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Manchester United Take Newcastle Apart 3-0

6:24 pm, Sunday, October 7th, 2012 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 44 Comments

The fragility of the Newcastle squad was laid bare today, as Manchester United comprehensively beat Newcastle 3–0 at St. James’ Park and the visitors completely dominated Newcastle for the first 25 minutes of this game, scored two but missed about four other good chances – and the game was effectively over when Jonny Evans and then Patrice Evra – all 5’8″ of him – headed goals direct from corners, and the Newcastle marking was woeful – and that’s being kind.

And until Newcastle can turn up at these games from the first minute, we will lose a lot more games than we’ll win, and we have to wake up before these games are lost – which this game was early in the first half — and the question was how many would Manchester United score.

Manchester United started like a steam train and Newcastle just couldn’t live with the slick passing and energetic play of the Red Devils, and it was no surprise when the visitors went ahead after just 8 minutes when Evans headed in unmarked from a right wing Robin van Persie corner.

Three minutes later Rafael was clean through on the right but shot wide, and then Steve Harper in the Newcastle gal, who did not have a good game, was caught with the ball, as he tried like a crazy man to dribble the ball past van Persie – he’s done this before and he should blast the ball out of play - when in doubt kick it out.

The Dutchman got the ball but missed the chance and save Steve’s blushes – but that wasn’t the first time Steve’s has done this – and- he needs to cut it out.

But the opposition went further ahead after 16 minutes when – would you believe it – Patrice Evra headed home direct from another right wing corner – and I’m afraid our back-up defense was just not good enough against a Manchester United team in this form.

When Steven Taylor and Fabricio Coloccini are missing we have no really effective back-ups apart from Mike Williamson – which is why we need to bring in defensive targets.

But isn’t that what we were saying last May?

This game showed that Newcastle have just not strengthened their squad enough for us to be challenging like we were last season, and any injuries to our top players, and we’re not half the team.

That’s why we need a bigger squad.

After the second goal went in a few Newcastle players woke up and we came more into the game but it was still 2-0 at the half, and Newcastle had a huge hole to climb out of.

And just into the second half Patrice Evra pulled on Cisse’s shirt as he went for the ball from a corner – and that should have been a penalty – how do four officials miss that type of thing – almost every time?

Newcastle pressed in the second half and a goal then would have made this game competitive be and how Cisse didn’t score after 50 minutes when a Cisse header from a Ferguson cross hit the cross bar and his follow up header was clawed back by de Gea – but it looked like the ball could have been over the line.

On 62 minutes Anita for Ferguson and Shola Ameobi were the changes that Alan pardew made, as Newcastle were trying to get into the game, but the match was sealed after 71 minutes when Tom Cleverley hit the ball in from the corner of the penalty box, and the ball looped over Steve Harper and into the far top right hand corner of the goal.

Steve touched the ball but couldn’t keep it out.

Harper probably should have done better with that one – but that was the game and on 80 minutes Bigirimana made his customary sub appearance for Cheick Tiote, who didn’t play well today and gave the ball away again far too much in this game – and yes he picked up his customary yellow card.

Newcastle were simply second best today, and we may have to lower expectations of our side unless our top players from now on can remain injury free – but of course that will not happen.

For us – this result put sin perspective Newcastle’s inability to strengthen their defense in the summer and when you male mistakes like that – this is what can happen.

It was a terrible result and not the kind of thing you want going into a two week international break – and we’ll have all the gloom and doomers out – but bottom line Newcastle need more good players into their squad before we can improve on last season – and we should have done that in the summer.

We were second best by a long way today – and that’s the truth – but of course Manchester United played probably their best game of the season today as well.

Very disappointing result and first half performance, but to try to end on a positive note - it’s only one game – and against a very good side today.

This was Newcastle’s first home defeat of the season and only the second all year – the other defeat being to that other Manchester team.

Teams:

Newcastle United (4-4-2): Steve Harper; David Santon, Mike Williamson, James Perch, Shane Ferguson (Vurnon Anita 63); Hatem Ben Arfa, Cheick Tiote (Gael Bigirimana 80), Yohan Cabaye, Jonas Gutierrez; Demba Ba, Papiss Cisse (Shola Ameobi 63)
Subs not used: Jak Alnwick, Danny Simpson, Gabriel Obertan, Sammy Ameobi

Manchester United: (4-2-3-1): David De Gea; Rafael, Rio Ferdinand, Jonny Evans, Patrice Evra (c); Tom Cleverley, Michael Carrick; Danny Welbeck, Wayne Rooney (Paul Scholes 80), Shinji Kagawa (Antonio Valencia 55); Robin Van Persie (Ryan Giggs 87)
Subs not used: Anders Lindegaard, Scott Wootton, Anderson, Javier Hernandez

Referee: Howard Webb (Yorkshire)

Bookings: Newcastle United – Tiote (33), Gutierrez (42), Perch (75), Bigirimana (86); Manchester United – Kagawa (21), Ferdinand (30), Van Persie (31), Scholes (90)

Attendance: 52,203



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44 responses so far ↓

  • 1 darrenfletcher88 // Oct 7, 2012 at 6:26 PM

    Total rubbish,I’ll be booing next home game!! Points are needed and quick it’s going to be a long hard road!!!

  • 2 Big_mac // Oct 7, 2012 at 6:26 PM

    Sorry, but this is the last time i want to see Cisse and Ba in a 442 formation. Seen it before, doesnt work. Play 433 or start Ameobi and Ba. Also In January we need another CB. and another striker. Rant over.

  • 3 Toon1978 // Oct 7, 2012 at 6:29 PM

    We where pretty poo today.

  • 4 Grafton83 // Oct 7, 2012 at 6:29 PM

    I still think we scored, sky keep pausing at the wrong point, the whole of the ball WAS over the line.

    That said we must also sort out set plays we are awful at them, defending and attacking.

  • 5 jeff // Oct 7, 2012 at 6:29 PM

    Jonas played well imo

    As did perch and santon. Williamson should not go up for freee kicks. Never looks like scoring and just fouls everyone. Pardew is a joke, we rely too much on wonder goals, when as the last time we scored through intricate passing or just swarming the box and creating pressure??? Van prrsie is a sack, tiote is foolish and vastly overrated. Big mie had reason to laugh after our comical performance. Roll out 2020/21 season

  • 6 TorqToon // Oct 7, 2012 at 6:29 PM

    Darren – That’s a joke surely??? Tell me that was a joke…

  • 7 Grafton83 // Oct 7, 2012 at 6:31 PM

    Please can we also buy a first team CB it was meant to be our priority before the summer window, Pards said a CB who can score a few. I really wish that had happened, everyone could see these goals coming today with Willo and Perch, I would worry about that pairing in the championship nevermind Prem

  • 8 Toon1978 // Oct 7, 2012 at 6:32 PM

    The goal that Everton should have had against us come back and bit us on the ass today. That referee should never ever referee a Man Utd match again. He wasn’t even discreet in showing favouritism toward them…..the w2nka.

  • 9 cyprus // Oct 7, 2012 at 6:32 PM

    AP, the ball was over the line, just saw technological analysis on TV! I guess the writing was on the wall, look at that guy’s cross – ‘wonder goal’. Still, a clear loss. We must learn to play with intensity from the start, we haven’t really had a good first 20 minutes. One of our two forwards should have started clearly in the middle, in order to win that midfield battle against their 5. Harper shaky today, should’ ve saved that first header. Concerns regarding Anita, a 6.5 m. man who has brought little more to the team.

  • 10 Carryingcoals // Oct 7, 2012 at 6:33 PM

    This comment is aimed directly at the regulars on here:

    We weren’t actually that bad. 2 set pieces and a great cross/shot in the top corner.

    Wasteful in possession with the ball but could have scored ourselves at 2-1 down.

    Really not the end of the world and it was against a strong Manchester United team.

    Did I want to see more from us? yes. Could we have been better and more urgent with the ball? Of course. But I wouldn’t scapegoat anybody today and its not a game that will define our season.

    We have some worries (ie the Ba/Cisse combo) but if we get a result at Sunderland this will very much be forgotten about.

    After watching the full game I cannot say we were horrendous. Not clinical enough but we’ve played far worse than that. Don’t worry.

  • 11 ToonBry // Oct 7, 2012 at 6:34 PM

    You guys heard that wonga is the new stadium and shirt sponser!! The f***kin wonga stadium!!! My life is over!

  • 12 davis_toons // Oct 7, 2012 at 6:34 PM

    Mike Ashley knew we got not much chance..that why he was smiling and laughing away.

  • 13 Grafton83 // Oct 7, 2012 at 6:34 PM

    Thought Ben Arfa showed class again. He has been amazing this year an gives players around him confidence too, if he ever gets injured we’ll look very ordinary

  • 14 Toon1978 // Oct 7, 2012 at 6:35 PM

    Carryingcoals

    What about the non regulars? Do they not count like lol???

  • 15 davis_toons // Oct 7, 2012 at 6:35 PM

    Or was it the wonga deal that makes him this happy…anyway its a business done deal.

    Great News.. We will be buying comes January.

  • 16 AMEOBI // Oct 7, 2012 at 6:37 PM

    I don’t get people who sit at home who don’t attend matches (armchair supporters) but complain none stop about our team. Wasn’t a great game but that was enjoyable to be at, they’re man united, before you internet trolls start complaining, how about play some football yourselves? CLUELESS!!

  • 17 Shedzzzaa // Oct 7, 2012 at 6:37 PM

    Are you kidding me? It was welbeck who Harper tried to take on man!!!!!

  • 18 BelfastMagpie // Oct 7, 2012 at 6:37 PM

    Ba scored with his hand last week,so we’ve a cheek to complain about the ball being over the line lol

    Swings and roundabouts.

    We got one for us last week,and one against us this week.

    So no cõmplaints from me.

  • 19 Toon1978 // Oct 7, 2012 at 6:37 PM

    The WONGA stadium..hahahahahahahaha..my life. My passion for NUFC is slowly diminishing after 25 plus years of support. What a bloody joke hahahaha!!!!

  • 20 Grafton83 // Oct 7, 2012 at 6:38 PM

    @Carryingcoals,

    Agreed, at least we put them under pressure and created chances at times. The result does look worse than it is. Everyone else in the league would struggle to recover from the start we made

  • 21 numba9 // Oct 7, 2012 at 6:38 PM

    Well done this summer mike dealing with the buyout of jjb pity u couldn’t do us any deals we needed. No wonder you are smiling .s j p 4 ever

  • 22 Carryingcoals // Oct 7, 2012 at 6:38 PM

    Toon1978

    Course mate, but normally when we get beat/ don’t win even, a lot of people come on, leave one negative comment and don’t contribute anything else.

    If I’m going to talk to anybody about today’s game I’d rather it be with familiar names/people than bothering to reply to a comment without any consideration.

    Trust me, it can be frustrating.

    Having said that Kets is a regular and any conversation with him is frustrating. We probably would have won the game if greedy old Mike had splashed out 40 million on Falcao in the summer…

  • 23 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Oct 7, 2012 at 6:38 PM

    Haven’t seen any replays yet, but by the sounds of it, we had a goal disallowed and a sure penalty waved away. Howard Webb should be banned from reffing Man U games, it happens too often for it to be coincidence now. Yeah, we got trounced, but nobody is saying we are a better side than Man U. We arent, an realistically never will be. Poor performance but let’s not get too negative.

  • 24 darrenfletcher88 // Oct 7, 2012 at 6:39 PM

    No not a joke at all,why pretend everything is good when it’s not!! We have been crap all season,not good enough

  • 25 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 7, 2012 at 6:39 PM

    The thing is though pards always says we need to start quicker and you could literaly see him screaming at the lads just dont get why we start so slowly!
    We were made to pay for that big time today to very weak goals concede in the opening 15 mins
    Normally i think willo gets some unfair criticism but today the lad way dire the first goal was all him conceded a shite corner then completly lost evans!
    Tiote is actually looking worse every game the amount of times he looses possesion deep in our half is unreal
    Poor fergie is not a lb and to start him there was a mistake surely either start simmo at rb or anita who is a lb?
    Cisse is essentially non exsistent in a 442 so should either start shola or play a different formation
    Shola was decent enough but had to drop way to deep to get the ball which kinda nulifies the point of bringing him on
    HBA was a bit frustrating
    Cabs done dome decent things today but considering hes supposed to be our engine he’s not doing enough were actually missing guthrie and think another CM is as bigger priority than another CB!

  • 26 Toon1978 // Oct 7, 2012 at 6:42 PM

    AMEOBI

    All have a right to opinions end of story ;)

  • 27 boater // Oct 7, 2012 at 6:42 PM

    Suck it up lads. It’s Man U.. they still have a psychological hold over the opposition – and to be fair their passing and movement is light years ahead of most teams in europe. First goal was always crucial – if we’d got it I would fancy us to go on and win it comfortably. There ya go.

    Maybe the full back experiment wasn’t for a game like this, but apart from that Pards didn’t get much wrong. Draws against Reading and Villa were more costly than this.

    Off day. On to the next game- no point in squealing like babbies.

  • 28 Carryingcoals // Oct 7, 2012 at 6:44 PM

    BelfastMagpie

    True. Plus Everton had the ball over the line against us and din’t get the goal.

    Grafton83

    Completely agree. And yeah the set piece goals knocked the stuffing out of us and kind of ruined the game as a spectacle for me.

    Man U didn’t look like world beaters today nor did Newcastle look like an abysmal side. It’s only the 2nd time we’ve lost at home all year. I won’t be losing any sleep or getting too angry over today’s result.

    And before any of the naggers come out – Perch and Willo were fine today. Not brilliant, but they didn’t cost us the game. Let’s not berate them.

    Credit where credit is due too, Man U were solid at the back. Ba and Ben Arfa were dealt with well. Valencia shored up the left hand side with his introduction too, fair play to Sir Alex.

    … Still hate them though, hope City turn them over when they meet again! But yeah, no cause to really panic after today.

  • 29 Toon1978 // Oct 7, 2012 at 6:45 PM

    Carryingcoals

    I see what you mean. I have been posting on here for years although i do not comment everyday. I read the comments everyday though.

  • 30 Carryingcoals // Oct 7, 2012 at 6:46 PM

    boater

    Good post, especially the points about Reading/Villa.

  • 31 ONLINE GUY // Oct 7, 2012 at 6:48 PM

    RVPs attack on Cabaye has been covered up

    Off the ball disgusting elbow in the face

    Remember Ray Stubbs last season..sent FA Prem footage of Cabaye in an incident and got him a 3 match ban

    Can we all send a note to the FA and ask them to look at this cowardly attack by that Horrible Bas*ard Van Persie ?

    The TV Guys did not show any close ups of the attack..
    If that had been one of our players they would have showed you the attack from 50 differing angles and condemed the player . An Fa charge would have been forthcoming Monday morning.

    One rule for Man U anoth…..

  • 32 Carryingcoals // Oct 7, 2012 at 6:48 PM

    Toon1978

    I’m similar to be honest, looking back I could have phrased that better. Fair point, apologies :D

  • 33 TorqToon // Oct 7, 2012 at 6:48 PM

    Darren – So you are going to BOO your own team next week!! Wow!! True fan you like! YOU and others like you are the reason I don’t come on this blog on a matchday! Idiot!

  • 34 darrenfletcher88 // Oct 7, 2012 at 6:50 PM

    I’ll boo them if they don’t improve they have been awful all season except thurs!!

  • 35 mattyNUFC // Oct 7, 2012 at 6:52 PM

    AMEOBI

    so because some of us are thousands of miles away we’re not fit to pass judgement??

    f*** off

  • 36 karasu // Oct 7, 2012 at 7:14 PM

    our league has been mediocre at best with 2/7 wins 3/7 draw n 2/7 losses. beat by chelsea n man u when we shd be chalenging em instead of rolling over lik a yellow belly mutt. struggled against norwich. drawn by relegationists villa n reading. we shdnt be in dis state whr we are short on 1st team players in e 1st place when we shd have invested in june july aug. pardew shd hav stop 442 long ago n no tactic nous n motivation skills. ferguson is overrated. look at him contribute noting today. jonas contributes nothing. cisse is really a dud beneath and willo shd never hav been ere in e 1st place. we will lose our other games if we continue lik dis, then lose our league standings, then our hope of europe, our top players lik hba anf cabaye, and be relegated even b4 the 8 yrs are up. PARDEW OUT.

  • 37 Ketsbaia9 // Oct 7, 2012 at 7:25 PM

    Williamson cost us the match. Pardew shouldn’t have played a winger at left back. That was a big problem. Santon was our best player today. We need 6 new first team signings. We shouldn’t be getting beat against teams like Man Utd at home. They’re a poor side and will struggle in the league and champions league this season.

  • 38 dinosaur // Oct 7, 2012 at 8:35 PM

    I was disturbed by Tiote today. His fouls make me ashamed to watch them. Pardew should have a word with him to clean up his act, or ship out. His customary energy is appreciated, but not in the form it sometimes takes.

  • 39 musicman240198 // Oct 7, 2012 at 8:43 PM

    I’ve never heard so much rubbish about Gutierrez, he played his heart & soul out today. Some great tackling and never stopped working for the team. The only person who was not up to standard today was Williamson, he is not premiership quality and consistently makes mistakes, he should not be in the team. Ashley did not invest in defenders in the summer and that is the soul reason we will struggle this season. Newcastle, bar the first 20 minutes or so (which I missed because I was at my sons football) played well, they matched Man U, but could not score. We didn’t disgrace ourselves, we played well

  • 40 Jinky Jim // Oct 7, 2012 at 8:47 PM

    Pardew has once again got the tactics and selections wrong.
    442 is from the dark ages,plus 5 players playing out of position.How can you play one of the best attacking midfielders in the world in a defensive role? time after time.
    Carrying coals,your a middle of the road wanker

  • 41 woolerbill // Oct 7, 2012 at 8:52 PM

    just because we can afford ticket to wonga stadium does mean we are not true fans,with the write to comment. We keep turning up late for the game, the game starts when the whistle ot can Pardew not see this could have been another 5_0′ get a grip

  • 42 Szarka // Oct 8, 2012 at 12:17 AM

    Clearly a bad for Pardew not training set pieces enough, the team didnt know which men should they hold.
    20 minute total disaster, and at least an equal 65 minute, but that only means we didnt lost with a bigger difference.
    It is clear now for everyone, that we need at least one CD, Perch and Willo cant solve the problem together.

  • 43 kukubean // Oct 8, 2012 at 1:45 AM

    COME on guys, ok we didn’t defend the corners. We did not had Saylor and Colo. But come ON!. we were massive throughout the game. Pressing them in. Have you seen Rafael and Evra staying so deep… despite the scoreline i take a lot or positives from it. Did you see when they were in our half ,how we were not clearing and try to pass our way through. Did you see how Santon played in the right pinning Rooney behind, Did you see how Bigi came at stick to it. How anita did the same as well.. This is a ONE-off…

  • 44 jamo nairobi // Oct 8, 2012 at 9:28 AM

    I think Tiote is short of match fitness, so he covers for this by giving silly fouls.Our marking at set-pices is appalling, you culd see Gutierrez constantly telling Ben Arfa to pick Evra in the box and also telling Williamson to get on to Evans for the goals, We need 2 CB’s and another striker in Jan if we’ll not finish mid table.




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