Pardew – Everything Was Going Against Us


To concede goals from set plays is never very good for any side, since the lads practice defending corners and free kicks every week in training,  but the two goals in the first 16 minutes yesterday were both from corners, and Jonny Evans and Patrice Evra were there to head the ball home almost unchallenged.

Alan Pardew – disappointed with defending

And every corner that came over in that first half seemed to spell danger for Newcastle, and of course it could have been a lot worse than 2-0 at the half – so we were even a bit lucky in that first 45 minutes.

This is what Alan said about that today to the local press:

“As organised as we are and the work we put in, we are gutted with the two goals.” “They were two set-plays. It’s not like it was magical football.”

“They were two great deliveries but we should still defend better.” “For us it was a disappointing start.” “But you have to hold your hands up sometimes because they were on fire.”

“Three or four decisions may have given us a release from the pressure but they never came our way.” “We seemed to lose a few decisions. Everything was going against us.”

It was simply a bad day at the office and we cannot have the same thing happen at the Stadium of Light, and we have to get a result there in our next game a week come Sunday.

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163 comments so far

  • indian

    Oct 8, 2012 at 11:11 AM

    Comment #1

    don’t moan alan .chelsea had 3 penalties turned down , and yet they scored 4, im not comparing US… just that we need to work and show results!

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  • Munster Mag

    Oct 8, 2012 at 11:14 AM

    Comment #2

    If Sunderland beat us by two goals or more, God forbid, I think the decision to award an 8 yr contract ( albeit full of holes I’m sure ) is going to start to look like a PR stunt. I think Oards has real problems in terms of knowing what his best team is, and what the best formation is. I’m pretty sure he must be wondering if Ashkey now sees the error of his approach to transfers in the summer. We had a Forest reject and an ex Portsmouth player at centre halves yesterday, against Man U. One also has to wonder why he put Fergie at left back, against such a strong team. Perhaps he thought they would lack width and Fergie could attack? It looked dubious beforehand to many of us.

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  • jesperfuglsang

    Oct 8, 2012 at 11:22 AM

    Comment #3

    Munster… you might be right. As much as I like Pardew – and he has might support – not no tactician and he never seem to have a plan B 🙁

    He has lots of other qualities; I just hope he will learn tactically and simply just ‘kill his darlings’!

    It is up to the silver supremo to turn it around and show us all that last season was not a one time thing!

    But then again it is safe for me on the sofa and everything is easier in hinsight B-)

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  • Transfer Sage

    Oct 8, 2012 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #4

    For me nothing really went against us.

    We poorly defended two set plays and cisses effort was correctly not given.

    Also if the Two chances that fell to wellbeck were Rooney or van persie they would have been goals.

    For me the problem is the team has started slow on every game this season.
    We don’t usually get going til the 2nd half or until we concede.

    This Is the main issue which needs to be addressed.

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    Oct 8, 2012 at 11:23 AM

    Comment #5

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  • jesperfuglsang

    Oct 8, 2012 at 11:26 AM

    Comment #6

    *might = my

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  • t00ntime

    Oct 8, 2012 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #7

    Lol no plan b? After the second goal he changed our formation and tactics, that is plan b it just didnt work.

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  • Ruddy Marveaux-lous

    Oct 8, 2012 at 11:30 AM

    Comment #8

    Not a good sign when the manager starts getting defensive and blaming external things.

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  • newcben

    Oct 8, 2012 at 11:32 AM

    Comment #9

    I’m not jumping on the band wagon and changing my tune because of this result my opinion would be the same even if we beat Man U 3-0. I don’t rate Pardew as a manager with the team we have we finished probably in the right place last season give or take a position up or down. I feel his tactics and changes during a game don’t work very much.
    That is my opinion and I know there are some who love Pardew and I respect that opinion as well.

    That a side I feel like maybe we are selecting a team on names rather than form, similar to how England work. I think Shola deserves a start instead of Cisse personally, him and Ba work well together and Cisse needs a kick up his arse…..I was worried last season maybe a one season wonder, everyone hits a dip in form its just the goals he was scoring and the sitters he was missing last season which made me worry.

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  • ash1001

    Oct 8, 2012 at 11:33 AM

    Comment #10

    Maybe we should practice corners etc against a group of players that have something to prove, not players from your own squad.
    We are simply not good enough at defending corners nor getting anything from them when we have a corner, we only have one player that will attack a corner and thats Steven Taylor, so when it comes to practising defending corners hes one of the defenders not one of the attackers. The rest have no idea how to attack the opposition when we have a corner, most stand static. Willo getting outjumped by Evra says it all.

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  • WWYCD

    Oct 8, 2012 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #11

    Anyone remember last season when Pards was the best thing going for NUFC, won some awards for such silly things, now he’s in danger of the world turning on him

    And people say football fans are fickle 🙂

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  • jesperfuglsang

    Oct 8, 2012 at 11:34 AM

    Comment #12

    …well that is implied!

    You need to be able to make changes that matter (this will of cause not always be the case).

    And you need to get your tactics right so you don’t need a plan b already in the first half.

    We don’t need to agree, but it what I choice to believe 🙂

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  • newcben

    Oct 8, 2012 at 11:36 AM

    Comment #13

    Also do you think we are good enough to play the same formation Man U player…Narrow but using our attacking full backs for width? Would mean one of the two strikers would need to put a shift in just like Rooney does for utd!

    Something like:

    —————–Krul—————-
    Santon–Colo—-STaylor–Jonas
    —————Tiote—————–
    ——–Anita——-Cabaye——–
    ————–HBA——————
    —–Shola———–Ba————-

    Probs not the best time to experiment against the mackems but could suit our creative players having the ball on the deck more than hoofing it long. I don’t know just a thought.

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  • alex84

    Oct 8, 2012 at 11:38 AM

    Comment #14

    Pards has done well, it doesn’t help when the board above you control the transfers and not backing Pards with defenders where we needed to strengthen is not his fault,

    What his is fault is not playing the right system that suits our best players, cabaye needs to be in a 3 man midfield with Tiote and Anita, Ba, cisse and Benny as a 3, it worked everytime last year, he is only changed it to please Ba who hates playing left forward.

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  • jesperfuglsang

    Oct 8, 2012 at 11:38 AM

    Comment #15

    WWYCD…it is only human to make mistakes and to have flaws…Pardew is human, but it is also he responsibility (that was his choice)!

    …not everything he does is right and the important thing is he learns from his mistakes. He will be judge on that and so should he be.

    How else would you want it?

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  • Made a ma beed

    Oct 8, 2012 at 11:44 AM

    Comment #16

    Top and bottom of it is, we have needed another top quality CB for 2 years now. It costs us on a number of occasions this year and last. Norwich as a prime example. It is supposed to be a business,if machines were broken down on a packaging plant they would have back up machines or replacements. They just would not stop production!

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  • cadete

    Oct 8, 2012 at 11:47 AM

    Comment #17

    For me it’s simple, we need at least 1 centre half and a decent left winger, and only play ba or cisse because they simply cannot play together

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  • WWYCD

    Oct 8, 2012 at 11:49 AM

    Comment #18

    Jesper
    I agree but some are asking for his head again and suddenly everyone always thought he was poor. He is going to make mistakes more so than more established managers but hey even Ferguson makes mistakes sometimes

    He’s one of the better managers NUFC has had and we aren’t going to be getting better anytime soon. Happy to work under very tough circumstances and takes all the sh*t he gets with a smile.

    Currently his best players are out injured or out of form and thus far we have lost 3 games 1 to the champions of Europe and the other two to the biggest club in England whilst all this has been going on (not to mention him being left out to dry again during the transfer window in regards to incoming players)

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  • mattyNUFC

    Oct 8, 2012 at 11:55 AM

    Comment #19

    jesper

    if you don’t think he’s good with tactics and not having a plan b, what exactly are his other qualities you speak of? because, as far as i’m concerned, those are the most paramount facets of his very very well-paid job

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  • mattyNUFC

    Oct 8, 2012 at 12:00 PM

    Comment #20

    WWYCD

    i think a lot of people haven’t liked him…..others, like me, just aren’t usually as vocal about it

    don’t get me wrong, you may see me crawl back into my whole, it doesn’t mean that i feel to the contrary suddenly. of course he could always prove me wrong but he hasn’t since he’s been here. i just don’t think he’s the right person to get this team right. we have an incredibly talented group of players, more talented than probably any in the past decade, and he has yet to find anything resembling a winning formula. for most of us who don’t like pardew, our form this year is simply a continuation of our form last year. we hardly played like a top 5 team this year and, with pardew’s managerial limitations and hesitancies, i think a top half will be an accomplishment this year

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  • darrenfletcher88

    Oct 8, 2012 at 12:01 PM

    Comment #21

    Total garage!!

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  • mattyNUFC

    Oct 8, 2012 at 12:01 PM

    Comment #22

    hole*, of course

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  • jesperfuglsang

    Oct 8, 2012 at 12:02 PM

    Comment #23

    YO…tatally agree with you there. Truth is we will never rid ourselves of those people who can never be satisfied and will never be happy 🙁

    I all for Pardew and actually think he works wonders with what he’s got and what Mike gives him…still think there is room for improvement.

    But the silver supremo is in charge and therefor it his his responsibility to turn ir around 🙂

    My only beef with Pardew is he has to learn to ‘kill his darlings’. He is so sure of his own ideas that he trips over them at times.

    This seems to concure with past reference to him (Pardew has a strong opinion about football)

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  • catchy in norway

    Oct 8, 2012 at 12:03 PM

    Comment #24

    WWYCD

    why are you hiding behind the injury excuse???

    with or without the injuries, we have no style of playing football,,,

    playeers do not no what possition they are ment to be playing in because pards changes the system for every match and plays them all over the place

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  • catchy in norway

    Oct 8, 2012 at 12:05 PM

    Comment #25

    sorry for this re post
    can anyone of the pro ashley pardew camp answer this

    is an 8 year deal really stability?? he can get fired tomorrow, he can leave tomorrow,? how is that stability ???

    stability to me is knowing what your supposed to be doing and doing it well, everybody comfertable in there abilities and what they have to do,,,

    well sorry, our club is far from stable on the playing side of things, none of our players seem to know where there ment to be,
    stability is playing your best players in there best positions and give them the confidence to say you can beat him (the player in front of him)

    our players play in so many different positions now they seem lost out there,

    my point, jonas, is he a right back left back DMC AMC left winger
    is fergy a left winger or left back?
    anita, right back or DMC
    obertan left wing right wing forward
    santon left back or right back
    BA forward or left winger
    cabaye DMC or AMC
    HBA right or left or attacking MF
    perch CB RB DMC

    you can not tell me this is stability, during any match these changes happen regular,,

    we defend against teams like reading at home ??? why

    last season, jonas started left wing and protected raylor, yesterday he let evens go for his goal and offerd no protection for fergy, then fergy got subed and jonas went to left back where he looked much better,, why not start with him there first, and fergy LW, feed him the ball and say cross the ball as much as you can,, we where expecting ferg to run from left back to cross ,,,

    for me pardew needs to look in the morror, stop picking his friends and trying to fit them in a team, even when we beat man u last year.. it wasnt good football. it was long ball football,

    we just dont play what i call football

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  • jesperfuglsang

    Oct 8, 2012 at 12:06 PM

    Comment #26

    * okay I need to change to my laptop…this is just not working 🙁

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  • WWYCD

    Oct 8, 2012 at 12:07 PM

    Comment #27

    Matty
    If that’s ur opinion why hide it? If u think Pards is poor state it when we are winning, losing or drawing.

    Have to question if he has been unable to find anything resembling a winning formula how do u explain last season? Unbeaten run, 6 wins on the bounce and a 5th finish all sounds pretty good to me. He’s not the best manager in the world but he’s the best we are gonna get under MA and tbf he may well learn and grow into being a great manager but for now we have to be alright with having a good manager

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  • Ketsbaia9

    Oct 8, 2012 at 12:10 PM

    Comment #28

    There’s too many problems at the club at the moment. It will lead to the sacking of Pardew. We’ll get beat by teams like Fulham, Wigan, Liverpool etc this season. We’ve been found out.

    If teams want to beat us, they just need to exploit our weaknesses.

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  • boater

    Oct 8, 2012 at 12:12 PM

    Comment #29

    Oh no. It’s going to be a long two weeks on here with the mob out for blood. We lost to one of the best teams in Europe for the past 20 years. Wins against Man U cannot be expected every season and they require a lot of luck to make up the gap in quality between us and them – we didn’t get it.

    Pardew is experimenting – maybe not the best game to switch the fullbacks around but he didn’t play Simpson – which you all seemed to think was his biggest downfall. Poor Pardew – he cannot win, how could he be so stupid? So many moaning minnies watching Saudi Arabian streams with their little fantasy teamsheets – and he doesn’t pick exactly your favourite players.. ah booo booo.

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  • mattyNUFC

    Oct 8, 2012 at 12:13 PM

    Comment #30

    wwycd

    i do

    …..

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  • WWYCD

    Oct 8, 2012 at 12:15 PM

    Comment #31

    Jesper
    Glad we agree haha
    Am sure he has taken responsibilty in his head but not much point coming out and saying ‘I was wrong and my players were pathetic’ in public. As for him being full of himself and his ideas if he doesn’t fully believe in them the players won’t plus ur right he has always been cocky and up himself but name a manger who isn’t 🙂

    Catchy
    So our injuries haven’t affected our team?

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  • catchy in norway

    Oct 8, 2012 at 12:16 PM

    Comment #32

    boater

    please answer my question no 25,, you have the answers dont you,,

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  • WWYCD

    Oct 8, 2012 at 12:17 PM

    Comment #33

    Matty
    Mate u just said u might well crawl back into ur hole

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  • mattyNUFC

    Oct 8, 2012 at 12:18 PM

    Comment #34

    …im just not as vociferous as say catchy

    im just not negative by nature but i do strive for excellence, expect the best and that includes both effort and delivery, and in order for all those things to take place you have to have a clear plan, with the right leader, and i don’t think it’s pards

    i’m all for MA’s plan, i just don’t think pards can carry it out. yes, we have to work within very strict confines, and we should’ve strengthened our defence but do the best with what you have. what we have is still well above average and he’s not doing that! at all! in any sense!

    you seem to be pretty open-minded wwycd, but a loss at sunderland with a poor performance would be crippling both for the players and the fans. it’d be hard to pull out of that one

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  • catchy in norway

    Oct 8, 2012 at 12:18 PM

    Comment #35

    WWW

    im sure they have,,

    but can that explain why we have played poor in every game so far

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  • mattyNUFC

    Oct 8, 2012 at 12:19 PM

    Comment #36

    ….and no thanks, im fine

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  • nufc 11

    Oct 8, 2012 at 12:21 PM

    Comment #37

    Santon looked really good at Rb yest being saying for a while that shud b played there, willo seem to go thru a mental block yest, harper looked like he shud of had a coffee b4 the game, frgie was shakie bt fin well cisse and ba cannot play together although cheick and cabaye looked good too, shola to start, colo for willo, and well beat mackems

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  • jimiley

    Oct 8, 2012 at 12:23 PM

    Comment #38

    We all need to calm down and realize who we are and where we have come from. The result was disappointing but we need to be patient and realize Rome was not built in a day. Its all part of the 8 year plan. If we play as badly in 8 years time against manure then I feel we have a right to be disappointed and Pardew’s job will be under threat. In 8 years we should be winning things. Keep the faith in Pardew and Ashley.

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  • boater

    Oct 8, 2012 at 12:23 PM

    Comment #39

    Catchy – You always seem to state your opinion as undeniable facts, which by Pardew ignoring makes him undeniably wrong.

    Why should he dismantle a team which overachieved with a fifth place finish. Why should he scrap Jonas for Fergie – who is being brought in as all kids should?

    No, the club can’t bend the space/time continuum to guarantee everything will be the same in the next 8 years, but they can make a statement of support to back their manager – so that when the mob get in a fluster about one bad result the manager feels secure enough to concentrate on the football side not the political side.

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  • Jamesthefirst

    Oct 8, 2012 at 12:24 PM

    Comment #40

    Those saying Pardew has no plan B couldn’t be more wrong.

    Everytime we have started badly this season (Everton, Man Utd), he has changed it tactically and fired a rocket up the players to get a better performance. If not for some bad decisions yesterday we would have drawn that game. Even ardent Man Utd fans I know said we battered them after the second goal.

    Pardew’s fault is not a Plan B. He is always able to turn it around and get the team playing better. That is the sign of a very good Manager, and a great team spirit in the dressing room.

    The problem is how we START games. Whatever he says to them at half time he needs to say before kick-off.

    And remember, it is already Oct, and we have yet to field our strongest 11. Last season out first 11 were a match for anyone. We only struggled when we had to rely on squad players. The difference this season is we are having to rely on squad players every week.

    When Krul, Colo, Taylor, Cabaye, Tiote, Ben Arfa, and BA are finally on the pitch there will be a HUGE difference in playing better football and winning games.

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