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Pardew Hardly Ever Sees Mike Ashley – And Likes It That Way

10:42 am, Sunday, September 30th, 2012 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 65 Comments

Mike Ashley is a hands off owner and allows people like Derek Llambias, who is running the club as the Chief Executive, and Alan Pardew, who is manager of everything on the playing side, to go ahead and do their jobs as the y see fit.

Alan Pardew – gets on well with Mike Ashley – when he sees him

Not all owners are like Mike Ashley who struggled to understand how to run a football club when he bought Newcastle in the summer of 2007, but seems to have worked out a frugal but effective way to ruin a football club, over the last five years.

On the occasions that the two do speak, they seem to get on well, and there’s certainly a mutual respect between the two of them, with Alan growing into the job over the last couple of years as Newcastle manager.

One of the reasons the club seems to be run so well and effectively the days is that the major players all seem to get on well with each other and they have all bought into the long term way the club will be managed.

This is what Alan told the Sunday Sun today:

“We don’t see much of each other and maybe that’s why it works. Derek Llambias is very much between Mike and I, but there is mutual respect there.” “When I meet him I do respect his views because you are shaped by your history. Mike is shaped by his football history because he’s had some bad times here at Newcastle.”

“But I do push him to get the best possible players to the club.” “He’s not on the phone every other day. It’s nothing like that. I don’t have any contact with him about games and I have to say I really like that about him. He trusts me, he trusts my decision making process.”

“He asks me through Derek one or two questions every month – and they are actually good questions. It’s different from other chairmen I’ve had.”

Dare we say it but Mike Ashley seems to have mellowed a bit, and he seems to be confident that he has worked out a system that works for Newcastle, although there is not a lot of money available to bring in new players.

We will have to continue to rely on bringing through good youngsters at the club, and that Graham Carr and his staff can spot more Yohan Cabayes and Cheick Tiotes in the future.

But we must say things have gone very well since those dark days of the summer of 2009, when we seemed to have dug ourselves into a deep hole, and things seemed to be in a shocking mess.

It’s a wonder what three years can do, and now we are flying high – well highish at the moment. 😀

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65 responses so far ↓

  • 1 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 10:46 AM

    Does anyone know when we’re going to start having players back again? Man utd next week is going to be difficult with the team we’ve got, particularly how low our confidence is and united rarely lose two in a row!

    Could really do with krul and colo back, with tiote back to his normal self and cisse back to goal scoring form.

    But I digress – any injury updates for colo and krul?

  • 2 Marty-Toon // Sep 30, 2012 at 10:49 AM

    I was almost sick lookin at how we played yesterday.
    But as Ap has said we haven’t even started to play well this season.
    Well the last two games show that Jonas doesn’t cross the ball into the danger zone,Fergie gets on a few mins and does exactly that.
    I understand Fergie has been injured but he must be almost up to speed now.
    I feel Santon also has more to give going forward.
    Ben Arfa was rubbish yesterday,he didn’t seem interested.
    Our passing throughout the last 35 mins was shocking.
    Especially Tiote,Ben Arfa,Willo and Jonas.
    Tavernier doesn’t look ready for the PL,he was bossed by clearly a better player in McNuff.
    Ap must take some blame in the team not looking up for it and a poor tempo to ur play,surely this is what they work on in training.
    As for our defence with Willo there??and without Sayls and Colo,we looked all over the place several times.

  • 3 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 10:52 AM

    Willo is fine when he’s got a more able player alongside him. That’s common for centre backs as well. Some players just aren’t capable of carrying their centre back partner and he’s one of those. But alongside Taylor or colo he’s competent enough.

  • 4 Marty-Toon // Sep 30, 2012 at 10:53 AM

    @ED
    Nice typo.
    to have worked out a frugal but effective way to ruin a football club, over the last five years.
    Ruin a football club lol

  • 5 Marty-Toon // Sep 30, 2012 at 10:56 AM

    @fatmanjoe
    We all see that,if it wasn’t for perch with that last gasp tackle we woulda gone home with nout.
    Pogrebnyak left Willo for dust,he’s way too easy to turn against.
    He’s too slow,too clumsy on the ball and gives us little aerial threat considering his height

  • 6 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 10:56 AM

    Ha didn’t notice that. Nice slip of the finger there ed!

  • 7 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 10:58 AM

    He had a shocker yesterday but most of our players did.

    Like i said alongside a competent partner he’s far more steady.

  • 8 WWYCD // Sep 30, 2012 at 10:58 AM

    FatmanJoe
    U can’t defend Willo damnit we need someone to beat after a poor performance, Simmos out so he’s safe and Perch has cult status now people are trying to get on Jonas’s back but really that won’t last. We need Willo to bash or we will start turnig on each other and anarchy will reign

  • 9 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 11:00 AM

    Wwycd

    I apologise profusely. God dam willo and his terribleness. Angry face. Wish he would just get injured so we can put abeid in defence. Shakes fist. Grr.

    Is that better? 😉

  • 10 Marty-Toon // Sep 30, 2012 at 11:02 AM

    How is it that Ba’s clause can come up again in January?
    I thought it was only until the summer.
    Does this clause reappear every window or what?
    We should be wanting 15 mill at least for him or get him on a new contract that doesn’t have the stupid clause.
    Better to give him 10grand extra a week than lose 8/10 million on him

  • 11 NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Sep 30, 2012 at 11:05 AM

    @8:

    Some of the folk on here are not happy if they are not calling one or more of the team shite like!

    At the moment its Jonas taking the Flak! Last week it was Simpson, and a week before that it was Obertan!

    Jonas is one of our better players, his work-rate in enormous!

    Next week another player will take the Flak! and be criticised! and so on and so on!

  • 12 Marty-Toon // Sep 30, 2012 at 11:06 AM

    Perch as you say didn’t have a sterling game either.
    Surpried AP didn’t go with Anita at CM with Tiote,that surely woulda given us a little more forward momentum.
    That Tav got an opportunity over him at RB was a nice gesture by pards but it backfired

  • 13 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 30, 2012 at 11:06 AM

    Well I think we do need our best players available against the better teams if we harbor realistic aspirations of victories. I think that is quite clear.

  • 14 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 11:11 AM

    The fact that we are playing badly and still picking up points is something I guess. But we really need to wake up shake up in the first half or we’re going to get spanked soon. I seem to remember us having a similar stuttering start last season – yes we were unbeaten for longer but we weren’t playing well and getting loads of draws.

    I wonder if we’re the new everton or arsenal and don’t come alive properly til xmas time.

  • 15 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 11:12 AM

    There was no boss on the back line when Saylor went off, and allowing their players to consistently get to the byline and cross meant we were all at sea with no offside trap or noticeable cohesion. Harps might take some blame for not commanding the players in front of him, he should have been able to do that with his experience, he knew where all the dangers were.

    Pards gamble with TAV showed he still has much to learn at this level. Distribution was very poor in midfield, aimless, nobody seemed to know who was running where or why, resorting to cross-field hoofing played straight into their hands. HBA had very little service and nobody to link up with, he needs a skilful passer in order to set himself up or set someone else up when he drags players with him, but that didn’t happen and he virtually switched off. The Cisse/Ba ‘partnership’ will never work, because it isnt one, its a competition in which the player best placed muscles in and wins. end of last year Cisse was given freedom with Ba pegged left wing. Now the stronger player is winning the plaudits and the goals.

    I dont know what Al’s solution is, but clearly Cabs, Colo and Saylor are the teams engine. Tiote is an enforcer without direction when Cabs is off, likewise HBA needs a proper passing player to buddy up with, we need crossers of the ball who can get to the byline and pull their defence backwards. We also need patience to play the ball along the ground for long periods to make opponents chase shadows or get impatient and draw fouls.

    That said, playing so disjointedly and still getting a point away means we have something in the locker. If this is a bad day, I will gladly take it.

    Jut a footnote – I am embarrassed as a Mag to see the grumbling ‘told-you-so’ rantings of the naysayers who come out of the dark recesses to hitch themselves to the anti-nufc bandwagon. It advertises badly when you know rival fans come on here to gloat about our backbiting. Fine, have your complaints and be reasonable, but come back on and congratulate the team when we win or scrape a result, instead of waiting for the next failure to pounce.

  • 16 Marty-Toon // Sep 30, 2012 at 11:12 AM

    New expat
    To be honest if you look at the team performance over the last few games and see bth the tempo of our play and some of our passing and final ball then it isn’t strange that we expect better.
    Ben Arfa has been our best player alongside Bigi and BA this season.
    I agree Jonas has been top notch with his wrk rate and tackling etc,shame his final ball is non evident.
    Don’t get me started on the oval headed Frenchman that warmed te bench yesterday.
    We ave quality in the side,but we are short of a ball playing cb who’s also quick and Cabaye was badly missed as I think Ben Arfa needs him in the team for link up play

  • 17 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 11:16 AM

    Marty – great minds or fools? 😉

  • 18 bollance // Sep 30, 2012 at 11:18 AM

    My take on Ba.

    Our policy is to buy young players for low amounts and develop using the premier league as vital experience.

    Cabaye £5m -> £20m
    Cisse £9 -> £20m
    Krul £200k -> £15m
    Bigi £1m -> £8m

    Ba £2m (fees) -> £7m (and no more)

    Above are a list of players who have 1 or less years experience in the prem and Ba. Their transfer values have rocketed (i have estimated market price for players and not what we would sell at!!) Ba’s value has increased but the fact is we could not sell him in the summer for £7m because of reported high wage demands.

    The point is that Ba takes a space in the team and his value will not rise above the £7m whereas other players will increase lots in a short space of time, like Bigi.

    But, on the other hand Ba’s goals this season are valuable in themselves. He is now top scorer in the league.

    Such a unique situation and as a fan we will all want Ba to stay but from the clubs perspective it may be better to replace and have another player who will hopefully score goals and grow in value.

  • 19 dave 1961 // Sep 30, 2012 at 11:19 AM

    Yesterday proved what i have said from day one about Williamson, when he has no one to carry him he is shown for what he is, and lets face it we were against the bottom of the league, and well out played, and sadly Pardew’s not looking much better, its looking more & more that his top 5, was more down to luck than good management. but those that are likely to turn on him, we are not going to find anyone better, we went into the season with 99% of fans knowing what we needed, mainly 2 defenders and we failed, we buy 1 rookie kid from the bowels of Ossie football. then we were told by Pardew he was happy with the squad. who was correct?

  • 20 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 11:22 AM

    bollance – I am certain that Ba leaving would have little long term impact on the team. Cisse would start scoring again. IF he could force a £7m move on us and IF its true about the wage demands, then morale would be helped by his departure. Having said that I think all the stories are tosh so I am probably blabbing on about nowt.

  • 21 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 11:24 AM

    Bollance I take your point on BA. But if we were to sell him it would be extremely difficult to replace him for 7 mill. But I take all this newspaper stuff with a big pinch of salt. Ba is earning good money and given the possible knee issues there does not seem to be any big Q of clubs looking to take the risk on him.

  • 22 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 11:26 AM

    Dave yeah thats great but Willo’s quality is nothing new, sadly there isnt any alternative is there? And he’s played some good games. It’s evident that he is not a leader and is effective when he is marshalled properly.

    I am sure that Pardew now has enough post-its to stick on Mike’s desk regarding January targets.

  • 23 Marty-Toon // Sep 30, 2012 at 11:28 AM

    Tsunki
    Great minds of course :-)
    Fools,well we all now we are but ya gotta be a fool of some sort to be a toon fan.Thats what makes it so much fun 😉

  • 24 Ian Magpie // Sep 30, 2012 at 11:32 AM

    Never mind lads. What matters most is that our bank balance is looking more and more healthy and the club is being ran in the correct way. Sod the poor results and the team being obviously short of quality at the back. Thats all that matters!!!!……………………………………………………………………………………well at least to some on here it is!!??lol

  • 25 WWYCD // Sep 30, 2012 at 11:34 AM

    FatmanJoe
    Much better lad, he must be made an example of! Burn him I say!

    Though I actually think he has done well thus far this season

  • 26 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 30, 2012 at 11:35 AM

    Ba is averaging over a goal every two games in the premier league over two seasons. He also scores very good goals and is a talented all round player, a fan favorite. If he continues to score goals and play well until January, that’s two full seasons injury free, someone surely will trigger the clause and offer him the wages he wants and we’ll have to match it or he’s off.

  • 27 Ian Magpie // Sep 30, 2012 at 11:37 AM

    I can see someone like Chelsea going in for Ba! If they did…………can you see him leaving?.I can!

  • 28 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 11:37 AM

    Jaw thats what everyone thought in the Summer but not a single bid. There has to be a reason for that.

  • 29 Nufc-83 // Sep 30, 2012 at 11:39 AM

    The fact is when willo is left as our most experienced cb we fall to pieces. Guti can work as hard as he wants but provides nothing down the left anymore so its dm or bench. Really hope we see more of Ferguson on lm. I would also give sammy a chance on the right and let hba have a free role behind ba. Its clear cisse and ba don’t work well together so one needs to be dropped and although i probably like cisse more than ba you can’t drop ba on current form.

  • 30 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 11:39 AM

    Given the injuries and games we’ve played the results are not really in the ‘poor’ category though are they. ‘Poor’ results would be those like mackems, villa, liverpool. I think after last years’ euphoria some reality needs to be taken in, some fans should rein in their disappointment and probably lower their expectations a bit, rather than think we deserve to be Arsenal.

  • 31 Nufc-83 // Sep 30, 2012 at 11:42 AM

    Ian if chelsea came in for ba you wouldn’t see the lad for dust. I think he comes across as being very selfish.

  • 32 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 11:42 AM

    Everyone praises Jonas workrate but seems to be flavour of the month for no end product. Surely a better option would be to switch him to fb where his workrate would strengthen the defence. Its not like he has never played there before. Its his position for Argentina.

  • 33 bills-son // Sep 30, 2012 at 11:43 AM

    Tsunki @ 15, great post and spot on.

  • 34 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 30, 2012 at 11:46 AM

    I imagine no one came in for him because of the fitness concerns and the wage demands, but the more he does the business, the more inevitable someone will take the punt, particularly if they’re in need, Liverpool for example or perhaps Chelsea who seem to rely so heavily on Torres now Drogba has left.

  • 35 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 11:48 AM

    tequilamag – I think Cabs’ role is highlighted by this game. Everyone wants him to push forward but yesterday we could see what a link he is in midfield for jonas and HBA. I never thought of Cbas as being our big star, handsome devil though he is, but yesterday illustrated an eye-opening lack of dreamboat about our ranks.

  • 36 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 11:49 AM

    *Cabs – a cbas is a fish.

  • 37 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Sep 30, 2012 at 11:50 AM

    Who wants a bet on who will get bashed next week?
    2-1 Pardew
    3-1 cisse
    5-1 tavernier
    5-1 harper
    7-1 perch

    Decent odds I think given the fickleness of some fans.

  • 38 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 11:52 AM

    Conaldo I’ll take a punt on Harps if he is still playing. put me down for a tenner ha ha.

  • 39 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 11:53 AM

    Possibly Jaw, but lets say for the sake of argument Liverpool bought him for 7 mill on a 4 year contract at 80K a week. Chances are no insurer is going to touch BA with a bargepole. If his knee blew up first game out then they are 16 mill in wages down with nothing to show. Hell of a gamble.

  • 40 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Sep 30, 2012 at 11:55 AM

    safe bet tsunki. He will probably be in goal against manure and the usual suspects will be on here saying how we should be hammering “teams like Man U” all the time. So if we lose or draw I think he will be the one to draw the heat.

    My bet is on tav, he will probably play against Bordeaux, which will be a very tough match.

    This will be a tough week for Newcastle, but an enjoyable one win lose or draw.

  • 41 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 11:55 AM

    Tsunki spot on
    Conaldo all of the above.

  • 42 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 11:55 AM

    Unreal blog metdown after an away draw though eh? Half of these ‘first-time’ posters I swear are guffawing mackems, plus the usual ‘I knew it’ crowd and of course Ketsy who had a field day, ruined his chance of glory a bit by plugging Abeid and Marveaux though ha ha.

    Thankfully we didnt get beat.

  • 43 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 11:57 AM

    I still think the judgement on willo is a little harsh. Dave’s term of willo needing someone to ‘carry him’… Well does that apply to tiote not playing well coz cabs isn’t alongside him? Or Ben arfa having a shocker coz Simpson isn’t playing behind him?

    We are missing key elements of our starting 11 and we played a team desperate for points at their home ground and came away with a point.

    It’s not about being carried, it’s about having strong leaders and players who dictate play. Unfortunately we missed colo and cabs in that respect and hopefully they’ll return soon.

  • 44 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 11:58 AM

    Conaldo:-

    usual suspects will be on here saying how we should be hammering “teams like Man U” all the time

    😀 😀 😀

  • 45 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:05 PM

    Ah Christ tsunki don’t start the italics, the blog will break again. :)

  • 46 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:05 PM

    Yeah, right, insurance issues, that hadn’t occurred to me, that may well have played a part in all that weird stuff around the time of the Everton game. Maybe his wages are already as high as an insurer is prepared to cover.

    I hope that’s the case, I don’t want him to go at all.

  • 47 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:08 PM

    ha ha conaldo I was thinking that as I wrote it and made doubly sure I closed the tag! I miss the italic blog though it looked lovely. And more optimistic, even when people were calling each other d***heads and that :)

  • 48 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:10 PM

    Ahem – crazy theory no.1 -is our maroon strip demotivational? Discuss.

  • 49 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:10 PM

    Tsunki – haha yeah, everything’s more civilised on a slight angle. Even childish insults :)

  • 50 microbar // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:10 PM

    Pardew Hardly Ever Sees Mike Ashley.
    Never sees his money either lol.

  • 51 dave 1961 // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:11 PM

    FatmanJoe
    i could also have put that Williamson has a concentration problem too as he often goes to sleep during games, it will take Taylor quite a while to fully get over his injury, by that i mean the knee. we as a club invited this to happen when you take chance after chance it always catches up, its amazing the 3rd highest supported club having 3 first team center half’s, we invited our own problems. and now we have problems.

  • 52 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:12 PM

    Listen if Ba had wanted or been able to go, he would have gone by now. Somehow I think he’s stuck by choice or design.

  • 53 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:12 PM

    Maroon strip = people thinking about Star Trek = people thinking about Star Wars = people thinking how bad Star Wars attack of the clones is = demotivated and upset.

  • 54 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:14 PM

    do they look like PJ’s and make them sleepy?

  • 55 jawballsaswallwell // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:15 PM

    I hate seeing the lads out of the traditional black and white, hate it! It hardly ever clashes, but we most often wear the change strip on away days, just to flog away kits.

  • 56 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:16 PM

    Looks like the dust is settling a bit, back later.

  • 57 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:16 PM

    I just hope none of the players read the blog. Must be a bummer to come on and find out your shite, lazy, asleep not good enough for Sunday league etc

  • 58 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:17 PM

    What the blog really needs is it’s counsellor, mediator and moderator.

    Ibiza, we need you now.

  • 59 Tsunki // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:18 PM

    I said i was going, but I wonder if Ketsy is really Mehdi Abeid?

  • 60 tequilamag // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:19 PM

    Kets is really eds evil twin.

  • 61 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:24 PM

    Dave I think that can be true of a lot of our players yesterday.

    Funny what a week can do. Last week he was our best player against Norwich. Now we have a team issue whereby nearly every player on the pitch looks out of it but once again the daggers come out only for willo.

    Scapegoat united.

    Just interested in how you rate the other players yesterday? If you could just indulge me this once.

  • 62 FatmanJoe // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:26 PM

    Tsunki

    You have to be careful there as the same could be said about me… Am I actually mike Williamson?

  • 63 mot7 // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:41 PM

    Our play yesterday seemed very of the cuff with no real plan . I like pardew and think he wants to play a good passing game and i do think we have a majority of players that want to play this way so does our lack of quality ball retention and lack of imagination come from the coaching or are the players not responding to his ideas.

  • 64 dave 1961 // Sep 30, 2012 at 12:50 PM

    FatmanJoe
    i would make Williamson captain on Thursday a bit of responsibility can be the making of some people. in business i have done it with people that i felt were afraid & they have done well i think it would work with Williamson. its a case of making the best of what we have, Pardew will be ok once his best 11 are fit then he does not need to think too much about it.

  • 65 NEWEXPATMAGPIE // Sep 30, 2012 at 2:35 PM

    Marty@ 16:

    Don,t get me wrong but it seems some of the whole team are,nt playing with the same drive as last year! Injuries hav,nt helped !

    But after every game, another name player seems to get crucified, each week on this Blog!

    I come on here and wander who,s next for the tirade of lets drop him, he,s no good! We should be backing the playing and not slagging em off every chance we have!
    ALL of them are doing their level best and they are all not helped by the Negative Crap that appears on here week-in ,week-out!

    Plus we are still not losing games, having drawn a few this time around! Our league position is not Bad when according to some on here we are playing Shite! These are the same group who gained 5th place last year and managed to qualify for the Europa League you know!




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