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Mystery Cleared Up – Newcastle Young Gun Has Knee Injury

10:48 am, Wednesday, November 14th, 2012 by Dr. Ed Harrison · 77 Comments

We had noticed that 17 year-old Adam Campbell had been missing from the U-21 Reserve team squad recently, and Alan Pardew has cleared up why that’s the case – Adam sustained a knee injury a couple of weeks ago, and the North Shields lad has been ordered to rest the knee.

Adam Campbell – has picked up a knee injury

The news is that the injury is not a serious one (that’s good), but the lad needs rest so the knee can mend properly – Alan Pardew explained why Adam had been missing recently:

“Adam is injured. He hurt his knee two weeks ago.” “It is not serious, he just needs rest.”

Campbell would have been in the Newcastle squad that went to Brugge last week and got a notable 2-2 draw, after being two goals down early in the game.

And Adam is not available for loan this season either, and it seems to us that Alan Pardew thinks this lad is almost ready for prime time, and we could see him make some appearances in the first team as the season progresses.

Certainly the Newcastle manager says he’s been outstanding in training this season – but first things first, and the Newcastle medics will ensure the knee is fully healed before Adam returns to training.

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77 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Lemmingsrus // Nov 14, 2012 at 10:52 AM

    All Pardew does is offer excuses
    He can’t motivate the team, they are playing rubbish hoofball and missing out the creative midfield, he should go and let us get a new manager who can take us to the next level. Like Jol, or Pep or Sparky

  • 2 dead man walkin // Nov 14, 2012 at 10:54 AM


    you can mock these guys all you want, but they raise good and valid points,,

    every manager has a style that ppl say suits a team or area, right or wrong this is what they do,

    do we have to go back to 96 and play like keegan, or 98 under dogleash, maybe there is a point in the middle of that we as fans would settle for,
    but right now, and since he has been hear we hear he is building a team, and yet all i see is a style of football that got kenny sacked,

    his team right now

    krul,, he made him his no1
    santon his signing
    colo, he made captain
    taylor home grown
    simpson, not his and not good enough
    HBA his signing
    cabaye his signing
    tiote, CH , but good enough
    jonas, he made hi vice captain
    cisse/ba his players

    ther is not many in that firsrt that he is not his, so why do we need to wait

    will debuchy make so much difference to the way we play, 1 player???, no yes he will improve the team

    my biggest problem is pardew and his negative football,, is it so much to ask that we atlest try and score first??

  • 3 dead man walkin // Nov 14, 2012 at 10:56 AM

    sorry for reposting

    but ed is on a mission

    153 fray bentos // Nov 14, 2012 at 8:33 AM


    Haha i know, i don’t think a single one of my mates wants Pardew out yet somehow 80% of the ground do.

    Many of the doomers come out with crazy statments & contradictions like this all the time which ends up dis-crediting their main argument.

    I think many of them might be still love drunk on the keegan/Robson years

    les/ frey

    when did i say that 80% of the ground want him out??

    just so you are clear on what i said

    i copied this from that thread,
    1 dead man walkin // Nov 13, 2012 at 4:17 PM


    It will be squeaky bum tim for Pardew in about 5 matches time, I’m not making this up, I would say as high as 80% ( no I have not counted them) at the ground are not happy with the direction Pardew is taken the club,
    This is very much Jenny dog leash part 2 , he finished 2 in his first season( jan to may) 12 the season after ,
    With very poor football , pissed most of our best players off to,
    Sold ginola for 2.5 million and bought des Hamilton for the same money in the same week

    now read cearfully ,, its says most are not happy with the direction he is taken the club, ie football, nothing about sacking the guy,,

    but its guys like you 2 that twist things to make your argument sound better,, so is your argument so poor you have to make up lies???

    frey,, you make yourself look stupid

  • 4 jarnytoon // Nov 14, 2012 at 11:20 AM

    Campbell will be ace when he’s older. Very exciting prospect!

    in regards to previous post, got some january/summer transfer targets:

    Sell Cisse & get Carroll back. Cisse seems to have done a Torres & gone from Super star to super w*nk in the space of 2 months!

    We should sign:
    Ince &
    Granero (for when QPR get relegated)

  • 5 lewytoon // Nov 14, 2012 at 11:25 AM

    why dont we just get pep guardiola?

  • 6 Lemmingsrus // Nov 14, 2012 at 11:33 AM


    So he should go then and let us get a manager who can get us CL football regularly.
    You say its his team and yet they are playing rubbish hoofball. So who sets the tacttics ?

    Pardew out and let’s get another new manager

  • 7 Pushy Pardew // Nov 14, 2012 at 11:34 AM

    We overperformed last season and it was daft for Pardew to say pre season that a Champions League challenge was on. I am not sure whether the comment was made before or after we failed to sign Debuchy and Douglas. There however is no cause for the blame game
    and way over the top criticism of Pardew. For a Norwegian exile poster to arrogantly lay the blame for all that’s going wrong at the door of the manager because there is only one man in charge and to suggest that it’s not hard. i will not repeat the mitigation to the charge because i would only be banging on a thick skull. When the driving forces Coloccini and Tiote return to the side things will pick up.

  • 8 lewytoon // Nov 14, 2012 at 11:36 AM

    mike williamson and tim krul are the ones who play long ball most. when collocinis back that will stop as he wont do the long balls williamson does, and he drops back to get the ball off krul so he wont hit it long. whens tiotes back we can play 4-3-3 with him anita and cabaye in the centre and thats better for passing

  • 9 alex84 // Nov 14, 2012 at 11:39 AM

    How the hell people can say Pardew has to go is a joke,
    yes sometime he makes mistakes, what manager doesnt, wenger, fergie…even Mourinho, we have only lost 3 times this season, we have had injuries and suspensions to deal with.
    tactics are not everything, a manager is about getting the best out his players, and how many players have come out and said Pardew is a great man manager…loads. Patience is required, it will click were only 6points off 4th, there is a few people on here who need to relax!

  • 10 alex84 // Nov 14, 2012 at 11:41 AM

    Pushy Pardew…agreed!

  • 11 BelfastMagpie // Nov 14, 2012 at 11:42 AM

    Torres was always still a good player outside of the box,when he went through that really rubbish patch,in my opinion.

    You could see he was still a good player.

    Cisse is just a finisher,so if he’s not scoring goals,he’s pretty much useless..

  • 12 Lemmingsrus // Nov 14, 2012 at 11:43 AM

    Catchy says AP is a poor manager., has no idea on tactics or how to pick a team, sticks with his favourites , won’t bring youngsters through quickly enough, plays a boring game, cannot motivate the players and is too defensive.

    And now there’s this 80% from nowhere who are unhappy with him too. He has lost us 3 games and we don’t even look like a mid table team. Pardew is the ony one who cannot see that BA and Cise can’t play together so we are ot scoring enough either. A lot of people agree with Catchy this side of the North Sea. Kets thinks Pardew should be eliminated… his exact words..

  • 13 Pushy Pardew // Nov 14, 2012 at 11:47 AM

    Simpson is not comfortable going forward and treats the ball like a hot potato. Hope the comment on Debuchy is right because we can play a holding passing game then on both flanks. The style of play will pick up. Good point on Krul’s kicking which is a weakness in his game.

  • 14 Munster Mag // Nov 14, 2012 at 11:55 AM

    Lewy, you make a good point, but with the Sunday Times having us at the top of the long ball table, its more than just Williamson. Unfortunately Simmo and Tayls are not so calm on the ball either. Mind you, I’m not sure what defines a “long ball” . Either way, its not sticking up front and needs to be changed towards last years style.

  • 15 Pushy Pardew // Nov 14, 2012 at 12:00 PM

    Catchy provides a simplistic point of view not only about what the problem is but how to resolve it. It goes a little beyond just rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic. His there is one person in charge one person to change things around it’s not hard shows a complete lack of appreciation as to how the club is run. When things are not great at a football club the manager gets the blame. As fans with the quality players we have we should look for mitigation as to why were now underperforming. Not just blame the manager. Our are we just fair weather fans who want another managerial merry go round.

  • 16 alex84 // Nov 14, 2012 at 12:04 PM

    Munster, Tayls Willo and Simpson are not ball playing defenders, they are the stoppers, winning headers, When the ball is at there feet,(speaking from coaching experience)the best pass is in to the front man, then the team can play off him, willo etc wont bring the ball out and link the play up to the midfield because that is not there game, I dont think Pardew orders them to play long ball, i think they see it as relieving pressure from the defence.

  • 17 alex84 // Nov 14, 2012 at 12:05 PM

    and the quickest transition from defense to attack.

  • 18 Pushy Pardew // Nov 14, 2012 at 12:07 PM

    catchy is a dangerous poster because he is hysterical and a hanging judge. When things are not hunky dory you want the level headed approach not the headless chicken.

  • 19 lewytoon // Nov 14, 2012 at 12:08 PM

    i dont think simpson is good for our game, he wont attack at all and just hits it up the line, debuchy will be more passing which will balance it with santon.

    taylor tries to pass it more with colo, probs cuz he feels safer than when hes with williamson

  • 20 Pushy Pardew // Nov 14, 2012 at 12:11 PM

    This is not helped by Krul kicking long. What constitutes a long ball what is the criteria?

  • 21 BelfastMagpie // Nov 14, 2012 at 12:19 PM

    We would be laughing stock again,if we sacked Pardew.

    Just like old times.

    I just find it highly unlikely,that Moyes & the like’s would every work for that mob..

    You would get another manager who tows the party line & buys into there purple player transfer policy. lol

    Think there would be a few people very dissapointed with his replacement,if im honest. 😉

  • 22 Pushy Pardew // Nov 14, 2012 at 12:23 PM

    There are a number of posters who don’t think for themselves. Almost on the grass is greener on the other side. It’s time for a change.

  • 23 hotdog // Nov 14, 2012 at 12:26 PM

    I have it on good authority that the “The Special One” will be here for the start of next season!

    No not really but if its “Time to write tosh time” i may aswell join in ffs!

  • 24 Ian Toon // Nov 14, 2012 at 12:30 PM

    Munster – Hiya. I have not suggested that there aren’t caveats for MA to ditch AP. Of course there are and these will doubtless vary over the term of an 8 year contract. Why would it be made easier for AP to renege on a contract having won The Europa, PL and been asked to manage England for example. MA will have a series of hurdles to clear which could be linked to financial remuneration index linked.
    I also realise that your not suggesting sacking Pardew but even to contemplate it is just plain silly. If the nub of your case is a shake up of the side through investment and tactical changes then your four square behind Pardew. That’s what he wants. That’s what Catchy can’t appreciate. Do we really have the best fans in football?
    Those who suggest we’ve been playing long ball only since AP try watching the 6-0 trouncing of Villa under CH with the 3-0. Mauling of Manu under AP. or doesn’t it matter when were winning.

  • 25 BelfastMagpie // Nov 14, 2012 at 12:32 PM

    Aye some people seem to think if we sack Pardew,were gonna get some top manager. lol

    Put it this way,could you imagine Ashley even paying another club a big compensation package,to get a manager out of his contract??

    No chance.

    You’ll get some yes man,currently out of work,desperate for a job.

  • 26 Pushy Pardew // Nov 14, 2012 at 12:32 PM

    Well put i think.

  • 27 BelfastMagpie // Nov 14, 2012 at 12:35 PM

    Be careful what you wish for… 😉

  • 28 Pushy Pardew // Nov 14, 2012 at 12:44 PM

    As Souness said if Newcastle lose two consecutive games there is a crisis. What a shocking manager he was i must get his time with us out of my head. The older fan
    harps back to halcyon days that didn’t exist. Fans don’t have the patience to see a club bult over time with progress at all levels season on season. First dip and they want out.

  • 29 check the toastie // Nov 14, 2012 at 12:45 PM

    People keep harping on about the style in which we played last year and how we were so much more fluent and played great stuff, etc etc etc …………..this is a made up delusion, most of last years point were gained through hard work and keeping things tight, plus at times great goalkeeping,

    I can count on one hand last year when we were clearly the better team, our goal difference proves this. We gained more points last year again through moments of brilliance rather than controlling football matches.

    Outplayed at home by such giants as Wolves and Bolton, people need to be more realistic and take those rose tinted 5th place glasses off.

  • 30 ShaveyD // Nov 14, 2012 at 12:49 PM

    I didn’t catch the West Ham match but did anyone notice if that Maiga was any good??

  • 31 Quasi.modo // Nov 14, 2012 at 12:51 PM

    What is going on at the club is clearly a long term work in progress, so as far as I am concerned anyone who is even suggesting getting rid of Pardew is insane.

    Rome wasn’t built in a day so let’s get a grip. We may not reach the heady heights of last season, we may not even qualify for European football next season and we can all speculate as to who might leave if that is the case but until we give a manager a bloody chance to do the job we will never have any semblance of success at all so how about we stop b!tching and moaning, grow up, and just let AP get on with the job.

    Truly infuriating.

  • 32 Ian Toon // Nov 14, 2012 at 12:54 PM

    Pushy- are you feeling better having had your say. Not sure that the real fans like you are truly represented on here. Most can’t be bothered with the Whinging plastics.

  • 33 Pushy Pardew // Nov 14, 2012 at 12:57 PM

    Seems that a number are giving the blog a miss. Whats happened to Bollance?

  • 34 Tsunki // Nov 14, 2012 at 12:59 PM

    Poster #1 says we need a manager who can take us somewhere, someone like ….. Sparky. Take us where exactly?

    Ha ha ha ha ha ga
    ….My sides….. What’s this – open day?

  • 35 Ian Toon // Nov 14, 2012 at 12:59 PM

    I don’t know he would be a good guy to ask about Campbell. Although Beefman said last night that he’d seen him on crutches. I thought his form had dipped once he was being talked about as a starter.

  • 36 ShaveyD // Nov 14, 2012 at 1:00 PM


    We were never going to hit the heights of last season due to the lack of options we have in the team. The starting eleven more or less picks itself so in effect the pressure is off the players for their place. I just find it really amazing that the same fella who took us into europe is now getting a hard time from the fickle section of our crowd when we all know the contraints he has to works with. Expectations have gone up due to last seasons high finish, for example we would have snapped your hand off for tenth in our first season back in the top flight. Come on gents, put it into perspective, we aint too far away, I’m pretty sure that once it clicks and we can get a few bodies in in the Jan sales then we’ll be flying HWTL.

  • 37 Pushy Pardew // Nov 14, 2012 at 1:01 PM

    I am off to the gym.

  • 38 Ian Toon // Nov 14, 2012 at 1:17 PM

    Pushy- you have time on your side mate. For some of the fans on here they recall the halcyon days of our 1927 Hughie Gallacher league winning side. It’s maybe more understandable for kids who want to be winners. HTL

  • 39 boater // Nov 14, 2012 at 1:22 PM

    The reporting/podcasting on this blog is top quality stuff. I have no vested interest just think it’s worth checking out for interesting insights – should any of you get sick of the never-ending to and fro on here.

  • 40 Transfer Sage // Nov 14, 2012 at 1:24 PM

    Why do people think we couldn’t attract a big manager?

    Somebody said moyes wouldn’t be happy? why? He loses big players all the time. His team often have somebody leave. Lescott, rodwell, Cahill….all left recently.

    Our owner may not be on par with man city or Chelsea, not even spurs or Liverpool but he is no worse in spending that evertons, west brom, Fulham, etc

    Why do we think he should spend 20/30 mil a year? Most clubs don’t.

    And we only sold Carroll for big money, other players left for various reasons like contract nearly up or problems with the manager.

  • 41 hotdog // Nov 14, 2012 at 1:24 PM

    Check – I dont think any fans doubt that we over achieved last season but please look at the bigger picture. By that I mean the way the club is run from top to bottom. You must agree that the club is moving along nicely and AP is a big part of that.

  • 42 Munster Mag // Nov 14, 2012 at 1:29 PM

    “If the nub of your case is a shake up of the side through investment and tactical changes then your four square behind Pardew” ……totally agree Ian, I am behind Pards, and have said many times before, from his first impressive conference when our dumb pal Llambias legged it from the cameras. However, if we continue in this vein ( long ball, losing possession, poor results) , then I will be an awful lot cooler on him in May/June, and i dont think thats unfair. However, I think we’ll turn iot around, although probably 7th at best. And the FA Cup :)

  • 43 Munster Mag // Nov 14, 2012 at 1:31 PM

    Tsunki, I hate Hughes! I used to Love keegan, and then some tool of a journalist said we should have appointed a “proper” manager – like Mark Hughes. Yeah whatever!!

  • 44 seancavaz // Nov 14, 2012 at 1:37 PM

    Come the fa cup (as long is we ain’t drawn against top pl team) I expect we’ll see the explosion of Campbell on the scene, playing off ameobi(shola)…..I honestly think the lads close to breaking into the first team squad, albeit an impact sub, and in games this season we’ve cried out for the unknown, and this kids not only relatively unknown to some but from what we’ve seen he’s quick and when defences are tiring he can stretch them to the point that will help us turn 0 points into 1 and 1 point into 3…..

    In Pardew I trust…..

  • 45 Mister Tuff // Nov 14, 2012 at 1:40 PM

    After the furore of Sundays performance had died down a little on the blog, my take on things, for what it’s worth, is as follows:-
    A lot of fans want instant success, understandable, but it is not going to happen (in terms of mega millions to buy in players -as per Chelsea and City).(prudent purchases may occur in the Janauary window though).
    Last seasons unexpected fifth finish has probably been instrumental in fuelling the belief that we should better or match last seasons finish – thus the unrealistic prospect of challenging the so called top four.
    AP has announced publicly we need new players – it is probably not his fault that the summer deals did not materialise -therefore he can only work with players he already has.
    Getting the club on a stable financial footing is a must -as well as the general stability within the club ie staff.
    Ashley, at a whim, could instruct Dastardly, as a one off, to pay a bit extra for a specific player(s).
    This season we have not really played well , however when it is considered where we were a couple of years ago -we are in reality not doing that bad. I think it was beefman who posted a potted version of Newcastles history over the last couple of years -this really brings into perspective -what we as fans should expect – the club are building slowly and carefully.
    I find it strange that AP announced publicly that Ba still has a release clause in his contract -why did he do this -drum up interest in getting him sold?
    The club will be aware of the furore over the West Ham result – this may (equally may not) be the driver to change the side slightly -ie being more offensive for the Swansea game. (All hell will break loose if we get beat off Swansea).
    The expected big points haul in November may not happen if we do not start playing better.
    I think we will have a very active January transfer window (buying). In February the knockout stages of the EL start, with more quality teams, I suspect that AP will have to pick much stronger teams than he has done so far -ie in the group stages or we will be out. These harder games in the EL will put more pressure on team selection for the PL.
    Let’s wait until the January window before we rush to judgements – we may get a better perspective of the clubs’ intentions.

  • 46 Ian Toon // Nov 14, 2012 at 1:46 PM

    seancavaz – haven’t seen him for a while but he’s a small quick busy player that defenders hate. He’s been carefully managed but once fit as you say could be involved. Not sure that Shola would be the best partner to bring him on he could be an impact player though on a fairly regular basis maybe as an alternative to Shola.

  • 47 Ian Toon // Nov 14, 2012 at 1:57 PM

    Munster- .good that we don’t actually differ then. I didn’t want to cross you off my Xmas card list. I am not forecasting were we are going to finish. As I’ve said before progress can be realistically measured in having a number of the prospects breaking through into a stronger squad. Pardew is doing a good job compared to our recent managers in that he’s looking at the whole of the club. Souness didn’t bother with the reserves and academy because having watched them once he didn’t see anyone likely to progress. Pardew regularly watches both sides even the academy side prior to a PL home game.
    Like all managers he needs time and is only three players short of having a good side . Well that’s it.

  • 48 Ian Toon // Nov 14, 2012 at 2:02 PM

    Munster – Yeah right! So it’s purely because you think he’s a crap manager not because he’s Welsh then. I briefly felt sorry for him @ City until I thought about the size of the pay off.

  • 49 beefman13 // Nov 14, 2012 at 2:03 PM

    Another positive sweeping statement from the beefman but adam campbell is already better than shola and would be in my squad every game even though he is only 17, hes got it all in his locker, i would pay to watch this kid alone.

    Big future for him at the toon, hes quicker than our other attackers, more aware, better football brain and is a terrific finisher, with him not being as tall as the others i may add that while he is ok in the air maybe not as good as our other attackers.

    I do all the lads PR work ha ha, but seriously WHEN he comes good for us, its happy days.

  • 50 NewcastleMole // Nov 14, 2012 at 2:06 PM

    We wont go down due to the fact there’s worse teams than us.

    Ashley is happy if we finish anywhere from 1st to 17th (His original plan to emulate Aston Villa)

    The dilemma we are in currently is if we dont build on that 5th place and do better or just as well. The top players will leave in the summer.

    Cabaye, Ba, Tiote & Santon will leave this summer as Ashley give Pardew 1 more year with them before some are sold for profit.

    The whole system of 11 Purple players at the club is flawed as due to injuries & suspensions & international duty there is only a minority of games in which they will all start together.

  • 51 Ian Toon // Nov 14, 2012 at 2:09 PM

    Mister Tuff– I don’t think Pardew will be influenced by what the fans think. He has to manage the player availability and to find a way of being more offensive particularly at home. I share your view on likely prudent purchases in the window. MA likes a bargain and I can see us being more active at the senior level with a few astute purchases. That will serve to kill two birds with one stone in satisfying those seeking more of a pass and move pattern of play.

  • 52 geordie157 // Nov 14, 2012 at 2:14 PM

    Stability is the key, a few more players ie corchia or debuchy, Douglas or Kjaer and sissoko would make a big difference. As someone said earlier, Simpson gets scared when he cruises the halfway line, someone like sissoko gives us a box to box player we lack if cabaye is stuck in a holding position. Good Europa run and top 10 finish wouldn’t be a failure, just need to keep improving the squad and bringing through a few youngsters

  • 53 catchy in norway // Nov 14, 2012 at 2:15 PM

    hi all

    i see im being banded around as mt bad guy because i have an opinion

    lets get a few things straight,,

    1, i have not liked pardew from day one, he is for me a manager like sparky, clueless, give them great players and they turn into average players

    2, as most of you are aware my views have not changed , my 2 main points i go an about are

    OBERTAN because he will not take the club forward, but he gets games because he is a pardew signing,

    i have said for a long time now ( last season this season) that the football pardew plays is shit and i fail to see what players he can bring in to change this, if this could change , im sure we would have seen signs of this before now, we do have some pretty good players already in the team

    as check says above, we ground out results last year, 1-0 2-1 wins, it was more about hard work defending than hard work and going forward, i say a lot of it was luck,,

    other than beating man u 3-0 we have not looked like a team that will rip a team apart, and this season omg, we dont look like a team that can score or keep a clean sheet,

    no matter what i think about how the club got to 5th in the league last season, we got there and the bonus is EL AND YES WE ARE TOP OF THAT GROUP, but again this has been very narrow wins against poor teams, and my fear is when this feel good factor is gone from winning in europe, its all about the league,

    i wish i could be as optomistic as some of you on here about swansea this weekend and the games after that, but i carnt, i have seen nothing at all to suggest that right now we are an ok team going through a bad patch, i feel we are a poor team with DEMBA BA to score a few important goals,,

    as AP is the managerm , who else should i look to to fix this,
    he is the only one at the club who an change things,, and what is so wrong with me asking for this

    i am not the only one who was asking for jonas to be dropped, many of you guys who like pardew have been saying the same for weeks,

    regardless what i think or write, it will be pardew himself that gets himself sacked by the end of the season

  • 54 geordie157 // Nov 14, 2012 at 2:15 PM


  • 55 geordie157 // Nov 14, 2012 at 2:22 PM

    I think first we need to establish ourselves as a solid top ten side, then hopefully a regular top six side. People need to be patient, a decent run of results and we could easily be in the mix for 4th or 5th. Liverpool are drawing games, arsenal are weaker and inconsistent, so it could be a wide open race for the European spots again.

  • 56 alex84 // Nov 14, 2012 at 2:31 PM

    I bet I feel asleep before anyone else did when reading Catchy’s post. Jeez Man get a grip. Its obvious like you said you have never rated him or liked him so whatever he does he can’t win, even finishing 5th, giving us European Football and giving our youngsters a chance is not good enough, I must say everyone has a football opinion and that’s what makes the game so great…but your opinion sucks!

  • 57 hotdog // Nov 14, 2012 at 2:37 PM

    alex haha – I had three coffee’s inbetween reading his post :-)

  • 58 Mister Tuff // Nov 14, 2012 at 2:45 PM

    Ian @#49.
    Ian I probably did not make my point clear enough ref changing the side after Sundays’performance. I did say “the club will be aware of the furore” -ultimately I uppose that means Pardew. However, I’m sure at the club there is all manner of input from the coaches and the players themselves. I have no doubt that players in this era will get their point across -whether its direct to the manager or from player to coach to manager, I’m sure all scenarios have been talked about, and if all else is not working it may be worth the experiment. I am not advocating picking the team by committee or by ideas from “unqualified fans” – it’s down to AP who gets the shirt per game. Obviously we do not know the areas under discussion at the club, nor should we. Equally we have no idea what the players think about tactics, nor should we. Nor do we know whether AP is susceptible to trying something new out or whether he is so stubborn he only has one vision of how to play.
    What I’m trying to say is that the reaction to the game by supporters, the papers, pundits and perhaps the players will not go unnoticed by those in charge.

  • 59 jayphoto // Nov 14, 2012 at 2:48 PM

    Don’t agree with what catchy says 99% of the time but to be fair to him he isn’t fickle, his opinions on pardew were the same whether we win or lose! Can’t fault the guy for having an opinion, hes not delusional like kets, just seems to have high expectations of where the club should be! Think alot of posters struggle to take his opinions on board because most people will support the team no matter what! Alot of us were doing Peterborough, Cambridge and Luton away in the 80’s when we were absymal, compared to that pards plays fantasy football

  • 60 alex84 // Nov 14, 2012 at 3:00 PM

    Jayphoto, Im not saying he is being fickle its just the constant moaning about a manager who he thinks should get the sack, he is entitled to his opinion(I don’t agree with it) the club for me is in good hands, with a top scout, good manager and coaching staff, great prospects coming through the youth system, I don’t see what all the fuss is about.

  • 61 magpie6699 // Nov 14, 2012 at 3:05 PM

    Oh No! I now hear that Xisco might be injured! How will we cope?

  • 62 Transfer Sage // Nov 14, 2012 at 3:10 PM

    As far as last season goes…

    I think we did grin out results an play defensively.

    But we also played very good football in some of the games.

    You could see we were heading in the right direction and when everything clicked we produced some good stuff, both stoke games come to mind.

    The problem this season is not results, it’s just that there seems to be even more emphasis on defence.

    I think it’s partially the manager and also the players. Pardew might make then be defensive but he certainly doesn’t make then misplace simple passes.

    I back pardew and think by the en of the year we will see an inprovement.

    Mangers have to b judged season by season. We can’t make rash decisions based on a handful of games.

    Catchy- not aimed at you as you have forms your opinion over bear enough 2 years….this is just a general point.

  • 63 Rotonda heights // Nov 14, 2012 at 3:12 PM


    You sarcasm may be the lowest form of wit but I guess it is a form of wit.

    5th place was a great achievement and could even have been higher.

    However, we are third of the way through the season, have stuck with 442 all season and have yet to see us play one single convincing game. No one can really argue with that.

    It seems we were on course playing 433 which was playing to the strengths of our players. But since the last 4 games of last season and all of this season we have played hoof ball in a 442 with v poor results. You can see that can’t you?

    Nothing to do with injuries. We played a poor west ham team at home and we were totally clueless in every department.

  • 64 Transfer Sage // Nov 14, 2012 at 3:14 PM


    What makes it even more annoying is that we play 433 a lot in Europe and get results with a 2nd team with a couple first teamers.

    Why not use it for the main lads and see what they do.

  • 65 jayphoto // Nov 14, 2012 at 3:15 PM

    Yea agreed I think the team is in good hands! We have sone exciting young players coming through, don’t think wel see the best of Anita till after Xmas either! Sameobi looks better each game,as does bigirimana, think Campbell will push his way in in the later months too! Personally im not sold on Ferguson but the coaching staff seem to love him

  • 66 darrenfletcher88 // Nov 14, 2012 at 3:15 PM

    Re-post, about jonas be out, it is good news,he has been by far are worest player,simply not good enough, ask your self this, would jonas get in a top six club?? Man city,man u,Chelsea,spurs,arsenal,Everton even??

  • 67 catchy in norway // Nov 14, 2012 at 3:16 PM

    i have to ask

    is it wrong to expect us to try and play football? 2 years in the job, same crap long ball all the time,,

    forget the fact i dont like pardew and focus on what you want to see on the pitch, and if you can give me 10 games since the guy took over that we have controlled a game, i wont post again

    look at clubs like
    west brom
    west ham
    not one of them have a better squad than us, but there managers get them playing football,,

    my biggest fear for our club under pardew is if in jan BA is sold, who will score the goals

    and some of you are idiots , by saying im not a quallifide person to talk about football, because im not a manager, this is football, we all have opinions, and that is why it is so good

    laudrup, has just joined the club, and has them playing fantastic football, as did rodgers,, so who says you need to go and get jose, fergy, there are guys out there,

  • 68 bettyswallocks // Nov 14, 2012 at 3:21 PM


    I like that you stand by your philosophy on how the g

    ame should be played going forward in the modern era.
    Unfortunately Mr. Pardew is set in his thinking and not looking to modernise the style of play.

    Abramovitch and the hierarchy at Real Madrid have made it clear that winning ugly is not acceptable and that owners and fans want an exciting attacking spectacle.
    Results, loss of form. injuries to key players are not controllable and all teams must deal with these issues.

    What I and many others want to see is a philosophy of play that is positive and attack minded.

    Football is evolving and the old English route one approach to a big target man will soon be a thing of the past.

    I really hope Pardew can change his approach maybe with the help of a modern coach.

    We have heard him say numerous times that the Geordie public expect a certain brand of football ie. attacking so why can t he see thet we re not happy waching the current crap.

  • 69 catchy in norway // Nov 14, 2012 at 3:26 PM

    Transfer Sage

    dont worry, there are guys like you who stick to your points, and back the manager,,,

    then there are a few on here that come on and say they back the manager, then say if only he would play him, or play 442 443 721, is this backing the manager?? i dont see these guys as any better than me, the only diff is i have stuck with my views since he came, these guys change like the wind

    you back the manager all the way or you dont,, but they carnt slag another guy off, when there doing the same as me

    pardew out lmao

  • 70 catchy in norway // Nov 14, 2012 at 3:28 PM


    i agree,

    but the signs are there that BA will be sold and andy carroll will come in, (speculation) if this happens, he is going to stick with the long ball

  • 71 Conaldo (The Wizard) // Nov 14, 2012 at 3:29 PM

    Wizard News:
    Hatem Ben Arfa has been nominated for the FIFA Puskás award. It’s basically goal of the year. He was nominated for his goal against Blackburn rovers in the FA cup.

    You can vote for him to win here

  • 72 Rotonda heights // Nov 14, 2012 at 3:29 PM


    this is what is mystifying me. I want to see us play how we played when we beat stoke 3-0 at home. Lots of passing and moving and playing to Cabs, benny’s and Cisse’s strengths.

    We cna still keep BA happy in a 433 and start Cisse on the bench with Marveaux, sammi, Fergie or Obertan out left in a front 3. it’s not rocket science but Pardew is being so bloody stubborn, I’ve got so bored watching them this season.

  • 73 hotdog // Nov 14, 2012 at 3:29 PM

    Catchy – You do make some valid points but come on we finished 5th last year are you saying that if he won us the Premiership with his “Brand” of football that you would still want him out?
    And as for your “Footballing Teams” you might find three of them are in the relegation dog fight, namely

  • 74 Rotonda heights // Nov 14, 2012 at 3:34 PM

    It was ditching the likes of tevez and mascherano and playing hoofball to Harewood and playing Mullins that
    peed off the west ham fans and if carroll comes back I expect a lot of our ball players, the likes we’ve never seen like Benny to be on their bikes.

    All it takes is for pardew to admit he’s got it wrong and next match play


    Santon ? Saylor Fergie

    Tiote Cabs Anita

    Benny Ba Sammi / Marveaux

  • 75 catchy in norway // Nov 14, 2012 at 3:37 PM


    if we win the league i will hold my hands up and say wow, i was wrong, its ugly but it worked , well done,,

    il stick with my view we had lots of luck on last years 5th place, and no this is not a bad thing, liverpool and chelsea will finish above this year, last year they both imploded,

    and yes i do know some of the teams are in bad positions in the league, and i can only imagin what these teams would do if they had HBA cabaye cisse BA colo santon in there teams,, most would kill to have a BA or CISSE in ther teams, as there both very good at converting chances,,
    we have both in our team, but not enough chances for them

  • 76 catchy in norway // Nov 14, 2012 at 3:41 PM

    Rotonda heights

    read this and tell me this is not happening now with players at our club right now,,

    BA left wing last season ??

  • 77 Transfer Sage // Nov 14, 2012 at 4:51 PM


    My point is I think pardew will improve given time.

    It’s not a fact just what I think. It’s no more right than your view.

    If anything I am more likely to be wrong than you going off Pardews previous clubs.

    Not sure if its blind faith or patience I am showing but there something in pardew I think will turn it around.

    I do agree his style isn’t great but also last year there were probably a good 10 games we played some good football.

    The run of 6 wins near the end, stoke away early on, Chelsea away was a decent showing too.

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