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• 1 Jail for Ashley // Nov 10, 2012 at 11:14 AM

  Gritting mistook as a hippopotamus at flamingo land and doused with mud is too good for Ashley.

• 2 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Nov 10, 2012 at 11:51 AM

  Jail – he likes that, it’s like a free spa treatment.

  Team for tommorow
  Krul
  Santon Willo Saylor fergie
  Ben arfa Anita cabaye Jonas
  Ba cisse

  Replace ba with shola if still not fit, bring both ameobis on during the match, and give obertan a run in the last 15.

  Jonas and fergie will double up, so west hams physicality won’t be a problem. Santon and Ben arfa will tear them apart down the right, and give Anita a chance to push on from Thursday.

• 3 Toon1978 // Nov 10, 2012 at 11:52 AM

  I really think A.Pardew is taking us places. He is an underestimated manager and some people still think that he ain’t good enough which is laughable. We do need to start winning games but we ain’t exactly getting beat week in week out either. Only Chelsea and Man Utd have beaten us so far. We are a very hard team to beat. If someone had of said to me 3 years ago that we would have HBA and Santon playing for us in the near future i would have laughed out loud . We have some top quality players to take us to top 8. If we strengthen again in January with the likes of Sissoko, Douglas, Carroll and dare i say it Debuchy and we lose no one we will be in a strong position to finish in a CL place but that is easier said then done.

• 4 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Nov 10, 2012 at 12:07 PM

  1978- well said, Pardew can and is taking us places, if someone told you during the championship season that we were going to be nearly in the knockout stages of the Europa league 3 years later, you would have laughed at them.

  Getting into champions league places is easier said than done though, and the key factor for the teams in it, (city, utd, Chelsea, even arsenal and spurs) is money. You need a lot of money to get champions league normally. It is not impossible without money, but it’s 10x more difficult.

• 5 Tsunki // Nov 10, 2012 at 1:21 PM

  Toon1978 – no you dare NOT say Debuchy.

  But I agree with everything you said. Its a bit weird here on match days and especially those awful times when we get beat by teams we should be clogging every day of the week, i.e. MAN UNITED (my sides…..) there are an inordinate amount of unrealistic posters shooting for the moon decrying all that is terrible in the state of Newcastle. A check on the real world shows we are a feared team nobody fancies their chances against (said Man u and chelski got bitten by us last year too and will again) and we are also trying out a very successful outfit of youngsters in european footy. How could progress be better? I’m afraid fans who need to see us turn arund to a top 3 CL side in 3 years need to do some serious head-shaking. Its right to be critical when things go badly, and tactics sometimes deserve ridicule even, but when a poster attaches phrases like ‘We will never progress with Pardew’, ‘Selling club’ ‘Championship quality’ ‘lack of investment’ and the like I just start switching off and my laptop lid begins to close.

• 6 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 10, 2012 at 1:30 PM

  There is no need to kid ourselves; we need to put in better performances and shift things around if we want to start winning – no one is going to hand it to us on a silver platter!

  …we cannot count on lady luck to safe us or others mesh up! It is up to us to change things.

  NUFC man up

• 7 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 10, 2012 at 1:34 PM

  Tsunki…we have them all on here not just the unrealistic posters, but also those with red tinted glases!

  …don’t know what is worst (both bug me at times)

• 8 toonLYF // Nov 10, 2012 at 1:38 PM

  Santon seems a top top lad. The only player who slowly walks round the corners of SJP applauding at the end of games. Always gets a roar from the Gallowgate.

  Turning out to be a very good fullback too, his defensive work has improved alot since joining us, and his attacking work has always been a threat. I sense his first goal is not too far away, and can see it being a bit of a rocket

• 9 Tsunki // Nov 10, 2012 at 1:39 PM

  Jesper – do you not feel that maybe too much is expected of this team too soon? People always seem to see shortfalls, lately Jonas has become favourite go-to letdown player in a succession of those deemed to be adding to our ‘woes’, but is it all really fair or objective?

  I think the best way to look at the team is at the beginning of a long-ish project that forms slowly but surely out of a plan that filters down from the hard business of the boardroom to the coaching and talent-nurturing of the playing staff. I increasingly see transfer-window purchases as stop gaps and helping hands, but the real business is in making our own players tailored to the way the coaching staff want to shape a team for the future. It’s all at the beginning really, I think better years are ahead but some slight disappointments are inevitable along the way, it takes time to stop the rot that has plagued the club for decades, and it takes a broken egg or two to make an omelette, or indeed any other scrambled-egg containing dish. Even mayonnaise. I’m hungry.

• 10 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 10, 2012 at 1:42 PM

  I would like to add that Arsenal doesn’t spand that much money – they are actually making money and them are CL contenters every season.

  …even Spurs should be in our reach spending-wise in the long run.

  Money should not be an excuse for us. I am happy where we are and for now I just want stability, but we should be wary of complacency and we should also set new goals

  What should our goal be now that HBA and Santon is playing for us and stability seems to be within our grasp?

• 11 Tsunki // Nov 10, 2012 at 1:42 PM

  ToonLyf – yes I noticed that he seems to really be at home here. Colo always lets the crowd know he appreciates them, Timmy before ( waving his arms up and down lol) and after gets a good shout too. Actually now you mention that, I seem to have this image of Simmo always giving the crowd a nod, strange for someone who seems to be on his way?

• 12 roshan MAGPIE // Nov 10, 2012 at 1:48 PM

  I don’t think our players will leave if we don’t qualify for Europe next season cause we don’t play them in Europe do we

• 13 toonLYF // Nov 10, 2012 at 1:49 PM

  Simmo likes to do the Stevie Taylor duty when the stamp collector isn’t playing. Tim gets his own separate applause as he runs into the Gallowgate goal pre kick-off – usually followed by shouts of “TIMMMEHH” (south park reference)

• 14 Tsunki // Nov 10, 2012 at 1:49 PM

  Jesper – I get the feeling that many posters feel Mike should dip his hand into his very deep pockets to splash on top players, but wouldn’t doing that defeat the purpose of a long-term construction plan? The sharp end of buyiing big for me isnt that it creates an elite group of CL teams that cant be penetrated, it’s more the proliferation of a whole swathe of middling foreign talent that stifles the development of teams own academies. OK, football is migrational by definition of the transfer arrangement, but it cant continue to be ‘outsourcing’ for playing talent with the highest bidder winning everything, it should be that each club develops players that appreciate the club , its followers and its traditions, and have the right work ethic rather than just being cash journeymen. Its been discussed before, but football is a fine balance between the entertainent industry and pure money-making business, if the balance goes either way it all goes wrong.

• 15 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 10, 2012 at 1:50 PM

  Tsunki…I think I am with you more or less all the way it is a progress and it all takes time.

  …some you can never please – some just don’t want to be pleased, but we also have to be carefull we don’t find excuses for everything.

  You know I expect certain things from people around me and I let them know if they let me down. You need to have expectations and goals, but you also need to be able to step back and reflect on it all…and sometimes come to the conclusion that your idea was that the right one

  That’s what I have learned in life and being in here regularly I can tell you alot of people have problems doing or accepting this

• 16 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 10, 2012 at 1:53 PM

  *should have said was not the right one

• 17 Tsunki // Nov 10, 2012 at 1:54 PM

  Just thought I’d give ol’ Catchy a shout of derision for decrying Pards because we didn’t bust a gut and go all out with guns blazing to win the ‘important’ league cup. Bah.

• 18 Tsunki // Nov 10, 2012 at 1:58 PM

  Jesper yes I agree, I always aintain that criticism can be constructive even if you don’t fully agree with it, there’s always a shred of something true and mind-changing you take along with you, thats how opinions are formed. It’s the intransigent ones with an obvious agenda that stew me. Always the same thing, never adapting their view, but never proving it either. Anyway I am getting all philosophical when what I really need is a sandwich and some crisps. It was all the egg talk I think. MMmmmmm…..egggggg….aaaaaahaaaahhh….

• 19 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 10, 2012 at 2:07 PM

  Tsunki..crisps you say I miss those salt and vinegar ones you have. I loved them when I lived in London.

  …now you can only find them here on the Pubs

  There a few on here that always say the same, they are never happy and they never interact or wise up

  What can you do about it really? I just leave them alone lol

• 20 catchy in norway // Nov 10, 2012 at 2:12 PM

  Toon1978 //

  if you believe he is underestimated , well your entiteld to think to think that,
  me i think he is very over rated, for these reasons

  1, tactics,, he dont seem to have any, now i hear pl saying he dont have the personnel to do do it, we have a small squad, this is not right,, we have a small squad, but it is packed with very good players,
  krul
  colo taylor santon
  cabaye, tiote, anita, HBA
  cisse,BA
  these are top players, and would get into a lot ov teams in the top half,
  but still pardews main game plan is long ball

  2. style of play,, we can not hold onto the ball,

  3. his reluctance to pick or drop some players
  this season, jonas has been the worst player we have out there and we have options, ferg or sammy for left wing, anita or bigi in MF

  4, subs, everything about his subs seems wrong, last week he made 3 subs, all left wingers, first obertan came on, then sammy, then ferg,, now i dont know about any of you,, but i think that is just strange, firstly its all the same position, 2nd, for left wing, surley ferg should have been first choice, being a natural left footer, then sammy, he just has no fear and runs at them, then obertan,, he hides,

  5, not strong enough with the chairman/owner,, we needed defenders not midfielders in the summer, now we can all prob agree, debuchy, he would be amazing at our club, he defends and attacks , even at 7 million he would be a bargin, anita cost 6.5, and is not a bad player, but we didnt need him, why not use that 6.5 on debuchy??,,

  for me, the sooner he is gone the better, his brand of football is worse than SA,JFK,

  i also hate when he comes out and tries to build up the players,,, i mean young ferg,, 2 weeks ago, pardew was saying he could peel oranges with that left foot, , it was so sweet, the kid has shown us more in a few sub aperances than obertan has shown us full stop,, obertan is nearly always first sub on the pitch,,,

• 21 Tsunki // Nov 10, 2012 at 2:14 PM

  Yeah what can you do? Anyway all this eating talk I have had no lunch so I am off out now to descend on a place of food. Later all.

• 22 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 10, 2012 at 2:24 PM

  See you later Tsunki

  …go get your egg sandwich lol

• 23 APBWA // Nov 10, 2012 at 2:29 PM

  I’d bet on Fergie to start LB tomorrow. Apparently Simpson is out and I was suprised to see him left out of the team in midweek.

  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Krul
  ~~~Santon Williamson Taylor Fergie
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Jonas
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~Anita Cabaye
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~Ben Arfa
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~Cisse Ba
  Would be chuffed if this is the team for sunday, it has every player in their best position and width to the team with two attacking full backs that are able to cross. We should be looking to dominate the game really

• 24 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 10, 2012 at 2:29 PM

  ‘Asprilla claims Newcastle talks’

  …did anyone pick up on this? Here is the link:

  http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/article/165/8239086/asprilla-claims-newcastle-talks?

• 25 euanpolo // Nov 10, 2012 at 2:31 PM

  Team for West Ham:

  Krul
  Simpson – Williamson – S.Taylor – Santon
  Anita – Gutierrez
  Ben Arfa – Cabaye – Ferguson
  Cisse

  Subs: Harper, Tavernier, Bigirimana, Marveaux, Obertan, Ba, Sh. Ameobi

  I don’t think we should play Ba unless we really need him so he can fully recover from his injury.

• 26 APBWA // Nov 10, 2012 at 2:35 PM

  No sammy even on the bench? I’d say he is the player most likely to break into the 11 except fergie

• 27 Dannyo // Nov 10, 2012 at 2:40 PM

  @Jesper
  It’s VERY belated news, i read that on nufcfans.com a week ago.
  Dunno why the media decided to pick up on it now.

• 28 tequilamag // Nov 10, 2012 at 2:44 PM

  Jesper @ 6 I think you are doing the players a disservice if you think we have relied on luck or other teams to mess up.
  Lucky by definition is an unusual occurrence, that cannot be the case over the 17 games we have played this season.
  Whilst performances have not been as good as we would have liked is it not within the bounds of possibility that great team spirit and willingness to fight for the entire game rather than rolling over when things have not been going well is a more likely explanation for the fact we are virtually qualified from EL and still in a healthy position in the league. The PL is the most competitive team in Europe , there are no easy games. Some people on here just seem to think if only Pardew picked the players and formations they favour we would top four. Sorry mate but it`s just not that simple.

• 29 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 10, 2012 at 2:51 PM

  Dannyo…sometimes the media circus just copy each other…sometimes just a bit late lol

  …anyways it was news to me and I didn’t know if it had been posted here (don’t think Ed has mentioned it?)

  Is there any news on the horizon?

• 30 kt97toonarmy // Nov 10, 2012 at 2:55 PM

  euonpolo ur an idiot if you think free scoring demba ba deserves to stay on the bench

• 31 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Nov 10, 2012 at 2:55 PM

  Haha I just read that story about tino online Jesper, was just about to do a wizard news about it. Oh well.

• 32 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 10, 2012 at 2:56 PM

  Is anyone going to be watching some PL this afternoon?

  ….I am taking in Southampton vs. Swansea Like the way Swansea play and I like the philosophy of Laudrup (my kind of football)

• 33 kt97toonarmy // Nov 10, 2012 at 2:59 PM

  i hope everton beat sunderland like be quite nice nite for me watching them get hammered lol

• 34 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 10, 2012 at 2:59 PM

  Wizard…you can do a new feed on it, just add something new to it lol

  …whst’s the news on Twitter?

• 35 beddersmag // Nov 10, 2012 at 2:59 PM

  Catchy

  Bit negative there mate. His tactics cant be too bad he has won plenty of games. Granted subs were strange other night but seen the subs work well as much as they have bombed. Hes not reluctant to drop likes of jonas- its just he rates him because he is disciplined and doesnt lose possession often. He has made more changes in personnel than any manager we have had and still managed to keep picking up points against good sides. Too soft with the chairman- Do you have much success telling your boss how to spend his money? Your even having a go for building young players confidence up. What would you have him do?

  Sorry mate but the grass is not always greener. We are a VERY solid unit for the first time since i started whatching the club in the 90s. What is amazing is his man management skills and way he has contributed to and fostered an amazing spirit in the camp. I sat through the allardyce regime and to say his brand of winning football is worse is just crazy imo. Did you not enjoy last year then? Hands up like a lot of fans i didnt want him in the first place but he gets 9.5/10 from me so far, and manager of the season backs it up.

• 36 toonLYF // Nov 10, 2012 at 2:59 PM

  jesper – i can hardly resist watching Everton put the mackems to the slaughter

• 37 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 10, 2012 at 2:59 PM

  *news

• 38 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 10, 2012 at 3:00 PM

  LYF….that’s a good choice as well

  …maybe I can do split screens lol

• 39 kt97toonarmy // Nov 10, 2012 at 3:01 PM

  everyones kicked of are sunderland 1-0 down yet

• 40 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Nov 10, 2012 at 3:01 PM

  Jesper – ill try and make something up to add to it. That’s what most newspapers do
  I’ve not read the link you posted, but apparently if he comes, he’s gonna bring some kids from his academy in Colombia, hopefully not against there will
  (That wasn’t made up)

  There’s not much news on twitter, just the continuing debate about wether or not people will boo Nolan.

• 41 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 10, 2012 at 3:03 PM

  Wizard…surely no one would do that!

  …now lets hope Tino is not part of some sort of human trafficking lol

• 42 kt97toonarmy // Nov 10, 2012 at 3:03 PM

  anyone think we should buy Carroll back?

• 43 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 10, 2012 at 3:04 PM

  Why is Danny Graham not playing for Swansea these days?

• 44 kt97toonarmy // Nov 10, 2012 at 3:05 PM

  tino looks at celtic on wedensday and said i did that

• 45 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 10, 2012 at 3:12 PM

  Kt97…short answer would be no!

• 46 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Nov 10, 2012 at 3:13 PM

  There is actually no news today, so unfortunately there will be no wizard news yet. I know, I’m sorry guys I know how much it means to you.
  The only things I can find is that the Tino story might have some legs and is starting to look like it may be true.

• 47 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Nov 10, 2012 at 3:16 PM

  I’m really struggling to decide what Ian Dowie looks like. It’s certainly not a human.

• 48 Ruddy Marveaux-lous // Nov 10, 2012 at 3:20 PM

  I’ve never encountered people quite so proud, yet quite so useless, as you lot.

• 49 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 10, 2012 at 3:23 PM

  Beardo…you really come off so unlikable so effortless

• 50 toonarmydownsouth // Nov 10, 2012 at 3:24 PM

  Conaldo
  Ian dowie looks like sloth from the goonies
  Also mick Mccarthy looks like the train from Goldeneye!

• 51 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 10, 2012 at 3:26 PM

  Wizard…try Sloth from the movie The Goonies lol

• 52 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 10, 2012 at 3:29 PM

  Okay TADS…this is just freaky you know lol

• 53 Ian Toon // Nov 10, 2012 at 3:29 PM

  Jesper- Nothing to do with him being a fellow countryman then?
  Hope you had a good birthday. Your present is wrapped up trust me.
  Tsunki- some good points on our fans. I sense pre games that much of the expressed negativity and unrealistic mutterings is just the outward expression of anxiety that pretty much all fans feel as they dwell on the game. Many come to instinctive decisions then build up an infrastructure of reasoning to justify it. I sense that your more logical and act on the conclusion of logical thought. Either way it’s hard to understand too much negativity. I used to think it largely stemmed from the longer time fans who had waited so long to win something but
  the relatively short term fans appear as bad. As for criticism of Pardew aside from him getting around the first 20 minutes of the Man Utd game wrong he’s done well given injuries/ suspensions.

• 54 toonarmydownsouth // Nov 10, 2012 at 3:30 PM

  Jesper
  He’s a spitting image tbf!!

• 55 stuart no9 // Nov 10, 2012 at 3:33 PM

  sometimes the truth has to be said. the fact that some people dont like to hear it and switch off is testament that those same people actually realise that things are not all going as planned at the cathedral. IMO AP has peaked. CH got sacked as the owner thought he had taken us as far as he could.Enter AP he was appointed to take us to the next level, AP has worked hard , done extremly well last season, got us into europe – cant argue with that, however he did have an element of luck last season- fair play you need that as well, but we havnt kicked on from last season, we have took a backward step. We are coming to the middle of november and i cant think of one game where we have looked anywhere near decent for 90 mins. it is not that we have been great but had some bad luck in front of goal, in them situations you wait for your luck to change, and eventually start winning games, we have been poor , lets be honest about that. IMO i cant see where our next 90 min performance is coming from , it hasnt been there all season, what is going to change it.? Big sam must be relishing coming here tomorow.,he knows how to play us – most managers know how to play us, if i was a manager bringing a team here i would just tell them to get at us from the first whistle. attack , attack , attack . liverpool were the latest team told to rough us up from the off- ok we got a point but apart from a spell in the first half , it was relentless,AP has to combat that tomorrow, he also has to take care of nolan and carroll- they will know exactly how to ruffle our feathers. Maybe give AP another season next season and take it from there, but his and the teams performances have to inprove or we will be looking for a new manager to take us to that next level once again.

• 56 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 10, 2012 at 3:38 PM

  Ian…Thanks mate; I am looking forward to unwrapping it tomorrow

  …nationallity doesn’t matter to me, but I guess I do know alot about him being a dane and all that but when it comes to football I think he gets it

  Now Pardew is a likable person but for me he doesn’t have the football brain of Laudrup well that is usual for most from defenders turning managers (now that was an unfair generalisation)

• 57 toonLYF // Nov 10, 2012 at 3:39 PM

  I wish Everton played like this when we were at Goodison – we’d have beat them with ease.

• 58 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 10, 2012 at 3:46 PM

  LYF…well Swansea is not playing much better (they look a bit like us actually) lol

• 59 Ian Toon // Nov 10, 2012 at 3:53 PM

  Jesper- good game to watch given that we play both of them shortly.
  Stuart- you lost me with your third word. Truth is not susceptible to change. One fans truth is just what he believes to be true. Mostly it’s
  merely an opinion. and some opinions are worth more than others.

• 60 Ian Toon // Nov 10, 2012 at 4:32 PM

  Jesper- heading out . Enjoy. Pardew was a midfielder but certainly not in Laudrup’s class . Good players don’t always make good managers.

• 61 catchy in norway // Nov 10, 2012 at 4:43 PM

  toonLYF //

  we had the ref on our side at everton lol we got a very lucky point

  stuartno9,,
  well said,, you put it way better than me,,

  beddersmag

  no i think i stand behind everything i said, he is a guy who is supposed to take us on to the next level,, we are at the next level right now,, we are in europe, and he carnt cope,, CH was doing a great job, we played to our strengths with him, ,
  with pardew, we have a stronger squad with better players, and we play worse football, how is that possible???

  my comment about building the kids up ,, sorry i got caught out, and had to go before i could finish my point,,

  he builds them up and leaves them hanging,, abied vuckic, last year, now add ferg to that pot,,,, all three are much better than obertan, footballing wise, maybe you have a point,, you can be a shit footballer or not as good as others in the squad, as long as you carry out his plan, your in

• 62 Big Pappa Cissé // Nov 10, 2012 at 4:43 PM

  Haha, 2-1 to Everton. Afroman and Jelavic

• 63 Magpies-till-d3ath // Nov 10, 2012 at 4:49 PM

  go on everton!!!! Haha scum!

• 64 MacToon // Nov 10, 2012 at 4:53 PM

  Really starting to feel sorry for the mackems…. NOT

  Infact

  

• 65 toonLYF // Nov 10, 2012 at 4:56 PM

  i kind of feel sorry for Sunderland to be honest (hahaha)

• 66 tequilamag // Nov 10, 2012 at 5:06 PM

  Catchy. Pardew did take us to another level, we went from a mid table team to finishing 5th and qualifying for Europe. And the last time I looked at the EL table for our group we were top. Not bad for a man who can`t cope. As for the kids they have had a lot of playing time this season and will be all the better for it.

• 67 kevymartins // Nov 10, 2012 at 5:06 PM

  Alright lads

  Have a bad feeling about tomorrow carroll and nolan be we dieing to get at us and maiga will feel he has something to prove against us …aww man i duno

• 68 Baro // Nov 10, 2012 at 5:28 PM

  For tomorrow…

  ——————————Krul——————————-

  Simmo——-Willo———————Tayls——Santon

  ——————-Anita————Perch———————

  —————————Cabaye——————————

  Ben Arfa———————————————Sammy

  ————————Ba/Cisse——————————–

  or

  ——————————Krul—————————–

  Simmo——-Willo——————-Tayls—–Santon

  ——————-Anita————Cabaye—————–

  Sammy—————-Ba————————–Benny

  —————————–Cisse—————————–

• 69 Baro // Nov 10, 2012 at 5:31 PM

  I am going with a 3-1 victory…

  Cabaye 12 min
  Ben Arfa 33 min
  Sammy 83 min

• 70 Graeme // Nov 10, 2012 at 5:32 PM

  I’m beginning to seriously warm to Martin O’neil – he is developing all the attributes of Agent Bruce while the team suffers and flounders.

  With a little more experience he will soon have them built up into genuine relegation challengers, yet so early in his tenure!! Quite remarkable really!!

• 71 felling mag // Nov 10, 2012 at 5:38 PM

  wor youngin thinks this is the team to get us 3pts the morra.
  krul
  simpson
  williamson
  taylor
  santon
  jonas
  cabaye
  anita
  ben arfa
  ba
  cisse
  me thinks if thats the team Pardews got to play a 4312 because Cisse on the left is awaste of time. Give benny a free role to do his magic, Hard game which i think were gona need 3 goals to win coz Carrol or Nolan mabe both will score. 3-2 toon win set us up nicely for Swansea.

• 72 bills-son // Nov 10, 2012 at 5:43 PM

  Stuart09, you say that after 10 epl games this season AP hasn’t taken us to the next level? I could give a load of reasons why that is a ridiculous statement, here are a few; its only 10 games, AP doesn’t control the transfer budget, we’ve had 4 out of our 5 first team defenders out in some games, he’s had to juggle a small squad to cope with Europa games.

  We haven’t played great this season granted, but for fans like you so keep saying where we finished last season and our points total this season is mostly down to luck is ridiculous. There is a great team spirit, work ethic and never say die spirit in the team and AP as the manager has to be given credit for that.

  The simple fact is the ‘next level’ from last season is the CL and unless we spend some big bucks it aint going to happen. That isn’t AP’s fault.

• 73 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Nov 10, 2012 at 5:54 PM

  People picking your teams for tommorow –
  Jonas is the captain for the game, he will be playing. So include him.

• 74 stuart no9 // Nov 10, 2012 at 5:55 PM

  ian toon@59 sometimes the truth (as i perceive it) has to be said, – now you can read the rest of it!

• 75 toonarmydownsouth // Nov 10, 2012 at 5:56 PM

  Wizard
  You know it as well he should be

• 76 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Nov 10, 2012 at 5:57 PM

  Oops, cut my self off there.

  Include him in the team. Although a lot of people aren’t happy with him these days, but in my opinion be still offers a lot to the team, and is undoubtably being asked to play defensively in an effort to balance the team.

  Also, he is a role model and a leader in the team, so makes a good vice captain.

• 77 catchy in norway // Nov 10, 2012 at 6:02 PM

  bills-son

  we play the worst football in the prem, if your happy with that then great,

  take BA out of our team and we are a very poor team, under the tactics of AP

  will you answer this

  ok your not the manager, but if you were, would jonas be in your starting 11 right now??

  would your first sub always be obertan, yes you like him,, but he rarely has an impact,

  would you find a place in your team for cisse if you where not playing 442

  these are vaild questions, and should be easy to answer

• 78 catchy in norway // Nov 10, 2012 at 6:04 PM

  plus bills-son

  its not just 10 games this season,, for me it is also last season, where i think pardew bottled it,,

  man u almost won the league with there worst team ever, and in my opinion, our team was a better team last year

• 79 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 10, 2012 at 6:09 PM

  Ian…enjoy yourself mate. True, good players don’t always make great managers (guess that applies to mediocre players as well; not saying AP is mediocre by the way)

  …I always thought AP was a defender at Palace I guess you learn something new everyday.

  For anyone interested Swansea didn’t really play well visiting Soton. If we man up I think they have some issues in there 4-2-3-1 lineup – it is a bit uneven at times

• 80 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 10, 2012 at 6:15 PM

  *their

• 81 stuart no9 // Nov 10, 2012 at 6:16 PM

  bills -how can the next level from last season be the CL. surely the next level had to be the EL. or are we too good for that? now i would think the next level now would be the CL? great team spirit, never say die attitude, work ethic.,down to AP ?????? i think CH may have something to say about that,! you say we have had 4 or 5 first teamers out.ok – when they came back, did it make any difference , we still played exactly the same .against liverpool last week-full team on? any difference ? no . we couldnt live with them . i am just saying what my eyes see . ok when are we going to take a game by the scruff of the neck and dominate ? what has got to happen ?

• 82 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Nov 10, 2012 at 6:18 PM

  Catchy – ill answer you

  Jonas would be in my team yes. As a defensive/ centre mid, full back, or on the wing provided he had a very attacking fullback behind him (ie. fergie)

  Pardews first sub is not always obertan. But depending on the situation, if the game is in it’s closing stages, and you need some fresh, fast legs to run at defenders, break their positioning and line, and allow space for strikers then I think obertan is a good sub. Different scenarios call for different players.

  And why wouldn’t I find a place for cisse, he cost 10million pound, he is a proven excellent goal scorer that is just struggling to hit form. It is common sense to play both your strikers when they are two of the best strikers in the league.

  Man U team may be their worst for years, but it’s still a top of the table side. It’s only bad by Man U standards.

  I think you just need something to complain about. We are not going to play Barcelona-esque football every week, in the premier league which team plays fantastic football week in week out? No one. It’s not possible. The premiere league is too physical, too fast, too competitive.

  Pardew got us to fifth, he has us top of our Europa league group, we are like 4 points of 4th in the league or something.

  Instead of saying : we never play well Pardews crap.
  Why not say : when we get a run of good performances together we will shoot up the league.

• 83 jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew // Nov 10, 2012 at 6:18 PM

  Villa is one up against United and Everton won 2-1 against the unwashed

• 84 Baro // Nov 10, 2012 at 6:19 PM

  wow that was a cracker of a goal by weimann!!

  Whenever we face them.. I always like the style of the lad..

  only 21…. has blazing speed

• 85 stuart no9 // Nov 10, 2012 at 6:23 PM

  bills – i didnt say AP hasnt taken us to the next level , coz he did europe , however imo i think he has peaked now .

• 86 bills-son // Nov 10, 2012 at 6:24 PM

  Catchy, you think we were a better team than ManU last year? Strange.

  To answer your questions; I’m not happy with the football we are playing but that doesn’t mean, like you, that I think AP is a sh%t manager – we’ve never played a settled team yet this season; Jonas is a difficult one, he’s the type of player the team would miss more than the fans – I’ve said many times I’d play him as a CM in a 4411; no my first sub wouldn’t always be Oba (he isn”t AP’s either); no I wouldn’t play Cisse, in any formation currently, he’s off form and contributes little when he’s not scoring – I hope last season wasn’t a one off.

  Bottom line, slagging AP off and suggesting we should look for another manager is typical of short sighted fans who think that managers should be perfect, play great football and (of course) always pick their own favourite players and never play players that fan doesn’t rate.

  Fans like you would have had Moyes sacked years ago.

• 87 bills-son // Nov 10, 2012 at 6:40 PM

  Stuart09 – the big difference between this season and the start of last is that we played virtually the same team for the first twelve games. This season we’ve never had a settled side plus some first team players have had to play in the EL with different players again. That has without doubt affected the way we’ve played – any fan who thinks its just AP screwing up the tactics etc doesn’t understand the game.

  As for you saying CH should be given credit now for our team spirit is the daftest thing I’ve read on here in a while. If you think that you’ve obviously never managed people. Team spirit can disappear in a month under a manager players (or any staff) don’t like or aren’t motivated by. AP has been here for 18 months – the current spirit and work ethic in the side is 100% down to him. End of.

• 88 stuart no9 // Nov 10, 2012 at 6:42 PM

  bills – i wouldnt panic if i were you about AP. hes going nowhere . not with an 8 year contract in his sky.!

• 89 stuart no9 // Nov 10, 2012 at 6:53 PM

  bills – team spirit bla bla bla is down to AP. HE INHERITED IT! ffs it was already there , instilled in the squad, right through the dressing room. how on earth can you say that. i will not say your thoughts are ridiculous , or that they are the stupidest comments i have heard , because they are your opinions , and i respect them – even though your opinions are wrong and mine are right. mine will always be right, and yours will always be wrong. IMO.

• 90 tequilamag // Nov 10, 2012 at 7:00 PM

  Stuart you are right he did inherit a great team spirit, but that was over 18 months ago. If Pardew was such a poor manager as many suggest, then that team spirit would have been lost . Failing to give any credit to Pardew for this is nonsensical.

• 91 bills-son // Nov 10, 2012 at 7:03 PM

  Stuart09, if you were right about team spirit it follows that once instilled by one manager it stays for ever more. It doesn’t of course. Look at how Chelsea performed with the same team under AVB – he killed the team spirit and motivation. Our current team spirit is down to AP, to suggest otherwise is ridiculous.

• 92 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Nov 10, 2012 at 7:04 PM

  Guys, new thread. Move it