 at 4:54 PM

  ppb

  Yes we do. Tiote is one of the best at his position so is Ben Arfa, Coloccini. Cabaye, Ba, Cisse and Krul are top class players and amongst the best in the PL.

• 141 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 4:59 PM

  Ashton
  Yeah but tiote cabaye coloccini and krul hacent been playing have they you cant take away the spine of the team and expect them to still be playing good football
  And what part is pards fault? If i remember you were slating him for not playing 4-4-2, now he is so what has he done to upset you so

• 142 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:00 PM

  Still can’t believe the arrogance of Ferguson’s comments on extra time yesterday.

  saying the referee’s job is to give them a chance to win the game?! Mental.

• 143 ppb // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:03 PM

  @Ashton krul can’t kick. he’s a top notch shot stopper though (world class buffon, casillas)
  tiote is a wall and a game change but also loses the ball dangerously (world class xabi alonso)
  ba and cisse are great but there are much better strikers (van persie, aguero)
  cabaye is a class act but can improve and you only need to look at the Spain quad to see he’s nowhere near world class
  Ben arfa can change a game on his own but you can’t tell me he’s in ronaldos league therefore no world class

• 144 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:04 PM

  Tads or whichever one of you said it – bang on! Too many people spend too much time moaning. I haven’t found one poster yet that said we played well yesterday yet some of us just get on with it and hope for better next week.

• 145 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:05 PM

  @ppb – Krul’s kicking is horrendous, practically a 50/50 whether the ball will stay on the pitch or not.

• 146 ppb // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:05 PM

  oh and Colo is solid but vidic and pique are much better and more complete

• 147 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:06 PM

  Like I said before, if it disappoints, lower your expectations. That’s what my wife taught me.

• 148 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:06 PM

  Tds not Tads sorry.

• 149 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:06 PM

  Ppb
  Completly agree krul really either needs to take some kicking lessons off harps or just start plauing it short because he basically turns possesion every goal kick, although we havent missed him as much as i thought we would which is a huge credit to harps elliott and woodman

• 150 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:07 PM

  OK what happened to the ‘swap ba for carroll’ rubbish i posted? what really not a bite? Pah!

• 151 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:08 PM

  Tsunki
  No comment!!

• 152 Ashton // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:08 PM

  toonarmydownsouth

  We shouldn’t play 442. It doesn’t suit us because we don’t have the players for it to work out. Playing hoofballs all the time toward Ba, Cisse doesn’t work because they are not target men. Yet we are sticking with it and it’s our only way to create chances. This shouldn’t be the case. We have the players to play a simple passing game like we did last season in when we played with the 433 but Pardew doesn’t want to use that formation because he doesn’t want to upset a player or two in his team.

• 153 toonarmy81 // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:09 PM

  Newcastle on bloody ESPN again dis week. Woz lookn forward to watchn da toon in Europe on ITV 4 only seen 1 match so far!!! Hope we get sum gud results over the nxt 3games howay the lads…

• 154 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:10 PM

  Ashton
  Unbelievable all during the build to the everton you were absolutly slating the guy for NOT playing 442 and saying we should be playing 442 you must be one of those ppl who you just cant please no matter what

• 155 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:13 PM

  Tsunki
  If its on caught offside it normally bull sh1t

• 156 Ashton // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:17 PM

  ppb

  You know nothing about football. Slating Krul’s kicking and saying he should kick like Casillas!!! are you for real? Casillas is shit at kicking and the reason you see Krul kicking so many balls out of play is because he kicks balls 10 times more than Casillas per game. Because we play hoofballs all the time. I bet you’ve never seen Krul play for Holland were he just passes the ball like we should and he is brilliant at it for a goalkeeper.

  Also comparing Alonso to Tiote???????? They are totally different players. Tiote is a ball winner and one of the best for that matter were as Alonso is a deep laying midfielder and when it comes to ball wining Tiote is 1000X better.

  Also Ben Arfa is right up there with the best and if you don’t know that then I feel sorry for you.

• 157 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:20 PM

  tads I know mate I was attempting to throw a couple of flashbangs in here ha ha.

• 158 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:20 PM

  “you know nothing about football” the classic line from somebody who knows nothing about football!

• 159 Ashton // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:21 PM

  toonarmydownsouth

  You are just making things up to look like you are smart and that’s pathetic. Find the comment where I slated Pardew for NOT playing 442 and should be playing 442? You can’t because I haven’t made those comments.

• 160 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:23 PM

  Ashton
  Bollocks! We switched at half time and you were giving it all “thats what i said we should playing from the start”

• 161 Ashton // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:24 PM

  toonarmydownsouth

  That’s so deep! I’m enlightened right now.

  How about trying to prove me wrong instead of trying to be a quasi guru?

• 162 Ashton // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:26 PM

  toonarmydownsouth

  You are just lying to yourself. I’ve never said those things. Prove some citations instead of looking like a fool.

• 163 ppb // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:26 PM

  Ashton my point about casillas is he’s better than krul in general.
  alonso and tiote may be different players ill give you that. a better comparison would be that is tiote as good as essien was at his best? i personally don’t think so.
  and Ben arfa i agree is top class but there is a difference between top class and world class. could you honestly see a real Madrid, Barcelona, bayern, chelsea or man city offering 30-40m+ for Ben arfa?
  world class is surely being seen as the best or equal to the best in your position. and please don’t spout the “you know nothing about football” line its overused and belittles the user more than the recipient

• 164 ppb // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:29 PM

  show me where i said he should kick like casillas. nice misquote…

• 165 Ashton // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:33 PM

  ppb

  Krul is world class and he is a top five GK in the world. And Tiote is world class and there is no one like him in the world and the fact that you say he isn’t as good as Essian was proves me right. He is miles ahead of Essian right now and everyone at his position. Also I do think Ben Arfa is worth 30 mil absolutely!. And he could walk on every team you’ve mentioned.

• 166 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:33 PM

  Ashton, you had a bad day pal? You sound angry.

  Krul’s kicks are shit. Never seen them hit their intended target! And you talk about his international career like he’s a seasoned pro – 3 times has he played for holland? 4 maybe. His kicks needs to be improved! And if you don’t know that, you… Know the famous line.

• 167 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:35 PM

  Quite clearly he’s not worth that much – if those teams wanted him they’d have him. 30m. We’d snap their hands off!

• 168 Ashton // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:36 PM

  ppb

  That wasn’t the main point. You said Krul can’t kick and I proved you wrong and told you why it seems that way. Nice reading comprehension..

• 169 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:37 PM

  To be fair to Ashton he was calling for 433 before the Everton game. He was also saying Pardew was gutless for not dropping BA.Well he got his wish we played 443 dropped BA and played crap in the first half.
  Weirdly enough he seemed to think we actually played better in that first half because he is incapable of admitting he got it wrong.

• 170 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:38 PM

  I think I am on record re the quality of Tim’s kicking. It was a lowlight going back a couple of years now. The fact he has to do it shows the confidence he has in any of our defenders to play it out. ho hum.

• 171 Nufc-83 // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:39 PM

  I wouldnt say world class means being the best player in your position. World class to me means being one of the top players in your position in your respective league (if its one of the top leagues that is). You cant say that the likes of ronaldo and messi are world class as they are above that and some of the greatest footballers to play the game. I would say Colo Krul cabaye and HBA are world class players as they are some of the best players in arguably the best league in their positions.

• 172 ppb // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:40 PM

  i don’t think benny would “walk into” any of those teams.
  tiote is an incomplete player. he is good but simply a ball winner. and i said when essien was at his best. ie not now
  and even if krul is top 5 (in my opinion not) he is still not equal to the best keepers so how is that world class? are the best ones world class+?

• 173 Ashton // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:42 PM

  FatmanJoe

  When a GK kicks the ball 50 times+ in a game the possibility of misplaced kicks are a lot higher then a GK who kicks the ball 10 times per game. And Ben Arfa is worth 30 mil and the only reason no one has bid that much for him is because of his “infamous attitude”

• 174 ppb // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:44 PM

  you “proved” me wrong?
  ok when? i said krul can’t kick. i was right.
  i said he’s not world class (an opinion you can’t prove wrong tbf) like casillas. two separate points.
  you proved nothing

• 175 Nufc-83 // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:44 PM

  HBA would walk into any team in world football imo and would look even more dangerous than he does for us as he would be attacking more and be allowed more freedom and linking up with top class players all over the pitch.

• 176 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:46 PM

  You’re using extremes to prove a point. His kicks are awful.

  There hasn’t been any evidence of his attitude since he left France and he has played well. Yet title chasing teams haven’t been sniffing at all. Seems strange does it not?

• 177 MagpiesFlyHigh // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:47 PM

  It’s more than a bit disappointing the number of keyboard duels getting started on here. It is pretty discouraging to post anything against the background noise of fans slagging each other.
  I can understand Catchy getting it from most guys – it is interesting he hates Pardew more than Obertan. Doesn’t sound like a true fan to me. I’m chuffed we have got stability and a manager who is good enough to take us forward, (though he’s obviously not as tactically savvy as most fans.)
  Sometimes I think the best thing about the Toon is the fans, and the worst thing about the Toon is the fans. We are a top ten side at present, having a poor run of form, with a few key injuries and a small experienced squad. If we were playing well we’d have 4 pts more than we have as we’d have beaten Reading and Villa. The worst unrealistic expectation is that we are going to get a CL place this season.. Europa if we’re lucky.

• 178 ppb // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:47 PM

  @Ashton attitude never stopped anyone from buying tevez or ronaldo or even rooney for 30+

• 179 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:48 PM

  Ashton can you now at least man up and concede you got it wrong on BA ?

• 180 Ashton // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:49 PM

  tequilamag

  We were tighter in the first half and didn’t allow them many spaces and conceded once only because of an individual defensive mistake and miss-communication between Perch and Marv. In the second half we conceded three perfectly good goals and got extremely lucky. We were awful in that game period.but tactically we were better in the first half.

• 181 steveno7 // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:50 PM

  U lot are all bangin on about t krul”s .
  Shay given was when at toon probs the gk with the ball at his feet but his prowess in shot stopping game winning saves and overall top world class quality goal keeping over shadowed that.
  As is with tk.
  Hes young still learning his trade so he will only improve on his week points

• 182 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:50 PM

  Apparently not then.

• 183 Ashton // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:50 PM

  And by “tactically” I mean the 433 formation and not the style of play which was hoofing the ball as soon as we got it.

• 184 ppb // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:51 PM

  @Ashton tbf we are basically arguing opinions and are unlikely to change each others. i really do rate our players highly. just not as highly as you. its good to see passion on here supporting our guys.

• 185 steveno7 // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:51 PM

  That was meant to say shay given was t worst kicking gk .
  Sorry folks im using my mobile .

• 186 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:53 PM

  Steve you’re right. I love krul, have done since Az alkmar but just stating his kicks are terrible. He will get better, it’s just frustrating when some posters don’t concede anything.

• 187 ppb // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:54 PM

  @steven i believe within 2 years krul will be world class. and i rate him very highly.

• 188 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:54 PM

  And before some smart ass says ‘tim didn’t play for az, you don’t know anything about football’ I mean his incredible debut in Europe those years ago when he pulled off save after save and announced himself to the Newcastle fans!

• 189 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:55 PM

  Ashton do you still think we should go 433 and drop BA ?

• 190 ppb // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:56 PM

  @tequila the situation has changed. ba is on fire now

• 191 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:56 PM

  Tequila
  Did he?
  Fair play then apologies to ashton i thought he was slating pards for not playing it so ashton im sorry!
  But i mow remember what we were arguing about! Do you still think ba should be dropped?

• 192 Ashton // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:57 PM

  tequilamag

  I’ve never doubted Ba’s ability. Form maybe but not ability. My problem with him is his attitude and selfishness. Pardew is trying his best to make him happy and he is doing everything he can because of his contract. Everything is shaped to make Ba play his best so I’m not surprised that he is but that is costing our team.

• 193 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:57 PM

  Ppb like you i don’t think we have a world class player. But we’ve got about 5 that are on the verge. They need to start playing consistently tho to prove their ability.

• 194 Nufc-83 // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:57 PM

  Fatman i thought Krul made his debut against Palermo who he was outstanding against winning Mom just what i had in my head anyway

• 195 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:58 PM

  Ppb
  In all fairness ba has been the in firm striker all season

• 196 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:58 PM

  lol Keep digging Ashton, your almost there.

• 197 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:59 PM

  83 yea ur right. It wasnt az

  Smart ass

• 198 F. U. Ashley // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:59 PM

  To be fair I think injuries and poor fitness levels of key players – Cabaye for one on the fitness front – have played a major part in our quite disappointing start to the season (entertainment wise, as we haven’t even started to play decent football yet) I’m sure Anita was bought to play in a 3 man central midfield with Tiote and Cabaye and it was this assurance that he would play predominantly as a defensive midfielder that convinced him to sign for us. Once we have all 3 fit at the same time then we may see a change of formation and hopefully a change to the way we approach games with more attacking flair – after all, our attacking play is our main strength.

• 199 ppb // Sep 30, 2012 at 5:59 PM

  @fatman pretty much my exact feeling there. totally agree they’re nearly there

• 200 JDdubai // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:00 PM

  What ru all going on about Krul’s kicking for??? Who cares, if that is the worst thing going on then we are flying, but it’s 0.00001% of anything important.

  Formation wise, either formation will work, though if we were intent on going 4-4-2 this season we should have bitten the bullet and exchanged Ba or whoever for Carroll as in a 4-4-2 hoofball AC is probably the best target man there is right now, horses for courses. Though I cant see why we bought a world class playmaker in Cabaye to waste him in a 4-4-2 where he plays too much of the game deep and doesnt have the freedom to run a game, will see what happens when he is fit again i guess.

  We are also desperate for an attacking CM who can get in the box and score, a Rob Lee type. Leaves too much pressure on the front 3 to score when 3 of our front 6 arent going to trouble anyone going forward.

• 201 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:00 PM

  Bloody hell Ashton.

  You can’t be judge and jury- you can’t make a case against someone’s opinion and then state as a fact that you have ‘proved them wrong’ – of course YOU believe you proved them wrong!

  Maybe take a slice of humility flapjack and perspective pie.

• 202 Nufc-83 // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:02 PM

  I think if HBA stays fit and continues to play as he is this season we will see some mamouth bids come the summer.

• 203 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:02 PM

  @JDDubai – Considering the amount of Hoofy Hoofball we’ve been playing lately, I reckon it’s a much higher percentage than that….

  (sorry for double post)

• 204 Ashton // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:03 PM

  I would only drop Ba if he isn’t happy and doesn’t want to play. 433 is our best formation and if he is willing to play out wide then absolutely he should start. But if he is miserable then what’s the point?

• 205 ppb // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:03 PM

  @tads yeah he has looked the better of the two even before scoring but maybe Ashton felt (as i did a little) that with cisse getting all the service he’d score more than ba. (i now admit that was a silly thought. they’re pretty equal in scoring record)

• 206 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:05 PM

  Jd – aren’t you one of those criticising our hoofball coz then we lose the ball and have to face another onslaught. Well, krul’s kicks do the same. I teach junior football and the keeper in our starting 11 is trying to perfect the kicking because doing it badly and losing possession is really a weakness.

  So yes it is important. It’s about as infuriating as a bad free kick or corner.

• 207 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:06 PM

  Ashton
  But if he is on top form which he is then why should he have play lw?

• 208 MagpiesFlyHigh // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:06 PM

  FMJ

  Definition of a world class player has to include consistency as well as ability and flair. I’d say Krul is the most consistent player we have. Even Colo has enough off days to put him a notch down. When Benny and Cabaye do the biz week in and week out then they’ll be truly world class.

  Ashton

  One of the ? over Pards is how he handles difficult players and situations. He seems to have sorted out a lot of our lads and got them playing above themselves at times but he ain’t going to win them all. Maybe Ba will be his failure here like Tevez was at WHU, but I reckon he’s learnt a lot on prima donna handling since then so we’ll just have to see if Ba is greedy or being wound up by his brother and agents

• 209 ppb // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:06 PM

  @nufc 83 it could happen yes im not sure about 30m+ still though

• 210 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:07 PM

  As for formations, every style has its pros and cons. I think we played some of our better football last year with 433. I just think we should give Pards the benefit of the doubt as to which formation he goes with on any given game. Surely he has earned that much,

• 211 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:07 PM

  JDdubai
  Tbf its an under rated part of the game instead of building an attack we turn over possesion and were on the back foot again

• 212 JDdubai // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:10 PM

  Its not down to the keeper though, like I said Krul’s kicking wouldnt matter if we had the correct players in a 4-4-2, if Shola was up front and we play longball then he would win a much greater share of ball than we do at present. The reason we dont win any ball is that Cisse and Ba are crap in the air, so even half decent long balls from the anyone is heavily stacked in the defending teams favour.

  Likewise if we had Krul kicking but AC up front, am sure AC would still win most of the balls.

  We are going to play badly because of our goalie’s kicking though, my point was that there are a lot more issues more important to address before we get to that.

• 213 Nufc-83 // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:10 PM

  MAgpieflyinghigh Colo off days errrrrrrrm when????

• 214 Ashton // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:11 PM

  toonarmydownsouth

  But it’s far more important for the team as a whole to do better than an individual player don’t you think?? Which one do you prefer? Ba doing great or Newcastle doing great? You can only pick one.

• 215 Gateshead-Mag // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:11 PM

  to whoever it may concern

  i wouldnt say kruls kicking is any worse than any other keeper we haves kicking, the problem they all have is kicking it long in the first place.

  krul, harper, elliot whoever it is should be looking to play to defenders/midfielders short before any long ball imo

  harper kicking it up field is no more productive than williamson kicking it up field(and no less frustrating!)

• 216 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:12 PM

  MFH
  Or is it the whole thing being blown out of proportion? He’s not the first player to be frustrated at bieng dropped for no reason, obviously he’s not going to play every game but to be dropped at the stary of the season when your in form and the only explanation you get is cisse scored a great header in a international the other night he’s gonna be angry and want to make a point personally i think the media have made it more of a story than it is

• 217 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:13 PM

  Ashton I cant see how its an either or situation as to whether BA is playing great or Newcastle playing great. But what do I know.

• 218 Gateshead-Mag // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:13 PM

  long balls only work when you have players cabable of winning them ie carrol/ameobi, but even then its not nice to watch

  i was pulling my hair out on wednesday when our only play was long ball to ameobi, even though it was working (sort of) it was horrible to watch and not a good advert for NUFC

• 219 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:13 PM

  Shola has his plus points but I certainly wouldn’t start with him until he shows himself capable for a full game.

  I think dead balls in general are a weakness for us and something that needs to be addressed. Krul’s kicks are Inc in that.

• 220 Nufc-83 // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:14 PM

  Gateshead mag agreed if we had shola starting we could see long ball be more effective however what is the keeper going to do when the players in front of him do not want possession. Simmo williamson stayls are all not comfortable on the ball and the last thing they want is for the gk to pass it to them. We need the right players for us to build from the back and only then will i blame the gks.

• 221 Ashton // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:14 PM

  FatmanJoe

  Why is it that Krul never wastes as many balls when he plays for Holland?. Don’t you think it has to do with the team’s tactics? When he has played for Holland he always passes the ball and he is brilliant at it but you don’t know that because you don’t see it with Newcastle because we play hoofballs and he is being used as our main play maker.

• 222 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:15 PM

  Ashton
  But when ba is doing well the team ppl are saying we’d be in trouble this season if it wasnt for benny the same could be said for ba, if his form dips fair play drop him or put him wide but all the time he’s scoring you cant justify dropping the lad

• 223 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:15 PM

  Colo’s had some bad days but every player does. He has weaknesses, surely you can see that?

• 224 Gateshead-Mag // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:16 PM

  nufc 83

  even those players can play a ball to 1 of 4 midfielders with little problem surely? and this is always going to be better posetion than kicking it to their defenders

• 225 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:18 PM

  Ashton

  I said it before and you ignored it – krul has only played for holland 3-4 times and you talk like he’s a seasoned pro and ‘always play brilliantly’

  He’s got a lot to learn but I would say that he has the potential to be the best keeper in the world in a couple of seasons.

• 226 Ashton // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:18 PM

  Gateshead-Mag

  Agree 100% I’ve been trying to explain that but no one seems to comprehend it. It’s good to have some people here who know how football works.

• 227 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:18 PM

  83
  Tbf dont think tayls is that bad with the ball neithet ar colo or santoon so theres no need to hoof it

• 228 Nufc-83 // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:21 PM

  Colo’s weakness’s are his physical presance and pace but he has the best reading of the game i have seen since woodgate and so more than makes up for them. He is probably along with Krul our most consistent player and this again is one of his best attributes. I bet you can count on 1 hand the amount of times colo in the last two season has played poorly. He is an outstanding Cb and that again is why he was named in the prem team of the year.

• 229 Ashton // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:22 PM

  FatmanJoe

  So those four games where all coincidence and mean nothing and it had nothing to do with team tactics. I feel sorry for the people you coach.

• 230 Nufc-83 // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:23 PM

  I agree tayls is not as bad as simmo or williamson but i dont think pardew would be comfortable with Krul passing to taylor williamson or simmo in tight positions. Colo and santon yes but you need a back four who are all happy in possession to build from the back otherwise can become risky imo.

• 231 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:23 PM

  That’s alright I agree. I’m not going to start listing bad performances and slating our players coz I think we’ve got the best group since robson’s days. But you’ve highlighted his pace and it is a weakness. He can be turned easily and he’s not quick. But his reading and composure is excellent.

• 232 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:25 PM

  Ashton can we just clarify what system you want ? 433 presumably. And do you think we should have Ba up front or on the left or should we now drop Cisse. I am not having a pop here I am just interested in your preferred formation and line up.

• 233 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:25 PM

  Ashto
  You seem incapable of debating without being insulting. I dont feel sorry for you. I just feel sorry for the unfortunate people you come into contact with.

• 234 Ashton // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:28 PM

  FatmanJoe

  At least I don’t destroy young people’s dreams and aspirations by being incompetent and stupid.

• 235 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:29 PM

  Ashton

  We only have your word for that.

• 236 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:30 PM

  Fatman do you really do that? tut tut shame on you.

• 237 Nufc-83 // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:31 PM

  Would love to see Guti in the middle against united with Tiote (depending on cabs availability) and fergy on the wing with shola up top with Ba. Would be looking to rotate Ba and Cisse as they clearly cant play together.

• 238 MagpiesFlyHigh // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:31 PM

  NUFC83

  Are you saying he doesn’t make mistakes, have his limitations or occasional off games ?

• 239 BelfastMagpie // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:32 PM

  If we could pass the ball around like West Brom,that would be a good start.lol

  The football so far this season has been awful.

• 240 Ashton // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:32 PM

  tequilamag

  We should play 433 because it’s the best formation for our players. 442 is not working so well because we don’t have the players for it but that’s not the case with the 433. Ba should play out left in the 433 with Cisse as our main striker.

• 241 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:32 PM

  Lol tequila apparently so. I’m a successful teacher working for one of the best schools in the country yet angry Ashton says I ruin young people’s lives!

  Must be true eh?

• 242 Nufc-83 // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:34 PM

  I am saying that these are extremely rare and that is why he was considered to be one of the best Cbs in the premier league last season. Every player in the world makes mistakes i.e. misplaces a pass at some stage in the games so you couldn’t say any player in the worl doesn’t make mistakes.

• 243 Ashton // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:35 PM

  FatmanJoe

  Of course you are.

• 244 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:35 PM

  Thanks for clarifying that Ashton. I am sure BA will continue his hot goalscoring streak out wide.
  Fatman you have a lot to answer for.

• 245 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:36 PM

  Is that it? Your only retort?

  Ok.

• 246 MagpiesFlyHigh // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:38 PM

  TADS

  The footballing press and agents are playing it for all they’re worth, which ain’t much. Agree it’s a teacup Force 10

• 247 Ashton // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:39 PM

  FatmanJoe

  Stating “I’m a successful teacher working for one of the best schools in the country” on the internet to have leverage when debating is pretty… weak. And obviously bull crap. You don’t need that to prove me wrong but you had to use it. Some people will believe you so good for you

• 248 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:40 PM

  tequila

  Ba showed just how prolific he could be out wide didn’t he?

  Haha

• 249 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:41 PM

  Give em enough rope…

• 250 Nufc-83 // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:43 PM

  Although it pains me to say it as i like Cisse’s attitude so much more than Ba’s but on current form you cant drop Ba and one needs to be imo so Cisse should be out shola in and fergy in. Let the crosses come in and watch BA and shola attack the hell out of them.

• 251 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:43 PM

  It wasn’t leverage for debate. You’ve already shown yourself to be incapable of debate by the insults you throw at people. I seriously get more debate in a class of 7 year olds! They at least listen and comprehend what others say. I stated that because I don’t ruin young people’s lives which you stated earlier.

  Believe me or don’t. Means nothing to me.

• 252 Ashton // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:43 PM

  At least we were playing good football and wining games…

• 253 WWYCD // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:44 PM

  Whats this I see interesting opinions shared in a mature and reason manner….nope wrong blog

• 254 Nufc-83 // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:45 PM

  Gutted i have a broken hand so havnt got fifa yet or i would have left my username and destroyed anybody who wanted a game.

• 255 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:48 PM

  Ashton – Atleast he doesn’t proclaim himself the ‘winner’ in a debate about football. Or speak of his opinions as facts.

• 256 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:48 PM

  MFH
  Speaking of teacup storms it looks like ones brewing!

  83
  Agree in tight situations krul shoukd stick to just clearing but when its a dead ball goal kick i’d like to see us atleast try and build from the back!

  Ih and yeah colo rarely has an off day i’d say he’s are most consistent player, personally i hope when krul returns he’s the krul from last season and not the one from the start of this season he’s lost his head a couple of times this season, prob frustrated like us but could of cost us!

• 257 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:48 PM

  You are right of course Ashton and I’ve considered that. But i don’t see how you can justify taking our most prolific scorer out of the front line and putting him out wide left.

• 258 mattyNUFC // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:48 PM

  i don’t understand this animosity towards Catchy In Norway

  he posts about as often as I do which is a few times a week. why are all the eternal optimists so keen to bury him in a ditch and stick a monument on top?

  He’s frustrated, as am I. We are playing crap football and have been for the better part of pardew’s reign.

  Now, i don’t spout my opinion as loaded and vociferously as catchy does, but trying to run him out of this blog is ludicrous. He is usually not so polarizing until all you start ganging up on him, you throw a line, he’s hooked and then he becomes more resounding. it’s not fair. it’s his opinion for godsakes.

  fatmanjoe, davyb, stupidcunt, all you guys need to realize there is an opinion besides your that, believe it or not (if you read real, actual newcastle based reporting) is indeed the majority. now, that point may be disputed, but catchy’s is not when he says:

  he set’s us up defensively, tells his players to hoof it long, and either says we were magnificent or we were poor.

  say what you will, form an opinion, but the bottom line is Pards has a plethora of midfield talent. that is undeniable. he has also failed to find a winning formula. say what you will about players and where they fit, fine, whatever, but it’s pard’s job to find that formula and he’s yet to have done it, simple as

• 259 Ashton // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:49 PM

  FatmanJoe

  haha

  “I stated that because I don’t ruin young people’s lives which you stated earlier.”

  Of course you don’t believe you do because you are stupid. Your footballing knowledge is appalling and you are not fit enough to coach young people.

• 260 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:49 PM

  WWYCD
  f**k off! better?

• 261 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:51 PM

  Ashton – seriously, perspective and humility. Both seriously needed for you.

• 262 mattyNUFC // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:51 PM

  i don’t understand this animosity towards Catchy In Norway

  he posts about as often as I do which is a few times a week. why are all the eternal optimists so keen to bury him in a ditch and stick a monument on top?

  He’s frustrated, as am I. We are playing s*** football and have been for the better part of pardew’s reign.

  Now, i don’t spout my opinion as loaded and vociferously as catchy does, but trying to run him out of this blog is ludicrous. He is usually not so polarizing until all you start ganging up on him, you throw a line, he’s hooked and then he becomes more resounding. it’s not fair. it’s his opinion for godsakes.

  fatmanjoe, davyb, cupid stunt, all you guys need to realize there is an opinion besides your that, believe it or not (if you read real, actual newcastle based reporting) is indeed the majority. now, that point may be disputed, but catchy’s is not when he says:

  he set’s us up defensively, tells his players to hoof it long, and either says we were magnificent or we were poor.

  say what you will, form an opinion, but the bottom line is Pards has a plethora of midfield talent. that is undeniable. he has also failed to find a winning formula. say what you will about players and where they fit, fine, whatever, but it’s pard’s job to find that formula and he’s yet to have done it, simple as

• 263 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:51 PM

  Wow.

  You really know me. This is scary. It’s like a blog version of ‘this is your life’

  Thanks for the wake up call. I will change my life from now on.

• 264 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:51 PM

  Sorry Ashton only teasing, your right we played some amazing football last year with that formation. Just seems a bit of a risk putting our most inform striker on the wing to accomadate Cisse who is clearly lacking confidence at the moment.
  Hang on is that not what you were accusing gutless Pardew of doing by continuing to play BA in a 442. God this football lark is so confusing.

• 265 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:52 PM

  83
  I feel your pain mate really do, im stuck round the mother in laws when all i want to do is go home and play some fifa!

• 266 WWYCD // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:52 PM

  toonarmydownsouth
  Haha far better I feel right at home now

  Whats with all this, for lack of a better word, sh*t thats being spouted on here today? I know I was a miserable tw@t recently but think I have been way over shadowed today

• 267 MagpiesFlyHigh // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:53 PM

  Ashton

  Slaggin FMJ without knowing where or how well he teaches is a bit OTT to say the least. And I thought you mostly posted sense til then.

  I also think Krul’s distribution has improved this season with a lot more balls played out of defence than hoofed. Difficult to know what the team instructions are though when they’re under pressure. Our side needs the ball played through midfield not over it IMHO

• 268 Ashton // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:54 PM

  FatmanJoe

  You are welcome.

• 269 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:54 PM

  Sorry Matty when have I ever tried to run catchy off the blog?

  Just disagreed with his pardew bashing. Which I’m allowed to do.

  Do you not think ashton’s attacks on me at this moment are worse? Do they not kind of undermine the point you’re trying to make about people disagreeing with each other? Every time I’ve tried to state an opinion Ashton has attacked me. Undermines your post non?

• 270 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:55 PM

  YO
  dunno its like the blogs gaving its time of the month!

• 271 mattyNUFC // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:57 PM

  fatman

  haven’t read down that far. i’m just tired of seeing catchy inundated with vitriol because he’s frustrated with how the team’s playing.

• 272 mattyNUFC // Sep 30, 2012 at 6:58 PM

  I’m frustrated with how the team’s playing, and i don’t really know how anyone could be content.

  the only highlight is that we’ve only lost once in the league. an optimist might hope for a winning streak.

  i hope for one too, i just don’t see where or who it’s going to come from

• 273 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:00 PM

  Catchy takes his hatred of pardew to the extreme. It’s difficult to reason or debate with someone so driven that way. If I’ve disagreed with him and upset you I’m sorry.

  Geez I’m glad I logged on today.

• 274 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:00 PM

  Matty

  Pardew , clueless , wimp, liar , and 8 more years of this:( it’s gona be a long 8 years, I think ppl are seeing what a few if us seen last year

  Thats catchys first post on this topic, no ones baited him or anything like that, theres no mention of footy or tactics or performances
  Catchy is ok when he actually debates or airs his opinion but this is just tripe

• 275 hoppernufc // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:00 PM

  Can’t help but think what the hell do these players do on training, I mean we have no tactical gameplan other than hoof the ball long we totally bypass the midfield I don’t understand it, we play the worst football in the league, we’ve got the players to get it down and play so and we done so well least season we we got it on the deck so what’s happened? I mean we don’t come to life until we’re 2 goals down then it’s too late, I know it’s early days but we need to start playing to our strengths and soon

• 276 Ashton // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:00 PM

  MagpiesFlyHigh

  His arguments are weak and flawed. You can’t be a GK coach with that sort of way of thinking and analyzing. It’s all about Krul’s kicking and I’ve explained the reasoning as to why it seems that his quality of kicking is lacking. Instead of offering a rational rebuttal he tells me “but I’m a successful coach” and implies that I’m wrong without proving or discussing anything.

• 277 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:03 PM

  Fatman , you should not have logged on your time would have been better spent ruining the lives of young people.

• 278 WWYCD // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:03 PM

  toonarmydownsouth
  Fun times eh reckon the mood will get worse before it gets better as well

• 279 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:03 PM

  1. Didn’t say I’m a goalkeeper coach
  2. Didn’t say I’m a successful coach

  Do you have difficulty reading Ashton? I know plenty of teachers who can help with that.

• 280 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:04 PM

  Ashton – I agree it is the way in which Krul is asked to kick which magnifies the problem, however, having been asked to kick that way you can hardly argue he’s good at it.

• 281 mattyNUFC // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:05 PM

  TADS

  i realize that but over the past few days he’s posted with more frequency than usual and he’s been hung out to dry

  he’s fed up. let’s break down exactly what he said though, accusation by accusation

  liar – is there any dispute in that?

  clueless – some people think so. catchy thinks so. sometimes i do too.

  wimp – perhaps catchy’s POV is that he didn’t show enough muscle in demanding two defenders who we all knew and know were/are essential to us progressing. now we are backtracking. remember on transfer deadline day? we were all sure pards was as aggravated as us and that some bust-up might come. the fact that it didn’t some might call pards being professional. some might call it pards being a ‘puppet’ or a yes-man. i really think there is hardly any denying the lattermost accusation (yes-man)

  tads, i agree with half of what you say and am flabergasted by the other half, but we debate, which is how catchy tries to interact with the blog too, and then this clan that has trolled around this blog over the past year or two proverbially rapes him and winds him up

• 282 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:06 PM

  Ashton
  Guess we’ll have to agree to disagree about Ba’s role but think we can prob (hopefully!) agree that its great to see the big man banging them in again!

  Shall we change the debate?
  When simmo comes back does he go straight in a rb and anita back to midfield or does anita continue at rb?

• 283 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:07 PM

  Oh and of course you’re leaving out the reason why I mentioned I’m successful – like tequila pointed out, your attack that I’m ruining the lives of young people. Was just merely stating that I dont

  Well I don’t think I do. They seem pleased enough when they leave the school.

• 284 Nufc-83 // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:08 PM

  Never in a million years did i think i would say this but until all of our players are fit and we can find a system that gets the ball down and a midfield that can support the attack we need to start Shola.

• 285 MagpiesFlyHigh // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:08 PM

  Matty

  Catchy poured out pure vitriol about Pards.
  He set himself up for the opposing views

• 286 MagpiesFlyHigh // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:09 PM

  FMJ

  My kids are pleased enough too when they leave school , but they’re 18 by then

• 287 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:09 PM

  Simmo back in at RB for me. Although he has ruined the lives of many posters on here. On balance I think its worth it.

• 288 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:12 PM

  Matty
  Like i said when he debates hes cool actually had a good one with him the other day but these kinda posts do provoke a reaction maybe others shouldnt wind him up but maybe he should try and debate a bit more than just blow up either way im sure he’s a big lad and can hold his own there only words on a screen tbf

• 289 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:13 PM

  Mfh

  Yea that sounded wrong didn’t it! Haha.

  I think the frustration of our poor performances has made everyone a little angry. But we’ve just got to hope we can turn it around with the quality we have.

• 290 Nufc-83 // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:14 PM

  Although i really dont rate simmo i would say he should go back in at rb as for me anita is just to small to play in the back four and would be targeted by most teams with high balls in to the back post.

• 291 josh // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:15 PM

  Reading between the lines from the previous thread it seems Jeff might be retarted lol. That got me.

• 292 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:15 PM

  Matty

  I’d hate to think I’d upset anybody so in the interest of being the bigger man – Ashton, let’s just make up ay?

  No more petty squabbling online. Seems a bit childish.

• 293 mattyNUFC // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:16 PM

  honestly, TADS, and MFH

  i just don’t want to see him off this blog. i’m pretty sure he’s been here as long as I have (since its inception) and i like the differing viewpoints. i like the eternal optimists who debate instead of divide. i miss Beattie and others who have decided to leave (and mind, for 90% of beattie’s life on this blog he was one i’d consider an eternal optimist too before this last year)

  i just don’t know how long i could stand being on this blog if it transmogrified from open debate to a bunch of posters with like-minded opinions, which seems to be the aspirations of many on here currently

• 294 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:18 PM

  Tequila & 83
  Yeah gotta agree with that simmo back in just purely to bring some stability to the back 4 also want to see a CM of cabs anita and tiote, have tiote there doing his thing and anita alongside to play the ball out with cabs in a more advanced role

• 295 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:18 PM

  Out of all the players we have had outI think its Colo and Simmo that have been the biggest misses. We all want to see us playing the ball on the floor more and as many have pointed out we have been too direct. With those two back I reckon we shall see a more fluid game.

• 296 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:18 PM

  Hang on I wanna know who this clan that has trolled the blog for the last two years is!

• 297 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:19 PM

  Transmogrified. Best word used on the blog today.

• 298 WWYCD // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:21 PM

  For what its worth I would stick Simmo straight back in at RB and let Anita go back to where he is more comfortable playing wouldnt have a clue who to drop though

  Perch can go back on the bench where he belongs

• 299 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:21 PM

  Matty
  Well kinda goes without saying wheres the point of the blog if everyone agrees with each other!
  So yeah if ppl want to debate thats fine but if they just wanna jump in with name calling etc then they must surely know there will be a backlash

• 300 Nufc-83 // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:22 PM

  Lol i dont think simmo coming back will influence us to play the ball on the floor but colo i agree with

• 301 mattyNUFC // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:22 PM

  Tsunki

  they’re out there. beware!

• 302 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:23 PM

  Its not so much bringing simmo back as restoring the core of the team that has worked together for some time. Too many enforced and wholesale changes have brought us no benefit at all.

• 303 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:26 PM

  Well NUFC-83 to nick Tsunkis quote the other night, “I make you laugh, I make you think”

• 304 mattyNUFC // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:26 PM

  alright, i’m out. happy blogging

• 305 Ashton // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:26 PM

  gonufc (up and Hatem)

  I’m not arguing that he is the best kicker in the world. He is just not as terrible as the pseudo expert FatmanJoe thinks.

• 306 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:27 PM

  Yep I would have lot the competition to insert ‘transmogrified’ into a post seamlessly.

  If I said I transmogrified into bob would that be an accurate use of the word?

• 307 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:27 PM

  *lost er sorry it got transmogrified.

• 308 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:28 PM

  Wow
  Didnt think simmo would get any votes after he cost us the CL last season!!

• 309 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:31 PM

  Well done on picking up on fatmans offer “to lets just make up” Ashton.

• 310 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:32 PM

  tads- ketsy surely cant resist this opportunity – where are you ketsy?

  

• 311 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:33 PM

  tads he may have cost us CL place, but I am sure nobody on the blog holds any grudges for too long.

• 312 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:34 PM

  Tsunki , you have to say his name 3 times

• 313 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:35 PM

  Tsunki
  Live a bit if blog fishing

• 314 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:36 PM

  Ashton
  Simmo or anita? Who would your 3 cm’s be in the 433!

• 315 Jail for Ashley // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:39 PM

  I remember when Pards first joined the club he gave an interview and he stated that he wont get things right all the time,nobody can.The other night people were calling for Bigi to be played instead of Gosling well he tried it yesterday and it didn’t work so hopefully a good manager learns from that and next when Cabaye is out maybe Jonas will play in the middle,I can’t understand why Anita didn’t play at RB,but then again I dont know any of the strengths or weaknesses of the opposing wingers or if maybe Anita is still knackered from getting up three times a night with a new bairn.I think Pards biggest problem is how to, either get Ba and Cisse playing together OR being to successfully upset one of them while still keeping them happy(if you know what I mean)

• 316 Nufc-83 // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:42 PM

  3 cms would have to be against strong opposition tiote guti and cabs against weaker opposition i would go with anita for guti

• 317 Jail for Ashley // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:42 PM

  Transmorgify
  Jocular to change or transform into a different shape, esp a grotesque or bizarre one.

• 318 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:44 PM

  JFA
  Well said i still think the whole squad from coaches to the players are still learning and doing it together as a group theres going to be ups and downs but its all part of establishing a stable club

• 319 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:45 PM

  I would go with Tiote Anita and Cabs and have Jonas as RB, altho that does contradict me saying Simmo at RB earlier.

• 320 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:47 PM

  Tequila
  We’ll just assume you mean while simmos injured!

• 321 bills-son // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:49 PM

  Jail @ 314, agree with you. Now there’s a first.

• 322 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:49 PM

  No I have always wanted Jonas as a FB its just that I think clueless Pardew will never play him there. He should be sacked. 8 years of misery, mark my words.

• 323 Jail for Ashley // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:55 PM

  Evening bills,
  Yes ,I do believe it is a first.

• 324 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Sep 30, 2012 at 7:59 PM

  @tequilamag – well…. I’ll go fetch my noose then…

• 325 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 8:00 PM

  Ketseljuice Ketseljuice KETSELJUICE!!!

  Uh-oh here he comes

• 326 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 8:02 PM

  gonufc. only joking matey.

• 327 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Sep 30, 2012 at 8:02 PM

  Find it hard to follow on here sometimes when I’ve been away for a couple hours. Tequila are you joking or do you genuinely think pards should be sacked. I CBA to read back all the comments right now so apologies in advance if you are joking lol.

• 328 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 8:04 PM

  I miss Kets when he is there. If I am ever stuck on what to think I look at his posts and go for the opposite.

• 329 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Sep 30, 2012 at 8:04 PM

  Scratch that.

  Tsunki, I heard you had to say his name 5 times in front of a mirror an he would appear behind you
  CandyKets candyKets candyKets candyKets … No I’m too scared

• 330 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 8:06 PM

  Conaldo dont read through the garbage posted on here today for gods sake . It was a joke

• 331 RonVanDam // Sep 30, 2012 at 8:08 PM

  Heres something to distract you from the jibba jebba

  http://www.nufcfans.co.uk/yohan-cabaye-newcastle-united-france-canal-plus-alan-pardew-video/?

• 332 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Sep 30, 2012 at 8:11 PM

  Tequila – good advice mate cheers.

  CandyKets.

  Wa..wait… What was that… What have you got there… What’s on the end of that hook… Oh wait it’s a team sheet… With abeid in every position… Aighhhhhh.

• 333 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 8:11 PM

  RVD I am surprised there are no pics of Jimmy Magpie round at Cabayes gaff

• 334 Gateshead-Mag // Sep 30, 2012 at 8:14 PM

  anyone watched the canal video of cabaye??

  obviously recent as it features the everton game

  would be interesting to find out what was being said, wheres niafron when you need him??

• 335 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 8:19 PM

  Conaldo
  Legend has it he lost his hand reaching in to a pannini printing machine trying to grab a limited edition shiny abied sticker!

• 336 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 30, 2012 at 8:23 PM

  I have become swayed by the idea of 433 with Ba predominantly wider and interchanging with Cisse, mainly because Guti does seem to be becoming less effective out wide, although he may be playing to instruction..

  Guti’s workrate and experience is invaluable to the team however and I would have both him and Anita in the team and see how best the team lines up with each one at right back and the other in midfield to see which set up works best.

  Guys like Fergie, Tavs, can be introduced slowly to see how they develop. It is a massive step up from the reserves to regular premier league football. I’m far from convinced either is ready to slot in, same should be said for Bigi, although he has been doing all that could be expected of him and more up to now.

• 337 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Sep 30, 2012 at 8:23 PM

  Tads –

• 338 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 8:26 PM

  I’m not doing a Beattie and I’m not being bullied from the blog but the fun of it has definitely gone and when you can’t post without being insulted it kind of becomes pointless. Have enjoyed being on here over the years& enjoyed the debates with people from both sides who hav fought their cause fairly. Good luck to tarie, burni, Ibiza, tequila. Conaldo, Tads, Tds, tsunki, mfh and co. I don’t have the energy for it anymore. HTL.

• 339 Gateshead-Mag // Sep 30, 2012 at 8:30 PM

  repost

  anyone watched the canal video of cabaye??

  obviously recent as it features the everton game

  would be interesting to find out what was being said, wheres niafron when you need him?

  anybody??….

• 340 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 8:30 PM

  FMJ
  Always a shame to have someone feel they cant post anymore, hopefully you’ll be back on soon as its clear you are a passionate fan!
  If not all the best mate take and for god sakes stop ruining kids lives!!!!
  Seriously though take care and hopefully you’ll be back
  HWTL

• 341 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 8:31 PM

  FMJ dont leave mate, the more time you spend on here the less time you have to ruin kids lives. Ashton is a joke dont give him the satisfaction.

• 342 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 8:31 PM

  FMJ dont do it lad I tried it once but the darkness cannot win, we of the clan must oops er let the cat out of the bag there…

• 343 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 8:32 PM

  Hyphen
  Have you got a link to the video mate?

  And does anyone have some kinda bat symbol for niafron?

• 344 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 8:33 PM

  Tsunki
  Ffs stop telling ppl about the clan you’ll be telling ppl about the secret handshake next….opps

• 345 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 8:34 PM

  Unless he’s making those kids wear those awful mackem shirts I can’t see how he can properly ruin kids lives.

• 346 Gateshead-Mag // Sep 30, 2012 at 8:37 PM

  tads

  http://www.canalplus.fr/c-sport/pid2708-c-interieur-sport.html?vid=734464

  there you go pal, iv watched it trying to make stuff out but i dont speak french, only bit i can make out is pardews interview (cockney is still foreign )

  fmj

  dont take people so seriously man, so fuck if people call you shit it just means they cant back up their argument without resorting to name calling

  letting them fly over your head will wind them up far more than biting back, anyway theres plenty posters still on here with a sensible head.

  dont let go jack…..dont let go………

• 347 Gateshead-Mag // Sep 30, 2012 at 8:44 PM

  tads

  http://www.canalplus.fr/c-sport/pid2708-c-interieur-sport.html?vid=734464

  there u go mate, only bit i understood was pardews interview (cockney is foreign )

  FMJ

  dont let them win man, anyone that resorts to name calling obviously cant back up their argument

  anyway letting it fly over your head will annoy them whereas biting gives them satisfaction

  dont let go joe…..dont let go….

• 348 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Sep 30, 2012 at 8:48 PM

  Ruining kids lives? Someone want to fill me in, I CBA to read the comments. Also, fmj, sorry to hear that. Hope to see u back soon. There is a solution though, just come onhere when it’s past the annoying posters bedtimes.

• 349 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Sep 30, 2012 at 8:52 PM

  Gateshead. From what I can gather from my reeeeaaaalllly bad French, (and the pretty pictures) was that the first 5-10 mins or so was his young footballing life, saying he played with Debuchy from like u12 and when he got in the French youth setup. Then it didn’t seem to say much other than talking about France games, his training and i didn’t understand anything that was sainwhen they were playing poker.
  I know that’s not really much help lol.
  It was an entertaining video though, despite not understanding it. Cabaye has a nice house

• 350 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 8:52 PM

  Ashton made that claim as part of some ridiculous non argument about Kruls kicking ability. I know you could not make it up. FMJ coaches kids at football.

• 351 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Sep 30, 2012 at 8:53 PM

  That’s it I’m reading the comments. This sounds interesting…

• 352 Gateshead-Mag // Sep 30, 2012 at 8:54 PM

  conaldo

  so reading between the lines you are cabaye??

• 353 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Sep 30, 2012 at 8:54 PM

  Also, note how the blog is civil and enjoyable at the moment. As I said, bedtimes…

• 354 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 8:55 PM

  Gateshead
  Thanks mate just gotta find 2 translaters one for the french one for the rhyming slang!

  Conaldo
  He’s a teacher and footy coach because him and ashton were disagreeing ashton felt sorry for the kids as his lack of football knowledge was clearly ruining the kids lives….. Apparantly
  And in all fairness FMJ did offer a truce

• 355 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 30, 2012 at 8:57 PM

  Ofcourse, you could take the view that Fatman Joe has just taken a monumental step forward in his own quality of life by releasing himself from the many and various tyrannies of Toon blog addiction.

  More power to ya Fatman, go forth and reclaim your life!!!!

• 356 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 8:57 PM

  Its not like FMJ is a maths teacher on a long weekend in France.

• 357 Gateshead-Mag // Sep 30, 2012 at 8:58 PM

  jawball

  hahahaha you might be onto something there like

• 358 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:00 PM

  Gateshead – shhh. Nobody is supposed to know.
  Ma maison est très agréable d’être juste

• 359 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:01 PM

  It does you good having a rest from the blog. Clears the mind. I may gan for another sabbatical soon. Probably after we get rogered by the mancs ha ha

• 360 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:04 PM

  Tsunki
  You cant stay away you love it you blog slag!

• 361 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:05 PM

  Bring back FMJ.

  Ashton should ask him back on to prove once and for all that he’s not a kn*b.

  Whats my point, again?

• 362 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:06 PM

  tads dammit you know me so well

• 363 F. U. Ashley // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:06 PM

  Just watched the Cabaye video and it’s nice to see the French players all friendly towards each other like. If they’re happy then that can only benefit the club. Would have been nice to know what was being said so hope they hurry up with the translation.
  FMJ just let all the crap go over your head man, some people just can’t help themselves and have to be abusive – I know this ‘cos it happened to me in an earlier thread after i’d posted an honest opinion while being so frustrated by the way we’re playing at the minute. Basically I was called an Ar*ehole and told to kcuf off which I thought was rather over the top. The thing is when that happens you get dragged in and feel that you need to respond in kind which I did but really only wanted to show my frustration with the game then stop posting so I know exactly how you feel but do what I do and don’t let the fu*kers drag you down. Stick in there matey. By the way, my user name is age old and feelings have changed slightly since I first registered but don’t see the point of changing it.

• 364 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:10 PM

  Tsunki

• 365 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:11 PM

  F.U. – may I call you F.U.? – well F.U. that was well put and if we can have a Jail for Ashley then why not F.U?

• 366 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:13 PM

  Last time I was at St James’ was about 7 years ago when we entertained Man U. Treated me old Dad to the match at a personal expense of well over a hundred quid and my reward was seeing us leathered 4 shit. In my minds eye I can still see Rooney ferociously bullying his way through our defense at will and knocking players over like 9 pins.

  Message to medical staff – work round the clock to get our best players fit, I beg of you!

• 367 tooninspain // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:14 PM

  F.U ….how’s the window cleaning going?

• 368 F. U. Ashley // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:15 PM

  Tsunki, would you like to be F. U. 2?
  Only joking of course.

• 369 ppb // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:16 PM

  its way past my bedtime and i shouldn’t be on here but id like to point out i simply had a debate

• 370 F. U. Ashley // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:18 PM

  Window cleaning? what the F. U. talking about?

• 371 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:18 PM

  Ppb the bedtime comment was mainly about the likes of Ashton and catchy in Norway.
  I’ve not read the rest of the comments yet so judgement is reserved on you

• 372 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:19 PM

  Ppb
  With who? guilty conscience?
  Only kidding dont think anyone was referring to you!

• 373 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:19 PM

  F.U. 2 that has a ring to it all right cheers. I am seriously considering a monicker change now. You are giving me an idea that will rock this town ha ha. Nobody will be able to trust anyone else.

• 374 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:20 PM

  F.U @368
  LOL

• 375 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:22 PM

  Well i gotta go its been eventful and informative as usual. I bid you all good day I am getting an early night in to attempt to shake this rotten cold so I can earn money.

  Toodles.

  Bring Back FMJ / Beattie

• 376 F. U. Ashley // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:23 PM

  Tsunki, don’t try that one again – do you remember the Mackem that posed as a toon fan for ages on the Chronicle blog? can’t remember his name but I know I could never pretend to be a Mackem lol.

• 377 tooninspain // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:24 PM

  F.U…..how’s the window cleaning going?

• 378 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:24 PM

  FUA – How could you suggest – I have standards, you know! They’re pretty low but they are there.

• 379 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:24 PM

  Tsunki
  Bring back teenage mutant ninja turtles!
  After a couple of weeks paternity leave and mainly being bossed by my 4 yr old i can safely say kids tv sucks now!
  Sorry but random like!

• 380 ppb // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:25 PM

  @conaldo ignore me i know nothing about football

• 381 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:29 PM

  Tads – random, but they are making a new teenage mutant ninja turtles. I see it advertised all the time on Comedy Central. It will be on one of the kids channels.

• 382 ppb // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:34 PM

  you know in America it was teenage mutant hero turtles because ninja was deemed to imply violence too much for kids

• 383 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:34 PM

  Conaldo
  Like old school style or like wierd japanese cartoon style?

• 384 Jail for Ashley // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:34 PM

  Im taking our lass to the Man U game,I’ve taken her about six times now to SJP and once to Accrington Stanley for our anniversary and she’s yet to see us lose so hopefully that run will continue on Sunday.

• 385 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:34 PM

  Tads @269 “it like the blogs having its time of the month”

• 386 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:35 PM

  Ppb
  Nice fact for the evening!

• 387 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:37 PM

  JFA
  Accrington stanley you smoothie

• 388 ppb // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:38 PM

  thanks tads im great at useless info. good at pub quizzes too funny enough

• 389 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:38 PM

  “Hero in a half shell, turtle power” On current form, could be Guti’s new catchcry. F@#k it, that’s all from me.

• 390 Jail for Ashley // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:38 PM

  tads,call me old fashioned or romantic,she wanted to go to Venice but it was a Wednesday night.

• 391 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:39 PM

  Transmogrified. What a fantastic word hahaha

• 392 F. U. Ashley // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:39 PM

  JFA @ 382
  Accrington Stanley for the Anniversary? lol, how could she ask for more? I’m showing this post to wor lass when ours comes around again – should earn me some brownie points.

• 393 tooninspain // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:44 PM

  …..tell her about your new window cleaning business.

• 394 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:45 PM

  Re new tnmt – I have no idea what I will be like. I haven’t watched every trailer and advert. Honest. I’m telling the truth. Nah seriously though, it’ll most likely be ultra childish and boring. And I will cry myself to sleep

• 395 peterrwrightt // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:51 PM

  this will probably interest nobody and this is completely off topic, but my exgirlfriend, who i still talk to, is pretty much shagging Adam Campbell. lol.

• 396 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:53 PM

  Peter – pretty much? Sounds interesting.

• 397 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:57 PM

  Peter
  Fair play to the girl!

  Conaldo
  Ive just added it to the planner and told my wife my lad really wants to see it!

  JFA
  I’d take accrington any day!!! Cant talk tbf took the missus to fulham away a couple of seasons back for her birthday monday night middle of december it was like minus 4 she wasnt impressed!

• 398 Nufc-83 // Sep 30, 2012 at 9:58 PM

  Peter im guessing she is either ugly as fck or a money grabbing skank as he is one ugly mofo.

• 399 Nufc-83 // Sep 30, 2012 at 10:01 PM

  That was a bit too harsh actually sorry lol.

• 400 beefman13 // Sep 30, 2012 at 10:01 PM

  Peter, they say campbell he shots he scores!

• 401 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Sep 30, 2012 at 10:03 PM

  Tads – added it to the planner. Not a bit childish? *reaches for remote, scroll to kids quickly dammit . Record. **sigh of relief
  

• 402 peterrwrightt // Sep 30, 2012 at 10:04 PM

  nufc-83
  lol! nah shes quite good looking, money grabbing i say.

  beefman
  he does!

• 403 ppb // Sep 30, 2012 at 10:10 PM

  this reminds me of a classic interview moment.
  interviewer: what would you be if you weren’t a footballer
  peter crouch: probably a virgin

• 404 toonarmydownsouth // Sep 30, 2012 at 10:15 PM

  Ppb
  LOL!

• 405 peterrwrightt // Sep 30, 2012 at 10:17 PM

  ppb
  class hahahaha

• 406 ppb // Sep 30, 2012 at 10:18 PM

  true story

• 407 beefman13 // Sep 30, 2012 at 10:18 PM

  ppb, the yanks are stone mad, they banned kinder eggs as dangerous , and as you know you can by guns and ammunition like fish n chips!

• 408 Ashton // Sep 30, 2012 at 10:18 PM

  Fatman

  Get a backbone it’s only the internet ffs! If it means anything then I’m sorry for upsetting you. At the end we are both Toon supporters and we want the best for our club so no need to get upset.

• 409 ppb // Sep 30, 2012 at 10:22 PM

  @beef they’re idiots.
  it scares me that romney wanted to know why they couldn’t open the window cos his wife felt sick on the plane and he’s a viable presidential candidate?

• 410 MagpiesFlyHigh // Sep 30, 2012 at 10:56 PM

  I’ve been posting less frequently too. Partly cos work demands are getting out of hand just now but also…. as FMJ says… sometime the fun goes out of being on here and basically it should be fun. A bit of banter can easily become a good slagging and even delicate and tactful souls like Beattie went over the line quite often when he got his dander up !!
  Anyway FMJ… the blog needs you

• 411 cupiddstunt // Sep 30, 2012 at 10:57 PM

  mattyNUFC @ # 261

  Basically it’s their constant destructive negativity as tads pointed out the opening gambit of “Pardew , clueless , wimp, liar” was posted to aggravate those of a lesser negative nature and curry favour from those of a more aggressive negative nature.

  It got the response the post asked for.

  All I did was reply to the early post by catchless in the same blunt crass manner that they posted in and said what I felt same as they did.

  If catchless is offended and as a result leaves the blog then maybe they should think a little about how they come over to readers, if someone is so emotional that they can’t post a civil post then maybe they should give the keyboards a miss that day.

  By the way matty I don’t think anyone wants a blog that only puts out one viewpoint but at the same time I for one do not like mindless verbal abuse of someone that is not here to defend themselves, much like I don’t l8ike constant destructive negativity, you have an opinion fine put it over like an opinion don’t open with a line of abuse posted like a statement of fact.

  If catchless is big enough to put out such posts then they have to be big enough to defend them and handle the repercussions of them.

• 412 F. U. Ashley // Oct 1, 2012 at 12:11 AM

  Ok Guys, unfortunately I now feel that I have to change my user name as I have attracted a saddo stalker who goes by the user name tooninspain and has used abusive and threatening behaviour towards me, I prefer to call him TURDINSPAIN – please use the latter when replying to him as he obviously likes to be abusive. I’ll ask Ed to remove my account and i’ll re-register at a later date. Can’t let these tossers get you down but I really don’t need that kind of aggravation in my life at the minute.

• 413 swemag // Oct 1, 2012 at 5:20 AM

  Give Ferguson at start.

• 414 jawballsaswallwell // Oct 1, 2012 at 6:50 AM

  VS Bordeaux

  Elliot

  Tavs Perch Willo Fergie

  Bigi

  Gos

  Oba Marv
  Vuckic
  Strolla

  VS Manure

  Harps

  Anita Tayls Colo Santon

  Tiote

  Cabs Guti

  HBA Cisse Ba

• 415 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Oct 1, 2012 at 7:18 AM

  I think cisse vs Bordeaux, shola ba vs Man U.
  Elliot
  Tav perch Willo fergie
  Amalfitano bigi gosling
  Obertan cisse marveaux

  Harper
  Anita Saylor colo santon
  Tiote Jonas
  Ben arfa cabaye
  Shola ba

  Actually that’s a bit narrow that one.. I’m not sure how they would best line up. Dare I say it in a 442?

• 416 jesperfuglsang // Oct 1, 2012 at 7:53 AM

  Morning lads!

  I didn’t see the game Saturday; I had to play myself, but did follow the outcome on my phone afterwards

  I cannot comment on the gaøe since I didn’t see it so hopefully some of you fill me in!

  I did however see the stats and strangely we did have 52% possesion but we only had 9 shots against Reading’s 16 and 3 on goal against their 7.

  It is going to be a problem for us if we continue to play two forwards if we don’t create more chances.

  How was the delivery saturday? We need crosses and the ability to cut inside if we play 4-4-2.

  Another thing I wonder about is the constellation of both Tiote and Bigi; on paper it sounds really wrong. Who is going to add something going forward. How was that?

  Anyways, we have to take the positive from the game with us to the next one and try to learn from the mistakes.

• 417 dannyodyssey // Oct 1, 2012 at 8:23 AM

  Harper reflex is getting slower these days. Age is catching up with him. Could have been saved if Tim Krul was the keeper.

• 418 hatem786 // Oct 1, 2012 at 10:08 AM

  news in every norwegian newspaper is that newcastle will buy jo inge berget in january for 1,8 £ and some people in molde fk have confirmed it that they been in contact with pl team…i think we should buy some better then him,he is 22 and he has done well with molde and they won tippeligaen last year and they are 1 now this year and they ole gunnar solskjaer fonmer manu striker as manager

• 419 tooninspain // Oct 2, 2012 at 12:17 AM

  F.U you are a drama queen aren’t you? You need to grow a pair laddie. Everyone seems vey bothered about you……not!.