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Newcastle vs Manchester United – Match Preview

11:16 am, Sunday, October 7th, 2012 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 131 Comments

The last time we hosted Manchester United, back in early January, we hammered them 3-0, and we’re looking for another 3 points today, when the Red Devils visit St. James’ Park this afternoon.

And Newcastle will be buoyed by their excellent display against Bordeaux on Thursday night in the Europa League and that win put us top of group D – with two of the four teams qualifying for the knock-out rounds at the end of this year.

For once Newcastle hit something like their best form on Thursday night, with goals from Shola Ameobi and Papiss Cisse, and an own goal made it 3-0 to the Magpies.

The Manchester United defense has looked a little uncertain so far this season, and that’s probably their weakness,  and from Alan Pardew’s comments in the press since Thursday night, it seems Newcastle will attack the defense from the first whistle.

And on the injury front we are told that Colo and Steven Taylor are still out, and in one of his interviews, the Newcastle manager said that Williamson and James Perch would be the starting center-backs – but it wouldn’t surprise us too much if Colo is back this afternoon to captain the side – but we’ll assume for the team selection he is still injured.

Steve Harper will start in goal and with Tim Krul and the impressive Rob Elliot both out injured,  19 year-old Jak Alnwick will be on the bench this afternoon.

For his first game back after injury Danny Simpson was particularly impressive on Thursday against Bordeaux, and we expect him to start today at right back.

So this could be the team that Alan starts this afternoon.

Simpson Perch Williamson Santon
Ben Arfa Tiote Cabaye Gutierrez
Ba Ameobi (Sh)
Subs: Alnwick Bigirimana Tavernier Anita Ferguson Obertan Cisse

We have a hunch that Shola could get the start this afternoon, and certainly the Nigerian born striker and Demba ba played well together in the 3-0 mauling of the Red Devils in early January, and Shola is very good at the knock-ins he gets in the air.

The keys to this game seem fairly simple:

  • James Perch and Mike Williamson have strong games at the back and can cope with Rooney and van Persie – not an easy task by any means
  • Demba Ba, Shola and Papiss continue to be in good goal-scoring form and can take the chances as they come
  • The Red Devils defense is as good (or bad depending on which way you look at it), as it’s looked so far this season – it’s their weak link
  • Yohan Cabaye and Cheick Tiote continue where they left off on Thursday night, and both have good games and we control the middle of the park

And of course we will need some luck as well, as we had on Thursday night, when we scored the goals at just the right time.

We really do need 3 points this afternoon to give our season some momentum in the league, after we have put ourselves in a very decent position to qualify for the knock-out stages of the Europa League, and we can get the win today – but we’ll need some luck too and be very near our best form.

Let us know what you think the team will be this afternoon and also how you think the game will go this afternoon.

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131 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Dannyo // Oct 7, 2012 at 11:21 AM

    Tiote will sort out Rooney, as usual.

  • 2 JAMSHA // Oct 7, 2012 at 11:27 AM

    voted win , exictng match.we need magic from.arfa ..gona be key player in settng goals for us

  • 3 Super Magpie // Oct 7, 2012 at 11:31 AM

    I’m worried with that defence.
    I can’t see us winning if Colo isn’t fit.

  • 4 hdavid23 // Oct 7, 2012 at 11:31 AM

    lot of people seem to be upset about Wonga becoming our shirt sponsor.. as im not from England i dont know anything about the company.. whats the problem with them?
    btw i wouldnt even mind seeing a porn-making company being our sponsor as long as they payed us more money than Virgin..

  • 5 Super Magpie // Oct 7, 2012 at 11:33 AM


    They’re a scandalous loan shark company who charge ridiculously high interest rates, and for the fact it’s called Wonga is just embarressing.

  • 6 hdavid23 // Oct 7, 2012 at 11:35 AM

    i see, thanks Super Magpie!

  • 7 bills-son // Oct 7, 2012 at 11:48 AM

    Super Magpie – you say Wonga are a scandalous loan shark company.

    I know where you are coming from but nobody forces people to take out a loan. It’s not as if they knock on doors flogging loans, they advertise and people come to them. And Wonga are so high profile that everybody must know the interest rates are sky high. If their service wasn’t needed by so many people they wouldn’t be as successful as they are.

    I don’t fancy the idea of the Wonga Stadium but hysterical reactions to their line of business are naive in my opinion.

  • 8 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Oct 7, 2012 at 11:49 AM

    As i’ve said many times now, I really dont care win lose or draw, as long as we attack them and give them a good game. We arent good enough yet to just assume we can beat manchester united every time, but if we are near our best, we can give it a hell of a go.

  • 9 Gateshead-Mag // Oct 7, 2012 at 11:53 AM

    aaaaaaagh exited but nervous about today like

    alot of people seem to be writing man utd off, cant see it going the same way as last year like but hope fully we can nick a 2-1 win.

    also the whole wonga thing, ill believe it when i see it, but on twitter a few people (including nufcstats) have said that the deal is for SHIRT SPONSOR ONLY i would be more accepting if this was true, wonga arena would be a travisty

  • 10 geordieracer1980 // Oct 7, 2012 at 11:55 AM

    Really looking forward to the game today. I think the key to our success lies in Hatem Ben Arfa. I really fancy him up against Patrice Evra, who has looked really poor for a good while now. Just run at him, Hatem. Give Ben Arfa the ball as often as we can, as high up the pitch as we can, and he will hurt them.

    I sense a classic.

    3-2 to The Toon.

    Howay the Lads!

  • 11 Gateshead-Mag // Oct 7, 2012 at 11:58 AM

    oooh aye and i think our 2 main men today will be 1) tiote – anyone who’s seen the video on youtube from the game last season will know how important he was keeping rooney out the game

    2) ben arfa a big game from ben arfa could be the key to unlocking there shaky defence

    i would also like to see cabaye keep up the good passing he showed against bordeux midweek


  • 12 OTP // Oct 7, 2012 at 12:01 PM

    Got a good chance today! Ben Arfa v Evra could be very interesting. Wrote up a tactical preview if anyone is interested

  • 13 Novocastrian66 // Oct 7, 2012 at 12:02 PM

    Nowt against Wonga becoming our shirt sponsor. All financial institutions are bunch of thieving bar stewards in my opinion. I draw the line the Wonga Arena though. FFS.

  • 14 archaeomag // Oct 7, 2012 at 12:03 PM

    ST Wonga’s Park – home of football and grinding the faces of the poor –
    Clearly the Japanese Whaling industry could not come up with cash in time.

  • 15 Jail for Ashley // Oct 7, 2012 at 12:04 PM

    Agreed on that,not much in a shirt sponsor at all,not much any mackem or smoggie can say about that,however the wonga arena is a different matter altogether,tbh though I dont think Mashley would be so crass as to do that
    and to be fair it is just a story in a tabloid.

  • 16 Gateshead-Mag // Oct 7, 2012 at 12:06 PM


    japenese whaling industry are tied up in talks to replace jjb at wigan mate, shame like

  • 17 archaeomag // Oct 7, 2012 at 12:08 PM

    I thought Wigan were in negotiations with the Taliban

  • 18 archaeomag // Oct 7, 2012 at 12:09 PM

    . . .and we missed out Venki’s

  • 19 Gateshead-Mag // Oct 7, 2012 at 12:10 PM


    saddam hussein used to go to there away games like so its probably just crossed wires

  • 20 Gateshead-Mag // Oct 7, 2012 at 12:10 PM

    hahaha venkys in the same bracket as the taliban??

  • 21 archaeomag // Oct 7, 2012 at 12:15 PM

    I am just waiting for the fatw? against Howard Webb.
    Interesting question – what was Bin Ladin’s team?

  • 22 archaeomag // Oct 7, 2012 at 12:17 PM

    [I meant – we missed out ‘on’ Venki’s]
    #ironic smiley

  • 23 Super Magpie // Oct 7, 2012 at 12:19 PM

    A good result today would do us the world of good going into the derby. I think at attacking them is the best way to go today. Like Pardew said if you sit back against Man U for 90 minutes you’ll be picked off.

    I think we should go 4-3-3 again this afternoon. We played so much better on Thursday compared to the dire football we’ve played in the past few weeks.

    Simpson Perch Colo (Willo) Santon
    Cabaye Tiote Jonas
    HBA Ba Cisse

    I think cisse did well on the wing on Thursday, better than Ba was. And ofc Ba is on form so he should be through the middle IMO.

    Also I have a sneaky feeling Webb will give them if double stoppage time if they are drawing/losing. Especially after Fergie complaining there wasn’t enough injury time against Spurs. That just takes the P*ss.

  • 24 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 7, 2012 at 12:34 PM

    MMMM….a nicde bucket of taliban chicken….

    So, Wonga does have the word won in it….that’s the most optimistic I can be on the subject, let’s see what happens.

    On to today. Come on lads, so us proud.

    Might crawl back in to bed then….3.5 hours to go, might stand a chance of feeling somewhat human by then. Ibiza closing weekend….whhhhyyy???

  • 25 geordieracer1980 // Oct 7, 2012 at 12:37 PM

    I would like to see young Ferguson start at left back and Santon start on the right hand side of the defense. Lets have a real go at them!

  • 26 dave 1961 // Oct 7, 2012 at 12:45 PM

    i bet bills-son would stick up for Ashly if he was named as the third man in the Jimmy Savile child sex ring, Wonga are loan sharks they prey on the poor and make them poorer with 1000%+ interest rates, and they make the life of these people more difficult, i don’t want my illustrious club associated with loan sharks, i don’t have a problem with Ashly as he would like to make it easier for the poorer fans to get to games, Wonga are no better than the loan sharks that have leached off council estates up and down the country, it is not just morally wrong its repugnant. luckily i have never need loans but i know people that have fallen into poverty by getting into the clutches of these people.

  • 27 Magpies-till-d3ath // Oct 7, 2012 at 12:48 PM

    If it’s Perch and Willo, I’ll kill myself!

  • 28 tequilamag // Oct 7, 2012 at 12:51 PM

    @ Dave well said, this deal;if true this deal stinks. All banks today are self serving parasites who have screwed the economy. Being associated with Virgin was bad enough but this is an all time low.

  • 29 Offkey // Oct 7, 2012 at 12:52 PM

    4214% APR

    Loan £1 for 1 day and repay £6.56.

    Wonga is also famously used by cockneys.


  • 30 tequilamag // Oct 7, 2012 at 12:53 PM

    Magpies till death, really? will you really kill yourself ? Grow up.

  • 31 Gateshead-Mag // Oct 7, 2012 at 12:53 PM

    am i the only one that thought virgin money nwas a good sponsor and looked nice on the tops??


    hair of the dog matey get it down you!!

  • 32 toonbrother // Oct 7, 2012 at 12:54 PM

    Perch and Williamson right now are the two best centre backs we have. Hope they get the nod. I agree Shola Ameobi needs to start ahead of Ba or Cisse. The Ba-Cisse experiment has proven to be a failure. Pardiola needs to accept these two do not complement each other and move on

  • 33 Gateshead-Mag // Oct 7, 2012 at 12:55 PM


    aaaaaaah!! i was all for stade de wonga untill i knew that cockneys used it!!

  • 34 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 7, 2012 at 12:58 PM

    Not those bloody cockneys!!!! Get Ashley out now, I don’t even want to use the same air as the nasty b*st*rds 😉

    Hyphen….My dog isn’t too happy about this hair removal….but if you say so.

    Any injury updates yet? I figure no surprises with Krul. Are we only waiting to see if Colo is back or there a possibility of others?

  • 35 mauritius island // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:04 PM

    Simpson colo Williamson Santon
    Mareaux Tiote Cabaye Gutierrez
    ben arfa
    Subs: Alnwick Bigirimana Shola amoebi Anita Ferguson Perch Cisse

  • 36 magpie6699 // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:06 PM

    Toon! Toon! Black and White Wongas!

  • 37 Gateshead-Mag // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:07 PM

    just to get yous in the mood 🙂

  • 38 mauritius island // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:10 PM

    5 players injured
    R Elliott…Groin/Pelvis Injury … no return date
    S Taylor ….Calf/Shin Injury….. 7th Oct 12 Late Fit Test
    F Coloccini ….Hip/Thigh Injury ….no return date
    T Krul ….Arm/Elbow Injury …..21st Oct 12
    R Taylor …ACL Knee Injury….. Mar 13

  • 39 Gateshead-Mag // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:10 PM


    aparently licking a dog helps you prepare for a big game, or something along those lines, i however will be drinking!!….


    nice use of the word wonga there pal

    why dont we all think of some good wonga chants?? something along the lines of….

    demba sored 1 since ramadan ramadan ramadan…….

    …..but he just cant seem to get a loan no!!!!

    wong wong wong a wong wonga

  • 40 check the toastie // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:13 PM

    The Ba Cisse partnershio is not working as Pardewasaurus continues to play 442 with Jonas and Ben10 as wide men, neither get to the byline and cross, needs to stop playing Jonas it is like playing 2 full backs, If we play Simpson Willo and Perchy together we could be in deep trouble.

    Simmo and Willo will continually give up possession, something we really cant do against Man Utd, would play Anita full back or switch Santon over to RB and give young Fergy a go down the Left hand side.

    Pleased Valencia is out for them, he is pretty warm.

  • 41 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:15 PM

    Hyphen…Alcohol! Why didn’t I think of that?

  • 42 wynsleap // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:17 PM

    You just know that we’ll be known as the w**k**s.
    Does Ashley really despise Toon fans as much as that?
    Bills-son @ 7 – are you related to our owner? – I think we should know.

  • 43 tequilamag // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:18 PM

    Check your starting to sound like Kets. Taylor and Colo are out so Perch and Willo are pretty much the only options. Simmo had a good game on Thur, at least until the transfer window there are no better options at RB.

  • 44 Gateshead-Mag // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:19 PM


    i have an IQ of 63 pal its hard work being this brainful!

  • 45 check the toastie // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:23 PM

    Gateshead – nice link that, how that team never won the league is beyond me, played at such a high tempo, was breathtaking at times, better than Barcelona to watch eh.

    Tequila – Simmo was poor on Thursday, anybody saying anything else is truly blinkered, hesitant and technically inept as normal.

    Also not nice to compare me with Kets, no need to get personal you dick.

  • 46 obatoyou // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:24 PM

    We r gonna win dude ok get that thru ur skull

  • 47 tequilamag // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:27 PM

    Well if you continually make the same inane comments about Willo and Simmo as Kets does you invite the comparisom.
    Simmo was part of the defence that kept a clean sheet against a team that was unbeaten in 17 games and he got an assist for the second goal.
    Hardly evidence he had a bad game.

  • 48 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:27 PM

    Hyphen….63? Got to admit like, feeling a little bit out of my depth here. Sorry for making you endure conversations with me in the past, must have been painful for ya. Thanks though, mighty good of you.

    Wynsleap…..Can I ask then, are you an estranged lover of Ashley’s? W*nk*rs doen’t sound too good mind 🙂

  • 49 Gateshead-Mag // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:27 PM


    i was just a young lad in the nineties, i went on a stadium tour in 1996 which i can still remember, getting ferdinands signature, walking around the ground and that but i cant really remember watching the games

    watching that video the football looked immense (obviously that was a good day like) but its no wonder they were branded ‘the entitainers’

    truly class!!

  • 50 Munster Mag // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:28 PM

    Oh Billson would you ever give it up ffs? If Ashley wanted a company associated with child labour and mass murder associated with NUFC for his miserable 1omill you’d tell us child labour encourages children to learn the value of hard work. Smell the coffee man for God’s sake. And incidentally, every piece of media that I read this week talks about the Sports Direct Arena now, NOT St James’ Park. Just a word of warning – Lansdowne Road was the oldest rugby ground in the worls – Within 2 years it has become the Aviva Stadium, end of.

  • 51 ppb // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:28 PM

    1) this match will hopefully be good.
    2) this wonga deal is bs. if we ditch virgin @10m a year just for shirts and sign up to wonga for shirts & stadium name @8m a year (which is insanely stupid figures). then you’ll have to add me to jespers kia list. that’s how much this is bs

  • 52 Munster Mag // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:32 PM

    I wouldnt be getting too carried away with our win against Bordeaux who apparently threw in the towel early. I reckon 2-2 , with Ba scoring both. Incidentally I read in the Sunday Time today that we play the most long balls in the prem league??

  • 53 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:33 PM

    Munster….But it does teach them a good work ethic. How you feeling about the game today?

  • 54 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:34 PM

    Nevermind then 🙂

  • 55 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:37 PM

    ppb….Doesn’t add up. Let’s hope the whole thing is wrong, rather than just the amounts being quoted. At the end of the day, it’s only sponsorship and shouldn’t be a huge factor. They are associating a company with NUFC though, so it would be nice for it to be a respectable company across our shirts. Not too worried on this one.

    I hope this match is good too.

  • 56 beddersmag // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:40 PM

    Toonbrother. Totally agree its shola and another. Both senegal strikers need a target man to be at the most effective. Exactly why i wanted caroll back- but was shot down in flames.

  • 57 Munster Mag // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:42 PM

    Ibiza, its not about the deal not making sense mate. Its the association with Wonga – you know that. Billson has just lost all credibility here. Re the game, I’m hoping for 2-2. There’s too much confidence about because we beat Bordeaux who apparently didnt lift a leg. If Ben Arfa or Cabaye plays well, they will be Man U starts next season I think , boo hoo.

  • 58 ppb // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:42 PM

    @bedders “we’re past Carroll now” and all that tripe. i said id take Carroll

  • 59 Gateshead-Mag // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:42 PM


    sorry dude didnt want to alienate you by banding about my IQ……AHEM….halfway to mensa……

  • 60 check the toastie // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:42 PM

    Tequila – not really having a go at Willo think he does a decent job for us, however our long ball football as illustrated by Munster Mag, is starting to infuriate, the gap between the front 2 and our midfield has been huge.

    If Ben10 doesnt produce any magic we offer no service barring punts for the front two, Pards needs to have a little think about how he is setting up his team, only selection i was impressed with this season was away to Everton and unfortunately Marveaux played like Louis Spence.

  • 61 beddersmag // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:46 PM

    Ppb. Might see him back next year. In the meantime pleased to see shola at his best. I have slated him in the past but actually looking the part now i have to say

  • 62 check the toastie // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:47 PM

    Bedders – i know i will probably be in the minority of 1 with this but i would actually swap Ba with Carroll in January if Slitherpool fancied the deal, the way we play would be served better with Big Andy and Cisse up top, in fact i think they would be devastating. It would be like getting Carroll back for free.

    Ba wants more money and his head will be continually turned.

  • 63 Gateshead-Mag // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:47 PM

    willos long balls really infuriate me, if it wasnt for that i could get away with him, honestly man its unreal how many times we turn over possesion when he hoofs it

    surely pards and co should have had a word with him by now, just play a simple ball along the deck, perch is a prime example of this and thats why i like him through the middle

  • 64 Ben-Arfa11 // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:48 PM

    hi lads i just put 5 quid on ben-arfa to score the 1st goal at 12/1

    i was going to do cisse but i got a funny feeling he might be on bench today as this is ameobis kinda game.

    do you think ben-arfa bet is wise or stupid love your opinions 😛

    also think ben-arfa might be our penalty taker to as his penalty against spurs was pretty impressive cisse wont ever get a penalty again and ba missed one against sunderland last season i think ben-arfa is the coolest man on the pitch and would relish penaltys.

    12-1 looks great odds

  • 65 Gateshead-Mag // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:49 PM


    not going to start another carrol debate as i accidently stumbled into one yestaday 🙂

    but id like carrol back but keep double demba, hed play well along side either of them

  • 66 wynsleap // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:50 PM

    Ibizatoon @ 48 No I am just a moral, decent supporter who happens to think the club I have supported for well over 50 years doesn’t deserve to have it’s long standing reputation and heritage continually besmirched by an uncaring, nasty, thoughtless, unscrupulous entrepreneur.

  • 67 toonbrother // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:52 PM

    shane ferguson gave the ball away more often than simpson on thursday from what i recall. . Simpson is one of the most underrated players NUFC has imho

  • 68 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:52 PM

    Munster….I do get that, I was just playing. That will come with any great players that come from the toon. There are clubs who win more and can offer more money. We need a way forward to try and bridge the gap, that’s not going to happen by throwing lots of money at it, not for the minute anyway, we’re planning on doing it somewhat slowly. No club can keep all it’s top players.

    Right. Get some errands to run before kick off. Have a good one lads and lasses and all you readers out there.

    Come on Pardew and Co, let’s pull out the stops today, your fans become restless! HWTL

  • 69 Gateshead-Mag // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:52 PM


    looks a good bet mate, id go for it myself but trying to limit the bets im putting on, already had bets this weekend that havnt come off 🙁

  • 70 Munster Mag // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:52 PM

    Just to make that point again, the Sunday Times stats say we play the most long balls – surely a team like Stoke or West Ham play more. Maybe I have misinterpreted ? “Newcastle top the stats for long balls, which tend to be focused and accurate” . Newcastle are also the worst in the prem for “interceptions” …ie breaking up others teams attacking play , by having the right men in the right places. Interesting.

  • 71 ToonDownSouth // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:52 PM


    I agree with everything you’ve said there, but I find it hard to imagine losing Ba when he’s in such good form 🙁

    The thing is, if we raised his wages to put him alongside our top earners – would he then want even more money and still constantly manoveur for a move? After all, if we give him £70k a week, that’s still nowehere near what he’d get at som other clubs.

  • 72 check the toastie // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:53 PM

    Perch has been a revelation at Centre Back, have no worries with him playing at all, just wish he was playing next to Saylor this afternoon.

    Willo when isolated can look so awkward its unreal, however he does a job of heading balls away, so he is needed for sure, hes done well for a portsmouth reserve eh.

  • 73 Munster Mag // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:54 PM

    Ibiza, please dont start accepting this Wonga thing for the money. I’ll lose all respect for you mate.

  • 74 boater // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:55 PM

    Anyone who knows me knows I’m Shola’s biggest fan – but I still don’t think we should write off the Cisse/Ba partnership. They are both prolific natural goalscorers and it’s a question of finding the system and players around them to make sure it works.

    When we go 4-4-2 we play without natural ‘get to the byline’ wingers – and fullbacks who are unable to cross the ball on their natural side/foot. Add to that, the lack of box-to-box support from midfield with Cabaye’s summer holiday having lasted until the end of September and every other CM sitting deep.

    If we played Obertan and/or Fergie – there is much more chance of it working. Plus it helps now Cabaye is starting to cover more ground.

    Still think 4-3-1-2 is worth trying with Arfa behind. But SHola off the bench today for me – hardly a surprise as even Taggart thinks he will play.

  • 75 Jail for Ashley // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:55 PM

    Are you going up there today ?I managed to get three tickets in the Gallowgate.

  • 76 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:56 PM

    Wynsleap….I do hope you realise I was only playing on what you said and wasn’t trying to be offensive. It is possible that Bills-son believes what he says without being a family member of Ashleys, he too, should be allowed to do so and still be a moral and decent supporter. Just opinions mate, we’re all entitled to them (unfortunately).

  • 77 Gateshead-Mag // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:59 PM

    will be interesting to see the attendance today, should be a sell-out surely,

    but then should really be a sell out every week

  • 78 boater // Oct 7, 2012 at 1:59 PM

    Ben – Arfa .. Shola is the penalty taker when he’s on the pitch – best all time record in the premiership – as only player to take more than 10 and score every one – or summit like that.

    I always wait for the team sheet before placing a bet. But the parallels with last season are tempting – Man u losing 2-3 before coming up here.. 3-0 again? we’ll probably get a backlash spanking off them though – just hope we can put up a bit of fight.. first goal is everything today despite what Pards says.

  • 79 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 7, 2012 at 2:00 PM

    Munster…..I don’t think I said I was falling for it and am off for now, but will check it later (I very may well have said I think it’s a great idea – heads really not at it’s best yet. Coffee and Vodka chasers isn’t sorting this one out). On the respect issue, where are we starting now, so I know how much respect I risk losing? I hope the humour alert comes up with that last bit.

    Hyphen….I shall leave you and your superior intellect to handle any discussions I am involved with on my behalf as I must leave.

    Please note I take no responsibility for anything Hyphen says.

  • 80 ppb // Oct 7, 2012 at 2:02 PM

    @bedders shola is looking like an early/mid 20s heskey (this is a compliment) super strong. great laying off. the odd goal.

  • 81 JP...from The Rock // Oct 7, 2012 at 2:02 PM

    Tiote had better be on fire today and on the ball. Too many times he has got daydreaming on the ball and got us into serious trouble. I love the guy but we do overrate him at times. He has not played brilliantly like he did most of last season yet but is getting there. He needs to be more sharp, responsive and cool and accurate in the pass. Man U pick off any loose balls and it could really hurt us. If Tiote’s on the ball today then we have a great chance of winning.

    I hope Cisse scores today so he can kick start his season.

    2-1 for us,We can do it! 🙂


  • 82 Gateshead-Mag // Oct 7, 2012 at 2:03 PM


    mate a couldn’t deal with all your fan mail 🙂

    nice disclaimer though

  • 83 Rowan Milsted // Oct 7, 2012 at 2:05 PM

    Well, Perchino and Willo at CB… Hmm… need big games from them. They’ve done it before so no reason why they can’t do it this afternoon. I much prefer Perch at CDM or RB but we’ll have to make do. I can see the merit in playing Shola, he could bully their defence and give vital link up to Ba, but Cisse has been starting to hit form lately so it’s important he plays some part at least. Got to reward strikers when they score goals. I’m looking to the middle of the park today, I think if we’re going to win then Tiote and Cabaye will have a big part to play. Really need those guys on top form. Looks like I’ll be watching the game on my own so if I never post on here again assume I’m dead.

  • 84 check the toastie // Oct 7, 2012 at 2:07 PM

    Not going up Jail, having an easy day, out at Redcar races all day yesterday, cant have everything, enjoy, atmosphere should be good, dont get too wound up with Simmo 🙂

  • 85 Gateshead-Mag // Oct 7, 2012 at 2:17 PM

    rowan milsted… dead

    il remember that because it rhymes

  • 86 bills-son // Oct 7, 2012 at 2:21 PM

    Munster Mag, Wynsleap and the other hysterical posters – it’s not me who should smell the coffee its you. If you want to rant on about Wonga then don’t shop at Primark or any of the other high street retailers who use sweat shop foreign labour – don’t eat factory reared chickens etc., etc., etc., – if you do you are hypocrites.

    Why don’t you just read what I write instead of jumping on the ‘bills loves Ashley’ bandwagon? I don’t want Wonga as a sponsor, I don’t want the Wonga stadium, but it won’t stop me supporting the Toon or going to SJP. My ‘Ashley loving’ reputation comes from the fact that I was one of the few fans on here not to get caught up in the hysterical infantile Ashley hatred after relegation, sacking CH and selling AC. I said the guy had a plan to take the club forward and got ridiculed for it – it just sticks in the craw for some on here that I was right. I don’t agree with everything Ashley does, but since relegation he has hardly done a thing wrong. Any fan who thinks the opposite is allowing hatred to get in the way of commsense.

  • 87 ppb // Oct 7, 2012 at 2:29 PM

    @bills which is exactly the reason i think this wonga thing is bull. especially the figures

  • 88 bills-son // Oct 7, 2012 at 2:30 PM

    dave 1961 // Oct 7, 2012 at 12:45 PM – i bet bills-son would stick up for Ashly if he was named as the third man in the Jimmy Savile child sex ring.

    dave1961 – Does being that stupid come naturally or do you have to work at it?

  • 89 tequilamag // Oct 7, 2012 at 2:30 PM

    bills-son, I dont hate Ashley but I think associating the club with loan sharks is ethically wrong, I also dont shop at Primark or eat factory farmed animals. I actually run a business selling ethically sourced organic products.
    Seriously where do you draw the line on this one. Wonga and companies like them contribute to the misery of millions of people in this country.

  • 90 ppb // Oct 7, 2012 at 2:35 PM

    @tequila i think that’s bills point he’s not supporting wonga just saying not to jump down ashleys throat. especially when its not even confirmed

  • 91 Munster Mag // Oct 7, 2012 at 2:36 PM

    Billson, dont be ridiculous. There is nothing “hysterical” in any of my postings. I ( apparently like you ? You must have changed ytune from earlier ) do not want Wonga associated with NUFC. End of. And amount of lilly livered nonsense from you or anyone else will change this. You can defend Ashley all you like with your ” people dont have to take out the loans” but dont expect the rest of us to buy it. And please, linking factory chickens with loan sharking is infantile, if you want to use the word. Go shake your head man – you know I respect much of what Ashley has done at the club, and you also know where and how I question some of the things he’s done. “People dont have to take out loans” ? Please man, dont insult us or expect to be taken seriously with that type of defence.

  • 92 obatoyou // Oct 7, 2012 at 2:38 PM

    Lol I been bettin Ben arfa to score for a while but to no avail hell scOre again sooner or later I spose, work is buzzin for the game tonight Newcastle at $4 here in australia didnt take the bet but tipped em in the tipping comp, enjoy yourselves guys we don’t beat em often

  • 93 ppb // Oct 7, 2012 at 2:44 PM

    @munster i agree with all you say there. bills comparisons aren’t great and i don’t think you’re hysterical. i think he’s just making the comparisons that there are other ethical grey areas that people ignore but will happily jump on the wonga hatewagon now

  • 94 bills-son // Oct 7, 2012 at 2:45 PM

    ppb @ 90. Exactly.

    tequilamag – Wonga and companies like them contribute to the misery of millions of people in this country.

    Without getting into a full political debate, I totally disagree with that statement. Is it Wonga’s fault that these people need loans? No. Do Wonga provide a short term loan service that 10s of 1000s will have been grateful for? Yes. Wonga advertise their loans, advertise their interest rates and leave people to contact them if they are interested. Sweeping statements that they are loan sharks taking advantage of the poor is actually patronisingly insulting to the vast majority of people who use their service.

  • 95 WWYCD // Oct 7, 2012 at 2:46 PM

    In the current climate not sure we could be picky about who sponsors us, end of the day highest bidder will get the deal regardless of what business it is

  • 96 mattyNUFC // Oct 7, 2012 at 2:47 PM


    My my my!!! Never thought I’d hear you say we’ve lost before we’ve already won with perch and will0

    honestly i don’t feel goot about willo starting either. I think therein lies our potential downfall if the rest of the team is sorted how 99% of us want to it (433/4231, with the right players of course)

    I have absolute confidence in Perch. He seems to have taken a cue out of captain colo’s book when it comes to timing his interceptions. he can be the rock we need. willo i have serious reservations about though, especially after watching welbeck give him a new a**hole about four times in that second half in the capital one cup

    voted for a win. hoping for a win. would be happy with a loss and good account of ourselves and the football we want to see played

  • 97 mattyNUFC // Oct 7, 2012 at 2:48 PM

    already played*

  • 98 tequilamag // Oct 7, 2012 at 2:52 PM

    bills-son with all due respect I have to disagree, the people who take loans with companies like Wonga dont do it because they think Wonga are offering a fair service, they do it because they are desperate to pay bills and all other forms of credit at reasonable rates are denied them. By charging extotrionate rates of interest they are exploiting the poorest members of society. Dress it up anyway you like but they are loan sharks.

  • 99 bills-son // Oct 7, 2012 at 2:52 PM

    Munster Mag – “People dont have to take out loans” ? Please man, dont insult us or expect to be taken seriously with that type of defence.

    Munster, you seem incapable of understanding that nobody at Wonga forces anybody into a situation where they need a loan nor do they force anybody to contact them and take out a loan. What point are you trying to make??

  • 100 Munster Mag // Oct 7, 2012 at 2:53 PM

    Billson, you’re at it again. One minute you say ( and I quote ) ” I dont want Wonga ” ,and the next minute you patronise us by telling us that people shouldnt take out loans etc. My oh my. Next you’ll be telling me that Wonga are society’s knights in shining armour. Look, its not a good association for the club – why dont you just be man enough to say that, instead of trying to justify a link that most of us really dont want on the basis of your love for Ashley. At the end of the day, if we are going to sell our name of such heritage, lets do better than an outfit like Wonga.

  • 101 Mister Tuff // Oct 7, 2012 at 2:55 PM

    Ref Wonga –some good moral issues being explored here. I personally think they are unscrupulous loan sharks (there are others) who get their massive profits from poor people –who usually do not have the options to get loans elsewhere. Wonga believe their client base are mainly middle-class professionals –what a load of tosh. They were warned at the beginning of the year to shape up their client checking under the threat of losing their credit licence. They are currently sponsoring Blackpool and Hearts – shirt sponsorship. I think they should not be associated with our club – I do not like where their money comes from.
    Bills son makes a relevant point about where we all shop on the High Street and sweat shops –perhaps we should all question ourselves about where our purchases come from. Having said that it is much easier to criticise other people when we hear about THEIR own dodgy dealing as opposed to our own.
    Wonga’s money comes from the poorest people in our society –using it to support/finance our club would be immoral.

  • 102 ppb // Oct 7, 2012 at 2:58 PM

    @tequila true it is exploitative. i have a totally shot credit rating and have been in a situation where i could only just pay rent. i could barely afford to eat and my gas, electric, council tax and water bills mounted. that was 4 years ago and im only just in the clear.
    still i would never have taken a pay day loan. id rather go to court than be taken for such a ride. wonga rely on desperation. people need to see through that.

  • 103 WWYCD // Oct 7, 2012 at 2:59 PM

    Companies like Wonga do not hold the best ethical standards but neither are they doing anything illegal it boils down to personal opinions on them

    Personally if they drop a significant amount of money into NUFCs transfer budgets, youth set up and every day bills am pretty happy, I may not agree with the company but if they have the cash then so be it

  • 104 Munster Mag // Oct 7, 2012 at 3:01 PM

    I agree Tuff, and its completely unnecessary. Could you see a club like Liverpool, with the respect they have for their traditions, renaming Anfield as Wonga, and taking their money. Where does all this money grabbing dressed up as intelligent commercialism stop? I’ve never agreed with the renaming of the stadium ( and it doesnt appear that top sponsors want to play either ) but playing like Wonga makes me think its April 1st.

  • 105 roshan MAGPIE // Oct 7, 2012 at 3:01 PM


  • 106 Gateshead-Mag // Oct 7, 2012 at 3:02 PM

    completely agree with wwycd

    munster mag i think your being a bit harsh on bills son like, each to their own

    personally if there gunna pay top dollar to sponsor our shirts then fine, the stadium on the other hand will be a bigger bullet to bite but it will be ashley that i will be angry with if that happens.

    wonga arena would be ridiculas!!

  • 107 mattyNUFC // Oct 7, 2012 at 3:03 PM

    why is bills-son just dead set on blog division?

    any one thing you say cannot be said without at least a tinge of divisiveness

    lets get back to that very important match we have IN LESS THAN AN HOUR!!


  • 108 mattnufc // Oct 7, 2012 at 3:03 PM

    Harper; Santon, Williamson, Perch, Ferguson; Ben Arfa, Cabaye, Tiote, Gutierrez (c); Ba, Cisse.

  • 109 mattyNUFC // Oct 7, 2012 at 3:04 PM

    Newcastle United (4-4-2): Steve Harper; David Santon, Mike Williamson, James Perch, Shane Ferguson; Hatem Ben Arfa, Cheick Tiote, Yohan Cabaye, Jonas Gutierrez; Demba Ba, Papiss Cisse
    Substitutes: Jak Alnwick, Danny Simpson, Vurnon Anita, Gael Bigirimana, Gabriel Obertan, Sammy Ameobi, Shola Ameobi

    like santon at RB

    don’t like 442 though. ugh

  • 110 Gateshead-Mag // Oct 7, 2012 at 3:04 PM

    NUFC team : Harper, Santon, Williamson, Perch, Ferguson, Ben Arfa, Cabaye, Tiote, Gutierrez (c); Ba, Cisse #nufc

    signal of intent get inn!!!

    now we can all judge for our selves wether santon will be suited at rb

  • 111 roshan MAGPIE // Oct 7, 2012 at 3:05 PM


  • 112 tequilamag // Oct 7, 2012 at 3:05 PM

    ppb you and me both mate but a lot of people are so desperate that they do resort to taking loans with these people. From an ethical standpoint I don`t want my club to be associated with loansharks.

  • 113 mattyNUFC // Oct 7, 2012 at 3:05 PM

    now it’s up to fergie to pick up jonas’ slack on the left

    either jonas plays like he hasn’t in a year or so, or fergie has a hell of a game overlapping and letting jonas stay back

  • 114 NUFC STEVE // Oct 7, 2012 at 3:05 PM

    Would love to see this team
    Simmo collo saylor santo
    Anita tiote cab obertan

  • 115 WWYCD // Oct 7, 2012 at 3:05 PM

    Pardew has gone all Keagan on us can’t defend so don’t defend just bloody attack

  • 116 Munster Mag // Oct 7, 2012 at 3:06 PM

    Good to see Ferguson given a chance. We could have rean enery on the left now, but i hope Santon starts learnin to mark his man and get closer to wingers soon. Does that look like a 4-3-3 ?

  • 117 ppb // Oct 7, 2012 at 3:06 PM

    @matty 442 with decent fbs going forward though!

  • 118 Gateshead-Mag // Oct 7, 2012 at 3:06 PM

    marveux not even on bench

    really rate this lad ability shame he looks like hes going to flop here

    hopefully sammy gets his shot

  • 119 Munster Mag // Oct 7, 2012 at 3:08 PM

    Sorry, I misred that . Santon at right back? I’ve been hoping that would happen for a while so now I get the chance to show that I know sod all about football! 🙂 Get stuck into them lads, high tempo, controlled aggression ( especially from you, Mr T ) !

  • 120 bills-son // Oct 7, 2012 at 3:13 PM

    Munster Mag – you really want to learn to read. I said right from the start that I don’t want Wonga as a sponsor and I’ve repeated it twice. Why don’t you read my posts ffs?

    Not wanting them as a sponsor doesn’t mean I can’t pass an opinion on Wonga. The fact that you seem incapable of distinguishing between the two issues is your problem not mine.

  • 121 bills-son // Oct 7, 2012 at 3:16 PM

    Ben Arfa and Santon down the right? Willo and Perch in the middle?

    I’ll go for a 0.0.

  • 122 ppb // Oct 7, 2012 at 3:20 PM

    @tequila while i don’t agree that “people shouldn’t get loans from them” is the solution. its pretty clear that its a combo of desperation naiveté and stupidity

  • 123 Cool Hand Luke // Oct 7, 2012 at 3:21 PM

    Tequilamag, i’m with you mate. The rates wonga chare beggar belief! I’m surprised its even legal to charge that much. £125 interest on a £400 loan over a month is profiteering from those who can least afford it, and in my book thats inexcuasble. I wouldnt want NUFC to have anything to do with them.

  • 124 tequilamag // Oct 7, 2012 at 3:22 PM

    ppb agreed

  • 125 Munster Mag // Oct 7, 2012 at 3:23 PM

    Billson, man up will you and stop weasling out. You have defended the link from the start saying people dont need loans, and Wonga are high profile. Stop being naive and defending Ashleys flawed judgement. Just make a stand – if you dont want NUFC to be associated with Wonga – just be big enough to admit that it doesnt look like a good idea, and stop talking out the side of your mouth about people needing loans, not being forced to take out loans etc The link is not a good one, end of, and move on. If we want money lenders, I think we’d all defend a link with a reputable bank, not this shower at Wonga. Thats my last word on it Billson.

  • 126 tequilamag // Oct 7, 2012 at 3:37 PM

    CHL cheers

  • 127 beefman13 // Oct 7, 2012 at 3:56 PM

    Chances are going to be created for sure at both ends, willo and perch is not ideal but what can you do, i know they give their best, thiught if he was going to play jonas he would be on the left to help out fergie but hes put him on the right by the looks of it, its a tough game without a shadow, its down to who take their chances. ps would still like to see santon rather than simpson on the right, just my preference if he is going to play fergie on the left.

  • 128 stk85 // Oct 7, 2012 at 4:12 PM

    why are we playing a dinosaurus 442…. again?!

    it doesnt work. get jonas in a 3 man mid w tiote and cabs and get benny up from with cisse n ba

  • 129 stk85 // Oct 7, 2012 at 4:14 PM

    we are gonna get slaughtered here

  • 130 stk85 // Oct 7, 2012 at 4:16 PM

    and since all this news about Wonga i have just started to notice how bad the Sports Direct advertising is. cannot stand if wonga get the deal

  • 131 stk85 // Oct 7, 2012 at 4:17 PM

    this is appalling. did we work on anything in training during the week?

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