Pardew Joins Ferguson And Mourinho In Taking The Heat


We’ve noticed a big increase in the adverse criticism of Alan Pardew since the defeat to West Ham on Sunday – and he should have done this – and he should not play 4-4-2, and he should have brought on other subs at different times – and all that stuff – but that’s all part of the rather difficult job of being a top class football manager these days in England.

Newcastle are not doing well – therefore Alan Pardew is taking the heat

Whenever a team goes through a bad patch the first person to take the blame  is the manager, and as Graeme Souness used to say – it just takes two successive defeats and Newcastle will be in crisis mode.

But the Newcastle hierarchy have tried to stabilize the club over the last few years, and Alan Pardew and his staff will be given the leeway, as well as masses of time to get it right,  and hopefully have Newcastle in the top six on a consistent basis in the seasons ahead.

We’re sure that’s what the target is, and yes,  we haven’t done too well so far this season, but we’ve also lost some key players to injury and suspension – such as Colo, Krul and Tiote – and Papiss Cisse hasn’t looked half the player he was earlier this year.

Our view is that the tactics part of the game is way over-rated and always has been – and we tend to agree with what Brian Cough used to say – and he wasn’t too bad a manager either, winning the European Cup two seasons in a row with Nottingham Forest in 1979 and 1980.

This is what Brian thought about tactics:

“Players lose you games, not tactics. There’s so much crap talked about tactics by people who barely know how to win at dominoes.”

And Bobby Robson was much like Brian – in that his special skill was to inspire the players to play at their very best – and both managers were successful at getting the best out of the players they had available – and that’s the measure of a true coach.

We think Alan Pardew is a fine manager and of course he won the LMA Manager of the Year award and the Premier League Manager of the Year award last season –  and good managers are like good players – they don’t suddenly  go bad overnight.

Jose Mourinho and Alex Ferguson have received their fair share of criticism in their terrifically successful careers, and it’s not surprising Alan is getting some heat, after our defeat on Sunday.

Alan knows what’s needed now is to put in a fine performance against Swansea City next Saturday afternoon –  and win that game – and we can start to turn things around.

It’s simple really.

Howay The Lads!!

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32 comments so far

  • Super Magpie

    Nov 13, 2012 at 4:07 PM

    Comment #1

    Check
    I can see where you are coming from with Pardew’s reluctancy to change the system but to say he is a p*ick and clueless is too far. I don’t buy into this whole ‘ last season was a fluke, we were lucky’ etc.

    It’s down to the fact we didn’t strengthen in the summer, extra games, more injuries and suspensions and of course I will admit Pardew’s persistence of the same tactics have also had a negative effect. But to say that Pardew is clueless is way off the mark.

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Nov 13, 2012 at 4:11 PM

    Comment #2

    Ed, easy. Too many articles like this and I wont have a place on this fine blog anymore 🙂

    Anyone who has a question for me, just read this article.

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  • mattyNUFC

    Nov 13, 2012 at 4:12 PM

    Comment #3

    Ed

    no offense but, if it weren’t for these discussions, you wouldn’t have a blog

    haven’t commented for a little bit but finger wagging and talking like a wise old pops won’t change any of what’s going wrong right now. that’s up to the manager, whether it’s tactics, motivation, etc, and that you can’t deny. let’s see what he does

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  • Santon03

    Nov 13, 2012 at 4:14 PM

    Comment #4

    So… Tactic does not matter? Just need to put 11 guys on the field and hope for the best. So why manager need formation like 4-4-2, 4-3-3, 3-5-2?
    Am I the only one here seeing this team play much much worse than last year? Everytime I watched our games I never had that feeling that we were going to have a good win, most of the time I felt we were going to lose.

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  • dead man walkin

    Nov 13, 2012 at 4:15 PM

    Comment #5

    Ibiza

    It will be squeaky bum tim for Pardew in about 5 matches time, I’m not making this up, I would say as high as 80% ( no I have not counted them) at the ground are not happy with the direction Pardew is taken the club,
    This is very much Jenny dog leash part 2 , he finished 2 in his first season( jan to may) 12 the season after ,
    With very poor football , pissed most of our best players off to,
    Sold ginola for 2.5 million and bought des Hamilton for the same money in the same week,

    I’m very much in the camp of Pardew is clueless. And he has him self to blame,

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  • bills-son

    Nov 13, 2012 at 4:21 PM

    Comment #6

    If the manager is ‘clueless’ one of the first things that happens is the morale and team spirit of the players collapses. I don’t see any evidence of that.

    The single biggest problem that Pardew has had this year is that he has never played a settled team in the Prem because of injuries and suspensions. Last year we were virtually unchanged for the first twelve games with our best eleven playing.

    The time to criticise Pardew is after five or six poor games with our best eleven playing. That would be a fair criticism. Some of the nonsense after the West Ham game is ridiculous.

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  • jesperfuglsang - captain of the lemon crew

    Nov 13, 2012 at 4:21 PM

    Comment #7

    What if someone else with credentials would say ‘players doesn’t lose you games but tactics does’ would that change anything Ed 😀

    …or should we take Brian Clough’s word for it?

    If Brian is right, then Denmark or Greece should not have a change in hell in International Football (they both did win the EC though).

    Tactics is everything in modern football; lesser players can win you titles if they fit together in a symbios with their fellow teammates and the tactics 🙂

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Nov 13, 2012 at 4:22 PM

    Comment #8

    Dead man…Then I think we’ve batted this one back and forth enough without completely driving the other insane. I hope you are wrong and we shall see.

    The problem is, if you are proved right and fans really really turn on him, they still wont have been proved right. There is potential that they were right, but also that they were just impatient.

    Not saying he should be given free reign just so we can absolutely know for sure, but a club whose fans feel they are in turmoil are highly unlikely to do well.

    So, for the first time in three years, I am starting to worry about where we are going. Not because I have lost faith in the direction, but because, from your comments, the majority of fans have. That is a serious issue.

    Back to the rollercoaster then…..

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  • bettyswallocks

    Nov 13, 2012 at 4:22 PM

    Comment #9

    Check I

    I agree totally with your observations. Not all of us are happy to watch our beloved toon grind out results with the same unimaginative boring performaces.

    If Les is happy to watch this boring crap then good for him.

    Dont let him bully you into believing that scraping through gmes with no flair is ok for everyone.

    We want to be entertained.

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  • Les Grossman

    Nov 13, 2012 at 4:23 PM

    Comment #10

    Bills-son
    What has happened….
    You are 100% correct!!
    Amazing….i never thought I would see the day.

    hahahah 😉

    The voice of bloody reason on here is refreshing.

    Notice Check the toastie has gone quiet….do you think he has burnt his bread!

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  • Santon03

    Nov 13, 2012 at 4:23 PM

    Comment #11

    Any MANAGER in this world in any company in any kind of business will get the heat if he can’t perform well not just in football. That’s why good manager must be able to adapt to any situation ,find problem solutions, must be good in analyzing and not affraid of changes even have to gamble sometimes.

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  • Les Grossman

    Nov 13, 2012 at 4:25 PM

    Comment #12

    betty swallocks

    Oh dear…….not another boo hoo

    “les is bullying me”

    Betty swallocks by name bo nollocks by nature!

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  • Ibizatoon - Back by popular demand

    Nov 13, 2012 at 4:32 PM

    Comment #13

    Guys…Why is it that as we’re not angry and wound up and blaming Pardew we automatically or enjoying watching grinding out performances? Do you actually read what people are saying?

    For me, I have said I am willing to wait to see improvements and feel we need to be patient. That doesn’t mean I enjoy watching the current state of play, but I understand it.

    Look up the words enjoy and understand, things may be easier to understand then.

    Jesper….. Re: Ed’s tactics comment. I don’t think it’s meant literally. Obviously tactics play a part and in some cases a big part. But they are also not the be all and end all of football as some like to claim. They’re there for a reason and when used well, can nullify a seemingly stronger team. I think what the Cloughs quote implies really is that many are quick to jump up after defeat and blame it on this tactic or whatever, when really, the players just simply didn’t perform.

    Doesn’t apply to all games, of course, but neither does the tactics argument.

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  • Les Grossman

    Nov 13, 2012 at 4:39 PM

    Comment #14

    In the current format, we are picking up points….

    If you think we are playing sh1t get yourselves to the uncl;ean down the road who are playing some very attractive stuff at times and getting tonked everygame….

    Or you could always stay where you are, have faith that our shite patch has come early, we are still relatively unscathed, this shite patch will soon be gone and will start tonking teams again as we did almost all of last season!!

    FORM Is temporary….

    And to the numpty Check the tosser….Westham Fans, Reading Fans and Charlton Fans majority loved Pards, they loved his football ethic. Southampton fans loved him also…..some of the females a little too much 😉

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  • davis_toons

    Nov 13, 2012 at 4:40 PM

    Comment #15

    Saw a video, the other day when a blogger here posted a team of young US kid playing football. (youtube)

    They played almost like BACA the way the whole team move up and down the pitch. Attach together, defence together, any player that had the ball will have an option to pass (side ways/ forwards) , (team-mates run to create space and waiting for a pass)

    The only way to score against them was to get hold of the ball which was the most difficult part of the game.

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  • kukubean

    Nov 13, 2012 at 4:54 PM

    Comment #16

    we needed that defeat…it was coming…the performance was as bad as i rmber us beating westbrom…

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  • croftus5678

    Nov 13, 2012 at 5:14 PM

    Comment #17

    omg ^^ cabaye/arfa/fergie/ba/colo/santon i believe all these are entertainers the amount of crying anyone would think we were still in the championship nvm topping our group in europe and in mid table in the prem after not being promoted back to the prem not long ago.

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  • ballerfan2

    Nov 13, 2012 at 5:28 PM

    Comment #18

    There’s an awful lot of people with very short memories. I’m with Ed (very long in the tooth- my first game at St james v Man U, Bobby Charlton had hair and Duncan Edwards was playing). Anyway the point is, we have been through some awful times and this team (and Pardew) comes nowhere close to that bad. Be patient – or are we going down the “Robson only finished 5th – going backwards – sack him” route again. There is a current article at http://www.footballfancast.com/top-10s/the-top-ten-whiniest-sets-of-fans-in-english-football/attachment/newcastle-fans-3 where I’m afraid there is an element of truth – in fact i think we get off lightly. The Liverpool section is worth reading though – very true, ha ha.

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  • Jan Stavik

    Nov 13, 2012 at 5:33 PM

    Comment #19

    Krul – Simmo, Willo, Taylor, Santon – Arfa, Cabaye, Tiote, Jonas, Ba – Cisse.

    This team will hammer the sheeps@ggers, keep Ba out of the way and Papiss will start scoring for fun again!

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  • Jamiemac

    Nov 13, 2012 at 5:39 PM

    Comment #20

    Agree with Ed, anyone criticising Pardew this early on is crazy. With the amount of moaning on this blog I’m surprised we’re not number 1 on ‘whingiest fans’ list

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  • Charlietoon

    Nov 13, 2012 at 5:49 PM

    Comment #21

    Wow this seems like the first blog in ages Ed has written that is based on his opinion, not just regurgitating the other stories appearing, and people are slating him for it?!? MattyNUFC he is responding to what happening on his blog…which is awesome as it makes it more interactive. Better than just putting a story and a picture up every time some daft rumour starts.

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  • stuart no9

    Nov 13, 2012 at 6:06 PM

    Comment #22

    AP has the safest job in football. a better deal than any other manager on this planet, unbelievable but true. MA made a big mistake handing an 8 year deal for basically nothing.i find it a coincedence that since that massive deal, the football has got progressively worse. things are not right , there sre problems in the camp, something has changed, you dont go from playing decent stuff to pure rubbish constantly for nowt. £ 24m is what it would cost ASH to get rid of him- that wont happen no matter how poor we play.

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  • Munster Mag

    Nov 13, 2012 at 6:09 PM

    Comment #23

    Les, as if I know anything! I originally backed sam’s appointment at NUFC because in fairness his football is quite common at times in England, and I felt he would improve our woeful injuries list etc. However in my defence, I was worried from kick off. I think we were on the box – it was a home game – maybe v Villa. At KO, the ball was played back, martins ( I think ) pegged it up the pitch to the far corner. We lamped the ball, m=nowehere near him, out of play. It was a bit of an epiphany for me and I got tired of all sam’s rubbish about playing away to Reading for a draw etc ( and losing, when West Ham stuffed them 0-4 ) . I do think we lack the aggression of last year in closing down – mind you Tiote has never looked right and he’s our main man after Colo.

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  • Munster Mag

    Nov 13, 2012 at 6:11 PM

    Comment #24

    Stuart, there’s no way that contract is watertight in terms of dismissal, but we are not privvy to it anyway. I think pards is safe for now and deservedly so. Otherwise Moyes would have been dumped years ago by Everton. If I dont see changes by end of the season, thats a different matter. ( thats not hysterical Ian is it ? ) 🙂

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  • Ian Toon

    Nov 13, 2012 at 6:41 PM

    Comment #25

    Munster- yes it is. Why would you even remotely envisage the possibility of changing the manager at the end of the season. After 11 games of which there has been a lack of consistency in selection. Your not looking at a squad the size of Man City or even Arsenal. I realise that when things go wrong ( even temporarily) the manager takes the blame. At present we look like a mid table side but it’s just a snap shot of the season.

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  • chris

    Nov 13, 2012 at 7:18 PM

    Comment #26

    every one has there own opinion about pardew and how the team are playing no matter what pardew says or does its down to the players i blame the players as no matter how bad they perform week in week out they no there name is going to be on the team sheet every week theres no compersition for places get a few top players in jan and the players would pull there fingers out or been dropped

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  • stuart no9

    Nov 13, 2012 at 7:28 PM

    Comment #27

    chris@26 you blame the players. ok . here is a question for you, it is not a trick question, and has no right or wrong answer. if mourinio was to take charge of NUFC. do you think he would have us playing better football on a more consistent level.do you think he would make us a better team,?

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  • stuart no9

    Nov 13, 2012 at 7:54 PM

    Comment #28

    bills – you say team spirit collapses no sign of that yet ! what happened to the ” team spirit ” on sunday when 1-0 down 2 mins to go BA gets the ball, wide in the box looks up – not a black and whitr shirt in the box to pass to. where was the fighting spirit there? this happened all the way through the 2nd half. that had nothing to do with ” hes never had a full team to pick all season” that was purely and utterly , bad management.

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    Nov 13, 2012 at 8:21 PM

    Comment #29

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  • stuart no9

    Nov 13, 2012 at 8:41 PM

    Comment #30

    toon freak—nice one mate, all done. it looks like the dogs are running away with it mate. never mind , best of luck.

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  • YankToonFan

    Nov 13, 2012 at 9:44 PM

    Comment #31

    Tactical suggestion:

    I see our difficulties rising solely out of our lack of ability to control the game in the midfield. Hence, I suggest we go to a 3-man back, namely a 3-4-1-2:

    Krul
    Simpson Colo STaylor
    Santon Tiote Cabaye (playing a bit higher up) Ferguson
    Ben Arfa
    Ba Cisse

    Ferguson and Santon would be able to really press an opposing team’s wingers, providing the defensive cover you have to have with a 3-man back. Both players are good going forward. Cabaye can orchestrate from further back, coming up to feed Ben Arfa and the two strikers, but still is deep enough to link up with Tiote. Those three in the midfield can provide a strong presence to control the ball more, which we are missing terribly at the moment.

    My one concern would be the strikers – can the two Seengalese work together? If so, this formation gives us more of an offensive form. We will be dangerous on the wings, secure in the middle of the pitch, with our best three gaol scorers in a forward position.

    Thoughts?

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  • Macnapper

    Nov 14, 2012 at 12:42 AM

    Comment #32

    Does anyone know the win ratio when TIOTE is missing?
    Does anyone know our goals conceded when COLLO is out?
    What about when they are both out? I’m not a stat man but I guess the odds would be against a win against anyone.
    I thought we looked beatable & have lacked bite all season, the system Pardew can use seems to be dependant on who is available, the team have no rhythm this year, has the same 11 played twice? It’s very disjointed and I agree with Munster Mag, last year there was real hunger to chase the ball down and CABAYE particularly added a real bite alongside TIOTE in regaining the ball. That’s a system, Don’t let teams come to St James and dictate the game. Break it up, keep possession.

    Every game last year we harried and choked the opposition, stopped them playing and were able to break quickly with 3 up front. This year we are letting everyone play, it’s a bit mystifying as it worked so well for us last year and Barcelona work their socks off to get the ball back every game. West Ham looked good because they were given time on the ball and we were missing The Lion and the Wardrobe!!

    Ps Does Andy Carroll look a bit like he’s missing his Mum’s cooking?

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