We must say we were a bit disappointed that the deal Newcastle have made with Wonga is only for £8M a year, and that’s for both the shirts and the Stadium naming rights, and compared to other clubs, it’s not good.
When Derek LLambias was asked if the deal was £8M a year yesterday, he didn’t give any exact figures but said that £8M was fairly close.
Other top clubs do a lot better on their shirt deals.
Liverpool are getting £25M per year over six years from Warrior Sports,
and Manchester United in the summer signed a shirt deal with American General Motors division Chevrolet, which gives them £50M per year over seven years, and starts in the 2014-2015 season – some other reports have that at £25M per year.
Chelsea just renewed their contract with Samsung, and that’s estimated at around £18M a year, in the three year extension.
We know those three clubs have a much higher visibility around the world than Newcastle do (at the moment), and all three have won the Champions League recently, but those deals are just for the shirts – and they don’t include any stadium naming rights, which is part of the Newcastle deal.
And when you remember that Derek LLambias had said Newcastle were looking for £10M a year just for the naming rights alone, it just doesn’t look too good a financial deal to us.
A decent deal would have been around double what we are getting.
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1 Spuggy // Oct 10, 2012 at 12:45 PM
Moral arguments aside if we get Cat 1 status for the academy, and the funding to bring the 3 quality players we need through the door by next summer, nothing else we matter that much to the majority of fans.
I agree about bank sponsors being just as bad. Look at McDonalds etc sponsoring the olympics.
Time to move on, but I want to see this money put back into the team in January and over the summer.
2 BelfastMagpie // Oct 10, 2012 at 12:46 PM
I honestly couldn’t care, far more important things to worry about in life, than bloody shirt sponsorships..
3 Edd Case // Oct 10, 2012 at 12:47 PM
Well, I actually think it’s a good deal.
We’re not ‘top 4′ or in Champs League, so we don’t fall in the same ‘global’ scene as the other clubs mentioned.
Wonga are investing heavily in the yoth set up and that’s very good news.
The stadium naming rights is just a smoke screen. The sponsorship ‘package’ is £8million a year for 4 years.
So £32 million into the club coffers and don’t forget we still have Puma and Sports Direct as sponsors too.
The naming rights was a way of Ashley and co “selling” it when actually I bet this is just a cover up for another appaling decision and not admitting they were wrong.
All the while I’m sure they wanted it to be back to SJP but couldn’t put their hands up to the mistake and of course sold it as part of a sponsorship deal.
Wonga, to their credit, gave us the name back and will pump £32 million into the club…pretty much all so they can put ‘Wongo’ on our t-shirts…..fine by me.
4 jesperfuglsang // Oct 10, 2012 at 12:49 PM
Ed, maybe I misread DL’s statement, but didn’t he say the deal was for the shirt (the £8M) and the naming rights was on top of that? Meaning extra money for that?
…well that was how I read it!
5 Dai // Oct 10, 2012 at 12:52 PM
Southern Press just using any excuse to have a pop at Newcastle. Apparently there is an article out suggesting that the muslim players boycott the club and Wonga trade in a manner which is against Sharia law.
Spuggy, what is it with you and Macdonalds mate. To many quarter pounders with cheese……
6 pbNcl // Oct 10, 2012 at 12:54 PM
Beefman. I’ve gotta gan back to work, I don’t want to spend my lovely afternoon arguing with a jumped up little to55pot like you. You are insignificant. However, if you do decide to wade into disagreements with your now trademark bad attitude. No doubt we will enjoy more fruitless wordplay. Gan take your face for a 5hit you disagreeable cretin. Wonga are scum.
7 Toon_Army // Oct 10, 2012 at 12:56 PM
I think DL mentioned that it was the incentives that stood them out as the best option, we all know how MA is with cash so I guessing there were some TAX benefits involved with them pumping money into the different sections of the club rather than straight into the bank account, of course it will still be nowhere near the CHE or MU deals but we havn’t won anything for a while have we…
8 nufc90 // Oct 10, 2012 at 12:56 PM
If people want to take the moral high ground they should look at the authorities who legalise these companies. We’re just taking advantage of a commercial opportunity which will benefit the club, that’s all that matters to me. Some people may say that’s wrong but if we start looking at ethics lets look at the whole lot…gambling, alcohol, kitmaker’s sweat shops
9 rainrix // Oct 10, 2012 at 12:57 PM
Dai… Thats what annoys me they only need the slightest excuse to have a pop.
10 estechco // Oct 10, 2012 at 12:57 PM
For all the grief the club will have as a result, I too feel the deal seems a rather mediocre one, especially when you consider it IS strictly speaking for ground naming rights as well (despite them not using it the sense you would expect).
11 walton1984 // Oct 10, 2012 at 12:57 PM
I dont understand why everyone is complaining about Wonga……if its the best deal we could get then why not….
Also Barclays, Capital One they are the League & Cup Sponsors are a Bank & Credit Card….Do i need too say anymore about Banks….The Fa Cup Budwiser(i think) will this turn us all into Alcholics…….then u have then team Liverpool was their sponsor not doin the banking for terrorists, Then u have all the Teams Sponsored by Beers & Betting Sites are all those not wrong
12 Edd Case // Oct 10, 2012 at 12:58 PM
Dai – it’s actually ‘McDonald’s'…not ‘MacDonald’s’
Although, most of the intellectually challenged population do say McDonald’s as you have written it, pronouncing the “a” or “Mac” part, when it’s not, it’s actually “Mc”, said, “muck”.
But I’m sure this was just a typo on your behalf and you are not part of the intellectually challenged…….right?
13 Dai // Oct 10, 2012 at 1:04 PM
Edd Case….I’m an Englishman and will therefore spell Macdonald’s the way our mother tongue intended. Let’s not stoop so low as the yankie doodle dandies…….
14 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 1:06 PM
Question for everyone. Let’s discuss APR rates and what we consider would be reasonable for a company to offer for a second. I have seen people say “Why don’t Wonga just offer the same rate as banks, say 21% (APR)”.
Using the Wonga method and service that they are offering:
£400 loan for 30 days.
£400 @ 21% = £84 p.a
£84/365 = £0.23 p.d
£0.23 x 30 days = £6.90
Are people really thinking a business (or evil corporation if you wish) should be receiving what equates to 1.725% of the loan for what is considered a short term high risk loan?
Please don’t think I am saying their rates are fair, but you cannot apply the logic of bank rates (APR) to such a service, can you?
From what I have read (not experienced myself), there are certainly cases where the collection and help offered by Wonga has been suspect to say the least and these incidents should be looked in to, reported and dealt with, however, these occurrences do happen at most companies, doesn’t make it right, but also shouldn’t be used to just single out one company.
If we’re talking about the service the company offers though to people, are they not within their rights to charge what they see as the right rate as long as people are aware of the cost?
Perhaps we need to be discussing why there aren’t other alternatives out there for people between a rock and a hard place as this is not actually the service for these people and the sad thing is they have or feel they have nowhere else to turn. That for me is the social issue and question.
Don’t want to cause offense, I can see some people are passionate about this and that is understandable, but I do feel, perhaps incorrectly, some issues are being crossed here and making a final conclusion more difficult that it should be.
This is a re-post and I see we’re trying to veer onto a new topic, so please just ignore it if that is the case and let me know what we’re discussing now.
15 Tsunki // Oct 10, 2012 at 1:06 PM
C’mon and do the Won-ga
C’mon and do the Won-ga
La la la la
La la la la!
Wonga
Wonga wonga wonga wonga wonga.
Mike Williamson is responsible for faukts occuring with the Large Hadron Collider and the decline in the honey bee population. Ok – I’m out.
16 Tsunki // Oct 10, 2012 at 1:08 PM
Faults ha ha how ironic.
17 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 1:09 PM
Tsunki…Stop being such a Wonga
18 Peter Beardsley // Oct 10, 2012 at 1:11 PM
@Dai
Charging interest(usury) on loans is against Muslim beliefs so I doubt they would buy any shirt with a bank sponsor. But then Jesus was also against the same practice.
19 Dai // Oct 10, 2012 at 1:15 PM
Beardo, I understand that similar rules apply to alcohol, gambling, etc, etc. There would be no clubs left for them to play for……… Just the southern gutter press having a pop yet again.
20 Quasi.modo // Oct 10, 2012 at 1:20 PM
Long time reader, first time poster so here it goes.
I don’t understand the approach that certain fans are taking to this Wonga deal. Either you get behind the team or you don’t, the sponsor of the shirt is in no way reflective of the morals and values of the team, it is merely a way of bringing money into the club.
If some of you have such strong feelings about this Wonga deal then why don’t you let the rest of us support the team instead of saying that we are wrong, or that we are fools? We simply choose to acknowledge that the deal is good for the continued progress of our great club and that instead of turning this into some moral crusade we just want to get on with supporting the team.
21 Alain Pardeaux // Oct 10, 2012 at 1:26 PM
I’m not bothered whether Mike Ashley’s getting a good deal or not, the main thing is we’re gonna get an extra 8 mill a year to spend on players, no excuses now to not improve the squad
22 Edd Case // Oct 10, 2012 at 1:26 PM
Dai – McDonald and MacDonald are two competely different names, neither is spelt incorrectly, unless used in the way you have in your previous post.
The chain you were referring to is McDonald’s, not MacDonald’s, that was my point.
You can say ‘Mac’ Donald’s all you like (although this is also wrong) but spelling the name incorrectly is just that, incorrect, that is all…
Good day.
23 Dai // Oct 10, 2012 at 1:29 PM
Burger King it is then.
24 Alain Pardeaux // Oct 10, 2012 at 1:30 PM
The Burger King Arena
25 toon smart // Oct 10, 2012 at 1:31 PM
Right, from now on i am going to use “wonga” as a direct replacement for any expletive.
I think people should shut the wonga up about morals etc. Football has no wonga-ing morals. this is just wonga-ing me off at the moment. As far as i am concerned every sponsor has been a wonga and therefore to complain is wonga-ing stupid.
Wonga over
26 toon smart // Oct 10, 2012 at 1:32 PM
* rant over
27 lesh // Oct 10, 2012 at 1:35 PM
Just what is it about the owner and his side-kicks that seems to embroil the club in controversy? Virgin Money, which is a bank no matter what anyone thinks and has a non-controversial profile, aside, it seems that the powers that be seem lead us into situations that provoke a reaction.
I do recognise that this is business and that money has no scruples or conscience, and therfore we should only be glad that there’s new money coming into the pot.
As Wonga’s got the naming rights to SJP, in mitigation for Ashley, Llambias and presumably Wonga, they’d correctly anticipated that adopting Wonga’s name into the stadium’s name would have been a PR disaster. Theyr’e also investing money into the club’s community activities and its academy – that should release extra money to invest in the squad as time goes on. Although Wonga seem to have the rights to rename SJP at a later date and it could do so, if it wishes. However, a PR disaster at the moment.
Have faith guys, Ashley and his crew will have thought this through but in the meantime, the press will continue to see us as ready made for targeting and we’ve got to hope that good results and success force the media to change its perception about Newcasttle United.
Howay the laaaaaaaddddds!!!
28 Alain Pardeaux // Oct 10, 2012 at 1:37 PM
WONGA wonga dot com!
You make it easy when a month is too long!
Thanks for everything you’ve done!
Mr Wonga you’re number one!!
29 Peter Beardsley // Oct 10, 2012 at 1:38 PM
@toon smart
” Football has no wonga-ing morals”
If a person has no morals or is immoral, are they likeable? I fear this deal has many negative implications for the club, this is why I don’t think it is good for us.
30 Rotonda heights // Oct 10, 2012 at 1:42 PM
Beefman – you said in the last thread
would play one up front supported by benny with fergie left wing jonas left back and anita cabaye tiote in the middle hopefully saylor colo and krul are back santon at right back still; and bring shola and or demba or cisse on with 30 mins left weather we are winning or not to shake it up even more, but not 442.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
Great minds think alike. That is so screamingly obvious to me, but with Pards it aint going to happen. We only went 433 with Benny last season cos raylor got injured when we were playing 442.
31 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 1:46 PM
Rotonda….Good news that Raylor is injured then?
Didn’t we start 4-3-3 against Everton? Pardew might favour or at least be seen to favour 4-4-2, but you can’t say he wont play 4-3-3 or another formation, as he has done so.
32 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 1:46 PM
pb, you must be tea lady, i would say pamela!!!, seems you get quiteafew breaks in your work!
oh should i have said tea person
its the total falseness that i cant abide.
anyway it must be time for another cuppa! pb, milk and no sugar ta very much!
33 Les Grossman // Oct 10, 2012 at 1:46 PM
I think ill go out nad borrow 10k from wonga because they are on the front of the toons shirts!!
i wish everyone would get a grip!!
Sharia law states….bla bla bla
UK Law states, companies can gain sponsorship from who they see fit!!
Gutter scum press trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill!! I cant see the deal being less than 10m for shirt and naming, I think Lamarse is being a bit economical with the truth their.
Reason being, I think North Rock/ Virgin deal was worth 10M per year, why kick them out halfway through a deal??
DL and MA are damned if they do and damned iof they dont. If I was them I wouldnt be putting the correct figures out into a public domain who constantly ask the qeustion, where has the 10m gone whingey whine!
Come on Ed.
Gullibles travels springs to mind here …….
34 numba9 // Oct 10, 2012 at 1:46 PM
Rubbish deal and hope it falls thru working class game it isn’t any more and getting sponsored by people that don’t care about those people . Not what we are about
35 AndyMac // Oct 10, 2012 at 1:48 PM
nufc90 says:
“If people want to take the moral high ground they should look at the authorities who legalise these companies. We’re just taking advantage of a commercial opportunity which will benefit the club”
But we didnt HAVE to take Wonga’s money nobody forced Fatman.
Unfortunately Wonga and SD are taking Newcastle United’s image down into the gutter yet some fans dont seem to care ?
What next ? Poundland ?
36 dutchgeordie // Oct 10, 2012 at 1:50 PM
i would think that Ashley may not be the best at footballing matters but at a purely financial matter like this he will be astute enough to broker a good deal. It is true that a £ 10 million figure was mentioned for the stadium naming rights only but nobody took that serious.
37 NewcastleMole // Oct 10, 2012 at 1:52 PM
There’s a huge misconception about Wonga.
(Personally as a business i don’t like what they do)
But let’s use common sense here. Wonga has recently reported good profits. Now the media, fa, & MPs are suggesting that Wonga targets the weak and vulnerable of society.
Wonga made they’re profits by people actually “REPAYING” their loans (With outrageous ARP i might add)
Now if the weak and vulnerable are really that they would be getting a loan because they are short on cash and being short on cash would leave them unlikely to be able to repay such a loan and end up in further debt. If that were to to happen Wonga wouldn’t receive back the money it has leant with interest.
The media in particular love a good muck racking i wouldnt expect anything less than that.
Premier League sponsored by alcohol then a bank.
Conference – Gambling
FA Cup – Alcohol
League Cup – Finance
Villa, Stoke, Swansea, West Ham, Wigan – Gambling
Everton – Alcohol
Fulham, Liverpool, Man Utd, Norwich – Finance
38 Mister Tuff // Oct 10, 2012 at 1:52 PM
Ibiza @#14.
Bloody hell they’re not too bad rates for a loan. Without being cheeky I think you need to get your facts/sums right. Examples of the correct rates I will indicate below.
The representative APR on a Wonga loan is 4214%. So correct loan examples would be:-
A £100 Wonga loan taken for 30 days would mean you repay £136.72
A £400 Wonga loan taken for 14 days would mean you repay £461.49
A £50 loan from Wonga repaid in 10 days means you would repay £60.97.
Some posters stated they have used Wonga for a short loan that is all well and good I have no problem with that. There are those in society who may not be as astute as some of the posters on here, people recovering from mental illness, persons threatened by illegal loan sharks, other vulnerable people, some may say it is their own faults, well if that is the way people think about the vulnerable in society- they should probably examine their own consciences.
If the truth be known all these companies profiteer at the expense of others, it is just that Wonga are probably one of the worst.
The southern based press are going to jump on anything adverse about Wonga over the next few years, and by that old principle of “guilt by association” NUFC will get slagged off, as well as the North East. A price worth paying?
39 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 1:53 PM
rotonda, AP likes to fit the dembas in but it really dosnt work with them as we know, and it is nearly always the second half were we improve after tactics have had to change.
we could be attacking from all angles if we played a different system we have the players to do that.
yohan is getting back up to spped, let him link with benny from midfield, fergie a big threat down the left and santon pushing on down the right.
all hopefully supplying one of the dembas to start with the shola maybe to close the show late on.
we have to mix it up more i think AP must know that.
that said its taking a bit of sinking in about the 442 carry on.
we have the perfect players to play other attacking formations.
40 toon smart // Oct 10, 2012 at 1:56 PM
As a philosophical question, i think it could be possible for a person to be without morals and still likeable
What does that have to do with the sponsorship deal?
As I stated before Wonga’s unethical practices are there for all to see. Where as many, if not all sportswear manufacturers are either directly or indirectly involved in the exploitation of people in poverty.
So the question is why now for the moral indignation. why not with other sponsors or other manufacturers i.e. nike etc
41 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 1:59 PM
Mister….Thank you for bothering to respond.
I was using figures suggested by various posters they felt Wonga should be charging, whilst discussing APR. That was the example I provided, not Wonga’s – Sorry if that wasn’t clear.
I doubt this debate will ever be settled, however, in an attempt to move on, I feel we need to split some of the issues being thrown about…as they are separate and attacking them all at once is impossible with this many people having their say.
I was choosing the subject of their gross interest they charge people.
My point is normal banks are providing longer term loans, usually for higher amount and with less risk. Therefore, they offer lower rates (some would say still too high, but hey, that’s for another time). That is not the same service as Wonga. My question was, applying a bank rate (someone suggested the 2
42 Shane // Oct 10, 2012 at 1:59 PM
I ain’t going to lie, i love that we are sponsered by Wonga…
Come on, that little Earl character in the adverts is just adorable.
I mean really!? How can a company with such a sweet little advert be such a monsterous organisation?? I don’t believe it, not in my world, some of you need to think about this before making your judgements!!! Cute bunch of old people all having a bit of a joke in an office environment with little old Earl making us all laugh warm heartedly, it’s not Earl we should be aiming our worries and anger at, it’s the fat cats that are the problem!
I have been Shane, thanks for listening.
x
43 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 2:01 PM
Sorry – hit send way too early.
2.1% APR rate, so that is what I used) to the Wonga service would return interest to them as set out in my original post, no?
Why on Earth would an independent company want to touch that market with those sort of returns?
Point being, they are different to a normal bank and therefore we can’t apply the logic 21% to 4,000% + is outrageous. It’s not relative.
That isn’t me saying their rates are good either. Just trying to maybe remove one of the, imo, false ideas floating around.
Thoughts?
44 cyprus // Oct 10, 2012 at 2:03 PM
Have we gone from 10 mil to 8? Just wondering, see link below with all the sponsorships in the PL
http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2012/07/24/premier-league-shirt-deals-hit-147m-record-high-thanks-to-north-east-boom-240702/
45 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 2:03 PM
Shane…Howay, nice try, but I don’t think people liking their advert characters is going to help things much
Plus, I think a fair few are not so fond of them anyway.
Back to the drawing board mate.
46 Mister Tuff // Oct 10, 2012 at 2:05 PM
Ibiza @#40 – I suspect you are right about this Wonga debate never being settled. Lot of entrenched views on either side of the argument. Somebody posted early on in the “debate” that it did not matter what we, the fans, thought. This is certainly true -Ashley is the boss and he will do as he wants.
Whether we have heard the last of Wonga -I doubt it.
47 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 2:06 PM
Toon Smart….I think it’s gained so much support (or perhaps that isn’t the right word in this case) is that this particular issue hits home for a lot of people, especially around Newcastle. Nike, as an example, and their shall we say indecent behavoiur, whilst many may not agree with, it doesn’t effect their every day life. Hence why it’s not such an obvious problem to have an association with. I think people feel by picking a company, who to be fair, do have a bad rep (rightly or wrongly) like Wonga, we’re just dragging the club in to the situation.
48 Quasi.modo // Oct 10, 2012 at 2:09 PM
I just think that rightly, or wrongly. Wonga is now the sponsor of the shirts. There are many negatives and positives to be taken from the deal but in the end all that matters is that we all rally behind Alan and the lads to push this team to the next level.
If we were to then achieve CL football on a regular basis then I think we would want to align ourselves with even bigger companies, for even bigger money so onwards and upwards is the only way.
49 Shane // Oct 10, 2012 at 2:10 PM
Well i for one love Earl!
Anyway, touching on a tangent of this… Has anybody ever watched a football team donning a sponser and thought… I MUST go out now and get a Mc Donalds, I really must buy more Carlsberg… I suddenly need a Wonga…
50 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 2:11 PM
Cyprus…I have been wondering about the Virgin amount recently. Have seen figures quoted ranging from £10m p.a down to £3m p.a. Is that website likely to have credible figures? I have not a clue, but, if it is £10m p.a from Virgin, something seems adrift. Even with the extra payments to the academies (apparently 2 x £1.5m p.a) would only be £11m p.a, £1m more than Virgin. We get the stadium name back officially, but is this worth £1m to the fans or not? Interesting. Would love some clarification on actual amounts – is it possible?
51 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 2:12 PM
There are ethical issues with just about every sponsorwhich includes banks breweries credit companys yea!
all out to make as much bit as possible arnt they and some throw out bad messages according to alot of people.
people have owed credit companys for years and hadthe house reposessions with banks.
people have had problems with drink for ever but they can still sponsor even though the cigarette companys cant.
im just saying why has a hell of a lot of people and our own supporters jumped on the moralistic issue beacuse we have a payday lender?
they are no worse morally than the afore mentioned companys look what drink does to youg kids what sort of message is that.
to be honest i have morals but hat sort of thing sponsoring wise has not ever entered my head whichever team has got a good deal be it carlsberg, carling ok for the prmiership as is the crooks barclays as well.
tyhe press have been proper bastards with us and i have said no need for our own supporters to stoke the fire and rock the boat for its own club.
im glad we got sponsorship through and SJP back, more than happy i really believe though if it of been barclays or lloyds tsb those lovely banks sponsoring us there would not have been the same backlash
and for me the strokes they have pulled are 24 million times worse.
52 Peter Beardsley // Oct 10, 2012 at 2:16 PM
@Toon Smart
“As a philosophical question, i think it could be possible for a person to be without morals and still likeable” Not many people will like a person who acts without morals, mostly disliked than liked, is my point.
“What does that have to do with the sponsorship deal?” Simple, If our club is associated with a moral-less company(Mostly disliked) Then our club will be seen in the same light. This is why I see it as a bad deal
53 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 2:16 PM
Mister…Any thoughts on the rest of my post? Whilst Ashley will make final calls and only the majority of fans boycotting the club will be the only thing to make a difference, that shouldn’t mean we stop as fans discussing issues as their is no point, or maybe it should
Shane…Personally no. I don’t buy in to advertisement in general. We know why it’s there, it is down to the individual to decide whether to go for it or now – easier said than done for some, which is why we’re supposed to have advertising standards etc looking out for us, the people.
Don’t worry, Earl is a decent guy – I don’t believe he’s aware of any wrong doings by Wonga
54 cyprus // Oct 10, 2012 at 2:19 PM
Ibiza,
No idea about correctness, here’s another copy-paste:
Arsenal – Fly Emirates (airline company) ends 2014, £5.5m a year
Aston Villa – Genting Casinos (gambling company) 2013, £8m a year
Chelsea – Samsung (electronics ) 2015, £13.8m a year
Everton – Chang (brewery) 2013, £4m a year
Fulham – FxPro (foreign exchange) 2013, £4.2m a year
Liverpool – Standard Chartered (bank) 2014, £20m a year
Man City – Etihad (airline) 1922, £20m a year
Man Utd – AON (insurance) 2014, £20m a year
Newcastle – Virgin Money (finance) 2013, £10m a year
Norwich – Aviva (insurance) 2016, £1m a year
QPR – Air Asia (airline) 2013, £2.5m a year
Reading – Waitrose (supermarket) 2013, £500,000 a year
Southampton – Aap3 (IT services) 2014, £1m a year
Stoke – bet365 (gambling) 2015, £1.3m a year
Sunderland – Invest in Africa (non-profit organisation funded by oil company Tullow) 2014, £20m a year
Swansea – 32red (gambling) 2014, £1.1m a year
Tottenham – Investec/Auresma (financial services/augmented reality multimedia) £10m a year
West Brom – Zoopla (property) 2015, £1.5m a year
West Ham – SBObet (gambling) 2013, £1.7m a year
Wigan – 12bet.com (gambling) 2014, £1m a year
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2215082/St-James-Park-reinstated-Newcastles-new-sponsors-Wonga.html#ixzz28tynFLo9
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55 Shane // Oct 10, 2012 at 2:21 PM
I just feel Earl is going to get the brunt of this.
An innocent bystander dragged in to a messy situation.
I seriosuly think everybody who is against the idea of Wonga sponsering us would come on board if Wonga would just release a new advert with Earl wearing a Newcaslte top and feeding a Sunderland top through the office shredder…
I’m not in marketing.
56 cyprus // Oct 10, 2012 at 2:22 PM
Found the most altruistic one from the list?
YEP
57 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 2:23 PM
Cyprus…Cheers mate. Does make the mind boggle. Why can’t we just get straight information. I’m sure I know the answer already, to cloud judgement – but where is it coming from and is it particular to our club. Probably not.
If anyone does have any more information, it would be appreciated.
58 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 2:26 PM
Cyprus…I guess you mean the unwashed? I don’t know much about “invest in africa” and whilst on the face of it, it’s a good cause, there are many out there that don’t live up to their names. Not saying this is the case, as I would need to research it first.
At first glance though, they do seem to be the moral leaders as far as PL sponsors go.
59 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 2:29 PM
Of course advertising and sponsorship works with out doubt.
All publicity is good publicity they say so that is quids in for wonga at the toon for sure.
We are always massive news
Christ we won the coca cola and were on the front of the Sun and back! in the top right hand corner at the time was PM calls a general election!!! QUITE BIG NEWS I WOULD SAY!
Wonga have hit the jackpot with the toon i reckon and got a very good deal, so good luck to them.
im going back to St James Park v bruges on the 25th oct i will have a tear in my eye as well.
Not ashamed to say it, that means more than anything to me, that sign is going to get a great big sloppy kiss!
60 wynsleap // Oct 10, 2012 at 2:29 PM
I’m sure if we were going to be sponsored by Jimmy Saville there’d be some on here saying, “what’s wrong with that – he was a bloody good DJ?”.
When it all comes down to it we are all either pro or anti on this subject and all the arguing about facts and figures won’t change that.
However, why does Ashley always have to get the club embroiled in needless controversy? It’s not as if we are even making a fortune out of this deal. Does he just like to p**s off a great percentage of Toon fans?
61 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 2:35 PM
Cyprus, that sums everything else our deal is no worse than anyones else there is all sorts of crooks and shysters in that ha ha.
i just did not see the newspapaers slaughtering any of the other clubs for going with drink and finance companys
even the mackem deal is oil based were that company is no doubt offsetting their taxes
dont get me started with greed oil companys ha ha !!!
62 Selbymag // Oct 10, 2012 at 2:39 PM
I have not commented for a while but feel driven too as I have discovered I am the Devil.
Upon leaving college at 18 I secured employment with Standard Chartered Bank in Leeds a dastardly financial instituiion with historic links to South Africa and now the bank of choice for terrorists allegedly.
I have also worked for Carlsberg and Bass (now Coors) therefore encouraged alchoholism. I was actually a lending manager at Bass so encouraged alchoholism and charged pubs interest on the loans they took out to allow them to sell beer to unsuspecting drinkers.
I now work in the insurance industry who are the biggest bunch of crooks going!
By some of the reasoning on this site today I should be up in front of a jury in Geneva for crimes against humanity.
Its a shirt sponsor ffs!! Will you not be happy until we get the erm Catholic Church to sponsor us as they are not courrupt……… oops hang on a minute!!
63 Pushy Pardew // Oct 10, 2012 at 2:40 PM
Ibiza
i agree with your recent post and Beef observation. This is more direct but an often dismissive abusive approach is far too simplistic a response to a well thought out post. i am afraid though that in trying to keep a level playing field you are on occasions going along with things that upon reflection you realise were wrong and not representative of your view. But hey none of us are perfect. The question of what a poster can and cannot post over different issues and at different times has exposed the vulnerabilities of Tads, Ruddy and Beefman. They
fell into the trap for different reasons which i will not go into.
Tads to be fair has noticeably cleaned up his act but only after having his hat put on straight by Ian Toon. Incidentally i like Ian
Toon’s style float like a butterfly sting like a bee. I say this with the best of intentions but beware whom you align yourself with particularly when they don’t represent your views. Most posters flit in and out and don’t always realise what you might have stated earlier. On Ruddy his black moods do not have to be tolerated and he really does not have the intellectual capacity to outsmart a number of posters whom he has underestimated. Again i mention Toon who noticeably does not become rude and abusive when engaging. I do hope you will take this post in the spirit intended. Well back to the grind.
64 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 2:42 PM
Wyn, the red tops and broadsheets have got it in for us you must know that.
nothing was said to any other club about any of their financing, drink, related deals.
we always get in the neck but some of our fans have stoked the fire and been caught up in the propaganda .
it should be great news a sponsorship deal it is fabulous news about SJP and i did not think for one min we were going to get our famous name back any time soon. so i was chuffed to bits with that.
65 Pushy Pardew // Oct 10, 2012 at 2:45 PM
Ibiza
Reading my post it might appear that i am related to Toon or secretary of his fan club but were not and i have never met him.
66 gonufc (up and Hatem) // Oct 10, 2012 at 2:46 PM
But who actually called it “Sports Direct Arena”- it IS St. James’ Park regardless of what sign is up.
Such a blatant example of burying bad (or at least dubious) news.
and @ 3 Edd Case – Where on earth has it been said that Newcastle are getting a penny from Sports Direct? He owns the club, why would you presume he is giving extra money?
67 cyprus // Oct 10, 2012 at 2:46 PM
Nice CV Selby!
68 catchy in norway // Oct 10, 2012 at 2:46 PM
Does it really matter who is the sponser ,
All that should count is , are the club going to use some of the money and buy some midfielders in January , we are very week there
69 geordiejosh // Oct 10, 2012 at 2:46 PM
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/newcastles-muslim-stars-told-play-new-kit-070006117.html?nc
anyone saw this?
70 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 2:47 PM
Wynsleap…I think facts and figures (factual ones) should make a difference. People generally base their opinions on the info in front of them, if it is incorrect information that would indicate that perhaps the opinion is also incorrect – to some extent anyway.
As for Ashley and always getting us involved in needless controversy, they do say any publicity is good publicity, may be it’s as simple as that. He has however done some ok things along the way imo, he does certainly challenge peoples support at times though.
I get called an Ashley lover a fair bit, when at the end of the day, I don’t know the man personally. I would hazard a guess, he is not the nicest man on the planet – probably far from it. Do I think he loves the club and it’s fans – probably not. Do I think he’s out to intentionally screw us over – not as straight forward as that. I believe he wants to make money, he is a businessman. Do I respect his wealth creation? He’s done pretty well for himself, most likely at the expense of others, sadly that seems to be the trend of history. Is the quote “Behind every great fortune, there is a great crime”.
So, no, I don’t love the man, but that doesn’t mean some of the stuff he does is good for our club and ultimately his profit at the end. There needs to be a balance, it can’t be all for his benefit nor just for the fans enjoyment. Football isn’t what it once was, as I know you are all aware.
71 Selbymag // Oct 10, 2012 at 2:49 PM
The bigger issue for me is how much of this money is to be invested into the squad. If we are almost self sufficient then the majority of this should be added to the pot of money already put aside for January.
I realise thats not likely but I an optimist,
72 cyprus // Oct 10, 2012 at 3:00 PM
OK,
Definitely dropping the Wonga issue as of this post, what’s done is done. For the record, for me it’s the worst thing done under this administration and I do appreciate the many positives implemented.
Here’s some fun reading:
http://www.reviewcentre.com/reviews237290.html
On to the football ED
73 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 3:01 PM
Selby, God bless you my son. we are sponsored im happy.
Pushy i know i dont sit on the fence, i give my opinion based on were the club are and how we are doing.
i have said these angels who stuck it to the likes of myself ruddy bills son etc even though i know we can all give it as well but we were the massive minority at the time putting a view across and we got slaughtered for it i even got called a mackem for god sake!!
maybe you have not experienced that level of abuse it was no doubt keyboard bullying without doubt at the time and the lemon suckers still drag every opportunity to keep harpng on about things negativly at the toon when we have such a happy ship.
Certain things in life you dont forget and for me this situation was one of them.
This is a blog i give my opinion if i dont like something i will let them have it, if i do i will praise it.
On this issue ie the toon issue and everything about it im way to far down the line with diplomacy.
some tried to put me in changi jail on here and other blogs, didnt work, just try it again and your in for a rollercoaster!!! once bitten!!!!
74 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 3:03 PM
Catchy….Does this sponsor matter? Debatable. Does it matter who sponsors us? Yes, of course. There are certainly organisations out there that you shouldn’t or wouldn’t want to take money from.
Selby…..Run, run as fast as you can. You’ll need to change your name, get a new passport. Don’t take any possessions or let any friends or family know your whereabouts. I wish you luck, you nasty so and so.
Pushy….You see, personally, whilst there are some posters that on a blog social level (if you will) I generally prefer to engage with, I am of the opinion that anyone, no matter which camp they fall in to, can make valid points. One day, someone may something that makes me think “god, how thick are you?” and then the next “wow, there is a brain”. With that in mind, I try and take a point by point view and will usually try and engage in debate with whoever is up for it, rather than those who I have previously agreed with. I thought that is the general idea of the blog.
I have noticed that us optimists can be very quick to jump in front of negativity, I feel that has come about as negative rubbish at times can snowball like crazy. Within 5 minutes I’ve seen the blog melt down with hysteria over very little. The same things happen with the other “camps”. This has been discussed at great lengths. What I would like if for people to return to the blog and try and debate like reasonable people. Some will get offended, it’s bound to happen, just as some will overstep the mark, I assume most people are able to say “hang on a minute, I don’t like your attitude or where this is going, let’s just leave it and move on for now – pick it up some other time” or even as far as “I really don’t get where you’re coming from, rather than insult each other, shall we ignore one another?”
Ruddy will not just idly sit on here and let people spout things like “Shola is sh*t” – nor do I think he should. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, just as people are entitled to comment on that opinion, otherwise don’t put it on an open blog.
I hope this makes sense. I have taken your post in the spirit intended, I have no problem discussing things with people when they explain themselves and where they are coming from. It’s little snippets of rubbish that grind me
Until next time Ian’s PR dept….I mean pushy 
75 Tsunki // Oct 10, 2012 at 3:05 PM
Wonga everybody! What’s the subject now?
76 Tsunki // Oct 10, 2012 at 3:08 PM
I blame that Willo character. For everything.
Where IS Ketsy?
77 Deadpool // Oct 10, 2012 at 3:10 PM
Our club is clearly being made into a profitable business that finds success in mediocrity.
We will spend little, sell big and find talent for profit,
We will remain mid table for the next decade and will blame everything other than face the truth, we wanted this low priced sponsorship deal to ensure we don’t have to spend more.
Sit back, watch and enjoy the worst time in the clubs history.
Many will not share this view but time will make a fool of me or you.
Nice to meet you all by the way.
Deadpool is the name, truth is the game.
78 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 3:10 PM
Tsunki….Stop it, I’ve started answering the phone saying it. I haven’t seen Kets, he’s probably busy drawing up next summers transfer plans.
79 catchy in norway // Oct 10, 2012 at 3:13 PM
There carnt be many posters on here that have a 100% squeaky clean past, they have done no wrong in there lives, for them to get in there high horses,
I bet these same ppl that call Mashley still buy all there cheap sports stuff from his shops, knowing full well that the guy isn’t being honest with the fans of our club,
One minut we are saying the club is being run right , the next we arnt,
To be honest , the financial side of things of the club we will never know what is being done, for me we are being lied to all the time, good accounts to do wonders, we have 52000 fans most matches , sell shit loads of shirts and other things, get good tv money, have a much lower salary structure than most clubs sell a lot of players for good money, and we still don’t make as much as Wigan or west brom,
We just get told to believe,
As fans we really should be more concerned with how the team is playing, and right now the playing side of things looks much worse than the financial side of things,
80 Tsunki // Oct 10, 2012 at 3:14 PM
Feverishly rearranging pannini stickers and trying to find this Wonga fella – hoping he is a world class cb.
Wonga! Deadpool. Spreading cheer, you are on a loser in this place ha ha
81 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 3:14 PM
Deadpool…..Truth is the game? You say one of us will be proved a fool, doesn’t that indicate what you say is an opinion?
“we wanted this low priced sponsorship deal to ensure we don’t have to spend more.” – Are you saying the board didn’t want more money from sponsors so they wouldn’t have to improve the team too much, therefore increasing fans expectations? Or am I reading too much in to it?
Pleased to meet you, hope you guess my name.
82 Tsunki // Oct 10, 2012 at 3:17 PM
Tsunki by name. Tsunki by nature. How’s that?
83 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 3:17 PM
Cyprus thought you had put the chart up to show we are no worse than other in the prem for sponsors.
Then you say its the worst bit of admin the club has ever done under this administration / that was calling it SD Arena for me.
Part of the deal was bringing back SJP sorry cannot agree at all with comment before.,that means such a lot.
That said thanks for the link from the mail.
84 Tsunki // Oct 10, 2012 at 3:19 PM
Ooh and catchy, a smile a cheer and a song in his heart.
85 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 3:19 PM
Catchy…You’re indeed correct with regards to the accounting aspect. We all know what a clever accountant can do for a business.
As for the teams current performances, they haven’t been good, we know that. I’m waiting to see what happens when we have our players back and when certain players like Cabaye get back in to the swing of things. He is so important to us imo. Getting Krul and Colo back will be important too.
I do agree though, performances should improve.
86 Deadpool // Oct 10, 2012 at 3:24 PM
Ibizatoon that is indeed what I an implying.
My truth is to not deny my own opinion regardless of how defeatist it may seem to those that deny their own true opinions in order to remain positive.
It equates to what the banks are currently doing refusing to loan out money in order to keep costs down.
It’s a sure fire way to retain value in any market.
87 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 3:31 PM
Deadpool, Well you seem a tad full of yourself, but look whose talking!
Time will tell, I will continue to deny my real opinions in order to remain optimistic (Brilliant I must say) in the meantime.
I feel you and I will get along just fine. Any other words of wisdom, not sure I’ve got my fix yet.
88 wynsleap // Oct 10, 2012 at 3:35 PM
Ibizatoon – I don’t always agree with you about this club and/or its owner but your posts are always well mannered and thought out. You sir are a gentleman.
89 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 3:35 PM
Whoooaaa, deadpool ,you say we are going to be stuck in mid table mediocrity???
so that dosnt include last seasons fantastic effort by everyone at the club or are you just missing last season out?????
did you say we would be near relegation last season is the question i always ask when i hear these sorts of comments??? well!¬!!!
Would you face our playing coaching and scouting staff and say that if you could.
we have improved year in year out, we all know players coming back as well, i think we have a terrific team and are capable of another well above mid table season.
no disrespect to stoke but they are mid table and we have left them standing without doubt.
you see its your sort of viewpoint that is just so annoying,
again arsenal is our blueprint and a very good one at that, we are three years in, they have been doing it for 15
your post is an insult to players and staff at SJP.
Again i will ask did you think it would take us three years at least to get out of the coca cola??
I just know you are the type that would.
90 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 3:40 PM
Yea Wyn, ibiza is a seasoned pro at this game he knows how to hold the reigns in or pull back.
Would make a decent politician for san an bay wor ibiza.
Im to the point one way and dont give no leeway if i think its a negative, me bad politician.
91 hotdog // Oct 10, 2012 at 3:41 PM
oooh no Beefman is after new boy Deadpool. Sit back and enjoy the fireworks
92 tequilamag // Oct 10, 2012 at 3:41 PM
Well just finished doing my accounts for last year and if Newcastles are anywhere near as bad we are in deep S**t.
And before anyone makes the suggestion I will not be getting a Wonga loan.
93 cyprus // Oct 10, 2012 at 3:43 PM
Ok,
on football plusses. We have one of the best goalies in the league (world?), two top Argentine internationals, the French playmaker and French Messi, the new Maldini, a tiger in MF and two deserving no.9′s!
Make this group gel AP and we’re in for a great ride
94 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 3:45 PM
Wynsleap…..Ha. Don’t think I am not opinionated mind, just open minded as possible. I am open to the idea I can be proved wrong with well thought out reasonable response – stranger things have happened.
It has got to the point on here with this us and them mentality where we don’t seem to be able to engage anymore – it’s really becoming a joke.
We wont always agree, but we should try and remain respectful – but that is a two way street and I will usually call it as I see it, not everything can be doom and gloom, whilst I appreciate, not everything Ashley does for the club will be wonderful.
Thanks anyway.
Beefman – San An? Come on now, give me some credit – the place is a toilet
95 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 3:45 PM
Cyprus just play the formation that starts after half time and we are in the wonga!
96 cyprus // Oct 10, 2012 at 3:48 PM
Well said Beefman. Unfortunately the damn thing is for 90′
97 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 3:49 PM
And the crowd begin to cheer “Cyprus, Cyprus!”
Tequila…..Sorry to hear that mate. Would you consider sponsorship or re-branding? Sorry, not a joking matter, just not sure which direction this one can go – you’ve killed the wonga loan joke dead in it’s tracks.
98 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 3:51 PM
Ibiza, thats right you could be the Respect candidate for mmmmmmm? what about Portinatx?
I could defo see that.
99 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 3:51 PM
Beefman and Cyrpus…How about as part of the warm up exercise Pardew get’s the team to play a 45 minute game, so when we kick off, the players are already in that second half state of mind? Shola will only last 15 minutes of the official game, but it might work
100 tequilamag // Oct 10, 2012 at 3:52 PM
Not dead in the water yet mate, I always land on my feet one way or another. Might have to delay my offer to sponsor the toon though.
101 catchy in norway // Oct 10, 2012 at 3:52 PM
Ibiza
Cabaye will just fine if Pardew moves him up the pitch, IMO
Colo and Taylor are missed ,
Krul could not have done better with the goals from Man U , that was poor defending and a fluke goal,
102 cyprus // Oct 10, 2012 at 3:53 PM
Ibiza,
yep! Vs. Ireland 5-2, vs. Spain 3-2! Ok, clutching at straws, but true nonetheless
103 toon1707 // Oct 10, 2012 at 3:53 PM
Does anyone really think the stadum naming rights is included as I don’t I think the 8 million is shirt sponsors only but as ashley knew we would be up in arms about it (which I am not I think its good business) he changed the name back and said it was what wonga.com wanted so we would all think wonga are fantastic just my opinion
104 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 3:53 PM
Oi Deadpool, you horrible snivvvvviling little git were are you, ha ha
Just be careful now?
105 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 3:55 PM
Tequila….Honestly, how much of the companies budget went to a certain Snr. Cuervo?
Beefman….I suppose I have to start somewhere, and Portinatx is preferable to San Antonio for me.
106 tequilamag // Oct 10, 2012 at 3:57 PM
toon 1707 interesting possibility, perhaps if there had not been such a hostile reaction to the Wonga deal we could have been looking forward to playing in the Wonga arena next season. The last thing Ashley would have wanted was for another season of Newcastle fans up in arms and lots of negative press reaction.
107 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 3:58 PM
Cyprus, yea just start the second 45 tactics 45 mins early.
To be fair everyone can see its not till we get a kick up the butt that we respond, i like the african lads a lot but its not written on the rosetta stone that they have to start every game.
108 tequilamag // Oct 10, 2012 at 3:59 PM
Jose Cuervo is considered a legitimate business expense and therefore tax deductible. But yeah quite a lot.
109 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:01 PM
Beefman @104…Good to see my influence is having an impact on ya
Toon1707…You could shorten that question to the first four words.
Cyprus….Not sure on the international thing, but your positives on some of the quality we have was appreciated. Some bloody good players at the toon at the moment.
Catchy…I’m sure he’ll be fine, not sure it’s just been down to his position, he has been a bit off the pace. Not worried though. Both CB’s will certainly help. Didn’t see the Man U game, so can’t comment. I have been impressed with Harper and Elliot though so far, but would always prefer Krul between the sticks.
110 cyprus // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:03 PM
Beefman,
I do see AP’s dilemma, apart from the two players moaning. Surely, one can play up front, then the other, like (the jerks) Rooney and VP?
111 tequilamag // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:03 PM
Ibiza were you painting your fence when the Man U game was on ?
112 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:04 PM
Tequila…Understandable. It’s a motivational tool, right?
113 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:05 PM
Ibiza, i can see you sitting in one of those little white building offices waiting for calls to pick people up and show the around a gaff, you would be good at that,
A bit like the estate agent in rocky 2 you and bubkis.
now that is a winning team.
114 t00ntime // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:07 PM
Lol MA isnt going to change the name back so that we like wonga… Tbf theres nothing wrong with wonga sponsering us.
Are ITV/sky immoral because they show wonga adverts? No they are in it for the money, like we are.
Besides as jezus once said (According to the bible)
*people throwing rocks at a guy*
Jezus:” stop, only throw a rock if u have NEVER done ANYTHING wrong”
(short story lol)
So i hope the people complaining about wonga being immoral have never done anything immoral in there lives otherwise they cant really complain
Or am i just been unreasonable?
115 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:08 PM
Tequila….People always underestimate preventative maintenance. Winter is coming and it needs protecting. I had actually been playing with your name sake the evening prior, woke late, was behind with work, so didn’t get to the TV until Cleverly scored. I decided I had probably been served some luck and left the room and continued with my day.
116 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:09 PM
Thinking that myself tequilla how on earth would you miss the man utd game, were you showing your clients a property? must have been i would not take any other excuse for it in fact.
117 tequilamag // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:10 PM
t00ntime not sure who this Jezus fella is.
Does he play in La Liga ?
118 catchy in norway // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:10 PM
Painting the fence might have been better than watching that shit,
Ppl say what can we expect it was Man U, but I think we where afraid of the name more than the team, cos sorry other than RVP and Rooney the rest of there team is average compared to Man U teams of the past,
An average Man U team made us look very poor at home
I know I’m probably looking through black an white specs here, but I think our team is better than there’s, the difference is the managers
119 tequilamag // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:12 PM
Ibiza, now it makes sense you have my sympathy.
120 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:13 PM
Beefman….Are you suggestion my political spin works in my line of work?
Oh yes, don’t mind the water coming from the ceiling there, we introduced this huge walk in shower in the middle of the lounge as an improvement
121 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:15 PM
tOOntime, thats what sucks with me, us good honest smowkin drinkin gambling womanising salt of the earth geordie lads being so morally correct and as Neil Diamond said Money Talks!
(dont smoke by the way)
122 tequilamag // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:16 PM
Catchy, p*ss poor defending of set pieces but it happens. Performance picked up after that. Very optimistic that with Saylor and Colo and dare I say it Simmo back we will see a much better team performance against the unwashed.
123 tequilamag // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:19 PM
Now that peace has broken out I don`t want to get into another day of arguing about Wonga but morality is a relative subject. Yes I smoke and drink and not averse to a bit of womanising but at that the same time I wouldn`t crap on someone for the sake of a few quid.
124 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:20 PM
So your a maintance man ibiza, my next line was a hong kong phooey type of affair!
glad you cleared that one up
125 t00ntime // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:20 PM
@tequilla hahaha i dont think we are talking about the same guy lol xD
126 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:21 PM
Tequilla in big business especially, crapping on people is the law!
127 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:22 PM
Tequila & Beef…When did we put the fists down lads? Don’t let my middle of the road cr*p slow you down. We want blood!
Beef…Nope, i’m not a maintenance man. Please, I need these hands for typing 24/7
I have a property management company, deal with bookings, client requests, check-in/check-outs and crews. Well, that’s my part time job anyway, we all know what my main job and time consumer is.
128 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:23 PM
I always liked Top Cat, sorry HotDog!
129 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:23 PM
Beefman…That sadly is the general view point. I personally admire people that try and run their business with proper morals and ethics, it isn’t easy.
130 tequilamag // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:26 PM
Beefman maybe that why my accounts were bad this year. I am just not enough of B*****d.
131 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:26 PM
Alright then UK based people. Flying back over to Sunny England tomorrow for a couple of days and need to hire a car. Any decent company recommendations? Only ethical ones please, that means no supporting oil companies!
Joking aside, any tips would be appreciated
132 pbNcl // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:27 PM
Right! Who wants tea?!
You wanna talk about false beefman? I’ve seen more beef in a quorn patty
Ill say once again, keyboard warrior
Now play nice
133 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:27 PM
Tequila…I’m not having that mate. Don’t put yourself down, you are indeed a huge b*st*rd.
134 nick_9 // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:29 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/newcastles-muslim-stars-told-dont-play-in-new-wonga-tops-8204411.html
Hope if this issue arises then the club understands where they are coming from.
135 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:29 PM
pbNcl….Shhh…..they’ve calmed down. However, don’t mind a bit of Quorn – wait, what are their practices like? This is going to become difficult.
136 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:30 PM
Nick9…..This issue is a funny one for me. Why single out Wonga? Surely the PL is corrupt and non-ethical as it is for the Muslim faith? I am no expert though.
137 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:31 PM
Ibiza, there are not many moralistic multi millionaires kicking about as we know.
I hate to say this but i dont think you are going to be covered in masses of wonga!
Not a bad lifestyle though for yourself in ibiza ,so you aint done to bad!
i suppose many are quite envious and rightly so, its starting to chill over in geordieland now.
bet its mid seventies over there, cant ask for any more than that. perfect.
138 tequilamag // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:32 PM
Cheers for that Ibiza , now get back on your fence u t*ss*r.
139 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:35 PM
Beefman….I do okay. The sunshine and quality of life is worth more to me however, so I’m a happy person. I wont mention temperatures, as it generally is responded to with anger
140 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:36 PM
Hey ibiza maybe i was a bit hard on you i think if you really stick in and spend less time fannying about on blog sites you might just make it!!!
Hey i might as well.
141 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:36 PM
Tequila….
Back later no doubt. Play nicely and if you can’t, make sure you finish the other person off. Bye.
142 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:37 PM
Beefman….Maybe, but we’ll probably never know. Take it easy
143 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:38 PM
Oi, pb i told u before how i like my tea you cretin! did you not read my post properly? now chop chop and a couple of hob nobs while your at it pet!
144 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:47 PM
pb, im definatly a keyboard warrior i have had to be i supported MA when KK got the shove. so you can imagine i had to toughen myself up on the old keyboards.
four years in and im as tough as teak! no surrender
av been in the trenches countless times!
i even told KK he was a out of order for not giving anyone a second chance and leaving us in no mans land
when my back up its up, top cat no problemo.
145 ichrisho // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:48 PM
Has anyone read this today?
AndrewOctober 10, 2012 at 2:03 pmReply
“hi all, prob going to get into trouble for saying this but i work at nufc i can confirm that the deal is worth 8 mil for shirt sponsor plus 12 mil for stadium yes it will be st james park but what you may not know there will be wonga signs in and around the ground . also not to mention the 1.5 in the investment of our youth system. so all up thats 21.5mil a year in sponsor money .. thats very good i think”
146 pbNcl // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:48 PM
I’ve got chocolate digestives, and non dairy milk. You’ll have to provide your own cup tho, or should I say MUG hehe
Phooooo, any other news apart from ethics and financial piracy?
147 pbNcl // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:53 PM
I haven’t got the patience to sit and angrily bash out harsh words. Means nowt really. I’ve got enough aggro in real life to let the internet bother me hahaha
Wonga are still 5hite tho. And MA is a clown for doins business with them.
I’m enjoying fifa13 tho = D
148 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 4:55 PM
Ichrisho, i would be quite nicely surprised with that.
lets just please get that quality cover for centre half with the bit and maybe debuchy.
Beacuse mr michael williamson that was your life!
149 stk85 // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:00 PM
i dont care what other clubs do
i care what MY CLUB does and nufc should represent the community and it values and not be advertising a loan shark
remember when villa were sponsored by a childs charity? or barca by unicef?
also, wonga have done 2.5m loans in the last year and made 50m in profit. that’s disgusting
150 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:04 PM
pb ,as has been said in big business there are no prisoners.
you have to be a ruthless total bastard
MA may be that mind!
151 Gateshead-Mag // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:06 PM
i love wonga, wonga ,wonga ,wonga
152 pbNcl // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:09 PM
MA is exactly that, ruthless. However he has constantly now disrespected the city in which he does business, and brought shame to our club by sticking wonga on our shirt! How do you think the players feel about this? We’ve got a squad of good lads, and they will probs feel a bit ashamed to ‘represent’ a company that makes a fortune out of hard up families when, they themselves, will doubtfully be in that position. The deal brings problems from virtually all angles! Surely you can see this mr beef?
153 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:11 PM
stk85, many folk were grateful for those loans, plus do you want no one to make a profit they provide a service.
you ask for a loan and you get one you pay it back.
2.5 million people had loans, did you have one!
if not thats your choice
many people neede that outlet
they obviously provide a decent service judging by the numbers of loans they are giving out.
Are you a football fan or a harry krishna OR ARE YOU A WIND UP MERCHANT
MAYBE THE LAST ONE I THINK!
154 Gateshead-Mag // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:13 PM
pbncl
am sorry but i dont see how hes disrespected the city by putting wonga on the shirts
think everyone has over reacted here like
chill out winstons!!
its a company, there sponsoring us get over it!!
u’d think he was putting pictures of jimmy saville on the tops
155 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:14 PM
pb i have known you now for 4/5 hours we have had a bit of a war already, do you honestly think im going to start slagging the owner off?
you should know me better than that bonny lad.
156 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:18 PM
pb im sure our over pampered 20/30/40/50/60 k a week footballers are going to be bothered about wearing the wonga shirt! sticks and stones.
pb 2.5 million loans given out to yes families who need them, do you think wonga forced them to take a loan, i dont think so, also i bet they had a nice cheesy grin when they were given the money.
157 pbNcl // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:18 PM
These few hours have been magical I must say hahaha. I stand by my morals and am proud to be an upstanding honest person, I’m not perfect but I don’t hurt people or rip people off… Like wonga. Yes people have a choice, but little choice, hence why they go there in the first place.
And don’t get me started on jimmy bloody nonce saville! Hang the lot of them, including saville! Dig him out of his concrete and hang him!!
158 Munster Mag // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:19 PM
Hmm, so now its looks like its not even a great deal ( much the same as Virgin i think ? ) , and we are still sporting the name of an undesireable shark company? Nice one Mike , keep it up. ( Better still , try SPENDING SOME MONEY ON THE TEAM ) , you might find it helps build the clubs profile too.
159 Gateshead-Mag // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:19 PM
beefman13
exactly mate
im sorry but everyone blaming wonga for the downfall of society really needs to grow up like
no-one needs to borrow from these people, everyone knows the prices,
thats like blaming cannabis for people taking drugs, canabis is a drug, it exists, the cannabis does not make people smoke it, it is not the cannabis’ fault that people smoke it, people make there own decisions in life.
160 toon smart // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:20 PM
Right thats it!
I am going out and getting wonga’d!
161 ToonDarnSarf // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:20 PM
For anyone who doesn’t know, the issue between Islam and companies like Wonga is the charging of interest. So it’s one thing having a traditional bank with relatively balanced interest rates, another thing when a company’s policy is essentially to exploit the needy by charging massive interest rates when they are unable to access other lines of credit.
Saying that…I think it’s just the media stirring things up. Wonga already sponsor Blackpool and Hearts.
162 Gateshead-Mag // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:21 PM
that should have read no one HAS to borrow*
163 pbNcl // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:21 PM
You can hardly call tiote pampered. And it wouldn’t suprise me if a few left because of this! Some footballers have a moral code believe it not! They aint all john terry!
164 ToonDarnSarf // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:22 PM
For anyone who doesn’t know, the issue between Islam and companies like Wonga is the charging of interest. So it’s one thing having a traditional bank with relatively balanced interest rates, another thing when a company’s policy is essentially to exploit the needy by charging massive interest rates when they are unable to access other lines of credit.
165 toon smart // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:22 PM
@PbNcl
Great morals – hang a dead person?
166 ToonDarnSarf // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:22 PM
For anyone who doesn’t know, the issue between Islam and companies like Wonga is the charging of interest. So it’s one thing having a traditional bank with relatively balanced interest rates, another thing when a company’s policy is essentially to exploit the needy by charging massive interest rates when they are unable to access other lines of credit.
Saying that…I think it’s just the media stirring things up. Wonga already sponsor Blackpool and Hearts.
167 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:23 PM
Tell you what sir jimmy did a hell of a lot of good charity work!
Just cos he did masses of kiddy fiddling dosnt make him an utterly depraved mega horror shit does it!
Surely not ha ha
168 one Tony Green // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:23 PM
PbNCl get over yourself bet your like half the supposed fans on here and do go to the match every week yet constantly bleating on.
Barclays mis sold pensions , PPI, manipulated the libor to control interest rates and sold small businesses obscene insurance and they sponsor the whole league.
169 toon smart // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:24 PM
@ToonDarnSarf
The christian and islamic religions are against any form of interest, so this includes banks as well.
170 Gateshead-Mag // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:24 PM
toon smart
i think that was toung in cheek from pbncl hahaha
unless hes a grave digger
171 pbNcl // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:25 PM
Been lovely lads but I gotta go.
Ill be back when there’s other things to discuss. Like global warming and the dairy trade
Love and peace
172 toon smart // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:27 PM
@ Gateshead
I hope so too
173 toon smart // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:28 PM
I must say the more i hear the word wonga the more i feel like putting it into my everyday word usage
I think it can be used as a substitute for many more crude words
174 toon smart // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:30 PM
Come back pbNcl the climate has jsut started to warm up!
175 Gateshead-Mag // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:30 PM
toon smart
i started the idea of some wonga chants………
but its seemed it only appealed to me, either that or everyone was just ignoring me
lol
176 pbNcl // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:31 PM
Here are you havin a fu*kin laugh? Stickin up for a nonce!? I don’t give a 5hit if he gave a trillion to charity. The internet is full of freaks and you are definately one of them. This blog’s went downhill recently and a lot of people don’t bother anymore. You wanna support a nonce, then get off the internet you clown and gan down the bigmarket with your views on a friday and see what that gets ya. I hate plebs like you with a passion. I could of let the wonga stuff go, but nee way am I forgettin that
177 Quasi.modo // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:31 PM
Interesting perspectives on the pros/cons of the Wonga deal, if it is 8mill a year for shirts and an extra 12 mill a year for the naming rights then surely even the most ardent anti-MA supporter would have to tip their hats and say that’s good business.
At the end of the day, whether it is morally right or morally wrong, dealing with arguably unscrupulous companies is what we as a club may have to do to get to the next level.
If, hypothetically, this Wonga deal financed the signings of 2/3 top quality players that we need to push on for top 4 will people retrospectively see it as good business or say that we made a deal with the devil in order to succeed? I know that scenario is pretty black or white but it would be interesting to hear people’s views.
178 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:32 PM
toondarf, we sell newsprint big time at NUFC thats why they always stitch us up, i really cant remember any other team with any other drink/financial sponsor getting done over by the press like we have.
tony green, by what a kid he was, done the beardsley move way before pedro, he was a toon suoerstar and bar injury would have been mega for us for a long time.
So true by the way about those crooks at barclays.
when you think about it they have literally been robbing folk for years with these scams they pull
About time some of them got put in the big house for it i think, its a massive massive fraud they are pulling every time.
179 Transfer Sage // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:34 PM
Beefman
Some people need money for emergencies and have no where else to turn.
Just because your Dont need to or people you know doesn’t mean some people haven’t fallen onto very hard times and are desperate for cash.
However there are a lot of equally as bad and worse companies around
Chelsea’s owner has reportably been involved in a lot worse that charging high interest rates.
180 pbNcl // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:35 PM
And na. I would dig him up and hang the c*nt. Ivenjoyed posting on here but unfortunately it seems like its full of absolute cocks now so this is the last from me. If people wanna support nonces I suggest they get off the computer and gan get the hiding they deserve.
Ibiza and the other good lads, farewell. I can’t take dealin with freaks, I don’t have to in real life so I aint gonna here. F*ck em
181 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:40 PM
Quasi, there are many deals done with the devil especially in high end business,
they do what is right for them if they feel its right they wont give a monkeys about the company they are dealing with.
no sentimentality involved whatsoever
its ruthless beyond belief
Our owner has skin like a brontosaurous im sure you have noticed he will do things if he thinks it is the right thing to do
the proposed deal being bandied about is a very good deal for me
i really think january will see a couple of quality signings come in.,were we need them!
182 pbNcl // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:42 PM
I’m lucky enough to not have to suffer fools in life, and I don’t tolerate 5hit. Unfortunately the internet is full of scum who get brave behind a computer and spout all sorts of 5hite. I’ve been pushed to the limit here, so to all the good lads on this blog, I bid you farewell. I’m calling it a day. I can’t sit and have people defend jimmy saville in my presence. I won’t be posting again. The internet has major flaws.
Big respect ED love what you do. Shame a lot of good posters have left because of clown
183 Carryingcoals // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:43 PM
Gateshead-Mag
I’ve been reading a lot on here the past few days, especially the bits where beefman goes up against the moral objectors.
I personally am not thrilled by the deal although I do condone it and I can see the positives for the club, again showing that Ashley has done the best deal from a business perspective.
However despite approving the deal and being an Ashley fan in general, (he saved our club and we are doing very well at present, I like following the Arsenal blueprint), I disagree with what you’ve said earlier.
PbNcl is very correct in what he has said about Ashley constantly disrespecting the fans and city. You said @ 154,
‘am sorry but i dont see how hes disrespected the city by putting wonga on the shirts’
Ashley is the mind of the club, the fans are the heart. Ashley does what he wants to better his business(the club). He disrespects the fans by not listening to what they say and I can understand how people see him as inhumane. He thinks in £££ (yes wonga ironically). The disrespect is there for all to see as he doesn’t acknowledge/consider the objectors. He changed the name of the club for instance.
Now, whilst I think Ashley is good for the club, as you need someone to run it astutely with a business mind (Shepherd didn’t do that) I think the people should still be heard, viewed and considered.
You cannot hide the fact he disrespects the fans. He does. Some mind this more than others of course.
Ashley will never change, in a way this is good for the club. However, he has his flaws. The negligence of the fans being a prominent one.
184 Quasi.modo // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:47 PM
Beefman
I had this discussion last night with my dad, I said that I thought that MA deliberately changed the name to Sports Direct Arena in November 2011 so that he could charge incoming companies for the pleasure of changing it back to SJP. No new company would want to alienate themselves from the fans and would make the obvious decision (like Wonga have done) and changed the name back to SJP.
MA knows that the fans already hated him so he shouldered the burden of the naming rights himself so the club could ultimately financially benefit, I could be completely wrong here and perhaps MA only wanted free advertising and nothing more but I think he is a smarter business man than a lot are giving him credit for.
So if we have commanded a sizeable fee from Wonga for the naming rights then surely that is a stroke of genius from MA? Big money and SJP back!
I only want to put the feelers out as I want to know if people’s moral objections go out the window if the money that Wonga provide brings us some success.
185 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:48 PM
Transfer sage, thereare alot of worse companys about than wonga.
of course a lot of folk are forced in to going for loans but thats not wongas fault imo
2.5 million people that 50 times the capacity of SJP have had loans from them, times are hard a recession is here, people do what they have to to get by.
christ, barclays actually fiddled the interest rates pure and diliberate dishonest premeditated thievery as fagan would say
And they are sponsor the premier league, i did not see any outcry about that from the press.
186 Gateshead-Mag // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:51 PM
carryingcoals
i dont disagree that he HAS disrespected the fans in the psst, i just disagree that that wonga on our shirts is disrespecting anyone.
us as fans have no-say what so ever in things such as sponsorship of the club and never will have, i think the whole thing has been so over-hyped by the media and social networking, people just seemed to have blind hatred towards wonga. a company that provides a service, that people CHOOSE to take
in a world where a very high percentage of companies have very questionable policies and goings on behind closed doors
a company that already sponsors 2 other british clubs
187 Carryingcoals // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:51 PM
You only have to look at the genuine outrage, upset and disappointment posted on this blog to show his disrespect is very evident and relevant.
Personally I don’t feel disrespected because I don’t object as much as say Transfer Sage does – I do however understand what he is saying.
I’m 21, I’ve gone through a degree and worked part time to help support student life, whilst getting a student loan too of course. I’ve never had to use Wonga and I have no experience of how it can harm people. I’m very aware some people will regularly use it and appreciate it, whilst others are almost forced in to it and are pretty much victims of it. Maybe this is naivety on my part and if I knew the true evils, I’d object more.
What I do know is, Ashley has brokered the deal which has benefited the football club as a football club. Investment is there in all areas of the club and they seem very pleased about signing it.
I subscribe to the thought that evils exist in all areas of the game, sponsorships from companies who can all be argued as to being involved with some sort of corruption or evil.
We do not live in an ideal world, we have to be pragmatic which is what Ashley is doing. It is a crying shame as I’ve said since hearing of the deal because it is poor to be associated with them. However, it’s done and I’ve got to be honest, it doesn’t make me want to stop going to the games or supporting the club. I don’t find it abhorrent, I’m a football fan and that’s where my focus lies.
188 ToonDownSouth // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:52 PM
Stupid comparison Ed. Warrior Sports are a kit manufacturer, not a shirt sponsor.
And just because MA and DL said they were looking at £10m for naming rights does not mean that was EVER feasible.
We were NEVER going to get more than £1-2m a year for the stadium name. The chances are that it’s been thrown in as a free, so that Wonga can look good to the Newcastle public.
I’ve read so so so much ill-informed sh!t posted by people on here this last couple of days.
189 ToonDarnSarf // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:53 PM
Toon smart – yep, but most folk are a little flexible with their belief systems these days and understand that interest for banks isn’t necessarily evil. Banks are needed to provide business loans, mortgages etc. I’d bet most Wonga customers just want a night out or holiday. It’s not a solution for paying bills, most of those companies will be flexible with payments. So Wonga is a business that is purely selfish.
190 ToonDownSouth // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:54 PM
Als, Wonga are a pay-day lender, not a fcking unemployment lender.
All this ‘what if people can’t afford food?’ crap is nonsense.
191 Carryingcoals // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:54 PM
Gateshead-Mag
I see, fair enough.
I do think he HAS disrespected on this occasion too though. We heard about the deal before it was signed, a good few days before as I recall and there was a lot of opposition against it.
The North East in particular fall prey to these sort of companies who are booming due to the present economic climate.
Can you see where I’m coming from? ie the nature of the city, the people who live here, attend the games even.
Wonga take money from people who NEED them, from people who are poor basically. That’s mostly the case. North East is a notoriously poor area. You can see how this outrages and insults people…
192 Gateshead-Mag // Oct 10, 2012 at 5:56 PM
i agree with most of your points there mate especially other people having different out-looks and so-on and i dont wish to dis-credit anyones opinion. just merely putting my opinion across that i see very little wrong with the whole wonga deal.
i disagree however that people are forced to use them. they have not been around forever, people struggled on through without them.
i think the social issue would be better focused on educating people more on money matters and stuff rather than just blindly pointing the finger at the service.
ie the point i made at 159 on cannabis
193 Marty-Toon // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:01 PM
Cabaye could be out for the trip to the unwashed
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11678/8155545/Newcastle-United-midfielder-Yohan-Cabaye-could-be-a-doubt-for-the-Tyne-Wear-derby-with-abdominal-pains
This doesnt really say much as it could be anything but I’d rather have him on the field than Tiote at the moment.
194 Carryingcoals // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:03 PM
Yes, sorry you’re right – nobody is forced to use them, poor word choice on my behalf.
Wonga are a product of our time. As ibiza argued yesterday, the government should be more relevant here.
I wholeheartedly agree though, people should be better informed/educated when it comes to using things like Wonga.
Of course, they aren’t illegal but still, I can see how they take advantage of the needy.
My position on the matter is, I see them far from ideal, but we don’t live in an ideal world. Ashley makes these decisions, these are the kind of decisions that make him a very good businessman.
There are pro’s and con’s of having him here. I ‘put up’ with the cons as I’m very happy with the direction the club seems to be going in terms of how we are as a FOOTBALL club.
Good points made, thanks for responding
195 Quasi.modo // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:06 PM
What are people more angry with? Wonga’s practices as a point of principle or MA for bringing such a “disreputable” bunch into our club?
196 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:06 PM
Question Ashley, question Wonga, even question Pardew, but don’t you go bringing cannabis into this Hyphen. You’ve been warned.
Carrying…Come on now, make your point – not like you to sit in between opinions.
Beefman @167….Was that a joke, albeit in bad taste?
197 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:09 PM
Marty…Saw that a little while ago. Doesn’t sound very conclusive mind. It’s unlikely he’ll feature for France, well we have 2 weeks until the mackems, well just under, but close enough.
We’ll see nearer the time I guess. Why didn’t Ashley buy another midfielder?!??!?!
198 Gateshead-Mag // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:10 PM
ibiza
are you against cannabis in general or just as an argument?
199 BelfastMagpie // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:11 PM
Getting my wallet back 2moro woo hoo lol
Somebody handed it into the cops.
So im not blaming wonga anymore
200 Carryingcoals // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:12 PM
ibiza
I’ve made it! I can see how it is a bad thing and I’m not thrilled by it. I just don’t find it as abhorrent as many do and I believe that it is good for the club in terms of the project and development we have going on. Condone is certainly the better word to use than approve, I think.
I always try to take in to account both sides, even if I 100% believe in the one I’m arguing. People who are ignorant of other POV’s on this blog are what let’s it down.
… or were you being sarcastic, as a fellow splintered backside fence boy?!
201 Gateshead-Mag // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:13 PM
belfast
shame theres no money in it though what with that last interet repayment you just made lol
202 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:14 PM
Hyphen….I may have said too much already. I’ll just say it’s a natural plant and cannot speak for itself and I believe in standing up for the voiceless
203 Gateshead-Mag // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:14 PM
intrest*
204 BelfastMagpie // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:14 PM
Fair play to who ever handed it in.
Money štill in it.
Shocked at that to be honest lol
205 Gateshead-Mag // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:16 PM
ibiza
such a selfless man!!
206 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:17 PM
Carryingcoals, you say MA has continually disrespected the fans i have not been disrespected by him i dont hate him. as has been said the SD arena was A BUGGAR BUT THAT MAY HAVE JUST SOFTNED THE BLOW FOR PRESPECTIVE buyers, wonga definatly must have thought it was not a good idea to call it the wonga arena and so it would not have been of course, there but for the grace of god.
I will say this i red up on MA quite a bit and it was often said about him that he is a top businessman, parked his tanks on other companys lawns and then waited form the right time when the set company was on its way out then moved the tanks in., QUITE RECENTLY JJB WHO SNIGGERED AT HIM WHEN WE GOT RELEGATED.
I knew the way he operated, he does not do feelings he makes money and maybe the best in the country at it
i accepted that and whilst certain decisions have been hard to take ie houghton getting the sack and the original namechange i knew he would have done them for his investmentif he thought it was right which again i think in both cases to be true, we have SJP back as prospective buyers new it was a bad idea to go there..
AP its been a double manager of the season, GOT US IN EUROPE. again the right decision as much as i liked CH.
Has MA a consiance not much to be honest, will he step on folks feelings if he genuinely thinks its best for his investment, without a doubt he will.
I get it, the billionaires of this world just do what they have to do to get the result i know our feelings take jolt now and again but he isnt trying to hurt the geordienation in my opinion he is doing what he believes is the best thing to do.
We are doing ok from were i am standing, and i mean that.
PS who would you have been happy with sponsoring us if it had of been no one after sir dickie, that affects everything at the club, he wont take the chance or risk with that.
207 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:18 PM
Now listen here lad, I’m a splintered backside fence man and don’t you forget it
Funny enough, I touched on your middle point earlier today and completely agree. Surely we must be open to the idea that we could have some information wrong, so should keep an open mind? Maybe I’m just a fence sitting hippy though.
Belfast….Wonga don’t want the card, just the account details. Have you checked for any dubious charges through ya account? tw@!
208 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:20 PM
Belfast….That is shocking. So there really are still decent people out there? Great news.
209 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:20 PM
Hypehn….I’m glad someone recognises that
210 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:26 PM
Ibiza,????@167
ironic bad taste joke,
The fella was a depraved grooming smiling assasin with pure deviousness and deception on his mind probably always, pb was just trying to get a dig in cos he is very a bitter lemon man. yea i would have gladly shoved that big daft cigar down his gob and throttled the horror.
211 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:28 PM
Beefman…I thought so. Glad I don’t have to jump off me fence, all this up down nonsense is getting tiring.
Can I get some peace please people? I’m trying to work on my tan!
212 Carryingcoals // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:28 PM
beefman13
When I say MA has continually disrespected the fans (bearing in mind I said I personally didn’t feel disrespected) I didn’t mean each and everyone one us. I realise from what you say every five minutes that you dont feel disrespected.
I feel as though you are trying to argue against me but a lot of the things you’ve just said are things I’ve said already, namely that he is the ruthless business man we need.
I’ve read your post twice over now and I too agree, we are doing ok.
However as I have already argued to Gateshead mag – he has disrespected folk, even if you don’t feel this yourself are don’t actually believe they have been disrespected, many themselves feel they have been.
I’m not arguing with you.
As for your PS, I didn’t understand it sorry. If you’re asking who would I be happy with sponsoring us, I couldn’t give you a specific name. My point is – and has always remained – I understand why people are upset because of the trade Wonga is in.
I know how everyone else is bad too etc and I have read a lot of what you’ve said already, please don’t repeat that to me.
213 MagpiesFlyHigh // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:31 PM
Far too many posts on here repeating yesterday’s debate or sound off to read the detail.
But I definitely want to sign this Earl Wonga guy for £8m as CB.
214 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:31 PM
Carrying…You sure you’re not missing his point?
Okay then people, shall we move on to another discussion? Just read an article on racism in Spanish football…that shouldn’t be a controversial topic for us…
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12024/8155619/Racism-does-not-exist-in-Spain-says-chief-of-Spanish-Football-Association
215 Carryingcoals // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:32 PM
ibiza
I wouldn’t have you any other way!
216 Carryingcoals // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:33 PM
@ 213 – thank you, normal person. haha
217 MagpiesFlyHigh // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:36 PM
Belfast
Congratulations… you have raised the tone on here about half a mile.
218 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:36 PM
MFH…He’s a bit old for our policy, don’t you reckon?
219 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:38 PM
Carrying….Easy there. You will lose any credibility by considering me to be normal, plus I find the word slightly offensive
220 Schwefelberg // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:38 PM
Yes I agree with Dr Ed it is a very bad deal.
Plus as you know Wonga is financed by the Conservative adviser and donor Adrian Beecroft. These set say that Darwin suits them. That the strong survive and the weak must be controlled.
Geordies are another cash crop that must be farmed!
And people shrug …and people say …oh well …..ho hum i….ts just a sponsor.
THEY HAVE GOT YOU WHERE THEY WANT YOU
221 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:39 PM
Carryincoals, you seem a decent kid apologies if that sounded argumentitive.
i do understand folk feeling hurt by MA`s decisions i was just trying to get across that i get the sort of fella he is
ie a bloody minded ruthless tough as they come businessman who dosnt do feelings.
he isnt doing things to hurt people, people like him just have to do what they do to get what they want.
And as you say maybe wonga is not the most glamorous name out there but if they are offering the best deal, then bobs your uncle, weather we like it or not.
the deal will be done, its his investment he is protecting thats all that counts for him.
no offense to you intended.
222 Carryingcoals // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:40 PM
ibiza
I’ll try to remember that!
I’m off out to a pub quiz, hopefully there’s a wonga round, nobody will stand a chance!
Take care.
223 Carryingcoals // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:43 PM
beefman
Likewise, you too mate. No offense caused, dont worry. We both want whats best for the club and I understand what you were trying to get across, you did.
I very much agree that the kind of business man that he is, is very effective for the club.
Catch you later
224 Schwefelberg // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:43 PM
pbNcl dont quit.
225 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:44 PM
Oh god sitting bull is back on the blog/
shwerf, you will have to cool it tonight son av had a hell of a day on here, its been like custers last stand!!!
226 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:48 PM
shwerf, pb is to delicate for this hard hitting blog only the tough survive, and the only stress pb has is making cuppas!
227 Schwefelberg // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:48 PM
I dont seek to upset anyone. I want to help and build.
But I get frustrated.
Like I asked last night:
How many people in hamptead and Barnes apply to Wonga?
Stop getting the sh/t end of the deal!!!
228 Schwefelberg // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:50 PM
Also I have no political agenda. I hate politics.
229 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:52 PM
Carrying….take it easy mate and good luck with the quiz.
Schwefelberg…..Before I comment too much I am researching. Looking at Adrian Beecroft info and I see some interesting links to people who usually make me think twice about certain things. I shall return.
One thing though before I dive in to Google, take it or leave it, can you try a slightly different approach. You come across a bit like the homeless man on the side of the street shouting his beliefs at you, try engaging, people wont feel the need to attack so much and if you have valid points, they may get across to people.
Anyway, i’m off to wonga…i mean wonga, damn it, I mean G..g…won…google
230 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:52 PM
Be cracking to have krul colo and staylor back for the mackems and heaven forbid we may actually, wait for it, yes be able to field are “starting XI” for the first time since spuds!!
Cant believe that is the only non wonga related news today!
Ibiza hows the view atop your fence this evening
Beefman
I see your still in warfare mode hows it going?
231 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:55 PM
shwerf ,if you dont like politics stay out of it, did you not see the list of the current sucssesful clubs in the premiership finacially we were at the bloody top.
we are not getting run over we are still building.
The geordienation are not getting run over ,we are going to run over them.
keep your pecker up!
232 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:58 PM
Schwefelberg..Talk about bad timing on my part….not so soapbox @ 226
Researching this does get awfully political and therefore depressing and I’ve only done about five minutes.
I’m likely to return as:
Ibizatoon – Back and grumpy as Angryman-the-angryfan – but not for footballing reasons
233 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 6:59 PM
tads….I feel that tonight I may start challenging how people perceive fence sitting. Views amazing though – it’s as beautiful as looking down a high street full of Sports Direct and Wonga outlets.
234 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:00 PM
Can we stop with all the morals yet, my high horse is tired, it wants to lie down
235 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:03 PM
tds, its been some day kidda, had some belta argument/discussions some laughs some tears, pb thought i was jimmy saville fan the daft get ha ha
this thread has been going on since 12.45 Ed must be chilling today, its maybe the longest ive seen without a thread for donkeys?
Mind if colo and saylor and krul are back we would be able to put the team we have wanted to coins in the air though with that.
mentioned before i would keep on of the dembas on the bench wi shola and bring them on to close the show hopefully late on, yawn ,but 442 is a buggarto watch these days.
236 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:03 PM
Ibiza
It sounds like a land so wonderful i can only dare dream about it maybe conaldo can give me a lift there once his high horse has caught some zzzz’s!
Ive read todays articles but tbh i really CBA to read the posts im assuming its still a moral punch up?
237 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:05 PM
Tads – I assume so, I’ve not bothered reading them either.
238 Quasi.modo // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:05 PM
In an attempt at trying to shift the talk from Wonga to football; how do people see the season so far and how do they see it panning out for us this season?
I know, I know, madness to suggest a non-Wonga conversation but wouldn’t it be better for all our sanity if we did?
239 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:07 PM
Beef
I admire your persistence mate how many have made the ‘bonny lad’ list today?
Hopefully tomos it will be back to buisness!
240 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:08 PM
tads….You got it. Some virtual packs of frozen peas will be needed this evening for the bruisings.
Conaldo….Surprised to see you. Thought you’d be out celebrating your 400th accomplishment from last night.
241 JAMSHA // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:09 PM
8mill a year???? doesnt sound good… atleast 11mill a,year would have been a gr8 deal
242 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:10 PM
Quasi – awful and relegation loom. We didn’t strengthen by buying falcao or Scharner, and we are going to go through 8 years of misery with clueless Pardew in charge. We will end up in the blue square bet but that’s okey because that’s where Willo and simmo belong.
Ashley out Pardew out Wonga all about.
243 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:10 PM
tds, i have morals myself, just not as good as the boozers, womanizers, and gamblers etc etc
Who see wonga as evil.
sorry couldnt resist it, am quite wongered out. thank god i hear!
Best not re wonga me then ha ha
244 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:12 PM
Ibiza – I’m getting ready now. Just got to finish my make up then its off to the pub.
Disclaimer – I don’t wear makeup.
Disclaimer 2- I am not actually going out, I blew all my blog celebration money on my “first” party and the Hilton. *sob ;(
245 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:13 PM
Beefman. Wonga Wonga Wonga Wonga Wonga Wonga Wonga Wonga Wonga
246 Quasi.modo // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:14 PM
Conaldo
What was I thinking, a Wizard like yourself clearly has an unfair advantage of being able to see into the future…
Seriously though, personally I think that while the performances haven’t been great, the results have been decent and there is still a lot more to come from the players we have. Yohan has still to hit top form, Tiote is still to hit his bull-dozing best, Cisse hasn’t got into gear yet and we have still to see the true potential of Anita yet, so I think when these pieces click into place (and I believe they will) then we will see much better performances and as a consequence, much better results.
247 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:14 PM
Conaldo/ibiza
Glad i didnt bother then gets a bit repetative like!!!
Beefman so your ok unless we mention wong wwwwong im mean your trigger word?
248 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:16 PM
Quasi – yeah, once our players hit form and we can put out a true starting 11, we should be able to climb the table a bit easier.
249 Rozzy // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:18 PM
Wasn’t the virgin deal £10m a year? So why would we end that deal a year early and take a deal for less money and mike Ashley is no longer advertising SD. There must be some nice add ons in this deal.
250 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:18 PM
Quasii, the season so far a bit stop, start, one step forward one back.
Once we get a rythym bonny lad we will be flying mark my words (just for you tds)
I have said before we will get a couple of quality lads in january, i firmly believe that.
my thoughts have been positive and i feel a top6/7 at the least for us in a very very tough league as well, and considering we are in europe too.
And waiting for young adam campbell to burst on to the scene at some stage if given a chance, a real diamond!
251 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:20 PM
Beefman – thought you would have imploded by now with all this Wonga ness.
252 Quasi.modo // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:21 PM
Plus we have yet to see the best from some of the exciting youngsters we have in the club. Shane Ferguson is looking like this season is his year to break into the first team which will give us more added options either at full back or in midfield. Pards has also shown that he is willing to play Santon at RB which I think is a positive sign of versatility.
So what are our realistic expectations this season, do people foresee an early exit from the EL and a disappointing PL season? Or will we surprise the big boys again?
253 ToonDarnSarf // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:21 PM
I wonder what percentage of people use Wonga because their car has broken down and they just need £200 to get it back on the road before they get paid, and what percentage of people use it because they blew all their money on booze and fags in the first 2 weekends of the month, and have got nothing left for the last weekend…
254 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:22 PM
Wonga to Google. Enough knowledge for one day
Quasi….Not sure this topic will bring much joy to the proceedings, but it surely must be better than this.
For me, so far the season has been neither great or terrible. Pretty, dare I say it, mediocre? What have I done? I should know better.
Moving on, it has been, but that doesn’t mean I feel this will be something that lasts a while. We don’t seem to have kicked in to gear yet and I’m sure there are many contributing factors, some being the Euros, pre-season or lack thereof, injuries, stories of players leaving, agents, etc, and maybe players not being too thrilled with the lack of new blood (I personally don’t go along with that last one so much – we can touch on that at some point too when things start wongering out again).
A negative of this season for me has been our slow starts in games. They can turn it around for the second half, therefore I am not too worried as it obviously can be fixed. Step up Mr. Pardew I guess.
There have been some great positives though.
I have been impressed with how well our “aging” and “non PL standard” keepers have stepped in when needed. Superb.
It also has to be said, that whilst not playing well, we’ve still managed to get some good points. All teams will go through stages of poor form, but the great ones find a way to keep in there.
It’s still way too early to say whether we’re seeing a slow start or the start of an impending implode at the club. With what I’ve seen the last 3 years though, I am quite happy believing it’s just a slow start and we’ll be competing for what I believe to be confirmation of our improvement, a top 7 finish with Europa qualification minimum. That is what I think anyway.
255 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:24 PM
Quasi, to true, cabaye is getting up to pace, it does seem to take him a while though dosnt it? tiote as well, needs to loose a bit of weight hes looking a bit beefy imo, anita will get better as the season goes on for me as well.
I would play them all v mackemland cannot wait its a magic day for all of us.
256 Schwefelberg // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:24 PM
Ibiza it is nice.
I remember on Spanish televbision around 2005
there was a series. España entre cielo y tierra
made Ibiza look great
257 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:27 PM
rozzy id he has accepted the deal it will be ok it would have been looked at very thoroughly!
toondarn, the last option you gave on you list is my fav scenario without doubt!
258 Quasi.modo // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:28 PM
Beefman
Refreshingly optimistic approach I must say, think Campbell will be a cracking young player too, seems to have that goalscorers instinct.
I believe that we will finish in and around 6/7th spot as well, but early signs show that this season will be a good sight more competitive as the likes of Chelsea and Spurs are playing well and Arsenal are increasingly looking a decent side, Everton will fall away I think but there are more sides to consider this season but that’s what makes the PL such an enjoyable competition.
259 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:31 PM
Schwefelberg…It is a nice place. Didn’t get such a good reputation from programs like “Ibiza Uncovered”. I like it anyway.
Are you new to the blog? If you don’t mind me asking, where are you from and where are you based? This isn’t a test of geordie status, I’m a southerner, living in Ibiza that hates to admit it, but as a misguided and impressionable young boy supported Arsenal – but that was many years ago and I have more than paid for my sins and debt to society he says fearing the Geordie backlash
260 Transfer Sage // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:34 PM
http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2012/07/24/premier-league-shirt-deals-hit-147m-record-high-thanks-to-north-east-boom-240702/
Just thought I’d share this. Apologies if it has been posted before.
It shows all shirt sponsors for this and last year.
It begs the question how have subderland for so much money for their deal.
261 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:34 PM
Ibiza, fair comments, the slow starting has to belooked at for sure, rob elliot is a very good kid, he took a bit of stick didnt he but he is decent. also doing not to bad while playing fairly average in most games is a positive.
Its the bloody 442 to blame for me with the big hoof up, the two africans just dont gel with each other and the ball keeps coming back at us.
262 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:35 PM
Ibiza – I don’t know that like (slowly reaches for pitchfork) but I guess we will forgive you. You very naughty boy.
May I ask how you came to support Newcastle?
263 Quasi.modo // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:35 PM
Ibiza
Really appreciate the in-depth analysis. We do seem to be taking quite long to get going in nearly all of our games and when the requisite changes are made we get to grips with the opposition. I would love to see us be the ones coming out of the stalls quickly and grabbing the incentive in games but as AP said at the start of the season; after the first 10 games you get a pretty good idea of where you are as a team and what you need to improve upon or keep doing.
We’ve made a solid, if unspectacular start to the season but I think the only way is up for us. Take Everton for example, they have started very quickly, much like us last season, but I don’t believe they have the ability to sustain it and will fall away, as will West Brom. We will only grow in stature as the season progresses, or so I believe.
And you’re right, it is time to “step up” Pardew, as he has done many times in the past, his faith in certain players and tactics has been vindicated in the past and will be vindicated again. He is the man for the job and I trust him to bring us some measure of success this season, however, it depends on what you call success doesn’t it?
264 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:35 PM
Don’t = didn’t
265 Transfer Sage // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:36 PM
It doesn’t show what clubs get off the shirt manufacturer though.
I know it was reported Liverpool get 25mil a year off warrior sports.
Not sure what man utd get off Nike and Chelsea off Adidas but it makes a good read
266 Transfer Sage // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:39 PM
Beefman
Agree with you on 442 not working with cisse and demba.
I think 442 is effective with shola and Ba though as shola seems to hold it up and do ok.
However I would much prefer to see cisse and Ba in the 433 from last year as we attacked with pace and did well.
If pardew wants to play Ba through the middle he has to either be paired with shola…..
…..or cisse has to be dropped and a wide man played on the left
267 Rotonda heights // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:46 PM
Rozzy
apparently virgin were only paying 3m a year
268 JAMSHA // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:46 PM
Mayb its a 12mill deal.with ashley pocketn 4mill
269 Rotonda heights // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:47 PM
sage
everyone can see that except pardew
270 shearermania // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:47 PM
morale in football is long gone….this is business a fight for cool cash…how can you compete aginst the likes of bilionaires like chelsea and man city? answer you can not….you take the best deal albeit a deal that benefits the club as a whole – giving back our st james surely they deserve some credit for that..that really means a lot……carlsberg,budweiser, standard chartered list goes on surely is no better morally….anyway in regards to the figures its said the figure was unprecedented in english football so im confident its more than 8mill a year……im for one totally embraces this year…maybe because im no longer a hopeless romanticer when it comes to football after watching years of tribe or that i totally lost faith in the corrupt faces of the fa and uefa who runs the show…..ive sinced moved on- i experienced relegation (it put things in perspective) im happy with this deal if it improves equal playing fields…….onwards and upwards
271 shearermania // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:50 PM
jeez keyboard never lies when youre drunk and re-read youzr posts….letters seems to be to close together
272 ONLINE GUY // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:52 PM
Demba , Papis And Hatem may not be wearing Black and white next season.
Demba Ba and Papiss Cannot promote a company that
takes money in interest rates from the common man ..
Tell me if I am wrong ..I might be , Muslim bank rates are 0% ?
Both our Muslim Players and to some extent Hatem
May not Be able to Don the shirt next season ..
They are Deeply Religious
You will not be able to force them to don a shirt with Wonga on it . There may be trouble ahead ..(Sings )
273 Quasi.modo // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:52 PM
Right lads, well thanks for not tearing me to pieces at my first attempt at posting, I’m going to head off here now.
Chat to you fellas later!
274 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:55 PM
Online guy – northern rock and virgin money both have Interest rates on there products, therefore they are against shariah law, but they still wore the shirt and logo. Even if they did object, they would wear a logo-less shirt as players for other clubs have done in the past.
Calm down mate.
275 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:56 PM
Think I’ve scared Ibiza off. Don’t worry I put the torch and fork back.
276 shearermania // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:58 PM
anyone else thin ks anita is the worst player evr to don the shirt apart from the obvious xisco,marcelinho etc?
277 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:58 PM
Also, online guy, ba, cisse, Ben arfa and tiote are all devout Muslims. Not just ba and cisse.
Yes you are right about Muslim banks, shariah law states that you can not make money of the giving or taking of money.
278 ONLINE GUY // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:58 PM
The Muslim Council of England are now making some noise about this ..Might put pressure on our Players . One has to be very careful as to what one utters here ! Gan Canny Geordie, Gan Canny …
279 eaststandgeordie1982 // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:59 PM
Online guy you missed tiote and they will still all be here next year well atleast 1 i hope
280 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Oct 10, 2012 at 7:59 PM
Shearer mania ????
281 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:00 PM
TS…..It does make me question the invest in africa sponsorship tbh, but maybe I’m eager to find problems with the unwashed neighbours?
Wizard….I supported them as my mates at school did, it was never really emotional though (But I would be lying if I said I didn’t idolise Bergkamp for a while). My Mum is a Geordie, so it was always there really. The day I came to my senses was amazingly after watching Man United thump us 4-0 is the ’96 Charity Shield game. I think I knew by how gutted I was that I was really a mag at heart, destined for a life of pain and false promises
The heart is stronger than the mind in my case it seems.
Quasi…You have no idea how much I appreciate the change in topic. I am a big fan or Pardew and to quote a poster on here, I consider myself a Pardite (Copyrighted to Ruddy – well as far as I’m aware anyway). Whilst there have been some issues and yes he can be quite defensive at times considering the talent within the team, I do believe he knows what he’s doing though
– Sorry, have taken a call, might be a while, so Ill submit what i’ve done
282 eaststandgeordie1982 // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:03 PM
Ibiza the scum have to finish high up to get 20m be lucky if they get 5m really and i think its shocking taking money off a charity that money could be invested in africa ffs
283 shearermania // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:07 PM
sorry but what ive seen of anita hes been absolute rubbish…yeah fair enough the boy needs some time to afjust to the premier league but honestly when you are that poor you should play your trade in the reserves…i definately prefer gosling to him…and that says a lot…..
284 Schwefelberg // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:12 PM
Ibiza I am not trying to evade your question.
but I am nobody.tonight.
285 ppb // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:17 PM
shearermania by many accounts marcelinho was one of our best players abilitywise. he just didn’t want to play
286 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:17 PM
Shearermania ,For me vernon anita is the best utility player at NUFC left and right back centre midfield and defensive midfield all to a top standard as well.
he has only played 7/8 games then missed some while away. for the birth of his kid.
i watched him many times for ajax, hes technically excellent reads the game well to.
lets give him a touch more time to settle honestly he is a class kid and i hope he plays v themackems your post at 7.47 was a good one in my opinion.
but to be honest i think your a million miles away with him being the worst player in a black and white shirt
i think he will be great for us and get better and better.
have you been on the sauce young man!!!!
287 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:21 PM
Shearer – how many times have you seen Anita to make this informed decision?
288 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:24 PM
shearemania, ive ben on here all day and been in a few wars to say the least but that post about anita has flummuxed me im really amazed by it shocked as well.
its your opinion i disagree 99.99 per cent, i respect what you say cos you seem like you mean it but if anyone else comes on and agrees then the blog has gone frigan mad
sorry kidda that has really stunned me that.
289 Schwefelberg // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:25 PM
“Chelsea just renewed their contract with Samsung, and that’s estimated at around £18M a year, in the three year extension.”
And Newcastle get a loan shark.
290 geordielad880 // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:27 PM
shearermania, anita will prove to be a top player for newcastle, i follow dutch football, he is very good, great first touch, reads the game well, keeps the ball moving, good passer, and is the most hardworking player you will ever see, he needs time to adapt, the dutch game is very slow, and you get time on the ball, he will come good, that i guarentee, people wee slagging off bryan ruiz at fulham, he is also a top player, and is starting to show the form he showed in holland
291 ONLINE GUY // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:28 PM
Conaldo ..Really I don’t give 2 Proverbial ones …They are all overpaid ….
I Love Newcastle United. The Culture, the history, and what it means to the Community ..But I don’t get toooo bothered about any individuals ..Team comes first .
LOved your comment ..Shearer Law ! Careful, careful !
292 shearermania // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:31 PM
got toadmit i was looking for a bit of a reaction….guilty…but yes i have been very unimpressed by anita – i watchem him with ajax and thought he was decent but i cant see where he fit in ours apart from right back….normally dutch players dosnt need bedding in but this player certainly do…hes slow to react, dwells on the ball, poor positioning……yes i know give him time….but hes defo not a starter…i would say hes not even good enough for the bench a t the moment…give him some time in the reserves first…and yes been on the sauce….shoot me down now i can take it
293 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:31 PM
Schwef, they are champions of europe, their owner just buys for fun anyway, you have not once talked about football in two nights on here just the wonga deal and the consequenses,
i have done quite a bit of talking today normally batting people like you around
i said last night you were on the happy baccy but i dont think you are, you do sound a bit like a manic depressive to me now pack it in or your going to get a smacked arse!
294 ppb // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:33 PM
@beef its ok i don’t understand his opinion either. crazy words
295 ppb // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:36 PM
@beefman when you were younger were you a beefboy, a vealman or a vealboy?
296 ONLINE GUY // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:36 PM
Individual
297 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:38 PM
You’re nobody tonight, but still full of opinions? Is it the Wonga deal thay has you down? Perhaps another day then.
Wizard….Trust me, as a man with your wizardry skills, you are not more fearful with a pitchfork, I am always careful around you oh wise one….just occasionally I do have to do some work.
298 euanpolo // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:39 PM
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11678/8155545
Bloody ridiculous this! I’m sick and tired of our players getting injured whilst on international duty. Krul and Coloccini aren’t even back yet and now we could be missing Cabaye as well. Pardew was right, international teams should have to report to club teams on their training and the players condition.
299 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:39 PM
ppb….
300 Tonytoon73 // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:40 PM
What’s all this crap? A Muslim player will not play because we are sponsored by wonga. What would happen if we are sponsored by an alcohol firm?
301 shearermania // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:41 PM
should never had bought anyone with the name anita in the first place .- everyone knows woman knows -shi! about football.
302 p // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:41 PM
Not sure about Anita myself.
I definitely would not say he is rubbish.
Clearly the guy is good technical ability: comfortable on the ball, good touch, can pick out a decent pass and so on. For sure there is some class there.
However, he does not seem to have a lot of pace particularly and is a bit small (both in height and weight) to be a top defensive assets.
So, verdict is out for me. He will definitely be an asset as a utility player who can do a job in various positions (a bit like R taylor I suppose) but is unlikely to shine like HBA or the like.
Time will tell though, he does need time to settle in.
303 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:43 PM
Okay, before I go off on a rant……can someone uses facebook help me out with something. To link an article to your page, would you have to like it? Is that how that works, if not I want to know who the hell likes that Cabaye article?!?!
euanpolo…..I’m sure we can make this Van Persies fault, if we try
Not going to worry yet, there still training him and aren’t completely ruling him out for France yet. Keep the hope for now, anger come next weekend if needed.
304 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:43 PM
Tonytoon its all shit stirring by the press, they have got it in for us,
mark seggers tried to stitch lee ryder up last night on talksport you could tell how agitated lee ryder was with the line of questioning just as i was it was an awful interiew.
305 Schwefelberg // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:44 PM
I didnt talk football because im happy with. Nice start to the season.
You dont phone up to complain about a bill that is order, …..do you.
But you are right in a way about my posst
But..
If you are pleased to settle for a sub standard world…. suit yourself.
Just dont expect others to have sloppy standards.
306 ppb // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:44 PM
@shearermania does it make it better if you pronounce it anitay like Michael Jackson on both selecta?
@ibiza you are still not forgiven *accidentally lets a half smirk out*
307 BelfastMagpie // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:47 PM
Think Anita is gonna take time to settle.
We just got lucky with Tiote & Cabaye,they came in & looked the part straight away..
308 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:47 PM
ppb, that was veally funny!
309 jawballsaswallwell // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:48 PM
Virgin have a significantly better profile than Wonga, yet we choose to endorse Wonga and by doing so potentially tarnish the reputation and standing of the club all for what seems too small an amount of money to begin to justify the switch. It does seem reckless.
310 numba9 // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:48 PM
Why give up ten mil a year 4 8 ? And Branson virgin is far more respected and inovative
311 Tonytoon73 // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:48 PM
beefman, typical f@cking press as usual. They cannot have a good word for us ever mate. COCKS
312 shearermania // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:49 PM
maybe…but she still seems unable to fit into ou team……she could be the masseuse however and then evryone could have a happy ending and she (anita ) would arguably be our most versatile player ever?
313 p // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:49 PM
also, Anita is only 23 so some way to go on the development cycle
314 BelfastMagpie // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:49 PM
Ibiza
I’ve just lost all respect for you after finding out you were on facebook!! lol
315 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:50 PM
Shwef, are you german, bloody hell man am from the west end of the toon it can get a bit sub standard around here to say the least ha ha
316 ONLINE GUY // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:51 PM
Muslim Council of England
Kicking off about Demba’s & Co’ now..
Stating they should not Play for Newcastle , Unethical .
Well that’s 2/3rd’s of the team out Next season ! !
Its Amazing How the Southern Press look at every angle and every corner to stir the Shit For Newcastle United ..They even alerted the Muslim Council Of England . .
Extra careful with any comment on this Lad’s.
317 ppb // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:52 PM
@beefman is that a German accent? could it be? no….you’re the head of the OV? (as we were nazis apparently)
318 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:53 PM
shearermania its getting to that time of night son? think you need to hoy some zzzzs out.you naughty boy.
319 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:54 PM
Online guy
They can say what they want it diesnt change the they all play for a club in the BARCLAYS premier league the boys are all big boys im sure they can make there own decisions
320 ppb // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:55 PM
@online guy no Muslims allowed in the premiership! its sponsored by barclays who charge interest. thats against sharing law.
stirring southerners
321 BelfastMagpie // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:56 PM
Wtf is The muslim council off england ??
Never heard of it in my life..
They must be new on the seen lol
322 ppb // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:56 PM
sharia even
323 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:56 PM
ppb….Oh come on now, you know you can’t stay mad at me
Schwefelberg….That’s an interesting idea of a way to use the blog. Not many people do call up customer service and thank people for getting the bill right, nice thought though.Why do you think the blog isn’t a place to discuss good things going on at the club, this isn’t a customer service centre, or have I misunderstood you?
The Newcastle United Blog
News, Views and Commentary On Newcastle United Football Club By Ed Harrison, A Proud Geordie And Lifelong Fan*
Please note the asterisk and see Ed’s terms and conditions which now include Music and insane nonsense as acceptable topics from those of us whose medication runs low from time to time, but never resist football talk.
324 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:56 PM
ppb, hes a funny bugga old shwef, he was a commache last night? he was saying they would not be happy with the wonga deal!!! straight up!
325 Tonytoon73 // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:57 PM
ONLINE GUY I have just took a deep breath and counted to ten. Lol
326 Schwefelberg // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:57 PM
No I’m not. I understand Ibiza’s curiosity. I have my reasons.
This blog post is about Wonga. I ‘m sorry if I seem rude or abrupt….
But I have seen the greed and ruthlesness from the front row and Wonga adds to it.
You know that whatever we say here, we’ll all together drink beer with champagne chasers when Newcastle win a Cup.
327 ONLINE GUY // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:58 PM
Toon …..Im certain your right …Just reporting something that has just been mentioned on BBC world service for Africa ..Heard it live . Around 17.3 Kilohertz.. SW
328 shearermania // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:59 PM
lets keep religion, race and hatred out of footbal and just keep it simple wonga….
anita still sukks
329 numba9 // Oct 10, 2012 at 8:59 PM
Are Muslims allowed to sport jerseys with bookies names on ? Because there is a number of clubs doing so. I do think the press have a negative spin on us and would like to make us the laughin stock well we really should limit the opportunity we give them of this
330 achtoon // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:01 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/concerns-over-suitability-of-sunderlands-new-sponsor-7893651.html
331 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:02 PM
Here ibiza fancy you being a cockney, had you down for a hong kong phooey look alike this afternoon then butkis from rocky, come on stand up what the hell is going on!
332 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:02 PM
Belfast….Firstly and honestly my dear fellow, most importantly, you’re a tw@.
Nice to know you actually had a little respect for me though
I do have a facebook account, but don’t actually use it much. The reason I asked is, I noticed on the Cabaye article (on the SS website – tw@) that a fair few people had liked the article! What’s to like about it? Then i wondered is that how one links it their page, therefore I would be able to calm myself and not plot some evil plan to rid of these scum from our planet that take joy in wor dreamboat being hurt – the poor darling.
Oh, did I mention I think you’re a tw@?
——-
What’s that? OV? Leaders? Nazi’s? Oh my!
333 ONLINE GUY // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:02 PM
It’s Gone International now ..Via aunty.
334 Schwefelberg // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:03 PM
No Ibiza. Of course not. I never phone to say the bill is OK. Beefman wanted to know why I dont talk about the game. I’ll talk pitch time anytime.
Im not complaining just about Wonga like a call centre ha ha ha a
But maybe we should flood the switchboard more. Its just this is a live wire issue today.
335 ppb // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:06 PM
love the red tops reporting on wonga being unethical. pot, kettle, and all that jazz.
plus the redtops take advantage of the same people by spouting utter, one sided, provocative, garbage in their comics.
their wording, which always insinuates and implies but never outright accuses, fire people up causing/fueling class hatred, religious hatred and all manner of problems.
c**ts
336 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:06 PM
Schwefelberg…Well if I’m to get an answer I best hope Ed puts up a thread about where you’re from and where you live!
Sounds like you’ve witnessed the downside to what can happen with operations like Wonga and I am sorry to hear that. Probably best we leave it for now, as you say, we all support the toon and them doing well is what we want….hell I drink beer with champagne chasers when we manage to beat someone with Willo and Simmo in the team.
337 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:08 PM
achtoon, there you go the deal with the mackem sponsors that looked whiter than white could be the oil company funding it pulling a flanker, owt to do with big oil companys is to offset their taxes probably if they are talking non profitable charitable organisation. it could indeed be a black day for the black cats!
some ammunition back for the big match
jr ewing sponsoring the mackems!
why sue ellen indeed!
338 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:10 PM
Beefman…Don’t even start with my gene pool and what I’m about. Let’s just consider me a mongrel and save us the time. Can I sit down now bonny lad?
Schwefelberg…
As long as you’re not suicidal, we can discuss what you like – glad we can see a sense of humour in there.
339 BelfastMagpie // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:11 PM
Ibiza go and poke somebody you c***
340 achtoon // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:14 PM
Beefman, your lass making you watch dallas too
341 jawballsaswallwell // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:17 PM
Pards has come out and claimed that the Wonga deal can propel the club into the top 4. C’mon mate, it’s hardly any better than the Virgin money and significantly less than the sponsorship deals the senior clubs have brokered.
Tiresome, compromising business not to be disregarded, but life is too short to dwell too long on iiritationss, so bring on the Mackems! C’mon lads.
342 BelfastMagpie // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:17 PM
Doe’s wonga not advertise in most of the red tops??
343 shearermania // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:20 PM
who cares about wonga lets tslk about anita….the versatile one….
344 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:20 PM
ach, am on the bloody computer i have have been keyboard warrioring all frigan day, i used to love dallas though years ago, may need to go and watch a bit of it for nostalgia sake.
shwef has got me perplexed and confused. hes playing with my head the bugga! ha ha
345 ONLINE GUY // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:20 PM
This just in…
.Frédéric Kanouté, the former Spurs striker, refused to wear the 888.com logo of the gambling website when he was with Seville in La Liga because of his religious beliefs. He was allowed to play games for Seville with an unbranded shirt but had to wear the logo on his training equipment.
“Freddie was allowed to wear a top without the 888.com and that is a reasonable request to be made by the player,” added Mogra. “Assuming all four are on the pitch at the same time, if you have seven out of 11 [who have the advertising on their shirts] you have sufficient coverage. It is not asking too much, I believe.”
346 ppb // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:21 PM
@belfast well they know their market then. people who may well be stupid enough to believe everything they read.
candy tits in them papers though.
347 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:21 PM
shearermania ,your getting to be a bit of a handful bonny lad!!!
348 Billythefish // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:22 PM
Has anyone from the club actually stated it is 8 mill for both shirts and stadium, I heard it is nearer 17 mill for both???
349 Schwefelberg // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:23 PM
My position is this:
Wonga is a symptom of a disease. A disease brought to the Club by outsiders who could not care less about the patient.
Indeed they chose this patient precisely because he was weak and therefore easier to take advantage of.
350 ppb // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:25 PM
@billy llambias was asked if it was 8m and said its not far from that. could be lying.
351 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:26 PM
I fear things may start gettin too Wonga related and religious and political so I bid you adieu for this evening.
I shall now retire to my wizardy lair and taking a que from Ibiza, monty Python is awaiting me.
Buenos noches.
352 Munster Mag // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:27 PM
Hmm, so now its looks like its not even a great deal ( much the same as Virgin i think ? ) , and we are still sporting the name of an undesireable shark company? Nice one Mike , keep it up. ( Better still , try SPENDING SOME MONEY ON THE TEAM ) , you might find it helps build the clubs profile too.
Jaws,I very much agree. I dont know where Pards thinks this is going to bring us – top 4 – based on what? Maybe if Ashley had stopped looking for unrealistic discounts in the summer and spent a little more money ( steady on , mini accountants ) it might make far more sense to say top 4. In reality I dont think he cares that much whether we are 5th or 10th – once we are in the PL advertsing SD. However most fans do – although many on this site seem more interested in how MA is perceived, than how we are doing on grass! Admittedly Pards is suggesting long term development, but I cant imagine Liverpool Spurs and everton havent thought of that before ?
353 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:27 PM
And my parting gift tonight was bringing this blog up to 350 comments.
354 achtoon // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:29 PM
Beef, its actually good.
This muslim thing is crap. Its against their beliefs to charge interest for loans, gamble or drink alchohol. that means they shouldnt have worn the virgin shirt (lender) and there would be lots of blank shirts in the pl
355 Munster Mag // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:29 PM
Beef, why do you call everyone bonny lad? They cant all be bonny, not judging by the fellas with their tops off on the terraces…..
356 jawballsaswallwell // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:32 PM
Has anyone noticed the ads for fast cash loans at the bottom of the page, all of a sudden, or have I just not clocked them before. What’s goin’ on?
357 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:32 PM
conaldo could your parting gift not be a right hook to munster mag the doomster is back in the building!
sighs slowly!
358 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:34 PM
Beef – I’m sorry, I have a very strict policy of one gift a day. Maybes tommorow
Disclaimer . I do not want to give anyone a right hook, please do not report me to the blog police.
359 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:35 PM
munster, bonny lad is a newcastle reference it sometimes comes out, ibiza uses it as well.
360 achtoon // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:35 PM
Wonga is advertising on this site now. Love it.
361 Schwefelberg // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:35 PM
Exactly Muster. Too many fans sit still for this and even have become Wonga butt sniffers.
362 shearermania // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:36 PM
well its against my belief to throw anything left in the bottle down the drain or add water or ice cubes to my red wine..actually ill go as far as calling it blasphfemy should anyone empty their fag in my unfinished beer or make me drink h20 filtered wine…i wouldnt take it from anyone unless………..
i was paid at least 10k a week and only had to kick a ball around here and there…..then i couldnt give a fiddlers fart…thank god thats not the case
363 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:37 PM
wizard ive decided to become the blog superintendant,
i have the power to arrest bloggers now
munster and shearermania your spending time in the clinky tonight
your nicked!!!
364 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:39 PM
Beefman….Munster and I don’t really see eye to eye on issues, but he is a pretty reasonable and respectable poster. He does sneak in the odd little jab (mini accountants – still cuts deep btw
), but don’t we all from time to time (me excluded of course).
Belfast….Sorry, I don’t wanna poke you, you tw@, oh master, oh changer of my blog life
365 Munster Mag // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:40 PM
Beefie, stop that , I’m not a Doomster. I just think MA doesnt give a shit about NUFC fans or club icons etc etc. He’s a horrible man – but at least he’s our horrible man
And as for Llambias, well apparently we havent seen how nasty they can get to paraphrase him. I’m not a doomster , but dont know how our progress is going to happen based on a so-so deal and a team that looks worse than last year. My big hope is the Europa to be honest and I think Pards knows that. Can you imagine the mags winning this – heaven!!
366 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:40 PM
Beefman….I fear you may have become ill and need some help. Here is some info and I wish you luck and remember, we are here for you
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovine_spongiform_encephalopathy
367 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:40 PM
Schwef thats it butt sniffing rererence you can get yoursef in there too with mania and munster.
see yous in the morning
looks at his sergeant no pillow for the german!
368 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:42 PM
I’m warning you now, if anyone calls me a wbs i’ll, i’ll, i’ll leave the blog!
369 Munster Mag // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:42 PM
Ibiza, whats the story with u and Belfast? How’s the balance sheet mate?
370 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:42 PM
Ibiza I’m really annoyed now. Beefman is in the blog police and there’s still no spot for me.
Not fair.
371 BelfastMagpie // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:43 PM
I regret giving you that swearing advice Ibiza..
You’ve turned into a right c***!! lol
372 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:44 PM
Wizard….You’re constantly failing a really simple test when it comes to blog policing. Until you figure it out you simply cannot be a blog policeman. Sorry mate, not a lot I can do about this one.
373 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:44 PM
ibiza av been wi plenty of mad cows believe me.
374 Munster Mag // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:44 PM
Beefie, dont worry mate, I know enough about geordieness to know aaal aboot the bonny lads man y’knaa? I must get over again – did I tell you I got an invitation via a mate from Shearer via that bloke who nearly managed to buy NUFC ? True!
375 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:45 PM
I guess I’ll just have to be happy with the title of blog wizard untill I work my way up to supreme overlord of nufcblog.com
Mwuhahahahahahamwuahahahahahahaha
376 ppb // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:46 PM
ah wpc ibiza running the show now
377 shearermania // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:47 PM
all right im off too bed…tried to pick a few fights but only homos on tonight (and as a previosly fact- women dont know jack about football) well have a pop now but i think you have been all sissys why didnt you stick up for your man/woman anita (only real men needs to answer>)…..he/shes rubbish…goodnight
378 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:47 PM
Munster….See 368
I was under attack one evening (a rare event) and instead of fighting my corner that wise tw@ by the name of Belfast suggested I just swear at them. Simple, but effective.
As for the balance sheet, I keep having to wash my bed sheets daily, hope that gives some indication.
Now for any crudeness, my apologies.
Belfast…Come on, admit how proud of me you are and we can just move on and abuse the fine members of the blog. Let’s drop this charade.
379 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:49 PM
Ibiza – you mean it’s not spelled hemlet?
380 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:49 PM
DOWN TO THE CELLS, looks in then looks to his left, sergeant gruel for munster, mania will still be a kip dont wake him! and tell muster one serving only!!!
Sergeant, that funny german is just glaring at me with a stupid look on his face.
381 MagpiesFlyHigh // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:49 PM
Beefman
Yer opinions about Wonga are just pure offal.
but spot on about Anita
382 Munster Mag // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:51 PM
Ibiza, in fairness we dont disagree on everything. I just knew that Fats wouldnt spend money in the summer and you kept telling me to ne patient. I kept telling you that he was obsessed with discounts and would only buy young cheap players quickly. Regrettably I was proved right, but I’m hoping you will be proved right in Jan , and i think you will, but unfortunately only after half the season has gone by. My other issue with this lovely blog is that it is partly populated by guys who would forgive MA if he shot his family. Probably. Anyway, how are the olives on the veranda tonite you lucky man? Its raining in limerick….
383 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:51 PM
Shearer….Missing you already darling.
ppb…..Was that some sort of payback. You brilliant b*st*rd.
beefman….Oh I do
Wizard…..How’s your nut investments going? I think we may need to put our heads together sometime soon now we have a connection to Wonga.
So, pull me back on track people, do we have non wonga football discussions going on?
384 Quasi.modo // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:51 PM
So has the uproar about Wonga settled somewhat?
So for those who think that the deal may be wrong for the club on a moral standpoint do you still think the deal may be beneficial on a financial point if the money they bring in signs a few players and pushes us forward on the playing front?
385 ppb // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:52 PM
@ibiza have you climbed off the fence yet?
oh and how ever are we to have opinions without ruddy here? im lost.
386 ppb // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:53 PM
@ibiza apparently anitay is the worst player ever to pull on a black and white shirt. discuss
387 BelfastMagpie // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:53 PM
Im over the moon with you mate..
Your a proper c*** now!!!
388 beefman13 // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:56 PM
sergeant take magpiesflyinghigh down and give him two nights, and hard labour for the days. and a quiz with shwerf about punctuality and efficiency!
how dare he mention offal to superintendant beefman
389 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:58 PM
New thread
390 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 9:59 PM
Munster…Indeed. We do agree on some things – just seems all anyone spoke about during the summer and since is transfers! We’ve certainly covered the ground on this one, still hopefully come February I’ll just be stuffed from festive treats rather than humble pie
Don’t agree on the defending him if he shot his family comment, but know you don’t actually mean to that extreme and yes, some are very quick to jump to his defense, but equally, some are so quick to find fault that they would accuse him of being worried about possible profit loss if he jumped in front of a bus to save some kids life – Yes, I went for an extreme too – just imagine the mess of the bus ffs!
ppb….I think you’re just answered the fence sitting question. I can’t get down until I can climb into his backside once again! Ah, what sweet memories.
Wizard…It is not a question of your spelling or humour, nor your ability to spot a crime on the blog. It may be a question of a lack of authority.
391 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 10:01 PM
But I don’t ever want this thread to end
Belfast…..I couldn’t have done it without ya you miserable twisted f*ck*r.
Did someone expose beefman to kets? Who is responsible for this?
392 Munster Mag // Oct 10, 2012 at 10:02 PM
Quasi, dont get too excited about the wonga money being spent by Ash. If it is spent in Jan , it just means very little will be spent in the summer. Just how many frustrating windows have we had? That said, Tiote will be sold in the summer for about 15 mill or more ( if he cops himslef on and gets fit ) so we will have funds then. Him and Cabaye possibly but more likely him, with Bigi taking over. Ashley will make about 15 mill and we will spend approx 5mill on two young players who wont improve the team for a good while, like Amalfitano.
393 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Oct 10, 2012 at 10:05 PM
Ibiza – if it’s about those villages, it wasn’t my fault they burnt down, honest. Was just practising…
Or is it my fence sitting. I learn from the best.
394 Quasi.modo // Oct 10, 2012 at 10:08 PM
Munster
Surely the summer window of 2011 wasn’t a disappointing window given the fact that we signed Cabaye, Ba, Santon, Marveaux, Abeid, Obertan etc and got shot of that idiot Barton.
We’ve all wanted that extra CB to bolster our defensive options and I think that until we sign that CB people will always say that the windows are disappointing.
I can’t say that I understand where you’re very negative approach is coming from because there is no basis for an assumption that we will sell any of our players (first teamers anyway) to finance new signings.
395 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 10, 2012 at 10:09 PM
Munster…I don’t think any of this new sponsor money will come until next summer anyway. Any purchases this January, please please please, will have been pre-budgeted imo, as they were for the summer, but didn’t get used in the end, as you said then wouldn’t mumble mumble grumble
396 Munster Mag // Oct 10, 2012 at 10:30 PM
Quasi, the window before that we plenty disappointimg and i remember many people on the web getting very pissed off. And i will always maintain that Cisse would not have been bought had he cost about 1 mill more ( the ashley discount factor ) . however thats conjecture. We need a good window in jan to sustain the team, and i think he will buy. If he doenst invest properly, I hope that some of the guys on this site will have the sense of balance to hamme him that they should have had at the end of the last window. I do think we will buy though. Right now though, i just want to see more flair and creativity. We are the biggest long ball team in the Pl according to stats from the Sunday Times!
397 Munster Mag // Oct 10, 2012 at 10:46 PM
Ok, i’ll stop giving out now – believe me this isnt anti Ashley per se, even if its looks it ….its more about doing the right thing re transfers etc whether its Ashley or anyone else. Bed time now . Anyone reckon i’ll get my end away ? Me neither ….:(
398 ogm // Oct 11, 2012 at 10:23 AM
Alan Pardew has told his Newcastle United players to forget all about the clubs new sponsorship deal with Wonga.com. He,s told them to just get on the pitch and give it 4107%.
399 nufc 11 // Oct 11, 2012 at 11:04 AM
Man U and liverpool have 19 league titles each and europeans cups to beat the band, Chelsea and Man City too they are entiled to get way more sponsership what successes have we had in terms of winning things?none and we have supose to be getting similar sponsership deals wake up lads we got the best we could get, and to say its a double deal is a joke they gave us back SJP they didnt name it the wonga arena and we still complain simple formula success breaths success wasnt to long ago we were in the 2nd teir of english football and we the fans are calling for more money same as the big boys joke.
400 greekgeordie // Oct 11, 2012 at 1:09 PM
Ashley and Lambias are business men and if they could have a better deal would have taken it.
We are trying to become a top 5 to six tema and when we are there the better deals will come.
The naming of the stadium is a marketing trick, both new that after the public outcry no sponsor would have dared to name the stadium to anything else than SJP.
As for the ethical issues of Wonga and the religious objections for the Muslim players it is all paper talk and political games for the local politicians to distract the locals from their own failings. After all it is down to the individual to decide to use Wonga or not.
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