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Three Newcastle Players Nominated For Major Award

12:02 pm, Friday, October 12th, 2012 by Ed Harrison · 287 Comments

Good news today is that three Newcastle United players have been nominated for the 2012 African Footballer of the Year award, however the bad news is that another 31 players have also been nominated – nothing like narrowing down the choice is there?

Yaya Toure – won 2011 African Player of the Year

But our three African players Demba Ba, Papiss Cisse and Cheick Tiote, have been included in the list, which gets reduced to a 10 man list at the end of October, and the winner will be announced sometime in December.

Both Senegal strikers had good seasons at Newcastle with Demba Ba hitting 16 premier league goals and Papiss Cisse hitting 13 in 14 appearances for Newcastle from February last year, after he joined from SC Freiburg for around £9M.

And Demba Ba of course has continued on this season with 6 goals, and is Newcastle’s top goal-scorer at the moment, and Papiss Cisse has notched another two goals for Newcastle in that famous number 9 shirt of his.

And Cheick Tiote has become one of the best defensive midfielders in the Premier League, although he’s been out with injury most of this season, and has not played too many games.

It would be great if one of the Newcastle players can win the award, and for the record,  Manchester City’s top midfielder Yaya Toure won the African Footballer of the Year award for 2011.

Here are some other past winners of the award:

2010 – Samuel Eto
2009 – Didier Drogba
2008 – Emmanuel Adebayor
2007  - Fredric Kanoute
2006  - Didier Drogba
2005  - Samuel Eto
2004  - Samuel Eto

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287 responses so far ↓

  • 1 hotdog // Oct 12, 2012 at 12:04 PM

    Mister Tuff – (Pervious Thread) An “expert” on talk sport said the fans should be pleased the name was coming back, really!! It shouldnt have gone in the first place muppets!

  • 2 hotdog // Oct 12, 2012 at 12:06 PM

    Damn thats the first time ive been first. Should i have beeen a sado and put 1st ;-)

  • 3 hotdog // Oct 12, 2012 at 12:07 PM

    and 2nd haha – come on ed has another article try to keep up lads

  • 4 hotdog // Oct 12, 2012 at 12:08 PM

    ohh god and 3rd do i have to keep on going :-(

  • 5 fray bentos // Oct 12, 2012 at 12:10 PM

    @ jawball in previous thread

    Fair enough & well put. If i had a choice i would probably pick someone else aswell (aslong as the money wasn’t subtancially less), i just don’t think its that much of a big deal as some posters or the media would make it out. Definately worth putting to bed now tho. But atleast the pardew bashing has died down because of it

  • 6 hotdog // Oct 12, 2012 at 12:13 PM

    Cheers Fray :-)

  • 7 nufc 11 // Oct 12, 2012 at 12:13 PM

    It would be nice for one of ours to win it but if Drogba dnt win it id be shocked he singled handedly won the champions league for chelsea.

  • 8 fray bentos // Oct 12, 2012 at 12:16 PM

    no problem dog

    i really should be working

  • 9 fray bentos // Oct 12, 2012 at 12:17 PM

    no problem dog

    i really should be working, im blaming you

  • 10 jesperfuglsang // Oct 12, 2012 at 12:20 PM

    You know guys Big Fat Mike work in mysterious ways :) maybe he just thought with all the injuries (and the facts we didn’t buy two defenders as we should have), our sub-standard performance that he would throw a hail mary ;) …something to talk about and shift the focus on something else (genius if you ask me :) ) lol

  • 11 toonLYF // Oct 12, 2012 at 12:21 PM

    Ed, you forgot to mention the great Perchinho nominated for Brazilian player of the year.

  • 12 Graeme // Oct 12, 2012 at 12:21 PM

    Fray bentos – I’m working as well. Is it ok if I blame hotdog also??

  • 13 jesperfuglsang // Oct 12, 2012 at 12:26 PM

    Lets all blame hotdog :)

    ToonLYF…just don’t go say such ‘crazy’ things when you are outside in the real world :D ‘the blue van’ has picked up people saying less crazy stuff like that lol

  • 14 fray bentos // Oct 12, 2012 at 12:26 PM

    @Graeme

    Yep just blame hotdog, im also blaming him for my hangover aswell

  • 15 Mister Tuff // Oct 12, 2012 at 12:27 PM

    Apologies -repost.

    The big story today seems to be the Northern Echo interview with Llambias about not buying replacements in the transfer window. Link;-
    http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/football/newcastle/news/9980575.Llambias_says_Magpies_will_still_be_careful/
    What he says is at variance to what they were doing in the summer ie chasing Douglas and Debuchy. I do not know what to believe anymore.

  • 16 jesperfuglsang // Oct 12, 2012 at 12:35 PM

    MT…I never thought DL had any idea how to run a football club in the first place – still don’t (can’t blame him for not wanting to cater for the likes of Lille or Twente; it is not like anyone else came after the players in question) :)

    …I blame him for not thinking out of the box and not realizing that you infact do need two in every position!

  • 17 Graeme // Oct 12, 2012 at 12:35 PM

    Fray, I don’t have a hangover problem, just major headache getting an invoice paid. The Work is done, their accounts department reluctant to transfer the 2.2 million!! Its starting to piss me off to be honest – even more than our lack of a CB lol

  • 18 xmindcrimex // Oct 12, 2012 at 12:37 PM

    Mister Tuff

    Yeah, then suddenly when no one expects anything. A player arrives in January. Llambias and Ashley are two sly devils. They won’t be held to ransom over any player.

    Other clubs should know that by now and might think twice about playing hard ball with Newcastle if that might risk no deal being made at all.

  • 19 jesperfuglsang // Oct 12, 2012 at 12:38 PM

    Graeme… £2.2M you say; that’s just peanuts in here ;) lol

  • 20 check the toastie // Oct 12, 2012 at 12:39 PM

    Kets got a bit of a serious hard time on the last thread as he didnt quite mince his words, however it is bad news for the pair of young lads who are injured, however they have ben in and around the 1st team for 18months and have been totally unconvincing.

    It is about time somebody else was given a chance and unfortunaely those injuries for me have given Pardewasaurus no choice but to stop playing them, Sort of good news if you look at improving the performance of the team IMO.

  • 21 Graeme // Oct 12, 2012 at 12:44 PM

    Jesper, I’m sure it is mate, but I have 35 staff to pay before I fly to UK next week. They will not be happy if their salaries are not paid at the end of the month – thats the headache!!

  • 22 fray bentos // Oct 12, 2012 at 12:45 PM

    I think its a bad thing to make injuries good news when our squad is already weak in depth, bit daft if you ask me but in his head, Kets has a whole new starting 11 coming in January so makes sense to his odd mind

  • 23 fray bentos // Oct 12, 2012 at 12:51 PM

    @graeme

    The hangover is just tip of the iceberg, im sorting out some insurance and dealing with several brokers at the moment while nursing the hangover

    im also blaming the need for insurance on hotdog

    but don’t envy sorting out 35 employess salories one bit, good luck with that

  • 24 Mister Tuff // Oct 12, 2012 at 12:53 PM

    xmindcrimex @#15.
    Yes that is definitely a possibility.
    Risk management about whether you get replacements for injury prone players, duff players is a gamble. If your players get crocked and you do not have quality replacements you lose the gamble (and potentially millions from the PL due to worse league position). If no-one gets injured, the whole squad plays well then you win the gamble of not buying.

  • 25 jesperfuglsang // Oct 12, 2012 at 12:54 PM

    Graeme…hope you didn’t miss my sarcasm :) (the £2M and peanuts are a running joke in here)

    …employees don’t like not being payed I can tell you that ;) (but you already know that)

  • 26 Graeme // Oct 12, 2012 at 12:56 PM

    Fray, send me hotdogs number, I’ll leave it for the staff – it must be his fault by now lol

    I’m sure it will all be sorted before next week – but its always good to have a back-up lol Good luck with your insurance

  • 27 Graeme // Oct 12, 2012 at 1:03 PM

    Jesper, One way or another, the salaries will be paid at the end of the month, thats for certain. Never missed one yet – its not worth the aggro lol

  • 28 Nufc-83 // Oct 12, 2012 at 1:03 PM

    Mister Tuff // Oct 12, 2012 at 12:00 PM

    Nufc-83 @# 15.
    You state “Wonga looks like a great deal for us as we get the beloved st james park back so…….”
    Could I just pose one question –who did we get it back from?
    I’ll try to answer the question as well….mmmmmmmm, well let me see,mmmmmm –got it –It was Ashley.

    So what it happened an MA changed the name what do you want me to say that i didnt agree with the name change? well i didnt but not many companies would have bought the naming rights then changed it back to st james park so i am happy about it.

  • 29 hotdog // Oct 12, 2012 at 1:05 PM

    Graeme its 0770357643 – the way my day is going, getting blamed is par for the course, started with the missus at 7am, kids at 7.30 – Bring it on ;-)

  • 30 toonLYF // Oct 12, 2012 at 1:08 PM

    jesper – i’m willing to fight off every blue van-man in the world in the name of our great king Perch.

    Besides, my definition of being mentally ill is people who don’t believe Perchihno is the best Brazilian player since the Romario/Rivaldo/Ronaldo transition. :D

  • 31 Graeme // Oct 12, 2012 at 1:09 PM

    Hotdog, pmsl mate. You just cheered me up no end. Thank you

    I hope your day gets a whole lot better – I’m sure your wife and kids love you.

    I’m still laughing, you are a star.

  • 32 Tsunki // Oct 12, 2012 at 1:12 PM

    Hmm tried hotdogs nunber all I got was Mike Williamson’s voicemail. Suppose that’s right though.

  • 33 fray bentos // Oct 12, 2012 at 1:12 PM

    hotdog the blame security blanket

  • 34 hotdog // Oct 12, 2012 at 1:14 PM

    Mister Tuff – Cheers for the link

    Complete tosh though “You can’t have two purples per position because the club cant afford it. You have to be realistic.”
    So what he is saying is that they expect Colo and Taylor to be uninjured and play every game and if they do get injured Perch and Williamson are adequate back up. My word this really worries me we must have a top notch centre back to compete with Taylor and Colo. Its my own opinion that i dont think Taylor is good enough for top four/champions league footballand for me he would be challenging Colo and a top centre back. I dont get riled easily but this centre back fiasco has managed it because it is costing us every week!!

  • 35 hotdog // Oct 12, 2012 at 1:16 PM

    Tsunki – I was wondering which numpty would try it haha – Mike Williamson dont get me started speak to kets :-)

  • 36 fray bentos // Oct 12, 2012 at 1:19 PM

    Back to the subject of this post, how good a season did Cisse have for Freiburg before he came to us?

    If he played well for them then he’s got to be a close contender

    I wouldn’t say Ba or Tiote would deserve it

  • 37 jesperfuglsang // Oct 12, 2012 at 1:19 PM

    ToonLYF…you are going to be in for one hell of a fight there mate ;) (but can’t foul your enthusiasm) lol

  • 38 fray bentos // Oct 12, 2012 at 1:20 PM

    sorry ignore that, just realised its just for the year 2012 rather than the season 11/12

  • 39 Graeme // Oct 12, 2012 at 1:21 PM

    Can we not have a purple and a really dark blue? Maybe we could add some mauve or indigo? Would need some brighter contrast though or it will just look like doom and gloom!!

    Now, where have I heard that before??!!

  • 40 jesperfuglsang // Oct 12, 2012 at 1:26 PM

    Hotdog…that was the same I tried to get my head around earlier (in my book DL should stick to Casino’s and leave football matter to someone who knows what he’s saying and doing) ;)

    …maybe that was what Joey B meant when he said “if you pay peanuts you get monkeys) lol

  • 41 jesperfuglsang // Oct 12, 2012 at 1:29 PM

    Graeme…now indigo that’s a nice color ;D throw some moroon in there as well

  • 42 Graeme // Oct 12, 2012 at 1:35 PM

    This was just sent to me from UK – anyone need cheering up, its good.

    This is how World War 2 would have taken place if face book was about Hilarious

    http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/2CxcWn/:16w2N8SO@:IuGCtVI9/lol.desire-z.us/2011/11/this-war.html/

    Have to go back to work, enjoy your day.

  • 43 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 12, 2012 at 1:38 PM

    Buenos dias! Just letting people know that I am checking in on you all…so behave. Especially you Jesper….

    What’s that number for? The hotdog hotline for all your hotdog needs 24/7?

  • 44 Mister Tuff // Oct 12, 2012 at 1:39 PM

    Nufc-83 @#28.
    I certainly did not want you to say that you did not agree with the name change. I was merely pointing out, my opinion, that all this hogwash about the re-naming of SJP was a cynical device used to appease fans or probably get greater acceptance by the fans to the Wonga deal.
    The stadium will always be SJP to me, but trying to portray Wonga as the good guys in my opinion has backfired. I’m surprised they have not announced that Wonga will be handing out food parcels to the needy in the City Centre on Christmas Eve.

  • 45 jesperfuglsang // Oct 12, 2012 at 1:42 PM

    Ibiza…I always behave ;)

    …Tsunki tried, but he just got Willo’s voicemail :(

  • 46 jesperfuglsang // Oct 12, 2012 at 1:46 PM

    Talk to you guys later :)

    …gotta see a nursery about a boy!

  • 47 toonLYF // Oct 12, 2012 at 1:49 PM

    so, which of you are lucky enough to be making the trip to Sunlun on the 21st?

  • 48 Nufc-83 // Oct 12, 2012 at 1:52 PM

    The fact of the matter is MA changed the name which was a bad move and he would not have been bothered if it had been called the Half price jewellers stadium as long as he got the money so Wonga changing it back regardless of the reason they are doing it is good.

  • 49 Mister Tuff // Oct 12, 2012 at 1:59 PM

    Hotdog.
    What worries me is Llambias stating that Williamson is doing a fantastic job.
    No he isn’t. He might be an honest bloke, he might give 100% but he is not a
    quality player. That is not his fault it is just the way it is. He fails to see the runners on most occasions (viz first goal against Man U and the corner which led to the goal). He appears not to have the presence to marshal the defence.
    Now I hope Llambias is lying.

  • 50 hotdog // Oct 12, 2012 at 2:02 PM

    Ibiza – Stop phoning me i cant help you. You are a lost cause my friend :-)

    Graeme #42 – You see there is still humour in the world brilliant haha

  • 51 Mister Tuff // Oct 12, 2012 at 2:05 PM

    Nufc-83.
    I agree with you that all the problems started with the original removal of the name SJP -clearly the hierarchy had absolutely no inkling of the public furore that was about to follow.

  • 52 hotdog // Oct 12, 2012 at 2:18 PM

    Mister Tuff- Agree totally and i dont want to have a pop at willo as he seems an honest lad, playing at a level way above him, like you say not his fault.

    I just dont think we have had a commanding centre half since……..well for me Killer Kilcline (been going to SJP since late 70′s), he made a massive difference in our promotion season with Venners. Since then Howey and Albert but then im struggling, look at the top teams currently Vidic, Kompany, Vermaelen.

    I understand the club pulling out of a deal if it is not right but you then go for your next choice. Mr Carr must have options on this?

  • 53 pbNcl // Oct 12, 2012 at 2:18 PM

    I’ve never been so anti-ashley as I am now. I’ve always been infuriated, and then I’ve calmed down. As much as I appreciate the financial stability and good business stratergy, he clearly does not have a heart. And football without a soul is dead. Football can’t jus be a business, its gotta have feeling aswell.

  • 54 bollance // Oct 12, 2012 at 2:18 PM

    MA changed the name of the stadium to put sports direct in the papers for a month in the run up to Xmas. Free advertising but at our expense.

    Now he has brought the club financial reward, not sure how much though, to change it back. Maybe that will buy us a new player?

  • 55 pbNcl // Oct 12, 2012 at 2:23 PM

    Positively tho, I still think we are positioned exceptionally well and pardew no doubt has a master plan as to how he’s gonna assault the league… Its all tactics and double bluff’s with him. He will switch formation, but only when he thinks the time is right. We’re a difficult unit to work out

  • 56 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 12, 2012 at 2:27 PM

    Hotdog…Harsh but ultimately true. Wont stop me calling though. What does the 1,000th caller win?

    pbNcl….We’re going to have to rely on Pardew and the lads to give us the heart and soul aspect of football. That is until Ashley takes a trip to Oz and get’s himself a heart. Agree with you in regards to Pardew and his bluffing. He may be slow to change things from where we’re sitting, I don’t think it’s down to him not seeing it though, but as you say, when he thinks the time is right. It is his job after all, you have to think he knows what he’s doing – to some degree at least….surely :)

  • 57 davybtoon // Oct 12, 2012 at 2:34 PM

    I have to say I agree with dl that perch n willo are doin a great job, not to mention we have tavernier, streete n good on brink of first team do we really need a cb I don’t think we do, are pos in league has nothing to do with not signing defenders it’s bcoz were playing poor as a whole team

  • 58 Nufc-83 // Oct 12, 2012 at 2:37 PM

    I have always been pro ashley and was a very positive poster on this blog until the summer when we failed to bring in a CB and a FB. That i couldn’t forgive as i was sure it would have a massive impact on our season when spending a relatively small amount of money in football terms would have got us these players. I moved to the dark side and got slagged on this blog with people saying you have no facts that it will have an impact, simmo and williamson got us 5th, perch and raylor have been brilliant and provide enough cover well im afraid this hasnt panned out at all and it seems it was a huge mistake to not bring these players through the door.

  • 59 bollance // Oct 12, 2012 at 2:40 PM

    DavyB

    Spot on. A new defender would have taken time to settle, like colo did. Also if u look at santon he took till Xmas to get in team ahead of raylor.

    Also why would you play the new defender ahead of Willo who played most of last season for the team who finished 5th.

  • 60 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 12, 2012 at 2:40 PM

    OK, just flicking through the past 24 hours of blog news…..and now I regret my reference to Wizard of Oz.

    Can someone fill me in with how I’ve been likened to Toto and Dorothy? Not that I mind of course.

  • 61 bollance // Oct 12, 2012 at 2:44 PM

    Nufc

    We did get a new international pedigree fullback in Anita? Is he not good enough for u?

  • 62 Nufc-83 // Oct 12, 2012 at 2:45 PM

    Davytoon you are deluded our defending has been an absaloute joke this season and i agree as a team we have not been at our best but if you think we would not have more pts on the board if we had bought a cb and a fb then you are simply to put it nuts.

  • 63 hotdog // Oct 12, 2012 at 2:47 PM

    davybtoon – The point is they are not ready now which is going to cost us. You might be right and they might go on to make great centre backs but for me you need an old head there with experience.

    Ibiza – Very kind of you to offer your lovely accomodation in sunny Ibiza. Ill let you know who the 1000 caller is, you might get Kets, Beefman hahahaha

    pbncl – I cant get worked up against Ashley, tried that one with McKeag but to no avail ;-)

  • 64 davybtoon // Oct 12, 2012 at 2:47 PM

    Nufc83 what ppl like u fail to mention Is there is no evidence to prove a new cb n fb would make the slightest bit of difference they could of been really poor like colo was like Jose was

    Bollance I agree willo gets slated but he played a major role in us getting 5th n are 15 clean sheets is he really that bad no

  • 65 Nufc-83 // Oct 12, 2012 at 2:47 PM

    Bollance anita was clearly brought in to add competition to the cm spot and provide cover if required at fb. I dont think although he can do a job he would be as good as an out and out fb like debuchy.

  • 66 davybtoon // Oct 12, 2012 at 2:50 PM

    Nufc83 u can’t say a new cb n fb would have us more points bcoz it’s simply not true they could of been garbage jus look at how long Anita is taking to settle to English football as an example

  • 67 Nufc-83 // Oct 12, 2012 at 2:51 PM

    This is the exact rubbish i am talking about in that when i went into neggar mode in the summer because we failed to bring in the required players i got responses like but you dont know it would make a difference. Well im afraid that you have got to use football judgment its like saying now that if we bought ronaldo, messi and Kompany we would not be playing any better as they may not fit into the squad etc. My footballing judgement would tell me they would have given us extra points so far this season.

  • 68 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 12, 2012 at 2:52 PM

    Hotdog…..I did? Well if you say I did I must have done. Personally I’m hoping they both win. Finally get the three posters who make the most sense together!

  • 69 bollance // Oct 12, 2012 at 2:53 PM

    Nufc

    I am with Davy on this one. Since when did buying players become the solution? The current defensive squad got us 5th last season. Why would pards think we needed more players because we have not lost any defenders over the summer and we had no defensive injuries before the close of the transfer window.

    The one player we have signed has not yet lived up to the reputation placed on him from his previous manager. But he will come good, once he gets a good nights sleep ;)

    New players take time to settle, that is a fact. Not many hit the ground running.

    You need to start trusting the management team in the club. They have a much better idea then any of us. That is their job and as far as I can see the great squad we have is because of their expertise. Keep the faith.

  • 70 davybtoon // Oct 12, 2012 at 2:53 PM

    Nufc fans better get there head round the fact that were gonna promote youth players a lot more n hence not as many signings will b made n I support this, yes we do need to sign top players from time to time but we also need to promote the likes of Tav n fergie n dummitt that’s 3 full backs right there n 2 are lbs

  • 71 hotdog // Oct 12, 2012 at 2:53 PM

    bollance – You normally post decent comments i pressume you have finished for the week and are on an early weekend bender!

    Do you honestly believe what you have wrote there. I’ll tell you what Jan Vertonghen is a class act and will help spurs get into the top four imo. Do you not think he would have walked straight into our team ahead of Willo.

  • 72 toonLYF // Oct 12, 2012 at 2:56 PM

    see Borini is out for several months for the bindippers, and Suarez is 2 yellows from a suspension and then they will have literally no strikers over the age of 18 in their entire system…………………HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    …yet another reason why i love Andy Carroll.

  • 73 WWYCD // Oct 12, 2012 at 2:57 PM

    Really lads? Happy that we didnt bring in defenders during the summer depsite the fact we have been light there since the championship?

  • 74 bollance // Oct 12, 2012 at 2:58 PM

    Davy

    Also we have young Street too who if he was not injured may have played in preseason. One for the future.

    These players need a root to the first team which is blocked by average players. This will mean that Willo has a shelf life. He will be sold this year or next, that is guaranteed because the squad does not to evolve and improve. Then the ‘fans’ can pick on another player because all teams have a weak link.

  • 75 davybtoon // Oct 12, 2012 at 2:59 PM

    Nufc83 u point on messi ronaldo n konpany is well pointless of course they would make a difference there world class players, n as good as debuchy n Douglas are they have only ever played in France n holland n there n there is nothing to confirm they would n an instant success captain colo was garbage for his first season

  • 76 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 12, 2012 at 2:59 PM

    LYF….I’m not the sort of guy to take pleasure out of others misfortunes….but HAHAHAHAHHAHA….right then, I best go change – that’s hilarious.

  • 77 ppb // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:00 PM

    @ibiza an unnamed person posted “over the rainbow” to cheer people up and when someone saw toto their first thought was you.
    i then cruelly added that if you’re toto ruddy is Dorothy (i know, nasty). and somebody else said you could be Dorothy

  • 78 hotdog // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:01 PM

    Ibiza – Three :-/ Im not coming with those lunatics :-)

  • 79 Nufc-83 // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:02 PM

    bollance if these players are as good as you say they are then the best way for them would be to go out on loan to a championship club and get used to competitive football in big stadiums. It would not be fair on the majority of the youngsters like streete to throw him in at the deep end in premiership games. Same with cambell as soon we will be out of the europa stages playing excellent opposition and its unfair to put them in at prem level straight away risking in damaging them mentally.

  • 80 davybtoon // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:03 PM

    Wwycd yea am happy we have to promote are own players ie Tav, streete good fergie, dummitt who is on loan, otherwise the reserve system is pointless, I’ve no doubt we will sign a defender in jan but a young one

  • 81 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:03 PM

    ppb….I could have guessed you’d be behind it buddy ;)

    If only you knew how funny the comparisons to a dog and a woman with sparkly shoes were….and no, I will not be announcing it on here. Draw your own conclusions by all means – but I shall never tell!

  • 82 WWYCD // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:03 PM

    davy
    Are u justifying us not buying any defenders by saying if we did they might not do well because they havent ever played in the PL?

  • 83 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:05 PM

    Hotdog….Naturally I meant myself. You certainly make the top 20 though.

  • 84 WWYCD // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:05 PM

    davy
    Am sure u had no doubt we would buy a defender for the past 2 transfer windows…maybe doubt should be creeping into ur thought process my friend

  • 85 davybtoon // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:06 PM

    Wwycd am not justifying the fact we signed no one by saying they would not to do well, am simply saying it is not fact they would do well n have a difference to our point tally

  • 86 ppb // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:07 PM

    @ibiza are you a gay bear cabinet act? is that your successful business?

  • 87 toonLYF // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:07 PM

    Ibiza…Liverpool FC – A great laugh for all the family.

  • 88 beefman13 // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:08 PM

    Sorry ibiza it was your loving beefman, ppb sent a link with judy garland singing SOTRainbow the woz,

    your name popped in to my head for the two individuals!

    sorry ,animal n human, i didnt mean it to it just happened sorry bonny !
    i now see you as Maximus after watching gladiator late last night.

    Hope thats a bit better i actually got told off for insulting you ha ha IT WASNT MEANT AS AN INSULT BY THE WAY.like toto you would be a good friend and good at fetching sticks ha ha.

    see how popular u are as you know i am a bit trigger happy, and my mind the same, i cant control it, im trying so bloody hard though ha ha

    Jail is still in the coal bunker, scared to come out.

    My demenour was quite forceful yesterday, a few very choice words.

    i will tone that down.

    keyboard assasins! stay above the belt not below.

  • 89 Nufc-83 // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:09 PM

    At the end of the day its still not fact that ronaldo etc would improve us which most posters seem to want on here to justify comments. For me if we had brought in two new defenders with a decent pedigree to challenge the first team we would have been in a better position than we are now .

  • 90 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:10 PM

    ppb…Close…but I couldn’t call it successful.

    LYF…..They certainly are. I always questioned American’s sense of humour, but since those guys came in it’s been non-stop laughs. Fair play to them.

  • 91 rainrix // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:10 PM

    Well transfers are at the end of the day risks, but with our scouting system i have faith that those risks would pay off. I’d bet my house we’d have a higher points tally if we had signed some defenders (no disrespect to any of our current defenders)

  • 92 davybtoon // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:11 PM

    Wwycd am in a good place as far as the team is concerned am buzzing fergie n Tav are getting there chance along with the rest of the youth that’s the way we build our squad by promoting not buying, yes I wanna see us sign some players but am jus as happy about young players being promoted

  • 93 rainrix // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:12 PM

    Speaking of liverpool has anyone been watching that documentary series about them on 5? I watched the 1st episode and wanted to top myself, propaganda in its purest form :|

  • 94 ppb // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:12 PM

    @ibiza are you miss ophelia balls?

  • 95 davybtoon // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:13 PM

    Why are so many fans against bringing through are own talent

  • 96 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:13 PM

    beefman….Don’t worry yourself….I took it as a compliment :)

    You have become forceful lately, you just on guard anticipating the unrest that would follow given the recent news? It’s going to be a long season, save some energy and chose your battles wisely.

    Don’t want our little soldier burning out.

  • 97 bollance // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:14 PM

    Hotdog

    I actually thought about vertonghen as I was writing, after seeing him a few times he has really impressed and hit the ground running. But he signed for a more attractive team. Sadly the draw of london will always make us lose out on certain players. But then again not all players like the prospect of moving to london – tiote.

    I actually believe we needed to do a lot of surgery on the defence and sell Simo, Willo, Taylor and possibly colo.

    Simo – good defensively but uncomfortable going forward. Having an attacking right flank will utilise the attacking treat of hba. A right back on the same wave length as hba will get in behind defences on a regular basis.

    Willo – aerially very good (has won 60% of headers this season) but I will never forget when he was out jumped by n’zog. Too slow meaning defence needs to sit deep. We need a fast mobile defence to push up meaning midfield can be closer to strikers. That is a problem we have at present?

    Taylor – love the guy and this is a tough decision because he bleeds black and white. But he is injury prone. Titles are built on strong consistent defences. Las season the defence stocked together and we went 11 unbeaten.

    Colo – another tough decision and this is certainly the most controversial. This one hinges on whether we could replace him with a younger faster player in his ability bracket. As captain though he may well be irreplaceable at present. Also he still has a bit of pace.

    We would only sell above if we had better replacements lined up. As we did not sell anyone I believe that is the reason we did not buy in the summer. We have strict wage budget.

    I know I contradict myself because the new Player would take time to replace but we should have started the replacement process with Willo or Simo. Maybe we have Simo’s replacement in Anita?

    I believe the reason we did not buy a replacement or push the envelope with Douglas was because perch played so well against tottenham.

  • 98 WWYCD // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:15 PM

    davy
    I think ur stretching a bit there tbh lad, if we had a CB who could lead a back four and a full back who could defend and support our points tally would be increased because we wouldnt be plastering over holes with utility men

    As for youngsters getting their shot am all for that but they should earn their spot through training not because we have very limited options through injuries

  • 99 bollance // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:16 PM

    Davyb

    People want success and trophies now. Bringing players through will impact on the success of the team. It is not an easy transition.

    Players should be sent on loan. I am disappointed we only have dummett on loan at present. Not good enough

  • 100 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:17 PM

    Davy…I don’t think they’re against it, just don’t want that to put the only source of new players for the first team. There can be a healthy mix of the 2 (buying and bringing through youth). I think defense is a sore issue for a lot of people, it’s been a well known issue, well, for bloody ages at Newcastle, there is good reason why people are fed up with it.

    Overall though, things are coming together, so I think people should keep some perspective and try and have some more patience….not always easy though.

    ppb…..Who?

  • 101 fray bentos // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:19 PM

    @bollance

    Colo is irreplaceable in my opinion, yeah there is probably better defenders out there but he’s already established within the team, our captain and one of the best ball-players in our team. We could sell him and buy a younger potentially better defender but they will take time to adjust, cost loads of money and might not even become that good.

  • 102 rainrix // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:20 PM

    Theres a time and a place for bleeding youngsters in. It shouldn’t be like at reading where we’ve lost most of our defence through injury. It should be done when we are in comfortable positions and the risk is low. That way they can adapt to the pace without a huge wedge of pressure on their backs.

  • 103 rainrix // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:23 PM

    @ibiza… Get off the fence mate ;) .

  • 104 davybtoon // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:23 PM

    Wwycd fergie has earned his spot at lb n santon is a natural rb so am happy with that, mbwia would b the signing if we were to sign someone can play rb, cb n lb that’s the type player we need, bcoz colo n staylor no1 cb pairing is someone gonna sit on bench behind them or are one of them gonna sit on bench don’t think so

  • 105 ppb // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:24 PM

    @ibiza. local transvestite entertainer

  • 106 WWYCD // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:24 PM

    Ibiza
    I feel sorry for ur ar$e lad must ache from sitting on that fence for so long ;)

  • 107 hotdog // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:29 PM

    Bollance – Yes you do seem to be contradicting youreslf slightly ;-) Look im all for the youth getting the chances and developing and good may come good!! but you cant paint over this. It is staring every fan in the face that we have messed up badly not bringing in somebody to challenge, really challenge Taylor and Colo. You mention Perch in one game, that does not warrant a starting place at centre back in the premier league. As ive stated earlier i am happy in every other aspect in the way NUFC are heading but half the season is gone come january and it could all be too late. It reminds me of the shocking decision to sell Sir Les without a back up and Shearer did his ligaments :-(

  • 108 Nufc-83 // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:31 PM

    Apart from Davy a lot of sense getting spoken today.

  • 109 bollance // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:31 PM

    If we could afford his wages and he wanted to come what would anyone think about micha Richards? Can play right back and centre back. He was brilliant against us at right back last season.

    He maybe lacks the flair to effectively link up with hba but his explosive running could be utilised by hba’s creativity.

    We apparently made enquiries late in the summer transfer window so he is on the list somewhere unless it was just paper talk which is more then likely.

    I would be happy with him and would represent an improvement in our squad

  • 110 davybtoon // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:32 PM

    If the whole team had played better we would have more points, nothing to do with not getting a cb n fb

  • 111 beefman13 // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:33 PM

    Ibiza, it was heavy duty yesterday and the day before but a good laugh as well.

    any blogger getting called a peado sympathizer would hit the roof, i did, thats why Jail is in a gimp mask now in the cellar!!!! ha ha.

  • 112 Nufc-83 // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:33 PM

    Fergie earned his place at LB what a position that he is blatantly uncomfortable with i love the lad but he is a clear direct winger in the mould of gillespie and is getting pushed in to playing their because pardew will not move Jonas from that psoition for some unknown reason. If anything Jonas should be LB and fergie LM.

  • 113 rainrix // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:33 PM

    bollance… I’d take Richards in a heartbeat. He’d be a bit rusty probably but nothing a few games would fix up. Although how old is he nowadays? He’s one of those players who seems to have been around for ever :)

  • 114 WWYCD // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:34 PM

    davy
    Fergy earned a shot but his constant injury problems means theres a lot of questions about the reliablity of him in the long run plus he is a winger

    As for a CB coming in to sit on the bench its competition for places and the best defender will play thats how all successful teams run. Having a set starting 11 that has next to no competition behind them encourages lazy performances and poor results imo

  • 115 davybtoon // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:36 PM

    Nufc83 u can’t blame lack of points on defenders not being signed if the whole team played better we would have more points, am speaking sense it’s just fans like you believe spending money is only answer when it’s not

  • 116 Nufc-83 // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:36 PM

    Rainrix cant be bothered looking but hes still young i would say 25 at most. Richards imo is a beast and actually improved his attacking play to the point where he was causing major damage down the right hand side against most teams. He is incredible in the air faster than most wingers and strong as an ox. If we got Richards i would be buzzing for weeks.

  • 117 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:39 PM

    Davybtoon
    There is a massive difference between bringing through young talent and throwing them in at the deep end and shattering there confidence
    You say fergie has earned his spot at lb i massivly disagree he’s played 45 minutes there and was completly overwhelmed until he moved to LW where he played better but looked shaken at one point jonas was literarly shouting at him and pointing up the wing to get him to run
    To throw him in at LB, in the derby game, away from home? No way bring them through slowly from the bench
    And yeah signing a cb would of made a huge difference

  • 118 bollance // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:39 PM

    Hotdog

    I am still back tracking..

    At very least I would have liked to have seen a better centre back then good. One who had played well in the championship yet still young. The centre back equivalent of Bigi. Yes, asking a lot and let’s face it nobody would have predicted the lad would have started a prem game already. But he gave us that added option.

    We do have a centre back deficiency in our squad which is highlighted by the fact Richardson and Newton have filled in at centre back for u21′s and a 16 year old played most of u21 games at start of season.

  • 119 Nufc-83 // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:41 PM

    Lol as i said it was only this summer that i moved to the negger side of the fence because i actually liked the fact the we used our scouting network to find good players who fit into the team well. i do not think blowing money on big money signings is the way to go but we should have brought in players to improve the team and def has been an area of weakness for so long its ridiculous.

  • 120 WWYCD // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:41 PM

    davy
    If we bought a CB/FB it would of allowed the forward players to play more openly and allow the team to perform better

    Bollance
    Richards would be fantastic but I doubt we would be so bold as to go for him too much money my friend…we are poundland shoppers not debenhams ;)

  • 121 bollance // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:42 PM

    Micha Richards – turned 24 in June.

  • 122 rainrix // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:42 PM

    Sorry davy you’re really out numbered on this argument :)

  • 123 rainrix // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:44 PM

    24 really? Wow thought he was around 25 26 he’d be well worth a punt.

  • 124 davybtoon // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:44 PM

    Fergie is winger but he’s looked great at lb plus as winger there’s more players ahead of him
    And signing cb would not of made a huge difference u can’t say that like its fact, it might of but he could easily of been poor while settling

  • 125 hotdog // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:45 PM

    Bollance- Id take him if he is available, defo improvment on Simmo

    WWYCD – Totally correct, well said

    Davyb – You must be able to see that the defence is the weak link and…………………..you know what it doesnt matter. If Colo and Taylor aint fit on Sunday you watch the car crash that will happen and we will discuss then.

  • 126 Nufc-83 // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:46 PM

    Davys team for the dearby game

    Alnwick

    Tav Good streete Fergie

    Amaf Inman Bigi Maddison

    Cambell JJ Hooper

  • 127 Nufc-83 // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:48 PM

    I would take a guess that Richards would cost 10mill+ so no chance

  • 128 fray bentos // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:48 PM

    Aye richards would be a mint signing

    Great attitude above all else

    But never gonna happen, too much money and probably too many good teams after him if he is available

  • 129 ppb // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:48 PM

    @nufc i agree with you but that team was a low blow mate

  • 130 bollance // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:50 PM

    Davy does have a point in that we are doing more defending which makes it more likely we concede goals.

    There are probably stats in terms of territorial possession to prove we are doing more defending this year in comparison to last or our possession is less.

    One thing that is true is we do not hold onto the ball enough.

    Let’s hope it all comes together against the scum then the season can finally get up and running for us!

  • 131 Nufc-83 // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:50 PM

    the only players that should be staying with the first team and not being loaned out would be Fergie, sammy and Bigi. These players seem to have developed quickly and i would start including them as much as possible. The rest should be sent on loan to championship clubs if possible i mean how good would it be for the likes of Cambell to be playing for a team week in week out in the championship in stadiums with 30k fans in attendance.

  • 132 hotdog // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:51 PM

    NUFC-83 – :-)

  • 133 jesperfuglsang // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:51 PM

    I think I’ll decline on the trip to Sunlun on the 21th – I google it and it doesn’t seem like a nice place B-) not at all lol!

  • 134 beefman13 // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:51 PM

    Nufc 83 you moved over to the negger side after we finished a point off the champions league?

    beacuse we did not sign centre half or right back.

    anita is class at right back if need be and bigi has shown he is very decent buy, as will amilafatano

    no disrespect son but if that has turned you in to a neggar than i have plenty more wars on here to contend with

    It seems like very very hard to please, and very very easy to displease, it really does.

  • 135 davybtoon // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:52 PM

    Am sorry like but it’s complete load of crap saying a new cb would improve are forward players
    As team we jus arnt playing well perch n willo weren’t really to blame for man utd, the whole team sat back which in turn led to corners bcoz of the pressure wasn’t till we were 2-0 down we started defending from the front n pressing them we got in the game

  • 136 WWYCD // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:52 PM

    davy
    Sorry like fella I see where ur coming from but ur being a bit too over the top in it. Europa league, Carling cup early FA cup is where our young guns can make their name PL is where we should be earning our stripes with proven players not taking risks because our transfer dealins have left us out to dry again

    fray bentos
    Last I heard on Richards his attitude was often called into question (its why he isnt in the England squad by all accounts Ive heard)

  • 137 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:52 PM

    When did everyone become so concerned with my bottom? :)

    Leave me and my fence alone. We’re happy, get over it.

  • 138 Nufc-83 // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:54 PM

    bollance that can be argued that everything starts from the back. For example if the ball was put over the top williamson or Perch would more than likely clear their lines which is fair enough i don’t want them messing around but this gives the opposition possession and puts us under pressure but if Colo had been playing he more than likely would have found a pass to maintain possession and build play up.

  • 139 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:57 PM

    Davy
    I know you place a lot of faith in our youth but that faith is seriously misplaced
    For a start were catergory 2 which is embarrasing seeing as weve stated were going to bring talent through rather than buy in, prob with that? Most our talented youth we have bought in like bigi we produce very little

    As for a CB apart from streete and good we dont even have any in the reserves! We are desperate for a cb

    As for fergie bieng a good fullback hes not he has no positional sense at all at the back he’s a winger
    Also by putting him at lb with santon at rb your basically saying hes a better defender than simpson based on his 45mins vs manure which is ridiculous
    Oh and stop saying fans like you its not a negative view bieng expressed its just different to yours some ppl overrate our youngsters some see the acadamy for what is, behind the times and in the middle of a heavy overhaul

  • 140 Nufc-83 // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:58 PM

    Beefman the thing is i thought the fact that we had achieved such an outstanding position in the league would allow us to kick on and make improvements to areas that we are weak. People on here constantly pointed out that we would more than likely not sign anyone etc and i argued against saying we signed Cisse at a good time we will improve etc. When we failed to bring in any defensive players it totally wiped out all my optimism tbh and really hope that we get a couple of decent players in jan so i can hop over the fence lol.

  • 141 fray bentos // Oct 12, 2012 at 3:59 PM

    @WWYCD

    Oh right, has he, i just based my opinion on when ive seen him play and his interviews, i don’t pay any attention to any news regarding England

  • 142 WWYCD // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:00 PM

    davy
    If u dont think a backline that the squad is confident in has an affect on the other players in the starting 11 then I fear for any team u play in mate

    Ibiza
    Its always been a concern mate just a underlying one….this is the intervention u have feared for months ;)

    We are all here for u mate but its time for u to pick a side ;)

  • 143 davybtoon // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:01 PM

    Hotdog – if u think the defence Is the only reason were playing bad u really do no nothing, for starters we don’t close down n pressure as a whole team which allows teams to pick us apart, we don’t hold onto the ball well enough to many sloppy passes, willo n perch are no were near as bad as fans make out, in general to many of our top players playing poorly cabaye no were near the player he was last season

    We will win derby no matter who is at cb scum are crap

  • 144 beefman13 // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:01 PM

    Man utd fans were spitting nails beacuse spurs beat them the other week.

    Blaming lack of cover at the back, even though they have five international centre halfs in their squad as well,

    sometimes credit goes to the other team, spurs caught man utd unaware, like man utd did with us on sunday.

    spurs got their tactics spot on.

    The fans made the centre backs scapegoats, it was just a really good display first half by spurs, man utd ripped them apart second half but spurs stole it at the death!

    Come on fellas we have been far to hard on ourselves lately about the team and club.

  • 145 fray bentos // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:02 PM

    @davybtoon

    Defenders will very often impact on forward players, they pass the ball to the midfield and forwards and are part of the team so ofcourse they affect them. Thats why we miss Colo so much, cos of his ball playing ability

  • 146 WWYCD // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:03 PM

    fray bentos
    Apparently so though its mostly rumours and hearsay nothing official, little comments here and there from managers when questioned about him point towards attitude being a problem with him

    I agree on the pitch he seems very professional though so who knows really

  • 147 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:03 PM

    Yo…Pick a side? Thought I’d done that a long time ago :)

    Ibizatoons bottom intervention….hmmmm….I’m getting out of here.

  • 148 hotdog // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:07 PM

    davybtoon – You are completey correct that did happen against man u. Now ask yourself this? If we had a top experienced centre back in our starting 11 do you think he would have let his midfield back off onto his lines or oganised them to stop it happening? (take Tony Adams as an example)

  • 149 fray bentos // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:07 PM

    When ive seen him he seemed to be giving everything in terms of effort so maybe its tactically were he lacks the right attitude

  • 150 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:10 PM

    Ketsbaia9
    Oct 12 – 2:16 PM
    I am special, because I’m the only one that talks sense on this blog. It is good news for Abeid that Vuckic and Gosling are injured. Abeid should’ve started ahead of them anyway. It also gives us a chance to look at Amalfitano.

    I’m disappointed for Dan, but we’ve had some really good news this morning. I’m also hoping that Simpson, Williamson and Tavernier get injured as well. I don’t want them to get serious injuries, but Marveaux typed injuries that’ll keep them out for the season.

    Mike will then have to invest in the squad in January, and therefore, we will be stronger. Hopefully Abeid will get a start in the next game. He deserves it.

    Have only just stopped laughing

  • 151 davybtoon // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:12 PM

    Toon army down south- are academy is being granted category 1 in the next few weeks, Simpson is a fantastic defender were he lacks is goin forward ill put money on it that simmo is better than debuchy at defending but debuchy attacks much better, am not baseing my view of fergie on 45mins seen him play there alot n he can do it, he was a winger but there clearly converting him to a lb were he played in reserves for last couple of seasons, n on are youth am not saying promote all the reserves at once but 3-4 should b brought through every season n thee ones not ready go on loan

  • 152 hotdog // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:13 PM

    davybtoon – Sorry you will have to show me where i said “The only reason we are playing badly is because of the defense”?

  • 153 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:14 PM

    Hotdog….See 152.

  • 154 WWYCD // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:15 PM

    Ibiza
    Aww dont run off we have donuts! And am sure we can find someone to give u a cuddle afterwards :D

    toonarmydownsouth
    Did kets really say all that? Scum jumps to my mind

  • 155 fray bentos // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:15 PM

    I don’t understand!! What performances are certain posters basing Abeid’s ability on?

  • 156 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:15 PM

    I have to apologise. Not that it’s out of the ordinary for me to talk absolute rubbish, but normally I do try and throw in the occasional bit of football chat. Must be the weather, that’s my excuse anyway.

  • 157 davybtoon // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:17 PM

    Hotdog I see what u are saying about a Adams style cb pushing them out, but the team were sitting back if u were there then I will of noticed tiote who was goin mental with every single player bcoz they were all sitting off

  • 158 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:18 PM

    tads…My response to your kets post there hasn’t shown. There was some bad language as I had referenced radioheads “Creep”. What would we do if that lad ever left the blog. Can’t believe people wanted him off the blog – madness.

    Fray…The one’s in their head I think. He does seem to have some talent, from the little I have seen of him, but talk about talking a young player up. Well, I suppose he is better than Cabaye……..

  • 159 fray bentos // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:18 PM

    Did Kets delete that post?

  • 160 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:18 PM

    Yo…..Doughnuts and cuddles? This could turn out to be the best day ever.

  • 161 bollance // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:22 PM

    A bit of fun..

    If tiote was not not a football player he would be…

    Finish off the sentence

  • 162 hotdog // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:22 PM

    Ibiza – I hope you get sun burn ;-)

    Right im off, good debate as always, even if ya wrong davybtoon ;-)

  • 163 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:24 PM

    Hotdog….In Staines? Have you gone mad? Maybe this weekend, when I’m back in Ibiza. Take it easy, don’t get burnt yourself, don’t like an overcooked hotdog myself.

  • 164 davybtoon // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:24 PM

    N just to prove my point about the defence look at barca yes there on another planet compared to us, but they have been playing 2 cm at cb but its dosent effect them bcoz they do the 2 things we don’t
    1- every single player presses n puts pressure to win ball back
    2- they keep the ball really well n rarely give it away by sloppy passes
    If we did these 2 things the defence would have no were near the pressure on it that it does now

  • 165 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:25 PM

    Bollance….I got it, i got it……

    A Wonga debt collector.

    Okay, I’ll go, no need to show me out. I’ll just grab my coat.

  • 166 Nufc-83 // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:26 PM

    Davy simpson a fantastic defender is this they guy that constantly backs off wingers allowing them acres of space and they guy that get caught out of position then occasionally gets away with it by goal line clearances? His defending has improved granted but fantastic he is just about solid.

  • 167 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:27 PM

    Fray
    He posted it at the end of the last article!

    Oh and no ones seen abied play at a competitive level

    Davy
    Yeah its bieng upgraded but that means were 3-4 years away from seeing those benefits
    Still think fergie is a LW and really shouldnt be at LB unless its an emergency!

  • 168 ppb // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:28 PM

    @bollance chuck Norris’ nemesis

  • 169 ppb // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:29 PM

    @bollance stalking the savannah in search of prey

  • 170 bollance // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:30 PM

    Ibiza mate

    Very topical but don’t go..

  • 171 Nufc-83 // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:32 PM

    Lol davy barca example is pointless as their attacking players are so much better than 99% of teams they play they will obviously not get put under much pressure at the back. Christ i could play cb in that team and look good.

  • 172 MacToon // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:33 PM

    Nufc-83, I’ve never had a chance until now to say the posts you made on jimmymagpie’s thread were totally uncalled for and highlight you as a twat.

    As we’re all in virtual space and obviously no one is real on here you can take it as read that I don’t exist to you.

  • 173 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:36 PM

    Bollance
    Wanted in every country for crimes against humanity??
    Ketsy’s handler?
    Standing behind you?
    Nah flower arranger

  • 174 WWYCD // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:36 PM

    http://duncanjenkins.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/such-little-thing-makes-such-big.html

    Very interesting read in regards to ‘ITKs’, its a bit of a long one but worth it. Its not about one of ours but rather a LFC one though the general theme is pretty universal

    Anyone already read it?

  • 175 bollance // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:39 PM

    Nufc

    Mactoon is right, even if u think dark thoughts like that it is best to keep them to yourself unless u have the evidence to back it up.

  • 176 Nufc-83 // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:39 PM

    lol Mactoon dont get me started on that hoax again.

  • 177 beefman13 // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:40 PM

    83 every season since we got relegated there has been some sort of disharmony with the fans about the buying and selling of players.

    You know yourself the enrique nolan barton carroll scenario a hell of a lot of fans were kicking off about not adaquete replacements, it was said by many we would be struggling down near relegation

    but it was a different story as the season unfolded, our scouting network again will have targets and although DL says maybe no high profile players coming in january we may still have a few surprises up our sleeve!

    remember cisse coming in not a week after it was announced that no strikers in all probability would be coming in.

    its expect the unexpected at the toon as we all know.

  • 178 davybtoon // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:42 PM

    Anyone confirm a giant screen been put up in st James park?

    Point about barca is they work there socks off for each other n that dosent require talent

  • 179 beefman13 // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:44 PM

    83 that was quite a theory that you came out with. about jimmy!

    i may ruffle a few feathers on here from time to time but maybe you shoud have kept that one to yourself son.

  • 180 Nufc-83 // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:44 PM

    Ok so i didnt realise that everyone had decided to keep that thread just to dedications and in the slight chance it was true i asked for them to be deleted. However i just used past experience in that certain blogs i have posted before it has been done over and over and although sometimes you dont find out a lot of the time you do and it turns out to be a hoax. I believe that if Jimmy did pass away we would have not known about it and it seemed timely with the fact that he had started taking a large amount of stick from his ITK posts. Anyway dont really want to drag the topic up again.

  • 181 Nufc-83 // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:46 PM

    Beefman the thing is i was always apart from Enrique and i dont believe we had much choice so didnt blame anyone very optimistic and always positive in the clubs direction. When we failed to bring in players in such a weak area with the team starting to look so good in other areas it knocked the stuffing out of me so to speak and i found it hard to be positive.

  • 182 Nufc-83 // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:48 PM

    Just out of interest have we had any new posters pop up in the last week or so that post relatively regularly?

  • 183 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:48 PM

    davy…can’t see it here….I’d question how giant it is.

  • 184 beefman13 // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:52 PM

    ibiza, its one of them 42 inch led ones that are lit at the back!

    when i was a kid that would have seemed like the odeon picture house ha ha.

  • 185 Nufc-83 // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:52 PM

    Davy i agree about closing down its a weak part of our game but you have to set your team out to play in that way and i dont believe with the likes of HBA on the pitch we can do it as effectively as the likes of barca.

  • 186 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 12, 2012 at 4:56 PM

    Beefman….42″? Doesn’t seem that big. Have I misread what was said? I feel i’ve missed something here.

    I’m going to lie microwave my head….think my brains cold. Starting to understand the gibberish some of you come out with normally – it’s the weather ;)

    Only a joke

  • 187 beefman13 // Oct 12, 2012 at 5:01 PM

    ibiza i was being pedantic, 42 inch is the size most have got now in our living rooms but when i was a kid it would have seemed humongous

    if their is a screen at st james park being put up, it will be one of those like at your old club!

    but were would they put it at the toon, honestly i dont know where it could be the way our stadium is.

  • 188 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Oct 12, 2012 at 5:05 PM

    Wongavision. That’s what it WILL be called. I’ll make sure of it.

    Be cool of we could get one of those ones they have in baseball in America, where it gives you stats and stuff about the players.

  • 189 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 12, 2012 at 5:07 PM

    Beefman…..ahhhhhhh. Sorry, should probably have picked up on that. I’m not aware of the one the gooners have, I’m a toon fan, why would I know? :)

    Wizard…Behave you little menace.

  • 190 Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand // Oct 12, 2012 at 5:08 PM

    lie microwave??? What was that about. Never mind.

  • 191 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Oct 12, 2012 at 5:10 PM

    Imagine, a giant screen with dreamboat’s face 200 inches high, with WONGAVISION in giant blue letters, and a giant plastic Wonga earl on top with his little legs partly dangling over the screen. And goats. Lots and lots of goats.

  • 192 solano // Oct 12, 2012 at 5:11 PM

    Can I point out that as someone who has been associated with “the darkside” for sometime in my opinions on the running of NUFC…I want to disassociate myself from Nufc 83′s recent conversion.
    I wholeheartedly agree with MacToon’s summary of nufc-83 following the news of JimmyMags demise and would like to add the words crass, obtuse and offensive….(words I also used lastnight for someone who is associated with the guardianship of the ‘OTT Posser’ line of the debate)

  • 193 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Oct 12, 2012 at 5:13 PM

    Dark side? When did the blog go all Star Wars? Dibs Jar Jar Binks.
    Meesa shut up now.

  • 194 Nufc-83 // Oct 12, 2012 at 5:13 PM

    Salano why would you be associated with that discussion?

  • 195 solano // Oct 12, 2012 at 5:13 PM

    Even Beefy had the good sense not to besmirch the tribute to JM!

  • 196 bollance // Oct 12, 2012 at 5:15 PM

    Wwycd

    Read the link. The problem is how can u believe anything posted by an itk?

    I follow colin (sorry for mentioning his name) but the way I see it is that reading his tweets is like reading the paper. How often do the papers get it right? But they still sell papers.

    Read another article on an itk coming clean, may have been the same guy but funny none the less.

  • 197 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Oct 12, 2012 at 5:16 PM

    I can sense a row coming on here. Who’s side to pick…
    Ah we’ll, whoever looks like they’re winning – yeah, you go girl, oh oh no she didn’t. Mmm hmmm.

  • 198 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Oct 12, 2012 at 5:22 PM

    Since its been a while since the last blog meeting, I would like to call to order a few points.

    1. Can people stop referring to posts as numbers (eg at #23)
    Us folk with smartphones then have to go back through and count and if there’s more than 20 posts I don’t have enough fingers and toes to do that.
    2. In the last article Kets said “I am special”
    Lets just leave it at that.
    3. The lack of Wonga related discussion the last few days has been appalling, lets get some talk going. ;)
    4. WONGAVISION.

    I will put this on the agenda for next blog meeting.

  • 199 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Oct 12, 2012 at 5:26 PM

    Can I declare the blog dead yet?

  • 200 Nufc-83 // Oct 12, 2012 at 5:31 PM

    Wow that article is crazy wwycd. Surely he could sue for harrasment?

  • 201 beefman13 // Oct 12, 2012 at 5:43 PM

    Solano, im for good not evil ha ha, dont forget im a SOV to your N P.

    i only kick off when someone has a pop!

    and with my new found calmness it will be controlled and very respectful?

  • 202 Thump // Oct 12, 2012 at 5:47 PM

    Nufc-83 (176)
    lol Mactoon dont get me started on that hoax again.

    You truly are a despicable waste of matter.

  • 203 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 12, 2012 at 5:49 PM

    Conaldo
    @ point 1. YES! I hate that stupid fecking smartphones its ok until it gets busy and you keep having to hit the load more comments button!!!!

  • 204 Jail for Ashley // Oct 12, 2012 at 5:51 PM

    So I’ve just read Dastardlys interview and what I can read in to that is that unless he’s using mind tricks we wont be getting a purple unless we sell a purple,I’m assuming a purple is valued at over a certain price so Douglas must have been a shade to near,I guess we can definitely rule out getting any golds at true value while Mashley is here.Oh and I wonder how Perch and Willo feel now after reading that their employers don’t even class them as purple.

  • 205 toonarmydownsouth // Oct 12, 2012 at 5:53 PM

    Conaldo
    @ point 1. YES! I hate that stupid fcuking smartphones its ok until it gets busy and you keep having to hit the load more comments button!!!!

  • 206 solano // Oct 12, 2012 at 5:55 PM

    JFA…a very astute observation….await the hysterical reaction!
    “It’s all smoke and mirrors”…blah, blah….
    The only smoke and mirrors going on is that the dark side is really the enlightened side!

  • 207 WWYCD // Oct 12, 2012 at 5:59 PM

    bollance
    I dont see a reason for the fella to make it up tbh

  • 208 Dannyo // Oct 12, 2012 at 6:03 PM

    @Jail
    On Willo and Perch, i think they’re having an adventuorus moment in their careers, and both, atleast Perch, knows what he has and doesn’t, just like Raylor, they both seem realistic on their roles in the squad.

    On the DL interview, it looks like £5-6 mill and above is classed as “purple price” for players.
    Obviously the prices for Douglas and Debuchy was quoted at that in the start, but the price went up as negotioans went on. They’re both still at their respective clubs, so there has to be something in that tbh.

    A different angle to think about is that our purplea will be replaced, obviously Simmo is one, so it’s not a bad thing :)
    But, if we keep getting the Biggies, Vuckics, Goods etc, etc, we might be looking at 16-18 purplea in 4-5 years time.
    And still have good young players coming up behind them.

    I admit, i didn’t think that particular interview was very uplifting.
    But atleast the man is talking more and more, gotta count for something.

    Also, could be mindgames :P

  • 209 Transfer Sage // Oct 12, 2012 at 6:04 PM

    Jail

    I think we can all realise that we won’t be signing any expensive, top players for a while.

    I don’t think many clubs can compete with man utd, Chelsea and man city spending 24+ on like hazard, van persie, yaya toure etc.

    Even arsenal sold before they bought with fabregas, nasri, rvp, clichy, adebeyor, all leaving recently for good money.

    What I don’t want us to do is miss out on a player who falls within our transfer fee and wage range but is 29/30. Players like that when combined with the younger lads we bring it would help.

    Look at arsenal, a player like arteta was a bit of a shock signing but he is a good player with a lot of experience. A player like that is valuable to the squad in terms of helping the less experienced players through a game.

    We have colo as an experienced cb then Taylor. The rest are either very young or have little top flight experience.

    I think the best signing we could make is a good, solid cb who is 28-30 who can improve the team or compete for a place and allow the younger lads more time to develop and gain experience from.

  • 210 Toonboy_84 // Oct 12, 2012 at 6:09 PM

    Wwycd

    Cheers for the link. Great read. Very interesting.

  • 211 Jail for Ashley // Oct 12, 2012 at 6:09 PM

    Some good points there Danyo and Transfer,it is worrying though that he is(Dastardly) telling us all that Perch and Willo are good enough back up when its clearly obvious that they are not,Willo and Collo/STaylor ok Perch the same but together I don’t think they instill any confidence in the team as results have proven.

  • 212 jesperfuglsang // Oct 12, 2012 at 6:11 PM

    Did I miss the blog meeting?

    …a heads up next time Wizard would be nice ;-) lol

  • 213 Thump // Oct 12, 2012 at 6:14 PM

    Just read that Duncan Jenkin’s link that WWYCD posted… bloody hell.

  • 214 beefman13 // Oct 12, 2012 at 6:16 PM

    A week befor cisse was signed we were told no new signings to come in that particular window.

    reverse psychology, so we dont get our hopes up.

    i reckon two good players will come in and they have been identified already.

    as always time will tell.

  • 215 Dannyo // Oct 12, 2012 at 6:21 PM

    @Jail
    The problem with CBs is that Collo is the only organizer of them, he’s the intelligence of the back 4.
    We need another of that sort, and he needs to be a goalthreat on set pieces to boot.
    Willo is horrible on his head, he may win allot of headers, but his sense of direction is as good as my wifes’.
    DL praised their performance, he didn’t call them purple, but he praised them. And that’s sufficient enough in my mind.
    If Willo went and we got a better CB in and that was that, i would be content with it.
    Atleast the new player would(hopefully) perform better. Providing options and not necessities.

  • 216 GeordieTwo // Oct 12, 2012 at 6:24 PM

    As for this purple business, of course it makes some financial sense but as for competing for a place in the top 4 and Europe it seems unlikely to work. It means very modest football ambition indeed. Stay near the middle of the pack and collect all that nice TV revenue sounds like the idea to me. Very like Ashley and his pet Llambias. To get a true worldwide following and much bigger revenues will take a lot more ambition than that I’m afraid.

  • 217 GeordieTwo // Oct 12, 2012 at 6:26 PM

    I don’t believe we have 11 players we are paying purple wages to. Our purples are: Colo, Cabaye, Tiote, Krul, Ba, Cisse, Ben Arfa, and possibly Jonas. We then have several players 1 notch (and perhaps 15 to 20K per week) down from that. These would include: Santon, Anita, Marveaux, Shola, Obertan and Harper. Xisco I place in the special idiot category with less than a year left. Then we have some younger players and journeymen 2 notches down including Gosling, Vuckic, Fergie, Bigi, the other idiot Ranger, Raylor, Willo, Sammy, Perch, and Amalfitano. The total wage cost for these 25 might be 750K to 800K per week which is 39M to 40M pounds per year. Then we have all other salaries including management, staff and trainees. The total should be under 50M pounds with income above 84M pounds this season (probably at least 90M) and much higher next season. It seems to me the basic idea we have 11 purples (with no wage amounts actually mentioned) is too vague to be useful (purposely no doubt). How can you compare players like Simpson to Collo and say they are both purple? Just another bit of nonsense from Llambias.

  • 218 solano // Oct 12, 2012 at 6:32 PM

    Beef…I actually think we may well have arrivals in January….but as in lots of things in life, timing is everything. And come january, this season’s ship may well have sailed.
    I’m reminded of Del’s wise words a couple of years ago, which were actually taken as a straight up/bona fide bit of truth….”January is the worst time to do business”
    It’s not really smoke and mirrors to hide a cunning masterplan to achieve footballing success….it’s blowing smoke up gullible fans’ arses when all you’re after is making money.

  • 219 GeordieTwo // Oct 12, 2012 at 6:35 PM

    Spot on Dannyo. I have been commenting on Willo’s inability to head properly for a while now. It is hopeless bringing up into the box for corners and set pieces as he is clueless once the ball comes to him and then he is out of position for counter attacks. If we have to sell purple to get purple we are in big trouble because several of our purples won’t bring in purple money. That would include Ba with his clause, Jonas (just not good enough), and probably Steve Taylor (injury prone already). This scheme will not work if the aim is to compete for honours at the highest level as Llambias has claimed.

  • 220 GeordieTwo // Oct 12, 2012 at 6:40 PM

    Essentially Llambias is telling us what we already know, that we don’t have and will not have in the future a squad with depth. Yet he claims to want to compete for honours at the highest level. Does he mean compete for but never win? That would be my guess.

  • 221 Dannyo // Oct 12, 2012 at 6:46 PM

    @GerodieTwo
    Well, cant agree with u entirely here, as some of the purples, like those u’ve mentioned, have great young players coming up behind them.
    That is our safety net nowadays.
    As an example.
    When Collo retires u have Curtis Good and Remie Streete stepping up.
    When Gutti retires, u have Sammy and Fergy coming up for him.
    If Ba leaves, theres hopefully £7 mill for a good young striker and Campbell being ever closer.
    Etc, etc.
    It’s good long term planning. Also, imagine the money we can get for Tiote and Cabaye, surely this money are set aside for replacement for other purples who we may lose for pennies.

  • 222 Mister Tuff // Oct 12, 2012 at 6:54 PM

    It seems to me that the important question is will Ashley give Dastardly the green light to purchase a purple, but with the proviso that the wonga offered is at a level that we do not go into the red but remain in the black. If Ashley does not we may end up in the brown stuff, if he does we may get some silver.

  • 223 bollance // Oct 12, 2012 at 6:57 PM

    Shola’s birthday today

    Against all the odds he is still playing for nufc!

    Forgetting man utd game he is in form. Not sure he could dislodge the dembas but worth 30mins in the derby, especially of we get a penalty.

    But Shola has never scored a penalty away from home and never missed one too as all his 10/10 have been scored at home.

    http://www.nufc.com

  • 224 GeordieTwo // Oct 12, 2012 at 7:00 PM

    Dannyo we know very little about how good some of our young players will become. Will Good or Streete actually end up to have the skill of a Collo? I have a little more confidences in Fergie but he looks a bit frail and injury prone to me (out injured again now apparently). None of the young players are proven purples as Collo is. To compete at the top will always require some buying of purples as well as trying to develop some. What Llambias is saying is that we will actually try to compete somewhere above tenth but definitely not top 4 ambition as far as I can see.

  • 225 solano // Oct 12, 2012 at 7:00 PM

    Bollance @ 222….here, here!

  • 226 nufc786 // Oct 12, 2012 at 7:01 PM

    http://www.cottagersconfidential.com/2012/10/12/3493038/fulham-swansea-newcastle-chase-vvv-venlo-winger?

  • 227 Dannyo // Oct 12, 2012 at 7:08 PM

    @GeordieTwo
    That’s true, we don’t know how far they will go yet, but according to many reports and some sightings the once mentioned are on a good way to become proper first teamers.
    It’s all about spotting that potential in players and helping them on.
    We got top 5 last year, replace Simmo and replace players that maybe aren’t really good enough for a top 5 club, like Willo, Perch and the usual suspects over time.
    To sustain that push u gotta plan long term, u do that with young players and improve the squad as u go along.
    I think we’ve all seen that u don’t need to pay even £6 mill for a player who could walk into a top 4 club.

  • 228 beefman13 // Oct 12, 2012 at 7:08 PM

    Solano, the more we are succesful the more revenue comes in better for everyone.

    we have progressed every season since relegation.

    if you are still in touch at the start of january there are around 51 points up for grabs.

    i think we will still be around the strike zone come end of december.
    the big push after xmas and anything is possible, maybe a couple of players added as well.

    maybe on the injury front it will slow down for us.

    and then snowball the last half of the season.

    i genuinly feel good things happening at the toon, im not just saying it beacuse i am S O V.

  • 229 solano // Oct 12, 2012 at 7:19 PM

    Beef….so much much better trying to sound reasoned and knowledgeable than being ignorant and hard as nails, isn’t it?

  • 230 archaeomag // Oct 12, 2012 at 7:24 PM

    @Beefman
    Are you confident we will qualify for European Football next season?

  • 231 beefman13 // Oct 12, 2012 at 7:25 PM

    We have defied all expectation since we got relegated.

    skated the coca cola, great first season when most said we would get relegated and incredible last season all against the fans the pundits and everyone else`s expectation.

    hanson shearer lawrenson etc etc said you have to spend massive to get near the champs league or you cannot do it.

    again we proved them wrong, if you can identify genuine talent at great prices and players who have the clauses in their contracts who are class then you will have a very good chance to maintain your standing in the prem.

    when we get stronger and stronger, i believe we will, it will give us more clout as well money wise, lets not forget we are paying straight cash for players and not installments

    we have found a formula that works and what is to stop us improving, our scouting network is now second to none, i see no reason why we cant kick on, everyone at the club are confident from players right the way through, great spirit and desire and will to win and you can do anything. we have that.

    I believe we have the momentum to push forward again.

  • 232 beefman13 // Oct 12, 2012 at 7:28 PM

    archae, i think the feeling in all areas of the club is that we can qualify for europe, i will go along with that.

  • 233 Kebabacus // Oct 12, 2012 at 7:28 PM

    Bollance

    I read that Ameobi article on nufc.com. Interesting. If you work out his goals per 90 mins ratio it is roughly 1 goal every 3 games.

  • 234 WWYCD // Oct 12, 2012 at 7:28 PM

    Ur welcome lads its rare I bring anything of interest to the table but I found that a good read…makes me imagine Dekka hunting down Colin though which brings a smile

  • 235 solano // Oct 12, 2012 at 7:33 PM

    What we haven’t got is any real form or momentum at the mo but there have been little signs in the last couple of games that things might just click if we have our ‘purple players’ available…..another defeat of the germ carrying Mackems could provide the spark to fire our engines onto full throttle, as it did last year. Hurrah!

  • 236 GeordieTwo // Oct 12, 2012 at 7:36 PM

    I hope you’re right Dannyo. I definitely don’t think we’ll be getting anywhere near as many bargains now as other teams are on to us. We saw it in the summer. As soon as we showed interest the price went up. You can’t expect to make a silk purse with a sow’s ear and usually that is all Llambias is offering for top players. We should be able to develop a couple of decent players but that last step to the Prem is where most usually fail. Again top 4 will always require more spending than mid-table mediocrity. We want top 4 for no real investment. Not going to happen. I hope you’re happy with finishing around 8th because that’s what we’re going to see for as long as this owner is around (he’ll fill that purse of his at the same time though).

  • 237 archaeomag // Oct 12, 2012 at 7:42 PM

    Beeefman – I respect your optomism. . .
    I think if we get in Europe AP deserves to get manger of the century; we are playing more games, with a squad which while not weaker, is not deep enough to cope with injuries in defence or in the strikers;
    By any standards, I think we were lucky with injuries last season, and played a very stable line up.
    I tend to see European football as a distraction at this stage – it was not planned for, I’m thinking of Stoke as an example of a team held back by Euro-footy. We could eend up with less prize money this season than last – which is not part of the plan.

  • 238 beefman13 // Oct 12, 2012 at 7:42 PM

    Geordie, with respect we finished 5th with this owner last season, the investment was not exactly massive was it, look how much liverpool spent and we finished above chelsea who spent a trillion quid!

  • 239 Dannyo // Oct 12, 2012 at 7:42 PM

    @solano
    Aye, there are signa that things are clicking into gear, i have to say, i thought we dominated Man U for most part of the game, aside for maybe 20-30 minutes of it. Plot those in where u wish :)
    4-3-3 is the way to go for me, but i want Ba up their along Fergy/Marveux and HBA.
    Cisse still not confident.

  • 240 Dannyo // Oct 12, 2012 at 7:46 PM

    @GeordieTwo
    No, i wont be happy with consistant top 8 finishes, ofc not.
    There is one major card yet to be played tho, and thats the FFP rules.
    Only profit of what comes in can be allowed to go back out.
    We’re already there, and of the teams already there, i dare say we’re best equipped of those.
    I’m upbeat, and i do think CL will be in our grasp sooner rather than later.
    Altho i have reserved my guss on that this season, cause our manager, staff and general experience on how to tackle Europe is new.

  • 241 beefman13 // Oct 12, 2012 at 7:50 PM

    archae, i see europe as a positive, if we can keep progressing it lifts everything up and it will push the players and staff forward again.

    we missed saylor for two thirds of the season and that was massive, tiote for a quarter as well cabaye was out quite a bit

    it was more than remarkable what we achieved last season.

    i reckon we have loads more class than stoke and will finish above them even with a europe campaign

    no disrespect to them but they have mid table written all over them.

    they are going for your owen types and charlie adam, our network of scouting in france and holland is very strong, wor graham is the business.

  • 242 Nufc-83 // Oct 12, 2012 at 7:53 PM

    Lol ffp rules won’t have any impact whatsoever teams will find loopholes as so they can still pay silly money for example etihad will pay city 150 mill for sponsorship

  • 243 bollance // Oct 12, 2012 at 8:00 PM

    Kebabacus

    Thanks for working that out. 1 in 3 is not bad especilly when you consider the teritory his good hold up play enhances.

    But i believe the strikers in the team need to score 1 in 2 at worst. That is their main role in the team?

    Now a player who can do both is an asset. The jury is still out on AC’s scoring ability as he didnt net too often for liverpool.

    Maybe that is the reason Drogba was so good for Chelsea, he did both, eventually.

    So we need to find the new Drogba with a budget of £9m tops who will play with Cisse and bring out the best in him. Not a tough task then?

    Why not to play with Ba? Because i think he will be moved on when someone meets the ‘buy out claus’ (our valuation – this time leaked by Pards).

    Any suggestions? Doumbia? But he lack physical presence at only 1.74m tall. plus above our big gamble transfer funds of £9m.

    Add in pace. Is there any player in the prem who fits the bill?

  • 244 Carryingcoals // Oct 12, 2012 at 8:06 PM

    Hello all, haven’t caught up on posts but just signed on to share this:

    Llambais hashinted we won’t be getting a CB in January. I wrote something for these guys a week ago and just saw the story on their site –

    http://www.nufcfans.co.uk/derek-llambias-transfers/

    Apologies if this is already old news.

  • 245 archaeomag // Oct 12, 2012 at 8:07 PM

    At the moment our problem is a lack of supply
    - balls in the box – Amiobi is an alternative route, – hold ups and flicks ons as a way of getting the ball + a striker near the opposition goal.

  • 246 Carryingcoals // Oct 12, 2012 at 8:20 PM

    I’ve also just read Kets’ post from the last thread and I think its his most ridiculous to date! Wow.

  • 247 jawballsaswallwell // Oct 12, 2012 at 8:32 PM

    Derek,. If we have any aspirations of challenging for the top 4 this season, we will of course need better luck with injuries and find something like our best form and also sign a center back who is better than Stevie Taylor, who can slot straight in to the side and encourage Tayls to be the top 4 standard center back he isn’t quite yet, but can be. That would give us three top center center backs and Willo as solid cover and Perch in a real pinch with the likelihood of using a Perch and Willo center back pairing being very remote. As it should be.

  • 248 MagpiesFlyHigh // Oct 12, 2012 at 8:32 PM

    Kets is the Jimmy Saville of this blog, that’s how special he really is.

  • 249 beefman13 // Oct 12, 2012 at 8:33 PM

    magpies, now then now then!!!!

  • 250 rainrix // Oct 12, 2012 at 8:34 PM

    I personally hope san marino win this match :) A true underdog story

  • 251 rainrix // Oct 12, 2012 at 8:36 PM

    Oh damn i jinxed it! Marino have been breached :(

  • 252 jawballsaswallwell // Oct 12, 2012 at 8:44 PM

    Cleverley puts in the cross, Carrick hits the bar, Rooney the post, Wellbeck wins the pen, Rooney scores,. Is Giggs playing? They’re all from Man U, FFS. That club is haunting me!

  • 253 solano // Oct 12, 2012 at 8:50 PM

    Carrying@243…I’m reminded of a quote….but can’t quite remember who said it…..maybe someone can help?
    “Mike Ashley knows nothing of football and Derek Llambias knows even less than him!”

  • 254 MagpiesFlyHigh // Oct 12, 2012 at 8:57 PM

    jaws

    Giggs is Welsh !!!!

  • 255 jawballsaswallwell // Oct 12, 2012 at 9:07 PM

    Yeah, I know, it was a feebly written. I’ll try again. Is Giggs playing, FFS?

  • 256 Jail for Ashley // Oct 12, 2012 at 9:08 PM

    A bit off topic but I’m watching the Italy vs Sweden game because that’s all thats on here that I can understand,and looking at the crowd you’d think they were playing Azerbaijan in a friendly on a feezing February Monday night,when you see the crowds we get at Wembley and such it makes you wonder how a team with what looks like so little national interest always seem to do so well.

  • 257 MagpiesFlyHigh // Oct 12, 2012 at 9:09 PM

    Is Giggs too old…discuss

  • 258 archaeomag // Oct 12, 2012 at 9:13 PM

    Too old for What?

  • 259 jawballsaswallwell // Oct 12, 2012 at 9:16 PM

    Too old to be carousing with tarts and floozies at 39 and married with kids I suppose, still quite a handy player to bring off the bench though.

  • 260 Highlander // Oct 12, 2012 at 9:18 PM

    Anyone got a stream for Wales – Scotland? Stuck to the radio. Scotland still hanging on to 1-0 and hopefully 3 points.

  • 261 Novocastrian66 // Oct 12, 2012 at 9:24 PM

    This England game is shocking. I think England have slumped to a new low. I reckon Gateshead would rip San Marino to bits.

  • 262 archaeomag // Oct 12, 2012 at 9:25 PM

    Giggs [& Scholes] on the bench tells its own story about how to run a football club.

  • 263 archaeomag // Oct 12, 2012 at 9:28 PM

    @novo
    Miserable display – I think they should bring on that big bloke from West Ham . . andy something, just for some slap stick

  • 264 archaeomag // Oct 12, 2012 at 9:32 PM

    ‘king hell -They scored two goals since I typed that . .

  • 265 archaeomag // Oct 12, 2012 at 9:33 PM

    & now AC has come on . . .

  • 266 jawballsaswallwell // Oct 12, 2012 at 9:37 PM

    Giggs is lean, not a trace of excess weight on him, so lean in fact that he looked like an auld alkie as he kitted off to come off the bench at St James’.

  • 267 archaeomag // Oct 12, 2012 at 9:41 PM

    . .. it’s the Yoga

  • 268 MagpiesFlyHigh // Oct 12, 2012 at 9:58 PM

    or the tantric sex

  • 269 MagpiesFlyHigh // Oct 12, 2012 at 9:59 PM

    Well done Wales (Bale +)

  • 270 jawballsaswallwell // Oct 12, 2012 at 10:00 PM

    as in all the rutting he doubtless does after class, the sneaky root rat! You gotta love him!

  • 271 jawballsaswallwell // Oct 12, 2012 at 10:11 PM

    Giggs and Bale, the two greatest players from the British Isles in most recent successive generations?

  • 272 MUTINYbyLEMONS // Oct 12, 2012 at 10:51 PM

    There was once a boy who was told to be a SUPERSTAR. Everything he did he did wrong. He was a child blessed with something none of us can imagine or deal with but yet he had hope and he remained optimistic. But then one Wednesday, his luck changed and he learnt to learn. Now that he could learn he tried to learn everything he could. After learning everything he could, he passed out from too much information in his brain. That boy still lies there at the top of the hill where he passed out decades on. That boy is called ‘Bastard’.

  • 273 MagpiesFlyHigh // Oct 12, 2012 at 10:52 PM

    Mutiny

    You on what Kets is on ?

  • 274 MUTINYbyLEMONS // Oct 12, 2012 at 10:56 PM

    True story mate.

  • 275 MagpiesFlyHigh // Oct 12, 2012 at 11:02 PM

    bit of a bastard then

  • 276 bollance // Oct 12, 2012 at 11:08 PM

    It is a bit quiet on here tonight.

    Just read DL comments about purple players. We have 10 1st team purples plus Anita. So I think that suggests Simo is not a purple as he is paid peanuts. So does that mean Anita is Simo’s replacement?

    As stated by other bloggers we won’t buy a purple unless we sell one. Ok, brace yourself for January. But the good news would be that we replace that player with a purple.

    That would mean we are no actively looking to recruit, only if we sell. Does that give us a stronger bargaining position? Yes because we are only selling at the right price and if we have a replacement lined up.

    But with a squad of 33, that is the plan, we will eventually be promoting from within.

    Part of being a fan is the excitement of new players. The turnover of players is something we bought into, literally with Hall and Sheppard. But on the other hand it is exciting to see players come through.

    So we really need to start finding these squad players. Players like Abeid, Bigi and amilfitano who will come in for next to nothing and provide cover with some going on to become purples with time.

    Are we happy with this? Supermac say yes we should be because the big names cost our club millions and a food reason why we are in debt.

    Will this plan work? Working so far? This season will be a good test. It is pards’s toughest season because of the expectation and added euro games. Pards’s role is simply to get wins. How is he doing so far, ok. Not an easy task because of the size of the squad and the demands of the prem.

    What can we expect by the end of the season? The extra euro games will bring on the fringe players who can stay fit. That should mean we will have a stronger squad this time next year. Purple player value will be determined by our position this year in the league. Players need to prove consistency.

    Where will we finish? Top half certainly but Europe is a big ask with the emergence of teams like everton who are doing what we did last season. But it would be fantastic if pards can prove me and most of the bloggers on here wrong!! Starting next Sunday!

  • 277 archaeomag // Oct 12, 2012 at 11:09 PM

    MUTINYbyLEMONS
    you’re weirding me out man . . .

  • 278 MagpiesFlyHigh // Oct 12, 2012 at 11:10 PM

    good post B

  • 279 jawballsaswallwell // Oct 13, 2012 at 12:26 AM

    Is that explaination by DL of the clubs player recruitment and teams development strategy something that they have had in place for a while or something they’ve just made up to measure to put the current state of the club in a more positive light? It sounds great, it sounds believeable, but is it genuine?

  • 280 FatmanJoe // Oct 13, 2012 at 1:18 AM

    Just got back from wembley (I’m aware I’m posting this to an empty blog by the way) and it was pretty dire. Quite laughable at times – England trying to play like arsenal.

    Baines was excellent throughout. A truly gifted player. Better than bale in my opinion. Cleverley was active and passed well but that’s about it. Lennon has no left foot and has plenty of chances to plant one. Jags is shite! Twice was beaten for pace by their forwards. Kyle walker was TERRIBLE! How is he considered the future of England? Woeful!

    Still. 5-0.

  • 281 Kc-Toon // Oct 13, 2012 at 1:38 AM

    How was the atmosphere? International football has always bored me, Although i feel Hodgson is going the right way about selections now.
    Im glad hes putting faith in baines and leaving that twat cole on the bench. Baines, in my opinion, single handedly won everton the game vs the toon last month
    I thought rooney and chamberlain were linking up well, but there wasnt any end product. Walker wasted so many chances to put a decent ball into the box, welbeck seemed to be shit at holding the ball up, or stringing a couple of passes together !

  • 282 Graeme // Oct 13, 2012 at 1:43 AM

    Jawballs – Giggsy has been shagging his Brothers Mrs for the past 15 years or so – is it any wonder he’s fit?? Having said that, anyone shagging his brothers wife has to be a complete Arsehole of the first order.

    You just don’t do it!!!

  • 283 FatmanJoe // Oct 13, 2012 at 1:51 AM

    Crowd was a bit restless. There wasn’t much to get excited about. Most people were a bit pissed off about rooney’s huge celebration to scoring a pen against such a shit team! Got better as it went on but the atmosphere was MUCH better against ukraine and there was about 20000 less of us.

    Not much to get excited about with england at the mo. Hope Carroll becomes a bigger part so I can feel some connection. Im sure most of us feel similar.

    Crowds in London are quiet in general actually. Haven’t found a ground atmosphere like the north yet and I’ve been down here for 5 years.

  • 284 FatmanJoe // Oct 13, 2012 at 2:07 AM

    Graeme

    Agreed. Obscene behaviour

    Are you the same Graeme who has been posting on here for years?

  • 285 RonVanDam // Oct 13, 2012 at 2:11 AM

    A tribute to Shola before the next 5under1and derby

    http://www.nufcfans.co.uk/shola-ameobi/?

  • 286 jawballsaswallwell // Oct 13, 2012 at 4:07 AM

    Really! He’s been shagging his brothers wife, is this common knowledge. I honestly didn’t know that. I agree, you just don’t do that, particularly if she looks anything like my brothers missus.

  • 287 JP...from The Rock // Oct 13, 2012 at 11:05 AM

    If the award was to go to one of our lads then I would think it would go to Demba Ba. He was on fire last season and this season he’s picked up where he left off, a great player in form.

    HWTL




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