Tiote Must Improve His Discipline – It’s Not Good Enough


Most people haven’t really blamed Cheick Tiote for Newcastle failing to win the game yesterday, but the truth is that it was the Ivorian’s indiscipline that cost Newcastle 2 points, and when it happened I have to say I was very annoyed (to say the least) at the Ivory Coast International.

Cheick Tiote – oh no – straight red card

In his first season on Tyneside Cheick picked up 15 yellow cards and one red card, and Alan Pardew had to leave him out of the last few games because another yellow card and he would have been banned for another two games.

In his second season he picked up 11 yellow cards and this season he has picked up 3 yellow cards and one red card, so in his 59 appearances he has 29 yellow cards and two red cards.

That’s slightly more than one card every two games for Newcastle – and it’s not good enough.

So it’s not as if Cheick hasn’t been in trouble before with referees, and in the Senegal vs Ivory Coast game earlier this month – he should have been sent off for hitting Papiss Cisse in the first half, but the referee seemed to miss it.

And it seemed that Tiote had orders to control himself yesterday, because in the first 25 minutes he was running behind an advancing Sunderland player a couple of times, and didn’t put in a tackle from behind, and at least the TV commentator mentioned this.

But then came that tackle on Steven Fletcher and a straight red card after only 25 minutes when everything had been going so well, and we were in trouble, and it was only the courage and fortitude of the Newcastle players from then on, that we were able to get a point of the game.

But with eleven men on the field surely we would have coasted through the game, after we dominated the first 25 minutes and Sunderland were little better in that second half, although they had more of the ball simply because Newcastle tried to contain them.

Tiote must improve his self-control and discipline of the pitch, otherwise he will become too much of a liability to the team.

What do you think?

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295 comments so far

  • Super Magpie

    Oct 22, 2012 at 4:51 PM

    Comment #1

    Wreker

    I don’t think anyone ever had respect for Kets.
    I agree that was right for Willo to foul their player yesterday. It was the free kick that we had before that caused it. I don’t get why we overloaded their box with 5 minutes left and 10 men. Should’ve given it to someone who would run into the corner and waste time IMO.

    Tiote cost us the win. I have no complaints about the red. He’s got away with worse things in the past and it came back to haunt him today. But I feel Larsson’s boot on Shola was just as bad and they should’ve also been down to 10.

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  • Super Magpie

    Oct 22, 2012 at 4:53 PM

    Comment #2

    I said yesterday that Tiote had been building this up for weeks and he would get sent off at some point.
    I hope Shola went crazy yesterday with Tiote after being subbed. I hope the rest of the team did too.

    I still think we would’ve won 3-0 had he stayed on the pitch.

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  • Super Magpie

    Oct 22, 2012 at 4:56 PM

    Comment #3

    Looks like I’ve killed the blog for the first time.

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  • wreker16

    Oct 22, 2012 at 4:57 PM

    Comment #4

    Super magpie

    I agree, it was tiote, rash tackle no complaints. We lost control after that. However, I don’t think this means we should sell him. Whilst I don’t think he is the best in the league (p.s I’m not getting into that “debate” of last night) however he is a class act and I don’t think he is easy to replace. Although I probably would take anything above £20 million for him

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  • Toon_Jock

    Oct 22, 2012 at 5:00 PM

    Comment #5

    Wow, Watch out everyone Ed’s ANGRY!!! 🙂

    Ed, in all fairness… I was screaming at the telly too – DOH!!

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  • Super Magpie

    Oct 22, 2012 at 5:00 PM

    Comment #6

    Wreker

    Yeah, I agree with most of that. I’d probably take £15m or above. He can never seem to get a consistent run of games without getting injured or suspended. We miss him when doesn’t play though.

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  • Grafton83

    Oct 22, 2012 at 5:07 PM

    Comment #7

    The ref could have given him another chance and produced a yellow, I thought he (the ref) was poor, if Tiotes foul was a red then surley Shola getting studs in the chest was at least a yellow.

    Either way Tiote could have been easily been sent off a number of times in the past, is it correct he is only one yellow away from another ban anyway. Not that it matters a great deal but we’ll never pick up a European place in the fair play leagues with him on the field.

    To echo what everyone else has said, sort it out Tiote, take it out on the dog, the mrs or the kids just don’t bring that over the top aggression on to the pitch.

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  • pbNcl

    Oct 22, 2012 at 5:12 PM

    Comment #8

    Wasn’t tiote’s fault at all. He was riding a blatant foul and was off balance. The ref couldn’t wait to send him off

    Plus, shola was kicked in the FACE jus moments before and there wasn’t even a card

    Mackem ref

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  • wreker16

    Oct 22, 2012 at 5:13 PM

    Comment #9

    Super magpie

    Yep I think he is often missed, whilst I think Anita is good, I’m not sure that holding midfielder is his best position, he doesn’t have the physical presence of perch or tiote (even if he does go a bit far). He looks good as a full back though

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  • pbNcl

    Oct 22, 2012 at 5:15 PM

    Comment #10

    Simpson was outstanding yesterday. Doesn’t get the recognition he deserves. Well not in virtual world anyway…

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  • wreker16

    Oct 22, 2012 at 5:19 PM

    Comment #11

    Larson should have been sent off also, but there is no defending of tiotes red, the ref was crap but I don’t think that was a wrong decision

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  • wreker16

    Oct 22, 2012 at 5:21 PM

    Comment #12

    Pbncl

    I agree Simpson was class, just as good as Santon

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Oct 22, 2012 at 5:23 PM

    Comment #13

    PbNcl
    Simmo got plenty of acclaim for his performance as did the entire team, except tiote deserved red or not he let the team and the fans down yesterday that card has been on the cards since he came on against norwich and has been acting like a thug for the last 3 or 4 games his played with wild kate challenges and bordering on pathetic theatrics when a free kick is given against him just look at the booking he picked up vs manure

    Of course the scum targeted him they knew he’d blow a fuse as much as we did a few on here called the red before the game started he needs to get his head out the clouds and start playing football again or he faces a real risk of loosing his place

    As for the shola thing yeah should of been a yellow but never seen anyone sent off when one player stoops in for a header and one has his foot high to clear

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  • pbNcl

    Oct 22, 2012 at 5:25 PM

    Comment #14

    Fair comments regarding tiote I must say

    I jus can’t see no wrong in the lad, hahaha

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  • 89Norcal

    Oct 22, 2012 at 5:28 PM

    Comment #15

    I’m going to play Tiote’s advocate here, it was a harsh red and he looked to mistime the bounce because he was being held back.

    If you watch the replays, him and whoever the Sunderland player was, met at the ball and Tiote never took his eye off it.

    Seen far worse calls get yellows or nothing at all. Reputation send off in my opinion.

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  • toonLYF

    Oct 22, 2012 at 5:31 PM

    Comment #16

    Don’t buy this Anita not being a Central midfielder thing, he would be wasted at full-back IMO. It’s fine playing him there to ease him in and get him familiar with the physical and mental mindset of the EPL, but the lad is too good on the ball and too aware not to have a future in central midfield.

    Sure alot of you will eat your words when he starts being the terrier Pardew obviously knows he can be.

    Personally i couldn’t think of anything more frustrating for the opposition that a midfield 3 of Cabaye – Tiote – Anita

    -Cabaye the pass master and Mr. Composed.
    -Tiote the wrecking ball breaking up play and beginning attacks
    -Anita biting at the ankles so to speak and using his pace to get to loose balls – can pass – can dribble – can shoot.

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  • Jamiemac

    Oct 22, 2012 at 5:32 PM

    Comment #17

    Can anyone tell me more about the Tiote incident with Cisse?

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Oct 22, 2012 at 5:36 PM

    Comment #18

    ToonLYF
    Dont think he’ll play any where other than CM pretty sure he seeked assurances before signing about his role think its just that were doing the same as with other signings and slowly bringing him in

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Oct 22, 2012 at 5:37 PM

    Comment #19

    @ LYF

    Exactly bud, and those 3 in the middle would be one of the best midfields in the Premier League. Not to mention Ba, Ben Arfa & Cisse up top, a little defensive tweaking and we have a very good side capable of breaking into the Champions League

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  • toonLYF

    Oct 22, 2012 at 5:38 PM

    Comment #20

    Jamiemac – it simply didn’t exist, Cheick had the ball and a Senegal player was kicking his ankles and dragging him back, so Tiote swang his arm in his direction; then Papiss who was Senegal’s captain simply came over spoke to Tiote and that was it.

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  • GeordieDan

    Oct 22, 2012 at 5:39 PM

    Comment #21

    I have to agree Ed.

    Even though Cheick is one of my favourite players.

    His discipline record combined with all the other games he’s missed and will miss through playing for the Ivory Coast AND in addition to his recent injury record (which has been very unfortunate).

    We hardly ever see the guy now. 🙁

    He’s like a cartoon superhero character and terrifies the opposing midfield players but what good is that ability if we only get 25 minutes of play out of him and maybe only 1 in 2 or maybe 3 games.

    Really hope he can find a way to channel his anger and keep the fire in his belly at the same time.

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  • 89Norcal

    Oct 22, 2012 at 5:40 PM

    Comment #22

    toonLYF, wonder if Pards willl revert to 4-3-3 if he’s saving cisse for Europa league now.

    Still if I were Cisse, I would be wanting some EPL time as well.

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  • toonLYF

    Oct 22, 2012 at 5:44 PM

    Comment #23

    tads // BPC – agreed.

    Pardew and the staff will have signed him knowing he’s probably going to need time to adjust, aswell as building a bigger physical presence, as cliche as it sounds.

    He’s a CM and has done some terrific things playing there for Ajax, if he was going to play full-back regularly, as some have suggested, he wouldn’t be happy (and rightly so) and we would’ve heard/noticed something by now. Obviously has Pardew’s reassurance as you say tads. A great deal for just over £6m, without doubt.

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  • Big Pappa Cissé

    Oct 22, 2012 at 5:46 PM

    Comment #24

    For me it is only a matter of time before Cisse starts scoring for fun again. When he joined us in January he had already played half a season in Germany with a dozen goals to his name and was sharp as a tack. He could have had at least 5 in the league now but has just been unlucky. Thats why I have him down for a hattrick against Brugge 🙂

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  • donegalmag

    Oct 22, 2012 at 5:46 PM

    Comment #25

    Thought Perch was very good yesterday..did a lot of thankless work and put in a few good challenges..

    Think he should be first choice to cover Tiote’s ban..

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  • Super Magpie

    Oct 22, 2012 at 5:46 PM

    Comment #26

    89norcal

    Cisse was dropped because he’s bang out of form and Shola knows the derbies better than Cisse. He’ll get plenty of playing time in the PL. I just hope it isn’t in a 4-4-2 because he is totally non-existant.

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  • 89Norcal

    Oct 22, 2012 at 5:48 PM

    Comment #27

    @SuperMagpie, Yeah I agree. Felt bad for Shola, looked like he made a straight shot down the tunnel after his sub.

    @donegalmag, That’s what I said! Perch put in a great effort

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  • FatmanJoe

    Oct 22, 2012 at 5:51 PM

    Comment #28

    I’m not suggesting this is true or false, just a thought that crossed my mind – did we initially allow tiote, encourage him even, to play too aggressively.

    All the cheers when ge sticks the boot in, all the jokes online talking about how hard he is. He must be a bit confused now he’s getting criticised for something that he was getting celebrated for previously.

    Just some thoughts to be thunked.

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  • GeordieDan

    Oct 22, 2012 at 5:52 PM

    Comment #29

    At least Brugge will be cacking themselves at the thought of playing against Cisse, Ameobi and Tiote on Thrusday. 😀

    And its the 2nd game I’m going to in a week! It’ll be a bit more chilled than that Mackem game at least.

    That was a crazy away day experience. 😀

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  • wreker16

    Oct 22, 2012 at 5:53 PM

    Comment #30

    Toon lyf

    I agree that a 3 man midfield of tiote Anita and cabaye would be great, I was trying (and failing) to imply that I don’t think that he is a good replacement for tiote though.

    I dont think though, that in 4-4-2 that Pardew persists with playing he and cabaye would work without tiotes breaking up of the play in there

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  • Super Magpie

    Oct 22, 2012 at 5:53 PM

    Comment #31

    89norcal

    Yeah,I hope he had words with Tiote.
    The Mackem slayer will have his revenge in the return fixture. 🙂

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  • toonLYF

    Oct 22, 2012 at 5:56 PM

    Comment #32

    89Norcal – Pardew’s favoured system/future plan is more of a mystery than what is under a Jews hat!

    Surely it’s only a matter of time before our number 9 is back in the frame and has his spot nailed down.

    Seems we’re best when we have a fairly compact 3 man midfield, and i have no doubt Pardew knows this, and hopefully he can try and mastermind a way to have this midfield, whilst allowing Ba and Cisse to play to their full potential, and keeping HBA in the side.

    4-3-1-2 allows this on paper, but we all know it’s not as simple as putting the players in the positions, it’s about everything in between. Link up play is the crucial factor. We lack spontaneity; in the sense that when our original plan of attack has failed, we have nothing but a long ball or playing backwards to fall back on.

    Not a big problem imo and it’s half the players jobs to work these things out, and half simply down to time, becoming familiar with, and working out how your team mates play under a vast array of circumstances, in effect allowing more spontaneous roaming when in need, knowing you will be covered as there’s that certain understanding there.

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  • nimo

    Oct 22, 2012 at 5:58 PM

    Comment #33

    anita needs time to settle looked really poor so far but can tell he has potential

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  • toonarmydownsouth

    Oct 22, 2012 at 5:59 PM

    Comment #34

    89
    Reckon he was gunning for tiote like

    Donegalmag
    Perchinio was fantastic yesterday the amount that lad has come on is unbelievable and fair play to him for taking his chances and fair play to pards for giving him those oppurtunities

    LYF
    When anita settles i have no doubt he’s gonna be a fantastic asset to the club

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  • toonLYF

    Oct 22, 2012 at 6:02 PM

    Comment #35

    wreker

    I don’t think he was brought in as a replacement or potential replacement for Cheick, and you’re spot on, at the moment, i don’t think Anita-Cabaye in a 4-4-2 would work out.

    Good job we have the Brazilian player of the year in our ranks – Perchinho

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  • FatmanJoe

    Oct 22, 2012 at 6:02 PM

    Comment #36

    Anita was asked to do a lot when he first arrived. Play in a new league and adapt to a new country, play in different positions with new players and all with a pregnant wife in a different country.

    He hasn’t looked very poor at all but he can and will improve. A Dutch mate says cabaye meets tiote. Sounds super aces.

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  • 89Norcal

    Oct 22, 2012 at 6:02 PM

    Comment #37

    @SuperMagpie, can’t wait for the next one in Newcastle! Would love to see another 5 goal hammering.

    @GeordieDan, I’d happily freeze my ass off to watch NUFC in Bruges. Hopefully I can fly across the pond next year.

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  • Super Magpie

    Oct 22, 2012 at 6:02 PM

    Comment #38

    FatmanJoe

    Whether or not it is true or not I’ve never really bought in to the hard man stuff about Tiote. Especially after his great play acting against the scum last year. Atleast it got Sessegnon sent off. 😀

    He needs to learn to control his aggression. If he hit his own team mate last week it shows that he can’t control his anger on the pitch. He needs to calm down because he cost us the win yesterday. It might be good for him to miss a few games tbh. He also needs to be extra careful on Thursday because European refs are a p**stake.

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  • 89Norcal

    Oct 22, 2012 at 6:05 PM

    Comment #39

    @toonLYF, I’ve wondered about a 4-3-1-2 as well. I would think with Ben Arfa having direct lines to Ba and Cisse the goals would be falling from the sky!

    @toonarmy, Sure he had some words for him, I know it’s a hugely important fixture for Shola

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  • FatmanJoe

    Oct 22, 2012 at 6:10 PM

    Comment #40

    Shola looked well f…ked off being subbed.

    I wouldn’t want to be cheik waiting in the dressing room with shola charging down towards me!

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