Any youngster who is at Newcastle United these days knows that it they are good enough, by being impressive in training and keeping their heads down, they will have every chance to play in the Newcastle first team, and it doesn’t matter what age they are – if you are good enough you are old enough.
Adam Campbell – could get a game on Thursday
Sammy Ameobi, Shane Ferguson, James Tavernier and Gael Bigirimana are all in contention to start the game against Bordeaux on Thursday night, and it seems that 17 year-old Adam Campbell may come into the squad too.
Newcastle will continue to play an under-strength side in Europe to keep our best and more experienced players for the league games, but we noticed last night that Chelsea had just about their strongest side out when they demolished Danish side Nordsjaelland 4-0 in the Champions League.
And Manchester United are making sure they don’t field weak sides in Europe this season after the embarrassment of last season, when they were knocked out of the Champions League early, and dropped down to the Europa league, but were summarily knocked out of that league too.
But Alan Pardew seems confident about the ability of the youngsters who will play against Bordeaux tomorrow night:
“I am secure about them because I see what they do at the training ground.” “To me they aren’t young boys, they are professional footballers.” “I don’t look at people’s age I look at their quality.”
“I look at Adam Campbell and I don’t see much between him at 17 and Shola at 30. He’s at the level.” “It is now how he grows from here.”
“We haven’t got a big pool of strikers.” “But we have a real quality pool. You have to say that.” “Haris is in there and Sammy Ameobi has done very well too.” “That is our group now really.”
“They have to get in there and show they can step up.”
We need a win on Thursday night, and then we need to give a very account of ourselves on Sunday afternoon too – at home to Manchester United.
The two week International break is coming up after Sunday, and there’s nothing worse than having a bad result going into that break, and there’s nothing much better than having a win either.
We’ll take the win.
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1 Carryingcoals // Oct 3, 2012 at 11:07 AM
Maybe Sammy will get the nod over Vuckic ?
Campbell on with 15 mins to go…
2 Carryingcoals // Oct 3, 2012 at 11:09 AM
Elliot
Tav Perch Willo Santon
Obertan Bigi Anita Fergie
Shola Sammy
Same side maybe fergie LB and Marveaux ahead of him = santon rested.
Possibly Vuckic for Sammy.
Regardless – tough game on Thursday.
3 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 3, 2012 at 11:09 AM
Lightening fingers Harrison is at work
It would seem safe to assume that Campbell will get some time on the field tomorrow. I’d like to see him get a decent run out, obviously depending on how the game is going.
4 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 3, 2012 at 11:12 AM
Carrying…I can see that team being picked. Maybe another start for Gosling though?
Marveaux is a player I’m giving a lot of thought to at the minute. From his previous performances (albeit brief ones) he showed some real talent and I was really looking forward to him making an impact this season. Seems to be out of sorts though, so maybe he needs to start and get some more game time. So, perhaps Fergie at LB as you say.
5 Carryingcoals // Oct 3, 2012 at 11:14 AM
Ah yeah Gosling… forgot to think about him Ibiza.
Yeah I wanted more from Marv, still a long way to go and he can have a big contribution nonetheless. I’m really excited to go to tomorrow’s game, been ages since I’ve been to a European game.
I’m off now mate, catch u soon
6 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 3, 2012 at 11:17 AM
How can you forget Gosling? Enjoy the match, I’d say you lucky b*st*rd, but I suppose we’ll have to see how we perform to know that
Have a good one.
7 cupiddstunt // Oct 3, 2012 at 11:17 AM
BIz about the tuna thing.
I think with the price of tuna now only billionaires can afford to smother their feet in it
8 hotdog // Oct 3, 2012 at 11:17 AM
I like Vuckic but his lack of pace is a concern. I dont think we have had that lightening pace since Bellamy left and id like to see campbell get 20mins.
Ibiza – “at work” you familiar with that phrase
9 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 3, 2012 at 11:19 AM
Carrying
Good line up although i’d like to see gabby in a different role tbh as he does nout on the wing
My line up would be
Eliiot
Tav perch wilo good(just wanna see this lad play!)
Sammy anita gosling/vuckic fergie
Gabby
Strolla
10 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 3, 2012 at 11:19 AM
Cupid…So finally some breakthrough as to where all the money goes!
Hotdog…Agreed. We need a nippy CF to ask some questions that our current boys don’t, Campbell seems perfect for that. I hope he gets around 20 minutes, 5-10 can be hard to really get much of a chance.
At work? I’m sounding it out, but no, doesn’t ring any bells – should I be familiar with it?
11 hotdog // Oct 3, 2012 at 11:23 AM
Ibiza – Nah its overrated
Vuckic Gosling Marveaux Sammi Ferguson. They all get a mention on here and although the first team are struggling can you hand on heart say any of them should be automatically given a first team shirt.
Fergy might have done enough to edge Guti out after his cameo’s but he needs a good 90mins on Thurs
12 JAMSHA // Oct 3, 2012 at 11:27 AM
Newcastle VS Bordeaux Live On Tensports India 12.30 Am .. cheers
13 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 3, 2012 at 11:29 AM
Hotdog….Just googled it…what a horrific idea. Who came up with it and why do people do it? Madness.
On the young players. I suppose you’re saying if we had more establish starters within the squad would these players get a look in or perhaps more to the point would they be deemed good enough to do so, another way of looking at it is, are we making do because we have to?
Personally, I love seeing young players coming through in to the first team. There are some games where they’re really not quite ready, so it would seem that we are gambling somewhat. I do think at their age they are capable, but are still short of dislodging any normal starters for now.
Unless the season turns out to be one big disaster, always an option for the toon, I would think the experience a lot of them will have had will leave the club in a great position. I have faith.
14 jawballsaswallwell // Oct 3, 2012 at 11:30 AM
I try to temper my enthusiasm for young players cos so few make to the very highest level, but i’d love to see this kid make it, because he both creates and scores goals, he’s a local lad and he’s fast. Even Beardsley didn’t have all that and pace, he’d be idolized.
15 jesperfuglsang // Oct 3, 2012 at 11:37 AM
Hi lads
about Vuckic and his lack of pace (and Strolla has a lot I know
) lol…seriously just put in a position where oace is not the most important attribute or put him next to a pacy striker 
…I have always thought he was great in a three men midfield (4-3-3) But that is just me having an opinion again
lol
16 hotdog // Oct 3, 2012 at 11:37 AM
jaw – Sir Peter had everyhting my friend.
Ibiza – Yip the experience will be good but we need to introduce them when things are going well as was seen with Ossie’s boys. Although Clarkie, Elliott & Watson eventually showed they were good players they struggled to cope with that relegation pressure!
Ive just googled “Lunch” now there is an idea
17 Kebabacus // Oct 3, 2012 at 11:37 AM
Our attacking play has been so flat recently it can’t hurt to chuck the young’un on for 30 mins. I completely agree with Hotdog, we haven’t had scary pace for a long time.
Bordeaux shouldn’t be underestimated, they are flying atm. Have a look at this from earlier this season, the first two goals are frickin good:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0sk6f50ldQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
18 jesperfuglsang // Oct 3, 2012 at 11:40 AM
*oace = pace
(silly tablet and your lack of spell check)
19 hotdog // Oct 3, 2012 at 11:42 AM
jesper – Good point i was going to say pace is needed in the modern game then Van Persie popped in my head so i didnt say it – oh i did, oh well you get what i mean haha
20 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 3, 2012 at 11:43 AM
Jesper…We’ve warned you about opinions. Let’s not go over it again.
Hotdog….There’s an idea. It is always better to break them in slowly and without so much pressure. Oh well, luxury of choice, wouldn’t that be nice
21 jesperfuglsang // Oct 3, 2012 at 11:47 AM
Hotdog…excatly
…Vuckic is just another player with a lack of confidence, but we do need to raise his bottom level (can you say that about football in English?)
Ibiza…I know I know…you don’t have to say more! I got it! Ite won’t happen again…I promise – honestly, I do. I swear
22 jawballsaswallwell // Oct 3, 2012 at 11:48 AM
Hotdog, Beardley is incomparable, my apologies, but did he have real pace, I know he had change of pace, but genuine pace, I don’t remember that. Regardless, he certainly didn’t need it if he lacked it, so point taken.
23 Jail for Ashley // Oct 3, 2012 at 11:49 AM
Unfortunately I’m going to be on a train tomorrow night when the game is on,do you’se think that the train wi-fi will be strong enough to access one of them streams that people post on here.
Responses appreciated.
24 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 3, 2012 at 11:53 AM
Jesper…Are we suggesting plastic surgery to help Vuckic? Not sure I see how a higher bum will help, but I’m no expert.
25 jesperfuglsang // Oct 3, 2012 at 11:53 AM
About lunch; I had a meatball sandwish – it was not a good idea
lol
26 jesperfuglsang // Oct 3, 2012 at 11:53 AM
*sandwich
27 jesperfuglsang // Oct 3, 2012 at 11:56 AM
Ibiza…I knew when I wrote that it would be misinterpreted ;D lol
…how to you say it in English (if you get my drift ;D)
28 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 3, 2012 at 11:58 AM
Jail…Sorry mate, not a clue. A good site for links is: http://www.footballstreaming.info/streams/todays-links/
Jesper….I’m actually not 100% what you meant. Needs to raise his basic game?
29 jesperfuglsang // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:02 PM
Ibiza…that was excatly what I meant
…in Danish you have the word “bottom level” which is what you basically have to raise. Meaning the distance between your top level of performance and your bottom level of performance gets shorter.
30 wynsleap // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:02 PM
Ed – you can’t really compare us to Manure and Chelsea when it comes to putting out a senior squad in European games.
Unfortunately Pardew has no choice but to call up the young ones as unlike those two clubs he doesn’t have two top quality first elevens or, indeed, enough players.
Mind you if we had spent some more money in the last window it would have helped but there again…..
Having said all that, it is a good chance for the likes of Ferguson, Campbell and Sammi to push their claims for a place on the first team bench at least.
Still not convinced about Vuckic though.
31 jesperfuglsang // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:03 PM
*and in this case the word would probably be smaller? (…now I am just confused
) lol
32 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:08 PM
Jesper…Welcome to my world. An existence of constant confusion. Embrace it.
I’m glad I successfully understood you. Now stop speaking gibberish
33 jawballsaswallwell // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:09 PM
I know Manure is Utd, but which one is Man Shite, is that also Utd, charming I know, but I like the term, but can’t use it with confidence.
34 hotdog // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:10 PM
jaw – You have me thinking and yes I think he did. When he scampered after his man he invariably caught him and when he went in on goal he couldnt be caught. Not scary pace but defo quick enough in his era!
35 jesperfuglsang // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:13 PM
Ibiza…do you use your English often in your line of work or is it mostly Spanish?
…I don’t use my English like I used to. When I lived in ‘the land of constant grey sky and rain’ I remember there were times when I thought in English (I even answered in phone in English when they called from back home)
talk about confusion…lol
36 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:16 PM
Jesper….I mostly speak in English. Some bits here and there have been replaced with Spanish out of habit. It’s odd when you can’t remember the word for something in your native language. My Spanish is nowhere near good enough though.
Jawball @33…Sorry, what are you trying to say there, not following.
37 ppb // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:18 PM
@jaw man shitty. take one guess
38 jesperfuglsang // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:18 PM
Jewball…Man Shite should be Citeh if you ask me (just so we’re clear this is by no means an opinion
) lol
39 ppb // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:20 PM
i speak a lot of Klingon in my line of work in the Starfleet.
40 hotdog // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:25 PM
ppb – Whats Klingon for “I have ate my lunch too quick and feel sick” ?
41 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:27 PM
As per usual ppb and hotdog veering away from football chat. You two….honestly.
42 ppb // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:28 PM
@hotdog ragch mag nor saighma mea bleurgh
43 jawballsaswallwell // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:28 PM
Thanks for clearing that up for me, but Jesper, my name isn’t Jewball, that would be quite outrageous.
44 cupiddstunt // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:29 PM
Jesperfuglsang @ # 31
Don’t worry about it, it has been said many a time in the past and the comment has also been passed on here that the beauty of English is it has so many ways to express things, so confusion is par for the course.
As English is not your first language and you handle it better than a lot on here I think you are allowed the odd aberration.
Jaw @ # 33
I always see manure as red and man shitty as blue if that helps at all.
45 ppb // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:29 PM
sorry ibiza. so Adam Campbell. hit or miss?
46 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:29 PM
Ah yes, bleurgh meaning to feel sick.
47 ppb // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:30 PM
jewball. hahaha how did i miss that?
48 hotdog // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:31 PM
ppb – hahahaha – quality!
49 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:32 PM
ppb…It’s alright. You know how much I dislike people deviating from football talk.
I’m putting my neck on the line. Hit. The few gingers that make it pro seem to be somewhat decent and that is what I am basing this on. I should point out I’m really only thinking Paul Scholes. Not sure that should be my basis, but hey.
Jawball…..Was wondering if that would be spotted.
50 ppb // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:32 PM
ah ibiza you speak Klingon?
51 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:34 PM
ppb….Well, I wouldn’t claim to be an expert. In fact, I couldn’t claim to know any at all. So, probably as much as you
52 jawballsaswallwell // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:35 PM
It’s not Man Shitty that’s the problem, that one’s obvious. It’s the term Man Shite and therein lies my confusion as shite and manure have a clear connection.
53 hotdog // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:36 PM
ppb -You dont need to apologise to Ibiza, he cant possibly stick to football patta, the amount of time he is on here! Can you mate
54 jesperfuglsang // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:37 PM
Jaw…it just shows you Manchester is nothing but crap ;D lol
55 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:38 PM
Hotdog…Outrageous claim. I ask you to point me in the direction of some proof of this. Cos that’ll be a struggle
56 jesperfuglsang // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:40 PM
Sorry Jaw…there I just went anti-semitic on you and called you jew
so sorry mate!
57 jesperfuglsang // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:41 PM
* this is just not my day!
58 jawballsaswallwell // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:44 PM
No no, not all Jesper, if you are indeed seriously apologising.
I couldn’t possibly be offended by that, it was very funny.
59 jesperfuglsang // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:44 PM
Cupid…once again thanks mate
Jaw…I take back my apology…it’s ppB who owe you one
lol
60 cupiddstunt // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:44 PM
Jawballsaswallwell @ # 52
I think this may well be linked to the posts of Jesper and how English often eludes him.
I have never seen or saw the title “man shite” but I think the posters who post man “shite” are really just meaning shitee, shity, shitty, shittie or something along those lines.
There you go Jesper so many ways to title the same crap.
61 hotdog // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:44 PM
Ibiza – Im no Detective but id think id have you “banged to rights” in about 2mins lol
62 Toonboy_84 // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:45 PM
Talking of Manchester. Was at the Reading game and some guy asked my dad if he was from Manchester because of his accent (Geordie that has lived in Oxford for 30 years). We were right at the top of the stand. I pointed at the stairs and told him if he comes out with that crap again, then he would be going down them head first. I was only kidding but he didn’t appear for the second half
63 jesperfuglsang // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:46 PM
Jaw…but sincere it was! (…but it was ppB who the the blunder I can see
)
64 cupiddstunt // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:48 PM
Jesper getting funnier by the post
65 jesperfuglsang // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:50 PM
Cupid…this is seriously not my day
…nothing has gone right today…lol (I need coffee)
66 jawballsaswallwell // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:52 PM
Jesper, it’s been charming, but may I suggest a little lie down.
67 Tsunki // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:53 PM
If Campbell came on and did a Rooney that would set the cat among the Dembas.
Please don’t throw a home tie away I want us to stay in europe a while.
68 jesperfuglsang // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:54 PM
I am taking my que from Toonboy here…Which English accent do you guys think is the most horrible and vice versa? ”
…you can name a few if you like
69 Toonboy_84 // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:58 PM
Jesper
Scouse is awful
70 hotdog // Oct 3, 2012 at 12:58 PM
Right lads – im off, if i dont get some work done the kids and missus will be sitting with the suitcases on the kerb next week
71 jesperfuglsang // Oct 3, 2012 at 1:00 PM
Toonboy…I have lived in London and Cockney is definitely not nice. I am told Brixton and Camden are nothing to write home about either???
72 Tsunki // Oct 3, 2012 at 1:04 PM
Hotdog said that so that it almost sounded like a bad thing. I don’t rate this work nonsense. Anyway what’s this new club being formed in manchester I am hearing about?
Have I missed any big barneys? Or are they at work too?
73 cupiddstunt // Oct 3, 2012 at 1:05 PM
Jesper for me the cockney accent sounds horrendous with their inability to pronounce “th” correctly I feel it just makes them sound illiterate, and I find the scouse accent sometimes amusing but over the piece nasally and irritating.
But that being said I do not like to hear my own voice as I think I sound thick (but maybe I am thick and just deluding myself about being adequate)
It would not be the first time I have been accused of suffering from delusions of adequacy.
74 Toonboy_84 // Oct 3, 2012 at 1:05 PM
Jesper
I am from oxford. Lived here all my life (28 years) but when I’m in Newcastle, my family say I sound cockney. In reality though, I don’t. I have friends from London who are proper cockney and us oxford lot sound nothing like them.
75 jawballsaswallwell // Oct 3, 2012 at 1:07 PM
Just to clear something up, because now I’m wondering if I may have inadvertently caused confusion. I did not pick up the term Man Shite from one of Jespers posts, which by the way are crystal clear, I’ve been using it for years, not Man shitty but Man Shite and only in reference to Man U.
Guess I can’t do that any more.
76 Tsunki // Oct 3, 2012 at 1:08 PM
Jesper it has to be scouse. Even they don’t like it.
When you say ‘Track Back’ it sounds like someone coughing up a fish bone..
77 cupiddstunt // Oct 3, 2012 at 1:09 PM
Jawballsaswallwell
Guess you can’t
78 Tsunki // Oct 3, 2012 at 1:11 PM
I used to live in Reading and they thought it a grave insult to be called cockneys ha ha.
79 jesperfuglsang // Oct 3, 2012 at 1:11 PM
Cupid… there there my friend
…there is a dialect where the R’s are not pronounced (or it’s impossible to here them) I don’t know which dialect it is, but it really bugs me
Toonboy…I like Oxford English ( very RP
) lol
80 hotdog // Oct 3, 2012 at 1:11 PM
Tsunki – Who would make my tea & do my washing
jaw- What you saying
Right im really off no more posts for hotdog
81 jesperfuglsang // Oct 3, 2012 at 1:12 PM
*here = hear
82 Keith in France // Oct 3, 2012 at 1:12 PM
I have seen Bordeaux play a few times last season and they are not bad at all. An under strength Newcastle team are really going to have to up their game to get a positive result.
83 Tsunki // Oct 3, 2012 at 1:14 PM
Hotdog ok keep the missus then
84 jawballsaswallwell // Oct 3, 2012 at 1:15 PM
No, but I can use it to describe City, Man Shite is way more emphatic than Man Shitty
85 jesperfuglsang // Oct 3, 2012 at 1:16 PM
Tsunki…Reading is that Cockney? Always thought it was East End London
…Scouser is that only Liverpool? What do you call the Manchester dialect?
Geordie is nice…it has a bit og Scottish and Scandinavian about it
86 cupiddstunt // Oct 3, 2012 at 1:17 PM
Tsunki @ # 78
When you think about it cockney is east London and Redding is way out west about 30 odd miles so it’s understandable that they would be less than impressed at being called a cockney.
A bit like when travelling mackems get asked if they are Geordies.
87 jesperfuglsang // Oct 3, 2012 at 1:19 PM
Cupid…but them Mackems should be impressed
lol
88 cupiddstunt // Oct 3, 2012 at 1:21 PM
Hold on boys there is someone at post # 82 trying to talk about football, (think he’s on the wrong blog by chance?)
89 cupiddstunt // Oct 3, 2012 at 1:28 PM
Jesper I don’t know, I just don’t know.
I can maybe see where some of the irritation comes from the world has never heard of a mackem.
When they are off globetrotting in their red and white tops only to be asked if they were Geordies has to be a little galling to say the least.
By the way Keith in France I think the general consensus is yes we will have to be on our game to get anything from Bordeaux game.
90 Rozzy // Oct 3, 2012 at 1:29 PM
I think 3 or 4 key first team players are needed in this game as they are no push over
91 mattyNUFC // Oct 3, 2012 at 1:30 PM
i know this is a pretty polarizing topic, you’re either for or against him, trust pardew’s judgement or you don’t
but i just re-read an article on Abeid being unhappy at a lack of chances. I like the amount of youth players we have in the mix. we have a good handful who all could step up realistically, and out of all of them, bar perhaps ferguson, i think Abeid is the most promising (assuming bigi is already part of the first team, which he is).
When clubs like Roma and Inter are making inquiries for him, i think that says it all.
We need to play him or lose him, in my opinion, and i don’t want to lose him. Besides Cabaye, it’s a no brainer he’s our most creative CM. I feel bad for him as he’s had assurances since his arrival that he’d play. He seems like a really good kid with a good attitude but if he’s not playing in the reserves because that comp is pretty much defunct and only getting a handful of games for the u21s, how is he going to develop. at worst, get him loaned to a team where he will at least be playing. we’re only hurting ourselves with how we’re handling his situation.
hope he plays thursday
92 Toonboy_84 // Oct 3, 2012 at 1:32 PM
Jesper
Sorry, might be being thick but what is RP?
93 jesperfuglsang // Oct 3, 2012 at 1:33 PM
Cupid…fun chat about English dialects and RP accents (that’s what we learn here in DK)
…on to football it is (it seems even Ed has hit a slumb
)
94 Dannyo // Oct 3, 2012 at 1:37 PM
Pre-match presser about to start.
Ryder and Starforth usually puts out some comments from AP on twitter
95 Dannyo // Oct 3, 2012 at 1:38 PM
Cabaye actually alongside AP today
Fit?
96 Dannyo // Oct 3, 2012 at 1:41 PM
Lee Ryder ?@lee_ryder
Cabaye: “Bordeaux are a very good club. Technically they are very good and score goals as well.” #NUFC
97 mattyNUFC // Oct 3, 2012 at 1:44 PM
…what insight. they score goals?
98 beefman13 // Oct 3, 2012 at 1:47 PM
Ilove the fact that AP sees our players ie campbell fergie sammy vucic bigi as not just young kids to throw in to give the seniors a rest but as professional footballers in their own right.
campbell will be special at the toon imo as will fergie, AP sees them in training knows their abilities as well, and for him to rate campbell already alongside shola who has all that experience must give adam such a boost.
Marveaux just needs a run he has not really had a consecutive spell of matches and its very hard when its one full game followed by 20 mins followed by 10 mins, i have always thought him and fergie on the left would link really well, fergie playing a bit of a wingback overlapping and putting those quality crosses in, of course thats just an option, it would be nice to mix it up a bit, just as i dont think we should be so rigid up front with two target men lets mix it up and interchange our players, benny picking the ball up inside our own half feedin demba or cisse or bringing say marveaux and fergie in to play
Also lets start from the back a bit more as well we have the players to do that, the big hoof imost of the time just gives the ball back to the opposition most of the time.
i think we may have a tough first half a aganst the french 2moro night as they have their tails up but i feel second half we can get a breakthrough and not tempting fate secure the three points!
99 mattyNUFC // Oct 3, 2012 at 1:51 PM
beefman
and to add to it, let’s stop centering every single set piece around williamson who never gets his head on the ball in the first place! that would be a start!
probably the most infuriating thing for me this season. williamson will not be that ’8-goal CB’ pardew said was requisite this summer, no matter how much anyone works with him.
100 santonthenewmaldini // Oct 3, 2012 at 1:52 PM
We need to start well against Bordeuax as it looks like they are a counter attacking team and quite like to invite teams to try break them down which means we will get a lot of the ball
Would like us to give Vuckic another go up frontin 433 and 451 but this time with Obertan and Ferguson on the wings sending in crosses and possibly have Gosling and Abeid playing in midfield supporting him with late runs into the box if not Abeid Cabaye could certainly use some game time
101 cupiddstunt // Oct 3, 2012 at 1:54 PM
mattyNUFC @ # 91
Don’t let jeff hear you saying that,,,,, According to jeff Abeid is head and shoulders above Cabaye and should start in front of him, although never really having seen enough of Abeid I can’t really say.
But can say with Cabaye being just around 5’8’’ and Abeid at 6ft plus and only just 20 Abeid may very well end up head and shoulders above Cabaye. So although jeff appears to be a bit of a troll he may well end up being right.
102 beefman13 // Oct 3, 2012 at 1:56 PM
Matty ,spot on son, willio gives away free kick after free kick in the opposing box with his pushes and shoves, he is due a goal surely but we have to mix our plays up and get much better quality in there, hopefully cabaye is getting up to full speed with that, that said i bet fergie could put a wicked free kick in.
103 cupiddstunt // Oct 3, 2012 at 1:57 PM
Toonboy_84 @ # 92
I think it may be “regional and provincial” accents
104 mattyNUFC // Oct 3, 2012 at 1:58 PM
cupid
i’ve seen him play probably 8 or 9 times since he’s been here, a lot in pre-season
really is beyond comprehension how he is not as established in the first team as bigi….even vuckic for that matter. he is a very classy, and above all talented player. physically mature, technically composed
i still think gosling’s continued inclusion over him may be tinged with, hmm, perhaps an undercurrent of xenophobia….? maybe? i don’t think it’s too conspiratorial to think pardew wants an english to make the grade over a younger, obviously more talented foreigner who hasn’t garnered a good grasp on english, is it?
105 cupiddstunt // Oct 3, 2012 at 2:06 PM
mattyNUFC @ # 104
Thanks for that Matty not living near hand makes it difficult to get to see the fringe players as often as others.
Although I did hear is being said that Abied had a bit of a temperament problem so maybe AP is treating him the same way he dealt with HBA, and showing him when he behaves like a professional he will be treated like one.
106 cupiddstunt // Oct 3, 2012 at 2:10 PM
It looks like a lot of these north African/French players are somewhat problematic, obviously a nurture thing.
107 mattyNUFC // Oct 3, 2012 at 2:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dzOXqnFFrU
there’s a video of abeid for nufc. ok, so a lot of the stuff he does is simple, but what he does no one else in the midfield is currently capable of, and that’s incorporating the attack from a deep-lying midfield role
tell me this isn’t exactly what’s needed….maybe he’s not ready to be a starter, but surely he deserves some first team action?
ok, i’ll stop with the abeid posts now
108 Dannyo // Oct 3, 2012 at 2:30 PM
Simmos fit.
Good news imo.
109 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 3, 2012 at 2:31 PM
Dannyo…That is good news.
Hotdog….Although it would only take 2 minutes, save your time. I concede.
110 mattyNUFC // Oct 3, 2012 at 2:32 PM
good news on simmo. watching the replay of valencia v lille now. debuchy would be an improvement on simmo but he’s no world beater…..given this is one performance
111 ppb // Oct 3, 2012 at 2:36 PM
Simpson has been missed imo
112 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 3, 2012 at 2:41 PM
ppb….I bet Willo will be pleased to have someone with whom he can share the blame. Whilst he is not fantastic, he does do a job well. I know people see it as a weak argument, but he played almost every game last season at RB and overall we did pretty well from what I remember, it was 5th place right?
Has anyone been keeping an eye on Debuchy? Has his form dropped since the summer? Lille don’t seem to be doing too well, although I am sure this would be largely down to other players leaving and a change of personnel rather than our future RB
113 Toonboy_84 // Oct 3, 2012 at 2:43 PM
Love the way everybody is glad simmo is back.
You don’t know what you got till it’s gone.
114 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Oct 3, 2012 at 2:45 PM
Looking forward to see if Ferguson can cross consistently as well as he has in the last few games.
If so, we’ve got an absolute gem.
115 hotdog // Oct 3, 2012 at 2:46 PM
Ibza – Thought you might u wussss
Beefman – Remember we were debating Man U going down the swanny? On the radio yestarday a banker or should that be wan**r, was saying that JJB was valued at 1 Billion 4 years ago and guess what they are worth today? Yip 0p
Im not suggesting that they could fall this far but i still say if the banks call in the loans from the glasiers they are screwed, hopefully
116 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Oct 3, 2012 at 2:47 PM
Debuchy got sent off last night I think
117 hotdog // Oct 3, 2012 at 2:49 PM
Is Debuchy going to bust a gut for Lille after his chairman shafted him, me thinks not!
118 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 3, 2012 at 2:51 PM
Hotdog….It would have been foolish to fight it really.
Toonboy….Some of us did know. Don’t worry, there will be some not so pleased by the news.
Gonufc…..Let’s hope so. We’ve been desperately needing someone who can put in a decent cross. Anyone seen or know if he’s any good at free kicks? If he is, can someone tell him to not hit it towards Williamson.
119 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Oct 3, 2012 at 2:55 PM
Well, Ferguson’s cross for Ba’s second (the handball) was an absolute beauty- it was practically like a Beckham cross- if he can do just 1 of those a match then he’ll be invaluable.
120 Dannyo // Oct 3, 2012 at 2:55 PM
@Toonboy84
Exactamundo.
121 Toonboy_84 // Oct 3, 2012 at 2:57 PM
Ibiza
I am happy he’s back. Him being injured wouldn’t have been so bad, had Raylor been fit. Can’t understand all the simmo haters. He’s not the best by any means, but a consistently solid rb.
122 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:01 PM
gonufc…..Agreed. Given a good delivery, you have to fancy one of our forwards getting it in the net…..let’s hope not too many more are scored with someone’s hand though.
123 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:03 PM
Toonboy….There are better RB’s out there, that is for sure (in fact 19 better one’s in the PL alone if you ask the oracle). With maybe the exception of Anita, he is the best RB we have at the club imo. Some of the other choices may have better aspects of the position down, but overall he provides a more complete FB from what I’ve seen.
124 dave 1961 // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:06 PM
The only way you could work with Williamson to stop his errors is to send him down a pit.
125 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:08 PM
Dave…Not a clicker system like with dogs? Performs his trick well, click, he gets a treat. No click, no treat. You watch the lad sort out those errors. If that doesn’t work, then yes, off to the pit!
126 Tsunki // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:11 PM
Come back to the fold simmo, all is forgiven. We. Miss your premiership quality. At best
127 dave 1961 // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:13 PM
A cattle prodder might work, when ever he put his harm on someone zap him, or taser him, mind i would not like the job as i might get carried away and just start zapping him for fun.
128 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:14 PM
Anyone seen we’ve been linked with….wait for it….an actual CB? Not a striker or midfielder. Crazy I know. No idea if there is any truth to it (givemefootball.com sounds as though it should be called givemeb*ll*cksaboutfootball.com) Aleksandar Dragovic (FC Basel), but good to see us being linked with a position we actually may need.
Straws, anyone want to join me in clutching any?
129 dave 1961 // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:16 PM
how about one of these,
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/dog-supplies/dog-training/remote-behavior-training/ps/c/3307/9/30?ref=4131&subref=AA&cmpid=PPC-B-4131
130 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:16 PM
Dave….How could you possibly take enjoyment from Zapping Mike Williamson? This really shows you in a bad lig….wait a second, that is quite amusing.
So, not a Willo fan then?
Tsunki…Easy now. Premiership relegation standard at best.
131 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:16 PM
“No!! Bad Williamson! Not so tight to the forward! That’s it, good boy…”
132 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:18 PM
Dave. I like the spray one. Teach him by spraying citrus in his face. Can’t fail. Here are some key points for you kind folk.
* Remote spray collar interrupts your dog’s behavior with an unpleasant but harmless citrus spray – no electricity
* Correct behavior safely and effectively from up to a 300-yard-range
* Four spray levels plus tone buttons give you flexibility in correcting or reinforcing your dog
133 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:19 PM
I say if we get a free kick and Williamson makes a run up field, we give him a quick maximum strength spray
134 check the toastie // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:21 PM
I am not glad Simmo is back, wish he had left the club, i suppose we have been missing his physical presence in defence or maybe his surging runs and link play or maybe his delicate one two football or maybe his blistering pace that covers our CB’s, maybe the fact he always seems to have so much time on the ball, or maybe he hasnt been missed at all, we were shit before he got injured and have been shit while he has been out.
Anita should be our fisrt choice full back, lets him settle into the EPL and then slowly move him into a holding 2 with Mr T, you never know we might string more than 3 passes together before xmas.
Simmo back good news, have people sunk to a new delude all time low, like he will make any difference whatsoever, bollocks.
135 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:22 PM
Or perhaps rather than punish him with unpleasant citrus….reinforce good behaviour with vibrations. Key points:
* Remote dog trainers with exclusive adjustable vibration correction
* 1/2 mile (880 yard) range allows greater freedom to train your dog
* Rechargeable water-resistant transmitter & waterproof dog collar
* Choose 15 level vibration only OR w/ additional static stimulation plus vibration/static
136 catchy in norway // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:23 PM
i can see why a few of the nufc players would feel a little pissed right now,,
pardew has his fave players , he says one thing then does another,,
i may have left newcastle 5 years ago, but i still have a lot of friends who go and watch both first team and reservs,,
from both last preseason and this one, mehdi was one of our better performers, and my friends who go to to the reserve matches , have all said, he is ready for first team, and from what they say, he can play both ofensive and defensive, kind of like cabaye,,,
my big beef with pardew is his team selection and how he sets them up to play,, make no mistake,, he is the one who has them plying so poor right now, he works with them all week, and they carry out his game plan to the letter,,
if not,, the first sub would and should be JONAS, if pardew has him in the team as a left midfielder or winger, maybe jonas should try playing there,, but pardew leaves him on the pitch, whats that all about
cabaye,, for spells last season, and most the games, cabaye has played far to deep,, he is a ball playing midfielder, with a good shot, and better pass,, its quite hard for him to play offensive when pardew has him sitting deep next to tiote jonas, bigi, perch, (not all at the same time,, but there seems to be 3 DMF)
i like bigi, done nothing wrong, but from what i have seen, he is only as good as mehdi, yet mehdi has had his nose pushed out,,
when pardew want to change the play,, he leaves it very late,, and nearly always it is obertan??? is he really that good of an impact sub?? ferg has been; yet to see anything from him to suggest he will be a good footballer never mind a great one,, is he really that mcuh better than the others that dont get on the bench,,
next point that is bugging the shit out of me,, is pardews lack of respect for cup compititions,, every cup we enter is a good chance to win,, the same as every other team,, so why play such a weakend team??? put your best team out and try, instead of saying stuff like we give it go,, nooo, they was good if am honest, we was poor tonight,, grrrrrrrr,, same ol same ol,, change the record,,
do you job,, play your best players, not your fave players,, and i dont want to hear the bullshit saying, but there just kids,, if there old enough, and good enough, more to the point better than what we have,, play them,, its the best way for them to improve,,
and no i dont want a team full of kids,, but if camble is the same as shola at 17 v 30, what he lacks in experience he makes up for in his youthful exuberance,,
137 check the toastie // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:24 PM
Simpson stunts Taverniers growth, who IMO already offers more, and has immense potential.
Awaiting pelters from Simmo lovers who must watch him through really funny fast motion,increased ability rose tinted glasses.
138 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:24 PM
Check…Well balanced there mate. I like the way you let him have it and then pulled it back with that last line…oh wait.
Anita may well prove to be a better option. I missed the Villa game (that was when he played FB, right?), so can only base an opinion from what I’ve read (mainly on here so probably not a safe assumption).
139 tequilamag // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:26 PM
Check, and if he plays a blinder can we expect you to come on and give him so praise?
140 hotdog // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:27 PM
Ibiza – You kept that quiet you could have been training my puppy all this time! Ibizatoon – The Dog Whisperer
141 dave 1961 // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:29 PM
Ibizatoon
I’m not a hater of Williamson i just don’t think hes good enough for where i want to be. but he’s not crap as some say.
142 catchy in norway // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:29 PM
back to work for me
143 dave 1961 // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:30 PM
Oh how the mighty have fallen, High-profile football club chairman Peter Ridsdale has been disqualified from acting as a company director for seven and a half years.
144 tequilamag // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:31 PM
Catchy , so if Pardew hates Abeid so much why did he buy him in the first place?
145 catchy in norway // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:31 PM
dave 1961
agreed,,
at the mo we have 2 types at the club,, some great players,, and great servents,, well these players like willamson, perch, simpson shola obertan great servents, but will never make our club great
146 check the toastie // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:31 PM
Ibiza – Anita has played consistently for Ajax, the best footballing team in Holland, also very capable when they have played in CL, all of a sudden he isnt trusted in playing against Reading, that is a total joke, Bigi a 18 year old kid played for coventry 25 times above a international footballer with CL experience, oh Pardew talks some shit,
Reading are woeful and Pardew bottles it, unable to set the team up to have a go, unbelievable really, then comes out with shit like he thought the game would be a bit much for Anita, more bollocks.
Also, always like to be subjective regards Simpson as you know. Its funny but nobody ever comes up with any reason barring goalline clearances why he is so valuable to our team.
147 catchy in norway // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:34 PM
tequilamag
thats a stupid question,,
for 1 i never said he hates him
if you ask me , i think pardew is a very poor judge of player,,
148 tequilamag // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:35 PM
Check if by subjective you mean irrational hatred, then yeah your always consistent. Football is all a matter of opinions and in my opinion Simmo played some great games last season. Its not like he gets a load of help from HBA
149 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:36 PM
Catchy….I don’t really know what’s going on with Abeid, I have no inside info so pure speculation. He is a talented kid and it is a little surprising he isn’t more involved. From what I have seen, which is very little, he doesn’t seem to assert himself much, is almost a bit lazy. Very talented though it seems, perhaps that’s why he doesn’t appear to put much effort in and maybe that is Pardews problem. As I say, pure speculation.
I agree with Pardews timing of subs, usually that bit too late.
Pardew clearly favours an overall hard working committed team and I can’t question that, if we are to progress we must do so as a team. That isn’t to say we cant afford to have a go at teams a bit more and stop being so defensive. From what I know about Pardews previous roles, he seems to like passing and attacking football. He is on a long term contract and I believe is planning ahead and building for the future. Laying the ground word to build on. I get the impression this year isn’t about getting a trophy, he feels this year can be used for experience, prepping, etc. We have also had a lot of changes in players so far, so I guess he’s put importance of keeping tight, then if we can get a goal, we should get the points. Negative, but sometimes needed in a league competition. How many title winning teams have done so with ugly and negative football?
Small steps are needed imo.
As for Jonas, I do love him, but no longer as a winger. As we have a need for rotation he should get games in CM, where I think he is far better suited these days, however, he is not the best CM at the club, so isn’t a guaranteed starter anymore for me, which is tragic, as although not exciting, his work rate for the team is amazing and when times are tough, it’s needed.
150 mattyNUFC // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:36 PM
catchy @ 145
agree completely
151 catchy in norway // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:36 PM
check the toastie
thats all simpson is good at,,,
i mean it was shocking at the start of last season, both simson and obertan, playing down the right,, both shit at crossing, simpson mildly better, both passing to each other instead chucking the ball in the middle,,
152 tequilamag // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:37 PM
OK then I withdraw the hate comment but you do seem to make an assumption on favouritism by Pardew, Could it possibly be that Pards who sees the players every day is in a better position to judge than you?
153 1numBA9 // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:37 PM
my very first blog eva!
i don’t see the defense as an issue for the EUROPA fixture… here’s why and it’s simple: we have alot of versatile players in the squad, provided Simpson is back,
Harper
Williamson—Santon
Simpson(Tavernier) Guitierez(Fergie)
Anita Tiote(all 3 need gametime) Marvaux
Ober Papiss(goals) Sammy
subs: Elliott, Campbell, Vuckic, Tav, Fergie, Ba, Bigi(for tiote), and Perchy … this is good stuff
154 mattyNUFC // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:40 PM
catchy @ 151
don’t agree with that though. i don’t think simmo is worthless. i wanted him gone for a better RB as well, still do, but the facts and displays don’t lie….perch is crap at RB, anita being our current-best RB is worrying as i don’t think he deserves as much praise there as some have given him, and, as much as i hate to admit it for pride’s sake, we need him back.
again, i think he falls into that ‘great servant’ category, but, for what we have now, it’s either him or tavs and we all know pards will give the nod to simmo any day of the week if he’s fit
155 catchy in norway // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:42 PM
Ibizatoon – Back by popular demand
nor do i know the story,
just looking from the outside,,,
i would like to beleive he was an attack minded manager in the past,, but from what iv seen since he has been here,, he seem to want to hang onto a draw, or sneak a goal,, we have never looked like we will thrash anyone,,
playing defensive against the so called top 4 is one thing,, but come on,, it seems like every team we play we dont attack until they score, tit for tat,, with the players we have we should have murderd reading,
,,
156 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:42 PM
Hotdog…You get a lot of 2 legged dogs over here mate.
Check….I was only talking from what I have seen. I don’t watch Ajax, but am aware what they’re about, so it would figure Anita would be better, I just haven’t seen it.
As I have said previously, it’s not that Simpson excels in a particular aspect of the position (except those goal line clearances) , but overall he covers most of them fairly well, making him, imo, a better all round RB (Excluding Anita – as I haven’t seen him play there).
On playing Bigi ahead of Anita, you say Pardew is talking bollox, I don’t agree. Reading just came up from tha Championship, as did Bigi. Quite a physical league and Anita doesn’t come across as a strength player really, but may have misjudged him. It may have well been the wrong call, we lacked options going forward with two very defensive minded midfielders in Tiote and Bigi. We should have done better in the game, no disputing that. I would have thought though, even with the team that went out, should have done better really. No disrespect to Reading intended.
157 catchy in norway // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:45 PM
153 mattyNUFC
id be playing santon right back and ferg left back,,
marv hasnt been great, but i think he needs a run of games on the left, he can cross, which is something missing from the left,,
he can also swith with HBA, both being lefties
158 check the toastie // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:46 PM
tequilamag, thats the point really a good full back wouldnt consider Ben Arfa needs to help him out, good full backs make opposition wingers defend, anyone who plays against Simpson doesnt have to worry about anyone going past him, he can just double up on Benny and the threat is nearly snuffed out.
Dont say its irrational hatred, i have highlighted why i dont rate him as a footballer, nothing personel against the lad, by all accounts he is a nice guy, i commend him for that, however he is nowhere near good enough for a PL team that wants to play decent football and scale the heights of the PL.
As i have said before the proof is in the pudding that no PL teams have came in for him, even though he has 8 months left on his contract, Says it all really!!!
159 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:46 PM
Catchy….Maybe the pressure of a bigger team has gotten to him a bit or maybe he is just planning ahead and keeping things ticking for the meantime. It’s clear he wants different players in, maybe he’s not confident as he lets on with some of the current personnel and doesn’t feel he can implement his play with them in the team. Not Willo bashing, but by playing an open attacking game, our CB’s are going to be needing to be alert at all times. I ask, how confident would you be leaving Willo that exposed? Maybe he’s having to play this tactic to keep us going whilst changes are being made.
Or perhaps I’m just a softy and can’t see reality. No confirmation of that required
160 dave 1961 // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:47 PM
Ibizatoon
3 defensive midfielders when you add spider man.
161 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:48 PM
Catchy @156….Sounds like a good shout. Marv needs some game time as he’s lacking something at the minute.
162 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:50 PM
dave….Thinking about it, don’t we play 11 defensive midfielders?
163 tequilamag // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:50 PM
The point I was making re help from HBA would be probably clearer if we contrast the work Jonas does to help Santon and Enrique before him. Jonas tracks back and that is not HBA strength. Not a criticism of HBA its just not his game. The point I am making is Simmo or anybody who plays RB for us has a much harder job to do.
Like I say though if Simmo plays a blinder will we hear any praise from you?
164 check the toastie // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:53 PM
I remember last year when i was over the moon Ashley decided to go against his policy of not signing over 29/30 year old players,
What we have got out of Collo and Jonas this year almost makes Ashley out to be an absolute genius, if Jonas doesnt improve and Collo doesnt start playing games again it could be the last time we ever see anybody come into the club or sign a contract after they are 27/28 year old. (Mackem slayer excluded of course)
165 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:56 PM
Was thinking earlier would anyone like to see obertan in a different role vs bordeux? Was thinking if fergie on the left sammy in the right and obertan in SS/CAM role behind shola with anita and vuckic/gos behind him?
Good idea or plain suicide???
166 jesperfuglsang // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:56 PM
Toonboy/Cupid…RP is ‘ Received Pronunciation’ and it is the instantly recognisable accent often described as ‘typically British’ or ‘Oxford English’.
167 check the toastie // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:57 PM
tequila, the fact that Jonas is too busy helping Santon out is one of the main reasons why we cant link up with our lethal front 2, also Benny is told to help the RB out all the time so he picks the all up too deep most of the time and thus we end up camped out in our own half in pretty much every away game.
Simpson is average, however if he ever has a 7 out of 10 game i will indeed compliment him, i imagine it will be a long wait however.
168 cupiddstunt // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:58 PM
Tequilamag @ # 162
I think your question has been answered
169 tequilamag // Oct 3, 2012 at 3:59 PM
Thanks Check, all I want is that keep you an open mind. You may be pleasently surprised.
170 tequilamag // Oct 3, 2012 at 4:01 PM
Cuoid took a while but we got there.
171 Ketsbaia9 // Oct 3, 2012 at 4:04 PM
Haha, Ameobi’s a poor player, so that’s why Campbell’s already on his level.
Williamson’s impressed me this season. He’s had one average game in 8.
172 cupiddstunt // Oct 3, 2012 at 4:06 PM
Jesperfuglsang @ # 165
Thanks for that no matter how I try to dredge through my memory I honestly can say that is not part of it.
My excuse is it‘s heading on 50 years since leaving school so a lot has had to be dumped to make way for new memories along the way, or this ideology came about since I left.
Saying that I do not know what Toonboys excuse is.
173 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 3, 2012 at 4:07 PM
http://m.skysports.com/article/football//8135768
Glad to see other clubs calling for UEFA to back up there threats!
174 catchy in norway // Oct 3, 2012 at 4:10 PM
164 toonarmydownsouth
hmmmm,,
i would not let obertan near a ball, never mind a pitch
175 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 3, 2012 at 4:14 PM
Catchy
Im not a big fan of his but lets be honest its almost a garuntee that he’s gonna start so would you rather him a SS role where he might actually use his pace playing off shola and hopefully get in good spaces in the box or out on the wing watching him painfully attempting to cross for 90 mins????
176 Toonboy_84 // Oct 3, 2012 at 4:17 PM
Neither do I Cupid. I only left school 12 years ago. Never heard that one tbf though.
177 check the toastie // Oct 3, 2012 at 4:18 PM
Gotta say dont agree on Obertan, think the lad still has something to offer, think he could be effective as a withdraw striker, however he was given a chance at Arsenal last year in that position and he was heartless, very disappointing that was.
He needs to grow some balls and start offering for the ball more and believing in his ability, he has some but currently doesnt seem to want to use it.
178 Toonboy_84 // Oct 3, 2012 at 4:18 PM
Like my original post says. Maybe I’m just being thick
179 mattyNUFC // Oct 3, 2012 at 4:20 PM
catchy
don’t like fergie at LB, personally
and, as big a proponent of marvs as i have been, on form i think fergie deserves the lw/lm spot ahead of both jonas (obvious) and marvs atm
marvs will come good i feel, but he needs to have a run of good displays in the many chances he is being given outside of the league
180 mattyNUFC // Oct 3, 2012 at 4:21 PM
…oh, and it’s a no brainer fergie’s ahead of obertan too, who has done nothing to warrant even a spot on the bench compared to the likes of tav, marvs, abeid, sammy and fergie, to name a few who should all be there deservedly
181 check the toastie // Oct 3, 2012 at 4:23 PM
My excitement at the start of the season on how we were going to improve and play some good football, has currently been dampened by Pardews unwillingness to take the brakes off, he is grinding me down with his insepid brand of football.
Cant he remember Stoke at home last year when he freed Cabaye and everything was rosy……Oh Pardew………what are you thinking, you anti footballing dinosaur………..
Please change Pardew, please change…………..:(
182 ppb // Oct 3, 2012 at 4:24 PM
i would like to see obertan behind shola. running on to a headed ball. his pace is brilliant he’s getting past men. its just crossing letting him down
183 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 3, 2012 at 4:24 PM
Check so was that a yes you’d like to see him have another crack as SS or no leave him on the wing? Personally thought he was shocking vs manure he had the beating of that lad all game but just didnt seemed bothered so maybe a change if position might give him a bit of a challenge and a kick up the arse!
Make or break season for the lad??
184 cupiddstunt // Oct 3, 2012 at 4:25 PM
Toonboy_84 @ # 177
It’s not that at all bud it’s just proof once again that people that take on a second or more languages tend to put more into that learning.
Whereas folks like you and I who have English as our first ( my only ashamed to say) language learn so much by osmosis and as a result hold it with less value so use less effort on it.
That’s my poor excuse and I ‘m sticking to it.
185 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 3, 2012 at 4:28 PM
Ppb
Exactly mate! He could be lethal plus he’s gonna wanna play a blinder against borduex hopefully he’ll be pumped up
Plus really want to see sammy back so would love him n fergie to both start on opposite wings
Matty
Tbh marvs done about as much as obertan this season
186 ppb // Oct 3, 2012 at 4:28 PM
@check problem for me is injuries and fitness. we’ve missed cabaye and when he has played he looked off the pace. Taylor needs to get back into form. Colo needs to be fit.
187 Toonboy_84 // Oct 3, 2012 at 4:31 PM
Very well thought out Cupid. English is my first and only language. But yer at leest I am good at spelin it and stuf
188 ppb // Oct 3, 2012 at 4:33 PM
@tads he’s looking trickier with his feet now and gets past men. puts some nifty little passes through defenders.
don’t get me wrong he’s got a long way to go but i see improvement
189 cupiddstunt // Oct 3, 2012 at 4:33 PM
190 Toonboy_84 // Oct 3, 2012 at 4:37 PM
I seem to haven spoken more about language and accents on here today than footy.
So to counter……..
Shola is king, I’m going to cut myself because Simmo is fit and Willow for England.
Aaaahhh that feels better!
191 catchy in norway // Oct 3, 2012 at 4:50 PM
just for info, i never ignore ppl,, or chose not to reply,,
i live 65 miles away from my job,, and drive, 1h45 each way, and work 8 hours, so i dont have a lot of time to get on here,,
i try to never miss a match, but do miss a few, front row and vipbox,, are amazing sites,
make no mistake though, im black and white through and through, to the point i worked as a stewad around the time tino scored his hatrick v barca, it wasnt for the money,, just to get in and watch,,,,,
been on this site from the very begining, it was missed when he closed it down, but glad he came back,
i dont hate anyone on this site, as i believe we all have our views on our team, and i do like the banter,
time to drive home
pissing down outside too
192 catchy in norway // Oct 3, 2012 at 4:53 PM
1 last point,,
i prefer to watch football, than watch tables,,
tables might say your doing great,, but they carnt tell you how they played,,
i think some ppl should try that,,, jjust saying,,,, lmao
193 Mister Tuff // Oct 3, 2012 at 4:59 PM
Toonarmy @#164 & 174
I can suggest another position for Obertan – physios’ bag carrier.
Now getting back to what will probably happen -I will agree with you that he will start against Bordeaux. If he cannot get fired up for a game against one of his old clubs he never will. We hear a lot about him lacking confidence -yet in a recent interview he appears to exude confidence reference his input so far this season. Unless he’s trying to bolster his own confidence he’s living on another planet. I will however be prepared to eat humble pie after the game.
194 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 3, 2012 at 5:23 PM
http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2012/10/03/gabriel-obertan-is-out-to-make-more-than-one-point-61634-31953691/
Mister tuff
That one?
Must admit when i first read it i thought yeah your having a laugh gabby!!
He needs to get fired up tomos if he starts because if he cant get fired up against his old club nothing will!!!
But as ppb said he has started to show some quick feet and is beating the full back but the lad just cant cross to save his life!
195 ppb // Oct 3, 2012 at 5:27 PM
lets see obertan f****g nail it. get back to the form he was in that caught man u’s eye
196 Tsunki // Oct 3, 2012 at 5:41 PM
Mister Tuff – I wont boil the custard up just yet. I would like Obertan to step up but I’ve been waiting 2 seasons now and he’s not getting any younger or any more promising.
On Jonas – why on earth would he suddenly stop in his tracks and be a completely ineffective winger, and be fit only to run around the back quarter in circles defending and covering? I suspect its more that he has been tactically reassigned than lost pace or ability. OK he never had a blistering cross and didnt score hatsful of goals but I do miss some of the skills he had in going past players that earned him a song. Poor Spidey
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