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Newcastle vs Bordeaux – Match Preview

12:35 pm, Thursday, October 4th, 2012 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 175 Comments

We understand why Alan Pardew plays a second eleven in the Europa league games this season, because our squad is still far too small, and top players cannot play two games a week and all of that good stuff, but we are jeopardizing our chances of qualifying from the group stages of the competition – that’s a concern.

The good news is that both Yohan Cabaye and Danny Simpson will be in the side tonight, and there’s quite some competition going on between the fringe players and the youngsters at the club,  for a starting position tonight.

We expect Rob Elliot to get his very first game at St. James’ Park, after two good performances  in the last couple of weeks, and we think James Tavernier and Haris Vuckic are also likely to start the important game tonight.

And after Shane Ferguson’s’ excellent two sub appearances in the last two games, he should get a start out on the left wing tonight.

Here’s the side we think Alan could put out tonight:

Elliot
Simpson Williamson Perch Tavernier
Obertan Cabaye Anita Ferguson
Aleobi (Sh) Vuckic
Subs: Harper Bigirimana Marveaux Ameobi (Sa) Gosling Cisse

Pardew could probably find a starting position somewhere for Dan Gosling, who’s now looking a decent player at the club, although he missed a couple of good chances at Old Trafford last Wednesday night.

Hatem Ben Arfa is now available to play in Europe, having served a three-game European ban, and he may even be on the bench tonight, although we think Alan Pardew will give opportunities to other fringe players against Bordeaux.

But we do expect Papiss Cisse to possibly be on the bench, and to make an appearance in the second half, as he needs to score some goals, and tonight’s a decent opportunity for the Senegal man to get a goal, as he did last week at Old Trafford.

This is Newcastle’s 124th game in European competition and we’ve won 70 and lost only 29, and the club has a good record in Europe – and in fact Newcastle are currently on a 19-game unbeaten run at home in European games, with our last defeat on Tyneside being against Monaco way back in 1997.

Let’s hope that record is not broken tonight.

We really do need the win tonight, and a draw will not really be good enough and that would leave Bordeaux still two points clear of Newcastle at the top of group D.

If we are to progress in the Europa League and out of the group stage, then we probably need the win tonight.

What do you think?

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175 responses so far ↓

  • 1 check the toastie // Oct 4, 2012 at 12:38 PM

    Would swap Vuckic for Sammi, he has had a few chances now and has looked pretty ineffective, Shola and Sammi for me, also would play Tav RB, Fergy LB and Marveaux LW, no Simmo for me, just come back from injury and is likely to be even worse than usual in his hesitant style.

  • 2 Jail for Ashley // Oct 4, 2012 at 12:38 PM

    Being used as a space hopper while Derek is used as a pogo stick by kids from Elswick is too good for Ashley.

  • 3 Jail for Ashley // Oct 4, 2012 at 12:41 PM

    Doh,Check man.

  • 4 toonLYF // Oct 4, 2012 at 12:48 PM

    Very pleased Cabaye is starting tonight, I think in our other Europa league games we’ve played, our problem has been in the centre of the pitch, where we have lacked the composure and ability to control a game due to Gosling spending 70-80 minutes of the games out of position, and Bigirimana not being that style of midfielder (the pacemaker/playmaker). However, with Cabaye in the centre I expect him to ‘pull the strings’ against a team he is very familiar with. Was gonna just watch on the TV tonight but with dreamboat starting and potentially Simmo too, 15 quid is hard to resist. HWTL.

  • 5 Tsunki // Oct 4, 2012 at 12:51 PM

    I dread the possibilty that pards underestimates bordeaux and we lose. If we do please don’t tell kets, the neutron bomb of blogging. It’ll be willo/simmo lost us the cup etc.

  • 6 dave 1961 // Oct 4, 2012 at 12:54 PM

    the above team has one goal in it, what we after a 0-0 draw if that’s the case we need to duct tape Williamson’s arms to his side’s.

  • 7 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 4, 2012 at 1:05 PM

    http://www.skysports.com/opinion/story/0,25212,18932_8137807,00.html

  • 8 Rotonda heights // Oct 4, 2012 at 1:10 PM

    Not defending the Simmo / Willo bashers but it’s a bit disappointing when we have to play them when we don’t have better alternatives as a premiership club.
    Really hope January will rectify that

    If we play Ed’s suggested team Vuksic will disappear in the wrong position again. Gosling is not a good player Ed. Abeid is way more effective, but Pards has a blind spot with promoting Gosling and blanking Abeid.

    Cisse and Ba in a 442 will never work and Cabaye is a 442 won”t work. These are all known to be true beyond all reasonable doubt.

    Pards obviously did well last season and I don’t think it was a case of the players doing well in spite of him, but well maybe a little. Pards says he learns from his mistakes but it seems some were built to last.

  • 9 NottsGeordie // Oct 4, 2012 at 1:22 PM

    Seriously Ed? How is this game must-win?

    If we draw tonight, we’re 2 points off the lead, with 4 games left to play. You’re saying a 2 point lead would be impossible to close, with 4 remaining game…? This blog has become a joke.

  • 10 NUFC_LEAZES END // Oct 4, 2012 at 1:27 PM

    My team tonight would be :

    ………………………Elliot……………………….
    Simmo…….willo……..perchinio… Santon
    HBA……………….bigrimana ………….fergie
    ……………………….cabaye…………………….
    ………………shola…………Ba…………………

  • 11 NUFC_LEAZES END // Oct 4, 2012 at 1:29 PM

    @nottsgeordie

    I agree with ed, we must win the home games, and at least get a point from the away ones

  • 12 geordie157 // Oct 4, 2012 at 1:31 PM

    Think Campbell could be on the bench, Cisse might start.

  • 13 tequilamag // Oct 4, 2012 at 1:31 PM

    Yeah Ed, you spend all this time posting articles and providing a forum for all us people who CBA to make our own blogs and you still can`t make everyone happy.
    And you sometimes make little mistakes that people can jump on.
    Sort it out Ed

  • 14 totsy // Oct 4, 2012 at 1:37 PM

    Amalfitano to start, haven’t seen him have a solid it game yet tbh but wouldn’t mind seeing him against a french team.

  • 15 tarie4 // Oct 4, 2012 at 1:37 PM

    Rotonda heights

    “Cabaye is a 442 won”t work. These are all known to be true beyond all reasonable doubt.”

    I disagree, cabaye played some great games for us in a 442 and in a 433. Last season, man united Aston villa to mention a few. against Everton he was completing lost but when we switched to 442, he came alive and produced two worldly passes in a space of two mins.

    Have U seen abied play?? I saw him at the man U 21’s game last week and he wasn’t great. Inman was better.
    His work rate was non existent, whereas gosling work rate is top notch. Every game he has played this season for the toon, he has been up and down that pitch getting into good areas.
    I would play gosling over abied everyday of the week, until he improves his workrate.. Coz at the moment its really really poor, hence he is not being selected.

    “If we play Ed’s suggested team Vuksic will disappear in the wrong position again”
    I disagree again, vucik has been getting into fantastic positions, as every game so far he had 2-3 shots at goal, or good goal scoring opportunities.
    However the whole team as a whole has been poor so far. Because we do not play that much in the oppositions final 3rd. This is where vucik is most useful. We play the ball between the defence and the midfield and back again and knock it forward.

  • 16 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 4, 2012 at 1:37 PM

    Must win in theory, mathematically, not at this point. It’s normally a fair assumption that home games are must wins, but reality is we could draw some and win away games instead. Not really worth pulling up imo and I thought I was pedantic….queue “You are pedantic comments”.

  • 17 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 4, 2012 at 1:40 PM

    Tarie…I was discussing Abeid with someone yesterday and said I assume it’s more to do with his workrate than ability. Pardew does not reward talent, but more so hard work and desire to do well.

  • 18 tarie4 // Oct 4, 2012 at 1:50 PM

    Ibizatoon – Back by popular demand // Oct 4, 2012 at 1:40 PM

    That’s 100% correct, and so it shud be. You just have to look at barca, its not their ability that makes them that good, it their work rate, their constant pressing etc. Look at Dortmund yday, macini said after the game, that is not enough to pass and move etc, but we (man city) must show desire and workrate in order to win.

  • 19 Mister Tuff // Oct 4, 2012 at 1:59 PM

    Repost -apologies.
    I’ve checked out a couple of Bordeaux videos and they certainly look a very good outfit. They are undoubtedly a side playing well at the moment. On paper we have “better” players –however there is definitely a potential for coming unstuck tonight –dependent on the strength of what team Pardew selects (bearing in mind the game on Sunday). If we get a bad result, all may not be lost –this is a group stage match and all we need to do is finish higher than Bruges and Maritimo in order to get through to the next round –which we should be able to do –then the “Champions League” sides join in the next round –some very good teams.
    As for the Cabaye incident – was it a bid or an enquiry –Cabaye says one thing and Pardew says another –they both surely cannot be right (right meaning truthful in this context). Having the press officer blocking attempts to find out more from Cabaye does fuel the suspicion that something did happen and if that is the case Newcastles’ attempts to deny it look very amateurish. Pardew should not have dragged Cabaye along to the press conference –it seems obvious what the journalists would want to ask Cabaye. I think it puts in doubt what Pardew states in the future. Things can have a tendency to come back and bite you.

  • 20 toonLYF // Oct 4, 2012 at 2:00 PM

    i also agree with Ed. I have grown up with the belief we should win EVERY game at St James Park no matter who we’re playing. It’s the way my Granda brought me up as a NUFC fan, and that mentality will never change. It’s not an unreasonable belief either imo.

  • 21 tequilamag // Oct 4, 2012 at 2:02 PM

    Maybe Ed was referring to the point that if we lose a match his blog goes into meltdown.

  • 22 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 4, 2012 at 2:09 PM

    Tarie….Are you sure it’s not just because Pardew is clueless and has his favourites? 😉

    We saw it last season with Benny. Pardew eased him in to things. If he didn’t show enough commitment, he was benched. Overall it worked well. I know some peoples opinion is that he should play regardless, however, I would argue we now have a more complete player in Benny and it hasn’t taken any spark out of his game either. The one negative is that perhaps he picks the ball up to deep, making his job harder to get in to the oppositions final third.

  • 23 tarie4 // Oct 4, 2012 at 2:11 PM

    19Mister Tuff

    I think spurs contacted cabayes agent with an offer, like wages etc, before they actually put a bid etc. (backhanded tactics)
    Pards did.allude to this after the transfer window had closed, that agents were trying to fix their players with new clubs etc.

    I guess thats why the two differing topics. And for the press officer thing, dnt look to much into it. We were meant to be discussing the game tomorrow (today) and someone wants to.talk about cabaye and spurs. I’m sure most managers and press officers would hush those questions.

  • 24 JAMSHA // Oct 4, 2012 at 2:12 PM

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  • 25 Jonny // Oct 4, 2012 at 2:13 PM

    My Team:
    ——————–Elliot———————-

    Simpson—-Perch——Williamson–Tav

    ————-Anita——-Bigi—————

    Obertan———-Cabaye————-Marv

    ———————Shola——————-

    Pards Team:
    ——————–Elliot———————-

    Simpson—-Perch——Williamson–Tav

    Obertan—-Gosling—-Cabaye—–Fergie

    ————–Shola——Vuckic————

  • 26 Rotonda heights // Oct 4, 2012 at 2:14 PM

    Tarie

    The trouble is we win the ball only to give it back again with hopeful hoofs. Barca press, win and retain the ball
    in their 433 style.

    We have the players to play 433 extremely effectively as has been proved. Manu home and Stoke away apart 442 always looks a struggle for us. The bulk of cabaye’s assists for Cisse was when we played 433.

    Gosling may run around a bit, but I think I could manage that. He doesn’t create or score and I think most people see this. Yes we like seeing players work hard but it’s not all perspiration, you ‘ve got to have a bit of inspiration as well. Gosling doesn’t.

  • 27 tarie4 // Oct 4, 2012 at 2:20 PM

    Ibizatoon – Back by popular demand // Oct 4, 2012 at 2:09 PM

    I have seen that too, Benny picks the ball up way way to.deep, but I assume its coz tiote hasn’t been playing and cabaye has been off form. Otherwise he wudnt come to deep, coz he will be getting good clean ball into his feet in the oppositions half. However if he wants to play through the middle he better get used to picking up that ball in deep in our own half.

    what’s ur view on that, shud he play on top of the midfield in a ozil, kagawa position or shud hr stay out wide?

  • 28 cupiddstunt // Oct 4, 2012 at 2:21 PM

    Mister Tuff @# 19

    Sorry disagree about the “they both surely cannot be right (right meaning truthful in this context”) they can both be saying what they both think is the truth so being truthful, and yet both tell different stories.

    The fact that you appear to be reading between the lines and reading so much into the story and its potential difference of opinion I think shows this.

    Let’s just say spuds made a tentative enquiry which AP sees as just that, Cabaye finds out about it and as English is his second (and only just learning it) language he interprets it as a bid.

    So they could both be telling a different story and both being honest.

    Bet you spend time on conspiracy theory sites as well, you are looking so far between the lines you are reading the weave of the paper and that rarely makes sense either. 😉

  • 29 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 4, 2012 at 2:26 PM

    Tarie…..It’s not as if we haven’t seen Benny take it from our own half, past their whole team and put it away. He should just do that every time…simple.

    Good catch on the fact Tiote has been missing and Cabaye ins’t at his best. All players need to be able to adapt their normal style to accommodate what the team is missing. Once we see players returning from injury and regaining form, we should start to see more of those brilliant moves from last season.

    As to which side he should play, obviously comes down to formations etc. I’ve never seen him excel in an CAM role before, although you would be inclined to think he should be able to do really well from there. I think with the players we have, we should be rotating positions during games. Stops things becoming so predictable. So basically, no straight answer, bet you’re glad you asked.

  • 30 Carryingcoals // Oct 4, 2012 at 2:29 PM

    Just finished my preview for tonight. Just been saying to a couple of people, despite Pardew calling for more from us, I still think we’ll keep it tight against a dangerous Bordeaux side.

    Expecting another poor first half from us but salvaging something int he second half. http://www.carryingcoals.com/?p=239

    Can’t wait for tonight’s game, european nights are back! Enjoy the game lads.

    – Also looks like Michael Chopra is going to get done, his whole family live close to me in Gosforth and apparently he blew almost all of his money through a gambling problem. News today that he’s associated with corruption…. Shame too because I liked him at the toon, not good enough but a trier nonetheless.

  • 31 Carryingcoals // Oct 4, 2012 at 2:31 PM

    And in regards to the whole Cabaye/Spurs thing it seems a lot of people – fans and media – are blowing it out of proportion, a lot like the Demba Ba thing. It’s this weeks speculation. Whether an offer came in or not he’s still a Newcastle player and I’d be shocked to see him leave for Spurs!! Wouldn’t happen, not important.

  • 32 tarie4 // Oct 4, 2012 at 2:32 PM

    Rotonda heights //

    “Gosling may run around a bit, but I think I could manage that. He doesn’t create or score and I think most people see this”

    this is why U sit at home and watch games while AP manages them. Pple will only notice a youngster if he creates or scores or puts in a goal saving tackle. Against maritimo if the ball he hit crept in, pple would sing his praises, against man U he got into good positions but his finishing wasn’t great. He has room to improve yes, but right now he is ahead of .abied, and rightly so imo. Have U seen abied play?? A full 90 mins??

    “We have the players to play 433 extremely effectively as has been proved. Manu home and Stoke away apart 442 always looks a struggle for us. The bulk of cabaye’s assists for Cisse was when we played 433.”

    We played poorly against qpr, fulham and got beat by Brighton in the FA cup.
    Against Bolton we were poor, and lucky to have been at 0-0 right before some individual brilliance put us ahead. Dare I mention Wigan away??

    What I am saying is that 433 is not as great as U seem to think it is, just like 442 we did look great, but also really poor. pple wanted that and against Everton we where ripped apart, went to 442 and we could have won. And looked much much better.

  • 33 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 4, 2012 at 2:39 PM

    Carrying…Another good read. Well done. It will be interesting to see who gets the starts tonight. I see Pardew as a take the risk earlier and change if needed, rather than starting strong and trying to put the game beyond doubt. So I expect a mainly fringe / youth side, with 2 or 3 experienced heads in there to try and make the difference.

    Overall the younger players keep pretty solid, but lack that little spark to get a goal. Having Cabaye (assuming he’s playing nearer his capabilities) should help with this.

    On Gosling….He has had a few close shots and does seem to get in to the right areas. His finishing isn’t wonderful, but not a million miles off either. I can see him almost being a Nolan type tbh, but isn’t there yet.

  • 34 tarie4 // Oct 4, 2012 at 2:41 PM

    Ibizatoon – Back by popular demand // Oct 4, 2012 at 2:26 PM

    Haha.very diplomatic response there. Alan Pardew is that u?? 😉
    yes u are very right, but I think our team really suffers when tiote is not there, just like yaya toure for city and essien for Chelsea a few seasons back. I think he sets the platform for cabaye and Benny to really work their magic.
    His passing is getting better (what a ball to Ba say the weekend)
    Cabaye always has his best games for us when tiote is playing.
    Would love to see Anita along side tiote, just to see what his made of.

  • 35 Carryingcoals // Oct 4, 2012 at 2:42 PM

    Cheers Ibiza, I’m not expecting a win tonight and I think we’ll be largely on the back foot. Hopefully we come out and look really good, would make a great night.

    re Gosling: He gets slated on here but just needs time. Obviously looked really good at Everton and has come back from that horrific injury. Way too soon to write him off. There’s a lot of talk about Villa bidding for him but I can see him staying with us. A goal and consecutive starts could really spur him on, just has to take his chances.

  • 36 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 4, 2012 at 2:46 PM

    Tarie…..If I was Alan Pardew I would have by now given up on this terrible and outdated 4-4-2 😉

    It’s definitely based on theory, rather than in practice, but I can’t help but feel the following formation (Defense and GK omitted before people start saying 11 players may be better) could be devastating.

    ——–Tiote——-Anita———-

    ————–Cabaye————-

    –Arfa——Ba/Cisse—-Marv/Ba/Fergie

    But then again, I do play a considerable amount of Fifa :)

  • 37 Carryingcoals // Oct 4, 2012 at 2:47 PM

    tarie4

    As the season goes on I think we’ll be looking to play a midfield three of Cabaye, Tiote and Anita. Its got great potential and could see Cabaye flourish.

  • 38 steveno7 // Oct 4, 2012 at 2:49 PM

    Ibiza .
    So who demanded u come back ?probably urself and thats it .ha ha
    and on tonight i would not entertain vukic im really not sure about him at all.
    Will be a hard fought game tonight but do think we will win.
    Ferguson deserves a start .if so we may actually have some decent balls put in the box.

  • 39 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 4, 2012 at 2:49 PM

    Carrying…Always expect a win mate :) Otherwise you miss out on that gutting feeling of anger and hatred. Why would you deprive yourself?

    If we turn up, then we can win. I’m also aware that we will likely face an in form team who are hard to breakdown. Just hoping for a good game of football.

    I think you’re spot on with Gosling. He makes mistakes, sure. But he is far from terrible. We’re only in October, still plenty of games for everyone, the cream will always rise to the top in the end.

  • 40 steveno7 // Oct 4, 2012 at 2:50 PM

    Another thing cant believe isnt in the u21squad

  • 41 Carryingcoals // Oct 4, 2012 at 2:50 PM

    Ibiza

    I agree.

    However, Cisse and Ba are two of our most high profile players. Pardew has got such a dilemma.

    What you’ve proposed is what I think, three man central mid and then Arfa and a quality winger (possibly fergie)either side of Ba/Cisse. That would be best for the team. Currently we’d have to put Ba in the middle.

    Now do we
    1. drop cisse
    2. try him on the left like we did Ba
    3. rotate
    4. Ba reverts to the left

    Its really difficult. Pardew cant keep everyone happy. We need a solution though. Its harder to say what our best 11 is this season whereas last it was much more obvious.

  • 42 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 4, 2012 at 2:53 PM

    Steveno…..Don’t deny you started the bring back Ibizatoon petition. I know the truth. I never actually left, wouldn’t be stupid enough to expect to be wanted back :) It was more to do with many (I think maybe 2) requests to drop my former CODARM name.

    Anyway, back to football. Vuckic has looked far from impressive this season, I know what you mean. Ferguson has definitely earned a start. Let’s see if he can get more of those crosses in.

  • 43 monasnyr99 // Oct 4, 2012 at 2:53 PM

    We need to play a strong team tonight if we want any kind of result, Bordeaux are a very good team. Hopefully that means Vuckic doesn’t get anywhere near the team, this lad just isn’t good enough. Technically decent but is slower than Heskey.

  • 44 tarie4 // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:00 PM

    Ibizatoon – &Carryingcoals

    I am pretty sure if we get out of the group, and into the next round, the Europa cup becomes abit more errrmmm appealing, so U cud use Ba on a Thurs against a Ajax for example and Cisse on a sat against westbrom. I don’t believe one of them will be too upset with that. At the moment its against maritimo, so its not that glamorous. So a 433 with either of them.leading the line and the other on the bench wud be fine.

  • 45 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:01 PM

    Carrying…If Pardew can the two of them firing on all cylinders, then he’d be mad not to play them both, it’s just to date, I haven’t seen it. Both have played ok and some take it too far with the “they can’t play together” stuff. If Cisse had put away some of his close chances (and there have been a few), both would have some goals and you would have to start arguing they can play together. The chemistry doesn’t really seem to be there though.

    Definitely a tough call for Pardew.

    Maybe another formation to play with is:

    ——–Tiote——Anita———–

    —-HBA————-Cabaye——

    ————Ba—–Cisse———–

    Should be able to interchange things from that point (I’m showing my over usage of Fifa again, aren’t I?).

    As to Ba on the left. I think he played quite well there, just obviously missed getting goals. However, he seems dead against playing there and whilst I am of the thinking the manager calls the shots, not the players, it is kind of pointless making players unhappy as it’s likely they just wont perform. Ba is our most in form striker, so I can see trying to keep him at his best.

    With all this aggravation, I wonder how Pardew gets out of bed in the morning. Must be something about getting to chat to Derek on a daily basis.

  • 46 Nufc-83 // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:02 PM

    As been said i will get on the pitch and run and give more effort than Golsing if that’s all the fans want pay me 20k a week and i will be the fan favourite. I would admit that i would rather somebody who tries hard over someone with quality but is not interested and if thats the case with abied Gosling does deserve to be ahead of him However we should expect players who are playing for a top 6 prem side to be hard-working and have quality. Gosling severely lacks in the quality department. If abied is not interested get rid. Gosling cant even do the basics well so get rid. Bigi looks promising, Fergy looks promising and sammy looks good. These are the three young players that so far have shown hardwork and a good level of quality. Tavs has still got a way to go to convince me he has the quality. As for simpson we are in dire straights when i am wanting that lad to come back quickly christ!!

    Sorry for the unstructured post just wanted to throw a load of stuff out there lol.

  • 47 steveno7 // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:03 PM

    Ha ha a man with a sense of humour .
    Vukic really needs to work on his positioning well basically his overall game.
    I would sooner give t young ginger firecracker a go hel be hungry and have no fear.
    He would terrify defenses.as pards keeps sayin “if your good enough your old enough”.
    Whats ur opinion on bigi for u21s and st for england full squad i mean cmon ryan shawcross .thats @the legand that is ibiza

  • 48 catchy in norway // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:06 PM

    the onee player who should get no where near the team bus, is ,,,, wait for it,, obertan,,, omg why do you all insist on picking him?

    is he give you all BJ’S like pardew

  • 49 Nufc-83 // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:10 PM

    i would have RS over ST any day of the week. Both very similar in that their heart is probably their biggest asset however RS positioning is much better than taylors and he is also less injury prone. Both similar ability when in possession.

    The taylor who played the first 12 games (was it?) last season before he got injured was the best taylor has ever been and would get into the England team easily if he could recapture that level but only seen that for 12 games in his whole career.

  • 50 Carryingcoals // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:10 PM

    tarie4

    I know what you’re saying, good point.

    Ibiza

    I think it would be crazy to move Ba from CF at present. What I would say is when he is up top with Cisse, they hardly even pass to eachother! Its crazy, I’m bemused by it. Cisse has missed some chances yeah that’s for sure (the penalty too) but regardless – as you say – the chemistry isn’t there.

    Maybe, like a lot of things, it’s just going to take time.

  • 51 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:12 PM

    Steveno…Thank god for your last comment there, based on the sense of humour remark I assumed you were talking to someone else.

    Adam Campbell seems to show no fear, but I’ve not met or worked with him, so will have to put trust in the management as to how ready he is to be thrown in there. From a fans view, he seems a good choice and I would be inclined to give him a start at some point soon.

    Bigi is really impressing me so far. What a buy. I wouldn’t hesitate calling him up for the under 21 England squad. If he keeps up his current progress then it surely has to happen. As for Steven Taylor, I have always liked him and felt he deserves a call up, might be the toon specs making me think that though. I believe the reason he hasn’t is purely down to his injury record, what’s the point in calling him up if they don’t have confidence he’ll be around? He really needs to keep fit this season to become a contender imo. Shawcross on the other hand, I simply don’t get, but don’t watch him much so maybe have missed something.

  • 52 steveno7 // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:13 PM

    Sorry nufc i dont agree with that .i rate taylor higher that RS.

  • 53 Mister Tuff // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:13 PM

    Cupid @#28.
    I suppose things can be lost in translation. Whilst I’ve no doubt clubs and agents do not all follow the rules about approaching players, I still think it is probably best kept within the dressing room. Perhaps Cabaye should have been more guarded about what he said in the documentary, which appeared to be quite detailed, enquiry or bid from Spuds, who he was to replace ie Modric. Well I suppose your example may have merit, oops Pardew denied anything occurred. Reasonable anti-conspiracy theory blown straight out the water! ddddduuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhh. All I’m saying is that it appears, well at least to me, and probably a load of journalists that something occurred -and that the management have not been professional in seeing off this story. Whether what happened or did not happen is at all relevant in the grand scheme of things is another matter.
    For your information I’ve never been on a conspiracy site in my life, why spoil your post with a silly unfounded comment.

  • 54 Nufc-83 // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:14 PM

    Catchy becasue you can tell Obertan has the ability and even if you cant see it he still beats his man and gets the ball into dangerous areas when he plays. He isnt the type of player who will pick people out in the box and so we need people in goalscoring positions in the box to capatilise on his service but lately we have had one player for him to pick out in the box who has been tighly marked and he just cant do that yet. He is like lennon used to be before he started to get his head up and find people in the box.

  • 55 tarie4 // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:14 PM

    Nufc-83 //

    “As been said i will get on the pitch and run and give more effort than Golsing if that’s all the fans want pay me 20k a week and i will be the fan favourite. ”

    Yes, but gosling also get into good positions in the oppositions half, and closes down players well.

    And what are these basics U are talking about that he can’t do??

    And we are not a top 6 side yet… Major emphasis on YET. that was why are target was top 10 last season. We are aspiring to be one. But we are not. That is why players like gosling, are still very important cogs in the team.

    Keep ur feet firmly on the ground and don’t get ahead of urself.

  • 56 Carryingcoals // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:14 PM

    catchy

    I think it’s more of a case that with Ben Arfa being preserved for the Premier League games, Obertan is certain to take up the role on the right hand side – it’s a given Pardew will select him, that’s why when we try and guess the team he’s always there.

    I think a lot of people seem to have ideas about Sammy Ameobi, Abeid, Remi Streete now apparently and think they can effortless slot in to our side. These players have hardly featured. To say they’ll do a better job than those already there, in my opinion, is without justification.

    I agree Obertan is a nightmare to watch and repeats his mistakes but to have this presumption that others can come in and automatically better him is a guess basically.

    As for having Streete over Steven Taylor we’re getting close to the lunacy of Kets here.

  • 57 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:15 PM

    Carrying…Bloody time. Who has any these days?

    Catchy….Let me assure you, it has nothing to do with BJ’s. I mean come on now, as if you would let squidy near ya. I very well may be proved wrong, but I think there is a point in sticking with both Gosling and Obertan, clearly both aren’t there yet (only a fool would say otherwise), but I haven’t written them off yet.

  • 58 Munster Mag // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:17 PM

    Are we going to take this competition seriously at all? We’re asking for trouble sending out a fairly weak team against Bordeaux, although one hopes that the French will aslo not send out their best players . That will be crucial. I would be concerned to see players like Amalfitano ( has he done anything of significance yet ? ) , Obertan ( improving, possibly ) and Gosling sent out to take full points. Lets hope that Cabaye does play, and Anita and Ferguson influence the game as they can.

  • 59 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:17 PM

    Catchy…As far as Pardew goes, yes, it’s all about the BJ’s. Nothing to do with getting us 5th, putting together one of the best teams we’ve had in a fair few years (obviously not there yet) and getting the manager of the year award. Definitely the sexual favours.

  • 60 catchy in norway // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:18 PM

    Nufc-83

    you must be watching a different obertan,, because the one that plays for us,

    carnt run fast with the ball
    carnt cross, 1 in 20 might get into the danger zone and thats on a good day,
    he holds onto the ball way to long
    his control is terible,,
    try watching him,,, but romain is a much better player, not as quick,, but can use the ball

  • 61 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:20 PM

    My team for tonight would be
    Eliiot

    Simmo perch wilo good

    Sammy anita cabaye fergie
    Gabby
    Strolla

    Really dont wanna see obertan on the wing he seems ineffective there but his pace through the middle could be very handy especially with sholas knock downs!!

    For me gos and vuckic have failed to impress and are a dangerous option for a home europen game against a good side were at SJP and 3 points is a must

  • 62 tarie4 // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:20 PM

    Nufc-83 // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:14 PM

    Good point, and oberton has visibly improved from last season too. He now gets to the by line, although his end product is poor, U shud be able to notice he is a better player than last season. His passing to feet is first class, and his movement is great. I heard Steve stone has been working with him extensively, and it shows.

  • 63 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:22 PM

    Tarie…Take cover. You just said Obertan and first class. I fear for your safety, I really do.

    Tads…Good at LB? On what basis? Otherwise quite happy with that.

  • 64 toonLYF // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:22 PM

    my team for what it’s worth… (plus without sounding like a pretentious &%”* i know my stuff about Ligue 1 teams, and Bordeaux match us all over the park almost)

    ——————-Elliot——————

    Simpson—–Willo—Perch—–Tavernier

    ————-Cabaye—Anita————-
    ^ ^
    Obertan————————-Ferguson

    ————-Shola——Cisse————-

    don’t wanna hear the rubbish about Cisse not being able to play tonight due to the game on Sunday. He’s a striker, meaning minimal workrate is required, and frankly we have no other real option if we really want to get a result tonight against what will be a strong Bordeaux team (obviously he can be replaced under certain cirumstances later on in the game)

    Ferguson is a no brainer, Obertan will hopefully be fired up against his former team, plus, hey give me stick if you like but i like the lad.

    Cabaye//Anita will be required as they are VERY strong in midfield. I would say their MF is almost as strong as ours, which is our best department. They have a flurry of internationals there too including Landry Nguemo (i think i’ve spelt that right) who is Cameroon international partnering Alex Song alot. Then you have more well-known players such as Plasil, Obraniak, Maurice-Belay and Traore. Atleast 3 of these will start tonight i imagine so Mr Pardew, Gosling and co, are simply not going to cut it tonight.

    On top of this we have to worry about a very talented forward they have, in Yoan Gouffran. Tough, tough game tonight, against the team i expect to finish top of our group.

  • 65 rainrix // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:22 PM

    Obertan kinda reminds me of myself when i used to play RB for my local team. I had loads of pace but no tricks so to speak. Usually my strategy for getting past people was like obertans, knock it past them and burn them for pace. I couldn’t cross particularly well either, so my coping strategy was to just absolutely hammer it into the box. Like striking technique :) . Occasionally came off, most of the time it just cannoned off the CB for a corner or an own goal. Maybe obertan can take a few lessons from me 😉

  • 66 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:23 PM

    Catchy
    Were all puuring him in the line up because its pretty much a garuntee that he’ll start a cup game nothing to do with his BJ’s which are poor due to his large forehead

  • 67 catchy in norway // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:23 PM

    Ibizatoon

    lmao

    there are 2 guys at pardews office every morning,,
    1
    mr mike ashley
    2
    dirk lameass

    more tea vicar

  • 68 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:25 PM

    Ibiza
    Just wanna see the lad play!! Heard he played a blinder at LB for us in a pre season or reserve game will prob be tav and thats cool but it took us ages to sign curtis and wanna see the boy in action!

  • 69 Nufc-83 // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:25 PM

    Catchy think you sholuld try watching obertan last game again and tell me he doesn’t put any balls into the danger zone.He put three low balls in and they were cleared at the front post yet that’s still the danger zone as if somebody had cut across the defender they would have had a great chance. i agree amaf looks more technically gifted and i would like to see more but if obertan can start plying with more confidence i can see him producing the goods.

    As for the question what basics cant Gosling do well the lad cant pass well and for a cm i think that has to be the main attribute. He gave away the ball 4 times out of 5 trying relatively simple passes in his last appearance at one stage i was just shaking my head in disbelief.

  • 70 catchy in norway // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:27 PM

    TDS

    sad but very true,,

    that head must of hurt his mother, even just looking at it hurts

  • 71 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:27 PM

    Rainrix for head coach???

  • 72 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:27 PM

    Catchy…Well someone needs to pull his strings. They wont get their ghastly deeds accomplished with a manager in a bundle will they?

    Does anyone know where his strings are controlled from at SJP? They do a good job at hiding them, credit where credit is due. A special mention to the make up team to, they hide the marionette mouth lines oh so well.

  • 73 Nufc-83 // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:28 PM

    Toon YLF exactly the team i would play.

    Would love to see cambell get some minutes though.

  • 74 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:29 PM

    Rainrix for RB?

    Tads…>Fair enough on Good. I thought maybe you had seen him play as most of the feedback I’ve heard is he is good, but not ready for first team yet and unlikely will be this season.

  • 75 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:32 PM

    Ibizzle
    Nah havent seen the lad but hey when does that stop us fans claiming we know more about the players than the coaches!!!
    By the jeff/kets has that waste of space cabaye been dropped for abied yet?

  • 76 rainrix // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:32 PM

    Tads… Im only 21, i’d have to hand out more bjs than obertan does allegedly to have a chance 😉 .

    ibiza… In my mind i like to think i could have been a professional, but at the time i was playing my best football at around 14 -15 i was just discovering alcohol and women. I could not be doing with playing football with a hangover :)

  • 77 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:33 PM

    Rainrix
    Better get some knee pads fitted then lad its gonna be a long season!!!

  • 78 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:36 PM

    rainrix…Not so sure Andy Carroll would agree. That lads worth £35m don’t you know or was it consumed alcohol up to the value of £35m, always get confused on that one 😉

    Tads…Ah yes, armchair wisdom far outweighs experience. I forgot, but promised to try and keep up from now on.

  • 79 rainrix // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:36 PM

    Tads… Maybe thats why we have so many injuries? Our players are ahem.. inadequately equipped to deal with pardews ferocious appetite for “the game”

  • 80 rainrix // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:37 PM

    Im sorry i’ve been here 10 minutes and the blog has descended into smut. Apologies.

  • 81 cupiddstunt // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:37 PM

    Mister Tuff @ # 53

    The conspiracy thing was just a quip as the feeling in the second part of your post leant that way.

    “Cabaye says one thing and Pardew says another–they both surely cannot be right”

    When there are many more ways for them to be innocently right and your innuendo wrong.

    “Having the press officer blocking attempts to find out more from Cabaye does fuel the suspicion”

    Only if you have a suspicious nature

    To be honest I have seen loads of press conferences like that and never gave a second thought to it obviously I am not suspicious enough.

    “I think it puts in doubt what Pardew states in the future”

    Even though it could well be Cabaye that got it wrong, you think it only lays doubt at AP’s door. WHY?

    You are looking more and more like a card holding member of the area 51 fan club. 😉

  • 82 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:40 PM

    Cupid…Have you ever been to area 51, well, near it, as you can’t actually go there? Odd place to say the least.

  • 83 rainrix // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:42 PM

    ibiza.. Sounds about right given prices for booze in newcastle

  • 84 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:44 PM

    Rainrix…Expensive hobby in Newcastle? Can’t imagine it’s as much as some places here at €15 a drink. Mind you, they’re 50% measures, so you don’t need many :)

    Hmmm…how to make this football related….nope, I can’t. Best apologise then….sigh

  • 85 obatoyou // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:46 PM

    campbell should play dude

  • 86 obatoyou // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:46 PM

    interestin, and how much for a pint in newcastle

  • 87 rainrix // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:49 PM

    ibiza… Depends where you go really. Quayside is ridiculously expensive, Suppose thats why its called the diamond strip. Gates not to bad. Of course if you go during the week its cheap due to students , you can get shots for a quid not bad, although it costs your dignity :)

  • 88 Carryingcoals // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:49 PM

    Ibizatoon

    NON FOOTBALLING POSTS, BE GONE WITH YOU I SAY

    obatoyou

    about a quid if you go in the beehive, you might not come out though.

  • 89 steveno7 // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:50 PM

    Catchu u attalking shite.
    the fact u have said obaton cant run fast with the ball and lacks control proves that.
    He is rapid and doea hqve quality control.
    I just wish he would have the confidence to go past players more . he really needs. to learn how to utilise his speed. and yes he needs to put t ball in more

  • 90 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:50 PM

    Rainrix…Dignity? Ha, I laugh at you, that was spent many years ago.

    Oba…Who is dude and can he tell me where my car is?

  • 91 JAMSHA // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:51 PM

    Newcastle v Bordeaux Live On Tensports India At 12:30 am .. PLZZZZ BE AVAIBLE SHARP AT 12 AM AT UR LIVENG ROOM FOR THE POST MATCH PREVIEW .

  • 92 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:52 PM

    Carrying…Fine, I know another site where people like me are not only welcomed with open arms but praised for their efforts.

    Just need to remember what it was called. Carrying something or other. It’ll come to me.

  • 93 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:56 PM

    Ibiza
    Did you know area 51 used to be open to the public until a fateful day when kets when there on a school trip, they immidiatly closed the surrounding area and have held him captive ever since to learn from him as he has the answers to save humanity!

  • 94 Carryingcoals // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:57 PM

    Ibiza… hahaha. It sounds horrendous. You’d never catch me on there that’s for sure.

  • 95 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:58 PM

    Tads….I didn’t know that, but have been convinced something of great importance was going on. It all makes sense now. Let’s hope he has a breakthrough soon. Perhaps he should spend less time on Newcastle though, unless the key to save humanity starts with Newcastle.

    Ponder on this I shall.

  • 96 cupiddstunt // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:58 PM

    Rainrix @ # 76

    Seen it happen son seen it happen.

    A girl (insert mature woman) I was going out with for a while had a nephew that played for Linlithgow Rose (a very successful and respected junior club) and I think all the Scottish national youth teams up until 15-16 then buckfast and street corners put an end to him.

    Was far more interested in buckie and hanging with his “homies” so the football went out the window sad waste.

  • 97 Carryingcoals // Oct 4, 2012 at 3:58 PM

    toonarmydownsouth

    I wish they wouldn’t let him on a computer from inside there though…

  • 98 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 4, 2012 at 4:01 PM

    Carrying…To be fair to the lad, he does a decent job and you can see he tries. Just needs to cut out some of the riff raff posters.

    Come on then lads. It’s that time. Score predictions. Correct guesses win a trip to the moon*

    *Winners must make their own way to the Sun, where they will be shuttled across to the moon. Prize includes a bottle of Olive oil to protect against the Sun. Organisers take no responsibility for burning or loss of life. No entries accepted after 8pm (GMT).

  • 99 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 4, 2012 at 4:02 PM

    Ibiza
    Well humanity is doomed unless we all come to terms that willo and simmo are league 2 defenders at best!
    WERE ALL DOOMED!!

  • 100 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 4, 2012 at 4:03 PM

    Cupid
    Nile ranger?

  • 101 rainrix // Oct 4, 2012 at 4:05 PM

    Cupid… Is buckfast that horrible red wine/alcopop sorta drink? Like 11% i think and goes down like river water 😐

    It is kinda sad. I think a lot of kids do lose their way. So much temptation in our society.

  • 102 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 4, 2012 at 4:05 PM

    tads…I think everyone has come to terms with that, other than the board and management. Not only are they ruining the club, but all of mankind. Is this Sports Directs ambition? To ruin the world?.

  • 103 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 4, 2012 at 4:05 PM

    Bizzle
    3-1 to the toon
    Obertan hatrick 😉

  • 104 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 4, 2012 at 4:06 PM

    Bit early to call, but I’d say get packing Tads. Don’t forget those sun glasses.

  • 105 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 4, 2012 at 4:07 PM

    Carrying
    I think we all wish that!

  • 106 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 4, 2012 at 4:07 PM

    I am off. Airport bound. If I’m not on before the game, HWTL.

    I will also just get this out there now, but most of you posting during the game…shame on you 😉

  • 107 blew // Oct 4, 2012 at 4:07 PM

    The game is on firstrow at 2005. Lets hope a strong side is selected, with a good crowd to cheer a decent win

  • 108 toonLYF // Oct 4, 2012 at 4:09 PM

    1-0 Newcastle, super Mike the wonderous Willie with the golaso. If i’m right this blog is mine! HUR-HUR-HUR.

  • 109 cupiddstunt // Oct 4, 2012 at 4:11 PM

    Biz @ # 82

    Nope but a very good friend of mine went to vegas for honeymoon and as he is a card carrying conspiracy theorist he had to hire a car and drive there.

    His story of some way down this dusty road, big fence, sign with “permitted use of deadly force” coupled with a four wheel drive with blacked out windows up on the sky line following them made his mind up for him to go back to the hotel.

    As I say I’m not suspicious enough to bother about it, (just for Jespers benefit) I cba.

    I got far too many other things going on in my life to bother trying to show the world how clever I am by deciphering what was not said. 😉

    Although that being said I would probably give it a look if I were within quick drive distance of it.

  • 110 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 4, 2012 at 4:11 PM

    Toon LYF
    If your right the blog will blow up

  • 111 toonLYF // Oct 4, 2012 at 4:13 PM

    there’s been alot of talk about the blog blowing up recently, less talk, more matches. Football ones of course.

  • 112 check the toastie // Oct 4, 2012 at 4:15 PM

    Hope Sammi and Fergy get a chance to press their claims tonight, i think it should be their turn, Gosling and Vuckic have had enough for me. Need a spell on the bench.

    Team expected though
    Elliot
    Simposn Willo Perch Fergy
    Obertoon Anita Bigi Sammi
    Cabaye
    Cisse

    Would be pretty pleased with that, however expect to see Vuckic and Gosling appear on the teamsheet unfortunately. Personally think that the team above is more effective than our current 1st team, who currently function terribly.

    We have width pace and guile in the midfield, good for Europa league for sure.

  • 113 toonLYF // Oct 4, 2012 at 4:16 PM

    what i really want to see is Williamson get his first goal, and then do the Gangnam Style dance as his celebration infront of the gallowgate. He would on the back of every Newcastle shirt i buy until i die if he done that.

  • 114 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Oct 4, 2012 at 4:18 PM

    Earlier, a girl asked me “if I’d like to have dinner some night?”, I replied “I like to have dinner every night.” She walked away.

    I’m confused.

  • 115 ppb // Oct 4, 2012 at 4:19 PM

    obertan to score and assist. 2-0

  • 116 ppb // Oct 4, 2012 at 4:23 PM

    hi beardo. you grown up yet? you did say you were only acting up during silly season.

  • 117 NUFC STEVE // Oct 4, 2012 at 4:23 PM

    Don’t think Williamson will play as pardew said in his last interview he has played far too many games!!

  • 118 woolerbill // Oct 4, 2012 at 4:24 PM

    If pardew thinks he can play players he thinks are good enough for the Prem, tonight and win is a total idiot, sorry.

  • 119 ppb // Oct 4, 2012 at 4:27 PM

    we should have a strong/young side saving some for man u.
    really wanna see fergy start

  • 120 cupiddstunt // Oct 4, 2012 at 4:28 PM

    Rainrix @ # 101

    That’s the very stuff.

    The stuff of legend north of the border, it is a fortified wine by all accounts, made by the monks at Buckfast abbey, and the curse of the youth of Scotland.

    There was a time in Scotland when the street corner youth were giving each other free cosmetic surgery every weekend so the monks were approached and asked to change the bottle from glass to another less offensive (when smashed on something hard then pushed into your face) substance like plastic types.

    To which the monks in their infinite Christian wisdom declined and continued to produce their devilish brew and distribute it in the innocent looking weapon called the glass bottle.

  • 121 Willo // Oct 4, 2012 at 4:28 PM

    Elliot
    Simpson Perch Willo Tavernier
    Anita Bigi
    Sammy Cabaye Fergie
    SHOLA(c)

    Fergie needs a game on the wing. He’s wasted at LB because he doesn’t have an attacking license like he does on the wing. Cabaye is fresh so he can pick the passes for Fergie and Sammy down the channels and Shola will show up because the derby is right around the corner and he’ll want to be in contention for that.

  • 122 Carryingcoals // Oct 4, 2012 at 4:28 PM

    2-2. Shola to score our first, a substitute to pull it back to 2-2.

    Expecting to go in to HT 1-0 down though.

    Can’t wait for kick off. I’m off to the union rooms. Thoughts tomorrow, enjoy.

  • 123 Carryingcoals // Oct 4, 2012 at 4:29 PM

    OR hopefully we trounce them 5-0 and continue the pattern 😉

  • 124 fray bentos // Oct 4, 2012 at 4:30 PM

    @Rotonda Heights

    You spout some utter tripe

    Im not defending Gosling but how can you say Abeid is way more effective when he hasn’t even played a premierhip game

    Now if you were arguing for him to be given a chance fair enough but your actually saying somebody is better when you have no way of knowing, completely discredits anything else you say to be honest

  • 125 cupiddstunt // Oct 4, 2012 at 4:31 PM

    Blew @ # 107

    What do you want to watch a seven year old footie match for? 😉 😆

  • 126 ppb // Oct 4, 2012 at 4:31 PM

    @cupid if only more youth were like me in my teens. robbing the drinks cabinet at a house party looking for decent scotch

  • 127 mattnufc // Oct 4, 2012 at 4:34 PM

    @121
    I think that will be the team but Obertan instead of Sammy. Sammy and Cisse to come on from bench!

  • 128 Magpies-till-d3ath // Oct 4, 2012 at 4:35 PM

    Really hope that Cisse gets to start 2nite! We need 2 get him back!

  • 129 fray bentos // Oct 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM

    For Catchy and the other Obertan haters

    Did you actually watch him properly during the Man U game?

    I agree he’s not been a great for us but that game with a few others showed his potential and thats always been the case with the guy, either a potentially great player or a non-premiership quality player, just give him a chance to get there

  • 130 davybtoon // Oct 4, 2012 at 4:59 PM

    I think Curtis good might get a start tonight

  • 131 toonbrother // Oct 4, 2012 at 5:02 PM

    as long as the joke that is gosling doesnt start..we have a chance

  • 132 toonbrother // Oct 4, 2012 at 5:05 PM

    Elliot
    Simpson Perch Willo Anita
    Obertan Bigi Cabaye Sammy
    SHOLA(c) Cisse

    HTL

  • 133 fray bentos // Oct 4, 2012 at 5:08 PM

    @118 woolerbill

    Your calling Pardew an idiot, yet your statment doesn’t appear to make any sense whatsoever

  • 134 bollance // Oct 4, 2012 at 5:11 PM

    It is likely good will be on the benh tonight

    He did not play in the reserves friendly yesterday vs York.

  • 135 bollance // Oct 4, 2012 at 5:14 PM

    Woolerbill

    I think pards earned our respect last season so please show a little

  • 136 Mister Tuff // Oct 4, 2012 at 5:15 PM

    Cupid @#81.
    “Even though it could well be Cabaye that got it wrong, you think it only lays doubt at AP’s door. WHY?”
    The corporate team should have the ability to see off these issues in a professional manner –they have the press officers and in this case certainly had the time and should have been aware of what issues may arise. AP is the manager and “front man” of the club. If he does not get things right, corporate responsibility should be such that the issues lie at his door.
    You declare you are not a suspicious person, therefore I must apologise immediately for suggesting that there may be bad, naughty and dishonest people in the world. I do not want to have the burden of colouring someones’ mind in this context and for consuming their time with the subject matter of my post. Therefore I will not be contributing further on this specific subject which should allow you to get back to Utopia immediately (that might be SJP tonight if we win).
    Suspicion is a natural consequence of the human brain evolved throughout time. (There is plenty of material on this process from Evolutionary Psychologists –you really need to check this out).
    A précis of the evidence is that the naturally developed brain processes does include suspicion. Clearly without suspicion suggests your brain has not developed properly –and there is clear evidence of this on some of your posts, recent and historic

  • 137 cupiddstunt // Oct 4, 2012 at 5:19 PM

    fray bentos @ # 133

    C’mon fb don’t mince your words.

    The post at 118 makes NO sense and they are calling AP an idiot.

    What a prize buffoon to call someone an idiot and present it in a post that is just a mindless ramble.

    The only sensible thing about that post was the apology of sorry at the end. Hahaha

  • 138 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 4, 2012 at 5:21 PM

    Bollance
    This is the team i posted earlier knowing very little about good! You seem to watch the reserves alot and i remember someone saying he played a game there and played well henve i’ve bunged the lad there can you shed some light in mr.good is he any, well, good?

    Eliiot
    Simmo perch wilo good
    Sammy anita cabs fergie
    Gabby
    Strolla

  • 139 rainrix // Oct 4, 2012 at 5:25 PM

    Cupid… Interesting story. Im suprised you dont see it in england. You’d think a alcohol heavy cheap sweet drink would be popular down here. And its brewed in cornwall bit weird that 😐

  • 140 Mark.J // Oct 4, 2012 at 5:27 PM

    I’m afraid that record isn’t true Ed, I remember in 2002 when Inter beat us 1-4 @ St James’ Park. Still fancy 3 points tonight, hope he fields a strong team. HTL!

  • 141 Ketsbaia9 // Oct 4, 2012 at 5:27 PM

    Such a weak back-line. Can’t see us scoring today, so going for a 2-0 defeat. Willo might concede a penalty tonight. Refereees are finally going to start penalising him for shirt pulling/pushing etc.

  • 142 John Tudor // Oct 4, 2012 at 5:29 PM

    go lick a plug socket

  • 143 John Tudor // Oct 4, 2012 at 5:31 PM

    sholas gonna get ya

  • 144 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 4, 2012 at 5:37 PM

    Ketsbia
    Someone might get hit by a bus tonight or they might not
    Wilo might concede a pen or like for a high percentage he might not as for saying what a weak back 4 we havent even announced it yet!!

    You must be the most miserable pessimistic excuse for a fan the toon have ever had the displeasure of supporting them so much so the only thing any fan could ask you is why do you bother? Really hope you dont go to games as must bring everyone around you down but if you do go tonight i hope willo hoofs a rocket into row z bang on target at your miserable face
    You sir are not a fan end of

  • 145 John Tudor // Oct 4, 2012 at 5:39 PM

    nope he is worse than that jim

  • 146 cupiddstunt // Oct 4, 2012 at 5:48 PM

    Mister Tuff @ #136

    That still does not explain why you are giving Cabaye a free pass and AP not unless of course there is some bias in your outlook.

    On the underdeveloped brain I think you may well have a point, although there are arguments both for and against.

    Accepting the evolutionary theory you are claiming, it is safe to say then that the mind develops the trait of suspicion by environment and practice and I think the demise of the dodo is a classic example of this. So this being said I was brought up in a household that practiced honesty and telling of the truth so a poorly developed sense of suspicion hence when I read something I do not necessarily look for the stories that may be hidden behind the stories.

    Although I did say “obviously I am not suspicious enough” I did not say I was devoid of suspicion but if it help you feel better about yourself to think that your brain is more developed than mine then feel free.

    Although if my upbringing has given me an underdeveloped sense of suspicion, what does that say about your upbringing?

    Seeing shadows at the grassy knoll when there may not even be a grassy knoll 😉

  • 147 hotdog // Oct 4, 2012 at 6:03 PM

    It’s amazing how the blog tension goes up dramatically pre match. :-)

  • 148 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 4, 2012 at 6:04 PM

    Hotdog
    PMT
    Pre match tension! Mostly bought on by a certain WUM

  • 149 cupiddstunt // Oct 4, 2012 at 6:05 PM

    Rainrix @ # 139

    Having tried it to see what all the hoohah was about I can tell you it is very much an acquired taste.

    It is not as I remember it a very sweet or palatable drink, but more so it was a very cheap way of getting drunk. To the hardline alcoholics I think the drink of choice which once was buckfast is now cheap cider, it costs less and comes in much bigger bottles.

    I do believe it has gone up in price over the last few years (the Scottish government did ask the monks to up the price a bit which they initially refused although I think they have since relented) but it was the de facto method if getting drunk.

    I have a sneaking suspicion (and there’s me saying I’m not particularly suspicious) that there is a little bit of an addictive quality to it, my future son in law who is in a very well paying career still has the odd bottle with his pals, although now it’s in the house not on the street corner. :)

  • 150 John Tudor // Oct 4, 2012 at 6:08 PM

    i personally have a penchant for meths

  • 151 Griff-toon // Oct 4, 2012 at 6:14 PM

    Hi all, looking forward to the match!

    Anyone have any links yet?

  • 152 hotdog // Oct 4, 2012 at 6:14 PM

    Tds- haha aye some right fannies lol
    After all its only a game of footy 😉
    I’m going for 3-0 and obertan to have a storma with a hatrick :-)

  • 153 breno95 // Oct 4, 2012 at 6:17 PM

    Taking into account we play man Utd on Sunday and the physios get Saylor and Colo fit my 11 tonight is:-
    Elliott
    Simpson
    Tavernier
    Williamson
    Ferguson
    Marv
    Cabaye
    Amalfatano
    Sammy
    Campbell
    Cisse

    Subs:-
    Harper
    Perch
    Bigi
    Gosling
    Shola
    Obertan
    It’s a mixture of youth and experience plus is giving the likes of Cabaye and Cisse another game to get it together as both have not yet got into top gear.

  • 154 cupiddstunt // Oct 4, 2012 at 6:20 PM

    John Tudor tried that as well when I was a young un, told the chemist it was for a meths burner and I couldn’t even swallow it, it was so yuach.

    The yanks even made it into a jelly to stop the alkies drinking it but it didn’t stop them. Yanks regularly call alkies sterno’s after the de-natured jellied alcohol in sterno cans.

    Tried lots and lots of things when I was a kid (wonder I am still here maybe that’s why my brain as mr tuff claims is underdeveloped) 😆

  • 155 Griff-toon // Oct 4, 2012 at 6:29 PM

    Is it still to early to ask for links :)

    Or is everyone busy with dinner?

  • 156 Ian Toon // Oct 4, 2012 at 6:30 PM

    Ibiza- Pardew wants to win and thereafter have more flexibility as
    regards team selection as we progress through the league. Sorry fella’s
    But it’s 4-4-2 . With Harper, Simpson, Williamson , Perch, Santon,
    Obertan, Cabaye, Anita, Marveaux , Ameobi and Cisse.
    Pushy- give it a rest mate. What goes around comes around.

  • 157 cupiddstunt // Oct 4, 2012 at 6:31 PM

    griff ko 20.05 so no links will up for another 90 mins at least.

    Think someone said frontrow earlier on.

  • 158 Jail for Ashley // Oct 4, 2012 at 6:34 PM

    I’m a bit gutted I’m going to miss the game tonight,BBC football is the best I’m yoing yo get on the train,but I watched Aarsenal and Man U put out strong squads and apparently this Bordeaux side is quite tasty I can’t see the hsrm in us fielding a stronger tesm tonight.

  • 159 Grafton83 // Oct 4, 2012 at 6:34 PM

    I know he’s young and we’re giving them a chance in this competition but mark my words Tav is going to get raped more times than the 12 year old kid on Jim’ll fix it the day Gary Glitter came for a visit.

    That actually happened btw
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9586024/Gary-Glitter-raped-a-girl-in-Jimmy-Saviles-dressing-room.html

  • 160 Griff-toon // Oct 4, 2012 at 6:35 PM

    Aah thank you Cupiddstunt. Im playing a bit of Fifa 13 to pass the time and they realy made Newcastle better in this game and rightly so after their 5th place last season.

    Cisse has one hell of a shot in the game. Anyone else tried it?

  • 161 ppb // Oct 4, 2012 at 6:42 PM

    @griff cisse scores when he wants even in game

  • 162 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 4, 2012 at 6:45 PM

    Griff
    None up yet but the games on ESPN
    so there will be tonnes of links mate

    This normally has a few on it
    http://www.footballstreaming.info/

  • 163 Griff-toon // Oct 4, 2012 at 6:50 PM

    ppb: so the problem is he just doesnt whant to score atm

    Toonarmy: thanks for that m8. Im sure someone will post a good link here later. I probably should try and find it myself bur wouldnt know where to start looking.

    I would prob google Newcastle vs Bordeaux

  • 164 Big Pappa Cissé // Oct 4, 2012 at 6:53 PM

    Its nice to be Newcastle on Fifa and actually be able to give most other teams on the game some decent competition. Demba Ba is a beast on Fifa 13 as well like

  • 165 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 4, 2012 at 6:56 PM

    BPC
    Ba has been destroying the league for me on fifa :) also amalfitano is awesome on fifa!

  • 166 steveno7 // Oct 4, 2012 at 6:56 PM

    Frontrowsports
    vipbox

  • 167 ppb // Oct 4, 2012 at 6:56 PM

    bank is a beast. and tiote. cisse , cabaye, anita gets good quick. Colo is class. bit show tho.

  • 168 ppb // Oct 4, 2012 at 7:01 PM

    *ba

  • 169 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 4, 2012 at 7:01 PM

    Ppb
    Signed a young cb called masi to eventually replace colo hes on loan and gone from 71 to 77 in about 5 months! But got that santana lad from dortmund alongside colo pretty quick n always scores from corners!

  • 170 mattyNUFC // Oct 4, 2012 at 7:10 PM

    Newcastle United (4-3-3): Rob Elliot; Danny Simpson, Mike Williamson, James Perch, Shane Ferguson; Vurnon Anita, Cheick Tiote, Yohan Cabaye; Papiss Cisse, Shola Ameobi (c), Gabriel Obertan
    Substitutes: Steve Harper, Davide Santon, Gael Bigirimana, Dan Gosling, Hatem Ben Arfa, Sammy Ameobi, Demba Ba

  • 171 mattyNUFC // Oct 4, 2012 at 7:11 PM

    if it’s 433, which one of papis or shola is on the wing??

    strange line-up

  • 172 mattyNUFC // Oct 4, 2012 at 7:11 PM

    inevitably it’ll work itself to a 442, naturally. should’ve put either ba, marvs or fergi out left. strange strange

  • 173 Magpies-till-d3ath // Oct 4, 2012 at 7:14 PM

    I think we’re playing 4312! With shola behind gabby and papiss!

  • 174 ppb // Oct 4, 2012 at 7:16 PM

    4312 with oba behind shoal and cisse?

  • 175 Novocastrian66 // Oct 4, 2012 at 8:21 PM

    Class from Gabby.




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