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Pardew – Players Coming Back – It Wasn’t A Disaster

10:49 am, Monday, October 8th, 2012 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 20 Comments

It’s probably a decent indication of how far we’ve come over the last three years that most of us were bitterly disappointed with the result of the game yesterday, and the performance from our lads in that first half.

Alan Pardew – it’s not a disaster

I was not a happy man after the game yesterday, as the expectations had been so high, and it was funny when my daughter Elaine called me after the game – before she left on a business trip this week for her Makeup Artistry work – and she immediately said something like:

“I know Newcastle got beat – Mam told me to be beware – so I’m very sorry about that but …….”

That brought me back to reality and I started to laugh about it, and I suppose things are brightening up a bit, and it’s really true what Alan Pardew has said today – that we shouldn’t treat yesterday as a disaster – although that was my reaction during and after the game yesterday. 😀

And I got the usual from my wife Madeline after the game – something she’s told me repeatedly for over 40 years now:

“It’s only a game”

This is what Alan said today – to try to ease the pain of defeat:

“I don’t think it is a massive setback.” “If we get beaten 3-0 by one of the lesser sides, for sure, you’d start looking at your team. But that was against a team that had a lot of talent in there in Manchester United.”

“And it fell for them a little bit.” “At 2-0 we got a goal that you’re still saying, ‘Is it over?’ or ‘Is it not over?’ “I’ve looked at the video and I’m still not sure.” “I don’t know what the boy words it up as but it’s definitely a cross.”

“Those two incidents probably decided the fate of the game in the end.” “We have had a whole lot of games, seriously.” “A few of our players have played too many minutes – Willo and Perchie especially.”

“They were gallant. Hopefully we’ll have a few options back and that will help.”

And when that Cisse header didn’t go in – or should I say when it wasn’t called as a goal – we knew right then that it was just not Newcastle’s day – because a goal then and we were right back in the game.

We’ll have to just hammer Sunderland in our next game – that’s the only thing that matters now.

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20 responses so far ↓

  • 1 taker83 // Oct 8, 2012 at 10:56 AM

    If u r a manager, u should have the passion to win no matter which team u r playing…I don’t think it is a massive setback.” “If we get beaten 3-0 by one of the lesser sides, for sure, you’d start looking at your team. But that was against a team that had a lot of talent in there in Manchester United.”
    Now, did Mu played tat well apart from cleverly goal,?we gave 2 #####goals bcoz of stupid markings.Now will u not look at ur team Pardew?

  • 2 mattyNUFC // Oct 8, 2012 at 11:06 AM

    i’m not worried about our pool of players. we have one of the best squads in the country

    i’m worried about who’s leading them, if i’m honest

  • 3 ballerfan2 // Oct 8, 2012 at 11:07 AM

    taker – i would say Man U did play very well during the first half, as well as they have played for some time. Gary Neville said as much during the game. During that dominant period they scored 2 not so great goals but you can argue that their pressure paid off. Otherwise we were in the game, but the damage was already done.

  • 4 Munster Mag // Oct 8, 2012 at 11:08 AM

    Bloody hell that was a bit of a shocker yesterday. I dont thunk Pardew should be hiding behind the fact that it was against Man U …..we shouldnt be beaten so easily at home, especially as Man U were not even playing well to date. They outclassed us technically all over the pitch – and their kids looked technically much better than ours too. Loads of reasons for concern but yet again WHY DID ASHLEY NOT STRENGHEN IN THE SUMMER? I cant imagine a huge unit like Douglas would not have helped us on those corners. I think we have some real issues:

    1. Pardew cannot decide if he really wants a 4-3-3 formation
    2. He was incorrect in his assertion ( in sofar as we can see ) that Cisse and Ba would work together. He felt Ba would play short, and Cisse up top. I wish it could happen.
    3. The only way they will work together ( apart from the sweeper system i showed you all before ) is by playing good wingers, consistently.
    4. Why is Pardew not able to motivate the team for ANY first half ( or so it seems ) this season?
    5. Will people please stop trying to suggest that Tiote is worth 20-25 mill. He’s not, and never was. And he’s getting worse, unless his fitness is about 70%. If this guy is fit, we have an issue
    6. Fergie is not a full back – he doesnt get close enough to wingers and probably isn’t strong enough.
    7. Its time for Pardew to man up, make a decision about his strikers and get on with it.
    8. If a club fannies around in the summer over signings and plays brinkmanship, it tends to come back and bit you in the ass when injuries inevitably pile in. This has come to pass , as many of us predicted.
    9. Cabaye is still 25% down on where he was last season. Its doesnt surprise me that he got hurt as he’s a petulant little bo11ocks himself with far too much needle in him.

    I didnt really appreciate it, but as I pointed out yesterday, the Sunday Times has pointed out that we are the biggest long ball merchants in the premiership. We are also the worst at breaking up other teams play . I had been comfortable with 4-4-2 but we dont have the players to play it.

    This is probably the first time I have ever posted something which looks anti Pardew. I’m actually a Pardew fan, but besides santon and especially Guti yesterday, we were all over the place, and have been a shadow of last years team. Misearble monday moan over :)

  • 5 beefman13 // Oct 8, 2012 at 11:08 AM

    After20 mins of football man utd were 2-0 up had 76 per cent of the play, and deserved it for their tactical changes which caught us off guard.

    They more or less knew how we start every game so took advantage of it,

    After this period we more than competed with them, and in the end even though we went down 3-0 we ended up 53 to 43 per cent possesion in our favour, obviously if you loose that dosnt mean much but we were not overran and created quite a few decent chances.

    AP will have to see that 433 is better than 442 for us especially at home, or even a different formation but 442 leaves us static as the two dembas are not to good playing together and we become rigid.

    Yes we got stung and outwitted early on yesterday, but its not the end of the world and far too many have been going over the top again imo.

    We cannot win every game, christ, bordeaux could have scored two early on on thursday, we and willo got away with it but we did not yesterday, it has got to be looked at seriously this centre half back up situation.

  • 6 ballerfan2 // Oct 8, 2012 at 11:11 AM

    Ed is so quick with his blogs it’s often difficult to keep up so aplologies for a repost.
    It seems so black and white – we lost 0-3 so we were rubbish. Well that’s not the game I watched. For the first 20 minutes Man U were at their best and we were at our worst, no defensive or midfield cohesion against a seriously pumped up Salford team who can destroy any team in the world if they are seriously in the mood. 2 very poor goals and we were chasing the game (at that point the COMPLETE reorganistion of our defence ie 2 reserve C defenders and a reserve LB while switching Santon to RB for a rare appearance in that position – yikes!) was a risk that looked to be a spectacular failure, after all, those 2 goals undoubtedly came from the lack of understanding. However from that point Pardew changed things and we matched them. Maybe they took their foot off the gas but at times they also looked rattled on occasions. Yes, they still looked dangerous but until the lucky 3rd goal when we visibly gave up both teams were pretty well matched. And who’s to say that had the Cisse non goal been given that that impetus wouldn’t have changed the game in our favour with the crowd behind us and a doubt in the mind of the opposing players. Incidentally, to those who continually leave Jonas off their team sheets, thank goodness Pardew appreciates what he gives the team. His skill and remarkable engine yesterday were as good as anything on the pitch and our MOM by some distance. I was as angry as most in the first 20 yesterday but really encouraged by what followed. Don’t let the 0-3 disguise the fact that the damage was done in the 15 minutes before we turned up. Have faith.

  • 7 Munster Mag // Oct 8, 2012 at 11:20 AM

    Baller, Man U were a mile ahead of us, and if you cant see that, you need your eyes tested. Sorry to sound harsh, but its all predicated on their goals. They technically outclassed us ( Tiote looks like a pub player at times ) and the only reason we got more from the game was because they were secure. Put it this way, if they had only scored one goal earlier on, they would have been driving to get another anyway, and possession stats in the second half would have been different. They didnt need to chase the game so they didnt need to look as good. Pardews confusion over 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 needs to be fixed, as does his teams lack of first half motivation.

  • 8 ash1001 // Oct 8, 2012 at 11:20 AM

    Its about time Pardew called it as the majority of fans call it, we as fans are not blind nor are we without knowledge as far as football is concerned. We may not have been lucky enough to reach the heights and wealth of some of those on the pitch + those guiding the team, but we still know!
    There are players in the team and on the bench that will never have nor ever have been to the standard of a top premier league team, and more than like they would not even make their squads. Harsh you may think but true never the less. Think of the players that Man U had missing or rested and that sort of sums it up – they managed and won 3 – 0, I accept we had 3 essential players missing, but if the backup players were good enough then it may not have been felt as much.
    Another point is that we seem to be at least a yard slower than other teams no matter what position they are in the league i.e. Reading so its not all about Man U.
    Finally, lol this Wonga thing – we have had Sunderland with there stadium of S – – te, can you just imagine it Toon playing at W – – K – R arena/park and as fans we are off to see the W – – KERs play,

  • 9 beefman13 // Oct 8, 2012 at 11:27 AM

    Ballerfan, Man Utd completly changed their tactics yesterday they had no width at all but ran straight through us, credit has to go to them for their nous in the preparation to the game, we got more respect of ferguson yesterday than you would believe as he very very rarely puts a man utd team out with no width, after the game they all said it was so difficult coming here and you know they meant it.

    We are being far to hard on ourselves over this defeat.

    Munster man utd did not cause problems from the left were fergie was it was the other side and even though he dosnt defend right on the defender he did a very good job for me and going forward was looking terific until MAN UTD BROUGHT VALENCIA WAS BROUGHT ON TO STOP THAT THREAT DOWN THE LEFT BY US..

    Hopefully for the mackem game both colo and saylor will be back, they have a good two weeks to get sorted, two much playing time without doubt for willy and perch is totally agreed by me that the only thing i will have a pop about the fact that we should have really got that extra proper centre half in not a utility player as perch playing there and willo who is a centre half but just a stand in in energencies imo.

    That has been the biggest mistake we made pre season, at the club they must get that, we have just drained every last drop out of willo, and he wasnt that good in the first place to do that, i am more than happy the way things are still going at the toon, not getting that centre back sorted was their mistake and it should have been a priority.

  • 10 cestriasteve // Oct 8, 2012 at 11:29 AM

    Munstermag well said I wasn’t at the match yesterday on my hols so gave my ticket to someone watching on tv the defensive play was dreadful but that is not all we should have copied spurs and gone 4-5-1 but I guess we just have not got quality crosses on the wings it’s also apparent that tiote takes a while to get back to full fitness he should have seen a red card for that challenge.

  • 11 woolerbill // Oct 8, 2012 at 11:39 AM

    It’s not a disater’well Mr what is. This could and should have been an other 5-0 thrashing. You said your were happy with your squad in August, it looks as if you only have a dozen players of premier ship class. Get a grip and let’s have no more verbal garbage.

  • 12 beefman13 // Oct 8, 2012 at 11:45 AM

    ash1001, the majority of fans said we would still be in the coca cola three years after we got relegated anfd that is a fact i bet you were the same.
    Decisions made by our club have elevated us to europe within that time and while not every desision is liked the owner will make tham weather you or the majority like it or not, its his investment and he will do what is ever needed to protect and build it be it WONGA or not, that is all poper talk at the moment, and even if it was them can we really knock back further investment beacuse the majority of supporters dont likre the name.

    By we are a sensitive lot at times, its ok for us to take the piss out of everything that moves but when its our turn for fans to have a go its like they cant to that to us geordies, we are far to proud for that.

    I supposr RBS, or barclays or loyyds tsb or vodaphone would be alright for you even jp morgan or goldman sacks, we had northern rock who just about started the whole shebang with the recession, you were ok with that i bet.

    Wonga give loans to people maybe waiting for payday or people who are awaiting benefits to come in , if you pay back on time you pay a very small interest rate if you leave it you get hammered that is the person who makes the loans choice.

    Just get off your sensitive couch and be thankful for any investment in to the club even if it hurts your little feelings, would you rather have investment or no investment, i get a feeling you would rather have none rather than WONGA well loathe them or like them for a lot of people the deliver a useful service..

  • 13 Ketsbaia9 // Oct 8, 2012 at 11:47 AM

    Have Ba and Cisse actually both scored in the same game? We need another two strikers as their strike partnership isn’t working.

  • 14 beefman13 // Oct 8, 2012 at 12:19 PM

    woolerbill we got outfoxed yesterday simple as , tactics wise we got done, it happesi in football you have to learn from it and move on, not a disaster in any way a complete over reaction by most,.

    Man utd knew this was as tough as any away game ,ferguson won the battle this time just as we did in january, win some you loose some, we got caught this time its up to us to learn from it especially the fact that 442 is not the way forward at home especially, we have to mix it up but by no way ever is it a disaster cos we got one put over on us.

  • 15 jimiley // Oct 8, 2012 at 12:19 PM

    We all need to calm down and realize who we are and where we have come from. The result was disappointing but we need to be patient and realize Rome was not built in a day. Its all part of the 8 year plan. If we play as badly in 8 years time against manure then I feel we have a right to be disappointed and Pardew’s job will be under threat. In 8 years we should be winning things. Keep the faith in Pardew and Ashley.

  • 16 beefman13 // Oct 8, 2012 at 12:40 PM

    JIMILEY, are your posts sarcasim, i have read in the past your negative comments about things, a bit of a wind up merchant are we!

  • 17 Visten // Oct 8, 2012 at 12:43 PM

    Won’t be hammering anyone one with 4-4-2, sorry Ed.

  • 18 beefman13 // Oct 8, 2012 at 12:46 PM

    Jimiley getting in to europe and having is as big a sa cup win in many respects thats over 38 games, i suppose you would have been sniggering in your coffee at the thought of that at the start of last year, yea yes you would have.

  • 19 stuart no9 // Oct 8, 2012 at 1:31 PM

    3-0 defeat at home by man -u or any body IS a disaster alan. for any geordie with a hint of passion it is a the worst possible feeling. a feeling that totally wrecks what decent weekend you have had. unless you are a cockney on an 8 year contract worth £25M believe me it is a disaster.

  • 20 MapleLeafToon // Oct 8, 2012 at 5:25 PM

    I have been reading on this blog that things will change for the better when Saylor gets back! how many England senior caps does he have! Zero!!! we have no English players on this team period with any senior English caps at all. Saylor is an slightly above average CB at best and I only give him that praise because he attacks corner kicks and gets us the odd couple of goals. Willo below average CB, Simmo average RB, Perch average utility player, stop gap fill in at best. Replacing these players is what is needed for NUFC, no more below average or everyday mediocre players needed in our back line period. Get senior cap world expeerienced and class defenders! and let us fight for a top 5 position!!!! Can any of these players make it into Chelsea, Arsenal, Man City, Man U… I think not! So why should we be be content with this unworthy lot of players!!!!!




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